The Holy Grail of Cassette Recorders | Tascam 688
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2021
- I got my hands on the Tascam Midistudio 688, the godfather of the Portastudio 424 mk 2, 414 and all cassette recorders! What can you use this vintage cassette 4 track for? The battle of the Portastudio vs daw has begun!
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When I hear the tops and snares from the releases that came off the 688 that my crew put out at the start of the 90's there is a distinct crisp sound that I still love to this day.
Don't be afraid to drive the signals to tape hard past 0, into the +3/+6 on the meters. Try to get some type II cassettes; I always used Maxell XLII in my 488. Good times!
Thankfully all this stuff is still made enmasse today. Believe this or not but governments went back to using Cassette tapes for Data storage because of the shelf life being much longer than cd's. Crazy eh
I grabbed some cheap Sony's for practice and to make sure it was functional, but I've heard good things about the Maxell's. Thanks for the tips bro!
Awesome! Just got a portastudio 424 mk3, can't wait to see your workflow videos with mpc + cassette mixer
great find Sight, congrats - those are great recorders , I've got almost the same model Tascam Midi Studio 644 basically same but without the bridge. learning curve with the digital display is quite steep , but its very versatile unit! one you get to grips with it its a lot of fun! Peace & Jazz
great conditon. can t wait for more videos
I got a 688 when it was new in October 1990. I still have my 688. It’s in great shape, for being 30 years old. It’s currently in the shop getting serviced. I have a lot of other analog and digital recorders, but the 688 will always be my favorite. I haven’t used it in 15 years, so I am looking forward to working with it again. When I got it, I felt like George Martin at Abbey Road! It is such a great recorder. Your video is great, make another one about the 688 if you can!
Would there be a massive sound difference in the 688 over something like the 414 mk2 ?
@@saren6538 The sound quality of the 688 is among the greatest Tascam has ever achieved. The difference between it and a 414 mkII is significant. The 414 mkII is a great machine, but the 688 is in a class by itself.
Hell yeah bro! Got my porta studio back off the shelf last year. It worked for about a month- than quit. Idk something up with the power supply port. I’m itching to get it going again! Can’t wait to see what you do with that beast
Aww man! Hope you get it back up soon. This one is having a small issue with the tape head tension, but I'm gonna get it to the shop this week so I can make some more content with it in action. Thanks for watching!
Maaaaan.. I almost woke up my wife giggling at the Ron Burgundy clip lol!! Very VERY Dope pickup my brother and glad to see you back! That GAS is really real, and I'm actually struggling now because it's something I'm considering buying, but I'm fighting it and trying to block it out by making a beat tape, but it's be callin me like Pooky from New Jack lol! Love your stuff my friend, keep shining!!!🙏🏾✊🏾🔥🔥🔥
😂😂😂😂 Yo, one of the greatest movies ever lol. It's sad how many quotes I know from it. Yo, I know the feeling. I honestly ea lot of this vintage stuff is way overpriced right now and it'll come down eventually. I refuse to pay top dollar for these dinosaurs, especially when companies like SSL keep making more and more affordable options. If you catch a mean deal though, go for it!
The cool thing about the 688 is that it has a powerful midi capability, you can literally sync your 688 to your mpc via midi/external sync smpte source (sync switch Allowing you to have free tracks on your 688. You can seriously go in detail with recording via midi. And another great feature, you can automate recording feature with song scene, with that same sync switch and big display. 688 is a serious midistudio recorder. Oh and it has a great sound
We as a 5 piece metal band bought one new in 1994 with an advance from a Japanese record company after our 1st studio album. It was stupidly expensive compared with what you can buy now but with the addition of a stereo Tascam reel to reel to make bounce downs of multitracks to send back to the 8 track we somehow managed to get 8 tracks of drums, 6 tracks of rhythm guitars, 6 tracks of solo's, the bass track, stereo keys, doubled lead vox, doubled 4 part vocal harmonies and multiple effect tracks. Crazy by todays standards but had more energy and feel than the crap that the pro studio gave us... Thanks for the memories
Nice find! whoever pawned that must’ve took really good care of it. I’ve been looking all over the house the past few weeks myself for an old dictaphone I used to have that had different playback speeds to noodle around with myself but I still ain’t found it. I think about everyone from the 90’s remembers those smaller four track cassette recorders but I ain’t ever seen nothing like that!? Looking forward to the follow up videos and loop packs!
