We always used a back tractor rim(taller) or a wheel with a tire on so that the chain would grip it instead of sliding. Never had a problem with it. It's a good method without the special equipment.
Yes, an inflated rubber tire on a metal rim is REQUIRED to grip the chain when using the "tire" method. tThe larger the diameter of the tire the greater the lever arm, torque to pull it up and out.
Thanks for the video! The man who built my fence took out some old t-posts. One was particularly difficult so he simply cut it off at the base leaving me about 6 inches of post to work with. Still figuring out how to remove it.
I see my next welding project. Going to make that dolly puller for sure. No gasoline or trailer needed to operate/ transport. Perfect for my little business. Thanks!
Lmao I think you need to do a redo on the wheel. Don’t think the viewers will let you get away with that. Any how take care and I look forward to the next video.
Worked in a steel yard and when we pulled by cable or chain, we would drop a heavy winter coat or blanket draped over the cable at the 1/2 way point... It will dampen the snap and fall downwards instead of whipping
@@jt5747 With out damaging the post? Dig beside the footing and get a jackhammer. A skid steer with a chain wrapped around the concrete is a possibility. That a heavy duty footing.
@@tylerwalker6653 yeah that’s my current setup and a winch on the trailer if I can get beside it trouble is trying to lift them out straight, that trolly let’s the concrete get out and keeps it lifting straight
When using a steel rim, you should wrap about a foot-and-a-half or so of chain around the fence post and through the center of the rim, connecting them using a grab hook or properly rated, temporary link. Keeps the rim from rolling away from the post, as that one did.
Yep, saved me saying exactly the same thing. Also the comment above from @ljhhontx about larger diameter wheel with tire on it - when added to your '2nd chain' suggestion is starting to look like a resolve. We use this method when recovering 4x4s stuck in deep mud. By placing a wheel & tire [vertically and in line as in this video] under the winch line where it meets the stuck vehicle, you add a lifting force to your pull that can break the suction and the accompanying inertia. Usual rule about staying out of the 'triangle of death' around any winch or rope recovery applies.
most of my posts break off at the ground.....so a little digging is required but i really like the first idea the best......put a block under the rim to keep it from rolling and it uses more leverage
Or fix the wheel to the post by chaining it through the hub center , And likely a taller diameter wheel prob with a tire would work alot better than this obviously failed concept.
Hi Joe Long time follower. As always very entertaining and informative. I have been trying to get my hands on an Eco Post Puller for a long time but from some reason this Canadian fellow is falling short of procuring one. Any help from you or your team would be greatly appreciated Cheers
I live in Tennessee, how deep should I dig in clay soil to set a wood fence post and how many bags of concrete should I use? Should I use high strength concrete? Do I need to add gravel to the concrete?
I'm not a professional, but the few concrete plugs I've removed have always been where the fence post rotted off at the ground level. With a hi-lift jack, you dig down far enough to securely (you don't want that chain coming back at you) wrap the chain around the body of the plug (easier where the concrete has a lip at ground level). Without a jack, then yeah it's a dig job, either all around, or down one side and tip it over into the new hole and pull it. Still can be quite a lift from the weight of the plug and any initial friction pulling it free from the sides of the hole, so even without a jack, a chain is handy. The old fence post can help with this, if you stand it up close to the plug, run the chain nearly vertical up over the top end, nail or lag it through the links to the top of the post, then pull either on the other end of the chain or the top of the post as needed. The post tips over toward you as you pull, and not only directs the force up, but helps leverage it over. Kind of like the rim in the video, but jammed in the ground and doesn't roll away. And with any chain or cable under tension like this, it always increases safety to drape or tie something with a bit of weight over the chain, like a partly-filled sandbag, heavy blanket, etc., to dampen the 'whipcrack' effect if the chain suddenly comes loose and wants to 'reach out and touch' you....
Soak the ground around the post with water so the area around the post is saturated and usually the concrete will come out with the post! Or dig down some and put the hose in the hole to get the water far Down into the ground around the concrete. Works well
What would you do if there was the equivalent of 12 quickrete bags surrounding a rotten post? Cause you might run in this problem if i hire you to remove the fence i just built 😅
Put the largest/heaviest door mat you can find over the chain I’ve actually seen chain whip stopped with wet towels but I like having a commercial door mat over mine Stops chain dead
Any body rig up a modified verticle position gas log splitter to pull out fence posts ? Especially a bi-directional splitting capable verticle log splitter , I'd suspect your average 25 ton splitter modified just a little bit in the right way would tear our deep heavy posts easily as long as your attachment point on the post doesn't break off I'd see it being a good setup
If you are going to gun it like those videos with a broken glass window a nice thick steel plate even if it is temporarily attached would be safer than just glass. I don't know enough about the forces potentially involved in the chain failing & hitting the driver to say how thick it would need to be though. I think for the tire method you should have rubber on the rim & either chock the tire or use a chain or really strong cable to keep the tire from rolling. As far as the diameter of the tire or rim that will depend on the mount points on the post & equipment you are trying to pull it out with.
