Not really.. honestly idk why people just suddenly drew the line with NewJeans and acted like this is a totally new thing that's never been done before, lots of guy and girl groups had kids at 15 and 16 debuting way before them.
It's funny how we normalise this . As a teacher it is very concerning when they look up to these idols. Age and physical appearance the entire thing is so stressful on teenagers growing up who want to be like them but don't know the half of it. Thank you for putting this out there . We need more of this.
I'm also a teacher and I completely agree. I was a former dancer as a kid and up till like college. I still support the performing arts but I went through eating disorders and so many body issues that girls don't even realize the consequences of sadly. I enjoy kpop but it concerns me with some of their ages as well.
And I known how bad kpop is since I was their age. No one forced them into the industry. Especially since most of the members were already known/famous before debuting because they had child careers like modeling. So they knew and they still continued to achieve their dreams. That’s how bad they wanted it
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Just look at kids in the west doing worst than just wearing crop top and shorts . Ppl acting like asian teens are innocent or teens in general. They're not . Even if they debut older they'll still be sexualized by nasty men and women. I'll just support em cuz they're doing what they love . I think ppl who thinks they debut too young are the ones sexualizing them .
Kpop Industry is so problematic in so many different ways. I genuinely hope more people regonize that instead of just simping because the idols are so visually attractive.
Kpop is a fad so it will eventually die out like all fads do. K-pop has been around for decades, it's not new at all. People are only interested in it or pretending to be because they want to be a part of what's popular and current. Gangnam Style came out pretty much 10 years ago and everyone didn't obsess over Kpop then, they just liked that one song. Because that one song was popular, and they weren't really interested in that kind of music. Kpop is popular to Americans in the same way that Japan is, just in a trendy way but they don't really care about the culture.
@@amber619pop something tells me you’re definitely an American. You have that bubble mindset where you think that the west = the world. Even if the “fad” dies in the west, the K-pop industry will still be a huge corporation. Before it even became talked about in the west, it was still very popular all throughout Asia and other places. And will remain that way as it’s been for decades. So basically if and when it dies out in “the west” aka America nothing would change except your exposure to it. It’s toxicity will still be romanticized by all the other K-pop loving countries. You gotta remember the American audience is a lot smaller than most of the other international audiences. Meaning the K-pop industry will still have a huge market to sell its toxicity to.
This sudden obsession for young idols (practically kids) looking older than their age creeps me out. It’s like a way of finding a shortcut to simp over minors without people calling you out 😭
this skit hits soo hard. im 20 (turning 21 in a few months) and I see teenagers who look way more older and more mature than me. I'm like how tf are 16 year olds rich social media influencers traveling around the world, making music, modeling, doing fashion collabs, etc. like dayum I wish we just let kids be kids. social media is a disease
If kids want to do that, what is your problem? That you can't get that money at 21 even if you sell your whole self? That's called talent, quit being so bitter.
@@terrafluent4238 the point lmao,,,, it flew over your head. jeez why ad hominem right away? though, I get your sentiment. But the comment above said "i wish we let kids be kids" it's talking about the world forcing the kids to pursue industries early and grow up. Not necessarily directly, but also through propaganda or peer pressure or other things. Not about whether or not kids want to do it. kids should be allowed to express themselves, but there is a danger to kids (im 17 btw im kids) entering industries this early, especially since it's their formative years and industries have a lot of BS and exploitative BS (what the video this comment is on is about) and a lot of other junk. There's also plenty of haters and assholes everywhere, and in the wrong environment, it would be hard to cope with that.
"I'm like how tf are 16 year olds rich social media influencers traveling around the world, making music, modeling, doing fashion collabs, etc." >> That's what got over your head. A truly good intentioned person would say, let's make weekly mental health check ups mandatory for these children and make sure it's not a case of child labor.
1) Mental health check-ups will NOT help because exploitative job givers will just make the kids ace those tests as well no matter what, and children who have a genuine desire to be someone might screw up. 2) What's wrong with giving up mental or physical health for a dream? Teenagehood and especially childhood really are the best times to start at something because your body and mind are flexible, and when you're an adult you mostly only refine them. 3) "This is okay only if the child wants it". But what a person wishes in life is determined almost entirely by early upbringing and teenagehood emotional moments. Only really sharp strong experiences can change an adult's desire. That's the same thing as the body and mind flexibility. So if you bring the child up in a proper way, they will wish to be whatever you wish them to be :) IMPORTANT NOTE If you put all effort into making your child want to be a doctor and they don't want to be a doctor, it's either you who screwed up by not giving the right type of encouragement (right = the one that actually works and not the one that scares your kid), or it's the teenage experience of the child (less probable). Before you start typing: "BUT DISCOVERING YOURSELF IS WHAT MATTERS!!!!", think about this: What makes you up? What determines what kind of person you shall be? Your genes? Partially. Their role, the upbringing which suppresses them or makes them (the genes) express - all is unknown. Your soul? Get lost, that shit doesn't exist. Your most early experiences plus emotional moments from older age (the older you are, the more emotional these moments have to be to change you)? Most probably. Think of the conclusion yourselves :) It's pretty obvious :)))
I have never heard of this phenomenon. Can you give some example profiles, where the influences are 16-17 and actually doing this? I don't believe this
As I get older as a K-pop fan I still enjoy the music from newer groups but I wish that more companies debuted idols in their mid 20s and older, instead of thinking that they would be no longer attractive to the public. There are still successful idols in their thirties/forties promoting now, although they debuted a very long time ago and have built up loyal fanbases over the years.
For girls, yes totally. But for boys I think that the company’s goal is to get as many years before they have to go to the military, so it kind of makes sense why they would debut at like 16-18 ish?
Well how about the fact that before our generation and the current generation, that people in the entertainment industry used to be allowed to be in the spotlight in their 30s and 40s. If you look at movies from the 50s and 60s you can visibly see that the people are no younger than 30 years old. Especially in classic black and white films the entire movies are made up of all adults, unless the plot is about people who are college age or younger. Everyone knows what The Twilight Zone is, and that is a classic example of how the casting used to be back then. Imagine if the entire series of the Twilight Zone was made up of 21-year-olds, I doubt it would be as good..
For older K-pop artists to debut as “mature and adult-oriented” acts? Sure, I don’t see why not. As “youth-oriented” idols? Probably not the best bet since certain concepts are more likely to expire at certain ages. Just saying.
Petition to normalize people to debut at 18 and above, let them at least finish their highschool first and enjoy a normal life like other teenagers. There are many dropouts out there because they can't handle being both a student and trainee at the same time plus it is not healthy to have minors in this toxic industry. Thank you for making this video tho hope companies would realize this.
