I'm only 1:40 into this video and I want to cry (with happiness). I've just got done looking at several other videos about axis rotation and it was all blah, blah, blah as if I knew what the hell they were talking about. But in just 1:40 you guys created the most perfect video with slow motion and side by side comparison shots. I don't have to know all the technique terminology to understand the point you are making. Thank you so much and keep up the good work. Have you guys graduated from teaching college for your real world jobs? It takes training to put on such a well put together presentation. Oh, oh, I just noticed at the 3:50 mark that your three throws of 45 degree, low and high axis rotation all looked the same as the ball left Jung's hand. I've seen that on other videos, too. One vid talks about releasing the ball like rolling a large soup can across the floor. But when he threw the bowling ball, his hand snapped up alongside the ball at release. Even on the still shot with all three throws side by side - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? They all look almost identical. Conflict, conflict, can't compute.
you guys are so generous as to share your knowledge to us bowling fans. Thanks a lot....and by the way Jungo your form is the definition of perfection!
Something I have personally noticed is that I couldn't get enough hook with the house balls when I used a higher axis rotation closer to 90°. I eventually noticed that when I hooked the ball practically parallel to the foul line, rotating towards the gutter, that it wouldn't actually have enough friction to grab and hook sharply enough when it got to the dryer boards, causing to only have a gradual hook and never really hitting the pocket quite right. I learned that (and remember, this is with the house balls, so nothing fancy) if I wanted the ball to grab and hook sharp enough to effectively hit the sweet spot, that I actually had to decrease my axis rotation to more of a 45°. This actually allowed the ball to grab one hook in more or less a 45° degree angle when it reached the dryer boards near the end, whereas before with the 90° there was no way the house had the ability to really grab and hook and so while the rotation would affect the path of the ball, it was never enough. So by lessening how sharp of an angle I threw it actually allowed for the ball to grab and hook when it needed to
Extremely useful knowledge and training tool. I have been having some issues derusting with my physical game and after watching this last night and practing this morning, I was able to immediately identify I was putting way too much rotation on my release. I dialed it back to what I'm normally used to which is about 45~ and wouldn't you know it, things started falling into place once more. Thanks for the knowledge guys. This is one of the better videos about this on the platform. Weird audio issues not withstanding. 😂
Now I understand why I was so successful on the shorter patterns in the PBA Experience league I bowled over 10 years ago. I have maybe 20 degrees of rotation with little to no tilt.
Yea my coach tells me all the time about creating tilt which is about making your pointer finger point directly down right before you release the ball, like how Chris Barnes or kris prather do it.
This is pretty much how I would show axis rotation excellent informative video. I also would like to add that there are some balls that are more responsive to hand positions than others too. I always try to use equipment that reads my hand position more. A good example for me anyway, is the Synergy. It very much follows and reacts accordingly to any amount of rotation I have at release. The upcoming axis tilt video is a perfect choice follow up.
I bowl with my pinky in the ball and it gives me a very good look, bowled my 1st 300 that way. I used the virtual energy. Pinky and ring finger for me, just gotta get used to the feel.
There was a guy in league who used to stay pretty much in the same spot on the lane and kept the same target. Just thinking about it, he must have just taken his hand out of the ball more and more as the night went on where I was moving left by 5 or 6 boards instead. It drove me crazy sometimes. Recently I tried to get lined up with the Tropical Surge ball and found it nearly impossible during warm up. So I didn't use it. Maybe all I needed to do is to go to a lower rotation and stay behind the ball more. Dunno... :) Great demos Jungo...
I think you kind of answered the question already, but just to be sure... Strictly urethane players should tend to stick with decreased axis rotation, yea? Urethane doesn't corner or make big moves down-lane, so trying to get it to seems counter-productive and that it would just burn up in the first 2/3 of the lane.
Correct, as when using urethane you're most likely playing a pretty straight line/ short oil pattern and therefore need the ball to hook very controllably and smooth
If you mean to check your axis rotation, you need to know your PAP. You can then put a piece of tape there, and you can also put another that goes from your PAP to above your finger holes.
