I love AI it can design cosmetics like nobody's business, the way people are using AI is actually against the law a little bit, you can't just have AI commercial and expect it to be professionally done, i've seen the comebook industry using AI, and I consider that scamming I guess, what I do with AI i have it design characters, Then I redesigned the characters without AI in my own art style, AI is supposed to just be a tool not to be taken serious, so anybody abusing AI art, they are scammers or criminals, in my opinion, don't trust them, also I learned that you can make AI Fight each other, which I am studying
I feel like we are going to reach a point where content isnt made by humans anymore but by AI models. Maybe kwebbelkop was right but just went about it the wrong way because instead of replacing himself with AI. he should have created new channels with AI content with AI advertising their content creating their own feedback loop. this feels like that but way worse because its stealing other peoples content
Best case scenario this leads to all humans abandoning social media and subsequently advertisers pulling out. Social media then completely implodes and an internet Renaissance begins.
You think thirsty man in india and other countries like this will stop overnight? Nah. These men are delulu and will never stop gooning for western women.
I agree, it's not like it's something worse, it always had that function of deceiving fools and it still does, but now with more fingers. Do I really care if pervertes are simping for real or AI social celebrities? NO!
FB is like that as well. There is very little content shown from a user's "friends". Instead, feeds are filled with ads and "Suggested for you" crap and there is no way to disable or even reduce them.
At the end, I used facebook only to have a condensed feed containing the news from sources I seek out regularly. I quit when they suddenly started showing me 90% ads and posts from random groups I had no interest in...
my phone broke and I just haven't gotten it fixed. and honestly I feel better than I have in years. been about a month now, I read more, go outside, talk to my coworkers and relearned how to navigate without google maps. I still get online, just wait till I'm home now. I forgot how cool the world can be.
We have had makeup, photoshop and filters filters for years now so this sort of just the contuation. (And i guess culmination) of what has already been going on.
True, but part of the problem is the ease of access and flooding of AI material. Even if the old content was exaggerated or outright fake, it was still steadily processed through some easily trackable body, be it a person or a company. But with AI, this content can flood sites in mere days without a clear origin. And that's not even getting into the possibility of impersonation or illegal material being created with AI (which has already happened in some respect). Not to be a nerd, but I'm reminded of the Patriot AI in MGS2, where part of the problem it was meant to address was the flood of unfiltered information that no person could reasonably shift through. It feels like we're heading towards that very future.
@flarestorm9417 it's going to be really interesting so see what happens in the next few years almost a bit scary how close kojima was in predicting a post truth society
Upper Echelon has long since become an actual independend journalist, reporting on trends in media months and even sometimes years before MSM gets to them. I love his work.
We must not forget that most UA-cam journalists are very dependent on the sources they use that actually did the research needed to figure these things out. If we put too much emphasis on the people reporting what is happening, we may forget to support the institutions, organizations and research journalists that provide the information in the first place. That is not to say that there aren’t any UA-camrs who do this type of research or that Upper Echelon never does. Just something to keep in mind.
@@KaisarHendrik It's also important to remember that we are all dependent on those sources doing their research properly, and not making stupid, or intentional, mistakes. Something which has been happening more and more. People reporting news, whether they are funded by giga-corporations and governments, or by their youtube viewers, are still subject to manipulated or flawed data.
William Gibson's 1996 novel _Idoru_ explores the virtual thirst trap phenomenon. 1996 -- almost 30 years ago. That's what real science fiction writers can do.
Bridled greed is the key to capitalism's sustainability. We have seen that bridle slowly loosened by those in control for their own personal gain, at the expensive of the system's long term survival.
@Goodgu3963 Greed, if left unchecked, always ends up eating its own tail. Up to a certain point, greed drives people to innovate... but when they get enough money and power, they realize that buying the government and building monopolies to exploit people with impunity is a more profitable way.
@@veritaspk Plus, the powerful have built a system that promotes greed, uses it as a power source, sometimes throws bones to randoms, and always rewards those in charge of it. As soon as a company by an independent is popular the globalith buys it up or it enters the betting market, at which point greed becomes its only life source, until it's a shell of its former self.
They actually deleted a pic with my shirt off. Im a DUDE... back in the day they were that strict. Same with Tjnder. My pics were deleted but now people can be half n*de and its all peaches n cream.
They've been banning any legitimate journalistic outlets covering Ukraine or the middle-east for a long time now. They are basically just an extension of the Zionist lobby now I guess
I have never understood the value of Instagram. It makes zero sense to me why someone would use it. All of these algo driven platforms are trash. The content is great but they way they force us to browse is just bad all the way around.
I started using Instagram in 2013, when I got interested in "phone photography". It was a fun way to take interesting pictures of your surroundings and things that interest you. Good looking pictures got you likes and follows and sometimes you even landed on the "explore page", giving you more exposure. All that just by having good photos and maybe some hashtags. That was the good time of Instagram. That changed abruptly and severly when they started not having a chronological feed anymore. Probably already before that, but yeah. It was good for a short time. Now it's indeed just a cesspit of ads, regurgitated TikTok brainrot, AI slop and thirst traps.
Literally *years* ago it had good meme pages without having to use twitter or facebook but that has been long gone. Now even the meme pages are just thirst trapping.
I think a vast portion of the terminally online literally don't care if a thirst trap is AI generated or not, because a real Instagram model is actually less likely to give them what they want than an AI.
I've been an MGS cosplayer for almost 10 years now, never got more than 40+ likes on average for my photos- I tried checking the algorithm by posting a pic of a female cosplayer doing my same character and instantly got 100+ likes and a few followers from it... I stopped giving a shit afterwards and realized no one really cares what I do as a man on the Internet.
