DIY GREENHOUSE for Under $300 - "GroDome" - built by an inventor Dr. Norman Petty
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2019
- Dr. Petty - "I want to thank Barry for making this video, but I misspoke twice in the video. The greenhouse lumber was $284, not $200. The greenhouse polyethylene was $111, not $50. So the $300 estimate should really be $400. Automatic vent openers are $35 each if needed." Dr. Petty's Optimum Wisdom Laboratories: optimumwisdomlabs.weebly.com/
Paul Robinson UA-cam Channel for Geodesic Dome Build: / @geo-dome - Фільми й анімація
*After watching a video extolling the benefits of a $50,000 +++ 1375 sq ft greenhouse dome, it was a refreshing breather to watch this cost savings approach to Dome growing!*
Ever Heard of this married couple from oversees, colder climated area,, who incased their Home inside this Greenhouse type of building? Saying it helped a lot with the heating and enjoying being in it on much colder days. Topped with whatever type of homemade solar panels or regular. They looked like they were were living in an enchanting themed storybook archatechtual design.🤗
Yes. Norway -finland. They built the house inside a large geodesic green house
@@kkarllwt do you have a link to this site would love to see it. Thanks
@Ben Okay Thank You
@@greathustle01 Thank You
Yes I've totally heard of them I loved the place your right it looked so fairytale just beautiful. I hope to have my own property soon and I'm looking into having many of these greenhouses I'm going to need study designs tho as I'm way up in the snow.
WOW...I can't believe how mean all these people are on these comments. I love this. Thank you for the video.
They most likely got the mRNA jab and are no longer human.
i dont see any negative comments
@@sandraunterthiner9763 ✨antivaxxer✨
@@jonah9916 GMO human.
@@jonah9916that vaccine was terrible and unnecessary, and shouldn't have been forced on anyone! A healthy society NEEDS strong people to resist that kind of human rights violation!
I love her gardening comments!!! And his approach is gold! Best video I have seen on UA-cam in years. This is what UA-cam is for!
On UA-cam, there' s a person in Nebraska who made a greenhouse by excavating a south facing berm...in winter, it is the south side of a greenhouse in northern latitudes that works...he grows citrus.
Here ya go ua-cam.com/video/ZD_3_gsgsnk/v-deo.html
Nuts! I saw his place! I live 4 hrs from the guy. Amazing
I have ordered a greenhouse from Russ (Finch). His design is the best I've seen, and I've been researching them for a while.
@spikedpsycho No they did not. Why do you lie when it's so easily proved? They may have greenhouses with a north facing berm, but they did NOT use geothermal heating and fans.
@spikedpsycho Thanks for proving me 100% correct. You ARE a liar. Nothing in there was geothermal. You're not real bright, are ya?
Super impressive ! Especially the actuators that automatically open the venting panels ! Wow !
God blessem ! Good food grown at HOME year round !!
Can't beat that !
Wulfy
Wulf Claw they are cool, but have been standard equipment on greenhouses for decades now.
This is so Awesome. Thanks for sharing this with me. 💖 from Texas
Great build. I'll keep something like this in mind for the day I decide to build a greenhouse / hoop house!
I built this dome and it's great! The instructions are over 60 pages and quite clear. It takes a minute to sort things out if you haven't done it before, but it's definitely doable. I would highly recommend that you have an impact driver (you will be driving LOTS of screws), a decent table saw (you will have to rip every 2x4 on a bevel), and, unless you want to use a hand saw, a compound angle chop saw (to trim each end of the triangles - a cut that you will have to make almost 300 times). I borrowed the chop saw, and by luck it turned out to be a good DeWalt one that had a very wide angle it could reach, which was very helpful.
yeah the tools definitely cost more than the parts. hahahaha. It's a beautiful structure but I think a geodesic can be built a lot cheaper with those EMT connections.
I am so happy I came across your channel. I love this information thanks.👍👍👍
When I was sixteen, Buckminster Fuller came to my school and did a presentation. I was transfixed by this small man with an amazing mind. His ideas were fabulous and practical. Some of the students built a geodesic dome on the quad. I’d love this greenhouse. Just lovely.
great video! maybe solar vent fans would keep the spinach from bolting? love the variety of greens and veggies the Pettys are growing!
Thank you for your work- look forward to more of your videos :)
Great Geodesic Dome!
Wow, awesome greenhouse! I really like the look and it's so much more unique and beautiful than the "normal" greenhouse. The "Geodätische Kuppel" was invented by Walther Bauersfeld in 1926. Cool to see, that it can be rebuilt "that easily" also by private people. Thumbs up!