Is this for the homeowner? I'll just use a high lift jack, I don't need 5 to 10 grand in equipment to pull a fence post? The wheel method was hilarious lol
You need to use a an old tractor rim taller that the hitch point. Then the wheel moves back toward the post. Works every time. That little wheel is no bueno!
The wheel method should have a tire on it. Last video I saw had the tire on the wheel. I have a 6 in metal post running 4ft underground with probably 60-80lb concrete holding it. Looks like there's no way way for a simple homeowner with limited tools to get it out. 😮😅
@JoeEverest yes, thank you. We decided not to pull it. Cut it 3ft down into the hole and covered it. I'll put a bird bath over it to flag the spot in the event we need to dig in that area.
Break the concrete with small jack hammer then lift post by hand. This works 50% of the time for me only works on job if concrete can stay in the ground.
That ground was so soft he could have just used the post for leverage and pushed it left and right then forward/backward, then around and around and lifted it by hand. No equipment needed!
Poor man's version is attaching a chain directly to the bottom of the cleat on a highlift jack placing the jack as close as possible to the post and raising the jack. Second method for $50 you can by a manual puller which is simply a lever and fulcrum with a chain attached. The are at any big box home improvement store, tractor supply or Amazon.
Standard practice is to put a rock or anything that wedges the tire in place. Or to use one with a tire. 😂 professionals. It would also be smart to use a chain damper in case it breaks.
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We always used a back tractor rim(taller) or a wheel with a tire on so that the chain would grip it instead of sliding. Never had a problem with it. It's a good method without the special equipment.
Yes, an inflated rubber tire on a metal rim is REQUIRED to grip the chain when using the "tire" method. tThe larger the diameter of the tire the greater the lever arm, torque to pull it up and out.
We always wedged a peice of split wood in front of the wheel to stop it from rolling too early
Same. Works perfectly
Thanks for the video! The man who built my fence took out some old t-posts. One was particularly difficult so he simply cut it off at the base leaving me about 6 inches of post to work with. Still figuring out how to remove it.
You didn't mention if you had your mom on speed dial! Another layer of safety!
Thanks for showing the comparison 🙂
Always wondered about using an old wheel, thanks for saving me the time of trying it
I see my next welding project. Going to make that dolly puller for sure. No gasoline or trailer needed to operate/ transport. Perfect for my little business. Thanks!
Lmao I think you need to do a redo on the wheel. Don’t think the viewers will let you get away with that. Any how take care and I look forward to the next video.
Worked in a steel yard and when we pulled by cable or chain, we would drop a heavy winter coat or blanket draped over the cable at the 1/2 way point... It will dampen the snap and fall downwards instead of whipping
Great idea, I appreciate you sharing it!
Yup throw something anything u can over it. Few old timers at work wondered what I was doing & explained. They all said good idea
I just use the tree remover attachment for my Bobcat skid loader! 😂
Love it, great idea!
We use that as well . On broken off posts , dig around it a little to get the jaws on the part left in the ground and pull it up .
As a fence contractor for industrial chain link. Sometimes with a big footing we simply dig a hole beside and move it over.
How would you remove a 4" galvanized fence post buried in a 4' deep, 18" wide concrete base, if you wanted to save the post?
@@jt5747 With out damaging the post? Dig beside the footing and get a jackhammer. A skid steer with a chain wrapped around the concrete is a possibility. That a heavy duty footing.
@@billykennedy3750 thanks. Looks like I may be cutting them off at the base and using them fo a shorter fence.
Where can I buy one of them dolly jacks
Just use a highlift jack from harbor freight and use a chain
@@tylerwalker6653 yeah that’s my current setup and a winch on the trailer if I can get beside it trouble is trying to lift them out straight, that trolly let’s the concrete get out and keeps it lifting straight
I typically just wake up early in the morning and chain the post to my neighbors truck before he goes to work.
😂 that could work, too!
Good one😂
Works better with a tire .. not a slippery rim only =))) Still finding you in '24 ! Thnx for the vid!
Appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching!
what about wooden fence posts but have no acsess for machinery im in the uk 3 ft gate acsess only
When using a steel rim, you should wrap about a foot-and-a-half or so of chain around the fence post and through the center of the rim, connecting them using a grab hook or properly rated, temporary link. Keeps the rim from rolling away from the post, as that one did.