Jung, I'm seeing the deep tiredness lines developing in your face. If you're not sleeping well anymore, go get a sleep study. I'm on a CPAP now and it changed my life and my bowling
If you are not very skilled with changing axis rotation, better stick to the one that comes most natural to you. You can adjust other things to get results, until you practice other releases. If you can use a different one, then depends also on what kind of house pattern you bowl on. You should try both and see. Generally if there is a lot of friction and short pattern, you should try for less.
@@jrproshop I think a video on this very topic would be amazing! I have 6 degrees of tilt (on the lower end) and track closer to the fingers, most of my equipment is pin up with larger drilling angles and smaller VAL ie. 65x5x35 For some reason these layouts seem to suit me but I don't really know why? I've recently drilled a Radical Results plus with the radical "most versatile" layout of 45x4x35 and it seems like this layout only suits me at certain houses. I know it's a complicated subject because you have lane friction to also consider, but your comment really made me think!
I love the video. I have a question. My release is weird according to the thing that shows your tilt, rotation, speed my tilt is 2 and rotation is 72 with a PAP of 5"x 31/32 up. What is the best way to drill balls to give me the best rotation.
Thanks for the video. Have been throwing 90 degrees , 2 handed, and hooks harder than this vid at the end. Have been increasing ball speed but will try changing axis angle now. Bowled 3 games over 200 last weekend, very good for me so not sure if I should. Also when I throw 0 degrees my ball has 0 hook. It’s a Columbia 300 messenger. Maybe the ball? Why doesn’t it hook?
Any tips for someone who wants to throw thumb in? It feels like when I try thumb in, I will either throw a straight ball or I’m going to straight up drop the ball. I do fine with 2 finger but really want to use my thumb as well.
@@jrproshop thanks for the reply! I figured that was a huge issue for me. Just ordered my first ball in the Hy Road last week and gonna get it drilled as soon as it gets here.
Thanks for this video! My shot is definitely the one with High Axis Rotation, it always abruptly hooks at the end of the lane, often too early and too sharp, sometimes missing the pins entirely! Looks like i need to get my hand behind the ball a little more.. Any other tips?
Thanks for the great video guys you always provide quality content and provide detailed explanations. By any chance will you be doing a roto grip gem vs. storm super nova comparison?
Wow! This series is damn useful and good. I'm struggling on what a good time to change my ball during lane transition. Axis rotation change is a good direction for me to promote my game actually. I would love to learn more about different rolling shapes down the lane the ball creates and the speed adjustment if we need it. Looking forward to more videos for the two-handed bowlers, love you guys.
I guess im randomly asking but does anyone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I was stupid lost the password. I love any help you can offer me!
@Jeremiah Jase I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm. Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Hey Travis! I was told by a smart man once that if you can throw 16 comfortably you should, more weight more hitting power, so I tried it and felt like I carried more hits than normal and won a couple tournaments right away and never looked back. As for the no grips it was a measure to stop me from squeezing, (can't squeeze with sharp holes) it worked and I liked the feel of no grips much better so stuck with it
Can someone please help and explain if coming around the ball is a bad thing or not? I was always taught that you shouold shake hands with the head pin and flick and rotate your wrist. But everywhere i'm looking everyone saying that is wrong? HELP ty
Hey JR Pro Shop, your old videos are getting messed up somehow. Starting at about 2:45 through the 6 minute mark, your whole segment is ruined by some loud music that got layered over everything.I've seen this on several of your older videos.
Its funny for him to have "zero" axis rotation when the ball still hooks a ton. I can throw zero axis and the ball is straight as an arrow. I wish I could hook the ball that much. If his shot had no axis rotation it would have went in the the right gutter. His no axis rotation hooks more than when I am trying to hook it.
@@jrproshop cool, quick question. I have like 5 degrees of tilt and 75-80 degrees of axis rotation. What types of balls should i use? I know solids, but are asyms or symmetricals better? I have 325 rev rate. 16.25 mph
All voice is now overtaken by loud music at around 2 min 47 sec. What happened? Would love to get the instruction given in this vid.
We dont have any voice audio after 2:45 it seems, hard cuts out with loud music.
The visuals are helpful but the voice track and music track on the video got switched half way in. Can you guys re-launch this?
