Envy Core sounds like a wonderful new entry model. Would be great to see an online demo of 4k HDR high frame rate, multi-aspect videos that are more difficult to render “smoothly/accurately”… with an Envy Core, Pro, Extreme side by side comparison. This might help with model selection. Thanks, Scott.
I’m really looking forward to seeing this product at the Audio Advice show this weekend. A video processor that can manage aspect ratio’s on the fly is the only feature I really desire in my theater.
Does this have any real benefit for large flatscreens? Seems the majority of the value in this is intended for projectors and I'm having a hard time seeing value for something like this other than for high end projectors.
Agreed, you do not get the aspect ratio feature, but you do get all the others. For those with an expensive 85"+ flat screen, especially the high end 98"+ sizes this new price point makes a lot of sense. Thanks for watching
We should have been clearer there. You need an AVR with two outputs. Your gaming console goes to your AVR/Processor first, then the second video out goes to the Envy bypass.
We have not tried an Envy on an Epson but with this new price point it makes sense. If you have a good screen we think it will make a pretty big difference. Thanks for watching
There are some. On Dolby Vision, it is far better than Dolby Vision. DV is great for people who do not have an Envy, since it allows the TV to do a good job with tone mapping - something that just about all TVs tend to struggle with otherwise. DV works by sending meta data that tells the TV how to tone map. The Envy does not use or need that meta data - instead it looks at every single pixel of every single frame and does a frame by frame tone map (rather than a per-scene tone map like is typically done with DV). This means that when someone uses an Envy, instead of getting DV you are able to get the HDR10 base layer which is all the Envy needs, and generate render it's own proprietary tone mapping. T Here is a great chart to compare features on the models madvrenvy.com/wp-content/uploads/Envy-Model-Comparison-and-Specifications-Rev-2024E.pdf
I have a Sony X95L 85", KScape Strato V, AppleTV and Oppo 4k player. Do you think this is a system that would benefit much from adding a madVR Envy Core? My main hope would be that it would help with lower quality 4k streaming content from the AppleTV.
I have a optoma uhz65 theo its a laser projector it has a great picture l was going to upgrade to a jvc nz7 instead of that should l just get this new madvr since now it is more affordable
We could really do with a much cheaper option that doesn't do tone mapping (to make it cheaper) to pair with TVs and projectors that already do tone mapping and Dolby Vision. Or make tone mapping a separate pack like the premium add on for say $1999 and reduce the base price accordingly. Or just generally make the feature set more granular and reduce the hardware cost a lot to reduce the cost to entry then people can just pay for the features they need and/or add them over time if they're on a budget. Paying for this feels like a big amount of the still premium price you paid is going to waste if, for example, you just wanted vertical stretch on a high end oled TV that already has HDR mapping and high end picture processing.
Great review...Question. Appears most of the benefits are for higher end front projection. BUT what about a 16:9 Sony LED 98 inch? The processor in the Sonys are first rate but they do lack some of the features of the Envy. Would this be beneficial? Thoughts on this for us large flat screen users? This is the same cost as my TV :)
This looks like the model I've been waiting for! Using a scope screen, how does the Envy's automatic aspect ratio changing work with the projector's lens memory?
I train companies on marketing and sales, and I find it puzzling that some still rely on “dealers” to sell their products. Many customers now prefer purchasing directly from manufacturers or visiting a store to walk out with the equipment in hand. The simple experience of unboxing a product is invaluable, and fast options like next-day delivery are becoming essential.
