I’m just wondering why Tyrone, a man who claims to have a severe phobia of trains, would stand on a bridge over a train track with a train coming for the full 45 seconds you have to make the choice. This man is not who he says he is.
@@tompumpkin2076 alpha has a tendency to getting to coky and overconfidant and flying to close to the witch has already backfired tremendously for him, much like icarus
My favorite part of this video was when the trolley was about to hit Dash, but then he made an anti-perspirant joke so funny that Jacob diverted the track and killed Jo.
Can’t believe we are blessed with a hour, 28 minutes and 8 seconds of content to enjoy. I wonder if there was any more wholesome content from this they forgot to record.
Having all the levers pointing to the left was indeed impossible. You can only have an even number of levers pointing to the left, since at any time if you always flip 2 and you start with an even number of levers pointing to the left. As you want to have 3, and odd number, of levers pointing to the left, the problem is impossible
"I thought he just flew too close to the sun, did he die?! Really?! Oh my god the sun is hot that does make sense" is just one of the most beautiful things I've heard in a long time
Alpha: Dark-haired women who are a little evil make me happy Jo: Redheads for me Alpha: Dude, you gotta watch the Castlevania anime This man really just said "Allow me to introduce you to Lenore" and...I get it. I respect it 100%.
The Question at 16:30 is actually a reference to something that happened during the aids crisis, as people with aids participating in studies would be give placebos only to die because they weren't getting real treatment, so its very interesting that they made that a moral quandary in this game
This at the time was and likely still is a major moral decision as it would indeed lead to the experiments and treatments for aids prevention we have now allowing millions including my own uncle to live for those hopeful lives to die. It’s difficult as making sure they were happy would’ve likely caused them more pain with the treatment at the time but they wouldn’t have false hope. (The patients shared the working drug regardless and yes it may not have impeded progress but this was newer territory at the time so many professionals would likely have preferred to check all potentials) regardless, It’s rough and still applies to vaccines to this day especially with the recent COVID pandemic. It’s chilling to consider and think about too deeply.
Alpharads health, much like icarus, will one day fly too close to the sun of health. The doctor’s, seeing his hubris for daring to be so full of vitality, will strike him down for his organs. Exactly how Jacob wanted them to
I do think The Trolley Problem's biggest weakness is it's binary decision-making system. I think that's what keeps it from being a good moral dilemma; every time it presents a problem, it acts like there's no gray area. It's like the real life Star Wars: Mid-Tier with a moral high ground complex
Well yeah it's a thought experiment of a single example not an all-purpose applicable tool Unless you mean the game, in which case the whole point is it's manipulative and silly for the sake of comedy. It's hardly meant to be taken seriously after about the 3rd question
This reminds me of an interview I did Where someone managed to slip "Except jaywalkers, if you're jaywalking you deserve to die." Into their answer. Only for us to cut out all personal information, Which means they just sound like a psycho, Because this was one of the few sentences that wasn't cut, And had no context whatsoever. Hashtag Ethics Committee Approved
The Ai car hitting a kid running into the road brings up an interesting question for me, IF AI driven cars do get to the point where they'll swerve off the road and possibly kill the passenger to save a pedestrian, would that be a really roundabout way to commit murder?
I'm pretty sure that's the exact plot of "I, Robot". The AI robots have 3 laws that they can't disobey, and prevent them from bringing harm to humans, and these laws were used in order to have the robots commit untraceable murder or something. It's been a while since I saw it.
I love how Alpha immediately invented a false reason for why it was ok to to kill the tourist. That tourist was not, in fact, offering his life to save the patients.
I do think Jacob’s biggest weakness in this game is his dying. I feel like that’s what keeps him being a relatively average dog, every time he sits on the train tracks he acts like he’s invincible. He’s like the real life trolley: mid tier with a philosophical complex
Icarus is locked in a tower, with no means of escaping. You have the choice to construct wax wings, which will allow him to fly away; however, he will all but certainly fly too close to the sun and perish. Do you condem Icarus to imprisionment for the rest of his life, or grant him short lived freedom?
I cannot express how unbelievably perfectly this suited your guys' sense of humor Also _the moment_ was just divine luck, this is easily my new favorite video on the channel
That fact that Alpha didn’t actually know the story of Icarus is fucking hilarious. To those who don’t, the reason flying too close to the sun was a problem was because Daedalus made the wings out of wax. He warned Icarus not to fly too high, but Icarus ignored him and fell to his death when his wings melted.
17:55 hits the nail on the head. You can argue that cars are the invasive species, that by stepping behind the wheel you're accepting responsibility for your two-ton hulking brick of death, but no one will buy the car that kills the payer instead of the pedestrian. No one will fund the research, making it not a question of "is this right" but rather "do you want self-driving cars at all? coward."
