All Transformation Of Tony Tony Chopper (2024)
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
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Tony tony chopper so kawaii
That wont make me fun
Thanks
But hes deadly af
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Kiute
I think we all can agree, that most of the pre timeskip forms look really badass and the new forms make him look like a little kid.
And i love it
@@santiagovieira385 the new forms are just... it doesn’t really feel like the chopper I used to know
@@bentorian3414 hes so cute tho
@@Zip_Zap_Zop the problem is, now he is only cute and not also badass
@@Jotarokun2233 but dont we already have badass members on the crew?
The fact he can specifically alter his Devil fruit for the transformations with medicine of his own formula is very impressive, imagine what other Zoan type users could do with the medicine, I can imagine Monster Point isn’t something that’s exclusive to Chopper and other people can also transform into monstrous kaiju-esque creatures
kaido with monster point would be wild
Like Queen and Black Maria?
@@Ace-yd9sr what if it's already monster point? probably not but that'll be cool i think
@@Ace-yd9sr world serpent Kaido
@@Ace-yd9sr that would literally just be king ghidorah from godzilla
"I wanted to look normal to get friends"
"now I want to become a monster for my friends sake"
Yup sounds about right
Jotaro Kujo yeah pretty much the same
@Jotaro Kujo yare yare daze
yuop
*Proceeds to turn one of his most monstrous forms into a cosplaying humanoid.
To be fair, when you value something or someone you go against your own ethics just to keep them safe.
Pre-Timeskip Chopper Design >>>>>>>>> Post-Timeskip Chopper Design
On GOD!!!!!!!!!!
@Jotaro Kujo facts
He got cuter no prob with that
He looked so much cooler pre timeskip.
@@Mike_Dubo but he's so precious post timeskip
Now its just all kung fu point and monster point its so repetitive to watch. I wanna see the old chopper who switch back and forth in fights.
didjt he use arm point in on piece: heart of gold tho
Gneo Z I don’t recall him using Monster Point apart from Fishman Island.
@@rollingapples6579 *possible spoilers if not caught up*
Once on Punk Hazard (twice if you count shambles Franky Chopper), once again while defending the Sunny against Big Mom herself.
dscorpfantom Oh damn I guess they really aren’t that impactful anymore since I don’t remember them Rip. And I’m caught up, chapter 978+
@@rollingapples6579 oh, I was talking anime wise, not sure if Chop goes monster after Fishman Island in manga.
Remember when Chopper had a red leather jacket? Man, he looked fine as hell
Dude he only wore that in Enies Lobby
@@masterknife8423 still looked cool
chopper drip
@@masterknife8423So..?
He did look pretty good in that jacket.
I must say almost all his forms looked better pre timeskip
I want him to be the cute little Teddy Bear
Chopper: IM A REINDEER!
@Doffy Donquixote I know, that's the joke.....
Post time skip looks better accept for king fu point and monster point used too be scarier
Bubbles raccoon-Chan
carrot can be a stuffed looking bear
I like the post-timeskip Horn Point the most. It makes Chopper actually look his age. Though the timeskip overall made him lose a lot of his reindeer-ness, he DID eat the Human Human Fruit, so I think it’d make sense if he became more and more human and less reindeer as time went by. At least he has Walk and Monster point with the snout.
We need more Horn Point, I think. Then again, we just need more of Chopper in battle.
Arm and leg point looks much better than kung fu point
Date Masamune Indeed.
That's what think, hope he still can do that especially the signature move with arm point, find the weakness part and straight attack! Left the nail shape in enemies body
Date Masamune I feel like it’s a Kung fu panda reference
Its merchandising
now his basic human form is powerful enough to combine those two
Kung-Fu Point is a balance between strenght, defence and agility, and that's why I HATE it, the whole point of Chopper having so many different forms is because each form specialices in a certain area:
Base Forms: (These have the adventage that Chopper can access them without the Rumble Ball)
- Brain Point: Strategy and analysis (With Rumble Ball, without it's just cute).
- Walk Point: Speed and a bit of agility.
