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  • @tclarkson2000
    @tclarkson2000 2 місяці тому +23

    Fantastic update, thanks! As an Australian, I love eucalyptus. But also horrified that other countries have plantations of them, like I am about out Australian plantations of invasive pine trees. Eucalyptus are the dominant tree genus, evolved to be the backbone of the unique Australian glora and fauna for 60 million years. They have their own soil microbiota, and are (mostly) actively fire promoting, because they survive fire so well while it eliminates much of the competition. It is wild to me to have plantations of eucalypts in Portugal, and yes, there would be huge problems with fires as a result.
    I can't wait to see the restored Portuguese ecosystem!!

    • @mei2045
      @mei2045 2 місяці тому +1

      They've been around for 200 years or more, and they make a lot of money (2% of GDP?), so I'm guessing some people will have quite a hard time letting go. Is there coordination with Portugal's nature organisations and if not, why not?

    • @lorrainegatanianhits8331
      @lorrainegatanianhits8331 2 місяці тому

      www.econ.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/ENGLANDER_Lila_Spring%202021.pdf
      Eucalyptus trees do not increase fire risk.
      Big misconception.

  • @triestedevlin7299
    @triestedevlin7299 Місяць тому +3

    You should definitely do audio recordings for projects like this!! I used to work with AudioMoth units, you really can hear in the landscape how many birds are and what their territories are like. It would be so cool to hear an analysis of a forest returning to health, or many forests into health 😍

  • @Nphen
    @Nphen 3 місяці тому +54

    Project Kamp is in Portugal and they do work on removing fire-prone non-native trees like mimosa (acacia) and eucalyptus from their property. They have tried many ways to kill the stumps. Glad to hear you're trying to sell timber to fund the project. There will be trees coming down that aren't good for lumber. Mulch some down to woodchips (neighbors might have equipment to borrow) and leave the rest as deadfall. You can take medium-thin trees and weave them into contour lines to catch water & sediment running down hill and serve as a refugium for insects.

    • @mediagreenhouse45
      @mediagreenhouse45 3 місяці тому +4

      With that many eucalyptus it might be not so good for bottom life to leave it all... Insects are often actually put off by the mulch, better to get most of that timber outta there, on the oher hand, that can be an exccelent mulch for ornamentary gardens and pots, as they repel ants and so on to some extend

    • @CitizenAyellowblue
      @CitizenAyellowblue 3 місяці тому +16

      Hi, Australian here with loads of experience with eucalyptus. You will probably find that using a lot of chipped eucalyptus as mulch will be a problem. All parts of the plants contain allelochemicals that will prevent, inhibit or retard the germination and/pr growth of some or maybe many of your target species. I very strongly avoiding using lots of eucalyptus unless you do some trials first to tell you whether allelopathy is a problem. Ignore this at your peril!

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CitizenAyellowblue Project Kamp cuts down almost exclusively mimosa trees, very few eucalyptus, which are on a neighboring property. I didn't know Eucalyptus can't be used for ground mulch. Ecosia will have to figure out what to do with the tree remnants then!

    • @mei2045
      @mei2045 2 місяці тому

      @@mediagreenhouse45 No, Eucalyptus is rotten with a year and gone within two to three in my experience. There are clearly some Insects who love it. There seem to be a great many myths surrounding eucalyptus that everyone seems to just repeat.

    • @LitoGeorge
      @LitoGeorge 2 місяці тому +1

      Consider learning what a Hugelkulture is, and see if you can use the cut wood to benefit the forest, the faun and flora, as well as the microbiology of the area by this method. Its well tested and productive around the world.

  • @WJSipe1
    @WJSipe1 3 місяці тому +94

    I’m not sure why people are being rude about the video format. Not every video needs a drone budget. Learn from the nice lady or wait for the long form content…

    • @ambrosenuk
      @ambrosenuk 3 місяці тому +8

      Like, it's not even in the main channel, it's in the notes channel

    • @DanieHattingh
      @DanieHattingh Місяць тому +1

      Because they paid GOOD MONEY FOR THIS AND THEY DESERV....oh wait. Nevermind. It's almost like people suck isn't it?