I'm only 1:40 into this video and I want to cry (with happiness). I've just got done looking at several other videos about axis rotation and it was all blah, blah, blah as if I knew what the hell they were talking about. But in just 1:40 you guys created the most perfect video with slow motion and side by side comparison shots. I don't have to know all the technique terminology to understand the point you are making. Thank you so much and keep up the good work. Have you guys graduated from teaching college for your real world jobs? It takes training to put on such a well put together presentation. Oh, oh, I just noticed at the 3:50 mark that your three throws of 45 degree, low and high axis rotation all looked the same as the ball left Jung's hand. I've seen that on other videos, too. One vid talks about releasing the ball like rolling a large soup can across the floor. But when he threw the bowling ball, his hand snapped up alongside the ball at release. Even on the still shot with all three throws side by side - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? They all look almost identical. Conflict, conflict, can't compute.
Does music randomly start for anyone else? 2:47
Yes😂
Top quality information from the mates in Canada. 🤑
you guys are so generous as to share your knowledge to us bowling fans. Thanks a lot....and by the way Jungo your form is the definition of perfection!
Thanks Roy !!
videos like this is a huge reason why I love this channel
Something I have personally noticed is that I couldn't get enough hook with the house balls when I used a higher axis rotation closer to 90°.
I eventually noticed that when I hooked the ball practically parallel to the foul line, rotating towards the gutter, that it wouldn't actually have enough friction to grab and hook sharply enough when it got to the dryer boards, causing to only have a gradual hook and never really hitting the pocket quite right. I learned that (and remember, this is with the house balls, so nothing fancy) if I wanted the ball to grab and hook sharp enough to effectively hit the sweet spot, that I actually had to decrease my axis rotation to more of a 45°. This actually allowed the ball to grab one hook in more or less a 45° degree angle when it reached the dryer boards near the end, whereas before with the 90° there was no way the house had the ability to really grab and hook and so while the rotation would affect the path of the ball, it was never enough. So by lessening how sharp of an angle I threw it actually allowed for the ball to grab and hook when it needed to
Great demonstration, I'll have this and the next one on repeat until I get it right!
Extremely useful knowledge and training tool. I have been having some issues derusting with my physical game and after watching this last night and practing this morning, I was able to immediately identify I was putting way too much rotation on my release.
I dialed it back to what I'm normally used to which is about 45~ and wouldn't you know it, things started falling into place once more.
Thanks for the knowledge guys. This is one of the better videos about this on the platform. Weird audio issues not withstanding. 😂
Now I understand why I was so successful on the shorter patterns in the PBA Experience league I bowled over 10 years ago. I have maybe 20 degrees of rotation with little to no tilt.
You guys are aweasome... as a new two finger bowler its great info on pap n axis and all other information its helped my game extremely
Y'all's videos helped me bump up my averages from 170-190 up to between 205-230 across 10 games before and 10 after
Amazing !!
only a matter of time this channel will blow up
Best video on this ever produced!!! Thank you!!
Yea my coach tells me all the time about creating tilt which is about making your pointer finger point directly down right before you release the ball, like how Chris Barnes or kris prather do it.
I just got done rewatching your video most of it about low and high access rotation I love watching barks does barks have lower high access rotation
Best visual representation of this I have seen. Thank you!
best bowling youtube channel for sure!
Hell Yea I think this is the video I have been waiting for! The video’s are awesome guys thanks for the help!
This is pretty much how I would show axis rotation excellent informative video. I also would like to add that there are some balls that are more responsive to hand positions than others too. I always try to use equipment that reads my hand position more. A good example for me anyway, is the Synergy. It very much follows and reacts accordingly to any amount of rotation I have at release. The upcoming axis tilt video is a perfect choice follow up.
What ball doesn't respond well to rotation changes for you? Other than urethane haha
@@jrproshop The original Hyroad lmao. In all seriousness, the Hyroad series just does not match up with me.
Don’t know how you only have 7.8k subs,videos are always🔥
Thanks Chae!
Great video this helped me out alot because I was having issues with overly high axis rotation
Figuring out my own stats would be awesome!
Great video. Getting my own stats would be great!
Your videos are gorgeous. Thank you so much
Excellent demonstration
Randomly found your channel while looking into the RSTX1, love your videos keep it up boyz!
Thanks Paul!!