Yep, saved me saying exactly the same thing. Also the comment above from @ljhhontx about larger diameter wheel with tire on it - when added to your '2nd chain' suggestion is starting to look like a resolve. We use this method when recovering 4x4s stuck in deep mud. By placing a wheel & tire [vertically and in line as in this video] under the winch line where it meets the stuck vehicle, you add a lifting force to your pull that can break the suction and the accompanying inertia. Usual rule about staying out of the 'triangle of death' around any winch or rope recovery applies.
I use the trackmader forks for concreted posts and the linear action of the telemast for the stronger deeper driven post
Fantastic
Thank you! Cheers!
@@JoeEverest 👍🏼
Good video Joe 👌
Use the force Luke… I mean Joe. Lol. Good stuff again. Keep it up Joe. 👍
most of my posts break off at the ground.....so a little digging is required but i really like the first idea the best......put a block under the rim to keep it from rolling and it uses more leverage
Or fix the wheel to the post by chaining it through the hub center , And likely a taller diameter wheel prob with a tire would work alot better than this obviously failed concept.
method didn't fail, you did.
Hi Joe
Long time follower. As always very entertaining and informative.
I have been trying to get my hands on an Eco Post Puller for a long time but from some reason this Canadian fellow is falling short of procuring one. Any help from you or your team would be greatly appreciated
Cheers
Safety first ,main thing. Good job !
Agreed, thanks for watching!
I used a hide away repo wreaker.
hi joe! how many bags of quikrete should i use on a 6 ft chain link post? the fence im working with is about 400 ft
I live in Tennessee, how deep should I dig in clay soil to set a wood fence post and how many bags of concrete should I use? Should I use high strength concrete? Do I need to add gravel to the concrete?
How would you remove a 4" galvanized fence post buried in a 4' deep, 18" wide concrete base, if you wanted to save the post?
The tire kinda needs.... a tire....
He purposely did that to make it fail. I understand buddy needs his job 😂😂
Damn, someone went to town on that skid steer guard! 🤣
Bullet proof vest! Just in case Joe lol
This video deserves over 10 million views
🙏🙏🙏
Because you didn’t have an actual tire, this method works great, did it myself several times
Good to know, I appreciate the feedback!
I use the new post as a lever to lift out the old one.
How would you remove the post where the post was gone or rotted? iE. just concrete and no post?
My dad taught me the fulcrum method. On black clay it came out easily.
Love it, I appreciate you sharing your experience!
Ya you would need where the chain is hooked to the truck below the top of the wheel
That definitely makes more sense!
In the UK we just dig it out.
We always dig next to the post to remove, and if need be use a rock bar to get the concrete off.
Joe. How do you guys deal with concrete left in the ground when the post pulls out of the concrete when removing? Dig it out?
I'm not a professional, but the few concrete plugs I've removed have always been where the fence post rotted off at the ground level. With a hi-lift jack, you dig down far enough to securely (you don't want that chain coming back at you) wrap the chain around the body of the plug (easier where the concrete has a lip at ground level). Without a jack, then yeah it's a dig job, either all around, or down one side and tip it over into the new hole and pull it. Still can be quite a lift from the weight of the plug and any initial friction pulling it free from the sides of the hole, so even without a jack, a chain is handy. The old fence post can help with this, if you stand it up close to the plug, run the chain nearly vertical up over the top end, nail or lag it through the links to the top of the post, then pull either on the other end of the chain or the top of the post as needed. The post tips over toward you as you pull, and not only directs the force up, but helps leverage it over. Kind of like the rim in the video, but jammed in the ground and doesn't roll away. And with any chain or cable under tension like this, it always increases safety to drape or tie something with a bit of weight over the chain, like a partly-filled sandbag, heavy blanket, etc., to dampen the 'whipcrack' effect if the chain suddenly comes loose and wants to 'reach out and touch' you....
Soak the ground around the post with water so the area around the post is saturated and usually the concrete will come out with the post! Or dig down some and put the hose in the hole to get the water far Down into the ground around the concrete. Works well
I have a chain now i just need to get a rim and a tractor or something like that
When’s your next live session?
Feel better Joe!
What would you do if there was the equivalent of 12 quickrete bags surrounding a rotten post? Cause you might run in this problem if i hire you to remove the fence i just built 😅
Sounds incredibly solid! At that point we’d just dig around it and pop it out with a skid steer or equivalent.
@@JoeEverest nice! Thank you for answering 😁
@@nosvibes9786 very welcome!
A normal highlift jack and chain is way less intrusive on the bed of the truck just as easy as method 1, just have to haul the plug to truck though
Beauty
Put the largest/heaviest door mat you can find over the chain
I’ve actually seen chain whip stopped with wet towels but I like having a commercial door mat over mine
Stops chain dead
Use a tire on a rim and more chain it works
Any body rig up a modified verticle position gas log splitter to pull out fence posts ? Especially a bi-directional splitting capable verticle log splitter , I'd suspect your average 25 ton splitter modified just a little bit in the right way would tear our deep heavy posts easily as long as your attachment point on the post doesn't break off I'd see it being a good setup
If you are going to gun it like those videos with a broken glass window a nice thick steel plate even if it is temporarily attached would be safer than just glass. I don't know enough about the forces potentially involved in the chain failing & hitting the driver to say how thick it would need to be though.