  • @filipe373
    @filipe373 3 місяці тому +32

    É por isto que eu doo para mossy earth! Finalmente alguém a fazer algo em relação aos eucaliptos em Portugal

  • @NoahHagen
    @NoahHagen Місяць тому +1

    I love these update videos, makes it easy to keep up with all these amazing projects! Would love to do this for a living ❤

  • @nopstrum
    @nopstrum 3 місяці тому +9

    great project - a problem that does need addressing!
    looking forward for more videos on this, keep up the good work mossy earth

  • @Evan-hy8tn
    @Evan-hy8tn 3 місяці тому +31

    There's a group trying to restore landscape in Portugal called "Project Kamp". They also have mimosa and eucalyptus tree problems! Y'all may want to work / learn from them.

    • @contentcreator808
      @contentcreator808 3 місяці тому +5

      a collab of you two would be amazing!

    • @felixmussik7203
      @felixmussik7203 3 місяці тому +3

      I suggested a colab about a year ago, but never heard back :D
      I mean they seem to be doing well on their own for the time being and only own a limited amount of land anyhow.

    • @acephalica
      @acephalica 3 місяці тому +2

      You have no idea about how much land is invaded with eucaliptus monoculture and acacia here in Portugal. These two youtube channels show only a micro tiny glimpse of it.

    • @QuintaLimaPortugal
      @QuintaLimaPortugal 2 місяці тому +2

      Although I really like Project Kamp, their methods might be a bit too time consuming and labour intensive. With the right machinery, you can cut all the mimosa's/eucalyptus within a day and have a fresh canvas to start painting. Project Kamp takes all season to remove just a small batch...

  • @worksmith5223
    @worksmith5223 3 місяці тому +5

    As.an Australian I find this project fascinating good luck

  • @maggietaylor9713
    @maggietaylor9713 2 місяці тому +2

    Fabulous job. Portugal should not have eucs but you are working with what you have. I applaud you all. ❤

  • @matthewdavies5875
    @matthewdavies5875 3 місяці тому +16

    I can't wait to see the transformation on this land and look at scaling it up throughout the Mira Basin. Great work, Teresa!

  • @greeenjeeens
    @greeenjeeens 2 місяці тому +4

    Please if you ever can, please try a project in Andalucia, every river and small stream is filled with eucalypts, meanwhile dams are at record lows. There is no law to force landowners to remove eucalypts from rivers as there is South Africa, Europe is behind on the legislation front.
    I appreciate fire risk is a bigger concern, there are active groups in Galicia removing eucalypts.
    I really wish you success in this project and that you can demonstrate it's effectiveness and persuade both the Portuguese and Spanish councils to take action.. 🙏

  • @TJC807
    @TJC807 3 місяці тому +4

    Well done. Finding a Timber company with ecological sensitivity is going to be tough. We are involved in a similar project in South Africa, same invader species, and found that some areas can be done by Timber companies, but best done by hand where trees can be felled more precisely to avoid damage to emergant indigenous vegetation. Good luck !

    • @lorrainegatanianhits8331
      @lorrainegatanianhits8331 2 місяці тому

      Let go of that destructive, xenophobic dogma that there is such a thing as native and non-native.

    • @pianoman47
      @pianoman47 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@lorrainegatanianhits8331 If we were talking about people and immigration, I would agree with you. Kind of different when we're talking about plants.

  • @rate8818
    @rate8818 3 місяці тому +9

    Lovely young women in the vlog. I love it that you become more active in Portugal, fantastic!

  • @chantalnysingh5418
    @chantalnysingh5418 3 місяці тому +14

    I have always wondered why there were such big eucalyptus plantations in Portugal, because it seems such a huge fire risk. So super stoked that you are adressing this. Looking forward to follow this project. Great work!

    • @jamesmcdonnell5617
      @jamesmcdonnell5617 3 місяці тому

      Thinking the same thing! Why were Eucalyptus planted in Portugal! I believe they are native to Australia. Very heavy with natural oils, like Tea Tree. The State of California (USA) is just chokka with Eucalyptus. Crazy.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому +2

      For one they give plenty of money to people who generally don't have a lot. They also grow really fast after fires, so more fires essentially means more eucalypts

    • @CitizenAyellowblue
      @CitizenAyellowblue 3 місяці тому +4

      There was an intention to make Portugal a major pulp and timber supplier for Europe. Various eucalyptus species were (too) well suited to the climate. Since they are fast growing, they seemed suitable. It wasn't so simple.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому

      @@CitizenAyellowblue I mean, at least Portugal did become a major paper producer in europe I guess...

