@@jeffpagan7735 I don't know that she had reason to be pissed-off, being in the Italian film industry and knowing some of the other actresses were better known than she. She was married to Dino DeLaurentiis, the producer every bit as well known as Carlo Ponti (Sophia Loren's husband), until her death in 1989. She was the grandmother of Giada DeLaurentiis, the chef.
That's one of these things I hate the most in the show, more than often, the most interesting occupations come after the mystery guest, and they run out of time. Whoever was in charge of the "placement" could see that this was a jolly old fellow who would have made the show more interesting. The flight attendant should have come after since the odds to be recognized were higher.
+Sdk ElMaruecan The flight attendant worked for one of the sponsors of WML. And her connection to the panelists was recent. Therefore they didn't want to take the chance that her segment would be dropped if the first three segments ran long enough to cut out the forth segment. And as entertaining as the final challenger was, he didn't top the entertainment value of the first challenger. That segment was one of the very best that I have seen on WML (whatever Gary has posted from the first episode in 1950 through this one).
@@sdkelmaruecan2907 I absolutely agree! As a former Y.M.C.A. Employee for fourteen years I was completely thrilled to this gentleman at his age still working and thrilled with his time at the Y.
you probably dont give a damn but does anyone know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot the password. I would love any tricks you can give me!
Mrs. Alice Roeser (as she had signed in) was sure having a great time as the panel went down the rabbit trail of trying to figure out what the "men" who came to her wore. Every wrong guess was funnier and funnier to her until it was almost impossible for her to answer.
The second challenger lived in the Jackson Heights neighborhood of the borough of Queens. That's one of the two neighborhoods which border LaGuardia Airport (the other neighborhood being East Elmhurst). She moved from Pittsburgh (not the south as Dorothy remembered) to a location very convenient to domestic flights out of LGA on American Airlines.
I had to look up Mangano, and realised she was the female star of 'Anna' (1951) where she, as a blonde, delightfully suggestively performs in a nightclub singing 'El Negro Zambon' (actually, Flo Sandon did the singing; Mangano lip-synched). In the wonderful film, Caro Diario (1993), Nanni Moretti goes into a cafe and Mangano is on a television screen performing this number and he dances to it. Oh, the connections in one's life! The original film, the homage to her in his film, and now WML....what a pleasure for me. Robert, uk.
Her pairing with Pasolini as unlikely as it was turned out to be the best thing that happened to Silvana Mangano. Before that she used to be your stereotypical neorealistic Italian actress (working girl vibes etc), but after that she transported herself into the world of eternally poetic mythical heroines. Watching this episode who knew that her best career years were 15 years down the road
The further along I am in watching the WML episodes in sequence, the more amazed I become when I have never heard of the MG. I was approaching my fourth birthday when this episode aired and was quite precocious. it wasn't long after this that I could read and add a column of two-digit numbers. I knew the names of many baseball players by this time, a few other sports celebrities, and some show business people, mostly comedians and the hosts of children's programs. More importantly, within a few years, I would know about most celebrities and political figures. Yet somehow, Miss Mangano's name was completely unknown to me until I watched this episode. And she had quite a lengthy career and was married to a famous celebrity in the movie business. Perhaps most important is the fact that while I enjoy science fiction, I never watched "Dune" or read any of the books in the Dune series of novels.
As usual Robert Q Lewis makes a pass at one of the attractive female challengers (in this case, sight unseen, although it has been established by John Daly that she is attractive). (20:40)
The lifeguard, Oskar Laredo, was born in Wurzburg Germany in 1878. He was Jewish. He and his wife, Else, had three sons, born in 1909 1911 and 1921. The oldest son emigrated to NY and was able to get his parents out of Germany in May 1937. They arrived by ship on the day of the Hindenburg crash. They applied for citizenship in July. Their middle and youngest sons were living in France by 1937. No word on if they survived. Else died in 1948. Oskar in 1966.