All you can do is appreciate the times when scrolling social media was a still image glimpse into what your friends/family and favorite celebrities were up to. Now it's just a tornado of video ads and bot spams.
I wish youtube would stop recommending me ai music. I keep hitting do not recommend channel but theres so many they just keep popping up. It's getting really annoying.
And look at all the traffic interacting with it spamming emojis and simple statements. It's literally just bots interacting with bots. How is anyone making money off this again ?
Advertisers duped into thinking the engagement is real have their money dished out to influencers on the platform. If the advertisers pull out the system hopefully falls apart.
@@redaxecat9206 not gonna happen. consider Bots thrives on platform that doesnt require an ID. than theres the fact that Bots bin gradually getting smarter. meaning this current echo system the platform itself will go bankrupt or sued to oblivion because of this.
Simple, that money is coming from us. Bot developers make money from platforms for driving ad traffic. Platforms make money buy selling advertising space to advertising companies. Advertising companies make money buy selling their services of setting up and managing directed advertising to companies. Companies make money by selling products or services to you. Sometimes platforms are also advertising companies, and there are also databrokers which buy data from companies and sell it to advertisers. The ultimate problem is that advertising works. Paying for advertising a shitty product produces a greater return than putting that money into making the product better. Whether these companies see these results in their own data, or whether they are just being told so by advertising companies i'm not sure. However the ultimate problem is that we as humans both tolerated insane numbers of ads, and are susceptible to the psychological manipulation being used.
All the talk of AI, the one thing that everyone ignores about AI taking jobs is... what happen when their are not enough people to buy stuff??? Or for Governments to Tax. Without money to buy productions the Robots don't need to make anything. All jobs service a need, when people can't buy the service then you don't even need those AI robots. The current economy won't function. Even giving people Universe Basic Income doesn't work without people being Taxed. Will governments force company's using AI or Robots to pay taxes as if they were human's doing the same jobs? Each Robot or AI service will need to be Tax like a wage otherwise their will be a massive financial collapses. This might be part of the managed decline govements are preping for
It will be and can only be addressed with digital IDs, the problem with those......... Well, oh boy... where do I even start... Edit: it will become worse before it becomes better...
I am oldish will probably be dead in 10 years. I dont care if people know my name on social media. Say stupid, sometimes ignorant things- whatever. I do feel.sorry.for my adult kids and their children. Would be interesting if i could get to 2050 to see what happens, but doubt it
I left instagram like 2019 or so because so many other goth people i followed turned into walking OF advertisements. I think social media is half bots, half pr0n content and I'm not even a prude, its just annoying to see it constantly when i dont interact with that content at all.
The "women" on Instagram have not been "real" for a long time. Almost all the photos are distorted by so much make-up, special angles, filters, photoshop, etc. that if you met these women in real life you probably would not recognise them. If they get sprayed with a hose first, then you definitely would not recognise them. Boys growing up on the internet barely even know what a natural woman even looks like. Removing the base human from the process is the next logical step. Women made themselves obsolete. As much as some complain about unattainable beauty standards, the others put a lot of effort into using deceptive means to raise those standards to a point higher than any human is capable of competing with. But men will be the ones blamed for the womens behaviour.
I put it to you that the "human" content had already been well drowned out long before bots came on the platform. Nobody on there was ever an actual human living their real life in public. They were always just photoshoots of lives being photoshopped into idealistic oblivion. Nothing has changed.
To be honest the alteration thing isn't exactly new, it's the next logical step after the overuse of make up and later filters and Photoshop. One of the reasons I never liked Instagram was that it pushed the idea of "perfect", perfect face, perfect body, perfect vacation, perfect relationship, perfect life. Also I find thirst trap stupid, it's two steps down from softcore Corn, just show me the real thing.
I've despised the social media mindset for years now. Even just people taking someone else's video, putting that stupid white background and their own caption, like its their video. Go find me something truly original on social media and I will be truly shocked. I just never thought that the first original content renaissance in years would be crapped out on a stretcher by an unnervingly inhuman, mindless AI. Cancer eating cancer.
Originality was always about half obscurity. The fact that you can see all the inspirations breaks the illusion. Of course, freebooting is still abhorrent.
@13:00 I disagree that YT should remove that "how to" video, instead it should excessively promote it so people can educate themselves on how to spot the trend, because lets face it - there will be places where people wanting to exploit that trend can get access to the know-how anyway
We take our daughter outside. She also definitely won't have social media before puberty, lol. Who the fuck in their right mind would let their kid on social media. /rhetorical
@@nocturnalverse5739 Hey, how old is your daughter? And how difficult has it been to keep her away from social media so far? I've got a son on the way and I'd like to hear other parents experiences and methods for keeping them away from social media and smart devices in general.
Or an actual man for that matter. By now, absolutely bat shit crazy unreachable "beauty" standards are pushed to boys just as hard as they are pushed to women. Steroid use in male teens is climbing REALLY fast. Surgery is getting more commonplace (e. g. have your jaw broken to become more manly); and while men aren't taught to be "slim" to be sexy, they are being taught to be lean and get below 12% body fat. All sexes and genders are completely mind f*'ed by the beauty machine.
It won't. NFTs never had any true utility, as it was an attempt to provide physical rarity to a digital good. Who cares if you have the first edition of a digital item if you can perfectly replicate said item with ease? But with AI, it actually has a lot of utility. Be it generating assets to save/money, moderating chats with AI, making fake people to scam others, etc. I doubt it will go away.