Nice video - very articulate and great style ---- will be interested to see how this works out.
Grats. Nice piece!
That Tascam is a beast, damn. You got that for a steal homie. Have fun with it 🤘
Brother I wanna thank you for this video and review. I bought both an MPC One and a Tascam Model 12 a few years because i was wanna to get back into making DAWless soul music like i used to do 30+ years was originally looking to cop a Tascam 488 mkII. My mentor and longtime musical collaborator who I used to do my thing when i was a teen used the 488 as his main tracker for all his live bass guitar drums and we jumped in a time machine over the phone recently by revisting all his funk recordings from over 30 years and the warmth and sound is still unmatched. He recently revealed to me just how much of the holy grail the 688 is and I'm thinking about copping one for him as a gift. I'm so glad i came across your video because now i think I'm gonna fork out some cash to hook my brother up so we can start cooking up some classic lo-fi soul funk. I'm a serious Prince PFunk head who came up in the golden age of hip-hop and I'm 52, so I'm still going for a sound that evokes the vibes of that era of music i was influenced by. This video of yours is a sign that I'm on the right track and for me to take some risks and make that investment in the 688. The cool thing about the 688 is that you can record all 8 tracks simultaneously unlike the other models like the 488 which only let's you record 4 tracks simultaneously at a time and you can port all 8 tracks out simultaneously as well with no real complications....preferably into Logic or whatever DAW or systems. Hearing that warmth from my homies earlier recordings is a sound that would work WELL in 2024 as far as having some sh-t that'll set you apart from the rest. I'm definitely gonna check out your review on the Tadcam Model 12 - which I'm still in the early stages of getting to know. I wanna see what kind of sonic magic i can conjure up with both the Tascam Model 12 and thy MPC One working with one another exclusively. Thank you again for this video 🙏🏾
Bro that thing is a beast!!! So dope
Dope...!! Also I had an analog tape tascam, I never knew the science behind the using both sides of the tape for the 4 tracks... that’s good info.. thx. Then I got a digital 8 track tascam (which I still have just need to buy a new harddrive for it
I've gotten 45% of my gear from pawn shops! I actually pawn shop hunt on weekends. got an Akai MPC X for 7 bills!!!! yes it had a cracked LCD but it was just the top layer and only in the upper most right corner. Still jammin' on it! Started out with the tascam 244! remember that one LOL!!! you got a real good deal for sho!
Yeah bro, I've been slacking! I should've been going before this, but not bad for my first pick up. That MPCX deal though! 🤯🤯🤯
I regret giving mine away. I traded it for a practice drumkit. I'd already upgraded to a zoom digital 8 track, much smaller, more effects etc, but there's just something about recording on the 688. Hope you enjoy it!
This is dope! Your channel the truth!
Great Find!
its all about the rhythm.
A perfect base for creativity and songwriting. great for playing in a band as well as playing home alone .
Come to Brazil!
Thanks for the content.
My buddy just gave me one of these yesterday. Needed to get rid of some gear. Would love to see a vid of some jams you come up with using this
Just picked one of these up in great shape... Guy didn't know what he had, priced it $200 because he didn't know how to test everything. I told him I'd give him $100 as is, no hard feelings if it doesn't work out. Yup yup 😁 he went for it and as soon as I got it home it was awesome to discover everything worked as it should.
I love gear, but definitely love working with what I have. There is a happy medium.... Buy gear, sell what doesn't hasn't been used in your writing process for 6 months or more. Happy medium.
That's a great deal! I have to source a couple small parts to get mine working and I have procrastinated on it for a whole year lol. I agree, that happy medium is a great system. Find good deals, she'd what you don't use and avoid hoarding and keeping things that don't serve you.
That’s dope man I love going to the pawn shop some times you really find jewels in there
I gotta start going for other things... that go POW! 😂
Exactly! Over half the stuff In my setup I got from the pawn shop or second hand. It’s hit and miss but when you find those Gems it really pays off!
