so what I've noticed (possibly falsely) is that m1 hitboxes lag behind when you're walking forward (or backward runners have better hitboxes lol). If you don't understand this, look at neji's old rotation hitbox. It clearly lags behind. But with m1s they are actually much more consistent. if you're mid-dash using pre-location buff rotation, it will still lag behind you. If you m1, the hitbox will appear in front of you. The issue is that m1's are not frame 1 so they will not lag behind when you click your mouse but if you're moving after you click your mouse the hitbox won't stay in front of you like normal.
they lag behind automatically because you have ping, if nobody had ping or like 5 ping this wouldn’t be a problem or if the m1s had client sided hitboxes but that would make it really frustrating for the opponent and hitbox extending would be easier
Nobody is explaining how to get better at aba like You howdy You’re the goat when it comes to teaching this stuff! Keep up the good work man This man will single handedly raise the skill bar for all of aba community
Also, if you have faster m1 like Aqua buff or aizen awakening you're most likely to win the trade, since your animation happen faster and your hitbox touch them first
Quick reminder: If you have around 160+ ping m1ing your m1s will get affected by alot, since the hitboxes wont follow the character as intended and will end up being way more inconsistent. Conclusion: If you have over 160 ping, dont rush your enemys like crazy witg fist characters cuz you're in a mad disvantage. If im pretty sure, the only character with fist m1 range that barely gets affected by this is Gaara, so yeah. Btw this goes for every type of m1s except Gaara's.
@@Govuko Pro tip: That’s common sense but 160 ping isn’t fun for anyone and you’ll just fall out of people’s combos and be unable to pull off your own. Don’t be a burden online🤩
@@stare1716 Fun fact a fighting game does revolve around low ping players, otherwise everyone would be teleporting around. That’s why proximity matchmaking and local play is a thing.
@@beastv5607 stand defense is really predictable so dont do a blockable barrage type of move when they have stand defense up. But if its a smart jotaro they will wait till you use it so gg
True, 170 is enough to fucking make it Impossible to get combos, and to just land combos overrall. Going behind your enemy and m1ing also barely works with this much.
That makes sense, in my PS I get 100 ping average and I can land m1s by dashing behind, as soon as I go ranked my ping goes 180 and I can't do that no more Fr feels like I can't land an M1 for my life
I knew this before watching the video but today a gold jotaro was extremely toxic after winning because i was able to trade m1's with him as bakugo, it also might be because the jotaro got guardbroken when he used stand defense half the time
@@user-up7it4wx4b it really depends on the persons cps. if someone has a really fast cps it might be faster, but if they have a slower cps you can block mid m1 combo. thats why you might as well just hold it
Since I use controller dashing behind people sometimes doesn't work. So I usually just m1 then dash, or I try to uptilt/downtilt into an m1. Regardless tho great video.
for the most part, every char apart from extended m1s (stands included, they have normal range on their m1s) have around 1 and 3/4 (might be 1/2 but my testing looks like more than half the sqaure), extended m1s have 2 blocks and rikka 2 blocks and 1/4 (?) his general tips are good though (like attacking from the side, dashing, etc)
infernasu reference
sus
I have a question: Gilgamesh's m1 hitboxes are so wacky, so how do you play aggro with it? Thanks a lot for such an amazing video btw! :D
@@cyho4353 try to swerve and lure ur opponent into the m1s or punish the longest end lag thing ur enemy has everyone has a move with end lag
m1 m1 m1 flip em slam em bushoguma
@@foldfoldfoldfold m1 m1 m1 m1 and then bushogama m1 m1 m1 m1 m1
Thank you for not just explaining to us the variations of m1s
Step 1: Become laggy, the opponent will lose the ability to uptilt you
Dude was trash talking too hard on me because he could not uptilt xd
Yes I needed this a lot! Thank you!