You may make them only to allow to debut at 18, but they will still recruit them at 12-13. They'll have 5-6 years to learn to be the best of the best. You need to raise the age limit to the time they are allowed to recruit the kids.
@@rtfirefly8092 true but isn't it better that way? you also be a trainee less 2 years but still really good but either ways i hope that companies would be less strict and organize the time so it's not gonna overwork the trainees.
Yeah I think it a good idea. At least they will be able to know some of normal life before become an idol. And they can be responsible for their own and their decisions. And those record companies won't use them so easily. Which I'm sure they do with the younger trainees. Kids are not so aware of legal and financial issues so they are easier to convince to anything, long time contracts, less salary and many other stuff.
get rid of age discrimination and let idols and stuff perform til they want and suddenly all problems solved. agree. let people finish high-school and have some education if things fall through. if people debut older, that groomed mentality of young young idols start to shift... and longevity will prevail. it's not a hard shift.. that benefits everyone- putting no cap on age. but industry doesn't want loyalty.. they want fast molding and expiry dates= endless supply
I got introduced to K-pop with Shinee’s Lucifer and was shocked to learn Taemin was 16 years old and had debuted at 14 🤯 Years later he talker’s d about how he hadn’t wanted to debut that young and missed out on important life milestones 😢.
@@JetteSwan not having friends your age is sadly common among idols who debuted young in their teens... there are other idols who have also mentioned not having any friends their age/not having many friends outside of their idol group
Thank you!!!! This needed to said. I have students who say "age is just a number..." To which I respond, "Only if all parties are legal adults." If you're a child under 18, then age absolutely matters, and we need to stop sexualizing children. I KNOW it isn't just Kpop , but thanks for calling it out.
Ironic how everyone was upset when Netflix released that movie "Cuties" because they were all children, but when it's in music it's perfectly acceptable.
ador released a statement explaining the meaning behind the song. baking cookies is supposed to be a metaphor for burning CDs. they're just singing about making their music and how much effort they put behind it
Its not so much the community, its more of the companies themselves, but if ppl are looking at the kpop groups in the wrong way, then yes, that is concerning
actually about the joke about really young trainees, this actually happens like lightsum's juhyeon joined cube ent when she was TEN and the company SCOUTED her like it wasnt her initial decision they really came to a 10 yr old and said join our company
and it is messed up. the scout is a person that finds kids attractive. that's thr only examination.. normal people don't find kids attractive like that.. it's messed up thrb ore you think about it.
@@npcimknot958 bruh what whats wrong with thinking a kid is pretty im a kid i think my friends are pretty and attractive whats wrong with that????????1?1?1?
i genuinely love newjeans' music and the members are very lovable, but it does concern me how young hyein is... ik ppl say it's the life she chose but even tho she wanted to be an idol is it really okay to have someone born in 2008 debuting like this,,,, i'm aware past idols like taemin have also debuted at 14 but that doesn't mean it's ok... taemin even has talked about how he felt like he missed out on teenage experiences debuting so young
It's a little weird to see a girl my age look older than me and be in this industry. If with the pandemic I already lost important experiences that I would like to live, imagine what it would be like if I were working. Especially if that job is singing and dancing while being watched by adults? That sounds kinda creepy
Even in the past when kids debuted that young, it was still wrong but at *least* they had some older folks that they could lean on and trust, not just other kids their age
@@lemonatet ye like it’s itzy, Yuna debuted at 15 but her unnies Lia and Yeji were already nearing 20 so that’s fine, the oldest member of NewJeans is literally 18, just entered adulthood.
"because we debut newjeans our new boy group is gonna be called new borns" I'M DYING on a serious note, well said. i can't begin to imagine how toxic kpop standards have become at this point.
BoA debuted at 13 years old, Taemin at 14 years old just like her, Jungkook at 15 so it was always like this and I can say many more who debuted at a young age. It's not okay however the girls have already debuted. The only thing to do is ask the company that they have songs that wouldn't give dirty minded people other ideas. Although it's good to bring awareness about kpop idols debuting young, only taking Newjeans as an example as if it was the newest and most shocking thing is beyond me. And for people who are uncomfortable when looking at them because they're older than them then I must ask how did they feel when Taemin, Jungkook, Krystal debuted and how they looked at them. The other excuse they bring up is "at least there were older members in the group". That doesn't change the fact that the member in question is still young. Where was this enthusiasm for these other idols ? But I guess better late than never smh. So yeah if people wanna talk about an issue do it fairly and say and recognize the fact that it has been happening for years... And I must ask how is sexualizing idols the way people do okay just because the member is 18-20 or smthg ? Like some creeps waiting for an idol to hit 18 to start talking about nasty things over them. They would just be sitting and a lot of you guys would be "omg the way they're breathing is" or comments like "my ovaries. I want x to have my babies" etc like they're some sex objects to fantasize on assuming they wouldn't be uncomfortable while looking at those comments because "they're of age. They're not babies/innocent. It was expected of them. It comes with the job" The hypocrisy...
I wish I could like this video 100 times. Really happy to see this being addressed. Here are some lyrics from their song cookie: "If you want it, you can get it, if you want it", "(Keep) looking at my cookie" "taste it" "Take it, don't break it, I wanna see you taste it", "Sugar, I got sugar" Their management addressed it and said its an innocent song about "baking cookies with fans". Lets play the devils advocate here, if its about baking cookies, why is it always referring to one singular "cookie" and not "cookies"? Why do they refer to "boy" multiple times in the song? And another thing, they said their debut songs follow a storyline. So okay, attention is about having a crush on someone and looking for their attention. Then hype boy, which is about the beginning puppy love in a relationship. And then cookie is about "baking cookies for fans". And then Hurt is about the break up. yeah, that totally makes sense. Their management is not only filled with pedophiles, they also think we're stupid enough to fall for any of this. Poor girls.
Also how long can you stick your head in the sand and just pretend that cookie isn’t slang for vagina 😬 because it is. That’s just the disgusting truth.
as a 22 years old, accidentally into kpop cause mamamoo and i love old group. so I find psy, uhm jung hwa, rain, Jessie, boa more catchy, attractive and cool
You’re so right that it’s always been this way. Taemin debuted super young, Jessica and Krystal were scouted when they were tweens. The pattern is really apparent.
