STEEL MILL Industries You Can Model on your Model Railroad.

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  • @samh3029
    @samh3029 4 роки тому +10

    Another outstanding video. Nobody does railroad-related drone work better.

  • @ATSF1317
    @ATSF1317 4 роки тому +1

    I used to work in a scrap yard for about 10 years over here in Australia.
    You are 100% correct about the scrap being colorful. We used to get everything... refrigerators, washing machines, cars, roofing iron... just to name a few. And yes, we also received rusted metal, cast iron even railroad spikes, rail etc.
    We even had 2 trams and a steam engine tender.
    All of the non ferrous metals (copper, aluminum, electrical cable, brass etc) where all unloaded and sorted inside a huge shed, loaded into designated bins and then loaded onto a flat semi and taken to our main facility.
    We had different categories for the ferrous metals, but all that stuff was loaded into a semi with a tipper and taken to the main facility.
    I started off working in the shed but then ended up operating the excavators (magnet and grab) to unload customers that came in and to load the trucks to go out.

  • @francisresch6654
    @francisresch6654 4 роки тому +4

    You are doing a great service with your posts. Keep up the great work.

  • @andrewpalm2103
    @andrewpalm2103 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for all the great drone footage, DJ. In the mid-60's when I was in college, I worked four summers at U.S. Steel's Gary Sheet & Tin works. Specifically I was in the 30" hot strip dept. I saw a lot of steel slabs and the coils made from them. Of course, the EJ&E was the whole RR story there. There was a siding inside our building for loading gons with scrap. Boy, those cars took a real beating! I'm surprised they remained road-worthy after they were loaded.! Cheers.

  • @IMRROcom
    @IMRROcom 4 роки тому +2

    A have a Auto Scrap Stripper/Scrap yard 'Sanford and Son' on my layout. If you use google you can look up time frames it it will give the percentage of materials used to build cars. Steel, Aluminum, Plastic etc. What I have done, I used the percentages from 1960's and 1970's averaged them out for 1996 (20 Year of usage life) This gives my a good idea of metal ratios as well as junk like plastics and glass for my era. Now If we go all the way we know the percentage. I now can look up the weight of bailed/compressed material. Compare that to GB weight capacity and CuFt. So my cars are properly load and have the correct ratio of cars per materiel leaving the Auto strippers. Yes it is over the top. But I have done the same thing for the Cement and Sugar Beets as well as the cannery. Correct ratio and tonnage per product dictates the rail car traffic

  • @michaelerrett1984
    @michaelerrett1984 4 роки тому +3

    Great video DJ! Are you sure that the ends of the pipe, in the gondolas, were painted? Sometimes the ends of the pipe are threaded, for well service, and they will have a red plastic cap to protect the threads.

    • @DeathByFishing
      @DeathByFishing 4 роки тому +1

      Red paint is so they don't use the pipe for water.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      AHHH!!! THANK YOU!!!

  • @richardterek3744
    @richardterek3744 4 роки тому +3

    Again your stuff is top shelf! Seeing your videos is a great inspiration to model

  • @PghTrainFanatic
    @PghTrainFanatic 4 роки тому +2

    I have a huge blast furnace on my layout serviced but I really enjoyed your ideas and drone footage.

  • @DrewatNorDelMRRC
    @DrewatNorDelMRRC 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice video, as always!! Thanks for the great ideas and amazing content!

  • @eottoe2001
    @eottoe2001 4 роки тому

    Thanks for all the videos on operations. I've been doing modeling since I was very young but never knew how railroads worked. As I look at the steel & scrap operations in Cincinnati, Middletown and Newport, KY, it all makes sense now how they operate in unison around the Ohio River. It appears kind of haphazard if you don't have a clue what is going on but there is method in their madness. I can see the cars going back and forth from place to place and it all has its own order to it.

  • @thomassalerno5203
    @thomassalerno5203 4 роки тому +1

    Outstanding video as always. Exceptional presentation detail. This is exactly what follow & model. Didn’t know Keystone had Rail access and Galvetech serviced by CSX. The tip on coupling (the painted rail w/line) is immediately useful. Valuable info for me who is big in prototypical operations. Thanks again keep up these videos which I archive and refer back to always. Videos much appreciated!