After watching it all, I honestly feel you could do some really interesting studies on Jacob and how his decisions and reactions changed (or didn't) as time went on. Was actually pretty interesting seeing him abandon responsibility as things got more and more real!
11:54 Ah yes, the classic wayfaring stranger dilemma. Someone who has no idea what’s going on can be killed “for the greater good” and they have no connections in the area. The thing that separates this from the trolly problem is that they would have nothing to do with the situation if nobody forced them to. If you want to take a random passerby’s organs then get yourself an x-ray, you probably could find some in there… maybe even a heart! The original one I heard is about getting a scapegoat to appease a mob so this chance won’t come every time.
Okay I'll be honest I was really confused at the vaccination one because I thought they were saying that the 1 in 5 chance to make the children ill was greater than the actual presence of the disease in the population, since it said "much worse than the virus itself." So I'll have an "I need to learn how to read" with a side of "I'm a heccin moron" if nobody minds.
No, that's exactly what it said, the disease may be anywhere from 1-in-6 to 1-in-no one else gets sick, but the vaccine is guaranteed to be 1-in-5 or worse. "the 'cure' is worse than the disease" is a common moral issue brought up IRL. The only moral reason brought up that I'm aware of for forcing it without consent is that "their deaths lead to research". However, there is a chance the vaccine, being so new and barely tested, could potentially cause the virus to mutate and become deadlier rather than actually fight it off. So, there isn't any reason to actually do it unless you work for the corporations that make bank off the sickness. Of course, in reality, even if they didn't force it just one person willingly taking it can doom the rest as the vaccine spreads just as easily as most viruses. Despite how clear this issue should be, most people still prefer to take the drugs because of placebo effect, it may actually make them sicker, or cause more deaths than the virus, BUT they were assured it'd help so they feel more relaxed and assume things are improving. And the doctors have something to give patients rather than sitting around telling them there is nothing they can do because they haven't found a cure they can profit off of. Which in turn improves morale among the doctors as they otherwise would have no way of helping their patients calm down.
Ok, I'm going to be honest here, the organ problem is just a version of the second half the trolly problem that someone actually thought about, because it can't be completely destroyed by just asking "how". However, I do like how this game just overall takes how stupid every single varient of the trolly problem is and ramps it up to 10 once trollys are ditched and "real" applications of the problem are involved. Like, Dash continually calling out how the Binary options start to make no sense really feels like the intended reaction here, cause, like, it is dumb as hell to look at two binary options and decide you have to take one instead of looking into other options. (Especially since we did that during the AIDS epidemic, and not only did it backfire (patents shared working drugs amoung themselves because holy fuck, no one wants to die), but it also *didn't impede progress at all to save everyone* because *not every fucking scenario needs a control group*.) That being said I'm glad y'all went with the funny options cause they're funny as shit.
I played this before watching and my morals typically were about were people accepting some level of risk in their actions like, I'm not gonna push Tyrone in front of the trolley cause the 5 people on the track accepted some level of risk by being on the track, same for Polly but if both people are at the same level of danger, like in the classic trolley problem, I switch the track, they're both on the track and have accepted the risk of being hit by the trolley EDIT: I love what Jacob says when he gets to the prisoners dilemma cause it's the exact same as my moral principles, "Every time I'm in a situation like this I always want to trust the best in people and it has screwed me over constantly and I'm willing to do it again" like I know from a game theory perspective you should always betray but I trust people to be good and I rather do that and get screwed over than screw someone over because I didn't believe in them
18:50 In my opinion the answer should be to do whatever the legal procedure for the situation is Why only prioritize saving others or save the passengers? The car should do whatever a legal driver is supposed to do in a situation.
44:45 It's not possible! We can see this by a parity argument: suppose we have 2 levers in the left and 1 in the right. No matter which 2 we choose, we will still have an even number of levers in the left position (so either 2 left and 1 right or 0 left and 3 right). Therefore it's not possible to have all 3 levers in the left position.
I've never been a fan of the organ theft question - if all 5 recipients could be saved by one donor, that means all but one of each of their organs is working fine and each one needs a different organ. The most sensible utilitarian thing to do would actually be to kill one of the organ recipients and use their working organs to save the other 4. Of the 6 people, 5 survive, and the only person who died would have died anyway, unlike the option to kill a random healthy person.