@@flarestorm9417 This. AI, unlike NFT, has utility. I myself created couple of chrome extensions (for work) with help of AI, and I don't even know how to program.
one element that you may want to consider is that people don't value anything anymore. Art, music, film, writing, poetry, photography, it's all just "content". It's consumable slop that no one assigns any value to, largely thanks to obfuscating the value of such things with ad-supported and subscription models and to massive multi-billion dollar studios treating their IPs as just that and selling it as such. People aren't going to care if something is hand made, or human made, or even made with any sort of vision because it means nothing to them these days. I hate that AI now exists to do all of these uniquely human things.
Another reason for me to NEVER post images of my body online. I've been advising younger women to never post selfies in public for years, the AI stuff is making me do so even more intensely. The thought of someone just stealing pictures of my body and swapping out my face is so disgusting, the "AI undressing" tools too, unbelievably uncomfortable. It feels like a violation in a way I don't even have the language to express yet. For influencers you're a little insulated because it's not personal, you're revealing yourself on purpose because it makes money, but this is still an extremely skeevy use of the images people produce in a way they didn't intend, literally stealing someone's likeness to make money off of their body. It drives me nuts that anyone thinks this is okay.
It literally is. I’ve deleted all of it but UA-cam. I tried everything to make it work but ultimately I’ve just accepted I’m Better off without. The disconnect is far too great the platforms have put short term profits over everything else.
A few years ago I said "today marks a terrifying day, AI is the best it's ever been, and the worst it will ever be" in reference to Will Smith eating spaghetti. 6 months ago... I said the same thing regarding Sora. The video software that could make fantastic videos based on a prompt. Today I say it, in regards to the fact that there are less than 10 billion people in the world. But in a year, there will be over 100 billion profiles. All engagement will be fake. Less than 1% of random online encounters will be with real people. It will be essentially impossible to do anything on the internet. Today is the best AI has ever been, and the worst it will ever be. And that should be terrifying.
The last point about messaging the real human that their photos are stolen - this happened to my friend group before when we found out one of us as catfishing another guy. Messaged the guy about this issue, they couldn't care less
The earlier pattern recognition machine learning has potential for things like medical diagnosis. The generative stuff mostly seems to have bad uses, other than simpler uses like improved text to speech or translation. Other things with potential, like creating artificial images that aren't pretending to be real, for small uses where you can't pay to have it made by a person, is spoiled by the way it plagiarizes actual artists work without credit or pay. Those could be redeemed by having them trained on sources that are licensed in a way similar to stock photos.
We also have people digging up new pieces from Chopin and Mozart beating out living composers for performance time. Us alive are here to feed the unalive. Weird times...
I think we would probably be better off without the human element in this case. I think having the human element has only been a detriment to society, so i wouldnt exactly be sad to see Instagram models go away, or atleast lose their influence. It is similar to say that Ai is ruining the porn industry... should i be heartbroken that women are losing a possible career route? Geuss they will have to develop an actual skillset.
I left Facebook and Instagram in 2017 i used to post my digital art(hobby) but my feed was full of influencers always hanging out in "interesting" places i was so depressed that i felt like i wasnt interesting so i left social media am now way better
Interesting that what happened to graphic and music artists is now happening to real human beings. First they feed the thing with our craft, now they feed it with our personalities. Any oppinions on adversarial software? Like glaze or nightshade?
As some people have already pointed out, the economics of this is fascinating. If we draw this out to its natural conclusion, we have AI content profiles interacting with AI engagement profiles increasing to the limit of 100%. Given that neither of these entities are able to add value(ie pay for products in advertising), as we approach that limit, the tools will get less and less effective, as the resource pool gets progressively(statistically) shrunk to 0. Eventually, meta will be left with an advertising evaluation so low that they will either need to close down the service (incredibly unlikely) or will need to take an active role in addressing the AI problem. This kinda reminds me of an invasive species in a lake. If no-one does anything, it can kill off the good fishing population, which kills tourism of the lake.
Last week my Sony Xperia decided to upgrade itself without any questions and installed Gemini on my phone, swapped unlock button into gemini shortcut, making in impossible to turn off my screen, i had to disable it manually deep into the settings but before I was able to disable it, I had answer some questions to fully finish my setup with gemini. Now I can't even uninstall the app or even hide it in menu. Hate all the ai bullshit. Hopefully it will bite it's own tail soon
Dead Internet Theory goes BRRRRR. It's honestly wild that all these tech companies don't realise how this could (and likely will) eventually backfire on them. Once real people can't make something off their own work, they'll disappear, and we'll end up with only AI produced content, and in time I presume the audience for such content is just going to shrink until these platforms are overrun with AI content, with almost nobody to consume it, and when there are no consumers there is no income. At that point, how long would social media last when the human users are grossly outnumbered by AI accounts? AI doesn't work regular jobs, it doesn't have money to spend, it doesn't consume content in such a way as to generate ad revenue like a human does (at least I presume it doesn't), and it does push plenty of people away from said platforms who would/could generate revenue for it. Humanity survived without social media before, and push come to shove I don't think we'll miss it as much as we think we might if we get pushed out by AI. Though I feel that if Social Media collapses, it wouldn't be too much longer before we see the shockwaves of it ripple through places like Twitch and UA-cam, platforms that saw their growth boom due to social media and might not be anywhere near the level they are at today without it (not that they aren't going through their own issues lately either).
I use instagram regularly and had no idea this issue existed, may have something to do with the fact that I hide/report thirst traps and stick to viewing memes and model kit content
If we can take the "human" out of human content, and people still eat it up, you have to wonder if we ever actually valued the human aspect in the first place.
I would only suggest that Instagram NEVER had 'Human' Content. Everything on Instagram is a contextualized narrative, rarely if ever reflecting the truth in the life on display. That IS the business model.
if it never had human content than it woudve never bin a buisness in the first place buddy. no buisness operates that out of truth and truth is subjective if it isnt lawful established. Instagram exist because it provides as an open platform for an unregulated advertisement. People wants to see pretty lies and outrage. this isnt a conspircay whatsoever. if youn dont like it than dont use it, it is that simple.