  • @jeffbaker2897
    @jeffbaker2897 4 роки тому +1

    Great video DJ, this will certainly help me out greatly 👍 , love the drone shots. Thanks for sharing this valuable information, take care & stay safe bud. 😎👍👍👍🛤🚂

  • @TheTrainFreak
    @TheTrainFreak 4 роки тому +1

    Great video as always DJ. I might try to implement a scrap yard on my layout and your videos do give me inspiration but I know I won't have the room for a full fledged steel mill but those loaded gondolas can go to staging and return empty. Do you have anything on diesel refueling near a roundhouse? I'm modeling late steam/early diesel and wondering if the RR would have a specific track set aside to empty diesel filled tank cars to the storage containers. Thanks again!

  • @thomassalerno5203
    @thomassalerno5203 3 роки тому

    Thanks so much DJ. That’s exactly what I model the ...Pittsburgh steel scene. Your vids are not only impressive but very informative especially real company names so I can model the prototype industries on my switch lists. Thanks again!

  • @robertszallavarysullivan9570
    @robertszallavarysullivan9570 4 місяці тому

    That's a challenging shove up that trestle grade, that many loads---even with locos that have sand on a dry day for EMD SW1500's.

  • @TrainLordJC
    @TrainLordJC 4 роки тому

    Thanks for these videos. I have shared them with several of our HO scale train layout club members because we are in the process of building our own steel mill industry. Your videos are educational. Thank you from the Train Lord in South Australia a long way away from this epic action. I just subscribed to your channel.

  • @jolliemark6294
    @jolliemark6294 4 роки тому

    DJ as always you give us great ideas and you are right not everything is covered in rust, I'm trying to get Griffen Wheel Works on my layout, they used a lot of scrap to make wheels for rail cars back in the days they where in Colton CA....thanks for sharing the great videos....Jack

  • @oldskool1807
    @oldskool1807 4 роки тому

    As usual, excellent video DJ. And as far as the painted ends of the pipes, I know from driving a truck for 40 years and hauling anything and everything on a flatbed, that in some cases the color of the painted ends is a quick indicator of the size or diameter of the pipe so there is no confusion when loading.

  • @v4victory665
    @v4victory665 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video DJ !!! 👍 your drone skills are really doing a great job capturing the scenes. The scrap yard was cool and all the towers in the area grabbed my attention. Great Work and thanks 💯 👏👏👍

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite 4 роки тому

    I used to love going by those industries. I never was assigned to service them. I've always liked scrapyards, esp. with the magnetic cranes.
    Two more RR names from my past: Jerry Kirk and Dan Stuckey. Oh, and two trainmasters at Connellsville named Koster and Ruck. One at Glenwood named Dan something. A huge guy they called Butch.

  • @dynamicloco2186
    @dynamicloco2186 4 роки тому +1

    Your vids are the best. Thanks for sharing.

  • @JanusLoggie
    @JanusLoggie 4 роки тому +1

    Cool video DJ!

  • @williamfindspeople4341
    @williamfindspeople4341 4 роки тому

    Great content. I use a flashing transmitter on my scrap yard to make it look like somebody is working with a cutting torch and I also make my chain link fences using scrap screen. You can use the old metal type and you can solder it or you can use the cloth and then paint it silver.

  • @KevinSquire
    @KevinSquire 4 роки тому

    Great work!! I live near all of these places - drive by them regularly. It is so cool to see them all from a different view. (and to get a view of the DuraBond site like that was great for my current project!! )

  • @phillipsakalik4877
    @phillipsakalik4877 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video as always! It’s cool to know those local facilities are owned by Steel Dynamics because ScaleTrains’ coil cars come with SDI stickers to wrap the coils with. Do you happen to know if the coils they (SDI) ship out are wrapped?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому +1

      look at their website, maybe they have more pics. i usually work it at night and from the engine. maybe if by truck?