- Heavy Point: Balance of strenght and defence (But not as good in neither as much as Arm or Guard), and sometimes helps him to somehow pretend to be human with a bit of clothes on.
Rumble Ball Only Forms:
- Guard Point: Defence.
- Jumping Point: Agility (Better than Walk).
- Arm Point: Strenght.
- Horn Point: Strenght too...? I'm not sure with this one, I guess it's better than Arm when fighting multiple opponents at once (like in Franky House), the good thing is that after time skip it's now excavation.
- Monster Point: Immense strenght and defence, but only as last ressort.
When I learned in Fishman Island that Chopper didn't need the Rumble Ball anymore for any of his forms except for Monster, I got really excited, but now that he has Kung-Fu Point, it just ruins everything, because now Chopper pretty much only uses that form to fight because it's so balanced, so now we rarely see Walk, Heavy or Guard, and he apparently completely forgot about Jumping, and for some reason he hasn't used Horn ever since Fishman Island even though it offers something that Kung-Fu doesn't, so pretty much all the time he only uses Kung-Fu and Monster when he needs an extra boost of power, like, why bother having all these forms if you're just gonna have a balanced form that renders most of the others pretty much useless.
That's why I hate Kung-Fu Point.
Zet683 holy shit it’s strength you twat.
Basically kungfu point is the combination of jump and arm point. He can jump around and do a massive damage without changing form from 1 to another 1. That makes him faster. Heavy point useful for working heavy duty or in combat useful for lock or grip. Horn can excavate, guard for guard, and monster with side effect.
So... In combat, u may be see kungfu only because it guaranteed win.. Other form is just situational
And it looks terrible
Nigga tmi
Horn point is my favourite
To be fully honest, I like pre skip chopper It shows how chopper switches thru forms and not just Kung fu point
Pre-skip chopper>new chopper
Very nice and detailed presentation, I like it. Although you might wanna change the color of the text. It's sometimes hard to make out with the backgrounds.
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Ironically, you have Tony tony chopper as your picture
COOLSKELETON95 That’s not what irony is.
@@COOLSKELETON-ws2vl not what irony is at all
Personally I think Chopper looked better before the time skips
Serious it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 💔😭😭
Oh ye, specially monster point
agree
Only brain point is better post time-skip
@@jvglitchyelite1858 nope
It really disturb me how he just using kungfu point in every battles
What do you want him to do, fight in brain mode?
@@unnamedvisitor1649 arm point horn point heavy point there still much
@@dickyevaldo8816 do u even watch one piece bro? Arm point is changed to kungfu point
@@rizalwinata yeah i know, hwta i mean is srm point still far better than kungfu point
Right? There’s no strategy in there
Pre-time ski Chopper looks so much cuter than the post-time. The post-time design was obviously designed to be more cuter which actually backfired as it became "too cute" to the point that it looks generic or too much.
Fr his body to head ratio is just way too much now
It’s looks more “chibi”and less “baby”
"Alright, we gotta give him a full name, what have you got for me?"
"I thought really carefully, and I think Tony would be an awesome middle name!"
"Wait, I picked Tony for the first name!"
"F*ck it, we'll use Tony for both!"
All older designs were better
Creepynumbersheep I think the new horn point looks cooler but apart from that they all got a downgrade especially arm point
yes and looks more badass. the new design looks to friendly.
IIAlucardII hes a medic
@@atotallyrealhuman8780 what would you say with this ?
It looks like chopper got younger after the time skip, i miss his old hat
event though chopper has all that transformation but his bounty only 100 berries
The Government takes him as a pet of the Straw Hat Crew. Poor Chopper! 😥
@@itsmorte even if they consider him a pet hes still part of the straw hats and if considered a pet he could lead the marines to the straw hats.
The funny thing is that if they got a picture of monster point and saw its power his bounty would easily be 60-150M or even more like fr when we saw it for the first time he was out of control and was able to take hits from a CP9 member without even taking any damage and basically one shot him and was almost unstoppable if it wasn't for Franky's coup de vent and the water bellow him and after timeskip he can control it at will with the rumble ball so he can use its power to the full extent and if there were to be another time skip he would probably be able to use it without the rumble ball
So because his primary form is an adorable one akin to a plush toy and his secondary one is basically his OG form before eating the fruit that of actual reindeer.
