Prius Brakes FAIL (Hidden COST of Hybrids)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Uh oh...this clean 2010 Toyota Prius with 230k miles has a weird ABS system FAILURE.
No codes set, but the booster assist pump keeps cycling every 15-30 seconds.
Sounds like there is an internal LEAK inside the fancy "ABS Brake Booster Stroke Simulator Module" assembly.
To repair this issue costs an arm and a leg...
Oh, and you NEED an OEM-level scanner to perform the ultra-complicated brake bleeding procedure.
Do Hybrids really save you money in the long run??
THINKTOOL PROS:
www.amazon.com...
ON SALE NOW................GET ONE!
Enjoy!
Ivan
Putting used parts in such a complicated safety system seems to be a huge liability! Thanks for taking us along job well done Ivan!
That's why the owner is notified. No warranty. No liability.
Used parts won't work
If you don't have the MONEY ( FOR NEW PARTS ) & ONLY YOU DRIVE THE VEHICLE, I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. At least the person is getting it fixed, a lot don't.
When my wife was alive I put ALL NEW NAME BRAND PARTS ON HER JEEP. BECAUSE MY WIFE'S SAFETY IS INVOLVED. My car I went to a PICK-N-PULL to get my parts unless it was something CHEAP & sometimes you got lucky & found very new parts for my car. If not I bought New or Reman. & I enjoyed going through all the vehicles at the PICK-N-PULL. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU WILL FIND, IT'S ALMOST LIKE HUNTING, LOL.
Maybe the owner is planning to sell real soon…. fix and flip
You are aware every single part on that car is used.
I purchased a 2021 Mitsubishi Mirage 6 months ago, I am getting 40mpg with suburban driving, 50-52 on highway. 3 cylinder 1.2L with a cvt transmission... It's simplicity is a breath of fresh air
That's impressive!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I was wondering if you you have any contact information and if so can you please share it, thank you 😊
Can you even get up to 80mph in that?
Prius boost assist pump replacement time: 1.5 hours.
Prius brake bleed procedure time 3.5 hours.
So without the aid of the scan tool, this repair would be a no go. Got to love the complicated ones.
That’s where your gas / fuel savings go -back into the maintenance of the car, as you need to take to a knowledgeable automotive technician with the right tools and experience to service such sophisticated cars. No visits to the nearest a jiffy Lube anymore!
@@paulsz6194 Yes, 1500-2000 worth of repairs at the dealer.
Stealership gonna steal. Really any car is going to reach a point where the cost of upkeep is not worth it. Most people would have traded it in by this point. I think the real lesson here is don't buy used unless you have deep pockets.
@@paulsz6194 The maintenance of the car is where the real savings come in. Failures like this are rare, while ugly things like Nissan CVT explosions are just a matter of time and miles.
In the past 19 years I have had a 2002 Prius, a 2010 Prius, and a 2014 Prius, all bought used. In all those years my total maintenance time (besides the usual PM stuff) has been negligible. In contrast, all our other cars required repairs several times a year. In a total of about 300K miles among those cars I never once had to do anything to the brakes. The 2002 needed a hybrid battery rebuild at 208K miles and 18 years; $2000 and some basic wrenching set it up for the rest of its life. The 2010 apparently became magnetized, being hit by a sideswiper, a deer running full tilt into the driver's door, and a young woman who thought her doctor was being too uptight about her driving without her seizures under control... all within six months. The 2014 has been wonderful to us. I will never buy a conventional car, with all its troubles, again. 30 years of misery was enough for me.
@@flagmichael ok, wasn’t aware they are more reliable than what you hear . I’ve only heard of the bad ones on other Automotive repair channels like Diagnose Dan & Advanced level .
From my days in military and civilian aircraft maintenance I always thought that engineers should be forced to pull wrenches for at least three years before the let them near a design department.
Getting way too complicated. Hope for the future
The "M" in DFM is "manufacturing", not "maintenance". Engineers aren't paid to give two shits what a mechanic thinks because there's no money in making something easier to work on.
Frustrating but that's reality.
@@Guysm1l3y I understand that and s mechanics usually don’t give two shits when anything goes wrong and it feeds back to engineering…and believe me, some mechanics make it a point to exacerbate problems they see.
@Jacks Journale VERY ACCURATE & GOOD RANT, A +.