Nice! I still have my original 688. I just need the tape head serviced at Tascam.
My uncle’s studio had this 8 track but he ran / synced it to a TSR 8 Tascam 8 track reel to reel. Shit was knocking bro 🔥
My dream cassette multitrack . Still happy with my Tascam 488
We should do a shoot out - My 388 vs your 688! Sounds killer great video!
I’m down! Just gotta get a couple things tweaked
@@labandlegacy Same here! Mine is functional but it could use a little love. I got a couple other cassette machines we could throw in the mix :)
Did this happen ? 688 v 388
I love the fact that you did exactly what I did when I first got it
Plug inputs into the insert cable ports 😂
😂😂😂😂 Yeah, that was an adventure 😩
The 688 is a BMF no doubt. But the Grandad of them all is the TASCAM 388. This is the R2R and mixer COMBINED. If you find one for less than $2K snag it. :0) Detroit
Great video !
What’s the name of the colorful cables you had to plug in from your MP to your Tascam ?
Thanks for watching! The snake cables I purchased were here from Amazon. I got the 20 foot option because 3 was too short. amzn.to/3fGJYb3
great video, just subbed to your channel. yea these are the holy grail. u got a great deal! i just found one for $640 and even THAT'S a great deal. congrats!
Welcome to the channel!
Hey! I’m looking into buying one of these, but I’m curious what the sound quality is like compared to the Tascam 4 tracks like the Portastudio 424. I’m assuming there’s some loss of fidelity going from 4 tracks to 8 tracks, like loss of lows and highs. Have you done any comparisons, and would you recommend buying one of these if someone is interested in playing stuff like tape loops or looking for that stereotypical “warmth”? How is the tape speed control for playback? Is there a speed wheel and low/high playback speed? That would basically be mandatory for me for what I’m looking to do. Thanks!
just got the mpc one about a month ago and got a tascam dp24 awhile back. still have yet to unlock the potential of either. ive been having a problem with a good chunk of my splice samples not playing at all in mpc one, reinstalled and still nothing.
I used to have one of these back in the mid 90’s. Supra-dupa deal for $200.
Bought mine for 400 quid in 98 from an ad in Loot. It's a bit temperamental but it still works and sounds amazing. Sadly the mix page doesn't work anymore. Started on a 424, went to 688, then fostex d-108, then pentium 4 pc with 2 delta 1010's that I started my studio with in 2004 and I'm still doing that now. Rad
If you can learn The intricacies of this machine, it won’t disappoint you! Just make sure you use type II bias tapes…that’s what these tape heads were setup to use. Then you won’t have to rely on the dbx noise reduction removing your highs
Awesome advice man, thank you! I’m gonna take my time with it and really take advantage of its unique character. This was a long-term investment, even though I got it cheap lol
Yeah it’s an awesome piece of gear. I’m pushing an mpc 3000 through it using the individual outs for eq and fx purposes. And I have to say the eq’s are pretty good for the age of this piece and the amount of tracks tascam was able to fit on a cassette tape blows my mind
Ever tried recording into the Model 12 with this ? Also how does the sound compare to the Model 12?
Xmas gift tascam porta one in jr high....grad from Full Sail in 1991.... and to this day still have a mint in box studio n use my original!!! Greatest learnimg tool n reason for my recording engineer career all these years👍
Dope!
Thanks bro! I forgot how all these vintage pieces have their own quirks and personalities lol. This routing matrix for the tape deck is gonna be a whole new challenge 🤣🤣🤣
Mind if I ask your strategy for dealing with the -10 dBV inputs/outputs on your 688?
got one from a podunk music store for 150 bucks ....a little bit of a learning curve but once you get the hang of it this is really a monster and does a great job doing what no other portastudio does .....giving you 8 simultaneous channels for recording ......unheard of back then ....and now actually . it's good machine.....ruggedly built almost glad i picked one up on an impulse ......a relatively rare piece of kit in this modern age
Yo this Dave Scott AKA SpaceGhost that was awesome sauce.
Nice!!!