I am still on the fence on this, but much more curious now. However, I am still confused on exactly how it works. So this goes inbetween my processor and projector? So I would connect this to the HDMI out on my processor to the in on this and then the out to my projector? Then, it processes the image from whatever connected device is hitting the processor, Shield, Fire TV, PS5, XBSX, etc. Then it processes that image and sends to my projector, which also does video processing that I need to turn off? Which I don't see where on my Epson 6050. Speaking of, how does that work for 4K 120 gaming. Would I still need to update my projector, or would my devices sense the MadVR as a 4K 120 device? Thanks,
You are correct, it goes in between your processor and projector. You do not need to turn off your projector processing. Since the Envy is so processing intensive, it has too much lag for gaming. You need an AVR with two video outs. You run your gaming console to the AVR and out to the Envy bypass input from the 2nd video out on your AVR or processor. Hope this helps
With $5k, would you get a MadVR and pair it with an old BenQ 2050 projector, or would you upgrade the projector to a 4K Sony or JVC with lens memory? And why? This is for. 2.35:1 aspect ratio screen.
We'd most likely recommend going with a new Sony or JVC projector. The processing in those are great and will be a huge upgrade from your current projector. Then, you could always add a MadVR down the line for better performance.
Great product. Going to be a big one for Madvr Labs. Regarding the aspect ratio adjustment on the Core + Premium, will there always be black bars when watching cinema (widescreen) content at 16:9?
Very exciting. And great presentation. Will this offer great enhancement to Dolby Vision content on an OLED tv? Seems most new shows and movies on streaming are Dolby Vision.
Thank you. Yes, it is far better than Dolby Vision. DV is great for people who do not have an Envy, since it allows the TV to do a good job with tone mapping - something that just about all TVs tend to struggle with otherwise. DV works by sending meta data that tells the TV how to tone map. The Envy does not use or need that meta data - instead it looks at every single pixel of every single frame and does a frame by frame tone map (rather than a per-scene tone map like is typically done with DV). This means that when someone uses an Envy, instead of getting DV you are able to get the HDR10 base layer which is all the Envy needs, and generate render it's own proprietary tone mapping Hope that helps
I have 16.9 screen, when watching some movies I understand it will get rid of the black bars and fill up the screen like IMAX, but wouldn’t this ruin the integrity of movie when it was meant for 2.4 style screen. I mean this device is more for who has a wide screen 2.4 and want to fill up 16.9 picture into 2.4, instead of vice versa.
Yes, for the aspect ratio control feature, you need a 2.40 screen for it to work best, but you get all of the other picture enhancements with a 16:9 screen. Hope that helps
The only Feature that i would care for, is converting 4K 24 FPS to 60 FPS for the look of HFR Movies like "The Hobbit", "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" or "Gemini Man"... This the Core still can't do?
Hello DeadpoolTesla - The features you are referring to is MotionAI, found exclusively in the Envy Extreme mode - that can not only do 4K 24 to 60, but also 4K24 to 48 and even 4K24 to 4K120, if your display supports those signal types.
@@madvrlabs So sad... I would have instantly bought the Core, if that would have been possible with it. That is the single most annoying thing - this damn old sticking to 24 Frames... Then the MotionFlow of my Sony Laser must work longer.
@@DeadpoolTesla We certainly know the frustration with your current situation of 24 frames. Unfortunately MotionAI is extremely GPU intensive, and requires the higher GPU power found in the Extreme, so this is not possible in the Core or Pro. Thank you for your interest though!
I am AA Raleigh customer. Just got my HT done with you guys. I have JVC NZ7 and was wondering if Envy core is going to help to get rid of black bars on my 2.4 screen 150”? I have configured 10 user modes set on JVC and I have to switch between them for each movie to find the best possible that fills the screen with lowest black bars possible. Also what’s the major difference between Envy Core and Pro? Thanks!
Yes the Core will do the trick and greatly improve your picture too. Please reach out to your sales associate to discuss the differences although the Core is by far the best value. Thanks for your support. We hope you’ll drop by Audio Advice Live this weekend.
Okay great videos always. How are you feeling lately? You sound like you're pushing through your voice when you speak. And you're in a much bigger hurry. All signs that a person is becoming short of breath. If you are healthy maybe try slowing down and talking a little quieter there's a thing called Mike Gain You just turn the mic up. Otherwise see a doctor that way we can keep you around a little longer.