Man I'd like to give a massive thanks to this video for helping me find Melty Blood and other TYPE-MOON works as well
so what I've noticed (possibly falsely) is that m1 hitboxes lag behind when you're walking forward (or backward runners have better hitboxes lol). If you don't understand this, look at neji's old rotation hitbox. It clearly lags behind. But with m1s they are actually much more consistent. if you're mid-dash using pre-location buff rotation, it will still lag behind you. If you m1, the hitbox will appear in front of you. The issue is that m1's are not frame 1 so they will not lag behind when you click your mouse but if you're moving after you click your mouse the hitbox won't stay in front of you like normal.
they lag behind automatically because you have ping, if nobody had ping or like 5 ping this wouldn’t be a problem or if the m1s had client sided hitboxes but that would make it really frustrating for the opponent and hitbox extending would be easier
Congratulations! you just discovered what ping is!
That feeling when the grimnjow main hits you from 3 blocks away
The problem with this tech is that the opponent can immediately block behind or bait your q dash back into m1 by blocking close range
YESSSS THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR.THANK YOU BRO
Nobody is explaining how to get better at aba like You howdy
You’re the goat when it comes to teaching this stuff! Keep up the good work man
This man will single handedly raise the skill bar for all of aba community
This is my most needed vid😂🤟🏻
M1M1M1 send em up into the air slam em down bushogoma.. kageoni OH MY GOD THAT COMBO
Also, if you have faster m1 like Aqua buff or aizen awakening you're most likely to win the trade, since your animation happen faster and your hitbox touch them first
Quick reminder:
If you have around 160+ ping m1ing your m1s will get affected by alot, since the hitboxes wont follow the character as intended and will end up being way more inconsistent.
Conclusion: If you have over 160 ping, dont rush your enemys like crazy witg fist characters cuz you're in a mad disvantage.
If im pretty sure, the only character with fist m1 range that barely gets affected by this is Gaara, so yeah.
Btw this goes for every type of m1s except Gaara's.
Better tip: If you have 160+ ping stay off of ranked for both of each others sake
@@blueblob8630 Fun fact: The world does not revolve around ppeople with low ping
@@blueblob8630 Pro tip: North american isn't the only continent, and USA isn't the only country!!
@@Govuko Pro tip: That’s common sense but 160 ping isn’t fun for anyone and you’ll just fall out of people’s combos and be unable to pull off your own. Don’t be a burden online🤩
@@stare1716 Fun fact a fighting game does revolve around low ping players, otherwise everyone would be teleporting around. That’s why proximity matchmaking and local play is a thing.
Thank you the stand tips will help me all lot
I was watching this when I was bounded by a mad 3 year old in rogue lineage. the last action my akuma gaian has even done was watch this video
btw when u move ur hitbox is smaller so it aint actually that far if u try to m1 moving
Thanks now people are gonna just slip through my combos in ranked
based
bro when i go walk straight my m1n's are in my torso i wish i have a normal m1
bro where is infernasu’a vid on this???
Sometimes against somebody like jotaro you cant just try and close the gap depends on character sometimes
And start to m1 them and then they use stand defense and one shot combo you
@@beastv5607 stand defense is really predictable so dont do a blockable barrage type of move when they have stand defense up. But if its a smart jotaro they will wait till you use it so gg
banger, also what is the outro music
idk why but it hurts when u see a minato not ladder and only down slam
When i play fighting games my m1 hitbox feels like its smaller than an ant
the problem with m1s on high ping is that the m1 hitbox lags behind you when you move which is kinda annoying
True, 170 is enough to fucking make it Impossible to get combos, and to just land combos overrall.
Going behind your enemy and m1ing also barely works with this much.
@@odeiomelao dang thats why im like the worst x rank because i get average 400 ping
@@stare1716 oh damm 400 ping 💀if its me ima leave already lol
@@lynguyenthithanh2922 yeah i leave when i get 400+ . 400 aint as bad as people think tbh. Or im just built diff
That makes sense, in my PS I get 100 ping average and I can land m1s by dashing behind, as soon as I go ranked my ping goes 180 and I can't do that no more
Fr feels like I can't land an M1 for my life
Should I hold down left click or spam click to M1?
