Despite their efforts to focus more on unit-based meta, it is still mostly the same shit, dying to Production Orders, Bomber Mafia and Retribution, First Responders. Only new stuff is more archetype decks, which helps mid-range compete against Aggro and Ramp.
also. i can't stand bomber mafia, it's so annoying. love the tojo for that though, or the other 1 cost special that develops bombers. its too cheap imo
I managed to get to field marshal with a german/brit (which used to be a german/US) deck that is based around the Panzer II C buffing veterans units. After a bit of fine tuning it works pretty well, it has enough low cost removal to slow down jaggro and brit air. Besides veteran units (including a very useful 2/5 guard which is good at slowing jaggro and if left unchecked can wipe commandos) and removal, it has blitz doctrine, reich research and Maus, plus the HE219 which is again good against commandos and aggro. It doesn't really struggle with anything, but I'm not sure if I'd call it consistent
@@AKBplays Sure, here it is! (Actually the second time I answer this message but for some reason the first time it didn't follow through) it probably could be better since it was made with very finite resources, but do try it out and tell me what you think! Ger-Brit-Vet Major power: Germany Ally: Britain HQ: DANZIG Germany: 3x (1K) PANZER I-B 4x (1K) PANZER II-C 2x (1K) THROUGH THE BREACH 2x (2K) 50. INFANTRY REGIMENT 1x (2K) 62. INFANTRY REGIMENT 2x (2K) BLITZ DOCTRINE 1x (2K) SUDDEN STRIKE 1x (3K) BREAKTHROUGH 1x (3K) PANZER III-F 1x (3K) REICH RESEARCH 2x (3K) REICHSBANK 2x (4K) 7. SCHÜTZEN 1x (4K) HEINKEL HE 219 2x (4K) PAK 40 2x (4K) PANZER III-J LATE 1x (4K) STUKA 87G 1x (5K) ADMIRAL HIPPER 2x (7K) PANZER IV-H 1x (8K) MAELSTROM 1x (10K) LEOPOLD 1x (12K) MAUS Britain: 2x (4K) 22nd GUARDS BRIGADE 1x (4K) 70th BRIGADE 2x (4K) MATILDA Mk IV %%12|2L2T3e454zeYgVlNlPpWqfqk;1237fQjhlUlVoPqdqerf;lQ;4w
I feel like the expansion made the meta very restrictive in terms of deck building, it was like them giving you a bunch of cards that clearly fit together (Throp or Shermans) so you could only play one type of unit based deck per nation. And also, if you weren’t super stacked with wildcards, you would out of luck and pretty much had to play an old deck so the meta ended up not really being unit based at all
Agreed, it sucks. I try to play some midrange decks and get jammed by aggro or ramp greed. Or I try to play something more complex and just lose because I drew terribly. Then I just play 5 games of jaggro, win all 5 and get bored.
yeah, meta feels like it's in a bit of a weird spot. not sure what to do about it. my salvage deck is honestly kind of struggling, because if they don't run a unit based deck, i can't do much mid to late. if i want to win early, it turns into a jaggro deck, which means i should just play jaggro. operation cost could be fun, but is an expensive deck to craft. shermans are good, but again you can easily lose to a jaggro deck, or commando spam with the instant death or 2 dmg elite, and then you have the OTK decks which become repetitive, and aren't too skill based, but require certain elites... we may need a shakeup sooner than later. which is sad considering this is post the big update.
@@AKBplays Yeah a balance patch is needed, who knows if we get one though. 3 op cost is fun, but if you don't draw 13th engineers by turn 3-4 you're in big trouble usually. I also do okay with brit/italian spirit of rome/kangaroo deck or US/italy, but they both rely on just outlasting the opponent. I think the self-damage soviet deck is actually fast and strong enough to win against a lot of things, I may go try that again. Unfortunately I think shermans are simply too slow and weak overall. calliopes with the +2/2 buffing infantry and some 164th infantry support are probably most of their strength and cheap. I really want to play a german deck just for rank ups but I can't seem to make anything work consistently for them, blitz doctrine mostly too slow and I'm not sure what else to do with them.