@MrMagOOo they’re not entirely told how to do it.
Love your videos and appreciate the work you put into them. In this case I disagree that this has anything to do with the vehicle being a hybrid, as others have stated, there are multiple vehicles in the Toyota lineup that used this same system and are not hybrids. Additionally that vehicle has saved the owner(s) north of $10k in fuel over the life, so if it needed something like a $2k battery pack, then the argument about hybrid repair costs would make sense, but also a fair comparison to savings should be made.
Not even close to 10k in savings. A prius at 50 mpg at 230,000 over a similar not hybrid at 34 mpg is saving 2164 gallons of gas. So that is about $4,500 depending on where you live. When you factor in the higher cost to register a hybrid and the inflated initial purchase cost, you aren't saving any money at all. For example a base Prius in 2009 cost 22k when a base Corolla cost 15k. A $7,000 premium.
@@nick21614 gas is $5.00 a gallon for 87 where I live, It definitely saves you money over the long run
@@evanspiteri3576 If the average cost of gas over the last 10 years to have saved that money then you don't live in the USA.
@@nick21614 You're right, I don't, I live in California
Driving a hybrid places where you can use the regenerative braking is great. The hybrid gearbox is bulletprof and basically works the same way as a differential.
This was pretty wild, mainly due to the bleed procedure. Seems easy to follow, but dang, that seems like a lot of fluid needed, and even for such a small car. Another awesome video, Ivan!
That brake bleed was intense! Great work and patience 👍.
You are a real sticking man bro..you never let go anything you start working on untill its fixed or it cries out..ivan for God sakes send me to junk yard..your advise to customer about his parts is real good deed.cheers
Great job Ivan,I am surprise the brake fluid is standard and not some secret formula.....
With the cowl / wipers removed it would have great time to replace the spark plugs too. The coils do not have enough clearance to be removed with the cowl in place.
You can use a wobbly and or elbow to remove that one spark and coil without having to remove cowl
It sucks but, I got it down to a science now, it only takes me a few min to remove the cowl and wiper assembly (I know, the whole spark plug/coil pack replacement should take only a few few minutes but, it is what it is...
I have my new plugs and now just debating, do I replace them now or wait till I get new struts and do them both at once. All the same crap has to come off.
Before the Citroen Xantia (around 1990) all Citroen cars with hidro pneumatic suspension had rock solid brake pedals. Brake pedal had no travel, braking action was controlled by how hard you pressed the pedal, not how much it moved.
Toyota had a similar problem in the Prius, as the brake pedal travel is not directly connected to how much the brakes are applied, due to regenerative braking stands in the way.
Toyota's solution is the contraption you are replacing in this video...
Citroen's solution was to add a spring between the pedal and the brake controller... Springs convert travel into pressure. Just what was needed.
That turned out great. Having said that, I don't think I'd do it. With some customers, if you install parts they supply that are defective and the car doesn't work, they won't pay you for your labor
Exactly, I know a guy that installed a engine THAT the customer supplied from junkyard, it was no good and she wanted him to swap another free of charge...He offered to supply the engine him self from the junk yard with a small markup that covered the labor in case of a bad engine, but she wanted to get it herself and save the 200$ markup. It costed her additional 600$ + for swapping the engine again.
Mechanics liens exist partly because because no mechanic can know for sure that any part built by other will work correctly.
Then you put a lien on their car and it’s yours to sell :)
@@psdaengr911 Right, but we don't know if Ivan had him sign anything
I've done this job without any scanner. After I replace the parts and Bleed the system car didn't want to start. Then I reflash ECM with the paper clip for 30 minutes and it's done. Works perfect with no issues.
Could he call the dealership and ask if the donor VIN has had the recall done already, suggesting that the supplied parts should not be an issue?
Or, maybe you can determine whether the supplied parts are post-recall parts by the P/N's or date codes on them.
icesoft, GREAT IDEA.
@@kellyx57 They would have different model numbers.
Good point! Many people don’t take into consideration the unspoken cost upfront or in repairs. This just happened to my neighbors car . Good by all your savings.
keep in mind, on top of the fuel savings, if the car is paid for, spending 2k to keep going for a while is only 4 months of payments roughly.
Good repair Ivan. Very complicated!
It’s nice to see a mechanic worth his salary. I gave up and just started going everything I could, God bless .