You forgot Jung kook... He was debuted with bts since 15 years old, BoA also already made a soloist debut and saved SM from bankruptcy since 13 years old. Kpop industry was really not that healthy, that's what the point of concerns
@@aiskasalsabila2221 the point is , before when two - three idols in a group were 14-15 , the rest of the members were adults for example in bts , jk was 15 but the oldest jin was 20 , old enough to take care of other members, on other hand new jeans oldest member is just 18 just entered adulthood
@@superstar-su7fg Let’s be honest JK got really, REALLY lucky that those guys raised him well He could easily have been turned into a monster, Seungri also debuted at 15
Their songs are absolute bangers, but I have to actively ignore the lyrics to enjoy them completely. I also felt very conflicted when I first started listening to Stray Kids since I'm older than all of them. ☠️
as a girl high schooler nwjs stan it was so uncomfy knowing that hyein was younger than me and seeing that vid of the middle aged man looking so in love with them at the fanmeet was so creepy
thanks so much for raising awareness to something so important while staying true to your channel! trainees just get younger and younger. k-pop idols are often fetished, especially the females since they’re sexualized more. it’s not right. literally, there are videos on the internet of girls twirling in concerts as slowed GIFs. It’s something serious that people need to realize.
this was really well done. i keep thinking about this topic because the members of newjeans aren't far from my age. i like them and think they're talented and would love their concept if not for the fact that they are so young, are being set out as bait for older men, and that cookie song. apparently cookie is a slang term? i didn't know that and i could still tell that the song was sexual as all hell. i'm dense as a brick wall. you gotta be pretty obvious to get to me. as a younger kpop fan, i sometimes like seeing idols my age because it gives me something to aspire to, i guess? it's inspiring seeing kids my age sort of achieve their dreams. but that hope/inspiration is juxtaposed with the terrible knowledge that they are being exploited, or that even if they're not being mistreated by their companies they're still now in an industry that will exploit them and use them--if not directly through the company (which are already exploiting them for their youth), then by "selling" them to old AND young creeps that view them as objects rather than as people. i don't know if this even made sense lmao
As much as I want to stan New Jeans because of the buzz around their music it just feels wrong to do so. It's weird cause there was such prominent discussion around this when the survival show "My teenage Girl" was airing but now it's nowhere to be found. Not only New Jeans but CLASS:y too. In addition, there are some people who are saying that these young girls should be allowed to follow their passion disregarding how the kpop industry is gonna treat them. Especially with girls these young in an industry that has such toxic diet standards we are just waiting for mental health issues
and the fans who knows it's the company but still support the groups bc "the idols don't deserve the hate" is what makes this continues to happen. companies will still debut and promote bc after a while fans will come back to support cuz "the idols shouldn't sacrifice their success bc of the company" and it's a vicious cycle
Thanks for covering this. I must admit I vibe with all of New Jeans' songs, and Cookie as well. I actually want to say that Cookie is a really cool and catchy song, but yeah, since it's sung by a bunch of 14 year olds, it really sounds wrong. And I'm glad you're mentioning this, cause I've seen a lot of people on the internet defending the song with comments like "Westerners have a dirty mind, they only see dirty bad stuff where there is none" or "guys, there is a lot of mistranslation in those lyrics, so don't take it too seriously" or "the cookie is their CD, duh, cause it's round"... uhh, okay. So I'm glad you see it the way you describe it in the video.
lol 100 western mind is not even close to how dirty Asian minds are. 🤣 hello Japan 😆 koreas darkweb of cp.. trust.. Asia below the surface is more manic and dirty than the west
"The cookie is their CD" was the absolute worst excuse for those lyrics that they could have come up with. And the translation came from their company, so the company knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
Respect to you for using your platform to vocalize an important issue. The comedy was great as always. Your underlying message was clear though. Thank you for speaking up a bit about the dark side of the Kpop industry, and any entertainment industry.
I hope you continue to make these kinds of videos, i really like the concept Seriously I am also disappointed to know that they almost debuted in their childhood.
The fact that they're trainees and they're 6. Like, your main concern at that age should be trying to stay awake later than 9 pm and watching TV for five more minutes, so on, so forth.
High school in some countries is from grade 7-12 (e.g. Australia). The effect is still the same. If I hear "Highschool" I'm going to think "13-18yr olds"
@@qwmx I think 14-17 but yeah. 18 ish top I guess cause that’s when you graduate (I graduated two weeks after my 18th birthday cause I’m on the younger side) but if we’re going with Korean standards, she’s in 8th grade and there is still another year left. It’s technically Junior “high” yes but they call it essentially “middle school”
I was a 12 years old stanning a bunch of 24-30 years old dudes and now I'm 23 years old stanning those 34-40 years old dudes. Companies should stop debuting minors when there are a lot of skilled adult trainees who WILL attract fans given they're promoted well or have good skills.
thanks for talking about this. i remember when newjeans debuted everyone was like "omg they're so young! this is wrong!" but then quickly got over it and starting stanning them. like bruh, its still wrong, why r u supporting them now. like, i get the kids probably had little to no choice in the matter, and yes their music is good, but promoting and following the band just shows their management that its acceptable for them to subject these children to this bc kpop stans enjoy it. and ik this has been a problem in the industry for a long time but when does it end? they keep getting away with it bc we keep fueling their careers. kids deserve to just be kids and experience normal childhoods, not be scrutinized or sexualized over every move they make. this kind of stuff is already really damaging to older kpop artists' mental and physical health. just think about how it must affect these kids whose brains and bodies are still developing. there's a reason why child labor laws exist agh. okay, rant over. sorry, this kind of thing just really pisses me off, and i needed to get that off my chest.
Totally agree, it's revolting I've seen many stans complain how "their poor idols are so mistreated by the company, so they have to support them"... Like, what? Don't they see they are supporting the company as well? I think the industry promotes that image of the idols, like, showing how much they exhaust themselves practicing, starve themselves...and let the people put the blame on the company because it will move fans to pity and support the group 🤦🏻♀️ it's really messed up Oh, and don't forget, this kind of comments we are doing is "hating behavior", we're just " jealous of their success" 💀
THAT WAS A HARD SPILL AND MY EXACT THOUGHTS k-pop stans are hypocrites they'll eat up everything once it appeals to them not looking into what their behaviour is doing to those children.
This is my favourite video of yours. It brings attention to a very important subject. I watched the clip of New Jeans singing that cookie song and was creeped out.
Debuting people really young has been so normalized that anyone 18-27 is considered "old" or even "ancient", when in fact its much better - for several reasons - to have ADULTS debut instead of minors.
I will say that I liked NewJeans debut up until they released "Cookie." The lyrics and imagery of "Attention" and "Hype Boy" are more age appropriate and fun, and I found them refreshing and interesting. "Cookie" creeped me out, and I really wondered what the company was thinking for that one.
This gives the same energy as, "Oh, I'm a hands-off, presenter pimp. If someone sleeps with the underage human, they're the problem not me. I only present the package. My hands are totally clean."
His point reminded me of the fact that only elementary/middle/high schoolers are chosen to save the world from otherworldly/magical devastation. That's right anime I'm looking at you!