As a casual player hovering around rank 10 its decent, still face og players coming back whooping my ass with brit air or jaggro but I feel like theres more experimentation (prob bc not everyone has all the cards at rank 15-10)
what do you think about jaggro ? have you tried it? a lot of the kards are cheap and the elites/specials commonly found in the competitive jaggro decks can easily be replaced with lesser options
@@AKBplays I despise it, jap is by far my least played nation because I just hate jaggro so much I wont even play it, but when I do I almost always win. Its pretty stupid
eh the current meta is kinda stagnating. I am seeing way too many big soviet units. The sheer volume of big soviet tanks/guards is a bit ridiculous. It is very difficult to win a war of attrition with the soviets. My favorite deck US Brit still works quite decently in getting FM, but I had to adjust a few cards here and there. I am just not really sure how to counter the soviet without mirroring them
feels like 40 kards per deck almost isn't enough to deal with the wide range of possibilities. is this a good sign of a healthy meta? or an issue of specialized decks creating a rock paper scissors situation?
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seems like the only thing that works consistently is a good ole jaggro or some commando spam. how are you guys feeling about the meta?
Despite their efforts to focus more on unit-based meta, it is still mostly the same shit, dying to Production Orders, Bomber Mafia and Retribution, First Responders. Only new stuff is more archetype decks, which helps mid-range compete against Aggro and Ramp.
@@Armor3d0ne we need some other options that are overpowered . i mean at the end of the day if everything is broken,m its balanced
also. i can't stand bomber mafia, it's so annoying. love the tojo for that though, or the other 1 cost special that develops bombers. its too cheap imo
Bad. Only hyper optimized decks have any chance of winning, and soviet elites has reached critical mass
Combined arms ita
I managed to get to field marshal with a german/brit (which used to be a german/US) deck that is based around the Panzer II C buffing veterans units.
After a bit of fine tuning it works pretty well, it has enough low cost removal to slow down jaggro and brit air.
Besides veteran units (including a very useful 2/5 guard which is good at slowing jaggro and if left unchecked can wipe commandos) and removal, it has blitz doctrine, reich research and Maus, plus the HE219 which is again good against commandos and aggro.
It doesn't really struggle with anything, but I'm not sure if I'd call it consistent
if you post the deck i'll play the deck, sounds fun
@@AKBplayssounds fun indeed
@@AKBplays Sure thing, here it is!
Germany Deck 4
Major power: Germany
Ally: Britain
HQ: DANZIG
Germany:
3x (1K) PANZER I-B
4x (1K) PANZER II-C
2x (1K) THROUGH THE BREACH
2x (2K) 50. INFANTRY REGIMENT
1x (2K) 62. INFANTRY REGIMENT
2x (2K) BLITZ DOCTRINE
1x (2K) SUDDEN STRIKE
1x (3K) BREAKTHROUGH
1x (3K) PANZER III-F
1x (3K) REICH RESEARCH
2x (3K) REICHSBANK
2x (4K) 7. SCHÜTZEN
1x (4K) HEINKEL HE 219
2x (4K) PAK 40
2x (4K) PANZER III-J LATE
1x (4K) STUKA 87G
1x (5K) ADMIRAL HIPPER
2x (7K) PANZER IV-H
1x (8K) MAELSTROM
1x (10K) LEOPOLD
1x (12K) MAUS
Britain:
2x (4K) 22nd GUARDS BRIGADE
1x (4K) 70th BRIGADE
2x (4K) MATILDA Mk IV
%%12|2L2T3e454zeYgVlNlPpWqfqk;1237fQjhlUlVoPqdqerf;lQ;4w
@@AKBplays Sure, here it is! (Actually the second time I answer this message but for some reason the first time it didn't follow through)
it probably could be better since it was made with very finite resources, but do try it out and tell me what you think!