Obviously, Arlene Francis had Gina Lollobrigida in mind when she asked, "Have you been swung around lately by Burt Lancaster?". Gina co-starred with Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis in the circus drama "Trapeze" in 1956.
“Ultimamente è stata fatta volteggiare da Burt Lancaster?”, probabilmente pensava a Gina Lollobrigida che aveva fatto un film con Lancaster e Tony Curtis nel 1956 dal titolo “Trapezio” ambientato in un circo.
Others have commented that Silvana looked annoyed, but I think it was just the severe shape of her eyebrows that gave her what looked like an angry expression.
link to Alice Roeser's good-bye party at the zoo before she moved to california- a 60 second video and a few sheets of a typed letter. Very sweet. texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1225602/m1/#permanent-url
I was getting frustrated watching/listening to the panelists trying to figure out what the first guest did for a living, which was being a nurse to a baby gorilla. They continually stayed on this tangent about clothing, about uniforms of every conceivable aspect, etc., such that this singular focus "blinded" their respective efforts to move on, to broaden their perspectives, via asking different questions that might have given them the answer.
Silvana had wonderful late teenage years after a tough WWII with an English mom in Italy, but at this point at age 26 she was married to a frog, had several kids, and after "Bitter Rice" had 100% of Italian men swooning over her and 50% of Italian women tut-tutting. The powerful "Anna" movie (her best) was intended to make her more saintlike - as a highly competent nursing sister BTW not a nun. Still, she's sorta acting here to confuse the audience as WML participants often did. :-)
70 лет назад такие раскрепощенные разговоры были допустимы, теперь ведь все обдумывают каждое слово прежде чем что то сказать, чтобы не потерять работу в публичном пространстве.
Of course, when Silvana Mangano "signed in" on the chalkboard, she spelled her name correctly as "Silvana", but when they flashed her name on the screen, WML unfortunately misspelled it as "Sylvana". I note that Italian names and words do not typically include the letters J, K, X or Y.
Dorothy Kilgallen must have thought the mystery guest could be the newly Princess Grace (Kelly) of Monaco because the MG spoke in french. That's the best explanation of why she asked if the MG was "royal" and if she could adress her directly. At least, it fits the timeline. Otherwise, it seemed strange...
I was watching Irene Dunne last night when Hal Black asked if the MG was "younger than" and Arlene chimed in "springtime"? Was this a regular gag with her?
Supposedly Lucy Ricardo's grape-stomping scene on "I Love Lucy" was a spoof of Silvana Mangano in "Bitter Rice". If Lucy had been more faithful to the original, would she have made saké instead of wine?
That nurse for the baby gorilla was the funniest one yet. They just could NOT get off of this costume bit lol And why in the WORLD did Robert think he couldn't say the word "diaper?" was "diaper" a bad word back in the 50's or something lol
They were asking about the costume because they thought the contestant dealt with humans. This is the kind of happy accident, resulting in laughter, that was the life-blood of the show. That is one reason why I don't think the panelists were tipped off about the contestants. As far as diapers are concerned, they could be mentioned, but it was tricky to mention what they were for. For example, n another episode, one contestant ran a diaper service. Bennett Cerf asked whether "wee ones" could make use of the service. Then the whole theater dissolved into raucous laughter.
![What's My Line? - Sal Maglie; Ann Miller; Phil Rizutto [panel] (Oct 7, 1956)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xuy0CbPp7vw/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - James C. Hagerty; Charles Boyer; James Michener [panel] (Mar 10, 1957)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6RfBtTp48No/mqdefault.jpg)
Silvana Mangano was indeed a delightful lady and one of the very best Italian actresses
Amen.🧸
Miss Mangano was a beautiful, talented, rather enigmatic actress.
She was outstanding in her performance in “ Bitter Rice” and later “ Death In Venice”.
@@alexforest1 Death in Venice is a masterpiece.
In "Anna" she really blazes - plays 2 radically opposite persona, a real jolt when we are first made to experience this.
A trifle limited in the intelligence department.
@@peternagy-im4be
More Talented, Well Spoken, and Intellegent than a Good Many People these days..
