50% gem rate is average with ultra modern cards, the fact that you paid KK cards $1,000.00 to prep your cards and it did not help your average tells me it’s time to give someone else a shot. Love your vids 😊
Not going to lie, lot of low psa grades using a service. If you can see the print line, they def should've seen it. My Gem rate on my own is gen around 70%, mostly because I have PC cards mixed in that I just want a slab for. Spend the time reviewing the cards, get a membership to PSA, you will do just as well and save money.
I’m super pumped for this series. No premium stock as he says and not even 3 mins later, guess what we all saw lol cool story behind that card tho. Don’t care what anyone says. I still collect Zions
From some recent PSA reveals it seems PSA has gotten stiff with their grades. They were tossing out 10's to gain market share it seemed and it dropped their value so maybe making them rare again is a good thing for the value points.
6:28 in and see that Deni Avdija, I don't know what threshold you asked them to "kick back" cards, but that card was so offcentered, there was no way it would be a 10 ever, and even a 9 should have been questionable. The "point" of the center frame is practically touching the right edge of the card. Again, love your content, but KK should have caught that one.
I'm not going to lie here. I actually got a little sick seeing a card go from the " min size requirement" to a 10. Super happy for you as it probably deserved that grade to begin with. What sickens me is the obvious. We need consistency and transparency when it comes to grading. There is serious money invested for alot of people. No reason for the inconsistencies in PSA.
So do you make all that money off UA-cam vids and sport cards ? That’s wild lol I’m just now getting into cards even the hobby boxes are wild in prices
Hey keep your head up there are still bangers left. I would had hoped the company you send you cards to for submissions would have done a better job looking some of those lower grade 6's 7's and 8's and telling you to save your money and pass on grading them. But not to focus on the negative, I love these videos and missed them from you. I am sure you can make up some of the cost by doing the auction you mentioned at the beginning of the video. Keep up the awesome and rad content and stay classy my friend!
Sure seems like grading and paying a fee just to have someone look at it and still be wrong is an easy way to lose money. There's a reason why I rarely ever send anything in.
I love you man but in my world I could have bought all these cards for 10g… I understand the other boxes haven’t been revealed but I’ll keep the tally and give you a final grade Best of luck
RGL nice reveal. I think KKsports needs to look in the mirror and reassess what they are sending in, especially for you. IMO this reveal exposed them in a bad way. There’s no way that you should be getting back that many 6s and 8s after paying for their “review” service. I wonder if they looked them over at all. Or, maybe the better grades are all in the other remaining boxes?
The gem rate for this one was about 45%. My previous gem rates (when using their condition review service) have been 60 up to 80%. THere was also one I didn't have them review that came back..rough as well. I understand grading is subjective. I'm ok with 9's. There were a lot of 8's and lower in this sub. A few 8's (maybe 1-2 per 100) is fine, but yeah, after recording this series and seeing them in hand and not on paper, there were far too many 8's and below.
@@RunGoodLife agreed. My gem rate for my last order of 100 cards was about 50%, but that was mostly topps baseball paper which is tougher to grade than chrome stock in general. Grader to grader variability also plays a big part, and that can significantly change a large orders overall grades. One graders 10 is another graders 9, it is just subjective at the end of the day.
I paused it one minute in to make this comment......and a small prayer, that no matter what this reveal consists of.....there WILL BE NO 2019-20 Hoops Premium Stock. 😂
3:10. They sent it back to you because of ... "minimum size requirement"... um yeah you have to send them so many cards at a time (atm I think its 10) Not singles. So yeah now you got it graded..... because you sent it in with 500 cards. It has nothing to do with consistency on PSA's part.
@@RunGoodLife My bad. I guess I am use to the old term of 'trimmed'. As in a vintage card people did trim. I didn't realize that card manufacturers can put out random overcut cards.