I have done a lot of those pumps working at Toyota ..they had extended warranty on most years 10 year/120 I think…
It’s not just hybrids. My sons 2013 2.0L Ecoboost Fusion had an issue where only one caliper was working and would manually bleed. They would all bleed if you used ForScan to run the ABS module bleed procedure but otherwise, nope. Took it to the dealer, bad ABS module (hydraulic unit) and since it was revised, the old ABS control unit wouldn’t recognize it. Long story short, new parts were $1,500 for both + labor $680.
I could’ve gotten used parts or reman parts but they were all old versions so it would’ve eventually had the same issue. Older gen fusions 2012 and below had a recall on these parts but 2013 was a different gen so, out of pocket for us.
Interesting video . . . just highlights the kind of bill you may have to face, on an early vehicle, if the dealer does the work.
It would of been free if the owner kept up on recalls which they failed to do
That’s incorrect. It was technically a customer relations bulletin. Toyota would only fix it if your Prius broke prior to ten years old and prior to 150k miles. Technically, it was never recalled for this issue
Thank you so much for your video ive watched several other videos for same repair and replacement but, what makes your clip unique and defferent than others is , that you showed both bleeding and calibration prosses nobody else has done it and I'm really greatful that you shared it. thanks again I wish you good luck and success hoping to see more videos from you in future.
I have 2 Priuses. One 2002 and one 2012. The 2002 Prius has 400,000 and I havent put a penny into it other than a $200 wheel bearing. The 2012 is going strong at 289,000.
I bought the 2002 brand new and I just bought thye 2012 for my wife.
Those cars are indestructible
Just did a Lexus GX470 same problem…
Bleeding by yourself sucks. A lot
Also used EBay bought parts with recall numbers matching!!!
It’s got the out of site warranty for me..
Have a great Holiday season.
God Bless you and the Mrs..
I use a 36 inch carpenters clamp from HarborFreight as a pedal depressor. Works better than the actual tool!
I just happen to have the 2010 Lexus version of this Prius ... Under the hood, they look identical. Reading the owners manual, they seem to want brake fluid changes a lot more frequently than any other vehicle I have ever owned. Now I am wondering if the complexity of this system is what requires more frequent fluid changes ... Just cheaper to keep your internal seals healthy ... Long and short of it is, unless I know you are planning on driving by my house and I can schedule a visit, this will be a dealer job for me! At least I now have a good idea what it is they really have to do. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
I had a second-gen Prius from about 145k to 185k miles. I had to rebuild the main battery, about $1200 for a refurbished kit plus my own labor. It was a great car but that is a hefty wear item. Hard to get new from a dealer apparently, they want to install it themselves, and they cost upwards of $3000
That’s not the only thing. Wait till is time to replace the batteries. The cost is astronomical
Normally on my Hybrid I only do the usual bleeding when needed, disconnect the battery and do normal brake bleed like any other car, learned it from a Toyota master tech. In your case you had to do the hard one because of parts replacement.
Great video, you explained the process very well. I would like to add to this I did everything like you described, but I could not calibrate the linear offset for nothing although I had great pressure all around. Vehicle was on the lift, I had a good pedal but could not get calibration blnking lights. I put the tires back on went for a spin and tried the "TEST MODE" in the autel 908pro after. I calibrated the "YAW RATE SENSOR AND STEERING ANGLE SENSOR" after that I got the lights to blink. I then went to Linear calibration and that was it. I hope that this helps someone out there, because it took me 2 days.
Fastest wiper assembly install I’ve ever seen 😂
My Prius 2010 started doing the hideous bozzing/whining noise at only 30,000 miles. I took it to two Toyota dealers in San Antonio, Texas to get it diagnosed and they both just did not acknowledge that there was an issue with the ABS/Brake Pump/Brake Booster/Actuator/Acumulator system and ignored me. Perhaps, because other than the 15 second interval buzzing noise, there were no alert lights on the dashboard, and stepping on the brake pedal stopped the car fine. I waited until my Prius had 47,000 miles and traded it in for a Honda HR-V because the Prius noise was driving me crazy. My 2010 Prius' VIN# was not part of the 2010 big Toyota recall list of Prius cars with the defective ABS. The one factor that pushed me the most to trade it, was that any of the Toyota dealers cared. I wished there was a guy in San Antonio like the Car Care Nut in youtube to fix my Prius but he is in Chicago. May be in another life.