Which led to his status as essentially Luffy's pet in the eyes of the world government
Soul and if you Plus the part that he is THE DOCTOR of the crew, the one how can let all of the straw hat live after a thought Battle, literally he would be the most dangerous for the goverment
My favorites
Pre-timeskip: Arm Point
Post-timeskip: Horn Point
Also I hate Kung Fu Point lmao
same
Kung Fu point is great for normal fighting, but yeah I prefer if he used arm point because its more destructive or monster point. Horn point look cleaner and it lose its scary look, but he can stand at two feet which awesome for maneuvering.
It looks like fricking Po
And I miss his Scope
Chopper never uses Scope anymore :(
Why won’t Oda add this back in after their 2 years?
because imbalance ability
Cause it makes him a sitting duck for really fast opponents, it's just not a usefull skill to keep relying on.
RedfurredPikachu then why don’t they just reduce the time it takes him to complete it
@@vascoshot316 It STILL means he'd have to stand still while he's doing it and in the new world it's just not a smart option to be relying on.
RedfurredPikachu then make it so he can do it on automatic while moving
Arms Point... The transformation that will surely be missed...😭
With the possible exception of Sanji, i really prefer all of the pre-timeskip designs for all characters. It’s most noticeable with Chopper because he had so many different forms, and most of the new designs are a bit offputting. Only Monster Point is relatively unchanged, and so it’s fine. Especially missed is the old Horn Point and Jump Point
Nah usopp got a glow up
@@Zip_Zap_Zop they all got except chopper and robin
Chopper's abilities are so underrated. It should be appreciated a lot more
Slight clarification. Kung Fu Point is actually a combination of Arm Point and Jumping Point. All the acrobatics of Jumping combined with the raw might of Arm.
makes no sense with those stubby little arms. Dumbest design ever
I love chopper so much... and i missed his old transformations...
Most people hate chopper Kung Fu point cause he doesn't use any other points now, but you got to realize their in the grand line now where almost every pirate, marine, bandit, assassin, etc knows at least one maybe two forms of haki. And are super strong and fastier then every, chopper doesn't have time to keep change forms in the heat of the battle it could cost him his life. I feel Kung Fu point is a great improvement for chopper
Not really an excuse. His rapid shapeshifting was what made Chopper's fighting sty so versatile and unique to begin with. Having him rely on less forms despite having many made him very stale. Arm Point in particular was alot more clever in execution. The idea to connect his hoofprint attacks to the shape of cherry blossom was a great way to link his fighting style back to his dream inherited by Dr. Hiruluk.
If Oda got rid of Arm and Jumping Point for it, least he could do is make it a fusion of the two. Design-wise, Kung Fu Point is the ultimate zero-effort form.
No matter how they dislike Chopper's Kung-Fu Point...to me it's very versatile and awesome, it's also because I love Kung-fu! 😎 🇵🇭
Everybody loves kung-fu
If Oda got rid of Arm and Jumping Point for it, least he could to is make it a fusion of the two. Design-wise, Kung Fu Point is the ultimate zero-effort form.
Kung Fu point looks rad as hell but I do miss his older forms. I wish he kept them so Chopper became a sort of Swiss army knife having a Point for every situation like he used to pre-timeskip. Now it seems like he just uses Kung Fu, Horn and Monster Point
@@Subpar1O1He only used horn like once in fishmen island and never used it again
I hope chopper will have something scary and op like the pre timeskip monster point.
Maybe...
He needed to take 3 rumble balls pre time skip to get to monster point, right? Now he only needs one to get to monster point, but what happens if he takes three?
@@RealEppstore Same thing
No he just look like dancing giant teddy bear after time skip
Monster point with haki
Sometimes, we forget how strong Chopper actually is because of how cute he is
And because his bounty is ridiculous.
He was able to fight against Queen, that's not nothing...
That and Oda got rid of his cooler forms to push more into the cuteness, a big mistake imo.