Guys you can do it with video tapes as well...really dope lo-fi with hiss...reel to reel is another level and costs a lot
dang. u got over sooo cool
I run all samples and instruments thru a soundcraft mixer to get some vibe... recommended.
I'm still on the lookout for the Tascam 688.
I own the 488, but you can only record 4 tracks at one.
What method of synchronization are you employing?
There will be none. Basically everything will be coming from the MPC straight using song mode. He will have to arrange his track first then record to tape. Route the Tascam back to his audio interface to dump everything in his DAW. Unless that Tape machine has midi on it for MTC he will be doing it the good old manual way. 1990’s are back baby. 🤦🏾😂
I've got GAS af. But no dinero :D Got a budget audio interface,a good reviewed headset,a MPK and a JBL Go speaker and here I am, saving up for the MPC :D
Ay, 4 years ago all I had was a refurbished MPC Touch from Amazon Warehouse lol. Keep grinding bro, it's on the way!
@@labandlegacy thanks! And keep up with the good content!
Can you do a video with how you use the MPC with the tascam 688 I would love to see that. I also just pick one (Tascam 688)
I haven't been able to get the 688 repaired. The tape head won't stay engaged but other than that everything works.
@@labandlegacydid you replace the belt?
I had one of these. It was my third Portastudio. Definitely one of the best sounding ones. It's cool for some things. I wouldn't record a whole song on it. Just layer some backing percussion and sound effects. These are lo-fi in a good but bad way IMO. Can be a pain to fix and maintain.
Amen !😊
Nice … but where are the demos of you using it ?
Bro, i just came back from Central Florida. The pawn shop up there had an OG MPC X advertised on Facebook Marketplace for only $800. So seeing that price, i did what every black person in America woud've done, i offered them $650 -- whole time i was straight laughing inside -- but they accepted the offere and said come get it. So this morning i drove 2.5 hours to grab it, but when i got there it powered up but kept shutting off; i was heartbroken. So owning several MPC and knowing my way around the inside of them, i took a chance and offered them $350 for the nonfucntional MPC X, knowing i could fix it, or flip it and selling back for the $350 i offered them, and they accepted it. Drove home and put that bad boy in update mode, and reinstalled the latest OS and Firmware, and Voila; just like that i scored a perfect condition OG MPX for only $350. Just was watching this video and laughing, hearing you tell your story. Dope find, keep up the channel fam
😆😆😆 Great find bro! Congratulations! I found an X last year for a great deal, had some ashes on it and I told them I had to get it professionally cleaned 😆. When I dusted it off it was practically brand new. Nowhere near as good a deal as you but I wasn't mad at all
dope
I use to have one of those
I owed one of those back in the day. God bless you all and Jesus Loves You
my granmother died..i bought 2x 488 midi studio"S id had a 4 track since 88 but these were the boys,,still got 1 today..ok was sad my gran died and i bought toys with her money,,but that was half the cash..the other half i got a mortgage ,,and now i own a house and a 488 ...but the real magic was having hands that didant open as a kid and opening them playing guitar and music ;-) stu
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Thanks for asking bro! They’re on my website www.iamsight.com also in the description box.
@@labandlegacy dope loving it been watching your totorials for a while now I seen one of your home boys rocking one in the V1 mpc battles in Russia and wanted one ever since g much love n respect from Adelaide South Australia
Smart way to use tapes. Realizing that after, yeah, 30 years 😆
oi como fazer pra compra uma mesa de áudio tascam midistudio 699
You got a steal
Did you get the manual? The MIDI based routing system can be quite a challenge without it.
I was able to download it. I also watched a few videos that helped me route the audio to the appropriate tracks 🙌
Early bird gets the worm homie. Hahaha
I am still buying some tapes from Bandcamp artists. I like the fact that I have to listen to them without being able to jump around.
That's dope! I didn't realize guys were releasing those 💯💯💯
Yes of course there are plenty of Underground artist in Europe mostly boom bap headz releasing limited edition 300 cookies of wax and cassettes...all sold out in pre-order
@@labandlegacy Yes, check Italo Brutalo for example. He is usi ng an MPC 3000 also.
I have the Tascam 424 Portastudio MKII. Brought it off an Asian Bride like 10 summers ago. I think I might hook my MPC X to it see what kind of sound I can get.
