4K Virtual Reality Sim Racing has finally arrived (Pimax Crystal SUPER)

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2024

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  • @thepirateswirled
    @thepirateswirled 3 дні тому +4

    Too expensive, and for me, FOV is king! I don’t get why they won’t release a successor to the Pimax 8KX, especially when so many are asking for it. While the resolution of my Quest Pro isn’t the best, it’s fine for me. I’d much rather have a VR headset with a FOV of 150+ and the same sharpness as my Quest Pro, rather than the sharpest picture on a small screen.

  • @antjones2281
    @antjones2281 3 дні тому +8

    A bit dodgy showing the Crystal as a PCVR headset, and then comparing it with Quest 3 with a standalone game.
    Why wouldn't you show the quest 3 playing the same pcvr game?

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому +2

      Because I was explaining the pros and cons of standalone 👍

    • @garytebbenham6843
      @garytebbenham6843 3 дні тому +6

      Because he was sponsored.

    • @GUNNERBASS
      @GUNNERBASS 2 дні тому +1

      @@garytebbenham6843😂

    • @antjones2281
      @antjones2281 2 дні тому

      @@Kireth yeah but buying a quest 3 to play pcvr is why people would be buying a quest 3 in the context of sim racing?
      Sorry, I'm not trying to bust your balls but you can see what I mean right?
      Love the channel though, your bravery to embrace third person and bonnet cams are the reason I subscribed.

  • @andyblake8768
    @andyblake8768 3 дні тому +2

    Better to outline the poor customer service with Pimax also. Save people waisting their money.

  • @oroborus2063
    @oroborus2063 4 дні тому +7

    untill we have those 4K VR screens with the best posible lenses in a bigscreen beyond form factor and a GPU that can do stable 120fps in all the new racing sims at that res I will be on triple screens, I give it another 10 years.

    • @acebirdjohn
      @acebirdjohn 3 дні тому +1

      We will get there!

    • @Eskoxo
      @Eskoxo 3 дні тому

      honestly i can't tell pixels on bigscreen beyond at 2560x2560 per eye the whole 4k per screen thing is mostly marketing and unnecessary in my opinion.

    • @weycking
      @weycking 3 дні тому

      In 2 or 3 years we will be there, definitly. Look at the evolution in Sim and VR in the last years..

    • @VRDREAMS1
      @VRDREAMS1 3 дні тому

      Meganex and 5090 next year??:)) hopefully it’s bright enough.. but our eyes adjust..

    • @oroborus2063
      @oroborus2063 3 дні тому

      @@Eskoxo still needs better lenses wider FOV and foveated rendering and an rtx 6090

  • @russ3190
    @russ3190 2 дні тому +1

    I pre-ordered super version and I hope it won't have any issues. My current headset is reverb g2

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 дні тому

      Very curious to see how you find it!

    • @Iamtheskidoostig
      @Iamtheskidoostig 2 години тому

      Pre-ordered mine and I'm coming off a Quest 1 lol.

  • @Chris6068
    @Chris6068 3 дні тому +2

    Hey there, Kireth. Not sure you'll see this, but maybe if I'm lucky.
    I've been trying to dig into exactly what the best ways to record and stream VR would be, and you seem to be one of the few that truly have it figured out for iRacing.
    I'm curious what your setup is, if you didn't mind sharing a little bit!
    Thanks in advance

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      Yo! So I capture the SteamVR window of iRacing in OBS. Pimax Play might also have a capture method but I use OBS

    • @Chris6068
      @Chris6068 3 дні тому

      @@Kireth Oooooh this would make a lot of sense being on Pimax. I might have to move away from the Quest/OpenXR platform to truly achieve what I'm wanting to, I appreciate the quick response and the insight!

  • @realnull
    @realnull 3 дні тому

    How would you compare it to PSVR2? Right now at Argos PSVR2 is for £340 and the PC adapter is £50, so that is in total of £390. How much better is pimax? is the price difference give that much better experience?

  • @ramonzaions7522
    @ramonzaions7522 2 дні тому +1

    Its true than the Super dont have DP2.1?