Ger-Brit-Vet
Major power: Germany
Ally: Britain
HQ: DANZIG
Germany:
3x (1K) PANZER I-B
4x (1K) PANZER II-C
2x (1K) THROUGH THE BREACH
2x (2K) 50. INFANTRY REGIMENT
1x (2K) 62. INFANTRY REGIMENT
2x (2K) BLITZ DOCTRINE
1x (2K) SUDDEN STRIKE
1x (3K) BREAKTHROUGH
1x (3K) PANZER III-F
1x (3K) REICH RESEARCH
2x (3K) REICHSBANK
2x (4K) 7. SCHÜTZEN
1x (4K) HEINKEL HE 219
2x (4K) PAK 40
2x (4K) PANZER III-J LATE
1x (4K) STUKA 87G
1x (5K) ADMIRAL HIPPER
2x (7K) PANZER IV-H
1x (8K) MAELSTROM
1x (10K) LEOPOLD
1x (12K) MAUS
Britain:
2x (4K) 22nd GUARDS BRIGADE
1x (4K) 70th BRIGADE
2x (4K) MATILDA Mk IV
%%12|2L2T3e454zeYgVlNlPpWqfqk;1237fQjhlUlVoPqdqerf;lQ;4w
I feel like the expansion made the meta very restrictive in terms of deck building, it was like them giving you a bunch of cards that clearly fit together (Throp or Shermans) so you could only play one type of unit based deck per nation. And also, if you weren’t super stacked with wildcards, you would out of luck and pretty much had to play an old deck so the meta ended up not really being unit based at all
the meta feels like it's in a weird place.
Feeling great bro. 1st year playing and hit Field Marshall with the new expansion using the new USA operation deck
thats great to hear! im missing some of the specials for that deck. are you using france?
Agreed, it sucks. I try to play some midrange decks and get jammed by aggro or ramp greed. Or I try to play something more complex and just lose because I drew terribly. Then I just play 5 games of jaggro, win all 5 and get bored.
yeah, meta feels like it's in a bit of a weird spot. not sure what to do about it. my salvage deck is honestly kind of struggling, because if they don't run a unit based deck, i can't do much mid to late. if i want to win early, it turns into a jaggro deck, which means i should just play jaggro. operation cost could be fun, but is an expensive deck to craft. shermans are good, but again you can easily lose to a jaggro deck, or commando spam with the instant death or 2 dmg elite, and then you have the OTK decks which become repetitive, and aren't too skill based, but require certain elites... we may need a shakeup sooner than later. which is sad considering this is post the big update.
@@AKBplays Yeah a balance patch is needed, who knows if we get one though. 3 op cost is fun, but if you don't draw 13th engineers by turn 3-4 you're in big trouble usually. I also do okay with brit/italian spirit of rome/kangaroo deck or US/italy, but they both rely on just outlasting the opponent. I think the self-damage soviet deck is actually fast and strong enough to win against a lot of things, I may go try that again. Unfortunately I think shermans are simply too slow and weak overall. calliopes with the +2/2 buffing infantry and some 164th infantry support are probably most of their strength and cheap.
I really want to play a german deck just for rank ups but I can't seem to make anything work consistently for them, blitz doctrine mostly too slow and I'm not sure what else to do with them.
@@samadams2203 theyruined Reichsbank, it needed a nerf, but they stomped it into oblivion
@@AKBplays Yeah it's crazy how much germany relied on it. Should have just poofed it into an elite so only germany could use it or something XD
@@samadams2203 that's what i was thinking. maybe making it a special would've helped too.
just 2 copies, @ special maybe 4 cost
My hatred on brit air outweights jaggro and commandos
yeah brit air can be very frustrating if you can't stop it early.
different meta same story. I'm always stuck at rank 2-5😂. kinda lazy to push to field Marshal
As a casual player hovering around rank 10 its decent, still face og players coming back whooping my ass with brit air or jaggro but I feel like theres more experimentation (prob bc not everyone has all the cards at rank 15-10)
what do you think about jaggro ? have you tried it? a lot of the kards are cheap and the elites/specials commonly found in the competitive jaggro decks can easily be replaced with lesser options
@@AKBplays I despise it, jap is by far my least played nation because I just hate jaggro so much I wont even play it, but when I do I almost always win. Its pretty stupid
eh the current meta is kinda stagnating. I am seeing way too many big soviet units. The sheer volume of big soviet tanks/guards is a bit ridiculous. It is very difficult to win a war of attrition with the soviets. My favorite deck US Brit still works quite decently in getting FM, but I had to adjust a few cards here and there. I am just not really sure how to counter the soviet without mirroring them
feels like 40 kards per deck almost isn't enough to deal with the wide range of possibilities. is this a good sign of a healthy meta? or an issue of specialized decks creating a rock paper scissors situation?