I’ve got one stored in my mums house under a bed, was in my dads loft for years and got covered in nasty loft dust, faders were gritty as hell when I got it down, probably unsalvageable which is regrettable.
Oh shhhi..🤯
You will be able to sync the midi with the MPC. What a bargain
I have a 688 but it stops mid recording
Lovely creamy analogue sound
Yessir! Hopped outta bed this morning just to get to it 😈
@@labandlegacy lol I'm the same with new gear
When you gave God the credit, that's where I hit "like".
I appreciate that bro. That's old wisdom from one of my elders 🙏💯💯💯
Me too hahaha!
MSX Audio are the O.G's of tape ..
Those guys are 🔥🔥🔥
Sight Back to Business!!
I’m trying bro, I felt so rusty in the editing room though 🤣 Thanks for stopping thru! 🤜💥🤛
So I just received one of these that was unfortunately not packed well. Most of the functions seem to work as advertised except for a major one- I can't seem to get the thing to record anything to tape? The meters are working, I get sound in the head phones, monitors, etc. The tape runs, FF, rewinds, all of those functions, etc. However, when I go to play back what I supposedly recorded nothing? I followed the manual, pages 18-19, word for word and still nothing? I even tested my new cassette tapes just to make sure those weren't bad, but that wasn't it? I'm at a loss and may need to return the item? But I thought that I would try these 688 comment sections first, just in case I was totally missing/not trying something, etc. Anyone on here who may have some words of wisdom, know these units well, and might know what is going on, I would sure appreciate it- Thanks.
There on Ebay for about $400
Man, why you didn't show it in action?
I had already filmed it when the tapes came in, and I am figuring out the recording matrix 😂 I'll have a before/after sound comparison shortly
@@labandlegacy thanks for answer. I imagine you playing your beats live through The mixer.
I been hella slacking sight
Gear lust
Damn Bro I just saw one of these on reverb for $2,100 lol I had to do a double take
🏆🏆🏆🔥
My local shop sold me one of these for 25 bucks because the power supply was missing and very hard to get. Granted I spend a lot of money there, I still feel like I was givin a gift even though I havent found a power supply yet, God had somethin for me. Just cant use it yet until god gives me the power supply. but my hunch believes that god will get me somebody who can build a custom power supply.
no update , no workflow :(
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Sorry bro early bird gets the worm lol
I think you would be interested in this video and his other videos on cassette tech etc.
ua-cam.com/video/P8ikiyiWIxQ/v-deo.html
analog tape is 65 million magnetic ferrous iron oxide particles, discrete to each electron per atom in each particle, per second, at 15 ips; so at 1.8ips cassette speed it'd be around 7.8 million particles per second, again, each discrete to the electron's energy state of each atom of each particle, versus 44, or 48 thousand times per second with 65536 discrete steps (16bit), or 16777216 (24bit) if you are lucky, this is genuinely why i see even the "lowest level" of reel to reels, being cassettes, as better than analog, their high frequency response is mechanical at the atomic scale and that leads to something interesting versus digital's perfect reproduction of the musicians sweating, like if i want that i want it with analog warmth at 30 inches per second on 2 inch width tape at least
that saying i just bought a fostex e16 and exactly this, I've never wanted to profit off what i do, but I plan to record direct to tape drum loops from tape to dsd, and I absolutely have this philosophy, there should just be resources for this, this should be everywhere, love it man
Good afternoon..First of all,new doesn't mean better,and there's a lot of LIES and myths about tape and the machines.There's NOTHING wrong with tape and never was,yet the industry needed a way to keep us buying and to control how we recorded.That's why they went from Cassette/VHS and then tried to use copy protection on DAT recorders.Cassettes were a great,clear,and efficient way to make recordings,archive,and share music,and they ended up wanting us to pay for content,over and over.What you might want to do though,is back up,find someone adept in working on tape machines,and clean it,service it,and bring it back up to specs,if it's not quite there.Then you want to keep the heads aligned,demagnetized,clean,and set the bias,for the blanks you intend to use.I used a LOT of Maxells,like the XL2,the white metal ones,and sometimes Denon,Sony,BASF,yet rarely TDKs because my machines would eat/tangle them.I have a Sansui 6 track cassette machine but i have yet to use it,because i use my SVHS semipro machines,a Darwin,and my samplers,like the Rp;and MV8800...I dont buy a bunch of gear i will rarely use either,so if I am not using something,it was probably given to me.I think gearlust is for children and folks who need validation,and I just dont,because I am over 10 years old..