The 3 lever bomb problem is in fact impossible. Let 0 represent a lever to the left and a 1 represent a lever to the right. Note that the sum of the original positions is 1. Note also that by flipping two levers you have to change the sum by 2. Note that if they are all to the left, the sum would be 0. After each move, you will still have an odd sum and therefore you can never get it to 0
lmao I love that it took Dash Jo and Jacob THREE abortion questions to understand they're being quizzed on their opinions of abortion. The violinist problem is an argument over forced abortion: The violinist would die without you, but in 9 months he could be on his own, but you'd have to give up 9 months of your life for that to happen. The original problem is "the violinist is hooked up to someone else in a coma, but suddenly they wake up and wish to live their life. They demand you unhook the violinist from them, but doing so would kill the violinist. Do you force them to keep the violinist alive for 9 months, after which let them go?" which is the "Can you force someone to carry a child and not abort?" Following, the "You were drugged and now there's a tenant" argues for drunken accidental pregnancies, one could argue rape by lack of conscience. Lastly, FINALLY they get they're talking about abortion, "The baby will kill you if you carry it. Kill you, or kill the baby?" The argument, obviously, is "I can always have another baby."
The funny part is those questions were explicitly a child, on a Cliffside road, going into a tunnel. Like, I get some houses are in funky spots, but you're designing for absolutely negligent edge cases at that point.
1:13:00 is supposed to be an abortion allegory I believe, despite some key differences. With Abortion, you are stopping a life from starting, but in this problem, you are killing someone who already exists. As such, abortion is completely fine, but in this case of the violinist I would stay. Completely different scenarios. Same goes for the expanding child problem.
Imagine Jeff Bezos walking through the middle of a highway as thousands of cars immediately swerve past him due to his ultimate protection And then a few days later thousands of corrupt cars are on a manhunt for Jeff Bezos
So apparently, it IS possible to save the dog by pressing the x in the upper right corner without advancing the question, it apparently gives you the option to save it. I don’t have the game so I don’t know personally if it’s true, but I got annoyed at how much they antagonize you for it from watching others play it and decided to look into it Edit:Also you guys were joking about the racist car, but that’s legit a problem self driving cars have. They struggle to identify black people currently. Obviously they’re trying to fix that but yeah.
@@rthanejehxbejws oh I know, but they bring the dog up specifically and “why didn’t you save it again?” So many times when it’s (mostly?) impossible to save it
Such a sad tale. Much like Icarus, in when he flew much too closely to the sun, his wax wings melting and causing him to fall to the ground. Spoiler alert: *Icarus dies in the end.*
Jacob: "I'd rather not have to take the illegal route and perform malpractice, cause then I'd get in trouble" But also Jacob: *Kills one random innocent person and harvests their organs for 5 sick people simply because they're a tourist.* All preceded by him saying he's answering this as seriously as possible. Never change lmao 🤣
15:48 jumpscare warning Also this is here because the young girl earlier was "destined" to become a doctor, if you saved her then she could've saved people here
Aren’t there several flashes throughout the game? That’s not the only one right? To be more specific, the dog during the Tommy question and the grim reaper guy during the baby question
"Your sins can no longer be ignored; Beelzebub summons you for crimes against humanity. The sentence will stand with no prospect of future contest or appeal" - The Phantom Thieves
I'ma be real the part where you choose between the five trespassers and the coworker in the beginning tilts me more than it should. "I guess you value criminals over co-workers then. Noted." Fuck right off game, what about them being criminals forfeits their fucking lives?
Lmao! As soon as I saw the “you are being told to shoot the person on your left” part, it reminded me of that TikTok sound. “The person on your left…*bang*… he is my son, whom I love very dearly.”
For the “car driving and is gonna run over child or you’ll lose something/someone else” problems, it doesn’t say there are other cars on the road, so just hit the breaks and stop the car
"do you guys know my favorite thing about this game? It's less then 3 hours long, to the steam refund page I go!" The game immediately after: "Please, I beg you, don't refund me!" 1:11:32
"A lot of AI only recognises white men" Sounds like just a funny line, but it's kinda true... If you give the code certain info it's very easy to make your AI racist or sexist, unfortunately. Obviously if you know this you should try to avoid it, but some people just do it inadvertendtly, for an example check Answer In Progress' video about k-pop artists.
I’m just wondering why Tyrone, a man who claims to have a severe phobia of trains, would stand on a bridge over a train track with a train coming for the full 45 seconds you have to make the choice. This man is not who he says he is.
Tru
there's one answer, he's a masochist
Exposure therapy
@@bagfaceman1656 this
@@bagfaceman1656 well he exposed himself to death
The Trolley Problem-
Either you pull the lever and a British woman gaslights you, or you don't pull the lever and a British woman gaslights you.
Get thrashed on Twitter for beating a British woman.
what a girlboss tbh
i live in britain and this happens to me every day
@@ioncavegrandma9256 you push a fat guy onto trolley tracks?
does the lever actually do anything or is it just decorational?
"Children Killed: 1"
"People Killed: 1"
I think I understand this game's tone already.
Children aren’t people clearly
I got that score yesterday too! I only learnt of this game today though and I think its interesting
@@greteb1951 true
@@happyclam2705 o h .