  • @sprocket5526
    @sprocket5526 4 дні тому +3

    O have the PSVR2, bought it for the PS5, and quite happy with it for that, particular considering thf price point. Tried it mt pc running a 2070, and the 2070 craps it self trying to rub sim racing on it.
    I wish PSVR2 had better lenses and much better PC support, and it would be an absolute winner for sim racing

    • @garytebbenham6843
      @garytebbenham6843 3 дні тому +1

      In the Steam settings you can reduce the vertical field of view which then frees up resources if your PC is of a lower spec. Gives you a letter box style of view which is similar to wearing a helmet and anyway most people when driving are not looking at their legs or the sky. I find my PSVR2 is not as good as my Q3 for sim racing as the image is just not sharp enough and you have the mura too.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      @garytebbenham6843 I didn't know this, will try it

    • @sprocket5526
      @sprocket5526 3 дні тому

      @@garytebbenham6843 I try and have a go with that. Was planning on upgrading to one of the AMD up coming 8000 series gfx cards, but who knows when that will be, price and availability.

    • @garytebbenham6843
      @garytebbenham6843 3 дні тому +1

      @@sprocket5526 I have just a 3060ti at the moment. In the Oculus debug tool I reduce the vertical field of view down to 40% and it makes quite a difference to my frame rate. In Steam you can go down to 50% only. Obviously, cuts some of the sky and your legs but it’s worth it for the extra FPS.

  • @Dachopper_
    @Dachopper_ 2 дні тому

    You mention that it’s 72-90hz, this is not entirely correct. The QLED headset will be 100hz whilst the micro-OLED will be 90hz

  • @AL.farmlife
    @AL.farmlife 3 дні тому +1

    i happy with my quest 3 for now until i dont have 5090 i will not even think about it and in quest 3 no screendoor soo it worth for uts price. Pimax should prove that they improved QA !

  • @GapsExist
    @GapsExist 3 дні тому

    Is the Quest 3 worth a purchase over a PSVR2 with the PC adapter? Is it any better?

    • @adamgreenhill110
      @adamgreenhill110 2 дні тому

      YES 100%, if you use PCVR and your PC has ethernet to the router

  • @VideoUser3053
    @VideoUser3053 11 годин тому

    But what is the Super like to use?

  • @Valkron11
    @Valkron11 День тому

    I'm still on the Pico 4. Was let down when I heard they canceled the Pico 5 Max Pro. I'll probably get the Crystal Light and hope to grab a 5090 next month

  • @palaHD
    @palaHD 3 дні тому

    What GPU have you got in your Alienware?

  • @ILoveUEVR
    @ILoveUEVR 2 дні тому

    Surely even a 4090 or 5090 won't be able to run a Pimax Super to its full use? Two 4K panels per eye is like running an 8K output BUT with double the game resources (compared to a non-VR 8K game) since each eye gets a differently rendered image to produce the 3D effect, no?

  • @jarrodclyne707
    @jarrodclyne707 3 дні тому +1

    How is Pimax's QC and customer support these days?

    • @Robin_S78
      @Robin_S78 3 дні тому +1

      100% Rubbish, I have major problems at the moment with this company.

  • @JaapGrolleman
    @JaapGrolleman 3 дні тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this!

  • @jameyridge1121
    @jameyridge1121 4 дні тому +2

    I decided to purchase a Crystal Light partly based on the content from your channel. The clarity is awesome… until you move your eyes. The peripheral clarity is terrible and quickly caused motion sickness for me. The sweet spot is tiny. The UA-cam reviewers seem to be getting a different set of lenses compared to buyers. The UA-camrs are either receiving cherry picked headsets or the good reviews are paid for by Pimax. I did several back to back comparisons with a Quest 3 and the Q3 beats the PCL in every category except resolution. The clip you showed from the Q3 is a game running on the headset not pcvr via the link cable which is very misleading. Check the Pimax subreddit before you buy.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому +1

      This doesn't sound good - do you mean moving your eyes like foveated rendering, or moving your head in the headset? Let me know if you heard back from Pimax on this as maybe you had faulty lenses which I imagine are covered under warranty
      The Q3 footage is standalone as I was talking about the different levels of VR

    • @jameyridge1121
      @jameyridge1121 4 дні тому

      @@Kireth thanks for the response. I would compare the lenses to that of a Quest 2. The PCL had an amazing sweet spot with blurred peripheral vision outside of the sweet spot. Checking a mirror was impossible without turning my head to focus the sweet spot on the mirror. I spent much of the weekend tweaking settings but the issue couldn’t be improved with software. I’ll be returning the PCL, keeping my Q3 and waiting on the Valve Deckard.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому

      Definitely try the return and let me know what they say - very sorry to hear you've had a bad experience!

