The Baker Bowl
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2020
- The Philadelphia Phillies have had five home stadiums in their existence. In this video, we explore the history of the Baker Bowl, formerly known as Philadelphia Base Ball Grounds and National League Park. Once praised as a state of the art achievement in baseball stadium architecture, the Baker Bowl sadly deteriorated and became an eye sore that the Phillies abandoned in 1938. Throughout its history, the Baker Bowl saw the likes of Ed Delahanty, Gavvy Cravath, Grover Cleveland “Ol’ Pete” Alexander and Chuck Klein. The park hosted the Phillies’ first World Series in 1915, and Babe Ruth’s last game.
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It is amazing to see that in that bandbox hitter's ballpark, Grover Cleveland Alexander won 30 games 3 years in a row from 1915-1917 and won 27 in 1914 with ERAs under 2 ( and 1.22 in 1915) in the 30 win seasons.
I saw my first Phillies game in Connie Mack Stadium in 1967 or 68. The Phillies played the Chicago Cubs in a night game. I saw Ferguson Jenkins pitch, Ernie Banks at shortstop and Ron Santo. Chicago manager Leo Durocher got ejected in the 2nd or 3rd inning. Thanks for a wonderful and entertaining channel!
When they tore down Tiger Stadium, the found over a thousand dollars in coins, some dated as far back as 1902.
I found a picture of Ty Cobb! I can't wait to get it signed! 🙊
Chuck Klein is in the HOF thanks to this joint and pitching in this joint made Grover Cleveland Alexander even greater!
You nailed it, these places are holy ground. Just went to Google Maps to see what the Baker Bowl location looks like today and it's terribly sad.
Why is it sad tho, I'm not a Phillies fan but from everything that I've heard the baker bowl was a dump so why do you care about it so much. I heard that stadium was considered outdated even back in the 30s
My grandpa remembers taking a crap there in 1922!!!!! But he doesn’t remember the actual game at all?????!!!!!⚾️⚾️⚾️
Why can't people just say the neighborhood is black now and fucking dangerous.
When I was a Philly cop back in the late 60s, I patrolled that area. Connie Mack Stadium was 5 blocks up the street, and the former Baker Bowl site was a drive-through car wash in a high crime area. After baseball, that site was a racetrack.
I’m a baseball history nut residing in western Canada. This was an absolutely outstanding,fascinating and informative video. I really enjoyed learning about the Baker Bowl and the history of MLB in Philadelphia. And yes…I’ve already subscribed!!
Interesting insight and some rare pictures of the old park. I didn’t realize it’s proximity to Connie Mack, simply fascinating!
Thank you for the UA-cam post 👌
You can still see the indent of baker bowl at broad and Lehigh / 15th and Huntington . I drove it last week
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Wow. Just discovered your video. Thank you very much!! Great video, I've been a Phillies fan 67 years now. When I was a kid in the late 50's early 60's while attending a Phillies game at Connie Mack Stadium, with my dad, I remember him telling me about the old Baker Bowl, where the Phillies use to play. I remember him telling me the Baker Bowl was a small place that was a mess. I never knew where it was located in Philly. Now I know! Thank you very much.
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As a born and raised Pittsburgher, I've never been a fan of any Philadelphia teams (old NL East rivalries and such) 😆. I do, in fact though LOVE baseball. It's constant markings of the eras and the passing of time are incredible! I absolutely love watching presentations of baseball history like this. Although so many of the newer ballparks keep attempting to incorporate items and replications of the past, it really never seems to work unfortunately. 😥 I wish I could've seen a game at Forbes Field, but my first game attendances were at Three Rivers Stadium. I've been to the old Exhibition Stadium in Toronto, have attended a game at Coors Field and Camden Yards. I've seen Old Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park, and Wrigley Field. There's definitely something to be said for the old parks. IMHO new parks should be like those with the only alterations being newer technologies and facilities.
Great video!! Thank you for putting this together!!
Imagine how many career home runs Babe Ruth would have wound up with had he played at the Baker Bowl?
Playing in Yankee Stadium with the 295 foot right field line and 350 to right field wasn't bad.
In my day, it was 296 down the line and 344 to right field out to 407 in right center.
Aside from the short (less than 300 feet) right field in Yankee Stadium, the fence was about 3 feet high and not the towering height of Baker Bowl’s right field barrier. These features may have just as likely affected Ruth's numbers negatively.
@@eronavbj It was 296 right down the foul line. It immediately jutted out to 344 and then it zoomed out to 407 in right/center that was massive and kept going to 461 in center field.
Ruth was not known to be a dead pull hitter. He actually hit 367 homers on the road and 347 homers at home.