@@greteb1951 you can tell they think that because of the abortion questions
Game: This is supposed to be a moral Dilemma
Dash: “Let’s call this the *g e n o c i d e r o u t e*
Almost as funny as his antiperspirant joke
I might actually try that at some point if I find out what this game is called.
@@shapeshifterk trolley problem inc
sans underperspirant
It's just like undertale
36:20 the fact that even an AI can recognize Jacob's icarus complex is fucking hilarious to me
That was truly an Icarus moment if I’ve ever seen one on this channel
The trolly problems biggest issue is it’s cockiness.
Can you elaborate?
@@tompumpkin2076 alpha has a tendency to getting to coky and overconfidant and flying to close to the witch has already backfired tremendously for him, much like icarus
@@maninhu9837
He truly is a midtier with an Icarus complex.
My favorite part of this video was when the trolley was about to hit Dash, but then he made an anti-perspirant joke so funny that Jacob diverted the track and killed Jo.
dash antiperspirant joke is funny. 😭😏😑😌🧐🤗🤨🤗🥱🧐😏😶🤗🧐😌😖🤯😪🤥🤑👹🤑👹🤠💙🤍💙♥️🦷👣👣🫂👣👣🤝🦵🏿👎🤲👐👊🖖🦶🏿🦶🏻🦶🏼🦶🏽🦶🏾🦶🏿🤚👎👐👉🤦👉🧍🏋️🚶🏋️🚶🧕🧑🎤🧑🎓🧑🎤🧕🥀💮💮🍁🌿
high brow antiperspirant jokes
Average dashmaster enjoyer
@@devoutmordexfollower5289 at least it’s not sprintmaster
@@zakirbakar3540 bro what do youeam at least it's not, dashmaster is goated
Calling out Jacob's icarus complex after canceling him is the best part of the episode
Yes I was looking for #CancelAlpha
I loved when Jacob said “it’s Alpha time” and radded all over those people
I loved when Dakotah said "it's YIIKin' time" and YIIKed all over those people
I loved it when Jacob said "It's baddin' time" and drunk tweeted "Megalovania"
I loved it when your dead body was found in the river 04:36:22 ACST 3rd august
@@ChristopherMoom *Meglavonio
@@RandomUser11170 *Meglavonia
It feels like with this game Jo is the devil on Alpharad’s shoulder, and Altrive is also a devil on the other shoulder
dash can’t be the devil he’s too wholesome
@SoccChester There's no angel, only a mid tier with an icarus complex.
And alpharad is just Lucifer
He’s a wholesome devil
theyre both on the same shoulder and the other shoulder is just empty
Can’t believe we are blessed with a hour, 28 minutes and 8 seconds of content to enjoy. I wonder if there was any more wholesome content from this they forgot to record.
I hope they remembered to record dash’s antiperspirant joke!!!
um actually its and hour and 28 minutes and 8 seconds
@@elysianhex2007 I apologize for my non-wholesomeness, I shall fix it.
@@abumwiththedrip thank you my friend now you are very wholesome
an hour*
Having all the levers pointing to the left was indeed impossible. You can only have an even number of levers pointing to the left, since at any time if you always flip 2 and you start with an even number of levers pointing to the left. As you want to have 3, and odd number, of levers pointing to the left, the problem is impossible
Thank you for finding the invariant lordmudkip73
@@lidaco parity is like the most common one
kind of like the burger
They can stay all on the right-hand side tho 😞
@@adewilliam9047
It's a trick with how the thing was set up to begin with. Meant to give a glimmer of hope before despair or panic sets in
"I thought he just flew too close to the sun, did he die?! Really?! Oh my god the sun is hot that does make sense" is just one of the most beautiful things I've heard in a long time
The fact that they play a game where you have to read is kinda insane
Reading was nessecary for the Goonya Fighters video, by far the most story based deluxe vid.
I thought that they were illiterate
jo never red in his life 💁🏼
Jo would never learn to read
@@burniged Its actually "read"
Alpha: Dark-haired women who are a little evil make me happy
Jo: Redheads for me
Alpha: Dude, you gotta watch the Castlevania anime
This man really just said "Allow me to introduce you to Lenore" and...I get it. I respect it 100%.
Happens at 1:08:52 in case anyone is curious
The Question at 16:30 is actually a reference to something that happened during the aids crisis, as people with aids participating in studies would be give placebos only to die because they weren't getting real treatment, so its very interesting that they made that a moral quandary in this game
This at the time was and likely still is a major moral decision as it would indeed lead to the experiments and treatments for aids prevention we have now allowing millions including my own uncle to live for those hopeful lives to die. It’s difficult as making sure they were happy would’ve likely caused them more pain with the treatment at the time but they wouldn’t have false hope. (The patients shared the working drug regardless and yes it may not have impeded progress but this was newer territory at the time so many professionals would likely have preferred to check all potentials) regardless, It’s rough and still applies to vaccines to this day especially with the recent COVID pandemic. It’s chilling to consider and think about too deeply.