Sylvana and many other Italian women have such an unusual serious beauty about them. It's a nice change from the vacant-looking beauties.
Silvana Mangano
She looked seriously pissed off
@@jeffpagan7735 I don't know that she had reason to be pissed-off, being in the Italian film industry and knowing some of the other actresses were better known than she. She was married to Dino DeLaurentiis, the producer every bit as well known as Carlo Ponti (Sophia Loren's husband), until her death in 1989. She was the grandmother of Giada DeLaurentiis, the chef.
@@jeffpagan7735 she looked more embarrassed than pissed off.
@@naardri צריך מת
The lifeguard was having a good time. He was fun.
Arlene, always looked classy and elegant.
And gorgeous 😅
The baby gorilla lady had me holding my sides from laughter.I was on the treadmill at the time and almost fell off.😄
You’re right this was one of the funniest q and a’s in the 17 years!
Im amazed they didn't ask if it was human or animal lol.
What a coincidence me too on treadmill😅
Silvana was married to film maker Dino De Laurentiis. Their grandchild is TV chef Giada de Laurentiis.
+gcjerryusc
You thought that Giada De Laurentis was a he???!!! Jerry, you've got some 'splainin' to do!
Thank you, I did not know that.
Too bad they ran out of time with the lifeguard. He had such a vibrant personality. It would have been nice to see more of him.
That's one of these things I hate the most in the show, more than often, the most interesting occupations come after the mystery guest, and they run out of time. Whoever was in charge of the "placement" could see that this was a jolly old fellow who would have made the show more interesting. The flight attendant should have come after since the odds to be recognized were higher.
He should have been the 1st contestant.
+Sdk ElMaruecan
The flight attendant worked for one of the sponsors of WML. And her connection to the panelists was recent. Therefore they didn't want to take the chance that her segment would be dropped if the first three segments ran long enough to cut out the forth segment.
And as entertaining as the final challenger was, he didn't top the entertainment value of the first challenger. That segment was one of the very best that I have seen on WML (whatever Gary has posted from the first episode in 1950 through this one).
@@sdkelmaruecan2907 I absolutely agree! As a former Y.M.C.A. Employee for fourteen years I was completely thrilled to this gentleman at his age still working and thrilled with his time at the Y.
you probably dont give a damn but does anyone know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly forgot the password. I would love any tricks you can give me!
Silvana Mangano was excellent in Ulysses with Kirk Douglas and Anthony Quinn
I was two years old when this program aired.
Who cares?
I was four days old when this was filmed, I remember it well. ;)
Hmmm. I wonder what Freud would say about that!
Mrs. Alice Roeser (as she had signed in) was sure having a great time as the panel went down the rabbit trail of trying to figure out what the "men" who came to her wore. Every wrong guess was funnier and funnier to her until it was almost impossible for her to answer.
The second challenger lived in the Jackson Heights neighborhood of the borough of Queens. That's one of the two neighborhoods which border LaGuardia Airport (the other neighborhood being East Elmhurst). She moved from Pittsburgh (not the south as Dorothy remembered) to a location very convenient to domestic flights out of LGA on American Airlines.
I had to look up Mangano, and realised she was the female star of 'Anna' (1951) where she, as a blonde, delightfully suggestively performs in a nightclub singing 'El Negro Zambon' (actually, Flo Sandon did the singing; Mangano lip-synched). In the wonderful film, Caro Diario (1993), Nanni Moretti goes into a cafe and Mangano is on a television screen performing this number and he dances to it.
Oh, the connections in one's life! The original film, the homage to her in his film, and now WML....what a pleasure for me. Robert, uk.
The lifeguard was adorable!
Her pairing with Pasolini as unlikely as it was turned out to be the best thing that happened to Silvana Mangano. Before that she used to be your stereotypical neorealistic Italian actress (working girl vibes etc), but after that she transported herself into the world of eternally poetic mythical heroines. Watching this episode who knew that her best career years were 15 years down the road
Pasolini and Visconti over a number of films. Magnificent and unforgettable actress who made films in an era when film mattered as an art form.