Spilling facts as always!! And also the idols they miss their own normal teenage life which is kinda sad ! And teens set standard of BEAUTY TO THEM WHATEVER ITS KINDA MESSED UP
I love the way you take the initiative and spreading awareness about this matter. Keep doing the great work. 👏K-pop is actually damaging kids nowadays, sad truth, this hype is not good...
it’s sad because nwjns isn’t even the first instance of this happening in the kpop industry. idols have debuted at 14-15 for many years now and they’ll probably continue to do so. when nwjns debuted, i like everyone else liked their music because it’s really catchy and nice to listen to, but i certainly felt uncomfortable listening to cookie. i’m only 20 years old myself but because i know how these girls will be viewed from their "older fans" inevitably it makes me want to vomit. i’m simply worried for them. there was an instance short after their debut when during their fan sign event, there was an old man who was a "fan" of them...
They treat 30+ people as if they were so old they can't do anything and they asumme people wouldn't pay attention to them because they would be boring. I think what brings me attention to a kpop group is their music and concepts not their age 😐 When I discovered how old NewJeans members were I got very uncomfortable, specially after listening to cookie because I'm the same age as youngest member, so yeah...I can't imagine how they study and work at the same time because I already struggle A LOT with school.
The bit with the pregnancy made me laugh. On that note, it reminded me a bit of MAMADOL, the members were "moms who were stars but had to leave the entertainment industry". It's just a shame they disbanded after the final episode of the reality TV show they were in instead of actually pursuing it (the contract probably forced their hand, though I'm curious if any of them wanted to actually stay). It would be nice if motherhood/fatherhood (and maybe even relationships and marriage, but that seems to be too much for the rampant parasocial relationships in KPOP) was what was normalized in the industry and not... idols debuting before they even turn 16
"Nobody cares about 35 year olds"
"I like 35 year olds"
"Well yeah, you're a nobody so it makes sense" 💀💀
What about psy
@@christinaweston5313 they're talking about groups not individuals.
@@pijushnaiya9211 i became a fan of suju after most of them already reached 35... but im also a nobody so :/
Me, who is a SNSD and BigBang stan:😶
I'm gonna be 35 in 6 years
kpop back then: oppa!!! noona!!!
kpop now: *visibly uncomfortale*
Exactly! 😩😩😩
dongsaeng!! lmao
@@liagamer4265 i frel bad about laugjing
And people wonder why there are so many pedophiles now in existence compared to before.
Not really.. honestly idk why people just suddenly drew the line with NewJeans and acted like this is a totally new thing that's never been done before, lots of guy and girl groups had kids at 15 and 16 debuting way before them.
It's funny how we normalise this . As a teacher it is very concerning when they look up to these idols. Age and physical appearance the entire thing is so stressful on teenagers growing up who want to be like them but don't know the half of it. Thank you for putting this out there . We need more of this.
I'm also a teacher and I completely agree. I was a former dancer as a kid and up till like college. I still support the performing arts but I went through eating disorders and so many body issues that girls don't even realize the consequences of sadly. I enjoy kpop but it concerns me with some of their ages as well.
Agreed
They did pick the life they wanted they know what’s coming
But they're too young to fully realize what that entails? Hello?
And I known how bad kpop is since I was their age. No one forced them into the industry. Especially since most of the members were already known/famous before debuting because they had child careers like modeling. So they knew and they still continued to achieve their dreams. That’s how bad they wanted it
What's weird is that when an idol debut at the age of 22 or 23 they are considered old 😶
Exactly, I literally saw a K-pop stan calling an 18 year old ancient💀
It goes way back. Irene was 23 when RV debuted, and even back then people commented she was "too old" to debut.
And in western pop it’s normal to get big from 18-27. 😂 I’m so uncomfortable about 12 year old pop stars.
Yes exactly and most of the time 22-23 year olds are the fresh out of college, generally younger people. Entertainment Industry is a scary place.
people calling sakura, yujin (kep1er) and irene hags when they’re not even old
All jokes aside, this is a really good way to bring attention to a serious topic. Well done.
jungkook debuted when he was 15 and he trained when he was 13, and don't get me started on g-drangon.
I- I shouldn't... GOT ME LOOKING FOR ATTENTIONNNNNNNNNN
agreed
Ike
The same with boystory
When the pregnant woman started dancing I fell on the floor laughing-💀💀
Literally💀😭
Pls I laughed so hard ,"I'm on the next lebel" 🤣😭😭😭😭
the kpop groups debuting are getting younger and younger💀💀
Soon I think a fetus will be debuting
@@sparkj0y well damn-
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Just look at kids in the west doing worst than just wearing crop top and shorts . Ppl acting like asian teens are innocent or teens in general. They're not . Even if they debut older they'll still be sexualized by nasty men and women. I'll just support em cuz they're doing what they love . I think ppl who thinks they debut too young are the ones sexualizing them .
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Kpop Industry is so problematic in so many different ways. I genuinely hope more people regonize that instead of just simping because the idols are so visually attractive.
Kpop is a fad so it will eventually die out like all fads do. K-pop has been around for decades, it's not new at all. People are only interested in it or pretending to be because they want to be a part of what's popular and current. Gangnam Style came out pretty much 10 years ago and everyone didn't obsess over Kpop then, they just liked that one song. Because that one song was popular, and they weren't really interested in that kind of music. Kpop is popular to Americans in the same way that Japan is, just in a trendy way but they don't really care about the culture.
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@@amber619pop nah it’s been there for 20+ years in Korea it’s hard unless sth happens
@@amber619pop something tells me you’re definitely an American. You have that bubble mindset where you think that the west = the world. Even if the “fad” dies in the west, the K-pop industry will still be a huge corporation. Before it even became talked about in the west, it was still very popular all throughout Asia and other places. And will remain that way as it’s been for decades. So basically if and when it dies out in “the west” aka America nothing would change except your exposure to it. It’s toxicity will still be romanticized by all the other K-pop loving countries. You gotta remember the American audience is a lot smaller than most of the other international audiences. Meaning the K-pop industry will still have a huge market to sell its toxicity to.
@@amber619pop "kpop has been around for decades" "kpop is a fad that will die out" make up ur mind lol
This sudden obsession for young idols (practically kids) looking older than their age creeps me out. It’s like a way of finding a shortcut to simp over minors without people calling you out 😭
I’m not implying that minors who look “older” than their age are the issue. It’s the creeps!
as if simping them 'because they look mature' is any better...
literally like kpop companies are not even trying to hide that their goal is to attract p*dos anymore, they know what they're doing
@@emeline02 mainly because they really tend to shell out money for merch.
I mean is it their fault that anyone latest since birthyear 2000s is a tiny giant?
this skit hits soo hard. im 20 (turning 21 in a few months) and I see teenagers who look way more older and more mature than me. I'm like how tf are 16 year olds rich social media influencers traveling around the world, making music, modeling, doing fashion collabs, etc. like dayum I wish we just let kids be kids. social media is a disease
If kids want to do that, what is your problem? That you can't get that money at 21 even if you sell your whole self? That's called talent, quit being so bitter.