Some of these card aren't even worth sending in. A second year holo my house lamelo? Why are you sending these 3 dollar cards to PSA, and seeing the grades that you're getting (tons of sub 9s), it seems like you're not even prepping them or checking if they're worth sending in. Some of these seem like you're throwing money down a drain. Also, I recommend everyone to prep cards themselves instead of doing a third party service. You'll save money AND you'll get better grades. Third party services do so many that their quality is absolute trash sometimes. Just had a 110 card submission with a 50% gem rate, 47% 9s, and 3% 8s! All 8s were expected given they were thicker, and 9s were all 50/50 to gem in my opinion. I'm usually hitting a 98% 9 or above rate on all thin cards. Also hitting a 93% gem rate on modern Pokemon cards in the last 200 Pokemon cards graded. Highly recommend Kurt's card care for prep
What if you already work 80+ hours a week and try to be a good husband and a family man? I just shouldn’t submit cards then because I can’t find 8-10 hrs to prep 500 cards for sub? Again, I say it many times in the series. Card aesthetic is more important to me than card value. Some of the biggest cards in the hobby are incredibly ugly and some of the best looking cards are $1. Most $3 raw cards are $40-60 in psa 10. $23 risk to make 2-2.5x sounds good to me. Worst case scenario is you lose a couple bucks on a 9, or $10 on an $8 (psa 8’s or $2-3 cards will still sell for $10 on comc all day long)
@@RunGoodLife Like you said if you're working 80 hours a week and then you know that time is money. Spending the small amount of time to prep each card (literally take seconds per card) if you just want to check centering, scratches, etc which could easily save you the PSA 8s and under that you been getting. Let alone saving the cost of the third party service. With a 500 card submission (7.5k submission price), you would save over hundreds and possibly over 1k just by checking. Most 3 raw cards are not 40-60 dollars, and even if they are because of ONE comp good luck finding a buyer on them. Three dollar raw cards that gem'ed have super low liquidity which means you'll spend a ton of time trying to find a buyer which wastes even more time. And what happens if those 3 dollar cards don't gem? Who buys PSA 9 slabs of 3 dollar raw cards. On COMC? Sure, but like you said this costs money to send it to them and TIME that you're wasting to just to win back those few dollars per PSA 8/9 cheap slabs. I'm just saying I understand the aesthetics here, but a holo my house second year cannot be that aesthetically pleasing to send it in nor are you keeping that for your PC. I'm trying to make a point that I understand if all of those cards are aesthetically pleasing, but some of those cards should just not have been sent in period and with the grades you've been getting on some of them, it's literally wasting money. People should understand that you send should cards in for 2 reasons: 1) for the pc and you want protection / like aesthetics and 2) for high EV of return if you're looking to sell in the future. If the card does NOT belong in it, don't send it in else you'll be wasting time and money.
@@justinyang3655 that particular card was put into my “to grade” box sometime a year ago when it was probably $5-10 raw on comc. I took that whole box, braced it safely for shipping, text the owner of KK and told him to do his thing. That’s how little prep went into this. Otherwise it was going to either sit here, all be sold raw on comc, or sold to GoingTwice which are local to me for 75% comps.
@@RunGoodLife First off, highly appreciate your responses and the time taken to write them in this thread! Thank you! I guess the issue here is does the owner of KK send cards in that they think will gem at least 50% of the time? A third party service should not be getting this many 8s or lowers (these are clearly defects seen by the eye especially for thin cards like these). If they take the time to look into each card to see if its worth spending the 20 dollar fee on, then it makes sense as long as the third party fee is small enough to warrant the potential profit.
@@justinyang3655 in full disclosure, when they got the box the owner text me back and said he would personally evaluate all the cards. In hindsight, I probably should have told him to let the guys he’s paying to do that everyday evaluate them. Also, not sure if they look for centering and print lines, or just edges and surface. probably would have been a good thing to know
This just shows you how much of joke psa grading is. How can one submission they send a card back saying it has been trimmed or size issues and the next time same card is submitted it gets a 10?? What a joke. And if you paid someone $2 a card to condition check these cards you shouldn’t have nothing less than a 9
The fact KK made you pay $2 per card just for them to be blind.
Thanks for the reveal Run Good! KK has to catch that Lebron print line if you are paying for the service imo.
9s & 10a are acceptable. I’d ask for $2 for each 8 & below.
50% gem rate is average with ultra modern cards, the fact that you paid KK cards $1,000.00 to prep your cards and it did not help your average tells me it’s time to give someone else a shot. Love your vids 😊
Better off just doing it yourself. I never go through a middle man I think it’s pointless, waste of money and time
Gross
Not going to lie, lot of low psa grades using a service. If you can see the print line, they def should've seen it. My Gem rate on my own is gen around 70%, mostly because I have PC cards mixed in that I just want a slab for. Spend the time reviewing the cards, get a membership to PSA, you will do just as well and save money.