Doesnt jolyne have extended sword m1 range?
Doesn't jolyne have doppio range m1s?
can you make a dashing tutorial because i mostly just spam it when im in a match
Can you do a kisuke tip vid?
why tf does iskandar have extended m1s but his sword is short??
uh soo i doo the dash side thingy and bro literally dodges my m1s (while hes being stunned) is that normal our just ping ?
this is from a year ago expect some changes
Finally someone will m1 in ranked
what do u use to record
what is the range of gaara's m1s?
What is passive play
Does gin hv extended range?
I knew this before watching the video but today a gold jotaro was extremely toxic after winning because i was able to trade m1's with him as bakugo, it also might be because the jotaro got guardbroken when he used stand defense half the time
Damn , maybe now people will understand M1 is a thing and be good finally
first song link? couldn't find it
I FUCKING FOUND IT ua-cam.com/video/uEDXArkQYKM/v-deo.html
Rika with her giant sword laughing
Can't wait to see the community do this and wreck me
why does our downslam always miss when we need it the most
it doesnt work cuz i get 200 ping they always hit me even tho im on there back
:(
how to play accel plz
also clicking with your m1s isn’t always true and people can block out of it so make sure to hold m1s whenever you can
its the opposite, clicking is faster than hold
@@user-up7it4wx4b it really depends on the persons cps. if someone has a really fast cps it might be faster, but if they have a slower cps you can block mid m1 combo. thats why you might as well just hold it
@@aaxelchin its true but to make some moves to combo extend u need cps 8/9 like fireball jutsu from sasuke and hold is like 5/6
What about Gaara?
No one:
Literally no one:
Stand vs Sword: CAMERA BAYBLADEE
so noones gonna talk about 5:37 when his stand got uptilted he flicked away so he wouldn't get hit
He talked about that in video
You see this would be perfect if moves didn't exist
This is cool and everything until they m1 you and fake you out with a fast guardbreak or combo starter 🤔🤨
Since I use controller dashing behind people sometimes doesn't work. So I usually just m1 then dash, or I try to uptilt/downtilt into an m1. Regardless tho great video.
Ain't no way iskandar got extended sword m1 range with that thing
answer: have a good internet
POV: Jolyne M1 hitbox
Hitbox is ping based. So even fist hitbox can be like sword hitbox lul.
Well, I got something to practice
Bro the sword ant even touching you and u still getting hit 💀💀💀😭😭
aba has trading?
Most important one: must have good ping
i dont have good ping
@@HowdyFolkss cap
I remember when people use to m1
pog early moment
This vid is cool but it doesnt work with a 30+ ping cz u cant hit ppls back
How does it feel to be the goat?
Omg sengoku
play pts luffy and punish them for landing m1s by spamming 3 and 1 key
This still valid?
i guess if u got no brain plasticity u have to learn by reading m1 strats but i feel like just practicing m1 is better
Double jump to get max gilgamesh m1 range
lancer endlag after doing blink thrust is brain dead
Imma try that agaisnt a pts sanji
m1 m1 m1 m1
use whitebeard then mostly of m1 battle you will win
if only everybody didnt run.
LOL
whats so funny buckeroo
there is a better way to do the melee one and the stand one but k
Buff stand m1!!!!1!1!1!1!1!
Just dont do m1 trades
- Jolyne user
Nose ingles B)
I doubt the trustworthy of these advices. Your're fighting the same person in a private server. That guy can just be bad at m1.
Buff hollow ichigo
sucks that this video is kind of useless now
m1 is literally luck game for me istg. its cancerous.
Just get good
Well, this video is pointless lol.
for the most part, every char apart from extended m1s (stands included, they have normal range on their m1s) have around 1 and 3/4 (might be 1/2 but my testing looks like more than half the sqaure), extended m1s have 2 blocks and rikka 2 blocks and 1/4 (?)
his general tips are good though (like attacking from the side, dashing, etc)