@14:19 Another great deduction by Dorothy!
Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years 😅
The further along I am in watching the WML episodes in sequence, the more amazed I become when I have never heard of the MG. I was approaching my fourth birthday when this episode aired and was quite precocious. it wasn't long after this that I could read and add a column of two-digit numbers. I knew the names of many baseball players by this time, a few other sports celebrities, and some show business people, mostly comedians and the hosts of children's programs. More importantly, within a few years, I would know about most celebrities and political figures.
Yet somehow, Miss Mangano's name was completely unknown to me until I watched this episode. And she had quite a lengthy career and was married to a famous celebrity in the movie business. Perhaps most important is the fact that while I enjoy science fiction, I never watched "Dune" or read any of the books in the Dune series of novels.
god you're annoying. Your posts are always so pretentious and affected. blech.
Silvana......wow!
As usual Robert Q Lewis makes a pass at one of the attractive female challengers (in this case, sight unseen, although it has been established by John Daly that she is attractive). (20:40)
He was a huge hit by the ladies
I believe he was a 1950s-era closet case, and this was his way of keeping others from knowing about that closet.
She had wonderful eyebrows
its amazing how nicely dressed all the contestants are, today they would all be in t-shirts and torn jeans.
True.... although people had money in the 50's too.
@@SomethingSomethingg you don't have to spend a lot to look nice, for what a designer pair of jeans cost you can buy some nice dress pants.
Arlene dress is beautiful. I will always remember the outstanding performance of our mystery guest in “ Death In Venice “ as the mother.
They would be more casual, but people don't dress that sloppily on game shows these days. Heck, people wwar their Sunday's Best on Family Feud!
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OMG this is so cool.
Giada de laurentis This is her grandmother. She always said ciao nonna when she passed her picture on the food show in Italy.
silvana mangano as italian actress as dune and other movies ma as dead 1989 ciao
Wow- What a sign of the times! Robert Q Lewis was hesitant to say the word "diaper".
I wondered why didn't think he could say that too. What, in the 50's "diaper" was a bad word or something lol
Today, there would be no hesitation saying the word "dildo" on TV.
Now I know the secret of eternal youth and happiness--become a lifeguard.
21:30 That lifeguard was born 13 years after Abraham Lincoln met Boothe.
Wow ! Now what?
Could have been born in 1877, genius
Clare? :D
Exelente en todos los sentidos.
I agree 👍
Удивительная женщина неподражаемая,ни на кого не похожая Сильвана Мангано
The lifeguard, Oskar Laredo, was born in Wurzburg Germany in 1878. He was Jewish. He and his wife, Else, had three sons, born in 1909 1911 and 1921. The oldest son emigrated to NY and was able to get his parents out of Germany in May 1937. They arrived by ship on the day of the Hindenburg crash. They applied for citizenship in July. Their middle and youngest sons were living in France by 1937. No word on if they survived. Else died in 1948. Oskar in 1966.
the younger sons arrived in 1938.
I appreciate your time in informing us of this man's history!
@@jimkalafus8219thank goodness!
such a pleasant nurse with baby gorillas❤❤❤❤
Silvana Enchilada
Yassss silvana
I'm Italian as Silvana Mangano was. Can someone explain me what does mean "did you swing around by Burt Lancaster?
Obviously, Arlene Francis had Gina Lollobrigida in mind when she asked, "Have you been swung around lately by Burt Lancaster?". Gina co-starred with Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis in the circus drama "Trapeze" in 1956.
“Ultimamente è stata fatta volteggiare da Burt Lancaster?”, probabilmente pensava a Gina Lollobrigida che aveva fatto un film con Lancaster e Tony Curtis nel 1956 dal titolo “Trapezio” ambientato in un circo.
To come by and visit😅
anniversary of Sylvana's death 18th Dec A beautiful lady
Silvana Mangano
You spelled her name wrong its Silvana Mangano
with a i
Of course few Italian words used a "y,"
Others have commented that Silvana looked annoyed, but I think it was just the severe shape of her eyebrows that gave her what looked like an angry expression.