It also stands up to strong winds the air just rolls over the surface
@@andreaadams8074 Yeah I realized that benefit too. :).
Wow this is actually amazing thank you for posting 🙏🏻
Inspiring! Thank you
Thank you for sharing this knowledge
❗ wow ❗ they r a great team. I loved this video. I learned so much!!!
Nice content...but..half way in i felt like I was on a mussel relaxer. Toward the end I just went with it. Lol
Cool design. And, she is so happy with the veggies.
OH I WANT ONE OF THOSE.
This is fantastic....
This is a great video!
:) thank you
These people are awesome!
Sweet i want one in my yard
In 4-5 years I plan on moving someplace and going as far off grid as possible. Watching videos like this, ones on solar power, and solar thermal, are an education. I'm wondering, if an underground radiant heating addition wouldn't be something that could extend growing even further. I would think it would just be a matter of scaling up my thermal battery ideas.
this is awesome-I am gonna get this plan and do this! Thanks for sharing this!
your welcome. :) I plan to do this too
@@extremebudget
The main issue with using the panel method is making it leakproof. The most common solution involves applying tape over the joints and replacing it annually. To replacing the poly involves dismantling at least part of the dome so you can gain access to the staples. Removing a gazillion rusty staples wont be much fun so try to use as few as possible. Something that is rarely mentioned is the condensation from the poly will accumulate on the horizontal frame members. This can cause the timber to rot prematurely, especially at the vertices where the end grain is exposed. A telltale sign of standing water is a line of algae growth on the inside of the poly along the top of a horizontal strut. In an extreme case, the strut will ebentually be covered in black mold. Dont be tempted to use bleach or anything containing chlorine to fix these issues as it will degrade the greenhouse poly.
@@extremebudget Could you get in touch with me regarding the copyright infringement with this product, I have emailed Mr petty and he appears to accept that this infringes one of my dome designs. You can see other commenters noting that it's one of my designs.
LOL... People still trying to make money off 3D graphics and "designs"... Better lawyer up! Even patents and trademarks aren't magic money vacuums... Maybe Buckminster Fuller's estate or the designers before him should sue all of us copycats...
Excellent!
Great Vid!
Amazing!!
In the 70's I built one similar 26ft diameter w/photovoltaic powered hydroponic system/growing w/sea-solids...one morning I went out to tend to the garden...the dome apparently became airborne during an evening storm lifted off the hydroponics system moved across the yard...not a bit of structural damaged nor w/the hydroponic system......they say it acts like an airplane wing lifting the weight..so it needed anchored down.
I guess wood is more eco friendly, but that looks like a lot more work than using pipe. Those auto vent actuators are pretty cool.
So that looks like what we called the Sun Dome method. No hubs. Individual triangles built and stacked to build. Simple and strong.
simple and strong but prone to leak at the joints.
A little solar fan or two might circulate the air if needed.
This is cool and cheap.
HE never said he invented it, he even explains that... JEES! Get over it, if you didn't watch the video, don't comment like you did...
This is great! I built one of these too. You can cut triangles out of Styrofoam and insulate your dome for the winter. I plan on growing a Chicago hardy fig tree and seeing how long I can keep the leaves on in the fall
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I somehow forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Kolton Santana Instablaster :)
@Isaiah Preston I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Isaiah Preston it worked and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thank you so much you really help me out :D
@Kolton Santana glad I could help =)
Wild bunch.
Put the climbing stuff on the north side of the dome😀
I loved the idea, construction technique and design. One suggestion though; the music is to loud and over rides the speaker.
i want to do this!
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Thanks for sharing. I encourage you to check out the videos of my geodesic dome design. Three years ago I created an all-ages dome design that is definitely cheap and and can definitely be used by anyone. I'm going to be experimenting with aircrete too! Cheers.
the soil is sitting on top of 16 tons of crushed rock. It cants contact the native soil and gain soil biome (including worms) from beneath.
Is that a bad thing
@@rosalynduncan8778 of you have contact you can, with the help of worms and all the other critters, build top soil multiple feet deep, please see the Garden of Eden gardening method. Life feet-deep instead of the commonly accepted 6 inches down
@@rosalynduncan8778 on the plus side all that gravel is super drainage if drainage is what you need. In the Southwest where I live lots of places and stuff and Sandy, too much drainage.
you can mix in compost and worms to help with that.
@@ancapftw9113 yes. Belated improvement. Why did he put all That crushed rock again?