  • @RonsTrainsNThings
    @RonsTrainsNThings 4 роки тому

    Great info, DJ. My modeling location is far from the steel mills but I still model a prototype pipe maker and scrap metal facility. Coil cars and gondolas abound.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому +1

      I bought another gondola yesterday. Didn't NEED it, but couldn't help it. My favorite cars.

  • @highballinghogger
    @highballinghogger 4 роки тому

    Another fantastic video DJ always look forward to them so interesting and informative thanks for sharing and keep them coming ! Stay safe and keep on HIGHBALLING HOGGER 👉

  • @gregbowen617
    @gregbowen617 4 роки тому

    Wow, excellent video DJ! You presented an entirely new perspective on the scrapyard... using the drone shows the whole operation... something that is not possible at ground level! Great stuff! Cheers from Melbourne Australia.

  • @JoeyBPhotography
    @JoeyBPhotography 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video as always, love all the details and of course the amazing drone footage. What really makes these videos great, in my opinion, is that the angles you get are almost the same viewing angles we have when looking at our model railroads! It's so easy to visualize when planning a scene

    • @tristanhouston7140
      @tristanhouston7140 3 роки тому

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      I was dumb forgot my account password. I would love any help you can offer me!

    • @codyjeffrey7270
      @codyjeffrey7270 3 роки тому

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    • @tristanhouston7140
      @tristanhouston7140 3 роки тому

      @Cody Jeffrey I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
      Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.

  • @jdmills4370
    @jdmills4370 4 роки тому

    DJ-
    Each pipe also carries painted markings that will help the installer by providing information on the pipe length, identify pipe suitable for field cutting and assist in the proper installation of the material.
    Lifted that from the www. Good prototype info though to make realistic loads. Some have line around circumference to indicate it’s pushed “home” during install...

  • @brucecarlson2999
    @brucecarlson2999 4 роки тому

    I really enjoy your videos on the steel industry, the BOF operation as well as the coke plant. I am attempting to model some of the steel industry in the Pittsburgh area. The information from your videos helps me model it correctly.

  • @doublediamondrailroad5949
    @doublediamondrailroad5949 3 роки тому

    Been building up a small Foundry. Aluminum Scrap to products. Just added a second siding for storing empties or loads for Switching.
    Consists of an old small plant and a new modern steel building. Will be a third building n the Complex. Want to get it to 2 Stories. Just added 2 52’ Gondolas to serve it. Total of 4-5. Empties or with Scrap Loads. Plus have Coke Hoppers. All in N Scale. It’s developing into a good Switching point.

  • @zonegamma8197
    @zonegamma8197 4 роки тому

    Super cool video
    These are the one i prefer, real life examples of industries to give us a view from the air and some explanations
    Thanks alot

  • @RWSBaden
    @RWSBaden 4 роки тому

    Another great video DJ, thanks for sharing it. Sadly once that new rolling mill is finished at the Edgar Thompson Works, that will probably mean the end of the slab trains to West Mifflin and the Irvin Works. Rich S.

  • @nedmerrill5705
    @nedmerrill5705 4 роки тому +1

    Good stuff DJ!

  • @sonnypruitt6639
    @sonnypruitt6639 4 роки тому +2

    Hay DJ, when are you going to start djsdrones? Instructional videos on operating and making aerial videos. Huh? Got ya thinkin?!

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      I have started a second channel for drone videos, but haven't uploaded much yet. It is blueyondervideo

    • @sonnypruitt6639
      @sonnypruitt6639 4 роки тому

      @@djstrains Well there you go! I'm glad I suggested it! Can I get a cut?

  • @brianrooney2970
    @brianrooney2970 4 роки тому

    Man I learn a lot watching these, and from reading the comments too. Good stuff, thanks for taking the time to do these.

  • @michaelmartin6734
    @michaelmartin6734 4 роки тому

    DJ, I noticed yesterday that the new building near the main gate at ET totally blocks the view of Kennywood when driving on Braddock Ave.