Remember when you had to pump the brakes during the winter?
This recently happened to our 2014 Prius @ 76k miles. I took it to the dealership under an extended warrant but they did the repair under a Toyota Bulliten at no charge to us or our warranty company.
Great informative repair Ivan! I actually turned down one of these jobs because I was unsure my Thinktool Pros would have the bleed procedure. Great to know and that scanner is a beast!
Make sure to bring a gallon of brake fluid as well lmao
I want that Thinktool!! But I have my Launch X431 Pad V. They seem very similar except for the Network Tree. But That network tree.... I WANT IT! Lol
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics hey Ivan! Is there any other differences between the launch and thinktool? I have the pad V not the diagun like you but do you see any difference with your scanners?
I had a 2010 Prius but I traded it when it hit 100k due to concerns over battery life. As a result I had no major repair issues. I traded it in on a 2017 Prius Prime. That in turn was traded in at around 36k (we both retired in the meantime so drove a lot less) on a 2021 Mach E. Loving the Mach E but I do have some repair cost anxiety - though not enough to buy the extended warranty. I guess I’ll gamble a bit. 🤷♂️
We are running test on the Mach E we have 80 thousand miles on it so far with zero issues. I believe you will be okay. The Prius is still a very good reliable vehicle. You are never going to get a vehicle that will run perfect forever parts wear out
how you get around the liability aspect of the repair? if a major accident , they will come after you! Good shops would not touch it, unless it's a factory repair with new parts.
This video should help with that. All factory procedures followed and customer informed consent explanation. Would have been nice to get owner on camera but I’m hopeful paperwork reflects that.
@@damiangrouse4564 hopefully he has the business titled under some legal protection like LLC.
@@kkovler1 an LLC or Corp or whatever will not protect you from your own acts. They are designed to protect you from your employee's acts (and certain business financial aspects. You or your employee can be personally liable for your own acts and the company can be liable vicariously.
Often nobody goes after the employees because they don't have any money to collect. That changes or can change when the employee is the owner. Often though, they will only go after the amounts the insurance will pay because they don't have to waste time and money tracking down assets and collecting.
Thanks for this video, I have a 2012 Prius with the same problem. Because of where I am located and my steering wheel is on the right side of the car. I can't use US ebay parts, Toyota dealership don't stock the parts and would have to do a custom order and the qouted me 4k USD for the actuator alone. That is about half of my car's current value. The next option is to order a used part from Japan. Also now I know that I should check to make sure the Vin number from the donor car is not on the recall list. Thanks again for this Video 👍
The owner should give his head a shake for installing a recalled part from the junkyard into his car that could potentially be faulty. Brakes no less. I seriously hope Ivan you made him sign a disclosure for the work being done. Great job otherwise.
There's also a good possibility he got a part that had already been replaced under recall and he got the improved part. You could simply run that VIN and look for open recalls.
@@johnaclark1 Good point
@@johnaclark1 That's true but it's a gamble with a used part either way. Also most dealers will take back faulty parts under warrantee and either have them shipped back to the manufacturer to be destroyed. Junkyards around here will not sell calipers, rotors, brake valves or lines, or anything related to ABS due to liability. Tires even are popped when the vehicle gets to the scrapyard too much liability.
@@mplante7352 And yet you can find rebuilt master cylinders and calipers.
@@mplante7352 That's just the risk of used parts. No way around that. I've been in the used part business before and a good yard will stand behind their parts, though often it's just a refund as they may or may not have another one. But, yes, labor is up to the customer.
Ivan,
Great video and fix - thank you! You should do a video on taking the unit apart and replacing the seal.
Paul (in MA)
Here is one other thing to consider- if you live in the salt belt you will want to maintain your brakes at least as often as an ICE car. Rust jacking, freezing pins and rotted rotors will likely happen just as frequently as on your ICE car. So much for less brake service
@@Cheepchipsable because regenerative braking uses the electric motors to generate braking force and return energy to the battery. In the south, Prius brakes easily last 100k miles plus
I have a 2015 VOLT and use regen all the time, but also using regular braking half the time. Many ignorant people dont understand that those calipers need to move, so they dont seize.
@@bmw803 Ignorant people generally have "bad luck" with stuff breaking all the time. Most problems turn out to be the losse nut behind the steering wheel.