@@terrafluent4238 the point lmao,,,, it flew over your head. jeez why ad hominem right away? though, I get your sentiment. But the comment above said "i wish we let kids be kids" it's talking about the world forcing the kids to pursue industries early and grow up. Not necessarily directly, but also through propaganda or peer pressure or other things. Not about whether or not kids want to do it.
kids should be allowed to express themselves, but there is a danger to kids (im 17 btw im kids) entering industries this early, especially since it's their formative years and industries have a lot of BS and exploitative BS (what the video this comment is on is about) and a lot of other junk. There's also plenty of haters and assholes everywhere, and in the wrong environment, it would be hard to cope with that.
"I'm like how tf are 16 year olds rich social media influencers traveling around the world, making music, modeling, doing fashion collabs, etc." >> That's what got over your head. A truly good intentioned person would say, let's make weekly mental health check ups mandatory for these children and make sure it's not a case of child labor.
1) Mental health check-ups will NOT help because exploitative job givers will just make the kids ace those tests as well no matter what, and children who have a genuine desire to be someone might screw up.
2) What's wrong with giving up mental or physical health for a dream? Teenagehood and especially childhood really are the best times to start at something because your body and mind are flexible, and when you're an adult you mostly only refine them.
3) "This is okay only if the child wants it". But what a person wishes in life is determined almost entirely by early upbringing and teenagehood emotional moments. Only really sharp strong experiences can change an adult's desire. That's the same thing as the body and mind flexibility. So if you bring the child up in a proper way, they will wish to be whatever you wish them to be :)
IMPORTANT NOTE
If you put all effort into making your child want to be a doctor and they don't want to be a doctor, it's either you who screwed up by not giving the right type of encouragement (right = the one that actually works and not the one that scares your kid), or it's the teenage experience of the child (less probable).
Before you start typing: "BUT DISCOVERING YOURSELF IS WHAT MATTERS!!!!", think about this:
What makes you up? What determines what kind of person you shall be? Your genes? Partially. Their role, the upbringing which suppresses them or makes them (the genes) express - all is unknown. Your soul? Get lost, that shit doesn't exist. Your most early experiences plus emotional moments from older age (the older you are, the more emotional these moments have to be to change you)? Most probably.
Think of the conclusion yourselves :) It's pretty obvious :)))
I have never heard of this phenomenon. Can you give some example profiles, where the influences are 16-17 and actually doing this? I don't believe this
🧍🏾♀️at least we can finally say that most of us are older than the idols-
@You're welcome the only thing that isn’t good is your school grades kid.
Is this really better;
Why would we be proud to say that haha
awkward to say that these idols are the same age as me.. some even younger
Lol I'm also 2008 so I'm the youngest member's age and I cannot imagine putting in this much work and effort and giving up on everything else🤯
As I get older as a K-pop fan I still enjoy the music from newer groups but I wish that more companies debuted idols in their mid 20s and older, instead of thinking that they would be no longer attractive to the public. There are still successful idols in their thirties/forties promoting now, although they debuted a very long time ago and have built up loyal fanbases over the years.
For girls, yes totally. But for boys I think that the company’s goal is to get as many years before they have to go to the military, so it kind of makes sense why they would debut at like 16-18 ish?
Well how about the fact that before our generation and the current generation, that people in the entertainment industry used to be allowed to be in the spotlight in their 30s and 40s. If you look at movies from the 50s and 60s you can visibly see that the people are no younger than 30 years old. Especially in classic black and white films the entire movies are made up of all adults, unless the plot is about people who are college age or younger. Everyone knows what The Twilight Zone is, and that is a classic example of how the casting used to be back then. Imagine if the entire series of the Twilight Zone was made up of 21-year-olds, I doubt it would be as good..
@@QuokkaCola44 nah... you're acc right but its not ethical,
For older K-pop artists to debut as “mature and adult-oriented” acts? Sure, I don’t see why not. As “youth-oriented” idols? Probably not the best bet since certain concepts are more likely to expire at certain ages. Just saying.
Me tooo I wish their were more groups in their adulthood
Petition to normalize people to debut at 18 and above, let them at least finish their highschool first and enjoy a normal life like other teenagers. There are many dropouts out there because they can't handle being both a student and trainee at the same time plus it is not healthy to have minors in this toxic industry. Thank you for making this video tho hope companies would realize this.
Louder
You may make them only to allow to debut at 18, but they will still recruit them at 12-13. They'll have 5-6 years to learn to be the best of the best. You need to raise the age limit to the time they are allowed to recruit the kids.
@@rtfirefly8092 true but isn't it better that way? you also be a trainee less 2 years but still really good but either ways i hope that companies would be less strict and organize the time so it's not gonna overwork the trainees.
Yeah I think it a good idea. At least they will be able to know some of normal life before become an idol. And they can be responsible for their own and their decisions. And those record companies won't use them so easily. Which I'm sure they do with the younger trainees. Kids are not so aware of legal and financial issues so they are easier to convince to anything, long time contracts, less salary and many other stuff.
get rid of age discrimination and let idols and stuff perform til they want and suddenly all problems solved.
agree. let people finish high-school and have some education if things fall through.
if people debut older, that groomed mentality of young young idols start to shift... and longevity will prevail.
it's not a hard shift.. that benefits everyone- putting no cap on age.
but industry doesn't want loyalty.. they want fast molding and expiry dates= endless supply
I got introduced to K-pop with Shinee’s Lucifer and was shocked to learn Taemin was 16 years old and had debuted at 14 🤯 Years later he talker’s d about how he hadn’t wanted
to debut that young and missed out on important life milestones 😢.
As well as many other ones who debuted this young
Hyuna also talks about how she never had a normal teenage experience or even friends her age because she debuted so young
@@JetteSwan not having friends your age is sadly common among idols who debuted young in their teens... there are other idols who have also mentioned not having any friends their age/not having many friends outside of their idol group
same
That's like all child celebrities ever😂
"OUR NEW BOY GROUP IS GONNA BE CALLED NEW BORNS" I CANT LMFAO IM DEAD
apparently in China they call these groups fresh meat.. creepi pedos man..
"they're the bad guys, not us" - pretty much the entire media industry 😬
Let's just seriously take a moment to appreciate how he can make videos with concerning topics better with humor!
Thank you!!!! This needed to said. I have students who say "age is just a number..." To which I respond, "Only if all parties are legal adults." If you're a child under 18, then age absolutely matters, and we need to stop sexualizing children. I KNOW it isn't just Kpop , but thanks for calling it out.