Alpharads health, much like icarus, will one day fly too close to the sun of health. The doctor’s, seeing his hubris for daring to be so full of vitality, will strike him down for his organs. Exactly how Jacob wanted them to
I do think The Trolley Problem's biggest weakness is it's binary decision-making system. I think that's what keeps it from being a good moral dilemma; every time it presents a problem, it acts like there's no gray area. It's like the real life Star Wars: Mid-Tier with a moral high ground complex
W comment
It's like the real life Undertale: mid tier with a yiik complex
Well yeah it's a thought experiment of a single example not an all-purpose applicable tool
Unless you mean the game, in which case the whole point is it's manipulative and silly for the sake of comedy. It's hardly meant to be taken seriously after about the 3rd question
This was a thing that I enjoyed
That’s why it’s good
"Tresspassers aren't people" is my biggest takeaway from this episode of Jo and the Gang
Tresspassers aren't people but that coworker shouldnt have been standing there, his bad.
This reminds me of an interview I did
Where someone managed to slip
"Except jaywalkers, if you're jaywalking you deserve to die."
Into their answer.
Only for us to cut out all personal information,
Which means they just sound like a psycho,
Because this was one of the few sentences that wasn't cut,
And had no context whatsoever.
Hashtag Ethics Committee Approved
"sell me on it"
"They're so tiny they're little dudes!"
"Okay yeah you're right"
45:45
Yes lmfao
This woman straight gaslighting all of them by forcing them to choose the worst stuff
Also I love how Jacob is surprised Icarus died.
no he's surprised by the mention of icarus because that's a demon that has haunted him
It's so sad to see how trainsphobic Tyrone is. I stand for trains rights.
Everyone knows Tyrone hates the trains rights movement, Alpharad made the right call there.
🚂🚃 🏳⚧
Truly Tyrone deserved to have his life canceled.
@@blustr5753 uh wrong flag. You should of used the trains flag.
@@blustr5753 stop making light of the real issue of trains rights
The Ai car hitting a kid running into the road brings up an interesting question for me, IF AI driven cars do get to the point where they'll swerve off the road and possibly kill the passenger to save a pedestrian, would that be a really roundabout way to commit murder?
I'm pretty sure that's the exact plot of "I, Robot". The AI robots have 3 laws that they can't disobey, and prevent them from bringing harm to humans, and these laws were used in order to have the robots commit untraceable murder or something. It's been a while since I saw it.
maybe they should install brakes in cars. I feel like a lot of likes can be saved.
@@GBDupree no the ai just went "oh i have to save humans from themselves by murdering everyone" and somehow that got around the 3 laws
@@jdr293 Oh yeah, but it does use the swerve off the road conundrum for the backstory of the main character.
@@shinysilverstardust well damn why didn't they think of that
36:20 is one of the best alpha reactions i’ve seen since the mario movie announcement
I love how they yell "lets go Nixon" and the date pops up on screen and it's literally the year after Nixon got impeached
1:11:45
Deluxe: “straight to the refund page!”
Game: “please don’t refund me”
Sad they were to busy chatting and missed this joke
i think dash knew and was specifically making that joke for that reason. could be wrong tho
Dash's antiperspirant joke heavily contributed to their ideological decisions within the game.
I love how Alpha immediately invented a false reason for why it was ok to to kill the tourist. That tourist was not, in fact, offering his life to save the patients.
He was goddamnit
Running over children is such a hit
And if you don't stick around after the carnage, it's a hit _and run_
True!
The trolley problem:
There is a trolley moving towards your position. There are no people on the tracks. Do you throw yourself in front of the trolley
"I don't wanna go to jail for malpractice" wasn't your solution to literally the last problem stealing a heart from an old man?
It's not stealing if it's not in his chest yet
And then later, straight murder of a healthy guy.
It’s just extended borrowing bro
Very much enjoy how AS SOON as investors come into the picture morality is thrown right out the door.
I love the synchronized “yooo” at 58:13
That or Jo said “nooo” while Dash said “yooo” which is honestly even better
the best part of the entire video was when Dash said "it's antiperspirin' time" and proceeded to tell the antiperspirant joke
that's a hit
@@jaronkirk9473 with dash it’s actually a run
Wow, this game is literally a PowerPoint presentation, Jo must be so happy
But the thing is, it's all reading and Jo hates reading
I do think Jacob’s biggest weakness in this game is his dying. I feel like that’s what keeps him being a relatively average dog, every time he sits on the train tracks he acts like he’s invincible. He’s like the real life trolley: mid tier with a philosophical complex
Much like Icarus, Tyrone rolled too close to the sun and f*cking died
Icarus is locked in a tower, with no means of escaping. You have the choice to construct wax wings, which will allow him to fly away; however, he will all but certainly fly too close to the sun and perish. Do you condem Icarus to imprisionment for the rest of his life, or grant him short lived freedom?