Wow, Gro-Dome of Dr. Norman Petty, Scientist & Inventor with website: "Optimum Wisdom Laboratories"
HERE IS ANOTHER IDEA: I love it except that it must be really complicated with so many pieces. Instead, how about an icosahedron (missing its bottom so it sits flat) it would have 10 triangle walls and 5 triangle ceilings. each side could be about two meters if you want to stand or 3 or 4 meters if you want to luxuriate. It would be halfway between a geodesic dome and a yurt.
If you want something relatively simple, structurally stable and very strong, there are a few options. Here`s a 5ft diameter geodesic i use as large plant cloches. They can be scaled up to almost any size..
ua-cam.com/video/kJteHbJV5eM/v-deo.html
@@JohnGuest45 says the vid is private
It's not complicated at all. I built it with a couple guys - to speed things up, a few extra sets of hands is good, because you have to repeat the steps a bunch of times. It requires 2 triangles on your template and from there you build 30 triangles for the pentagons, and 69 for the hexagons. All 2x4s are ripped at the same bevel. You do make a couple small triangles for the door, and doors are always a bit tricky, but this project is approachable and not "really complicated." Also, the pentagons and hexagons are quite easy to handle. I would not want to try and put a 6' triangle up in dome roof section without scaffolding. The GroDome does *not* require scaffolding to safely stand up, though you'll want some extra hands.
When he says anybody can build it...dome construction is fairly exacting and the construction is complex, definitely not something everyone could do. He's done a great job on it. Love those auto opening vents.
Actually it's very simple. All he did was make a bunch of triangles.
@@brianwilson9501 take another look at the triangles and how they are arranged, how their size and shape vary to make it a dome.
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I enjoyed this video and it is not the only video I have seen on geodesic domes, nor is it the best video out there but it provides some more info when you are trying to get as much as possible on something. not sure why so many here are taking this so seriously.
I am thinking on building one myself. I like how easy the pvc ones can built but I have not seen any nice way to cover them other than loose plastic cover. On the other hand this method of using wood is harder to build but it provides a way to cover it in a clean way.
Can anyone here post some product links on 6ml multilayer greenhouse polyethylene cover, paint, stain. what kind of wood is best to use? what kind of cut is worth using? 2x4?, 2x3?,2x2?... how thick should he struts be?
Is there a better way to cover the joint other than taping them over. is silicon worth to use? that might make it hard to remove if needed to replace a damaged plastic cover.
Also deer is mentioned as a potential risk of entry into the dome. how about racoons, skanks and squirrels? would they try to get in? if they do, what do you do to protect against them?
Has anyone tried to use hard poly for cover? I guess that would pose challenges with leaking. I am sure there are folks out there that would have found a way.
Hub and strut method is the better for a poly covered dome, easier to seal and/or replace the covering. The panel method is better for rigid glazing, sealing is tricky.
inventor WOOOAW
wonder where can you find the passive vent actuator device... very inspiring, getting out my tape measure and scratching my chin
Google/Amazon
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Where did you get the poly skin and the vents?Thanks Dan.
DOOOD!!
Brooooo
we are here watching this video because of the title of the video/ because of the dome structure itself. we don't care about the plants tge plants info. is interesting but we want to know about the dome structure itself / how we could make same ourselves.
exactly.
if your not interested in plants you dont need a greenhouse ;) Building a dome is easy, covering it and making it watertight is the tricky part. Panel domes, like the one in the vid, are notoriously difficult to seal..
As long as everyone in the world invented the geodesic dome..... uh, I also invented the geodesic dome!
Three issues - 1) Deer can be stopped by 3 wires at a 45 degree angle.--- a fence of posts and vector wood for the wire. but for this..dome.chicken wire is ok.- for bears you need a welded rebar fence..or shock wire perhaps.. mostly bears want berries or just to make a mess playing ...any compost with open scents of what attracts animals is important to manage....
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As for the $300 dome cost --- to be more realistic - a cost sheet is needed with each item listed and a cost for bought materials -- new -- used - found materials - junk laying around - Add site work and stone aggregate foundation delivered - site work, tools used...add labor costs and labor hours. As you can imagine the cost could be much more or even less if you scrounge and get free labor...
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Thanks---some good info for all in this laid back video.
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3) DIET
Although fresh greens are very important...people kill themselves with salad oils - seed oils from a bottle and fried food and meats eggs dairy - toxic fish ---all toxic to the brain and organs.
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The Paleo diet is not the best diet with many things lacking or added causing ill health. Its based on a false history of ancient prehistory humans...lots of guessing and hypothesis BS.