    • @lorrainegatanianhits8331
      @lorrainegatanianhits8331 2 місяці тому

      Eucalypts are not an increased fire risk. That is just a huge misconception.
      www.econ.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/ENGLANDER_Lila_Spring%202021.pdf

  • @PedroReisR
    @PedroReisR Місяць тому +1

    Don't worry about the damage that eucalyptus trees may do to native plants as they fall. Of course, a direction of fall with fewer plants should be preferred, but any damage that may occur will regenerate quickly. I did something like this on a piece of land I have in the Mafra area and the eucalyptus trees were much thicker. The most laborious part was cutting branches and trunks so that everything was in good contact with the soil, with the thick material underneath and progressively finer material on top. After three or four years everything starts to decompose and a thick layer of black soil forms. Every year it is necessary to cut back the shoots, which are becoming less and less vigorous, until they wither completely.

  • @joaquimbarbosa896
    @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому +2

    LETS GOOOO, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS (I even do a small project of my own)

  • @ZiontheMagnificent
    @ZiontheMagnificent 28 днів тому

    Awesome! We have Eucalyptus in California as an invasive species too, wrecks the land

  • @BytebroUK
    @BytebroUK 3 місяці тому +4

    I love this woman's honesty about basically "yeah, we'll have a look and see if the intervention has helped or not".

  • @MrTidjon
    @MrTidjon Місяць тому

    Boa sorte com as acácias.... se bem me lembro de uma visita de estudo da disciplina de gestão de habitats, em '94, às dunas de S. Jacinto, eles estavam com quase nenhum sucesso na remoção das acácias. Essa é uma zona bonita. Muitas horas com putos de Bonellis nessa altura, muito eucalipto escalado (e por aí havia tb um casal em rocha)... bons tempos 🙂 Força aí!

  • @felixmussik7203
    @felixmussik7203 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the update and the amazing plan :)

  • @JdeB-h2o
    @JdeB-h2o 2 місяці тому +1

    Shared on Mastodon ClimateJustice by JdeB

  • @QuintaLimaPortugal
    @QuintaLimaPortugal 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting project! Looking forward to more (vlog) updates about this project! I hope I can incorporate some of your ideas when we are starting our own rewilding project for our eucalyptus forest.
    One small vlogging tip: try not to say "um" 😅. Other than that, great vlog, keep it up👍🤗

  • @sarantissporidis391
    @sarantissporidis391 3 місяці тому +4

    I can't decide what was more beautiful, the lady or her accent...

  • @theghostnextdoor4948
    @theghostnextdoor4948 17 днів тому

    I live in central California, and the climate is much like it is in Portugal, and much like there, we also have a problem with large amounts of imported eucalyptus trees that were planted here. I wish I could do something about that here but I have no idea where I could even start.

  • @joaquimbarbosa896
    @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому +3

    Restoring forests is defenitly crucial for Portugal's future

  • @mediagreenhouse45
    @mediagreenhouse45 3 місяці тому

    Hi! I love it! I am in central PT myself, on a riverside plot, old agri land with olives and jus started planting fruits and nuts... would love some insights/help what to do here... I could come and help you in fall/winter down south as well; will bring my battery chainsaw with veggie oils for chainlube then too :)

  • @Greenmahn333
    @Greenmahn333 7 днів тому

    👍

  • @Atimatimukti
    @Atimatimukti 3 місяці тому

    Parabéns e boa sorte! Not easy to kill eukaliptos and acacias. For the acacias, use the method from the Marchante sisters, it seems its the only one that works

  • @JumpingSpider37
    @JumpingSpider37 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ve heard that eucalyptus can push out lots of other native species due to their aggressive growth and ability to change the chemical composition of the soil. Sounds like that might not be the case as much here? Just curious how difficult it will be to remove eucalyptus here in this context. Great stuff as always!

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому +1

      From my personal experience, almost impossible. If you cut all of them, new saplings grow a lot faster then native trees, you would need to plant native trees, cut the eucalypts and then each year kill or cut their saplings in order for native trees to grow. Good news is once they grow eucalypts can hardly grow back

    • @CitizenAyellowblue
      @CitizenAyellowblue 3 місяці тому +2

      Australian here- yes you are correct. Eucalyptus species have an enormous impact on soil structure, chemistry and the impact on local native species.

    • @CitizenAyellowblue
      @CitizenAyellowblue 3 місяці тому +2

      @@joaquimbarbosa896 You have to use stem injection with herbicide to achieve this. I know, it's not nice, but nothing else will work. Just cutting the eucalyptus will result in coppice growth that creates impenetrable thickets. I know this, as I do forest restoration work in Australia and am very familiar with eucalyptus. Would you believe it? There are so many species of eucalyptus in Australia that even in Australia there are species that, when taken to new locations in Australia can become invasive and destructive.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CitizenAyellowblue Now thats news for me. But shade also seems to work, at least here in Portugal. Eucalylts have a very hard time growing in areas with decades old oaks

    • @lorrainegatanianhits8331
      @lorrainegatanianhits8331 2 місяці тому

      ​@@CitizenAyellowbluexenophobe.