Funny you should ask. We are preparing for Audio Advice Live which kicks off tomorrow and I've been like a kid in a candy shop getting prepared round the clock to make this incredible for consumers. Will likely lose my voice by the end of the weekend, but I am going to have a ball. Will make sure to drink plenty of hot tea and honey to protect my voice. Thanks for caring!
Thanks for the feedback. Cool and quiet, while running intensive video processing, takes priority here. And if you get a chance to experience the Envy Core in person, you'll feel how cool it runs and hear how quiet it actually is. If you're familiar with the Nvidia GPUs and how loud they can be otherwise, I think you'd agree this was the way to go. Thanks again!
@@muddasirsultan6256 Thanks for your question. Unfortunately not. It is important for the warranty not to break the seal or security screws, and even if the hardware is modified, the Envy would detect the modification and display a license error.
@@AudioAdvice I'm probably better off upgrading my $5K projector to a $10K projector and passing on the video processor. I think it makes better sense if they were to team up with a projector manufacturer and put their technology in them rather than doing an external box.
I know that this device is a video processor. But for 5K why not include a player too? I mean a zidoo z9x can play everything and costs $180. They should include a player to avoid the signal passing through two HDMI cables AND a second synced HDMI out for audio. Thats the device I and many others would buy, why have so many boxes? Why should the AV receiver pass through a video signal?
This is an awesome announcement!! This is something so many have been hoping for. My guess is that these will be quite popular. Thanks for the video!
Agreed! We think they will be super popular too!
This and the new K'scape Strato is a killer combo
Plex and sailing the 4k seas is free.
@@final3119 argggghhh matey 😁🏴☠️
Exactly! Thanks for sharing
I have been wanting an Envy for several years but it was out of my budget. This is perfect for me. Finally!!!
Awesome! This will be a great addition to your setup :)
I am in the middle of building my theater and I am comming out for audio advice live. I am happy I am going to be coming out.
We hope to see you there!
You'll have a blast. Say hello if you see me there.
This is an insane value option that shreds the price/performance ratio of the prior products, It's on my list for sure now
It sure is! A great option for so many people!
@@AudioAdvice if we pre-order though, you take payment instantly right? That's a problem for me. ah to finance or not to finance
Envy Core sounds like a wonderful new entry model. Would be great to see an online demo of 4k HDR high frame rate, multi-aspect videos that are more difficult to render “smoothly/accurately”… with an Envy Core, Pro, Extreme side by side comparison. This might help with model selection. Thanks, Scott.
Great idea! Thanks for watching!
I’m really looking forward to seeing this product at the Audio Advice show this weekend. A video processor that can manage aspect ratio’s on the fly is the only feature I really desire in my theater.
We are sure you will like it and look forward to seeing you at AA Live
I think you'll love it. Hope to see you there!
We're excited to meet you and have you play with the Core. You'll be one of the first in the world to do so. :)
a neat feature to be sure....but...is it really worth 5 thousand dollars??
Having seen the huge improvement that the Envy brings to a Projection system, I can't wait to check out this new Core.
We hope you get a chance soon!
Does this have any real benefit for large flatscreens? Seems the majority of the value in this is intended for projectors and I'm having a hard time seeing value for something like this other than for high end projectors.
Agreed, you do not get the aspect ratio feature, but you do get all the others. For those with an expensive 85"+ flat screen, especially the high end 98"+ sizes this new price point makes a lot of sense. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice So it won't move up the image with an ultra wide film?
@@timobi_1604 You could have it do that yes, but that just changes its position, not size.
What benefits of auto aspect ratio does this have on 16:9 screens?
There are not any. But you get all the other image enhancements. Thanks for watching
If you use the passthrough port for a game console how are you getting the audio back to the AVR?
We should have been clearer there. You need an AVR with two outputs. Your gaming console goes to your AVR/Processor first, then the second video out goes to the Envy bypass.
