250 VS 350 VS 450 | Husqvarna Comparison with Lap Times - Which is Fastest?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- We take the 2023 Husqvarna FC 250, FC 350, and FC 450 four strokes and put them head-to-head with laptimes to see which is fastest. Who won?
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Please....do a combined lap time comparison. What is the total time it took to do 7 laps on each? It is easy to throwdown a heater lap but, the combined lap total is what helps determine place at the end of a race. Still waiting for someone to show that.....but, thank you again for this vid. Very interested.
Exactly, most ppl can hang on for one fast lap on a 450, but what about lap 5 then 10. Let's see the lap times for each lap and see what drop off there is when you start to get tired
THIS ^^^
350
Good vid boys. I really wish all the OEM would start making 350's! I think for most guys including myself it's the perfect bike
Please send this to Honda....I'd 100% buy a CRF350R!!
Jasom M. over at MXA was 2-3sec. laps faster at Glen Helen on the GAGAS MC 30, over the 450 and 250... Nationals should bail on the 450 and run those as 350's.
I dont want to see Tomac on a 350
@@straightnobraker4677 Exactly. The top guys are going to be faster on the 450 in the nationals.
@@derekwoods8199 wouldn't be too sure about that. Cairoli won 4 mxgp titles in a row on a 350.
@@A-aron89 only because he said the early 450's were too brutal in the way they hit, once the 450's smoothed their power out he ditched the 350 for a 450 again
@tcmx712
So how is a 350 a bad thing then? According to you, Antonio Cairoli was beating faster 450's than today then.
I'm sure you realize the GP's are FULL works bikes. Free to do ANY mods the factory desires. They can tune for any power characteristic they want.
The 350 handles like a 250 & is just shy of a 450 in peak power.
Attention Yamaha: There is an market for a 350.
It would be great if Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki were to also make a 350.
Great review.
Suggestion I would like to see the new 300SX against various 4 strokes
I’d love to see a back to back comparison between a 2023 KTM/Husky 350 and a 2022 Gas Gas 350.
1) KTM 300SX vs KTM 350SX-F vs KTM 450SX-F. 2) 250 2 stroke vs 250 4 stroke and this might be worth doing with all the brands that make 250s two or 4 stroke.
I also would like to see one against 2023 300 SX compared to the 2023 350sx
I try to tell every how much more enjoyable/fun/fast the 350 is… I won’t ride anything else. Glad you made this vid. Only problem now is I’m going to have a harder time finding new models available haha
I can never understand the purpose of 450s.. noone can go faster with them... even the ama nationals differences between built 250s and 450s are so small... useless engines at all.... and with no racing feeling... like you ride an yami XT
Would love to see a 250/350/450 with Pro, Vet and young up and coming riders do 3 x 15 minute motos and watch the lap times closely.
I would like to see a 350 ktm or husky with maybe just pipe and suspension work versus a CRF/KX/YZ built 250 with hi compression piston, head work, pipe with suspension mods. Because that is where I am at, I’m a vet rider and don’t mind building up a bike. Thanks for doing these. 👊🏻
I've just switched to a ktm 250 4t with the mentioned mods and I'd take it over a 350 amd the 450 I had before. I'll admit sometimes (not very often though) you have to knock it down a gear more in the corners but if you get someone who knows how to map it well you can still get the ktm to bark down low
@@tcmx712 awesome thank you for your response! I think my next bike is a 250.
Husky 350 vs KTM 350
No one ever wants to admit the 350 is generally the better compromise. I think the Nationals should go to 150cc for what used to be the 125 class and 350’s for the main class, maybe have another open class again for the big bikes….; actually, what we should do is go back to 125-250-open classes, with no handicap on the two strokes. Their (two strokes) superiority has largely been bridged by technology. No need for it anymore. I think 125 four strokes tuned to the hilt would sound pretty bitchin’….
Wonder what the difference would be between the lowered husq 350 and regular height ktm 350 would be in lap times
and gasgas
Let's do it fellas 👍 What do yall' think ? 🤔😉
if you read/watch all the shootouts the first two years after they lowered the Husky's, the bikes were either placed first or nearly last, due to the extremes around this topic. short guys and vets just loved it. where as other shootouts with bigger guys said it was useless and put it down the list.