@@erik_dk842 Its not bad luck bro, 80% of car owners use their cars like a light bulb. On/off and bitch when shit breaks down due to a lack of care.
@@bmw803 That's why i put "Bad Luck" in quotation marks. Ignorant people create their own bad luck.
That's not a malfuction, its evolution. The brakes are alive and trying to learn
Wow...what a ridiculous, time consuming procedure. And thanks to you, I will never own a vehicle like this! 😆
I just went through this on a 2016 4runner with 150k miles. Put a brand new part in but got screwed at the brake bleeding part since I didnt have a scanner. It braked but had a permanent traction light on but nothing more i could do. Needless to say santa is sending me a scanner for Christmas that has these special functions and so much more.
Check your speed sensors and the wires. Also the connections
Wow, big thanks for holding a camera the whole time and sharing. Great job!
If you watch other Toyota/Lexus videos it's typical to remove wipers, wiper motor and cowl. It would've be nice if you had a helper. None the less great job. Very informative video.
Yo Ivan, you don't know how many brakes issues these hybrid vehicles are giving. Especially the brakes. Change out a few. Part is really expensive in comparison.
Well done ivan :-D
I expected the computer to demand you do a little dance with a teapot cosey on your head lol.
It would not supprise me :-D
Anti-Lock brakes are great as long as they're working and I've got to say that they are pretty reliable, but very expensive to fix. Brakes used to be so simple to work on, without all of the extra BS : )
So true. I have used ABS maybe twice per winter season and even then it wasnt necessary. Could have just pumped the pedal for same effect.
Ever since they started putting them new fangled hydraulic brakes in I new they would be a problem!
A lot of engineerog to avoid teaching drivers to maintain a safe distance and pump the brakes. ABS = A lot of BS. It and AVS are A lot of Very Stupid effort ot save the lives of bad drivers paid for by everyone else.
@@psdaengr911 Ummm...you do realise these bad drivers share the roads with everyone else?
@@psdaengr911 Pumping the brakes does not replace ABS.
Actually a very nice system, parts seem a bit pricey but I'm not going to argue with Toyota, their quality and durability is beyond question
Great diagnosis and fix Ivan! Quote for the day, " Fighting computers with computers"
You're bleeding brakes via the scan tool on a Toyota Prius and in contrast, I'm bleeding brakes manually on a 97' Toyota Hi-Lux/Surf.. Hahaha. Cheers!
Hey Aldrin, I would take the amazing HiLux over the boring Prius ANY day of the week!! 😁
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics , Definitely agree with you on that Ivan!
Replacing the equivalent unit in a Honda is a simple bleeding process and the unit is located at the top of the engine compartment.
Hybrids also do not have a alternator. They use a voltage converter to charge the 12v battery and power the 12v systems in the car. Have run into a couple hybrids that were not charging the 12v battery.
As clean as that engine bay is I'm surprised the owner opted for used parts. But great vid!
You also got to factor in the cost saved of not having to replace any belts, starter, alternator plus the cost of gas saved over a 10 year period of ownership. As someone stated you save over 9k in gas alone compared to 2010 corolla.
I had ASB going off on my Audi after i fitted a rear wheel bearing. Turned out to be a loose magnetic ring slipping on the bearing id already bought a new abs sensor. Was not till i plugged in diag that i could see the speed kept changing at about 10 mph.
It's amazing I was able to drive two different cars for 12 years with no power brakes and no power steering without any problems.
Toyota re-engineered the vacuum assisted brake system to full hydraulic system with nitrogen accumulator. On my Chevy, the engineers only added a vacuum pump to the brake booster for the times when the engine is off.
Good fix!
Time to trade it in. Owner got his/her money`s worth out of it. Personally, I would never own one, much less use recalled parts in ANY repair. I fear the owner is throwing good money at the repair, but using inferior parts that will haunt them later unless they dump it right after the repair. Once again, nice job Ivan.
You are stupid I have one the 2011 it has 500,000 miles on it $2,000 every now and then is no big deal
@@joshua-ov4ne That costs more then my non-hybrid 🤣
Now that is a complcated brake system. I'm not sure if I want to work on many of those. Thanks fior sharing !