    • @colinwright7242
      @colinwright7242 4 дні тому

      Not convinced even the 5090 would have the power to run the super at native resolution, l have a crystal and still have to compromise on settings and resolution even with a 4090. Hopefully l.wrong.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      It's a good point- what's your settings on the 4090?

  • @jonathandesilets7516
    @jonathandesilets7516 4 дні тому +2

    VR will always be more immersive and have the wow factor. With that said and owning both vr and a triple screen setup...I will probably never switch to vr full time and get rid of the triple as it is so much more comfortable and convenient for long sessions of practice and long races. Specially when I look at those gigantic VR headsets yes the visuals are impressive but after 1-2h of this on my head I need to take it off.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому +1

      The dream is a headset you forget you have on

    • @David-nb2bc
      @David-nb2bc 3 дні тому

      Have you try Big Screen Beyond? You can also check out this MeganeX superlight 8K upcoming headset too.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      Not yet but would like to!

    • @garytebbenham6843
      @garytebbenham6843 3 дні тому

      I don’t think you’d like the real thing.

    • @jonathandesilets7516
      @jonathandesilets7516 3 дні тому

      @@garytebbenham6843 I like the real thing and I also like VR...I actually used it for years. It's about making the experience more comfortable. If I had to choose between driving a gutted honda with no power steering or AC or a modern car with AC ventilated seats and all the bells and whistles...I would choose the newer more "comfortable" car. I am not here to beat any world record it's just a hobby. Maybe I am just getting old but there is no point in making yourself uncomfortable if you can achieve the same results. Ask Max Verstappen...Guess what he uses triples and I think he also can do pretty good in the "real thing".

  • @Invest-n-Rest
    @Invest-n-Rest 3 дні тому

    tell them to get rid of the knob on the back and use a self ratcheting and release strap. this way you can comfortably put your head back.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      My UA-cam Studio app truncated this message 😳

    • @Invest-n-Rest
      @Invest-n-Rest 3 дні тому

      @Kireth 😅

  • @yobroone1265
    @yobroone1265 3 дні тому +1

    We need more good VR race titles instead of headsets

  • @jrpadilla899
    @jrpadilla899 3 дні тому +1

    What if I don't want the subscription? I just want it to play Sim-Racing on my pc, I don't want to pay 600 for that subscription fee

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      I think you can pay for it up front but it's more expensive

    • @bobbobson8672
      @bobbobson8672 День тому

      @@Kireth It's 12% cheaper to pay up front for the Crystal Super, not more expensive! (10% cheaper for Crystal Light). I'm not sure why I keep seeing people say it's more expensive for the one-time payment.

  • @DigidiBoom
    @DigidiBoom 4 дні тому +2

    bruh... i thought crystal light is a new one... LOL So I guess, skip that one then and get this one instead.. Compare it to pimax crystal light, PLEASE!
    Did I get it right ? 999$ plus 32$x24(768$) ??? 😯 x2 the price of pimax light ???😵‍💫

  • @Prebbech
    @Prebbech 3 дні тому

    Have a 3080ti and Reverb G2. Actively looking for a replacement VR headset. Current plan is to upgrade GPU with a 5090 when available, then look at headsets. Pimax Super could fit the bill. Using SC2, Qubic systems 3DOF motion, Heusenkveld pedals, so have made a pact with the devil re expense. Impatience is getting to me now! IRacing is sole focus.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому

      That 5090 going to be a beast!!

  • @bobjames6622
    @bobjames6622 4 дні тому +18

    From everything I've heard/read, the QC on consumer Pimax units is garbage. So would NEVER even consider them. No point in being a great concept if the actual products are pants.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому

      How about the 10 day trial period?

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 4 дні тому +5

      @@Kireth What happens if it packs up six months into ownership? Nope, would not buy a product from a company with such a poor reputation for reliability.