Picking up my Heritage Edition 350 tomorrow... Gods bless you all for doing this.
Me too!
Ktm 350 vs Husky 350 vs GasGas 350 ! Most people looking into buying at 350 would love understanding the differences between these 3.
no one talks about how the Husky being 10 mm lower in the suspension hardware front and rear, in reality in makes the whole bike 1 inch lower, which is a big deal when guys need a lower platform. on the flip side, big or tall guys are bummed out when they get one uninformed and have issues in ruts etc.
I think doing an annual "mega test" like the Car and Driver Lightning Lap would be amazing. Compare everything on one day at one track and do it at the same track every year. This would provide something that is comparatively lacking in moto, which is data versus almost exclusively subjective information.
Really want to see a comparison like this between the new 300 two stroke and a 350
We’ve got that in the works.
Yes please 👍💯🇺🇸
This!
Yes would be cool, comparson with 125 /300 2t on the same Track and compare with the times from the Bikes in this Video!!!
I think you should add in the 250sx too. So like a 2 stroke battle against the well rounded 350f 4 stroke
On road, off road, mx, desert you dont ride a bigger engine as hard so parts seem to last longer.
There's no regulation stopping a team from opting for a 350 (in the 450 class) on certain tracks. It would be nice if all manufacturers produced a 350, particularly Yamaha!
300sx vs 350 & maybe mix up some brands like the Honda crf250 vs 350
How about a vet intermediate or a regular novice rider do the same test. A pro can ride anything fast.
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A 250 would be more confidence inspiring as it's easier to manage and doesn't beat you up nearly as much. The only benefit I can see from a 450 would be you can relax a bit making certain jumps as you don't have to ring it out or be in the perfect gear coming out of corners.
I’d be curious to see the difference with a heavier rider. Also a bigger track and/or a sand track.
Excellent video. Will the Japanese join the 350 market or is the demand too small?
I think the 350 engine is KTM’s best selling engine. I don’t know why the Japanese don’t make a 350-seems easy from a development standpoint.
sadly, they wont for the same reason they never made an MX 150, 200 or 300 etc. because the race classes set the precedent.
Imagine that, put a 250 rider on a 450 and they're uncomfortable 😅
Who would have thought ?
300 two stroke vs 450 on starts
Yes yes yes! Keep up this 250/350/450 comparison! Slow people, fast tracks, lap averages, race seasons… do it all.
I rode a 450 and then a 250 and was pretty happy, but buying my Gas Gas 350 was an absolute revelation. Love the middleweight bikes!
I got a 350 ktm with cone valve suspention and a vortex ECU , i race it in the open class and got the hole shot , so much power and handling, best bike ive ever had.
2stroke vs 4stroke 😃
450 are unbeatable at the moment as a buyer general purpose..not a single reason to buy a lower cc bike even if its 2stroke..450 are a do it all beast
Who put the bloody music over them talking and thought yes, that's a good idea
should have thrown the tc250 in there!
Do the huskies corner better than the KTM's and other bikes with the 10mm shorter suspension?
yes. but you only want one if your light. tall or big guys still need the taller bikes to clear ruts etc.
My first time hearing about crossbox. How about a comparison review with crossbox and others
Me too 😉
I would like to see an ecu mapped 450 tamed down with more ride ability vs a 350
it helps, but you can never get rid of the heavier feel due to more rotating mass. remember in the old days we thought 500 2 strokes were so heavy but they were no mora than the eventual 250F. later we learned the feeling was partly from the spinning mass and gyro effect. they don't want to turn. same stuff is true with the new bikes.
Fifty Hp is all 99% of riders need.
Lap time testing is long overdue. Thanks for doing it. Keep doing it.
I thought fitness was number 1 in this sport?!?!?! How can a stocky fellow be so fast?!?!??
Hes not doing 35 minute motos on a national track..
Fitness isn’t always determined by someone who is skinny. Motocross requires that you be able to race at a heart rate of 195-200 beats per minute for 30-45 minutes and not be in an anaerobic state.