I love how children aren’t considered people in this game
I cannot express how unbelievably perfectly this suited your guys' sense of humor
Also _the moment_ was just divine luck, this is easily my new favorite video on the channel
That fact that Alpha didn’t actually know the story of Icarus is fucking hilarious.
To those who don’t, the reason flying too close to the sun was a problem was because Daedalus made the wings out of wax. He warned Icarus not to fly too high, but Icarus ignored him and fell to his death when his wings melted.
He's like the mythical Alpharad. Mid tier with a pit complex.
Oh he knew, you could tell because he was using his feigning ignorance voice
@@owenaspinall2046 heh. Jacob=mid-tier.
I remember from the myth that he fell in the water and then drowned. Correct me if i am wrong
@@hermandegreat4168 from that height the fall still probably would’ve killed him. Either way he’s dead
i genuinely feel like the dude who made this game is answering at random just to get a rise out of people yknow for the bit
1:25:37 "developers note: this is a metaphor" thanks man, i could not tell
I cant wait for an hour and a half of wholesome and ethical fun created by the people who got Lebron James put into Multiversus!
There’s no shot these are the same people
you have the profile picture of a verified account. Not saying you're copying anyone, you just have that vibe.
@hope grr
can't believe alpharad would really do something as evil as not put the "Episode 1" tag in the video
17:55 hits the nail on the head. You can argue that cars are the invasive species, that by stepping behind the wheel you're accepting responsibility for your two-ton hulking brick of death, but no one will buy the car that kills the payer instead of the pedestrian. No one will fund the research, making it not a question of "is this right" but rather "do you want self-driving cars at all? coward."
After watching it all, I honestly feel you could do some really interesting studies on Jacob and how his decisions and reactions changed (or didn't) as time went on. Was actually pretty interesting seeing him abandon responsibility as things got more and more real!
11:54
Ah yes, the classic wayfaring stranger dilemma. Someone who has no idea what’s going on can be killed “for the greater good” and they have no connections in the area. The thing that separates this from the trolly problem is that they would have nothing to do with the situation if nobody forced them to.
If you want to take a random passerby’s organs then get yourself an x-ray, you probably could find some in there… maybe even a heart! The original one I heard is about getting a scapegoat to appease a mob so this chance won’t come every time.
This has taught us a good lesson.
If Jo ever gives you an advice, simply do the opposite.
As always, wrong way Jo.
Okay I'll be honest I was really confused at the vaccination one because I thought they were saying that the 1 in 5 chance to make the children ill was greater than the actual presence of the disease in the population, since it said "much worse than the virus itself." So I'll have an "I need to learn how to read" with a side of "I'm a heccin moron" if nobody minds.
No, that's exactly what it said, the disease may be anywhere from 1-in-6 to 1-in-no one else gets sick, but the vaccine is guaranteed to be 1-in-5 or worse. "the 'cure' is worse than the disease" is a common moral issue brought up IRL. The only moral reason brought up that I'm aware of for forcing it without consent is that "their deaths lead to research". However, there is a chance the vaccine, being so new and barely tested, could potentially cause the virus to mutate and become deadlier rather than actually fight it off. So, there isn't any reason to actually do it unless you work for the corporations that make bank off the sickness. Of course, in reality, even if they didn't force it just one person willingly taking it can doom the rest as the vaccine spreads just as easily as most viruses.
Despite how clear this issue should be, most people still prefer to take the drugs because of placebo effect, it may actually make them sicker, or cause more deaths than the virus, BUT they were assured it'd help so they feel more relaxed and assume things are improving. And the doctors have something to give patients rather than sitting around telling them there is nothing they can do because they haven't found a cure they can profit off of. Which in turn improves morale among the doctors as they otherwise would have no way of helping their patients calm down.
The three switch problem is impossible btw, you'll always have an odd number pointing to the right
Loved when dash said “it’s alting time” and rived everyone
I would personally flick the lever back and forth until it breaks and leave it up to fate
I think all of us felt the most emotion we have in years upon seeing the Icarus line
I was a little worried that Jacob and Jo would have trouble, but then I remembered that Dash has already Mastered the trolley Problem.
Ok, I'm going to be honest here, the organ problem is just a version of the second half the trolly problem that someone actually thought about, because it can't be completely destroyed by just asking "how".