How will a MadVR work with a bigger sized TVs.
Will it give a lot of benefits as well except from the aspect ratio part?
If you have a larger TV, yes, you get almost all of the benefits except the aspect ratio. Thanks for watching
would this improve the picture quality on an Epson home Cinema projector or do you really need a more high-end projector to reap the benefits?
We have not tried an Envy on an Epson but with this new price point it makes sense. If you have a good screen we think it will make a pretty big difference. Thanks for watching
Does the core offer any improvements in the motion department or is that only with MotionAI on the Extreme? Also, how about Dolby Vision support?
There are some. On Dolby Vision, it is far better than Dolby Vision. DV is great for people who do not have an Envy, since it allows the TV to do a good job with tone mapping - something that just about all TVs tend to struggle with otherwise. DV works by sending meta data that tells the TV how to tone map. The Envy does not use or need that meta data - instead it looks at every single pixel of every single frame and does a frame by frame tone map (rather than a per-scene tone map like is typically done with DV). This means that when someone uses an Envy, instead of getting DV you are able to get the HDR10 base layer which is all the Envy needs, and generate render it's own proprietary tone mapping. T
Here is a great chart to compare features on the models madvrenvy.com/wp-content/uploads/Envy-Model-Comparison-and-Specifications-Rev-2024E.pdf
is the envy only works for projectors?
It’s mostly used with widescreen projectors yes but this new price point makes it a good choice for high end large screens. Thanks for watching
What features of the Envy Core are noticeably diminished when an (Sony) OLED TV is used?
You can still get a lot of the benefits. Please reach out to our team to discuss. Thanks for watching
I have a Sony X95L 85", KScape Strato V, AppleTV and Oppo 4k player. Do you think this is a system that would benefit much from adding a madVR Envy Core? My main hope would be that it would help with lower quality 4k streaming content from the AppleTV.
It should. Even your Kscape will look better!
Will this benefit on a 1080P Projector ?
There would be some but you would be better off upgrading the projector first. Thanks for watching
I have a optoma uhz65 theo its a laser projector it has a great picture l was going to upgrade to a jvc nz7 instead of that should l just get this new madvr since now it is more affordable
Great question, please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss the best path. Thanks for watching.
We could really do with a much cheaper option that doesn't do tone mapping (to make it cheaper) to pair with TVs and projectors that already do tone mapping and Dolby Vision.
Or make tone mapping a separate pack like the premium add on for say $1999 and reduce the base price accordingly. Or just generally make the feature set more granular and reduce the hardware cost a lot to reduce the cost to entry then people can just pay for the features they need and/or add them over time if they're on a budget.
Paying for this feels like a big amount of the still premium price you paid is going to waste if, for example, you just wanted vertical stretch on a high end oled TV that already has HDR mapping and high end picture processing.
Great review...Question. Appears most of the benefits are for higher end front projection. BUT what about a 16:9 Sony LED 98 inch? The processor in the Sonys are first rate but they do lack some of the features of the Envy. Would this be beneficial? Thoughts on this for us large flat screen users? This is the same cost as my TV :)
Thank you and yes it will improve your already great Sony!
Is there any benefit for tv owners 65 s95b?
Absolutely! This will dramatically improve your TV image! If you want to learn more you can reach out to our experts at audioadvice.com!
Can you use the madVR Envy with a Hisense PX1 Pro UST?
You could but you would need an AVR to do the video switching. Thanks for watching
Does this work with Dolby Vision movies?
Yes
This looks like the model I've been waiting for! Using a scope screen, how does the Envy's automatic aspect ratio changing work with the projector's lens memory?
You no longer use your projector lens memory. The Envy handles it all. Thanks for watching
I train companies on marketing and sales, and I find it puzzling that some still rely on “dealers” to sell their products. Many customers now prefer purchasing directly from manufacturers or visiting a store to walk out with the equipment in hand. The simple experience of unboxing a product is invaluable, and fast options like next-day delivery are becoming essential.