Beautiful! You guys really know your stuff and can explain them clearly!!!
Great Video, keep em coming!
I bowl with my pinky in the ball and it gives me a very good look, bowled my 1st 300 that way. I used the virtual energy. Pinky and ring finger for me, just gotta get used to the feel.
I bowl with my pinky and I love it
I get my hand close to the ball
@@glennswiney185 yea bowling with pinky really helps with staying behind the ball.
I would like the info on taking my own stats
Bring back some of these videos
There was a guy in league who used to stay pretty much in the same spot on the lane and kept the same target. Just thinking about it, he must have just taken his hand out of the ball more and more as the night went on where I was moving left by 5 or 6 boards instead. It drove me crazy sometimes. Recently I tried to get lined up with the Tropical Surge ball and found it nearly impossible during warm up. So I didn't use it. Maybe all I needed to do is to go to a lower rotation and stay behind the ball more. Dunno... :) Great demos Jungo...
Thanks clowny!! Tropical surge type balls will be tough to control on freshly oiled lanes
@@jrproshop Thanks! It's tough to swallow as that's why I was trying my best to use it. :)
Yes! That video will be so awesome
Awesome video. I appreciate how well you guys break down and explain such a complex subject matter. Well done guys!!!
Thanks Daron!!
Great information makes one think how i can improve my game
I think you kind of answered the question already, but just to be sure... Strictly urethane players should tend to stick with decreased axis rotation, yea? Urethane doesn't corner or make big moves down-lane, so trying to get it to seems counter-productive and that it would just burn up in the first 2/3 of the lane.
Correct, as when using urethane you're most likely playing a pretty straight line/ short oil pattern and therefore need the ball to hook very controllably and smooth
Great video! But could you include 2 handed for the axis tilt video? It should be awesome.
Yes, [please do a video on getting your own stats...that would be perfect. Thanks
Great video where do I put the tape to do this?
If you mean to check your axis rotation, you need to know your PAP. You can then put a piece of tape there, and you can also put another that goes from your PAP to above your finger holes.
Can you explain the way I bowl ? I CALL IT A BACK FLIP .I use my thumb at 6 and I flip hand up to 12 . I move my thumb to 7 or9 to get it hook more
Always learning something here🤘🏽 Thank you Jungo and team
Jung, I'm seeing the deep tiredness lines developing in your face. If you're not sleeping well anymore, go get a sleep study. I'm on a CPAP now and it changed my life and my bowling
Thanks for the concern. I actually sleep a lot it's just that we film after midnight after I've worked a 10+ hour day in the shop
Yes I love a video on stats
Why am I getting music part way through the video and no commentary?
Please do a session on launch angles
This was very helpful
Lmaoo 🤣 that loud music made my day. Anyways, did you re upload this video? I actually want to listen to what you have to say
Would love a video of how to do my own stats.
Me too!
I want to know how to place the white tape.
Ya all should start giving me more discounts at the pro shop, I watch all your videos too lol
Very good info
So which axis of rotation is best for a typical league house shot? Love your videos!
If you are not very skilled with changing axis rotation, better stick to the one that comes most natural to you. You can adjust other things to get results, until you practice other releases. If you can use a different one, then depends also on what kind of house pattern you bowl on. You should try both and see. Generally if there is a lot of friction and short pattern, you should try for less.
Hello from school 🙏
Can you do a video on drilling a asymmetrical ball negative? I have a really hi tilt and struggle to get my ball to flip over
Hey David! What do you mean by negative? If you have high tilt you should be laying out your ball with very low angles such as 35x4x35
@@jrproshop I think a video on this very topic would be amazing! I have 6 degrees of tilt (on the lower end) and track closer to the fingers, most of my equipment is pin up with larger drilling angles and smaller VAL ie. 65x5x35 For some reason these layouts seem to suit me but I don't really know why? I've recently drilled a Radical Results plus with the radical "most versatile" layout of 45x4x35 and it seems like this layout only suits me at certain houses. I know it's a complicated subject because you have lane friction to also consider, but your comment really made me think!
I love the video. I have a question. My release is weird according to the thing that shows your tilt, rotation, speed my tilt is 2 and rotation is 72 with a PAP of 5"x 31/32 up. What is the best way to drill balls to give me the best rotation.