Age is just a number, prison is just a room :)))
if you're above 18 age isn't just a number either lol
@@mochees same!! being a young adult is just like teenagers 2.0. we are still dumb and easy to be exploited.
@@z_bennet4208 bro, 70 year Olds getting exploit3d .. everyone is a kid pretending to adult.. exploitation is everywhere
Good answer
“I like 35 year olds” …thank you sir, thank you. 😉
I think of the boy bands from way back when doing a reunion tours
thank you sir, thank you
"you wanna cookie"💀💀💀💀
That song.. 🤚
Ironic how everyone was upset when Netflix released that movie "Cuties" because they were all children, but when it's in music it's perfectly acceptable.
ador released a statement explaining the meaning behind the song. baking cookies is supposed to be a metaphor for burning CDs. they're just singing about making their music and how much effort they put behind it
@@jakeey0 Lmao like we would believe that . The song is written by an english songwriter who obviously would know the real meaning of cookie.
@@jakeey0 3:18
I agree with you. I'm a kpop fan and I actually find it hard to look at all the really young groups. They are literally children.
i love how he just gives a message with humor like thats pure talent i love u
My family thought there was something wrong with me because I was laughing so hard at this
I’m genuinely concerned where the K-pop community is going 0_0
It’s always been like this though
@@kwtelyn_ seriously?! Sorry I don’t know much about K-pop
Its not so much the community, its more of the companies themselves, but if ppl are looking at the kpop groups in the wrong way, then yes, that is concerning
I don’t know. Maybe it is time to stop simping or all about look to just being about music.
this isn't the community, this is the industry.
"Because we debut new jeans our new boy group is gonna be called new borns" 😭💀
You know he’s really driving a point home when subtitles get involved.
spreading awareness through sarcastic humor, I like it
The amount of sadness I felt when I had the epiphany that all the members of new jeans are younger than me is unexplainable
Your videos never fail to make me laugh.
Now that you’ve mentioned it…I’m ngl, I’d love to see a k pop group of 30 somethings 💕 I think that would be pretty cool
2PM still slaps, and they're in that age group now.
Super Junior's members are all in their 30s, with the oldest few turning 40 next year
If you're looking for a Girl Group, I think I can recommend Brave Girls as they already have members that are over 30?
@@hikarisan422 Brown Eyed Girls too! (3/4 are 40 and above, so not exactly 30s tho)
@@hikarisan422 I think only 1 or 2 of the members are 30. Most of the original members left, and the newer ones are 26 or 27.
actually about the joke about really young trainees, this actually happens like lightsum's juhyeon joined cube ent when she was TEN and the company SCOUTED her like it wasnt her initial decision they really came to a 10 yr old and said join our company
and it is messed up. the scout is a person that finds kids attractive. that's thr only examination.. normal people don't find kids attractive like that.. it's messed up thrb ore you think about it.
@@npcimknot958 bruh what whats wrong with thinking a kid is pretty im a kid i think my friends are pretty and attractive whats wrong with that????????1?1?1?
Jokes aside, it's good to know you're on the sane side of things nowadays - great video, as always!
I lost it at "the next group we debut will be called NewBorns" 😭
Thanks for being this up
i genuinely love newjeans' music and the members are very lovable, but it does concern me how young hyein is... ik ppl say it's the life she chose but even tho she wanted to be an idol is it really okay to have someone born in 2008 debuting like this,,,, i'm aware past idols like taemin have also debuted at 14 but that doesn't mean it's ok... taemin even has talked about how he felt like he missed out on teenage experiences debuting so young
It's a little weird to see a girl my age look older than me and be in this industry.
If with the pandemic I already lost important experiences that I would like to live, imagine what it would be like if I were working. Especially if that job is singing and dancing while being watched by adults?
That sounds kinda creepy
Sadly, these entertainments only cared about money
Even in the past when kids debuted that young, it was still wrong but at *least* they had some older folks that they could lean on and trust, not just other kids their age
@@lemonatet ye like it’s itzy, Yuna debuted at 15 but her unnies Lia and Yeji were already nearing 20 so that’s fine, the oldest member of NewJeans is literally 18, just entered adulthood.
"because we debut newjeans our new boy group is gonna be called new borns" I'M DYING
on a serious note, well said. i can't begin to imagine how toxic kpop standards have become at this point.
Everytime my reaction to knowing Hyein's age is 14. Like literally every time the age comes up.
I'm rlly confused, I thought korea was pro looking young. Why have they turned into America?
BoA debuted at 13 years old, Taemin at 14 years old just like her, Jungkook at 15 so it was always like this and I can say many more who debuted at a young age. It's not okay however the girls have already debuted. The only thing to do is ask the company that they have songs that wouldn't give dirty minded people other ideas. Although it's good to bring awareness about kpop idols debuting young, only taking Newjeans as an example as if it was the newest and most shocking thing is beyond me. And for people who are uncomfortable when looking at them because they're older than them then I must ask how did they feel when Taemin, Jungkook, Krystal debuted and how they looked at them. The other excuse they bring up is "at least there were older members in the group". That doesn't change the fact that the member in question is still young. Where was this enthusiasm for these other idols ? But I guess better late than never smh.
So yeah if people wanna talk about an issue do it fairly and say and recognize the fact that it has been happening for years...
And I must ask how is sexualizing idols the way people do okay just because the member is 18-20 or smthg ? Like some creeps waiting for an idol to hit 18 to start talking about nasty things over them. They would just be sitting and a lot of you guys would be "omg the way they're breathing is" or comments like "my ovaries. I want x to have my babies" etc like they're some sex objects to fantasize on assuming they wouldn't be uncomfortable while looking at those comments because "they're of age. They're not babies/innocent. It was expected of them. It comes with the job"
The hypocrisy...
@@pikapew3428 you really don't wanna make a 13-14 year old look even younger.... especially when you wanna sell them...
I wish it was a rule that you can only debut after your turn 18. I just can't imagine being a kpop idol so young.
Jungkook started young but now there are ppl way younger
Idols should be at least 18 to debut. 2008 is just crazy
I wish I could like this video 100 times. Really happy to see this being addressed.
Here are some lyrics from their song cookie:
"If you want it, you can get it, if you want it",
"(Keep) looking at my cookie"
"taste it"
"Take it, don't break it, I wanna see you taste it",
"Sugar, I got sugar"
Their management addressed it and said its an innocent song about "baking cookies with fans". Lets play the devils advocate here, if its about baking cookies, why is it always referring to one singular "cookie" and not "cookies"? Why do they refer to "boy" multiple times in the song? And another thing, they said their debut songs follow a storyline.