@@dendrien cool story next time read what someone says before dissagreeing he's saying the content posted by actual humans isn't human content it isnt actual lives it's facades created to give the appearance of a certain life he didnt make the point that there never were humans neither did he say he doesn't like it In future when your big brain moments start first read the whole comment see what it is about and then respond instead of attacking 2 points he said nothing about
Also i sad to inform you that image at 8:20 is completely AI generated, look at the numbers on seats more closely, they not in the correct order and the farther ones have dots instead of numbers on them. While SDXL would have some troubles with such image, Flux will not, it can handle eligable text pretty well.
These accounts are also now mass liking comments. So, I may suddenly receive 4 likes on a series of comments over time for a single creator on IG. I think it's to play on people's curiosity. "Who's the person who liked my comments?" and then you look at their profile and start following. I don't follow any actual people-based profiles on IG, just some artists and crafts so I wouldn't do this but I bet you ANYTHING this predatory behavior WORKS.
We're gonna go through some tumultuous times with AI and this kind of thing, but give it a single human generation and it will be about as common and accepted as anything else. Makes me feel a bit uneasy, to be honest. People always say AI can't create anything new, but really...that is not going to matter at all, especially with stuff like this.
I cant use instagram anymore. Most my female friends have pre-teen kids. They post pictures of their kids. Instagrams just assumed that that's the kind of content I enjoy. When I open the Explore on insta it's all those thirst trap pics but for R.Kelly. Disgusting and troubling.
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I love AI it can design cosmetics like nobody's business, the way people are using AI is actually against the law a little bit, you can't just have AI commercial and expect it to be professionally done, i've seen the comebook industry using AI, and I consider that scamming I guess, what I do with AI i have it design characters, Then I redesigned the characters without AI in my own art style, AI is supposed to just be a tool not to be taken serious, so anybody abusing AI art, they are scammers or criminals, in my opinion, don't trust them, also I learned that you can make AI Fight each other, which I am studying
I feel like we are going to reach a point where content isnt made by humans anymore but by AI models. Maybe kwebbelkop was right but just went about it the wrong way because instead of replacing himself with AI. he should have created new channels with AI content with AI advertising their content creating their own feedback loop. this feels like that but way worse because its stealing other peoples content
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Best case scenario this leads to all humans abandoning social media and subsequently advertisers pulling out. Social media then completely implodes and an internet Renaissance begins.
That's the dead internet theory. We thought it was far fetch. Turns out to be a very real possibility now.
Worst case scenario, this leads the dark age of technology, have a war with AI and have five thousand years of Strife
You think thirsty man in india and other countries like this will stop overnight? Nah. These men are delulu and will never stop gooning for western women.
And our emperor will unite us and lead us on a great crusade to bring all the worlds in the galaxy under a united rule.
Ooohhh talk dirty to me!!!
Instagram was a cesspit and now it is still that but with more fingers.
And boobs like in Total Recall.
😂
Never been on IG. I can smell it when I get too close.
I agree, it's not like it's something worse, it always had that function of deceiving fools and it still does, but now with more fingers.
Do I really care if pervertes are simping for real or AI social celebrities? NO!
@@freddieoblivion6122Same! It smells like burnt plastic and sweat lol.
FB is like that as well. There is very little content shown from a user's "friends". Instead, feeds are filled with ads and "Suggested for you" crap and there is no way to disable or even reduce them.
Actually there are Chrome and Firefox apps to get rid of them. F.B. Purity is a good one.
Even worse when it's a literal porn advertisement and you report it and apparently it doesn't violate standards
theres browser extensions that can block all of those.
At the end, I used facebook only to have a condensed feed containing the news from sources I seek out regularly.
I quit when they suddenly started showing me 90% ads and posts from random groups I had no interest in...
I've long since given up on anything but UA-cam and Reddit, and even then Reddit is getting worse.
my phone broke and I just haven't gotten it fixed. and honestly I feel better than I have in years. been about a month now, I read more, go outside, talk to my coworkers and relearned how to navigate without google maps. I still get online, just wait till I'm home now. I forgot how cool the world can be.
We have had makeup, photoshop and filters filters for years now so this sort of just the contuation. (And i guess culmination) of what has already been going on.
Yup. While it's interesting and informative to see this kind of thing dissected, it's hardly surprising.
True, but part of the problem is the ease of access and flooding of AI material. Even if the old content was exaggerated or outright fake, it was still steadily processed through some easily trackable body, be it a person or a company. But with AI, this content can flood sites in mere days without a clear origin. And that's not even getting into the possibility of impersonation or illegal material being created with AI (which has already happened in some respect).
Not to be a nerd, but I'm reminded of the Patriot AI in MGS2, where part of the problem it was meant to address was the flood of unfiltered information that no person could reasonably shift through. It feels like we're heading towards that very future.
@flarestorm9417 it's going to be really interesting so see what happens in the next few years almost a bit scary how close kojima was in predicting a post truth society
AI face tune is the ultimate
Upper Echelon has long since become an actual independend journalist, reporting on trends in media months and even sometimes years before MSM gets to them. I love his work.
Excellent work, indeed.
We must not forget that most UA-cam journalists are very dependent on the sources they use that actually did the research needed to figure these things out.
If we put too much emphasis on the people reporting what is happening, we may forget to support the institutions, organizations and research journalists that provide the information in the first place.
That is not to say that there aren’t any UA-camrs who do this type of research or that Upper Echelon never does. Just something to keep in mind.