You are correct.
@@Gwaithmir you are not correct
@@peternagy-im4beShe was very solemn and reserved:)
link to Alice Roeser's good-bye party at the zoo before she moved to california- a 60 second video and a few sheets of a typed letter. Very sweet.
texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1225602/m1/#permanent-url
I was getting frustrated watching/listening to the panelists trying to figure out what the first guest did for a living, which was being a nurse to a baby gorilla. They continually stayed on this tangent about clothing, about uniforms of every conceivable aspect, etc., such that this singular focus "blinded" their respective efforts to move on, to broaden their perspectives, via asking different questions that might have given them the answer.
You can always send them an email.😅
Silvana had wonderful late teenage years after a tough WWII with an English mom in Italy, but at this point at age 26 she was married to a frog, had several kids, and after "Bitter Rice" had 100% of Italian men swooning over her and 50% of Italian women tut-tutting. The powerful "Anna" movie (her best) was intended to make her more saintlike - as a highly competent nursing sister BTW not a nun. Still, she's sorta acting here to confuse the audience as WML participants often did. :-)
A frog 🐸?
Как же жаль, что я ни хрена не понимаю, я русская, но обожаю Сильвану💃💃💃🌹🌺🌹
Она снялась в фильме Н.Михалкова Утомленные солнцем.
Спасибо, вот этого я не знала.
You can translate with Google Russia to English😅
Just found out that Silvana Mangano is Giada De Laurentis's grandmother.
70 лет назад такие раскрепощенные разговоры были допустимы, теперь ведь все обдумывают каждое слово прежде чем что то сказать, чтобы не потерять работу в публичном пространстве.
Her name is *SILVANA* Mangano not Sylvana. 16:05
Corrected-- thanks!
Johan Bengtsson *LA MANGANO* !!!! PERFECT!
Of course, when Silvana Mangano "signed in" on the chalkboard, she spelled her name correctly as "Silvana", but when they flashed her name on the screen, WML unfortunately misspelled it as "Sylvana". I note that Italian names and words do not typically include the letters J, K, X or Y.
Bouy you wanna be quite empha tic that her first name is spelled "Silvana" and not "Sylvana"! But she was something of an actress was she?
Johan Bengtsson m
Various Measurements. That would have be be Sophia Loren!
I usuallyvlike Bennett, but the measurement question was just a bit out of line. Actually it was rather icky
Nose bleed at 10:41?
Dorothy Kilgallen must have thought the mystery guest could be the newly Princess Grace (Kelly) of Monaco because the MG spoke in french. That's the best explanation of why she asked if the MG was "royal" and if she could adress her directly.
At least, it fits the timeline.
Otherwise, it seemed strange...
Exactly :)
They mispronounce her name a bit. Her last name was pronounced , MON-guh-no, not Mon-GON-oh. They also misspell her first name onscreen, LOL.
Bunsy. I think that was the child once photographed for a magazine wearing a riding habit. It is also very NE upper class.
That's the kind of name of someone whose boyfriend's name is Chad or Todd and best friend's name is Muffy. (Yes, I was a big fan of "Trading Places".)
The first contestant looked a little like Mamie Eisenhower to me.
Mamies' doppelganger
She looked a little like Mamie!!
Even back then, they hated politicians.
16:19 Severe hairstyle from front view, but when seen from behind, it's quite nice.
True
I love Mr. Laredo.
John Daly’s eyebags!
Yes ,I'm sure he was worn out after the convention😅
Silvana Mangano was about as well known as Rula Lenska
Once again: Why is Robert Q. Lewis' name never listed as a panelist on the top line?
Ken. A quiet word of advice. Give it up. Okay?
5:36 - What a "Hot" question (for a heated debate).
"The Most Delightful Lady.. ."
And the Oscar for Sarcasm goes to... .. .
Giada DeLaurentiis' grandma
24:55 Is that you Bertha?