So okay, attention is about having a crush on someone and looking for their attention. Then hype boy, which is about the beginning puppy love in a relationship. And then cookie is about "baking cookies for fans". And then Hurt is about the break up.
yeah, that totally makes sense. Their management is not only filled with pedophiles, they also think we're stupid enough to fall for any of this. Poor girls.
@bo oh my
@bo oh my goodness
Wtffff😪
Also how long can you stick your head in the sand and just pretend that cookie isn’t slang for vagina 😬 because it is. That’s just the disgusting truth.
as a 22 years old, accidentally into kpop cause mamamoo and i love old group. so I find psy, uhm jung hwa, rain, Jessie, boa more catchy, attractive and cool
Same! And inherently uncomfortable with young children being monetised and especially with sexual connotations
most of those guys write their own stuff so are more considered artist that's probably why lol
@@npcimknot958 you got the point, rather than call them idol, artist more suitable
You’re so right that it’s always been this way. Taemin debuted super young, Jessica and Krystal were scouted when they were tweens. The pattern is really apparent.
You forgot Jung kook... He was debuted with bts since 15 years old, BoA also already made a soloist debut and saved SM from bankruptcy since 13 years old. Kpop industry was really not that healthy, that's what the point of concerns
@@aiskasalsabila2221 the point is , before when two - three idols in a group were 14-15 , the rest of the members were adults for example in bts , jk was 15 but the oldest jin was 20 , old enough to take care of other members, on other hand new jeans oldest member is just 18 just entered adulthood
@@superstar-su7fg
Let’s be honest JK got really, REALLY lucky that those guys raised him well
He could easily have been turned into a monster, Seungri also debuted at 15
@@dysmissme7343 you're right ...
Their songs are absolute bangers, but I have to actively ignore the lyrics to enjoy them completely. I also felt very conflicted when I first started listening to Stray Kids since I'm older than all of them. ☠️
the lyrics of cookie don’t mean anything bad. Cookie refers to cds
@@kwtelyn_ Right, they’re suggestively singing about CDs. 😆
I felt so uncomfortable reading the lyrics...i really got addicted to the song,it was amazing but they're minors...
@@kwtelyn_ you believe that gaslighting statement?
it doesnt mean anything and u cant convince me it does
as a girl high schooler nwjs stan it was so uncomfy knowing that hyein was younger than me and seeing that vid of the middle aged man looking so in love with them at the fanmeet was so creepy
😬😬😬 terrifying tbh
thanks so much for raising awareness to something so important while staying true to your channel! trainees just get younger and younger. k-pop idols are often fetished, especially the females since they’re sexualized more. it’s not right. literally, there are videos on the internet of girls twirling in concerts as slowed GIFs. It’s something serious that people need to realize.
0:40 he was so shocked he became the ultimate Asian voice in him to rise
I died when next level was sung to the baby but it is really scary that a lot of these idols are younger than me.
while he was walking on the stairs i saw your feet
Brutal reality behind humor.
IM DYING LAUGHING CRYING WHEN HE SAID IM ON DA NEXT LEVEL YEAHH
"No the baby is trying to do the choreography in 3 different languages" Had me bro-
I am loving how he pointed out the facts in this video
He really exposed the whole K-pop industry from this point onward 2:51 😭
this was really well done. i keep thinking about this topic because the members of newjeans aren't far from my age. i like them and think they're talented and would love their concept if not for the fact that they are so young, are being set out as bait for older men, and that cookie song. apparently cookie is a slang term? i didn't know that and i could still tell that the song was sexual as all hell. i'm dense as a brick wall. you gotta be pretty obvious to get to me.
as a younger kpop fan, i sometimes like seeing idols my age because it gives me something to aspire to, i guess? it's inspiring seeing kids my age sort of achieve their dreams. but that hope/inspiration is juxtaposed with the terrible knowledge that they are being exploited, or that even if they're not being mistreated by their companies they're still now in an industry that will exploit them and use them--if not directly through the company (which are already exploiting them for their youth), then by "selling" them to old AND young creeps that view them as objects rather than as people. i don't know if this even made sense lmao
"The baby is learning Choreography in three different languages"💀💀💀
4:13 i was drinking water watching this and i spit it all out- 😂😭😭
Kpop companies becoming creepier and everyone’s just watching
As much as I want to stan New Jeans because of the buzz around their music it just feels wrong to do so. It's weird cause there was such prominent discussion around this when the survival show "My teenage Girl" was airing but now it's nowhere to be found. Not only New Jeans but CLASS:y too. In addition, there are some people who are saying that these young girls should be allowed to follow their passion disregarding how the kpop industry is gonna treat them. Especially with girls these young in an industry that has such toxic diet standards we are just waiting for mental health issues
and the fans who knows it's the company but still support the groups bc "the idols don't deserve the hate" is what makes this continues to happen. companies will still debut and promote bc after a while fans will come back to support cuz "the idols shouldn't sacrifice their success bc of the company" and it's a vicious cycle
Thanks for covering this. I must admit I vibe with all of New Jeans' songs, and Cookie as well. I actually want to say that Cookie is a really cool and catchy song, but yeah, since it's sung by a bunch of 14 year olds, it really sounds wrong. And I'm glad you're mentioning this, cause I've seen a lot of people on the internet defending the song with comments like "Westerners have a dirty mind, they only see dirty bad stuff where there is none" or "guys, there is a lot of mistranslation in those lyrics, so don't take it too seriously" or "the cookie is their CD, duh, cause it's round"... uhh, okay. So I'm glad you see it the way you describe it in the video.
lol 100 western mind is not even close to how dirty Asian minds are. 🤣 hello Japan 😆
koreas darkweb of cp.. trust.. Asia below the surface is more manic and dirty than the west
"The cookie is their CD" was the absolute worst excuse for those lyrics that they could have come up with. And the translation came from their company, so the company knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
@@Fantastikitty
Honestly 🤢
Trying to convince us that they meant literal cookies would have been more believable
@@floralfancy7814 I wouldn't boycott the whole industry, just research who you stan and be aware.
@@jamesbright3439min heejin is the main problem here.
Respect to you for using your platform to vocalize an important issue. The comedy was great as always. Your underlying message was clear though. Thank you for speaking up a bit about the dark side of the Kpop industry, and any entertainment industry.
"I'm on the next level" "we're asian we're smart af" 😭😭😭
Finally a comment mentioning asians being smart af😭
“You want a cookie?”
People needs to understand that they have their all life to make a career but your teenage/school years will never come back
I hope you continue to make these kinds of videos, i really like the concept
Seriously I am also disappointed to know that they almost debuted in their childhood.
The fact that they're trainees and they're 6. Like, your main concern at that age should be trying to stay awake later than 9 pm and watching TV for five more minutes, so on, so forth.