Good points, but you have to admit scrubbing, FFWD/Rewind isnt very efficient lol. Being able to skip tracks was a real feature, even though it eventually killed the album in a lot of ways. I like the fact that more people are realizing the charm and irreplaceable personality of these types of machines and technologies, and I think it's dope that the appreciation is mostly coming from artists and creators.
I am definitely with you in getting it serviced. I think this one may be with me for a long time so I might as well invest in some TLC.
@@labandlegacy I use SVHS mostly as far as tape,and the efficiency has never been a problem,once you learn the machine.See,the issue with gearlust is,you cannot master but so much at one time,and end up with redundant machines,doing similar things.By having machines like the MV8800,Yamaha QY700.Midi patchbays,the ASR10,and more than two computer platforms,all the bases are covered.You can sequence through a DAW or through the hardware,and come up with endless sounds,from the samplers i have alone.If I was getting something new,it would be something like the Iridium,Polyend stuff.Soma stuff,HydraSynth,Medusa,and others which scream exploration.
Don’t use metal tapes type IV. It won’t hurt the heads or anything. Your recordings just won’t sound as good as type II cassettes which the machine is biased and designed to use. Metal tapes are also harder to erase. Obviously using a cassette based multitrack you’ll want it to be able to erase properly for bouncing, overdubs or stray fart sounds. Damn I’m babbling!!! Rad score homes. Ridiculous price! I started buying/collecting multi-tracks 15 or so years ago and now I wish I would’ve horded every single one I saw on eBay back then. The prices have gone bananas. Have fun dude beautiful machine.
I have one of these for sale
Yooooooo
Pawnshop wars lol get some grate useful gear tho👍🏾
😂😂😂 It’s my first pickup! I’m hooked now!
@@labandlegacy I hit the pawnshops up every now then lol got a few blessing from the pawnshop so I understand what fam with this situation 🙏🏾😊🙏🏾😊
Hey why you have a lil philly slang when you talk lol
I’m from South Jersey so I was in Philly on the regular lol
this is awesome, but doesn’t it also seems stupid that with all the technology we have in 2024 some kind of analog emulation isn’t built into every piece of recording equipment, something that would be so accurate as to fool even the most trained ears? it seems totally doable and yet I don’t get why it isnt everything- especially mpcs and stand-alone digital recorders
The new MPCs have Flavor Pro, and I have to say it’s been so good at vintage emulation that I have totally left this Tascam on the shelf. I also found a tape emulation plugin from Plugin Alliance that sounds awesome when I’m using the computer. Between those 2 I really haven’t felt the need to use much analog gear. I also have a pedal board for resampling sounds that are too “clean”.
@@labandlegacy I wonder what the flavor pro would sound like for recording some guitar and vocals into the MPC - like acoustic type stuff, I’ll give it a try
Anyone looking to buy one? I have one that came from the personal studio of Richard Marx.
"The holy grail of cassettes, the godfather of cassettes ALL cassette recorders" Man easy :) None of that is true.
If you don't give us the truth, you're just a heckler.
@@labandlegacy the truth is out there. My statement is clear. While all Tascams are great (I owned them all, but you are used to someone who factchecks and does the job for you) the 688 is not the great or godfather of all. Unless you use the words "Great/Godfather" just because is big and large and has 8 channels + the ability to take midis. The 688 were made in a time where the transiction from analog to digital was a thing, in fact they added midi ports and digital scene control which penalised the audio fidelity. Not bashing on your video or disrespect at all, but this is UA-cam where people who make videos dare to go off track and push a bit over the limit to make the content appealing, and trust me I do understand the trend (cassette). But then someone who knows more than us put you in place, and please stop this factcheck nonsense. If you are smart and someone told you something different go and get up to date.
Ok