I think for the tire method you should have rubber on the rim & either chock the tire or use a chain or really strong cable to keep the tire from rolling. As far as the diameter of the tire or rim that will depend on the mount points on the post & equipment you are trying to pull it out with.
All great points, I appreciate the input!
Is this for the homeowner? I'll just use a high lift jack, I don't need 5 to 10 grand in equipment to pull a fence post? The wheel method was hilarious lol
The tire method is supposed to actually have a tire on it that's Actually big enough.
Love your videos and your input!
Thanks Richard!
they are all levers . if a bar is attached to it and is levered on a fulcrum its the same as using the tyre rim .
Tie the wheel to the post
Dynamite work too. 😂
Great when you've got a full strong post, but what about a rotted off stump post with it level with the ground ?? 🤔🤔
You need earplugs too.😆
Great point
It’s not too deep!
What about 3 or 4 feet?
I'd chock that rim, with a wedge or a stake in the ground. The chain will still slip over the metal, and the upward force will be preserved.
Who cements star pickets in WUT
You need to use a an old tractor rim taller that the hitch point. Then the wheel moves back toward the post. Works every time. That little wheel is no bueno!
You’re actually saying “tyre” without acknowledging there’s no tyre lol. Pretty sure if one was fitted it would go better
Tire.
You better have steel toe boots on or the safety squad is coming for you, Fence Guy!
Great point! Thanks for the heads up!
The wheel method should have a tire on it. Last video I saw had the tire on the wheel.
I have a 6 in metal post running 4ft underground with probably 60-80lb concrete holding it.
Looks like there's no way way for a simple homeowner with limited tools to get it out. 😮😅
@@ldqa2737 most rental houses will have a solution available for a daily charge
@JoeEverest yes, thank you.
We decided not to pull it. Cut it 3ft down into the hole and covered it. I'll put a bird bath over it to flag the spot in the event we need to dig in that area.
Steel toe boots and puncture resistant soles. You could step on a nail.
3 words. Compound Pulley System
Great idea, I’ll add it to the suggestions list!
Break the concrete with small jack hammer then lift post by hand. This works 50% of the time for me only works on job if concrete can stay in the ground.
Should be using a tire and wheel not a wheel rim
you're supposed to leave the tyre one 😅
Good to know!
Steel toe capped boots. No flip flops, trainers or high heels.
Agreed!
Get a bull or a strong stallion to pull it up. 😆
Put a tire on the rim
Great idea, we’ll try that next!
That is hilarious he obviously got some bad info. He didn't seem to even notice.
I would just pull them out with the fork lift
That ground was so soft he could have just used the post for leverage and pushed it left and right then forward/backward, then around and around and lifted it by hand. No equipment needed!
Not wrapped right
You should have a tire on the wheel.
Fair point
Poor man's version is attaching a chain directly to the bottom of the cleat on a highlift jack placing the jack as close as possible to the post and raising the jack.
Second method for $50 you can by a manual puller which is simply a lever and fulcrum with a chain attached. The are at any big box home improvement store, tractor supply or Amazon.
Great point, I appreciate you sharing your experience!
Anybody have a old bomb disposable suit to send him to wear as ppe
tis not a tyre but a rim
"Tire"
Standard practice is to put a rock or anything that wedges the tire in place. Or to use one with a tire. 😂 professionals. It would also be smart to use a chain damper in case it breaks.
Thats called a wheel, a tire is made of rubber.
You did it wrong...the chain has to be lower than the top of the rim
Good to know, I appreciate the clarification!
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You are not using that equipment in many gardens
@@JoeEverest do you erect security fencing and gates?
erm,
I don't think that's a tyre.
Need a tire on it.
Good call!
pssst thts not a tire that is a wheel or a rim................ tires are made of rubber :D
Maybe he forgot to get the tire and that is why it didn't work? Surely he knows the difference between a tire and wheel? hmmmm.
None of these ideas work when that post is broken 6" underground.
Why do all such videos feature such miniscule footings? This isn't confidence inspiring for when you have to remove a difficult footing.
We had no idea what the footings were like before removing 🤷♂️
I've never seen someone attempt using a wheel with no tire on it.
Big time fail on the wheel method. Smh.
I stopped watching when you repeatedly called it a tire. it's a wheel , a freaking wheel 😫
Apologize for the massive confusion I’ve caused.
Where can I buy one of those jacks