We get fairly regular (2-3 times a year) power cuts in our part of Dorset, so I invested in a 12v Lithium battery for both my marine tanks. Using a Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery, they are mostly happy to be 'deep cycled' (fully charged and discharged) with minimal degradation (they're designed for caravans, boats, etc, and larger versions for whole house batteries). Pairing with a 12v-24v converter, a large 24v power supply (enough for all the pumps on my tank) and a simple power relay, and I have a huge and flexible backup for any 24v kit I need. I can run two Maxspect Jump return pumps, a Maxspect Jump Skimmer and two Gyre 350s on my 5ft tank, for over a day (I gave up testing after 10 hours, still at 60%) from a single power socket and auto-switching to a battery a third of the size of a standard car battery whenever main power is lost. Well worth the investment for me.
Excellent video my Ecotech backup just didnt backup after 3 years, I ordered and installed this and it works great backing up 2 x MP40's in East Sussex :)
For what you're ultimately buying, the hardware side of this hobby is a cash cow / joke. Nice to see you highlight the ecotech power storage in a fancy looking case.
With all the attention alternative battery options have received lately, I wonder if EcoTech (or really, Aperture) will feel enough pressure to upgrade the antiquated VorTech backup battery to a proper modern standard that’s more worthy of the high price point, or whether they won’t see a hard enough hit to sales to do anything different. Will be an intriguing limited-scale test of their intensive marketing approach, for sure. Fantastic video. Really enjoyed it, this option is excellent.
Great News!!, I run my EcoTech battery on my M2 return pump, I changed the original battery over to a Wheel chair type battery as your older video recommended and no faults, just a note that when using the back up battery on a return pump you will need a booster battery connected to your battery to overcome head pressure!! Would this be the same on the Lithium battery perhaps you could give that a trial!, I’ve had a couple of power outages and the batteries worked very well on the short time that the power was out. Love your Videos and insights you give.
Hello, I am writing from Italy and I apologize if my English is not correct. Congratulations for the very useful video as was the one that explained how to replace the original battery. I would now like to purchase this lithium battery backup system for the same Vortech MP 40 pumps. I have to get two. The link rightly takes me to the Amazon website UK, but only some indicate products can be shipped to Italy. I therefore kindly ask you to confirm that the products are this one: Lithium Battery: TalentCell Mini UPS Uninterrupted Power Supply 27000mAh 98Wh Lithium ion Backup Battery with DC 12V/9V/5V Output Adapter plug: DC Power Adapter 5.5 mm x 2.1 mm to 3.5 mm x 1.3 mm, DC in line socket Female to DC Male Plug, Coaxial Power Converter for CCTV Equipment, Video Surveillance Camera, LED lights, Notebook, PC I wouldn't want to order something similar but wrong. Thanks and congratulations again!
So I have the Ecotech battery back up. I had to replace the battery in it by drilling out the rivets. Saved me $180! My question for you does this battery backup work the same way ? So if there’s a power outage, it automatically kicks on and I don’t have to press an on button? Thanks a lot, dude. Love watching your videos from 🇺🇸 😊
Also couple months ago my Ecotech versa m2 pump stopped working so I’ve changed to ai xis 90 model because it works on mobius app but I forgot about the battery back up option will this lithium alternative connect to ai axis model ??
Great vid! I have an MP40 and Vectra M2 on my Ecotech battery backup, could I swap my current battery backup for the Lithium battery and power both off of it? The Vectra plugged in via Ecotech booster cable and obviously running time will be reduced
Dear Sir Reef of Dork, sorry to bother you, as this battery is no longer available, could possibly you recommend a replacement to power my vectra M2? Thanks in advance 👍
It's dead simple with anything 12v or less, but more complicated with anything over 12v (which is most powerheads unfortunately). But I'll talk about that more when I get Telegraham back on the livestream and I'll show a bit more detail in my next video when I do the nano battery backup.
No, this goes into the Vortech's dedicated battery backup slot which is for battery backup mode only so you'll still need to use the stock power supply.
@@ReefDorkXtra after a lot of searching couldn't really find anything similar for Aus. But what I did find was the Ecoflow Delta 2, which for the price of 2x ecotech units has more than 4x the capacity (1024Wh (85Ah@12V))
I didn't try, but it has 4x 12v outputs so potentially yes. But I don't know if it'll be able to cope with the amount of watts 2 MP40s would draw. 2x MP10s would potentially be OK mind.
Isn't this much smaller than the ecotech? Ecotech is 18 Amp-Hour @ 12-volt =216 wh. The linked battery says it is: 27amp hour @ 3.7v (99.9wh), and gives its own wh as 98. So under half the size (for under half the cost). Just saying that the deal isn't that amazing. Something like the ecoflow river with ~288wh is probably more comparable (also cheaper than the ecotech).
I just have an old car battery hooked up to a trickle charger on one side and a basic transfer switch+ DC buck converter on the other so i might not be the target customer.
Good choice if you are using EcoTech gear however since this is a Lithium ion battery you need to ensure it is not kept inside humid environments. A short will be very bad! Also if you are using it as the main source of power via the backup power port on EcoTech controllers, the devices will throttle down to backup battery mode and will not run your main program. Perhaps you should mention that.
@@kalamazoo_reefer Yes. If you go into settings you will see that battery backup max speed value is hard set to 50%. Not too bad for emergencies but if you want to run it full time then yes. When I tested with my custom batteries I saw it didn't obey the program and remained constant speed but maybe that is something they have changed now. I will test and let you know.
Looking forward to the video for other powerheads, I’d love to do this for my Nero 5’s
or nero 3s!