@@KaisarHendrik It's also important to remember that we are all dependent on those sources doing their research properly, and not making stupid, or intentional, mistakes. Something which has been happening more and more. People reporting news, whether they are funded by giga-corporations and governments, or by their youtube viewers, are still subject to manipulated or flawed data.
William Gibson's 1996 novel _Idoru_ explores the virtual thirst trap phenomenon. 1996 -- almost 30 years ago. That's what real science fiction writers can do.
He describes what we now call an Instagram filter in Count Zero. In 1986.
Unbridled greed destroys everything it touches... time for social media... finally
Bridled greed is the key to capitalism's sustainability. We have seen that bridle slowly loosened by those in control for their own personal gain, at the expensive of the system's long term survival.
@Goodgu3963 Greed, if left unchecked, always ends up eating its own tail. Up to a certain point, greed drives people to innovate... but when they get enough money and power, they realize that buying the government and building monopolies to exploit people with impunity is a more profitable way.
@@veritaspk Plus, the powerful have built a system that promotes greed, uses it as a power source, sometimes throws bones to randoms, and always rewards those in charge of it.
As soon as a company by an independent is popular the globalith buys it up or it enters the betting market, at which point greed becomes its only life source, until it's a shell of its former self.
@@Goodgu3963Exactly. I like you, sir. You have a balanced take, which is rare nowadays.
Meta has done more damage to humans than sugar.
They actually deleted a pic with my shirt off. Im a DUDE... back in the day they were that strict. Same with Tjnder. My pics were deleted but now people can be half n*de and its all peaches n cream.
You underestimated the history of sugar.
It kills more people than the Black Plague.
Hey! Ain't nothing wrong with sugar.. Nectar of the gods!
@@JamesKennedy33 A lot of things are wrong with sugar... it's a most abused drug in the world.
@@godfingah It's not their fault if you have 'em thangs thangin'
So use a flesh colored background = boost in engagement from the algorithm.
8:19 the ankle has a toe. 😂
Underrated comment
It's just a string of material from the jeans hanging in a weird way, I thought the same at first.
I wish I was surprised that Meta would ban a journalist, but I'm not at all surprised.
They've been banning any legitimate journalistic outlets covering Ukraine or the middle-east for a long time now. They are basically just an extension of the Zionist lobby now I guess
The skynut has begun
Skynut or skynet...
@@Jokervision744 nut
Duck and cover eh.
@@Jokervision744 Definitely skynut
With TT800 "Thirst Trap" Terminators
"Surrogates" from 2009 with Bruce Willis.
I have never understood the value of Instagram. It makes zero sense to me why someone would use it. All of these algo driven platforms are trash. The content is great but they way they force us to browse is just bad all the way around.
It was great back in the day if you used it to view and take landscape, street, portraiture etc.
@@johnrodgers2018 Even in the olden days it was 90% pictures of sushi and frappuccino.
I started using Instagram in 2013, when I got interested in "phone photography". It was a fun way to take interesting pictures of your surroundings and things that interest you. Good looking pictures got you likes and follows and sometimes you even landed on the "explore page", giving you more exposure. All that just by having good photos and maybe some hashtags. That was the good time of Instagram. That changed abruptly and severly when they started not having a chronological feed anymore. Probably already before that, but yeah. It was good for a short time.
Now it's indeed just a cesspit of ads, regurgitated TikTok brainrot, AI slop and thirst traps.
Literally *years* ago it had good meme pages without having to use twitter or facebook but that has been long gone. Now even the meme pages are just thirst trapping.
@@L233233 depended who you followed, and what hashtag you looked at. And there was way less adds. I stopped using it when every third image was an add
I'm all for this. It might put an end to the concept of Influencer as a career.
To be fair, all the "real" influencers with content such as that might as well also be just npcs...
AI will unemploy them, which is karmic justice.
Lol AI probably has more personality compared to a IG influencer 😂.
I think a vast portion of the terminally online literally don't care if a thirst trap is AI generated or not, because a real Instagram model is actually less likely to give them what they want than an AI.
I've been an MGS cosplayer for almost 10 years now, never got more than 40+ likes on average for my photos- I tried checking the algorithm by posting a pic of a female cosplayer doing my same character and instantly got 100+ likes and a few followers from it...
I stopped giving a shit afterwards and realized no one really cares what I do as a man on the Internet.
*as a man in general*
As another man, you already know this though. Nobody cares about how we feel or what we want.
70% of suicides are white men.
Dead internet theory.
It's no longer a theory.
"Ye best start believin' in Dead Internet Theories miss Turner. Yer in one!"
dead internet *Fact* , actually
Whenever I see someone post this quote, I know there's at least one more human out there besides me. Hello fellow human 🙂👍
Skynet 🤖
I just looove the giraffe clip at the end of every informative video..
All you can do is appreciate the times when scrolling social media was a still image glimpse into what your friends/family and favorite celebrities were up to. Now it's just a tornado of video ads and bot spams.
'Favorite celebrities....' I hate all celebrities. Try again.
I wish youtube would stop recommending me ai music. I keep hitting do not recommend channel but theres so many they just keep popping up. It's getting really annoying.
I've noticed similar videos of songs where people are using AI to extend them as they're too lazy to do it themselves. That's just beyond talentless.
Or that new stupid "◇Ask" tab under videos. I'm so sick of useless AI "features" being shoved down my throat
All AI content should be marked as such by law - with an AI logo.
And there needs to be an opt-out filter! 🥸
And look at all the traffic interacting with it spamming emojis and simple statements. It's literally just bots interacting with bots. How is anyone making money off this again ?
The people making AI detection softwere?
very easy. proceeded interation and likes = money. you heard about adverstisement havent you? precisely like that.