I really think racing would be better at the top level, and riders at lower levels would benefit from the displacements changing to 200 and 350. I think this would help stop riders from relying on pure horsepower. I know it won't happen, but it would be cool.
300sx vs 350sxf
I hope you re’rack this setup at glen Helen, would love to see those lap time differences . I owned a 350sxf. I sold my 350sxf after riding an 08 Honda crf450. 350 is a Good bike but felt like it needed a tad more. If ktm scrapped the 350 and made it somewhere around 390-400cc they’d be the perfect bike in my opinion
Which year 350 was it? Just curious, as the past 2 generations of 350s (2019-2022, 2023-) have been night and day more powerful than the previous ones
The first Yam 4S was a 426cc engine, interesting point you raise
08 CRF450 had a great engine it felt a big big bike to which I liked. I currently have a 23 Ktm 350 it’s got alot more bottom to mid than the previous engined 350.
@@pags1981 it was actually a 400cc first.
@@vitalmx I owned one, and it was a dog to ride !
250 sx 300 sx and 350sxf
KTM250SX vs KTM300SX vs KTM350SXF two smokers and a 4-puker at Glen Helen on the National Track and the REM Track.
In addition, KTM125SX vs KTM150SX vs YZ250 on the National and REM Tracks.
Really want a 23 yz450f but I have a line on a 22 fc350 with 5 hours for a great price. 5’8. 160 lb. Low b to upper c rider. Thoughts?
When you all going to do a faster track review? Glen Helen? LACR would be the best I think...
My 350 has the perfect amount of power to make me look like I know how to ride. The Japanese manufacturers best get on the wagon or they will be left behind.
This could be a new thing on a 350 for super motocross Michael Lindsay 250 450 combined, be good to see , they seem like the best bike not too fast not too slow according to this
This we’ll soon be your Supercross class coming in the years kTM already there !
Cool Vid Mike - Next time can you stick a graphic up that is just a flat out time comaparison, maybe total lap and section by section?
For a 53 year old fat guy who is out of shape and has a big beer gut and hasn't see his junk in a while the 350 is the best choice.
I'd like to see 350 4 stroke VS 250 2-stroke, since there similar in power
New video idea, Ktm vs Husky 350
Always liked 450 s and still do but bought a 350 a while back ,they really are the goldylocks zone for someone like me = old ,bigger ,and average ability.👍
I did a 3 sec lap time there on a 2005 yz250 2 stroke
test of all manufacturers 350 pls
300 2 stroke vs 450 4 stroke, please.
Should have done the hole line up
2 t shood be in it
Pretty awesome to tune in and listen when I have the husky 450 23 myself I like hearing other opinions on it
TC250 and 450SXF.
Looking really forward to a similar test on a more open Glen Helen style track. Would be really interesting to compare the newer FC and SXF to the new '23 GG MC with the previous gen motor and chassis as well. May be opening a can of worm based on the differences but especially when factoring in the 250 and 350, which lets be honest, probably really are the better choices for most vet's and weekend warriors, I think it would be an enlightening and informative video.
Ktm 350 vs Husky 350.
vital mx always advance
2-stroke vs 4-stroke 🙏🏻😎
That was great, well done guys 👍
Great video and commentary
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I keep hearing about more power, But on paper it’s still the same 54hp for the 450, But I seen the 2024 Ktm and Husky will be 64hp which is absolutely nuts, 450 class is about to get wild asf 😅
The 450s have been tuned for broad and useable power rather than peak HP.. The 350s are revving higher and have a narrower useable powerband. It's like how a 125 two stroke can pump out 35hp while a 500 is making 60hp, they're going for rideability after a certain point.
I threw a 2 tooth rear sprocket on my 2022 FC 350 for the track and it is awesome
Tony Cairoli used to win MXGP motos on a 350. He only switched back to the 450 because he was giving up too much on the start when the competition got faster
Tony hardly ever rode a 450 he had a 350 then I believe went to a 390 then in the end settled on a 410 it's mxgp they are not stuck with what the manufacturers make to sell
i believe a young man named Mike Brown allready proved how good the 350 is at lorretta's
mike brown deff agrees and proves it