I am still on the fence on this, but much more curious now. However, I am still confused on exactly how it works. So this goes inbetween my processor and projector? So I would connect this to the HDMI out on my processor to the in on this and then the out to my projector? Then, it processes the image from whatever connected device is hitting the processor, Shield, Fire TV, PS5, XBSX, etc. Then it processes that image and sends to my projector, which also does video processing that I need to turn off? Which I don't see where on my Epson 6050. Speaking of, how does that work for 4K 120 gaming. Would I still need to update my projector, or would my devices sense the MadVR as a 4K 120 device? Thanks,
You are correct, it goes in between your processor and projector. You do not need to turn off your projector processing. Since the Envy is so processing intensive, it has too much lag for gaming. You need an AVR with two video outs. You run your gaming console to the AVR and out to the Envy bypass input from the 2nd video out on your AVR or processor. Hope this helps
With $5k, would you get a MadVR and pair it with an old BenQ 2050 projector, or would you upgrade the projector to a 4K Sony or JVC with lens memory? And why?
This is for. 2.35:1 aspect ratio screen.
We'd most likely recommend going with a new Sony or JVC projector. The processing in those are great and will be a huge upgrade from your current projector. Then, you could always add a MadVR down the line for better performance.
Great product. Going to be a big one for Madvr Labs. Regarding the aspect ratio adjustment on the Core + Premium, will there always be black bars when watching cinema (widescreen) content at 16:9?
Thanks, yes its a hit already. Do you mean if you have a 16:9 screen and watch 2.40 content? Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice yes
@@sprint110 Yes, with a 16:9 screen you will still have black bars. Hope that helps
Intrigued on this Envy core. I wonder what would be better the Envy Core or a preowned Extreme MK1?
Great question. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss pros and cons. Thanks for watching
Very exciting. And great presentation. Will this offer great enhancement to Dolby Vision content on an OLED tv? Seems most new shows and movies on streaming are Dolby Vision.
Thank you. Yes, it is far better than Dolby Vision. DV is great for people who do not have an Envy, since it allows the TV to do a good job with tone mapping - something that just about all TVs tend to struggle with otherwise. DV works by sending meta data that tells the TV how to tone map. The Envy does not use or need that meta data - instead it looks at every single pixel of every single frame and does a frame by frame tone map (rather than a per-scene tone map like is typically done with DV). This means that when someone uses an Envy, instead of getting DV you are able to get the HDR10 base layer which is all the Envy needs, and generate render it's own proprietary tone mapping
Hope that helps
@@AudioAdvice Cool!
Will this make Disney+ content look better? It looks very grainy/noisy on my Sony OLED.
Yes, it will help. Thanks for watching
I have 16.9 screen, when watching some movies I understand it will get rid of the black bars and fill up the screen like IMAX, but wouldn’t this ruin the integrity of movie when it was meant for 2.4 style screen. I mean this device is more for who has a wide screen 2.4 and want to fill up 16.9 picture into 2.4, instead of vice versa.
Yes, for the aspect ratio control feature, you need a 2.40 screen for it to work best, but you get all of the other picture enhancements with a 16:9 screen. Hope that helps
The only Feature that i would care for, is converting 4K 24 FPS to 60 FPS for the look of HFR Movies like "The Hobbit", "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" or "Gemini Man"...
This the Core still can't do?
Hello DeadpoolTesla - The features you are referring to is MotionAI, found exclusively in the Envy Extreme mode - that can not only do 4K 24 to 60, but also 4K24 to 48 and even 4K24 to 4K120, if your display supports those signal types.
@@madvrlabs So sad...
I would have instantly bought the Core, if that would have been possible with it. That is the single most annoying thing - this damn old sticking to 24 Frames...
Then the MotionFlow of my Sony Laser must work longer.