Advertisers duped into thinking the engagement is real have their money dished out to influencers on the platform. If the advertisers pull out the system hopefully falls apart.
@@redaxecat9206 not gonna happen. consider Bots thrives on platform that doesnt require an ID. than theres the fact that Bots bin gradually getting smarter. meaning this current echo system the platform itself will go bankrupt or sued to oblivion because of this.
Simple, that money is coming from us. Bot developers make money from platforms for driving ad traffic. Platforms make money buy selling advertising space to advertising companies. Advertising companies make money buy selling their services of setting up and managing directed advertising to companies. Companies make money by selling products or services to you. Sometimes platforms are also advertising companies, and there are also databrokers which buy data from companies and sell it to advertisers.
The ultimate problem is that advertising works. Paying for advertising a shitty product produces a greater return than putting that money into making the product better. Whether these companies see these results in their own data, or whether they are just being told so by advertising companies i'm not sure. However the ultimate problem is that we as humans both tolerated insane numbers of ads, and are susceptible to the psychological manipulation being used.
Bro it’s everywhere and I’m tired of it, at the best it feels forced at worst it worsens whatever application it’s being used for
This is a good thing. People should not make money from being influencers. That whole thing needs to go away!
All the talk of AI, the one thing that everyone ignores about AI taking jobs is... what happen when their are not enough people to buy stuff??? Or for Governments to Tax. Without money to buy productions the Robots don't need to make anything. All jobs service a need, when people can't buy the service then you don't even need those AI robots. The current economy won't function. Even giving people Universe Basic Income doesn't work without people being Taxed. Will governments force company's using AI or Robots to pay taxes as if they were human's doing the same jobs? Each Robot or AI service will need to be Tax like a wage otherwise their will be a massive financial collapses. This might be part of the managed decline govements are preping for
It'd be hilarious if the bots competing with bots wound up being all that's left.
I think a key result that's yet to be resolved is legal tests.
They are already pushing out ai OF models, which is cutting into real women’s al..lol
That's a thing already. Why would you pay a model when you can just generate one?
@@nocturnalverse5739 I prefer to support real people 🤷
It will be and can only be addressed with digital IDs, the problem with those......... Well, oh boy... where do I even start...
Edit: it will become worse before it becomes better...
I am oldish will probably be dead in 10 years. I dont care if people know my name on social media. Say stupid, sometimes ignorant things- whatever. I do feel.sorry.for my adult kids and their children. Would be interesting if i could get to 2050 to see what happens, but doubt it
Oh man that would create a fantastic black market of fake IDs and I'd hop right on there and get rich as hell
Never used Instagram, and now I'm thankful that I was never interested in it.
I left instagram like 2019 or so because so many other goth people i followed turned into walking OF advertisements. I think social media is half bots, half pr0n content and I'm not even a prude, its just annoying to see it constantly when i dont interact with that content at all.
The "women" on Instagram have not been "real" for a long time.
Almost all the photos are distorted by so much make-up, special angles, filters, photoshop, etc. that if you met these women in real life you probably would not recognise them. If they get sprayed with a hose first, then you definitely would not recognise them.
Boys growing up on the internet barely even know what a natural woman even looks like. Removing the base human from the process is the next logical step.
Women made themselves obsolete. As much as some complain about unattainable beauty standards, the others put a lot of effort into using deceptive means to raise those standards to a point higher than any human is capable of competing with.
But men will be the ones blamed for the womens behaviour.
I put it to you that the "human" content had already been well drowned out long before bots came on the platform. Nobody on there was ever an actual human living their real life in public. They were always just photoshoots of lives being photoshopped into idealistic oblivion. Nothing has changed.
To be honest the alteration thing isn't exactly new, it's the next logical step after the overuse of make up and later filters and Photoshop.
One of the reasons I never liked Instagram was that it pushed the idea of "perfect", perfect face, perfect body, perfect vacation, perfect relationship, perfect life.
Also I find thirst trap stupid, it's two steps down from softcore Corn, just show me the real thing.
Fuck AI and fuck social media, we're living in dystopia
Rule #1: There are no women on the internet.
Rule #2: See Rule #1.
I've despised the social media mindset for years now. Even just people taking someone else's video, putting that stupid white background and their own caption, like its their video. Go find me something truly original on social media and I will be truly shocked. I just never thought that the first original content renaissance in years would be crapped out on a stretcher by an unnervingly inhuman, mindless AI. Cancer eating cancer.
UA-cam is a form of social media...
Originality was always about half obscurity. The fact that you can see all the inspirations breaks the illusion.
Of course, freebooting is still abhorrent.
@13:00 I disagree that YT should remove that "how to" video, instead it should excessively promote it so people can educate themselves on how to spot the trend, because lets face it - there will be places where people wanting to exploit that trend can get access to the know-how anyway
What's going to happen in 10 years, when the kids entering puberty today hit adulthood and have no idea what an actual real woman looks like?
We take our daughter outside. She also definitely won't have social media before puberty, lol. Who the fuck in their right mind would let their kid on social media. /rhetorical
Well, In the US at least, even real women don't look like real women anymore so....
@@nocturnalverse5739 Hey, how old is your daughter? And how difficult has it been to keep her away from social media so far? I've got a son on the way and I'd like to hear other parents experiences and methods for keeping them away from social media and smart devices in general.
I didn't see the appeal of social media then, nor now.
Or an actual man for that matter. By now, absolutely bat shit crazy unreachable "beauty" standards are pushed to boys just as hard as they are pushed to women. Steroid use in male teens is climbing REALLY fast. Surgery is getting more commonplace (e. g. have your jaw broken to become more manly); and while men aren't taught to be "slim" to be sexy, they are being taught to be lean and get below 12% body fat. All sexes and genders are completely mind f*'ed by the beauty machine.