  • @joelvale3887
    @joelvale3887 4 роки тому +3

    The scrap yard on my layout is rusted because it went out of business.

  • @mysticrailroad
    @mysticrailroad 4 роки тому

    great video dj. thank you.

  • @Cryptonymicus
    @Cryptonymicus 4 роки тому +3

    Probably modelers need to distinguish between "scrap yards" and "junkyards" and "auto wrecking yards."

  • @DruSteel69
    @DruSteel69 4 роки тому

    Awesome video, Dj. Happy Father’s Day.

  • @jacjac5761
    @jacjac5761 4 роки тому

    I want to do a steel mill on a point to point but I'm trying to figure out if rail wheels be a good idea. What you think?

  • @sofreak6
    @sofreak6 4 роки тому

    Great video. Just great ideas. I am an HO scale modeler and i have 4 new coil cars

  • @Ken-Kaef
    @Ken-Kaef 4 роки тому

    Thanks for posting. great ideas for modelling Like Train lord a fellow club member we are in the process of trying to model the steel industry on the club layout the Southern Centra RR which is of US. outline. I especially liked seeing how your industries fitted into the landscape which is so much different to our land scape here in South Aus. I have subscribed also.
    Cheers Ken.

  • @KerleyExpress
    @KerleyExpress 4 роки тому

    great video and some great shots and ideas for a layout

  • @nscaleallisonvilleindustri9933
    @nscaleallisonvilleindustri9933 4 роки тому

    Another great informative video. Thank you!

  • @chuckd7800
    @chuckd7800 3 роки тому

    👍👍 bring back our manufacturing jobs
    🚂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @jdmills4370
    @jdmills4370 4 роки тому

    @3:00 excellent prototype example of curved yard ladder/curved turnouts to save space....

  • @towny72
    @towny72 4 роки тому +1

    The future of URR runs to Irvin.
    The good news is that the end of slab production will not be the end of 76 crew running to Irvin. In fact this will possibly increase movements to the Irvin works. The process at ET will only produce raw coils and these coils will be "thick" or a heavy gauge. These coils will be shipped via the URR to Irvin for finishing. The ratio of slabs to coils I am told is at minimal 4:1 so that is going to be a lot of coils going up the hill! Due to the geography and space inside ET the coil trains will be limited in size so this will likely result in a extra turn or two a day.

    • @towny72
      @towny72 4 роки тому

      We are being told that the likely candidate for the cars to handle these raw coils will be GRW coil cars, there are quite a lot of these in storage all over the URR. I would suspect that the hoods will be scrapped. I also understand this process will slightly increase coil scrap from Irvin back to ET.

  • @stevemckeown6277
    @stevemckeown6277 3 роки тому

    Good modeling info as always

  • @andyknott8148
    @andyknott8148 4 роки тому

    I have been told that the ends of the pipe are not coated so it can be welded (internal or externally) without the coating preventing a good weld. They paint the ends, to protect them in transit and storage from the elements, with a paint that will easily come off with a wire brush just before its welded.

  • @jerrysinclair3771
    @jerrysinclair3771 4 роки тому

    Lots of information!

  • @deannascott3475
    @deannascott3475 2 роки тому

    Doing what is now done at the Irvin rolling mill works at the Mon Valley Works site like was mentioned, that is part of the improvement project that was cancelled, right?. So they are keeping the Irvin Works as is then?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  2 роки тому +1

      That is my current understanding.

  • @andrewl9191
    @andrewl9191 10 місяців тому

    I've seen a lot of your videos and they're great! I came across this one because I'm considering modelling part of the Garrett Subdivision, so in Indiana, and part of it has a big section with SDI north of St. Joe. There are a LOT of steel related businesses there. I'm thinking about this being one far point, a couple places in between with grain and plastic pellets, and then Garrett yard. I won't really have a way to run any through freights that don't pertain to these. Any thoughts? I'm not sure what kinds of cars would work best for SDI. I've seen the stuff on Google maps, but again, there's just so much it's overwhelming, and I don't know enough.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  10 місяців тому +1

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    • @andrewlaverghetta715
      @andrewlaverghetta715 9 місяців тому

      @@djstrainsthanks DJ! I’ll check it out. I’m here on my personal account. I’m very much in the planning process, but perhaps looking into this will help me decide.