I’m super pumped for this series. No premium stock as he says and not even 3 mins later, guess what we all saw lol cool story behind that card tho. Don’t care what anyone says. I still collect Zions
Wow, I like the KK guys but dang! I do better on my own with my Gem Mint and Mint rate than that.
Thx for the info man. I've been trying to figure out how to get some cards graded. I'm going to check out the grading service.
Has 2020 really been that long ago!!! Dang I'm old. Great video as always rgl can't wait for the next 4 parts.
Absolutely love PSA reveals 🔥
From some recent PSA reveals it seems PSA has gotten stiff with their grades. They were tossing out 10's to gain market share it seemed and it dropped their value so maybe making them rare again is a good thing for the value points.
Thanks for sharing. Still waiting in sending in some card for grading. Hopefully they come back in good grades.
Dont Push KK much more bro your gem rate is not to hot
Brand new to the hobby and been enjoying your vids for a few weeks. Nice to see the kind of cards you sent off for grading.
Sgc is the way
nice variety of stuff.
Great video. I enjoy seeing the reveals. Some of those were rough though. Good luck and can't wait for the others!
KK get absolutely shredded in these comments
Love PSA reveals. When your favorite breaker drops a PSA reveal? The best reveal video.
I love PSA reveals!!!!
How long did it take to get all these cards back?
What do you want for the Colin Gillespie?
Well I see why my order is taking so long!! J/k love the content!! Keep up the great work my friend!
6:28 in and see that Deni Avdija, I don't know what threshold you asked them to "kick back" cards, but that card was so offcentered, there was no way it would be a 10 ever, and even a 9 should have been questionable. The "point" of the center frame is practically touching the right edge of the card. Again, love your content, but KK should have caught that one.
Congrats on that Kobe grade!
I'm not going to lie here. I actually got a little sick seeing a card go from the " min size requirement" to a 10. Super happy for you as it probably deserved that grade to begin with. What sickens me is the obvious. We need consistency and transparency when it comes to grading. There is serious money invested for alot of people. No reason for the inconsistencies in PSA.
Nice cards. Thanks run!
Ooooooo this will be a fun series!
I haven’t even gotten a minute into the video and I know there’s going to be just an absurd amount of nervous laughter
Congrades nice cards. Love the psa videos. I will take that last Lebron psa 8 off your hands. Love that card. 🔥💯
What do you did with the 6’s? Crack and BSG ?
No plans yet. Still working with KK
How many cards did your screening company catch and tell you not to submit?
@3:14 PSA lawyer gunna come after u
any reason why you didn't grade the autos?
Not a fan of auto grade, don't think it adds much to theslab.
Came here from watching the Part 5 video first 😂. RGL said go to Part 1. Sir yes sir
How do you decide which cards you should send in to get graded?
nice reveal, i love watching reveals ill definitely catch the rest.
I like ur style on what cards u send to get graded
Was really looking forward to 489 hoop premium stock PSA reveal 😂
Bro that Kobe downtown !!!! Omg I want that
Absolutely love the vids. The PSA reveals are awesome. Even if ya are a Seahawks fan.
Damn how long did this take to get back
4 months
So do you make all that money off UA-cam vids and sport cards ? That’s wild lol I’m just now getting into cards even the hobby boxes are wild in prices
That Kurt Warner red shimmer is nasty
As a Timberwolves fan, love the ANT Man cards!
HERE WE GO
Hey keep your head up there are still bangers left. I would had hoped the company you send you cards to for submissions would have done a better job looking some of those lower grade 6's 7's and 8's and telling you to save your money and pass on grading them. But not to focus on the negative, I love these videos and missed them from you. I am sure you can make up some of the cost by doing the auction you mentioned at the beginning of the video. Keep up the awesome and rad content and stay classy my friend!
Sure seems like grading and paying a fee just to have someone look at it and still be wrong is an easy way to lose money. There's a reason why I rarely ever send anything in.
Prep service means they will clean the card if possible…not “kick the card back” …that would be called pre-screening
Kk screwed me hard on a break with damaged cards and never resolved it F kk sports
I love you man but in my world I could have bought all these cards for 10g… I understand the other boxes haven’t been revealed but I’ll keep the tally and give you a final grade Best of luck
Nice man
Really should have put estimated prices or talk about prices in general.