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Even among the ancients were much smarter ones who actually ate better than other contemporaries of their day. remember we are talking in 20K to 100k year slices of traditions passed down...and then forgotten over and over....until today.
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Look at who lives the longest today...blue zones for example and know that the social setting is also critical for human health. Consumption of animal products for survival is one thing in extreme settings...but in a modern world we have far better natural whole food plant based choices which for your individual health and problems you can adjust and learn about.
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One thing we know for sure is MEN MAKE MISTAKES. & MEN MAKE STUFF UP. Lots of research is what we can do to find a path best for us.
Be well
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For your root vegetables in a structure like this, you should consider using barrels instead of these ground containers.
Why's that?
@@lisakukla459 Sweet potatoes need a loose soil. You have a great deal more control over the content of the soil and water them. They are easier to harvest. Just tip the barrel over and take them out of the pile. You don't need a frame. Putting a barrel on its side is a great way for rooting things like carrots,parsnips, etc. in a green house. Simple to tip them out and harvest them. It also helps to keep out things like moles. A great deal of green or blue plastic barrels are available very cheaply and clean usually. I have a stacking tray of them on the sides of my greenhouse. The selected sides of the barrels fit well on the curves like your trapezoids. It is a kind of dome done with metal poles. Gives you more production space. I have one solid wood pole in the center to support the frame. And a flexible wood rail around the inside.
@@michaelbagley9116 Oh, I see. Yeah, that makes sense. I grow potatoes in coffee sacks with soil that I mixed myself. You're right; Harvesting is super easy. I just dump it out on a tarp, and putting the soil back in is a cinch, with very minimal loss.
I built a trellis designed to shade out some west-facing windows of my house, and I plan to plant sweet potatoes, luffa and beans. I'll make sure the soil mix is extra loose now.
Great concept. Two questions:
1 - The uv coated film, where do you purchase it? or do you spray the heck out of it with uv spray?
2 - Where can I find more details about the heat opening vents? Any videos that could show the concept?
I'm not sure on both those things. I haven't built this yet. I think he said the UV film stuff should be at any home improvement store. The vent openers you would probably have to order online. I put a link to his website in the description. You could probably find that info there.
Amazon sells the vent openers. The info is in the guide sold by Dr. Petty. I don't know about UV film - I'm not using mine as a greenhouse.
BUT, Johnny Bayles (Trillium Domes), says in one of his videos that he has a good connection for ordering large quantities of polycarbonate. You might check his stuff out.
Would be nice if the name of the plastic sheeting or a link to it were here. Plans followed to build the greenhouse if available also.
What do you do with plants that need fertilisation?
looks like one of Paul Robinson's designs
Yes he has scraped content from my website and others to put a PDF together and is selling it for $29. Well spotted
Paul didnt invent this, these designs have been around for many decades, well before the internet.
@@JohnGuest45 Paul did invent this particular method on construction by overlapping the struts to make the hub connection. That's the key difference in this design and it's sexy AF.
@@pertinentparadigm1337
I suggest you do some research. Bevelled frame domes are not new, Gerry Toomey and others were using it decades ago. The difference was their domes were less prone to leak at the joints because they used the correct bevel angles instead of simplifying it to a single universal angle. The single angle makes the cutting easier but it also compromises the geometry because errors, accidental or deliberate. are cumulative.
@@JohnGuest45 Didn't know that, thanks for the info.
Is it easy to replace the plastic for a panel? Does it leak between the panels?
Nice - what is the largest dome that can be built with this system ?
He spent $1000 in gravel alone, screws $150 to $200, wood free to $200, plastic,door hinges. Add that up, thats less than $300
I think you meant it's MORE than $300. Way more. Well over $1000 for a small greenhouse you cannot use in the winter. Not a good deal.
Electric fence for deer
So what is the difference between square and hex shaped greenhouses? Just structural integrity?
I wonder if the ones we are seeing Selling for$10-42000 took his design?
I would really love to build one of these. Did you happen to get any plans on how to build one?
@Pathseeker wow thank you very much for the detailed response. I totally will use this advice. And for your experience in your build.
Do you recommend that I get a kit? And just add the inside layer. I read about metal kits for purchase.
where do you get the vent mechanisms?
Legal to live in in your area? Other companies make domes for multi-use and know how to add utilities...
I wonder if a fig tree would like this lil biodome
@futon Great idea! A tree in the middle would be great... The bees can get in at the top to pollinate the tree...