  • @scottericcatalano596
    @scottericcatalano596 4 роки тому +1

    Good shooting....too bad the sintering plant isn't still open up towards Greenville....would of been perfect for drone flying....when I worked the slab train if the tracks were wet from rain and dew/fog in the morning it took a few tries going up the hill even the best engineer had issues....this will be short lived....once the new expansion is done this sight will be long gone...IF they ever get it built.

  • @danvollmer6459
    @danvollmer6459 4 роки тому

    I used to design filtration systems for steel rolling mills (mini-mills) for Steel Dynamics, Nucor, etc

  • @Fallenhalo88
    @Fallenhalo88 4 роки тому

    The red painted ends could be for field fit welds

  • @Gpa129872
    @Gpa129872 4 роки тому

    Hi D J my name is Greg I have a question for you how does the CSX Lay-off affect you up there in the northern part of the country? Do you expect to get furloughed behind the layoffs? I live in Atlanta I’m close to Folkston Georgia , Waycross Georgia.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому +1

      They furloughed about a hundred guys below me in seniority. They created a short term conductor reserve board which ended recently. I was 4 away from being cut to conductor after 21 years! The business is slowly coming back, but they refuse to bring back enough guys to handle it, and trains sit. They just make 1 train out of 3. I had 4 trains in one recently. GREED PURE GREED, so they don't have to pay insurance and benefits. Meanwhile, we are exhausted from covering the nearby pools that are understaffed.

  • @cp368productions2
    @cp368productions2 4 роки тому +1

    Painting the end is likely to designate it's use.
    It took me 6 tries to get a video recorded on the part of my layout that will have the 30' long 2.5' deep steel mill that will move 1,072 cars per op session.

  • @toddw6716
    @toddw6716 4 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @steelcitytrains1509
    @steelcitytrains1509 Рік тому

    What is the local that serves SDI Galvtech and Keystone Iron? I’ve lived near there all my life and never seen it happen.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  Рік тому

      L161 local out of Demmler, 7 pm start. Only when needed, not guaranteed 7 days.

  • @rickchapman9232
    @rickchapman9232 4 роки тому

    If you had 4miles of loaded coal hoppers how many locomotives would you need to pull them and would it be better to spread the locomotives out?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      2 engines pulled 1.5 miles today. So 5 engines, 2 in front, 2 in mid, 1 at rear would make this scenario possible, but very unlikely due to our infrastructure isn't designed for it.

  • @photosbyjf
    @photosbyjf Рік тому

    where is this scene at 0:12, Pittsburg area I am thinking. I had to deliver a load of aluminum siding and was down in that area yrs ago I believe

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  Рік тому

      Edgar Thomson steel mill. Union rr by Westinghouse bridge. in East Pittsburgh

  • @martinhanley23
    @martinhanley23 4 роки тому

    Great video

  • @larrystewart3492
    @larrystewart3492 3 роки тому

    Those buildings at 5:00 mark are HUGE.

  • @MrPCC
    @MrPCC 4 роки тому

    The ends of the pipe are red probably because if they slide you will see the end before it hits you or you hit it.

  • @jsrogers6464
    @jsrogers6464 4 роки тому

    Pipe loads. Now I got something to do with my gondolas.

  • @kenshores9900
    @kenshores9900 4 роки тому +3

    They paint epoxy primer on the ends to slow corrosion.

    • @kenshores9900
      @kenshores9900 4 роки тому +1

      Good video. Wished that someone would do stuff about the L&N before the mega mergers. Lots of American history involves railroads the people that built them and even the major owners themselves.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      I live very far away so it wasn't one that I knew a lot about. Maybe someone reading this can put together a video. I was born in 1970 but didn't start taking pics and videos of trains until after the mergers like you mentioned. Huge regret.