Ruth hit 259 homers in Yankee Stadium of his 714 homers!
So much for his Yankee Stadium advantage!
@@jacksmith5692
Correct. In Ruth's day the fences were even deeper. 495-505 to center. 470 to left-center, 400+ to straight away left.
A pitcher was doing poorly in a game at the Baker Bowl and the manager walked to the mound to remove him. The pitcher angrily fired the ball off the high tin right field wall. The right fielder had his head down, heard the sound of the ball hitting the tin and swiftly ran to the ball and fired a strike to 2nd base. ---- I heard this many years ago from a baseball historian on a sports radio program.
The right fielder was Hack Wilson of the Cubs. It is said he was a little hungover that day and wasn't paying too much attention. He reacted instinctively to the sound of the ball hitting the metal plate wall.
@@michaelward9880
Correct. Hack hit whiskey better than baseballs!
@@TheBatugan77 I think he was a great hitter until the booze got the best of him. It's another "if only he didn't drink so much" stories. He did hold the NL record for HR's in a season until the steroid monsters took the field.
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Yes.
The famous graffiti on the Lifebuoy ad appeared in 1935.
I love baseball history, especially it's stadiums of the past, so this was a very enjoyable video. Thanks. But it seems like many grandstands throughout history have been consumed by fire. And in Centennial parks case the team wasn't there. Was it being used for another function when the fire broke out?
Cool
Correction....Foxx and Klein are not the only MVP's both a cities team in the same year. Ernie Banks of the Cubs and Nellie Fox of the White Sox were MVP's in the 1959.
I'm 55 and whenever I hear "Baker Bowl" I think of Bill Campbell spitting all over the microphone!!
I'm 70 and I remember Bill Campbell but don't remember spitting on the mic. Probably the best play-by-play voice ever, certainly the most dramatic.
What an interesting field, they don’t make them like this anymore.
Yes good video I've been a fan of fillies for a long time along with my hometown team the Baltimore Orioles and I appreciate stories about the old ballpark
Thank you.
A RF wall even I could've reached.
does anyone know of original baker bowl seats?
I would love to find out if there are any 19th century ball parks that are still existing?!!
Yes and no.
What could possibly be inappropriate for kids in this video?
This is great to watch, but why the warning and disclaimer about children watching this ? What is wrong about it ?
Phillies W-L records in the 1930s were obscene.
I wonder what happened to the soap sign….
What is on the site today?
Correct.
@@TheBatugan77 How does "Correct" answer my question?
@@trapezemusic👈🤓
Right you are!
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why was babe ruth's braves jersey spelled BAVES ?
Haha, you think like me.
My thing is the dogged attachment of the definite article-- "The" Baker Bowl, rather than simply "Baker Bowl".
He was a member of the Boson Baves
How many home runs would the Babe have hit at Baker Bowl? Sophisticated algorithms, parameters, sabermetrics and quadratic equations give us the answer!
A shitload.
But he never hit a home run there! Baker Bowl will always have that record that it is the only major league ball park that Babe Ruth played and didn't hit one.
@@dennisholiday1868
Correct. And Ruth's Red Sox played the Phillies in the 1915 Series. Ruth did not pitch despite going 18-8 that year.
@@TheBatugan77 He did had another chance to do it when he was with The Boston Braves in his year as a player. After his last game at Baker Bowl he took it out on The Pittsburgh Pirates!
@@dennisholiday1868 Actually his last game at Baker was his last game, period. His 3 homer game at Pittsburgh was like 5-6 days before that.
@@dennisholiday1868
Hey dennis. Looks like you got figuratively pantsed by bemore, who decided to play a historical 'Mr. Helper'. Thoughts?
Darby had a Negro League team? Probably the best thing to ever come out of Darby. Fun facts!
Chuck Klein made the Hall of Fame thanks to that 280 foot right field wall. Over a five-year span from 1929 to 1933 here were Klein's combined stats at home, converted to a season's worth of games. (So in other words, if he played all games at the Baker Bowl between 1929 and 1933, this would have been his average season:
Batting average: 0.424
Slugging average: 0.772
On Base + Slugging: 1.28
Hits: 264
Doubles: 54
Home Runs: 49
Runs scored: 156
RBI's: 176
One year I believe he had 44 assists. If they'd cut that total in half, he'd have led the NL TWICE.
Phils moved outta Phila., Penna.'s former Baker Bowl during 1938 aeason/started playing their home games in former, what was then called Shibe Park (later known as Connie Mack Stadium 🏟) sharing that ballpark w/then-Amer. League Phila. Athletics as venue's 2 main co-tenants