There are people who have surrounded their houses with these. Saving fuel and weatherproofing the main residence while creating accessible garden and year round outdoor space. However NOT cheap initially
Yes but the payoff is invaluable
Any idea what those mechanical vent openers are called or where they might be found?
@Dorian Gray Thank you!
Seems like there’s potential for a lot of leaking/dripping by covering individual pentagons and hexagons.
This method relies on poly repair tape over the joints to make it watertight,, at least for a while anyway ;) Another drawback is you have to dismantle the dome to replace the cover. Removing all the old staples will be a tedious job.
on my real dome channel
editing is your friend in waiting
what a cute couple.
the soil doesn't look right - is there a good worm population?
can someone please explain me how exactly the mechanic dome air vent really work ? super cool.
It is basically like a miniature hydraulic cylinder arm. The oil inside expands or contracts when temps change. You can adjust that pressure with a small adjustment knob on the cylinder.
Just an FYI... The high pitched music in the background and your deep base voice make it so I can't make out a word you are saying. I'm sure I'm not the only product of the 60's who listened to loud Rock and Roll and lost some ability to hear base and still have the ability to hear the high notes.
So.... Use subtitles?
Where the hell did he find high quality plastic for $40/$50
Check the description
The cilantro will take over if you let it go to seed
ann been drinking from the fountian of youth
Could you please get how to build while they are doing it?
Paraffin hinges
What is the website. I want to buy the manual.
why so far from the house?
Jaw dropped when he said 17 tons of gravel because that's a hell of a lot for a structure of that size which looked to be on a sloped location meaning it wouldn't be needed for drainage.
makes me wonder how much the gravel cost.....
He was using it to level out the build location. The soil was too rocky to dig down easily.
You can also do it without gravel... Just dig a flat spot into the hillside and do a cheap retaining wall on the high side...
Zip tie domes
He is selling content scraped from geo-dome website, his product name infringes shelter systems grodome trade mark, he has taken pictures from the internet for his PDF. This product is basically a pirated copy of my GD18 geodesic dome.
Paul created the geodesic dome you know, stop stealing his ideas! He has a patent on those ideas, and your not cool for stealing it. So stop it already, Paul invented the geodesic dome and you know it!!
@@oneministries4878 Wow, Paul looks pretty good for a man well over two hundred and twenty years old. The Geodesic dome was first seen in 1818. The guy who made the video is not very bright and the good dr. Normy has stolen pictures from other peoples sites, but the math for geodesic domes is the same, no matter who builds it, so they will always look the same..., unless are smart and use Paul's Wanger Flanges.
Kelly Scott, I will be sure to lay on the sarcasm a little thicker next time. I thought it was pretty obvious that I was joking, for the very reason you pointed out.
@@calhoun1968
Smart folks dont need wanger flanges to build a dome. Smart folks also know the dome in this vid would require 660 wanger flanges. Not a viable option if they cost a dollar each.
open source EVERYTHING
Why does anyone that bills a dome use glass glazing does anyone know never seen it?
the wood frame looks like it has mould growing on it, the paint is going to peel off and the wood will rot. would be better to build from metal tubing
You have to consider how you will attach a cover and make it watertight.
It could be a treated wood-the green colour.
@@damienomen68
Nope, it`ll be algae. Condensation from the poly runs down onto the strut. It drips off the higher struts but tends to pool on the lower ones due to the strut angle. A lot of the water follows the strut to the vertex (hub) where it rots out the wood as thats where the endgrain is exposed.
@@damienomen68 no, its paint, I am a painter I know it when I see it. Best to use pressure treated wood if you have to use wood, or something that doesnt need protecting such as Cedar
The dome is awesome, I like your Chanel, but you need to get your interviews kinda scripted to have more control of the content... it was a bit too awkward at times for the people and we didn’t get much info on the inventor and his creations... :(
it was the awkwardest video ive seen for a long time, but the greenhouse is cool
I didn't mind it. It was pleasantly casual and friendly and I learned stuff.
thats good advice. I wanted to learn about how he constructed the dome. Learned a little about the 2 layers. of plastic and the base. Would have like to know more.
How do they water?
Sweet Guy. Lovely wife.
Where are the plans there's always these long videos but never simple "cut this many pieces at this angle" type instructions.
Thought I might learn something about building a small dome. Worthless video, nice people to take their time with you.
I just think if you thought it was a worthless video - maybe you didn't really spend time really listening and observing- I watched it a couple times and got more out of it the second time- cheers! It's not an instructional how to video in my opinion but there is good information and inspiration of value
Have you checked out the link below the vid which gives more details on geodome construction?
I think the rocks alone would cost more than $300