@@DeadpoolTesla We certainly know the frustration with your current situation of 24 frames. Unfortunately MotionAI is extremely GPU intensive, and requires the higher GPU power found in the Extreme, so this is not possible in the Core or Pro. Thank you for your interest though!
Scott could you please compare the JVC NZ900 vs the Sony Bravia 9, I am in the market for a new projector and want to see which one is best!
Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss those two. Thanks for watching
I just need the auto ratio changing.
That is a great feature but the other video improvements it offers are pretty big! Thanks for watching
I am AA Raleigh customer. Just got my HT done with you guys. I have JVC NZ7 and was wondering if Envy core is going to help to get rid of black bars on my 2.4 screen 150”? I have configured 10 user modes set on JVC and I have to switch between them for each movie to find the best possible that fills the screen with lowest black bars possible. Also what’s the major difference between Envy Core and Pro? Thanks!
Yes the Core will do the trick and greatly improve your picture too. Please reach out to your sales associate to discuss the differences although the Core is by far the best value. Thanks for your support. We hope you’ll drop by Audio Advice Live this weekend.
@@AudioAdvice Greetings from Munich Germany, does the core also support 3D BR signal from my Infitec 3D system?
WHERE TO BUY IN INDIA ...?
We are not sure, sorry
Good news from madVR. Awesome to see a down market option.
Agreed!
Got mine on order this morning🙂 Thanks Michael G!
Thanks for your support! We really appreciate it!
@@AudioAdvice I can't get an image through it. I just get the logo when it first powers on, nothing after that.
@@mfkhometheater7742 So sorry you are having trouble. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for help.
About time lumagen’s arrogance got a rival to push them to one side.
Haha. Thanks for watching
Okay great videos always. How are you feeling lately? You sound like you're pushing through your voice when you speak. And you're in a much bigger hurry. All signs that a person is becoming short of breath. If you are healthy maybe try slowing down and talking a little quieter there's a thing called Mike Gain You just turn the mic up. Otherwise see a doctor that way we can keep you around a little longer.
Funny you should ask. We are preparing for Audio Advice Live which kicks off tomorrow and I've been like a kid in a candy shop getting prepared round the clock to make this incredible for consumers. Will likely lose my voice by the end of the weekend, but I am going to have a ball. Will make sure to drink plenty of hot tea and honey to protect my voice. Thanks for caring!
MK2 owners are pissed.
Nice to see. The design though 🤦♂️ holy holes Batman.
There's basically a PC graphics card in there doing all the upscaling, downscaling, tone mapping and all so make sense it'd need some ventilation lol
Thanks for the feedback. Cool and quiet, while running intensive video processing, takes priority here. And if you get a chance to experience the Envy Core in person, you'll feel how cool it runs and hear how quiet it actually is. If you're familiar with the Nvidia GPUs and how loud they can be otherwise, I think you'd agree this was the way to go. Thanks again!
Thanks. Yes it needs air flow
@@chibbyylolcould I remove the 4060 card and install a 4090?
@@muddasirsultan6256 Thanks for your question. Unfortunately not. It is important for the warranty not to break the seal or security screws, and even if the hardware is modified, the Envy would detect the modification and display a license error.
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Thanks!
I think I'd rather spend $5K on a better projector.
Fair enough! A madVR can make your current projector look even better though 😊
@@AudioAdvice I'm probably better off upgrading my $5K projector to a $10K projector and passing on the video processor. I think it makes better sense if they were to team up with a projector manufacturer and put their technology in them rather than doing an external box.
I know that this device is a video processor. But for 5K why not include a player too? I mean a zidoo z9x can play everything and costs $180.
They should include a player to avoid the signal passing through two HDMI cables AND a second synced HDMI out for audio.
Thats the device I and many others would buy, why have so many boxes? Why should the AV receiver pass through a video signal?
Thanks for the feedback, that is actually an interesting idea we will pass on.