_There are still people on instagram?_
"today in sick, sad world"....
Prove that you are a human (captcha) in order to view the bot's "content". 21st century, good job everyone.
I don't see the problem with all these websites and services crashing and burning off the weight of their own pushes for this technology.
I can't wait to see AI turn into the thing of the past like NFT. I am so sick of it.
It won't so long as corpos and the military want it.
It won't. NFTs never had any true utility, as it was an attempt to provide physical rarity to a digital good. Who cares if you have the first edition of a digital item if you can perfectly replicate said item with ease? But with AI, it actually has a lot of utility. Be it generating assets to save/money, moderating chats with AI, making fake people to scam others, etc. I doubt it will go away.
AI has a lot of utilities. People actually used them. NFTs are nothing but cash grabs.
@@flarestorm9417 This. AI, unlike NFT, has utility.
I myself created couple of chrome extensions (for work) with help of AI, and I don't even know how to program.
Jensen: AI is worth trillions
one element that you may want to consider is that people don't value anything anymore. Art, music, film, writing, poetry, photography, it's all just "content". It's consumable slop that no one assigns any value to, largely thanks to obfuscating the value of such things with ad-supported and subscription models and to massive multi-billion dollar studios treating their IPs as just that and selling it as such. People aren't going to care if something is hand made, or human made, or even made with any sort of vision because it means nothing to them these days. I hate that AI now exists to do all of these uniquely human things.
The problem is the content isn’t good either, it’s just there’s so much the easiest option is to just accept it.
Couldn't have laid it out better than this comment right here
Dude that segway into the advertisement was so clean
This is why I deleted instagram years ago. It’s all ai or people edited so much that it might as well be ai generated
Another reason for me to NEVER post images of my body online. I've been advising younger women to never post selfies in public for years, the AI stuff is making me do so even more intensely. The thought of someone just stealing pictures of my body and swapping out my face is so disgusting, the "AI undressing" tools too, unbelievably uncomfortable. It feels like a violation in a way I don't even have the language to express yet. For influencers you're a little insulated because it's not personal, you're revealing yourself on purpose because it makes money, but this is still an extremely skeevy use of the images people produce in a way they didn't intend, literally stealing someone's likeness to make money off of their body. It drives me nuts that anyone thinks this is okay.
Please keep making videos like this. I'm sending this to everyone I know
Instagram is just a softcore corn app.
You mean 'porn'? Stop self censoring. People like you are part of the reason the internet is garbage now.
I love all of these people complaining that social media is a cesspool as if humanity itself isn't the REAL cesspool.
W consistency
This might be the turning point where we start ditching social media. Putting your face on the internet is too dangerous now.
It literally is. I’ve deleted all of it but UA-cam. I tried everything to make it work but ultimately I’ve just accepted I’m
Better off without. The disconnect is far too great the platforms have put short term profits over everything else.
Nothing of value was lost
A few years ago I said "today marks a terrifying day, AI is the best it's ever been, and the worst it will ever be" in reference to Will Smith eating spaghetti.
6 months ago... I said the same thing regarding Sora. The video software that could make fantastic videos based on a prompt.
Today I say it, in regards to the fact that there are less than 10 billion people in the world. But in a year, there will be over 100 billion profiles. All engagement will be fake. Less than 1% of random online encounters will be with real people. It will be essentially impossible to do anything on the internet.
Today is the best AI has ever been, and the worst it will ever be. And that should be terrifying.
The last point about messaging the real human that their photos are stolen - this happened to my friend group before when we found out one of us as catfishing another guy. Messaged the guy about this issue, they couldn't care less
Dead Internet Theory has become all but fact at this point
That tech is just wild. I would rather fight the Terminators than this stupid AI takeover.
Too many coomers on the internet for platforms like that to make any changes..
still trying to figure what good AI actually does
basically if its publicly available then its bad
The earlier pattern recognition machine learning has potential for things like medical diagnosis. The generative stuff mostly seems to have bad uses, other than simpler uses like improved text to speech or translation. Other things with potential, like creating artificial images that aren't pretending to be real, for small uses where you can't pay to have it made by a person, is spoiled by the way it plagiarizes actual artists work without credit or pay. Those could be redeemed by having them trained on sources that are licensed in a way similar to stock photos.
@@burchified Nah F- that. I'd much rather it be open-source than in the hands of a few corporations.
This is why I quit everything social media and Google a year ago except for UA-cam and WhatsApp and I'm happier for it.
We also have people digging up new pieces from Chopin and Mozart beating out living composers for performance time.
Us alive are here to feed the unalive. Weird times...
I think we would probably be better off without the human element in this case. I think having the human element has only been a detriment to society, so i wouldnt exactly be sad to see Instagram models go away, or atleast lose their influence. It is similar to say that Ai is ruining the porn industry... should i be heartbroken that women are losing a possible career route? Geuss they will have to develop an actual skillset.
I left Facebook and Instagram in 2017 i used to post my digital art(hobby) but my feed was full of influencers always hanging out in "interesting" places i was so depressed that i felt like i wasnt interesting so i left social media am now way better
good that site breeds narcissim
The plot of mgs 2 was more realistic than anyone realized were literally living in it
Interesting that what happened to graphic and music artists is now happening to real human beings. First they feed the thing with our craft, now they feed it with our personalities.
Any oppinions on adversarial software? Like glaze or nightshade?