  • @SWRural-fk2ub
    @SWRural-fk2ub 3 місяці тому +3

    I expect they sent her in to negotiate with the landowner!

  • @skullandbones1832
    @skullandbones1832 2 місяці тому

    💚

  • @joaquimbarbosa896
    @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому

    From my experience one of the best ways to fight eucalypts as well as other species like mimosa, is shade. By that I mean that there needs to be a huge growth in native species, like oaks, wich will eventually create shade making the conditions for eucalypts not ideal. For that to happen one would have to cut them, plant native trees and then keep killing the eucalypt saplings that will inevitably remain there for years

    • @rvieira8057
      @rvieira8057 3 місяці тому +1

      I heard the same about shade. Still, it is very difficult and labour-intensive to erradicate the saplings.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому

      @@rvieira8057 Indeed, maybe a Miyasaki forest could help I guess. There is also the aspect of native wildlife like squerrels that if they rejoin the area they will surely help spread more native species and will also eat some saplings. So that could be of help

    • @rvieira8057
      @rvieira8057 3 місяці тому

      @@joaquimbarbosa896 Yes! I also thought about native wildlife return, but are you sure squirrels and other indigeneous animals can eat eucalyptus saplings? I do hope so.

  • @christophhanke6627
    @christophhanke6627 3 місяці тому +4

    general question: How did these eucalyptus trees actually got there? I know some med-cities plant them in parks, did they "escape" from there?
    Does the local wildlife actually incorporate these trees since they are to some extant poisonous or do they just kinda get ignored by everything?^^

    • @martimcarrasquinho4552
      @martimcarrasquinho4552 3 місяці тому +14

      They were introduced for logging for the production of cheap paper. They push out native species because of their toxicity, water consumption and quick recovery rates

    • @christophhanke6627
      @christophhanke6627 3 місяці тому +6

      @@martimcarrasquinho4552 ah okay thank you. This is similar to the introduction of pines and spruces in germany

    • @DB-pm2vy
      @DB-pm2vy 3 місяці тому +2

      @@christophhanke6627They’re in Madeira too. Same problem introduced for paper making. Now huge fire risk and crowding out native flaura and fauna

    • @gutemorcheln6134
      @gutemorcheln6134 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@christophhanke6627Except pine and spruce are at least native to Germany, which is not the case with eucalyptus in Portugal.

    • @christophhanke6627
      @christophhanke6627 3 місяці тому

      @@gutemorcheln6134 are they native everywhere in germany? Because if not, which I feel like may be true for the northern states, then they would be introduced there right?

  • @joaquimbarbosa896
    @joaquimbarbosa896 3 місяці тому

    You can talk with local herders and ask them to eat some invasive saplings

    • @CitizenAyellowblue
      @CitizenAyellowblue 3 місяці тому

      They are not good fodder, in fact eucalyptus oil is toxic.

  • @Extremealgarve1
    @Extremealgarve1 3 місяці тому +1

    I spent 4 years and thousands of euros on how to reforest eucalyptus plantations in Monchique. In the end it was so simple. I offered my solution to various associations and people but there was no interest as photos could not be taken and shown in the media of people planting trees.

    • @rvieira8057
      @rvieira8057 3 місяці тому +1

      Incredible! The Monchique area has a most serious eucalyptus issue. I drove through those hills just two days ago and was appalled by the density of eucalyptus growth there, especially on the strech of road between Monchique to Odemira. As one gets closer to Odemira and the topography becomes flatter, cork and olive trees became the norm.

    • @acephalica
      @acephalica 3 місяці тому

      Can you share some of the basic solutions with us?