Fr. This man defeated big mom in a fight with JUST the help of Usopp. Choppers power is really strong if you think about it
@@kevs_7753Because they thought Chopper is harmless pet, not a strong beast
The old horn point is better than the new one
No I think that the newer one is better but it is your opinion
I think the new one looks stupid.
Yeah, I like the old version too. Actually from my opinion, all the old transformation makes him look stronger
Same, it made him looks like an actual Reindeer
Both are cool for me
So um, who said Chopper was weak?
The Weakling Trio, are actually hella strong. They just need more courage, and time.
I mean chopper was never weak it’s just he is scared
He said it himself
the strawhats would be twice as strong if usopp nami and chopper actually had the courage to fight, especially usopp
@@The_Vanni like literally they could be on zero or Sanji’s level if they faced their fears
@@bentorian3414 yeah, but i think it's a good way to balance out the sky-smiting thunder witch that Nami is
His old horn point looks so damn good
Chopper is my favorite character
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So who said Tony Tony Chopper was weak. As far as I can see it looks like he can handle himself very well
well, the problem of chopper its that he is part of the coward trio (usopp, nami and chopper)
@@MilkEnjoyer2 okay technically hasn't Chopper actually One More Bounce than a lot of the other people.
He's just kinda a coward like Usopp. If they both let go of their inhibitions they would be monsters of the New World.
@@pistachiostash3342 once chopper got into fights pre time skip he would go serious mode and I rlly couldn’t tell if he was scared because he wanted to give his all, now when he fights post time skip it’s for laughs and games
@@bentorian3414 hey say whatever you want my dude but he's the team's White mage. And you don't fuck with the white mage.
Might the most talented Zoan type user.
I like chopper but Sengoku and Marco are also talented zoan type
@@gufouuubolado4650 but their fruits are significantly stronger while chopper fruit is weaker
@@kazukimisaki2312 true
@Cyrus Connell nop, Oda states that the human who eats hito hito no mi becomes an enlightened
@@brunorodriguez1817 false. He said that as a joke.
I always like arm point
Malcolm Giles EASILY his coolest form, if you ask me.
MrWhatdafuBOOM No.. The horn point..
Nashiru Rappa ナッシュ Agree if old one, disagree if new one.
MrWhatdafuBOOM Well both.. But I think the new has a bit more power I think..
Nashiru Rappa ナッシュ I think the old one is cooler and more intimidating, but I have to admit the new onr is more useful. I just find it odd that Chopper said he wanted to become a true monster, yet one of his most monstrous forms turned into one of his most human.
2:45 and the whole fight scene is my favorite part in the whole series of chopper fighting. I wish he would still switch from point to point then he would be stronger and makes good use of his 7 points, and keep in mind regular down have 2 so he should be op
the monster point is the awakening of the zoan type akuma no mi but when it is fully awakened it becomes permanent if the person controls this awakening it gives that person a monster estature (even though that person can control it) and a seemingly immortality (you take damage but you cant die), just like Jack and the younkou Kaidou, the artificialy zoan can only tranform parts of it's body into animal parts, with the explanation of chopper about the akuma no mi wavelenght you can understad that a zoan type can only have 4 transformations (including the awakening) and an artificial zoan could only transform parts of the animal it is based from without getting an awakening (yet, because it's awakening could be the normal transformations) but the thing about chopper is that he can do anything that both a normal zoan and an artifical zoan can do with the rumble ball (before and after the time skip) plus an pre-awakened form with the monster point and I think that he will be able to learn the electro from the mink tribe because of his fur and to top it of he will be able to study the true awekening of the zoan devil fruit
To Infinity And Beyond there's was that saying in a cap. That made me think a lot: "They say there is no MAN that can defeat Kaido, lord of the BEASTS" since i heard i've been thinking: WOW what if Chopper can deafeat Kaido for some reason!? (This keeps me awake at night)
are you saying that the rumble ball awakens chopper's devil fruit?
You know what the Monster 👹 Point form reminds me of? It reminds me of the Wendigo
Heh?
I notice that almost all of Chopper's point forms had that shade over their eyes which gave him either an intimidating look or a mystery look. After the time skip however, said shade is now absent and makes him look cuter or funnier.