Ivan thanks for sharing. Buyers are in for financial hardships if you can even afford one. You know Ivan back in the 70’s we were suppose to go green and they produced nothing but crap vehicles. This time I feel it’s going to be much worse if it ever happens. We shall see !!!!!! Ivan stay safe and well Artie 👍
Would the recall or parts catalogue not show the old recalled part numbers, and the superseded upgraded part numbers?
Stay gold.
Got 300k miles on my 2010 prius, no issues at all. I've owned it since new
This job is not as hard as replacing the same system on my 06 prius where you have to remove the innverter.
Remove the inverter? What the heck. Is that the generator/alternator?
@@stuartbear922 No, it's the unit that regulates the high / low voltages between DC and AC - a computer.
You are right, don't bring used part or even new part to a mechanic for installation, because if the part doesn't work, you will pay installation fee anyway, better let the mechanic deal with the part, but if you are going install it yourself then you can try used one.
I hope I never have to own one of those cars that's just ridiculous I'd take an old carbureted normal mechanical car any day
In all honesty though, don't you think there would an expensive maintenance / repair with any vehicle with 230k?
I wonder if brake system maintenance like fluid change is needed, like a non hybrid system? ABS system can cause trouble if fluid has gotten water in system and pitted equipment interior.
Yes
Imagine how many times this would have failed on a GM or Ford product in 260k
Helped a friend replace battery in his, the big battery. Wasn’t bad but follow instructions that thing can really electrocute ya. He bought a Dorman one, I don’t know if it is a rebuilt or new. Year later it was still ok. He did same job on brakes also with used parts.
When the boost system fails the failsafe is they still work with no boost it will stop but with a hard pedal
Good video. This looks like something I can probably do myself once 'acquiring' Techstream and the appropriate OBD-II dongle.
Chevys have had electric brake booster pumps for some engines since the mid 2000s and the same thing happens when theres a small leak in the brake booster diaphragm.
Ivan, hope you never become a Toyota used car salesman. You know too much. Great job! Thanks for Sharing!
I'll leave that job to Scotty Kilmer haha
The complexity of this device is so that the regenerative and hydraulic braking are seamlessly integrated in to the brake pedal. Tesla have a brake booster that is actuated with an electric motor and a gear train rather than vacuum. There's a tear down on here of one. The regen on a tesla is integrated in to the accelerator pedal instead, which is configurable in software.
i've driven a mazda2 for 9 years....standard transmission....lovely little car, no problems of any kind whatsoever....it now needs new tires finally.
Hybrids are definitely costly to repair, however, this brake problem is the first mechanical problem I have had with my Prius in 10 years and 115,000 miles. So that Toyota reliability that has saved me $$ over the years. Just my luck, now the end of the service campaign has passed and my car just decided to start throwing the C1391 code every once in a while, for a few minutes, then the lights go off again. Priced the parts at several dealerships that sell parts online and the lowest is just under $1800. That's for both the pump and the master cylinder assembly.
I can buy 3 used beater cars for that much $$ 😅
I got very good at removing the wiper tray and associated parts on my Prius!
Its super easy and beneficial to remove wipers and cowling. Just because its about 20 bolts doesn't mean it will take more then 3 min to remove.
No scanner required for bleeding procedure. Done it myself and replaced the pump assembly in less than 2 hours with bleeding procedure included !
I owned a Lexus Hybrid that was a nightmare when things broke, though things didn’t break often…so give and take.
Love how you havent succumbed to the newer is better BS. And also how you use whatever you can find to get the job done without buying every new tool on the market. This is what every mechanic should aspire
I respect vehicles that are reliable, and cheap and easy to repair and maintain...basically the opposite of Hybrids haha
lots of cars now have electric vacuum pumps for brake boosting. Honda Civic, and Tesla both use the same BOSCH electric vacuum pump brake booster.
Hi Ivan, I have to say well done. There is no way I will ever own one. However, like you if I get brought one I guess I will have to fix it. Currently working on a very sick 1996 F250 7.3 Diesel.
Sounds like a fun project!