Actually… Hyein is not even in high school she is halfway through middle school lmao
High school in some countries is from grade 7-12 (e.g. Australia). The effect is still the same. If I hear "Highschool" I'm going to think "13-18yr olds"
@@qwmx I think 14-17 but yeah. 18 ish top I guess cause that’s when you graduate (I graduated two weeks after my 18th birthday cause I’m on the younger side) but if we’re going with Korean standards, she’s in 8th grade and there is still another year left. It’s technically Junior “high” yes but they call it essentially “middle school”
Man : I want a cook…
Appears in prison
Man : where is this place?
I was a 12 years old stanning a bunch of 24-30 years old dudes and now I'm 23 years old stanning those 34-40 years old dudes. Companies should stop debuting minors when there are a lot of skilled adult trainees who WILL attract fans given they're promoted well or have good skills.
Same lmao
Aren't MAMAMOO and Red Velvet members in their late 20s to early 30s now and are still amazing? They should keep debuting more groups like that
thanks for talking about this. i remember when newjeans debuted everyone was like "omg they're so young! this is wrong!" but then quickly got over it and starting stanning them. like bruh, its still wrong, why r u supporting them now. like, i get the kids probably had little to no choice in the matter, and yes their music is good, but promoting and following the band just shows their management that its acceptable for them to subject these children to this bc kpop stans enjoy it. and ik this has been a problem in the industry for a long time but when does it end? they keep getting away with it bc we keep fueling their careers. kids deserve to just be kids and experience normal childhoods, not be scrutinized or sexualized over every move they make. this kind of stuff is already really damaging to older kpop artists' mental and physical health. just think about how it must affect these kids whose brains and bodies are still developing. there's a reason why child labor laws exist
agh. okay, rant over. sorry, this kind of thing just really pisses me off, and i needed to get that off my chest.
Totally agree, it's revolting
I've seen many stans complain how "their poor idols are so mistreated by the company, so they have to support them"... Like, what? Don't they see they are supporting the company as well?
I think the industry promotes that image of the idols, like, showing how much they exhaust themselves practicing, starve themselves...and let the people put the blame on the company because it will move fans to pity and support the group 🤦🏻♀️ it's really messed up
Oh, and don't forget, this kind of comments we are doing is "hating behavior", we're just " jealous of their success" 💀
THAT WAS A HARD SPILL AND MY EXACT THOUGHTS k-pop stans are hypocrites they'll eat up everything once it appeals to them not looking into what their behaviour is doing to those children.
Next K-pop group boutta be a bottle of suspicious white liquid from a person who hasn’t even been conceived yet
This is my favourite video of yours. It brings attention to a very important subject. I watched the clip of New Jeans singing that cookie song and was creeped out.
Debuting people really young has been so normalized that anyone 18-27 is considered "old" or even "ancient", when in fact its much better - for several reasons - to have ADULTS debut instead of minors.
2:07 Our new boy group is gonna be called *nEw bOrNs* HELPPP😭💀
"I'm on the next, level"
Me: "Holy shit what the fu-"
I will say that I liked NewJeans debut up until they released "Cookie." The lyrics and imagery of "Attention" and "Hype Boy" are more age appropriate and fun, and I found them refreshing and interesting. "Cookie" creeped me out, and I really wondered what the company was thinking for that one.
Ditto is the bop, its their actual vibe, i wish they released more songs like that and not about cookies and controversial stuffs.
KPOP is now KDRAMA (literally)
YES IVE FELT VERY STRONG ABOUT THIS THANK YOU FOR SPREADING AWARENESS
Eventually kpop idols are just gonna say “goo goo gaa gaa”
no but how does the parents allow them 💀💀
Money money money 💲💰
Like how they allow child actors
Asian people always surprise me with their genius
This gives the same energy as, "Oh, I'm a hands-off, presenter pimp. If someone sleeps with the underage human, they're the problem not me. I only present the package. My hands are totally clean."
His point reminded me of the fact that only elementary/middle/high schoolers are chosen to save the world from otherworldly/magical devastation.
That's right anime I'm looking at you!
Spilling facts as always!! And also the idols they miss their own normal teenage life which is kinda sad ! And teens set standard of BEAUTY TO THEM WHATEVER ITS KINDA MESSED UP
Lmao i died when you said the new boy group was going to be called newborns .. I was not even expecting that 😂😂😂 .
LOL THIS IS TOO TRUE
@You're welcome thats a fake link youtube link cuz it has a dot inbetween youtube LOL
"new borns" 💀
"Their target is people younger them them right"
The guy: yes about that-
At first i was laughing, but now im like..bro hes serious...and hes right too!
I love the way you take the initiative and spreading awareness about this matter. Keep doing the great work. 👏K-pop is actually damaging kids nowadays, sad truth, this hype is not good...
it’s sad because nwjns isn’t even the first instance of this happening in the kpop industry. idols have debuted at 14-15 for many years now and they’ll probably continue to do so. when nwjns debuted, i like everyone else liked their music because it’s really catchy and nice to listen to, but i certainly felt uncomfortable listening to cookie. i’m only 20 years old myself but because i know how these girls will be viewed from their "older fans" inevitably it makes me want to vomit. i’m simply worried for them. there was an instance short after their debut when during their fan sign event, there was an old man who was a "fan" of them...
They treat 30+ people as if they were so old they can't do anything and they asumme people wouldn't pay attention to them because they would be boring. I think what brings me attention to a kpop group is their music and concepts not their age 😐
When I discovered how old NewJeans members were I got very uncomfortable, specially after listening to cookie because I'm the same age as youngest member, so yeah...I can't imagine how they study and work at the same time because I already struggle A LOT with school.
Bruh 30 years old is still considered young lmao i dont like how kpop treat like their eldery
I'm just concerned about their mental health. Getting famous at 14 would've messed me up lmao.
“I’m on the next level” that got me dead lmfai
I'm New jeans fan but this is the truth.
The bit with the pregnancy made me laugh. On that note, it reminded me a bit of MAMADOL, the members were "moms who were stars but had to leave the entertainment industry". It's just a shame they disbanded after the final episode of the reality TV show they were in instead of actually pursuing it (the contract probably forced their hand, though I'm curious if any of them wanted to actually stay). It would be nice if motherhood/fatherhood (and maybe even relationships and marriage, but that seems to be too much for the rampant parasocial relationships in KPOP) was what was normalized in the industry and not... idols debuting before they even turn 16
Him giving shocked expressions while wearing brown jacket is everything. 😂
I don't know Korean but even the English lyrics in Cookie had me like 😳 but it's a bop tho lol
1:37 this bit killed me
When I heard that one of the members are 16 I was like 💀💀 Dude, I’m 19 and I don’t even know yet what I’m gonna do with my life.
Met the new K-pop band singing before their mom and dad where born XD