As some people have already pointed out, the economics of this is fascinating. If we draw this out to its natural conclusion, we have AI content profiles interacting with AI engagement profiles increasing to the limit of 100%. Given that neither of these entities are able to add value(ie pay for products in advertising), as we approach that limit, the tools will get less and less effective, as the resource pool gets progressively(statistically) shrunk to 0. Eventually, meta will be left with an advertising evaluation so low that they will either need to close down the service (incredibly unlikely) or will need to take an active role in addressing the AI problem.
This kinda reminds me of an invasive species in a lake. If no-one does anything, it can kill off the good fishing population, which kills tourism of the lake.
Last week my Sony Xperia decided to upgrade itself without any questions and installed Gemini on my phone, swapped unlock button into gemini shortcut, making in impossible to turn off my screen, i had to disable it manually deep into the settings but before I was able to disable it, I had answer some questions to fully finish my setup with gemini. Now I can't even uninstall the app or even hide it in menu. Hate all the ai bullshit. Hopefully it will bite it's own tail soon
Dead Internet Theory goes BRRRRR. It's honestly wild that all these tech companies don't realise how this could (and likely will) eventually backfire on them. Once real people can't make something off their own work, they'll disappear, and we'll end up with only AI produced content, and in time I presume the audience for such content is just going to shrink until these platforms are overrun with AI content, with almost nobody to consume it, and when there are no consumers there is no income. At that point, how long would social media last when the human users are grossly outnumbered by AI accounts? AI doesn't work regular jobs, it doesn't have money to spend, it doesn't consume content in such a way as to generate ad revenue like a human does (at least I presume it doesn't), and it does push plenty of people away from said platforms who would/could generate revenue for it.
Humanity survived without social media before, and push come to shove I don't think we'll miss it as much as we think we might if we get pushed out by AI. Though I feel that if Social Media collapses, it wouldn't be too much longer before we see the shockwaves of it ripple through places like Twitch and UA-cam, platforms that saw their growth boom due to social media and might not be anywhere near the level they are at today without it (not that they aren't going through their own issues lately either).
You have to edit things for IG to be fun. Words to avoid: Model, FYP, etc.
I use instagram regularly and had no idea this issue existed, may have something to do with the fact that I hide/report thirst traps and stick to viewing memes and model kit content
You are an AMAZING researcher 💯
If this forces people off the internet and meeting people in real life again - just like in the old days - so be it
Seems im ahead of the trend again, I ditched all social media 3 years ago. Mental health has never been better
If we can take the "human" out of human content, and people still eat it up, you have to wonder if we ever actually valued the human aspect in the first place.
great research as usual! thank you!
To be fair to AI, it knows how to generate a proper pair of titz,
7:13 will return some day
When you thought Instagram couldn't become even more fake...
If this leads to collapse of social media, I'd say it's a good thing
SimOne is now here. It only took 22 years to make the movie a reality.
I have found changing the content sensitivity settings to their lowest cuts out a lot of the thirst traps and general hobaggery 👍
I found by stopping using these sites, all these things went away. Funny that
I would only suggest that Instagram NEVER had 'Human' Content. Everything on Instagram is a contextualized narrative, rarely if ever reflecting the truth in the life on display. That IS the business model.
That’s deep bro
@@zjsz4954 Thanks! I have my moments.
if it never had human content than it woudve never bin a buisness in the first place buddy. no buisness operates that out of truth and truth is subjective if it isnt lawful established. Instagram exist because it provides as an open platform for an unregulated advertisement. People wants to see pretty lies and outrage. this isnt a conspircay whatsoever. if youn dont like it than dont use it, it is that simple.
@@dendrien cool story next time read what someone says before dissagreeing he's saying the content posted by actual humans isn't human content it isnt actual lives it's facades created to give the appearance of a certain life he didnt make the point that there never were humans neither did he say he doesn't like it
In future when your big brain moments start first read the whole comment see what it is about and then respond instead of attacking 2 points he said nothing about
Thanks for exposing.
Slowly becoming like the game “The Last Worker”.
Thanks for what you do
Don't need a study to figure out Instagram is trash.
Ai will kill human ingenuity and artistic ability. Thanks for nothing silicon valley.
Bet they used A.I. algorithm for the calculations in the study.
Also i sad to inform you that image at 8:20 is completely AI generated, look at the numbers on seats more closely, they not in the correct order and the farther ones have dots instead of numbers on them.
While SDXL would have some troubles with such image, Flux will not, it can handle eligable text pretty well.
I legit think you should be presenting this to Congress.
Don't use ANY social media. You are not forced to and you don't have to. 99% on content is auto-generated .. you are just wasting your life.
These accounts are also now mass liking comments. So, I may suddenly receive 4 likes on a series of comments over time for a single creator on IG. I think it's to play on people's curiosity. "Who's the person who liked my comments?" and then you look at their profile and start following. I don't follow any actual people-based profiles on IG, just some artists and crafts so I wouldn't do this but I bet you ANYTHING this predatory behavior WORKS.
We're gonna go through some tumultuous times with AI and this kind of thing, but give it a single human generation and it will be about as common and accepted as anything else. Makes me feel a bit uneasy, to be honest. People always say AI can't create anything new, but really...that is not going to matter at all, especially with stuff like this.
From "dead internet theory" to dead internet practice!
The ad ribbon while I was watching this video is literally for generating AI voices
those ai pictures are nightmare fuel.
When I needed to buy a new phone, I got an older model that didn't have AI because so much of it is shoved in now. I do not want it
I would be surprised if this wasn't just as bad on OF. Difficulty of tracking it there is the cost to acquire the material to compare it.
I cant use instagram anymore. Most my female friends have pre-teen kids. They post pictures of their kids. Instagrams just assumed that that's the kind of content I enjoy. When I open the Explore on insta it's all those thirst trap pics but for R.Kelly. Disgusting and troubling.