You’re welcome! We were hoping it may be our next rig but it doesn’t quite check enough of the boxes for us. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it! - Mike and Shelley
Hello I'm a regular viewer of your channel and I wanted to thank you for creating such informative content. I always learn something new and valuable from your videos, especially Good luck with all your future projects!
Thank you for stopping and introducing yourself. It was great chatting with you about the family name. We would love to sit around the fire and catching up soon.
Great review! I believe Mike the Project Manager said the diesel fuel fills will be combined to be in one spot. And the bed is actually an RV king. Will be interesting to see what changes make it to production. Can you imagine towing a 15,000 pound trailer?!?! That’s a lot of towing capacity 😳
Thanks so much for all the extra info and going and talking to Mike - clarifying the cord reel knock out everyone keeps asking about and excited about another model! Im hoping for a 33 with a dinette option opposite theater seating like the renegade veracruz 32vds and the seneca/accolade 35L. Dinette on camp site would be great. Thank you both for the info. I do have 2 questions. 1. Did the tv over the kitchen sink feel like it was in your way while say doing dishes/prepping meals? It seems like if it sat back further it would be ok but seems like its in allignment with edge of the counter. 2. On a similar note do you think you could wash your face or spit out toothpaste in the bathroom sink without hitting your head on the medicine cabinet? It seems so close.
Great questions. We tested the tv while we were there. Shelley Kaye had no issues with it at 5’2” but I (Mike) found it a little tight at 6’1”. We didn’t test the bathroom sink but I know they were switching that up a little to make more room for the commode and a bigger window. I’d like to see an actual production model once they come out.
Like it more than the first Lineage. I'd prefer a queen bed with small shelf by head of bed, and more room to walk around. It's not a Super C IMO either.
Both Lineage models use the Firefly system with the main panel located on front of the overhead cabinets above the sink, accessible as you step in to the coach. So you can control the water heater from this panel (including the desired water temp) plus the switch in the bath.
@ I have an East to West Entrada 2200 s and have as much space around my bed as that one does and I do agree with about the side panel in the kitchen . For the money I like the Pasadena much better
Great review, i agree with you it's a C+ not a super C. Also did not like the king bed layout that is like the set up in our Entegra Odyssey and it's a nightmare to make. Love the power reel on the power cord. Absolutely hated the toilet position, it's not fur sitting sideways on the toilet.
Great video guys, same likes and dislikes you have. One thing seemed odd, what did you think of the tv over the sink? Do you think that will get in the way of using the sink? Just found you guys and subbed
This is built for customers looking to boon dock / back roads adventures hence Ford 600 chassis with independent front suspension and shock setup. The overhang behind rear axle might be clearance problem backroading without dove tail rear like the new Coachman Super C
Wow! You’ve had problems with 2 different GD rigs? That’s terrible! We have a Reflection and haven’t had any problems. Have you gotten another brand that you are happier with?
Thanks for taking us on the tour, that was a really nice rig.
You’re welcome! We were hoping it may be our next rig but it doesn’t quite check enough of the boxes for us. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it! - Mike and Shelley
Love the hidden curtain to close off the bedroom. We want to do a C or Super C at some point, maybe when we do our Alaska trip.
A C or a Super C would definitely be a nice way to do Alaska!
I think the truck part has to be bigger in order to be a Super C. We didnt care for the bathroom either! Great tour!
Agree. Thanks for watching.
I agree with you Mike that it's NOT a "Super C".... Still pretty nice though!! Stay safe!!
It is a nice rig!
Hello I'm a regular viewer of your channel and I wanted to thank you for creating such informative content. I always learn something new and valuable from your videos, especially Good luck with all your future projects!
Thanks for the kind words and support! We appreciate you.
It was great meeting you at the show, look forward to a campfire chat with a good scotch for me and a bourbon for you.
Thank you for stopping and introducing yourself. It was great chatting with you about the family name. We would love to sit around the fire and catching up soon.
Great review! I believe Mike the Project Manager said the diesel fuel fills will be combined to be in one spot. And the bed is actually an RV king. Will be interesting to see what changes make it to production. Can you imagine towing a 15,000 pound trailer?!?! That’s a lot of towing capacity 😳
The changes will be interesting to see for sure. Stopping that 15k with that big girl is what concerns me.
@ That’s a great point. Going is one thing - slowing is another 😬👍🏻
With the size of the engine and the amount of weight it can pull, it’s a super c. Despite all the complainers.
Everyone seems to have a different opinion. I even googled it and still can’t get a straight answer.
Nice Job and nice rig!