That’s a pretty high rotation. Would need strong pin positions. Something like 40x4x40
Thanks for the video. Have been throwing 90 degrees , 2 handed, and hooks harder than this vid at the end. Have been increasing ball speed but will try changing axis angle now. Bowled 3 games over 200 last weekend, very good for me so not sure if I should. Also when I throw 0 degrees my ball has 0 hook. It’s a Columbia 300 messenger. Maybe the ball? Why doesn’t it hook?
Any tips for someone who wants to throw thumb in? It feels like when I try thumb in, I will either throw a straight ball or I’m going to straight up drop the ball. I do fine with 2 finger but really want to use my thumb as well.
Make sure you get your hand measured and have the ball drilled to you. That's the most important part
@@jrproshop thanks for the reply! I figured that was a huge issue for me. Just ordered my first ball in the Hy Road last week and gonna get it drilled as soon as it gets here.
If your ring finger span is too short in relation to your middle finger, will it make it harder to keep your hand behind it
Yes correct, easier to come around the ball and create higher axis rotation
One of the most informative bowling videos I have ever seen, thanks y’all!
I traditionally have a lower axis rotation.
What can I work on to get a higher axis rotation?
Loved it.
BRILLIANT,
Thanks for this video! My shot is definitely the one with High Axis Rotation, it always abruptly hooks at the end of the lane, often too early and too sharp, sometimes missing the pins entirely! Looks like i need to get my hand behind the ball a little more.. Any other tips?
Thanks for the great video guys you always provide quality content and provide detailed explanations. By any chance will you be doing a roto grip gem vs. storm super nova comparison?
Wow! This series is damn useful and good. I'm struggling on what a good time to change my ball during lane transition. Axis rotation change is a good direction for me to promote my game actually. I would love to learn more about different rolling shapes down the lane the ball creates and the speed adjustment if we need it. Looking forward to more videos for the two-handed bowlers, love you guys.
I guess im randomly asking but does anyone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account??
I was stupid lost the password. I love any help you can offer me!
@Kingsley Orion instablaster ;)
@Jeremiah Jase I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
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I want to know why 16# and why no finger inserts?
Hey Travis! I was told by a smart man once that if you can throw 16 comfortably you should, more weight more hitting power, so I tried it and felt like I carried more hits than normal and won a couple tournaments right away and never looked back. As for the no grips it was a measure to stop me from squeezing, (can't squeeze with sharp holes) it worked and I liked the feel of no grips much better so stuck with it
Can someone please help and explain if coming around the ball is a bad thing or not? I was always taught that you shouold shake hands with the head pin and flick and rotate your wrist. But everywhere i'm looking everyone saying that is wrong? HELP ty
I feel like this video is 33% a demonstrator/ humble brag for how good Jungo throws it. Geez, looks like a pro bowler or something
😂😂
do you know why there is a music track over the spoken audio in some of your videos?
Good video
Hey JR Pro Shop, your old videos are getting messed up somehow. Starting at about 2:45 through the 6 minute mark, your whole segment is ruined by some loud music that got layered over everything.I've seen this on several of your older videos.
4:23 lol I saw you dribble 🤣
Its funny for him to have "zero" axis rotation when the ball still hooks a ton. I can throw zero axis and the ball is straight as an arrow. I wish I could hook the ball that much. If his shot had no axis rotation it would have went in the the right gutter. His no axis rotation hooks more than when I am trying to hook it.
👍👍👍ty
You said Simu is a low axis rotation but when you did his stats he like 70 degrees
Low axis tilt
@@jrproshop cool, quick question. I have like 5 degrees of tilt and 75-80 degrees of axis rotation. What types of balls should i use? I know solids, but are asyms or symmetricals better? I have 325 rev rate. 16.25 mph
I'm so blind bro it all looks the same. I can't work it out without spinning it like a top which I know is wrong lmao.
Edit: 3:50 really helped.
Number 600 for likes!
I wish the music wasn't over the voice...
The music ruined it. Ughhhh 😕
for some reason people think playing loud stupid music helps video production LOL
WTF is with the music cutting in ????
Useless video, half way through it cuts to music only. Not very helpful when you can't hear what anyone is saying.
Good video