I personally think he is the best character period. He is innocent, caring, and always willing to help his friends. He is a wonderful character and i would hate to see him mistreated in the anime.
I take it you having watched his backstory then
Chopper revealing he is the One Piece at the end of the series is gonna be pretty nice 👌
The old chopper looks good,
In fighting he always transform.
In Latest episode he only use same transformation.
Some of chopper's transformations looked better before. Amongst the new ones, the regular form and horn point looks the best. I miss the old horn point too tho. And I love both the old and new guard point
I definitely miss some of the old forms and how they looked, but I feel like Post-Timeskip walking point and Brain Point are improvements.
The pre timeskip chopper looks so scary badass and villain looking
chopper looked so op before now he is just kawaii
Chobro is so cute in the Brain-form before Time-skip
Jeffy TheLegend IKR? He looks so dead-eyed and doll-faced nowadays! >~
Yes! And I hate the big head, it makes him look, I dont know, a little stupid or something
Jeffy TheLegend Couldn't agree more, he looks a doll version of himself. Take the scene where Nami first met Chopper on Drum and compare it when we first see him after 2 years on Sabaody. They don't even look like the same CHARACTER. -_-
MrWhatdafuBOOM, Did we just become best friends?
Jeffy TheLegend YES.
Hol up its 2020,but the title says 2019
But date says 3 years ago
I love how jarringly non-cute most of Chopper’s pre-timeskip forms are compared to Brain Point.
Time skip Chopper used the arm point in one of the movies
Antonio Moorer Yeah, Heart Of Gold, my favorite scene! xD
Wait until he learns haki
KaKarot Uchiha
I’m waiting :”v
I miss Chopper before time-skip. 😢
Me too :(
Why did they have to change the original designs?.... Omg.. This is why the older original One Piece is better XD
Except for horn point
"original one piece"
No its nice to show development in everything it would be so boring if he looked the same. And all forms look better in my opinion
the new buff human chopper looks veird with the fure in that shape XD
@@MadFake9939 no what he meant was the big head bullshit, they are trying to make him look like shitty pikachu. he look so much better when his body is proportional.
@@MadFake9939 meh, his new Brain point looks like nothing more than a chibi to me. I think the animators got a bit lazy after the time skip. I prefer the days when he actually looked like a reindeer.
Chopper is 100% my fav character, he's cute, funny, has a touching backstory, and is EXTREMELY strong, sadly his true strength is almost never showed. There is also so many people that hate post timeskip chopper, and yes i agree its true that pre timeskip chopper was beter, but comon dude he basically stils the same
Post time skip chopper looks younger and smaller pre time skip is way netter
I like pre time skip horn point better than after, but I must say that after time skip horn point Chopper looks more like a kid which I like
Feel the legends of the kong fu reindeer
2:40 脚力強化
4:01 腕力強化
6:39 カンフーポイント
Old chopper with the shadow on his eyes damnn
アームポイントとかの変身形態は2年前の方が怪物感あって好き、2年後は全体的に可愛くて好きだけども(笑)
Chopper the Original Pokemon in OP.
Fun Fact: Satoshi´s/Ash´s Pikachu has the same VA
Cant wait to see what he is really capable of in Wano!
Industrialman96 7u7 yup 7u7
What do you think?
Dissapointed :D@@thetoot9615
@@Industrialman96 Lol hopefully he gets something cool before the series ends
I like all the old ones better except for horn point because it makes him look like a cartoon character straight out of a show about bugs
I feel chopper has either traded arm point for kung fu point or chopper has been saving arm point as a last resort gas out move. Arm point was so cool but it had only such use as being the ko move set. Hope to see it again
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Just gonna day this was posted 3 years ago and it says 2019 like how the hell
chopper kung fu point is just "i ate to much buffolo wild wings and i know kung fu"
Transformations:
Guard point
Heavy point
Brain point
Kung fu point
Walk point
Monster point
Horn point
And jumping point
Arm point aswell
Jake Hoina wait dies this mean chopper has 9 Points after The time skip because arm and Leg WE havent Seen yet
Chopper said that the rumble ball is made for devil fruit eaters.. I wonder what would've happen if luffy eats one.