    • @Robin_S78
      @Robin_S78 4 дні тому +3

      The customer service of these money grabbers is non existing. Never again this crap.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому

      I would guess normal warranty applies. But let me know what you would like Pimax to change and I will pass on to them!

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 4 дні тому +1

      @@Kireth There is one thing that simply cannot be changed; trust. I've just heard too many bad things about their products so would never touch them.
      About 30 years ago I bought different electrical items from a certain company, and they were actually great in terms of their performance....except they only lasted a few months. Even today, after 3 DECADES, I would NEVER touch one of their products. Trust, once lost, cannot be regained.

  • @PanacheConnection
    @PanacheConnection 4 дні тому +1

    Resolution is impressive but is a 4090 enough to get a smooth frame rate. Currently with the crystal the motion reproduction feels a bit like an afterthought. They really need to up their game in that area for their new headset to be a viable option in the sim racing community with the currently available PC racing sims. Software is where up to now they have failed miserably, look at the standalone OS of the pimax crystal. It's basically abandoned. Does anyone actually use the standalone mode on the original crystal. Hope they do decide to put more effort behind the software development side of things.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому

      I guess they kept options open with the original crystal and are now focusing on areas like sim racing that don't need standalone

    • @markm75
      @markm75 День тому

      Only client 1.14 works somewhat OK with smart smoothing and the og crystal with msfs at least. Still in the works to be fixed

  • @dannychoe1741
    @dannychoe1741 3 дні тому

    QUESTION: I hear almost everyone gets motion sickness from GT7! I had a headache for 4 hrs and needed to lay down. I read all the """tricks'""" like """"keep playing """ short sessions with brightness all the way down... but does it actually work???

    • @sailingenki2038
      @sailingenki2038 3 дні тому

      Thats not true, maybe when they first got it. You have to understand that a lot of people only play it ever now and then. Anyone who play it actively, have no issues whatsoever

    • @garytebbenham6843
      @garytebbenham6843 3 дні тому +1

      GT7 is reprojected so every other frame is artificially created which gives rise to artifacts such as ghosting and blur. The PSVR2 also has a high persistence rate. Not a great headset for those that are sensitive or new to VR.

    • @sailingenki2038
      @sailingenki2038 3 дні тому

      @@garytebbenham6843everyone new to vr feels sick, you get over it so the point is invalid. Everyone i know loves gt7 with the psvr2. You sound like someone that either doesn’t have one or doesn’t use it much

    • @garytebbenham6843
      @garytebbenham6843 3 дні тому

      @@sailingenki2038 I have the PSVR2 and Quest 3. Not a fanboy of either and just stating facts and what I personally see in the headset.

    • @sailingenki2038
      @sailingenki2038 3 дні тому

      @@garytebbenham6843 every affordable headset is compromising something, its just way it is while we wait for the technology to evolve

  • @KimBezmen
    @KimBezmen 3 дні тому

    Great content, as always! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

  • @angrybeaver6667
    @angrybeaver6667 2 дні тому

    I hope you're right, I have ine pre-ordered.

  • @Luke-q2u
    @Luke-q2u 2 дні тому

    I don’t understand what standalone means in this situation?

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  2 дні тому

      It means it's completely unconnected, no wires or PC needed

  • @anestsurfer
    @anestsurfer 3 дні тому +4

    This was a very poor representation of the Quest 3 for PCVR Sim-Racing. I'm running 120Hz @ 5408x2912 and it looks nothing like what you showed in this video.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому +2

      This is how it looks on a 4090: ua-cam.com/video/UVznwf0Z9h4/v-deo.htmlsi=01UH8iVNosXLdcWk

    • @azharhirani
      @azharhirani 3 дні тому +1

      Agreed, the quest 3 here is not represented well in the video. I run it at highest resolution with the highest bitrate with quest link. 90hz, it looks great. Currently on a 4080 super. I used to run it on a 4060 mobile gpu and did run it on 72hz and still have loved it (not as sharp as its now with the 4080 super)But I am excited to try Pimax Super next year. Waiting for the 5000 series cards to release in order to upgrade

    • @azharhirani
      @azharhirani 3 дні тому +1

      Agreed. 100%

    • @anestsurfer
      @anestsurfer 3 дні тому +1

      @@azharhirani Totally, I'm in the same boat, I'd be excited for higher-res options. I still see shimmering with MSAA 8X and enhance mode turned on in Nvidia config. Currently CPU-bound in iRacing with a 4090 at max res, so the new X3D chips and a higher-res headset would be perfect. I'd want wired for lightness and ease-of-use though, so maybe a Pimax Crystal Super-Light or a Quest 4 if those come out lol.