    • @kenshores9900
      @kenshores9900 4 роки тому +1

      @@djstrains CSX is a mega merger. I will have to review who all is involved. The C comes from the Chessie System (C&O/B&O the first railroad in America, and SCL Seaboard Coast Line. There are many lines included (L&N, Western Maryland, Pete Marqute, GeorgiaRail Road, Clinchfield Railroad just to mention a few). Then there is the PPR and New York Central (Penn Central) which became Conrail after bankruptcy. This is all in CSX. I can’t forget Monon and several others. This is half of the US!

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      @@kenshores9900 THIS IS WHY WE NEED HERITAGE UNITS!! Lol

    • @kenshores9900
      @kenshores9900 4 роки тому

      @@djstrains Rail roads were built to carry products such as steel and oil. Oil is far cheaper to transport in pipe lines than on trains. However millions of tons of chemicals are still transported. So if you are modeling then you have to have such places along your tracks. One last thing. One of the list railroads of Indiana is the Monon. It went from Chicago to Louisville. However they came on the scene to late and did own entry to either city. There is a hard cover book on this railroad. Many stories but to short of time to tell them. Indians Railway museum runs an excursion train on a remaining portion of their tracks in Southern Indiana.

  • @keithlewis9106
    @keithlewis9106 4 роки тому

    The red ends are cap, plastic, to protect the ends from damage

  • @georgehasler142
    @georgehasler142 4 роки тому

    Is there any reason why CSX use numbers and not letters like BNSF and UP,,?

    • @cp368productions2
      @cp368productions2 4 роки тому

      NS, CSX, CP and CN use numbers, only BNSF, UP and KCS use letters.
      Each series is for a specific type of train. Like CSX 000-099 are high priority Intermodal.

  • @sernajrlouis
    @sernajrlouis 4 роки тому

    I am now gonna rewatch both parts on how steel is made. Lol

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 4 роки тому

    In G scale you could make a steel mill that actually operates and pours a glowing liquid into hot metal cars

    • @154Colin
      @154Colin 4 роки тому

      Now that would be cool!

  • @Rush96767
    @Rush96767 4 роки тому

    Have you ever seen the movie unstoppable? If so what did you think of it?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      FRUSTRATING! So many things were impossible.

    • @Rush96767
      @Rush96767 4 роки тому

      @@djstrains Yes definitely so!! Also, check out the game train sim world 2020 with csx in it!

    • @zonegamma8197
      @zonegamma8197 4 роки тому

      @@djstrains but it is good entertainment! :)

  • @154Colin
    @154Colin 4 роки тому

    From what I can gather from doing the "Google on the Internet Machine" it is primer coat to protect the bare ferrous metal. Beyond that it's a guess why it is. Arsinio (sp?) Hall you to say, "Things that make you go hmmm?"

  • @oneeyedhacker715
    @oneeyedhacker715 4 роки тому

    0:12 you got 2 trains in 1 shot hmm

  • @scottpecorino6320
    @scottpecorino6320 4 роки тому +3

    If you ever get arrested for flying the drone I will help bail you out. The pictures are grat thanks

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      I follow all the laws. Now that I am licensed, I was able to obtain authorization to fly within 5 mies of the county airport, which allowed me to finally get the shots!

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 4 роки тому

    Just make the whole layout a steel mill :-D

    • @cp368productions2
      @cp368productions2 4 роки тому

      30'x2.5' steel mill eventually will be put on my future layout with an around 20'x2.5' yard just for the steel mill.

  • @40093jjmia
    @40093jjmia 3 роки тому

    Me sees the title " I model what I want too bad"

  • @fiercetrains4052
    @fiercetrains4052 2 роки тому

    You wouldn’t mind talking about a flor mill right?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  2 роки тому

      a flour mill? I don't think there are any near me. Is there one that you had in mind?

  • @jh4009
    @jh4009 4 роки тому

    Do u not like csx ? 😂

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому

      they cut 70% of the workforce

    • @jh4009
      @jh4009 4 роки тому

      They did tho 🦚