Thanks! It’s nice- but I think there are some things to improve. But this was there first shot at it so I am sure there will be some tweaks.
Thanks so much for all the extra info and going and talking to Mike - clarifying the cord reel knock out everyone keeps asking about and excited about another model! Im hoping for a 33 with a dinette option opposite theater seating like the renegade veracruz 32vds and the seneca/accolade 35L. Dinette on camp site would be great. Thank you both for the info. I do have 2 questions.
1. Did the tv over the kitchen sink feel like it was in your way while say doing dishes/prepping meals? It seems like if it sat back further it would be ok but seems like its in allignment with edge of the counter.
2. On a similar note do you think you could wash your face or spit out toothpaste in the bathroom sink without hitting your head on the medicine cabinet? It seems so close.
Great questions. We tested the tv while we were there. Shelley Kaye had no issues with it at 5’2” but I (Mike) found it a little tight at 6’1”.
We didn’t test the bathroom sink but I know they were switching that up a little to make more room for the commode and a bigger window. I’d like to see an actual production model once they come out.
I like the F600 chassis but its not a super C, nice review 👍
We agree on that one.
They talked about making a door there between bedroom and living area for production
A door would be nice!
Like it more than the first Lineage. I'd prefer a queen bed with small shelf by head of bed, and more room to walk around.
It's not a Super C IMO either.
I agree it is a nicer rig than the 1st class C. We agree a queen would be a better option.
I agree, not a super c, yes a c+.
Great minds think alike!!
Great video. Why does Grand Design always put the control for the water heater in the bath room….when you use more hot water in the kitchen?
That’s a great question.
Both Lineage models use the Firefly system with the main panel located on front of the overhead cabinets above the sink, accessible as you step in to the coach. So you can control the water heater from this panel (including the desired water temp) plus the switch in the bath.
Thanks for the review.
Is it Lin-E-Age or Line-Age?
You’re welcome! It is Lin-e-age!
I do like it a lot but can’t get past the feeling of it feeling like a C+
I AGREE! (Mike). Shelley Kaye is not convinced.
@ I have an East to West Entrada 2200 s and have as much space around my bed as that one does and I do agree with about the side panel in the kitchen . For the money I like the Pasadena much better
I saw it at the show also and I also agree it's a C+, not a Super C.
It’s there first crack at it so we will see what they do with it next. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! - Mike and Shelley
Looks nice .What was the cargo carrying capacity ?
They don’t have any paperwork out on it but this is what I could find on Grand Designs website.
GARW Front 7500
GAWR Rear 15500
GVWR 22000
Thank you
According the Matt's Review debut, the OCCC of this coach is 3814 pounds (ua-cam.com/video/LEnGZAZIDMY/v-deo.html)
Great review, i agree with you it's a C+ not a super C. Also did not like the king bed layout that is like the set up in our Entegra Odyssey and it's a nightmare to make. Love the power reel on the power cord. Absolutely hated the toilet position, it's not fur sitting sideways on the toilet.
Great minds think alike. Thanks for watching.
Full time closet space for Shelley K and nothing for Mike
Exactly!!! lol 🤣
Great video guys, same likes and dislikes you have. One thing seemed odd, what did you think of the tv over the sink? Do you think that will get in the way of using the sink? Just found you guys and subbed
Good thought!! Shelley Kaye says she doesn’t think it would be a problem for her but it might me because of my height. Thanks for the sub!!!
Yup same question
I like the bed to be more walk around. As i get older crawling in not fun.
Agree. Shelley Kaye says a queen would be a great option so you can get around the bed.
Any prices
The MSRP is listed at $289,999. The show price is listed at $229,995
@ thank you for the info appreciate it
This is built for customers looking to boon dock / back roads adventures hence Ford 600 chassis with independent front suspension and shock setup. The overhang behind rear axle might be clearance problem backroading without dove tail rear like the new Coachman Super C
Can you still do wordle from the "throne"?
Im pretty sure I could make that happen!! lol.
Decisions, decisions.
We know. It’s so hard to decide on one. We think that perfect RV is out there looking for us. We just haven’t met yet.
There is no air brakes, plus it’s a class 6 truck with a 22,000 GVWR. I don’t think it’s a super C. Should be a class 7, or 8 to qualify.
Yep. It’s a nice rig but not a super C
It’s a C and Grand Design has had build quality problems ! Been there done that twice never again ! Buyer beware !
Wow! You’ve had problems with 2 different GD rigs? That’s terrible! We have a Reflection and haven’t had any problems. Have you gotten another brand that you are happier with?