    • @anestsurfer
      @anestsurfer 3 дні тому +2

      @@Kireth Agree with the video overall that PCVR has an exciting future ahead and this product is quite promising. Thanks for sharing your perspective of the Pimax and an example of Quest 3 graphics so we have a better idea of what we're buying!

  • @cory2016
    @cory2016 4 дні тому +1

    Psvr2 is the best bc of the price of the value g7 vr keep on getting updates and upgrades

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому

      GT7 definitely doesn't keep getting VR updates, but they are cutting the price aggressively

  • @cory2016
    @cory2016 4 дні тому

    All vr are cool this one and big screen Beyond.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому

      Really want to try a big screen!

  • @David-nb2bc
    @David-nb2bc 3 дні тому

    I have the Big Screen Beyond and it is the lightest VR headset in the world. The resolution is excellent but the glare is the only draw back. The Pimax is a BIG brick compare to BSB and that's a big no no for me. I'm very interested in this upcoming VR headset MeganeX superlight 8K which is suppose to be 8K and same size as BSB. I can't wait for more review on this headset.

  • @FERGX12
    @FERGX12 3 дні тому

    Vr retina is 8k per eye.

  • @AL.farmlife
    @AL.farmlife 3 дні тому

    btw the biggest issue that new pimax have very low FOV when human eyes have 220 😂 and its big issue you cant sens of speed without periphial vision 😢 so triplevis better choice but for me i have no space for triples 😢

  • @Mancitydiehard
    @Mancitydiehard 4 дні тому

    What’s the point. Esports drivers don’t use VR. So clearly it makes u slower

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому +3

      100% true they don't use it. But this could be because the competitions don't allow it, or it's not comfortable for the amount of time they have to practice

    • @jarrodclyne707
      @jarrodclyne707 3 дні тому +1

      For immersion and fun not reduced lap times?

    • @David-nb2bc
      @David-nb2bc 3 дні тому

      What does esport drivers have to do with vr headsets? Not everyone is or wants to be a esport driver. People wants more immersion to the sim experience and vr can provide that.

  • @doni-sitlgaming4182
    @doni-sitlgaming4182 4 дні тому +3

    0:30 "This is a sponsored video" - I stopped right there and yeah VR is not the future, especially with those Big a$$ headsets

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  4 дні тому +2

      That's why it's important to disclose 🙌🙌

    • @betrion7
      @betrion7 3 дні тому

      ​@@Kirethso you are basically admitting you lied for sponsorship but you disclosed it so it's ok. Fun times

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  3 дні тому +4

      I haven't lied about anything - not everything is a conspiracy.

    • @betrion7
      @betrion7 3 дні тому

      @@Kireth who said it was a conspiracy? The guy above stated how he skipped the video since it's sponsored; followed by how vr is not the future since the headsead is clunky. To that you respond that's why it's important to disclose.
      I mean, you wrote it. To be fair, it's pretty much impossible to stay unbiased after receiving a product and/or sponsorship but what you wrote reads as confirmation of the OP's comment. But yeah, I'm also in crappymood so I'm probably reading into it.

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 3 дні тому +3

      @@betrion7 I'm subbed to Kireth, and watch nearly all his content. One thing above all I can say for sure about his channel is that he is HONEST.
      I think that Pimax leave much to be desired, from everything I've heard, but I've NEVER come across anything on Kireth's channel where I think he is being less than completely honest. In terms of impartiality, and integrity, in the sim racing community, I rank him alongside Karl Gosling.

  • @DigidiBoom
    @DigidiBoom 4 дні тому

    SO sony helps to manufacture lenses for pimax, but themselves using some garbage instead ?? #makeitmakesense

  • @nicholasmiron1960
    @nicholasmiron1960 День тому

    subscription for hardware. I immediatley want to stay away.
    Is this a subscription or is it financing - they are two different things. Subscription is for as long as you want to use it, with finance, once youve paid it off, you can still use it