I was watching Irene Dunne last night when Hal Black asked if the MG was "younger than" and Arlene chimed in "springtime"?
Was this a regular gag with her?
No, it was a statement that was used for reference purposes 😅
Silvana Mangano is the grandmother of Food Network's Giada de Laurentis
They don't come any more attractive than Sylvana Mangano
"Pretty and efficient."
Why she didn't speak english? Her mother was from London.... I don't think her mother did not teach her english?
But living in Italy, English was probably rarely used.
Fooling the audience.
@@peterquennellnycExactly 😅
Supposedly Lucy Ricardo's grape-stomping scene on "I Love Lucy" was a spoof of Silvana Mangano in "Bitter Rice". If Lucy had been more faithful to the original, would she have made saké instead of wine?
Huh? Silvana barely got her feet wet - it deliberately separated her from the hundreds of women workers who did.
@@peterquennellnyc The movie Lucy is involved with in the episode is called "Bitter Grapes."
Her mother was English and yet she seems to struggle with the language.
I don't think she could hear them
Fooling the audience.
@@peterquennellnyc she couldn't speak English.
@@peternagy-im4be She played in english in many films in the 60s and 70s.....
@ellemathews9840 The theater was built over a very busy, and noisy train station!😅
16:12 Severe hairstyle and eyebrows!
Italian Renaissance Art 19th Century rewind.
That nurse for the baby gorilla was the funniest one yet. They just could NOT get off of this costume bit lol
And why in the WORLD did Robert think he couldn't say the word "diaper?" was "diaper" a bad word back in the 50's or something lol
They were asking about the costume because they thought the contestant dealt with humans. This is the kind of happy accident, resulting in laughter, that was the life-blood of the show. That is one reason why I don't think the panelists were tipped off about the contestants. As far as diapers are concerned, they could be mentioned, but it was tricky to mention what they were for. For example, n another episode, one contestant ran a diaper service. Bennett Cerf asked whether "wee ones" could make use of the service. Then the whole theater dissolved into raucous laughter.
@@jackkomisar458 - "wee ones."
It was to be indiscreet 😅
@@jackkomisar458Another way to say babies😅
In Aug. 1956 my mother was still pregnant 🤰 with me till October 1956. Lol 😂 ya 64 year's ago!
Ms Mangano looks so stern. She could’ve posed for American Gothic.
Her eye brows are very Joan Crawford-esque here ! Gives a serious stern affect .
She was a very serious woman😮
The original “Q”! Sorry Brian
What "kind" of an animal still doe'snt wear "Evening" clothes?
Have a Giraffe with an airline hostess
Some people still can't swim , even with? a Gorilla& a Giraffe.
Buying baby gorillas in Holland... Sounds a bit shifty..
LOL
$5,000 she said. Very expensive.
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I’m surprised. I know some baby apes wear diapers. They should’ve given her a yes on that.
Not clothing😅
@@robertjean5782 ? I think so.
Silvana Mangano ..Never heard of her..And I'm 74
Shame on you ! Do you live on mars or in Albuqurque.. ?!
One of the most sexy european actress after the war. You are a ignorant.
Liar ! Pants on fire
And your point is....?
Who's Jack Val?
I don’t think she really wants to be there.
She's very reserved:)
"Great Sovereign State of South Africa"?????? Under apartheid??
Correct
Arlene Francis -- why bring a purse with you to a panel show? I mean, why??????
70 years ago the average woman carried a purse for makeup, cigarettes, perfume,feminine items, money, keys, etc😅
Sometimes purse were used to signal things to others
I hate how the interesting ones are on last and don't get enough time.
Markxxx ~ I TOTALLY AGREE!!!
Drives me crazy, too!
It just seems that way, I've watched 240 shows so far and I can tell you it's just the opposite 😅
NURSE FOR BABY GORILLA
AMERICAN AIRLINE STEWARDESS
LIFEGUARD AT Y.M.C.A.
Please remove this complete and utter troll from the comments section. Clown 🤡.