Great Vidya Ivan! On an unrelated note, I had a no parts required fix on an ‘08 Ford Escape Electric Power Steering system! I got a bit lucky because I couldn’t find much service data and also the module didn’t give live data. Anyways it was a WIN none the less! Posting it tmrw morn. Gave you a shout out in my vid. Lol. I know how you Russians like your no parts required fixes! Haha
there goes all the money they saved on gas next will be the battery,,an the car is not worth that
A late model accumulator will swap on and solve the problem most time. Still a pia to change, but got my 6k mi for under a $100 used, and too my time over a day. They should remote these and make serviceable like Citroen spheres. FYI, while you wait to repair, holding the pedal to the floor for a couple of minutes will let the system pressurize enough to allow the the system to operate for a short time. The warmer it is outside, the less time you get. This will put a lot more wear and tear on the pump though, and you will lose regen while the lights are one. Oh, techstream software is available for doing the blessing cheaply. It is sketchy, but we are trying to do repairs right, so…
Every time I see one of those I can't help but think of the South Park episode *Smug Alert* from years ago. "Toyonda Pious"
THA-AAANKS! That was a hilarious episode xD
great result on the gamble of used parts.
Biggest issue with the modern so called green hybrid and battery cars is massive amount of parts and service materials consumed mixed with short working life pretty much counteracts any environmental saving from emissions .
I do a lot of Subaru and Toyota hybrids and even newer models not smart enough charge the 12v battery from high voltage battery and thanks to all the module wake ups parasitic draw is real high on these things and they eat 12V batteries real bad unless do constant regular driving and great at leaving owners stranded with a flat battery or looking complete twits at the airport after a vacation lol .
Lot of owners pissed off with them already and I don't fancy dealing with the junk in a decades time lol .
They do sweat nothing for mother earth if fully review life to death pollution but are great at emptying consumers pockets !
Front brakes bleeding like on normal vehicle and rear brakes are bleeded by just a soft touch on the brake pedal(electric actuaded).
Wipers out always on most cars and vans now
Yes it's ridiculous design but but don't forget what's ridiculous is emissions laws crash and god knows how many other laws that interfere with the engineer's work having said that yes engineers need to hold some and try to open broken studs and rusted studs andaluz in a load of s*** that we have to deal with everyday your videos are very avid fan I love to interject sometimes as as I've been doing it for a long time and thank you again 💖
These hybrids are so high tech that to do simple maintenance like bleeding brakes it's a PITA.
I am a "lucky" prius owner. In the first year of ownership of my used 2010 prius with 107k miles the actuator and pump failed, somebody cut off my catalytic converter, and... my hybrid and auxiliary batteries failed. Fun times. Now that all the expensive stuff got replaced I am looking forward to driving it into the ground. Can I get another 200k out of it? I hope so...lol
Yes.. it was about $3900, under recall.. at the dealer..
If it's a bleed down problem can you place a one way check valve between the pump and reservoir.
The reason I bought a 2008 Prius in 2017 was to save money. I got the car @ 97k miles and it has had ABS issues since 120k. I now have 155k on it. It seems that whatever money one would save in gas would be spent on repairs. I would not suggest anybody buy a Prius, ever.
Wait a minute..That part fell off the Millennium Falcon on Star Wars..."Return of the Prius"
That car has a water cooled battery 😂
Lmao good one.
Another great video. Trying to save $ now does not guarantee a savings later. I’m sure others have witnessed this in many aspects. Absolutely love this channel, have for years!
I think the idea of "there goes your fuel savings" is misleading. Prius is extremely reliable. It's usually hitting 100K miles before you even need to do the brakes. He's working on a car there at 230K miles. How many thousands of dollars in parts and repairs would any other car have ran up by that point? The reason we bought our Prius was to replace a car that was eating $1K here, another $1K there... from 120K miles onward. I doubt the Prius is much worse over the same mileage.
Great point. Also not to mention the 7 tons (14,000 lbs) of* additional* carbon the driver would have injected into the atmosphere over 230k miles. This math assumes that the 45mpg Prius was twice as efficient gallon per gallon of the vehicle alternative. That's another reason I chose a hybrid over a standard gasoline vehicle.
i guess it would be different if the car wasnt 11 years old and had over 200,000 miles. Any car with Electronic parking brake and no vacuum assist from the motor will have a similar bleed procedure. i dont know if you noticed but most cars are being engineered so you cant work on them without a scan tool
After watching this brake renewal sit rep I will never ever consider buying a Prius for any reason even cheaply. If people watched you do this procedure they would think twice about buying something like this hemorrhage.
Those parts being sold second hand were fished out of the Toyota dumpster from recalled Toyotas.