    • @Extremealgarve1
      @Extremealgarve1 3 місяці тому +4

      @@acephalica I did a POWERPOINT but its extremely simple. Choose the seeds you want ie acorns, nitrogen fixers, green manure support species (this requires a different mindset of what one believe are "invasive" and "indigenous" species) also remembering that quite often we require support species to PLAY THEIR ROLE before they are removed from the system (if necessary) spread your seeds in early autumn beneath the eucalyptus forest. Cut down the eucalyptus. If you are lucky the first harvest can be sold or used as fire wood. Leave all extra matérial on the ground as a mulch to protect the seedlings that will appear in spring. The following autumn once again cut the eucalyptus (at this stage only a metre or so high) and leave the material on the ground once again providing shade and nutrients for the growing seedlings. Remember its a MANAGED system so any nitrogen fixing species that are regarded by academics who know very little about nature can always be removed or are thmeslevs removed naturally anyway. You will find in no time the eucalyptus wu+ill be overshadowed (and not grow back) and in many cases when pruned at the right time will not grow back anyway. Remember its work. Not machines, not chemicals, black plastic, fires etc etc. Its managed by you and some cutters or at worst a small chainsaw. Ernst Gotsch himself gave this idea the thumbs up when i met him in Spain some years back. Happy reforesting.

    • @acephalica
      @acephalica 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Extremealgarve1 thanks for sharing. i'm already kind of doing that. It just don't feel right to cut all eucaliptus stands at the same time but progressevly thining them according to the growing of thr other species close-by.

    • @Extremealgarve1
      @Extremealgarve1 2 місяці тому +1

      @@acephalica agreed. with my 2 hectares of ecualyptus its not possible to cut it all at once on my own.

  • @gardenersgraziers7261
    @gardenersgraziers7261 3 місяці тому

    You actually need cattle to trample down undergrowth - best low cost kickstarter if you have fencing???

  • @simonpannett8810
    @simonpannett8810 3 місяці тому +2

    I guess with Climate Change there is always now the risk of fire, especially in valleys! So with low brush thriving once Eucalyptus monoculture is cut down are you not afraid of the Fire risk and damage to corks? Are you supporting Medronho trees as well?

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 3 місяці тому +1

      Eucalyptus trees secrete volatile aerosol oils, and the fallen leaves are very flammable, so it's a chance both ways

    • @simonpannett8810
      @simonpannett8810 3 місяці тому

      @@williamchamberlain2263 Yes, I guess the real problem is Human habitation as the plants are quite used to fires and recovery there?

  • @FoodwaysDistribution
    @FoodwaysDistribution 3 місяці тому +2

    Usually nothing grows under a eucalyptus tree....

    • @gardenersgraziers7261
      @gardenersgraziers7261 3 місяці тому

      not true - lots of undergrowth is clearly visible here

    • @FoodwaysDistribution
      @FoodwaysDistribution 3 місяці тому +2

      @@gardenersgraziers7261 As i said USUALLY, unless you have them on your land you shouldnt leave such cretinous comment:
      Eucalyptus produce compounds that will inhibit or stop the growth of nearby plants to better compete for nutrients, sunlight, and other resources. This phenomenon is known as allelopathy. Eucalyptus is a well known examples of this.
      Almost nothing grows under mines.

    • @lorrainegatanianhits8331
      @lorrainegatanianhits8331 2 місяці тому

      Wrong. Eucalypts create great conditions for growth of understory herbs and shrubs.

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 Місяць тому

      @@lorrainegatanianhits8331 Yes but that is for Australia not Portugal. It boggles my mind that people let them spread, they need to go or have a permanent management plan.

  • @DanieHattingh
    @DanieHattingh Місяць тому

    It's going to be a continuous slog to keep removing the eucalyptus. They are tough, fast growing, prolific seeding.

  • @steffwo
    @steffwo 3 місяці тому +1

    It would be interesting, not to restore the forest to a normal Portuguese forest, only, but to go beyond and experiment with other, new species, which could fit the latitude and climate.
    Also, it would be worth to look into the antique history of forests in Portugal, and learn, what species have lived there, 2000 years ago, and bring them back, nowadays.

  • @thebeautifulones5436
    @thebeautifulones5436 2 місяці тому

    You need to introduce something that eats the eucalyptus to control it. Portugal needs Koalas!

  • @WildAnimalBehaviour
    @WildAnimalBehaviour 2 місяці тому

    Watch in to the camera not to the screem

  • @gardenersgraziers7261
    @gardenersgraziers7261 3 місяці тому

    WHY do you need Drone Mapping when you can walk all over the land which is actually better than a Map + Why do you need sound recordings ??? ++ How will you adapt - what does this mean ??? +++ What is your plan of action for fire ??? How will control the undergrowth which is the main fire risk ???

  • @Cool_Goose
    @Cool_Goose 3 місяці тому +5

    I don't mind the idea of a VLOG format, but please also take a normal panoramic view also when explaining things (there were a really few short panoramic takes, but compared to the rest it was insignificant).