Oh man RGL the Mahomes and Kelce in the big hits pile my PC players made my mouth water.
Was this all ONE BIG sub? Or did you break it up so you could have different graders take a whack as chunks of it? 😊
One giant 500 card sub
Part 1 was 41% gem rate. Ouch
Grader had a herpes breakout. Tough grades. Awesome cards though. Great to see you stack nice stuff.
Gillespie didn’t get cut lol
RGL nice reveal. I think KKsports needs to look in the mirror and reassess what they are sending in, especially for you. IMO this reveal exposed them in a bad way. There’s no way that you should be getting back that many 6s and 8s after paying for their “review” service. I wonder if they looked them over at all. Or, maybe the better grades are all in the other remaining boxes?
The gem rate for this one was about 45%. My previous gem rates (when using their condition review service) have been 60 up to 80%. THere was also one I didn't have them review that came back..rough as well.
I understand grading is subjective. I'm ok with 9's. There were a lot of 8's and lower in this sub. A few 8's (maybe 1-2 per 100) is fine, but yeah, after recording this series and seeing them in hand and not on paper, there were far too many 8's and below.
@@RunGoodLife agreed. My gem rate for my last order of 100 cards was about 50%, but that was mostly topps baseball paper which is tougher to grade than chrome stock in general. Grader to grader variability also plays a big part, and that can significantly change a large orders overall grades. One graders 10 is another graders 9, it is just subjective at the end of the day.
Prep fees? Card to sleeve, then to top loader...no prep fees needed! You won't get it any better than that.
Where is the cowboy? the HAT..
The title is misleading it's actually 489 cards :(
I can’t believe that Paolo blue disco got a 10. It’s so off-centered
Jesus that's a lot of money
I paused it one minute in to make this comment......and a small prayer, that no matter what this reveal consists of.....there WILL BE NO 2019-20 Hoops Premium Stock. 😂
It’s still amazing to me people in hobby still don’t understand what Mini size even means. 🤦♂️
I thought I was the only one getting 8's
I’ll buy all your eagles cards lol
"Prep fees" 💀💀💀
489 just make it 500 it hurts my head
You should never get 6s 7s or 8s when paying for a grading service imo WOW 👎🏻
If you're paying him $2 a card to inspect them why did that LeBron go that's crazy
get your eyes checked. lotta cards were noticeably off-centered and a few had white on corners
KK sports cards DID NOT review your cards lol. Get that $1,000 back!
I can’t stand minimum wage graders not knowing how to grade the corners of premium parallels.. they see cracked ice and think it’s a flaw…
Brother you got cooked Im sorry
Dude I’d be pissed at KK. They literally did nothing at all
Neeeeerd
I have no skin in the game. But those dudes you paid to prescreen your cards failed you
Getting killed in the psa ratings
3:10. They sent it back to you because of ... "minimum size requirement"... um yeah you have to send them so many cards at a time (atm I think its 10) Not singles. So yeah now you got it graded..... because you sent it in with 500 cards. It has nothing to do with consistency on PSA's part.
Lol. That’s not what it means.
@@thomasjones2944 oh? Then what? Were they trying to tell him his card was too small?
Min size requirement is the grade they assign when they think a card is trimmed. Has nothing to do with size of order lmao
@@RunGoodLife My bad. I guess I am use to the old term of 'trimmed'. As in a vintage card people did trim. I didn't realize that card manufacturers can put out random overcut cards.
@@ajjameson154 you sure seemed pretty confident 40 minutes ago thou. Internet is undefeated.
Give me some money!!!!
I wouldn’t rep the KK company they obviously ain’t very good
You need to find a new prepper. Geez.
So many of those low grades I would be interested in haha.
Ouch you paid someone to look at those? Better find someone else
Please please please crack and resubmit all the questionable grades.. please.. you will get 100k views on that video!!
Some of these card aren't even worth sending in. A second year holo my house lamelo? Why are you sending these 3 dollar cards to PSA, and seeing the grades that you're getting (tons of sub 9s), it seems like you're not even prepping them or checking if they're worth sending in. Some of these seem like you're throwing money down a drain.