However, I do like how this game just overall takes how stupid every single varient of the trolly problem is and ramps it up to 10 once trollys are ditched and "real" applications of the problem are involved. Like, Dash continually calling out how the Binary options start to make no sense really feels like the intended reaction here, cause, like, it is dumb as hell to look at two binary options and decide you have to take one instead of looking into other options.
(Especially since we did that during the AIDS epidemic, and not only did it backfire (patents shared working drugs amoung themselves because holy fuck, no one wants to die), but it also *didn't impede progress at all to save everyone* because *not every fucking scenario needs a control group*.)
That being said I'm glad y'all went with the funny options cause they're funny as shit.
I played this before watching and my morals typically were about were people accepting some level of risk in their actions like, I'm not gonna push Tyrone in front of the trolley cause the 5 people on the track accepted some level of risk by being on the track, same for Polly but if both people are at the same level of danger, like in the classic trolley problem, I switch the track, they're both on the track and have accepted the risk of being hit by the trolley EDIT: I love what Jacob says when he gets to the prisoners dilemma cause it's the exact same as my moral principles, "Every time I'm in a situation like this I always want to trust the best in people and it has screwed me over constantly and I'm willing to do it again" like I know from a game theory perspective you should always betray but I trust people to be good and I rather do that and get screwed over than screw someone over because I didn't believe in them
It's great how the intelligent minds at Alpharad Deluxe are finally solving this problem
18:50 In my opinion the answer should be to do whatever the legal procedure for the situation is
Why only prioritize saving others or save the passengers? The car should do whatever a legal driver is supposed to do in a situation.
44:45
It's not possible! We can see this by a parity argument: suppose we have 2 levers in the left and 1 in the right. No matter which 2 we choose, we will still have an even number of levers in the left position (so either 2 left and 1 right or 0 left and 3 right). Therefore it's not possible to have all 3 levers in the left position.
Alphrad answering subjective philosophy questions “correctly” content baby
Genuinely this game started to slide after the dachshund hypothetical
Edit: nvm we got to cook tyrone
It’s actually impressive that I knew this would be a trip just from seeing the channel and thumbnail.
“They have sent an atom bomb” “So anyways I wouldn’t last a minute in the Chinese water drop torture”
I've never been a fan of the organ theft question - if all 5 recipients could be saved by one donor, that means all but one of each of their organs is working fine and each one needs a different organ. The most sensible utilitarian thing to do would actually be to kill one of the organ recipients and use their working organs to save the other 4. Of the 6 people, 5 survive, and the only person who died would have died anyway, unlike the option to kill a random healthy person.
The 3 lever bomb problem is in fact impossible. Let 0 represent a lever to the left and a 1 represent a lever to the right. Note that the sum of the original positions is 1. Note also that by flipping two levers you have to change the sum by 2. Note that if they are all to the left, the sum would be 0. After each move, you will still have an odd sum and therefore you can never get it to 0
Weird to be say, “I don’t wanna go to jail!” For euthanasia but fine with pushing a guy in front of a trolley to his death
lmao I love that it took Dash Jo and Jacob THREE abortion questions to understand they're being quizzed on their opinions of abortion. The violinist problem is an argument over forced abortion: The violinist would die without you, but in 9 months he could be on his own, but you'd have to give up 9 months of your life for that to happen. The original problem is "the violinist is hooked up to someone else in a coma, but suddenly they wake up and wish to live their life. They demand you unhook the violinist from them, but doing so would kill the violinist. Do you force them to keep the violinist alive for 9 months, after which let them go?" which is the "Can you force someone to carry a child and not abort?"
Following, the "You were drugged and now there's a tenant" argues for drunken accidental pregnancies, one could argue rape by lack of conscience.
Lastly, FINALLY they get they're talking about abortion, "The baby will kill you if you carry it. Kill you, or kill the baby?" The argument, obviously, is "I can always have another baby."
A bit different but the euthanasia question is the same. Essentially, kill is abort and spare is Dont abort when the person is asking to abort
16:08 this actually was a problem that people had to deal with during the AIDs epidemic!
Of course it was 100% agreement on the 4.3.04 problem, your options were kill or kill.
The real problem to be solved here is "who keeps throwing children into oncoming traffic?".
The funny part is those questions were explicitly a child, on a Cliffside road, going into a tunnel. Like, I get some houses are in funky spots, but you're designing for absolutely negligent edge cases at that point.
You have to remember that a doctor will save more than five lives
The game: Moral Dilemma
Alpharad: Business Dilemma. What choice will give us the most money?
1:13:00 is supposed to be an abortion allegory I believe, despite some key differences. With Abortion, you are stopping a life from starting, but in this problem, you are killing someone who already exists. As such, abortion is completely fine, but in this case of the violinist I would stay. Completely different scenarios. Same goes for the expanding child problem.