I didnt even know that! I would wanna see what robin could do with it tho cuz she's smart and creative...
If she can already do giant hands without the rumble ball,with the rumble ball she would become a titan user like in Attack On Titan
@@gladiumthebrazilian7803 this.. Might be true 😱
4:49 the music from one piece unlimited cruise 😍😍
The forearm is from wrist to elbow, elbow to should are biceps and triceps. Just clearing this out that was mentioned at arm point
tony tony chopper = cute cute chopper
itz flame facts
Too cute
smol adorable reindeer, also the music is in time with monster point chopper
i honestly think choppers human fruit is one of the most mysterious in the series he can transform into a giant which hints its connection to elbaf which is a whole other box of frogs
I feel like we should really get some more lore on Chopper's fruit considering Luffy's is literally the same type as his lol
In 2019,Chopper has taken a new form
Its called "Zombie Deer Disease"
Andrei Avellana omg lol
To see how much they understimate chopper
I've never seen this enormous fighting potential of him before
I remember there was a chopper only manga where he is a doctor in a school and he protect children from sanji, luffy, nico robin as monster, and also nami is a principal
Knowledge error!
Sorry, Itachi InAnime but your knowledge of Chopper's Arm Point changing into Kung-Fu Point is wrong. After the Time-Skip, it was Chopper's Jump Point that change into Kung-Fu Point, it wasn't his Arm Point that change, he kept that transformation.
Nah
He didn't kept the arm point
@@m.hisyam982
He did!
@@d.l.technic5 at which episode?
@@m.hisyam982
I'll let you know when I check ✔ for a episode.
@@d.l.technic5 i just checked
After the time skip chopper didn't kept his arm point
I miss arm point
Tony Tony chopper is one of the cutest character in One Piece in my opinion
Ngl chopper is one of the greatest characters in one piece
Chopper: I want to be like a human so I can have friends.
Also chopper: Has monster point
:v kesesto?
LOL!
:v dame corazoncito pls
The way a chopper was hiding behind chopper's back on the thumbnail
Chopper reminds me a LOT of Bruce Banner/The Hulk, except with Chopper to some extent has a degree of control over his forms, though he does like the Hulk lose some restraint over his forms more gradually (at least pre time skip).
I'm so sorry but I can't stand kung fu point 😭 it's all he uses now and I really don't like how it looks or how he fights with it. I don't even like the sounds he makes!!!
True :(
Probably it got something to do with Japanese/Asian culture since its wano after all lol, like sumo wrestler 😂
Time skip chopper looks kawaii in every form old chopper looks brutal and serious in almost all his forms
Thanks! Now I know all of my favorite character's forms!
The vibes i get from:
Pre timeskip Monster point:
"IT'S THE MONSTER, RUN FOR YOUR LIFES!!!"
Post Timeskip Monster Point:
"oh, he Chopper is serious... What ever"
Chopper, so big, yet his bounty is so little.
Chopper forms post time skip: "look how they massacred my boy"
Basically kungfu point is the combination of jump and arm point. He can jump around and do a massive damage without changing form from 1 to another 1. That makes him faster. Heavy point useful for working heavy duty or in combat useful for lock or grip. Horn can expectation, guard for guard, and monster with side effect.
So... In combat, u may be see kungfu only because it guaranteed win.. Other forms are situational.
Love this video. Love the music too. What music is playing in this video of Chopper's transformations?
(2023)-"6 years ago"
It makes sense it all makes sense it will all make more sense in 6 more years
Ironic that he flat-out said that he wanted to be more monstrous post-timeskip, but only one of his forms actually got more monster-like.
Chopper is a multi talented boy😃. Sounds cool😀
my five year old wants to be Dr. Tony Tony Chopper ( with Hero cape ) all the time !
so that's how we dress him
Not gonna lie, the Post-timeskip Chopper and most of his forms look like if he got younger instead of older. Pre-TS Chopper's forms look more powerful and stronger than the ones after 2 years