Also, I recommend everyone to prep cards themselves instead of doing a third party service. You'll save money AND you'll get better grades. Third party services do so many that their quality is absolute trash sometimes.
Just had a 110 card submission with a 50% gem rate, 47% 9s, and 3% 8s! All 8s were expected given they were thicker, and 9s were all 50/50 to gem in my opinion. I'm usually hitting a 98% 9 or above rate on all thin cards. Also hitting a 93% gem rate on modern Pokemon cards in the last 200 Pokemon cards graded.
Highly recommend Kurt's card care for prep
What if you already work 80+ hours a week and try to be a good husband and a family man? I just shouldn’t submit cards then because I can’t find 8-10 hrs to prep 500 cards for sub?
Again, I say it many times in the series. Card aesthetic is more important to me than card value. Some of the biggest cards in the hobby are incredibly ugly and some of the best looking cards are $1.
Most $3 raw cards are $40-60 in psa 10. $23 risk to make 2-2.5x sounds good to me. Worst case scenario is you lose a couple bucks on a 9, or $10 on an $8 (psa 8’s or $2-3 cards will still sell for $10 on comc all day long)
@@RunGoodLife Like you said if you're working 80 hours a week and then you know that time is money. Spending the small amount of time to prep each card (literally take seconds per card) if you just want to check centering, scratches, etc which could easily save you the PSA 8s and under that you been getting. Let alone saving the cost of the third party service. With a 500 card submission (7.5k submission price), you would save over hundreds and possibly over 1k just by checking.
Most 3 raw cards are not 40-60 dollars, and even if they are because of ONE comp good luck finding a buyer on them. Three dollar raw cards that gem'ed have super low liquidity which means you'll spend a ton of time trying to find a buyer which wastes even more time. And what happens if those 3 dollar cards don't gem? Who buys PSA 9 slabs of 3 dollar raw cards. On COMC? Sure, but like you said this costs money to send it to them and TIME that you're wasting to just to win back those few dollars per PSA 8/9 cheap slabs. I'm just saying I understand the aesthetics here, but a holo my house second year cannot be that aesthetically pleasing to send it in nor are you keeping that for your PC.
I'm trying to make a point that I understand if all of those cards are aesthetically pleasing, but some of those cards should just not have been sent in period and with the grades you've been getting on some of them, it's literally wasting money. People should understand that you send should cards in for 2 reasons: 1) for the pc and you want protection / like aesthetics and 2) for high EV of return if you're looking to sell in the future. If the card does NOT belong in it, don't send it in else you'll be wasting time and money.
@@justinyang3655 that particular card was put into my “to grade” box sometime a year ago when it was probably $5-10 raw on comc.
I took that whole box, braced it safely for shipping, text the owner of KK and told him to do his thing. That’s how little prep went into this. Otherwise it was going to either sit here, all be sold raw on comc, or sold to GoingTwice which are local to me for 75% comps.
@@RunGoodLife First off, highly appreciate your responses and the time taken to write them in this thread! Thank you!
I guess the issue here is does the owner of KK send cards in that they think will gem at least 50% of the time? A third party service should not be getting this many 8s or lowers (these are clearly defects seen by the eye especially for thin cards like these). If they take the time to look into each card to see if its worth spending the 20 dollar fee on, then it makes sense as long as the third party fee is small enough to warrant the potential profit.
@@justinyang3655 in full disclosure, when they got the box the owner text me back and said he would personally evaluate all the cards. In hindsight, I probably should have told him to let the guys he’s paying to do that everyday evaluate them.
Also, not sure if they look for centering and print lines, or just edges and surface. probably would have been a good thing to know
This is a POOR reflection of KK if you paid them to review the cards before being sent off for grading. Getting 8's and below is unacceptable.
You keep saying "visually appealing "
Bro we all like cards that look good I don't know why you keep sayin it like that.
Because a large majority of the hobby transact in ugly cards and only care about the grade on the slab regardless of what the card looks like.
This just shows you how much of joke psa grading is. How can one submission they send a card back saying it has been trimmed or size issues and the next time same card is submitted it gets a 10?? What a joke. And if you paid someone $2 a card to condition check these cards you shouldn’t have nothing less than a 9
Stop putting tape on the cards its so annoying for you who submit to PSA. Bubble wrap that shit instead.
rgl. the goat
Holy shit.