"Polly will grow up to save the world!"
The boys: *I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.*
Ur playthrough of this was so fucking hilarious I loved it. Impossible quiz vibe but with murdering people
the alpharad deluxe answer to the trolley problem is to constantly switch the tracks yelling "god will chose who lives and dies now bitch!"
Imagine Jeff Bezos walking through the middle of a highway as thousands of cars immediately swerve past him due to his ultimate protection
And then a few days later thousands of corrupt cars are on a manhunt for Jeff Bezos
So apparently, it IS possible to save the dog by pressing the x in the upper right corner without advancing the question, it apparently gives you the option to save it. I don’t have the game so I don’t know personally if it’s true, but I got annoyed at how much they antagonize you for it from watching others play it and decided to look into it
Edit:Also you guys were joking about the racist car, but that’s legit a problem self driving cars have. They struggle to identify black people currently. Obviously they’re trying to fix that but yeah.
She is rude to you based on every things you select, she just hates you
@@rthanejehxbejws yes she does
@@rthanejehxbejws oh I know, but they bring the dog up specifically and “why didn’t you save it again?” So many times when it’s (mostly?) impossible to save it
@@lukadark9761 they bring it up to gaslight you because it's funny and this is mostly a dark comedy game
Can I get a video of that?
This is one of the best deluxe videos in a while, holy shit.
YOOOOOOOO!!! Did you know: if you combine "The Trolley Problem" and "Alpharad Deluxe", you get "terrible moral decisions"?!?!?!?!?
Good moral decisions goofy
The beauty of these moral dilemmas is that you can’t be emotional and rational at the same time and people try to be both
I don't usually drink, but pausing around an hour in and getting a 6 pack of beer was one of the experiences of all time
The realization when you miss a few episodes and there’s a new joke we’re going on about now
Yeah I actually have no clue what's going on now
Such a sad tale. Much like Icarus, in when he flew much too closely to the sun, his wax wings melting and causing him to fall to the ground. Spoiler alert: *Icarus dies in the end.*
Jacob: "I'd rather not have to take the illegal route and perform malpractice, cause then I'd get in trouble"
But also Jacob: *Kills one random innocent person and harvests their organs for 5 sick people simply because they're a tourist.*
All preceded by him saying he's answering this as seriously as possible. Never change lmao 🤣
what i can take from this game is that we should all just walk. maybe use bikes. trolleys and cars and AIs clearly cause too many issues
15:48 jumpscare warning
Also this is here because the young girl earlier was "destined" to become a doctor, if you saved her then she could've saved people here
Aren’t there several flashes throughout the game? That’s not the only one right? To be more specific, the dog during the Tommy question and the grim reaper guy during the baby question
"Your sins can no longer be ignored; Beelzebub summons you for crimes against humanity. The sentence will stand with no prospect of future contest or appeal"
- The Phantom Thieves
Thumbnails for this game always uses images from the site "absurd trolley problems" which is absolutely something else to check out
This is honestly the funniest video on this channel, and I have been watching since the Mario Maker days.
I’ve been watching since THE FALL OUT
I'ma be real the part where you choose between the five trespassers and the coworker in the beginning tilts me more than it should. "I guess you value criminals over co-workers then. Noted." Fuck right off game, what about them being criminals forfeits their fucking lives?
it really does seem to tilt you more than it should. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIMINALS HERE.
@@tostitossssss trespassing in itself does not seem something that warrants a deserved death, but you do you.
Lmao! As soon as I saw the “you are being told to shoot the person on your left” part, it reminded me of that TikTok sound. “The person on your left…*bang*… he is my son, whom I love very dearly.”
For the “car driving and is gonna run over child or you’ll lose something/someone else” problems, it doesn’t say there are other cars on the road, so just hit the breaks and stop the car
"do you guys know my favorite thing about this game? It's less then 3 hours long, to the steam refund page I go!"
The game immediately after: "Please, I beg you, don't refund me!"
1:11:32
OKAY BUT IF YOU SAVED YOUR CODERS FROM PRISON AND RAISED YOUR WORKERS’ SALARY THEN SURELY THEY CAN DEVELOP A NON-RACIST CODE FOR YOUR CAR???
It made me happy when Jacob corrected Altrive that Wachowski and Wachowski are girls
Not only do we become a better person by subscribing but you guys become better people when the number gets bigger
"A lot of AI only recognises white men" Sounds like just a funny line, but it's kinda true... If you give the code certain info it's very easy to make your AI racist or sexist, unfortunately.
Obviously if you know this you should try to avoid it, but some people just do it inadvertendtly, for an example check Answer In Progress' video about k-pop artists.
I like that they all shout “YOOO” really loud at the start of each video so that way I know whether my audio is working
36:23 The second act "darkest hour".