We get fairly regular (2-3 times a year) power cuts in our part of Dorset, so I invested in a 12v Lithium battery for both my marine tanks. Using a Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery, they are mostly happy to be 'deep cycled' (fully charged and discharged) with minimal degradation (they're designed for caravans, boats, etc, and larger versions for whole house batteries). Pairing with a 12v-24v converter, a large 24v power supply (enough for all the pumps on my tank) and a simple power relay, and I have a huge and flexible backup for any 24v kit I need.
I can run two Maxspect Jump return pumps, a Maxspect Jump Skimmer and two Gyre 350s on my 5ft tank, for over a day (I gave up testing after 10 hours, still at 60%) from a single power socket and auto-switching to a battery a third of the size of a standard car battery whenever main power is lost. Well worth the investment for me.
Do you mind sharing what battery that you went with? I'm also looking at doing the same.
Excellent video my Ecotech backup just didnt backup after 3 years, I ordered and installed this and it works great backing up 2 x MP40's in East Sussex :)
Thanks for this! Found the unit in Canada and ordered it. It was 1/3 of the price of the eco tech unit! I really appreciate this tip!
Thank you reef legend, this is incredibly useful! 👍
Thanks for this & the links Alex , nice one fella 👏🏼👍🏻
For what you're ultimately buying, the hardware side of this hobby is a cash cow / joke.
Nice to see you highlight the ecotech power storage in a fancy looking case.
It’s a rip off…
EcoTech,AI/bulk reef supply all owned by the same parent company, go figure 🤔
Oh and the big you tube channels pushing these products, you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours
With all the attention alternative battery options have received lately, I wonder if EcoTech (or really, Aperture) will feel enough pressure to upgrade the antiquated VorTech backup battery to a proper modern standard that’s more worthy of the high price point, or whether they won’t see a hard enough hit to sales to do anything different. Will be an intriguing limited-scale test of their intensive marketing approach, for sure.
Fantastic video. Really enjoyed it, this option is excellent.
My guess is not but I hope they do. A LIFEPO4 option would be my choice - maybe a 9ah, an 18ah and a27+ah option...
@@telegraham I suspect the same.
@@ReefDorkXtra LiFePO4 would be the logical choice. They could likely keep the form factor of the housing and everything.
Thank you I just ordered this
Purchased thank you Alex 😊
Great video and totally agree I use a cheap ups battery and works great
Just bought one. Thanks
I couldnt find the equivalent or adaptors in the US. Anyone have a link for these items? Thx
Great News!!, I run my EcoTech battery on my M2 return pump, I changed the original battery over to a Wheel chair type battery as your older video recommended and no faults, just a note that when using the back up battery on a return pump you will need a booster battery connected to your battery to overcome head pressure!!
Would this be the same on the Lithium battery perhaps you could give that a trial!, I’ve had a couple of power outages and the batteries worked very well on the short time that the power was out.
Love your Videos and insights you give.
Hello, I am writing from Italy and I apologize if my English is not correct. Congratulations for the very useful video as was the one that explained how to replace the original battery. I would now like to purchase this lithium battery backup system for the same Vortech MP 40 pumps. I have to get two. The link rightly takes me to the Amazon website UK, but only some indicate products can be shipped to Italy. I therefore kindly ask you to confirm that the products are this one:
Lithium Battery:
TalentCell Mini UPS Uninterrupted Power Supply
27000mAh 98Wh Lithium ion Backup Battery with DC 12V/9V/5V Output
Adapter plug:
DC Power Adapter 5.5 mm x 2.1 mm to 3.5 mm x 1.3 mm, DC in line socket Female to DC Male Plug, Coaxial Power Converter for CCTV Equipment, Video Surveillance Camera, LED lights, Notebook, PC
I wouldn't want to order something similar but wrong. Thanks and congratulations again!
Yes, that looks right!
Mate, your English is better than most of the English that post here 😂
Great, thanks for that I have been looking for a viable battery back up for a while. I have various Neros that this would foot the bill for.
It won't work on Neros - they're all 24v and this is 12v so you'll need an adapter to make that work.
@@ReefDorkXtraThanks for that, it looks like a great addition for 12v power heads.
So I have the Ecotech battery back up. I had to replace the battery in it by drilling out the rivets. Saved me $180!
My question for you does this battery backup work the same way ? So if there’s a power outage, it automatically kicks on and I don’t have to press an on button? Thanks a lot, dude. Love watching your videos from 🇺🇸 😊
Yep, it's a straight swap for the Ecotech battery backup.
Need a recommendation for across the pond!!!
Thanks, just purchased
Any idea if this would work for Nero’s? I guess I need to look at input voltage.
Afraid not - even the smallest Nero/Axis are both 24v
@@ReefDorkXtra I guess I’ll stick with the UPS. 😂
Also couple months ago my Ecotech versa m2 pump stopped working so I’ve changed to ai xis 90 model because it works on mobius app but I forgot about the battery back up option will this lithium alternative connect to ai axis model ??
No, unfortunately this is 12v and the Axis 90 is 24v I believe. It only works on the Ecotech stuff because their battery backup port is 12v...
Does this work with a pump that just has an outlet?
Not if it has a standard plug - this only accepts 5.5mm connectors
Great vid! I have an MP40 and Vectra M2 on my Ecotech battery backup, could I swap my current battery backup for the Lithium battery and power both off of it? The Vectra plugged in via Ecotech booster cable and obviously running time will be reduced
Possibly. The lithium has 4x 12v outlets but I only tested it on one powerhead so couldn't say for sure...
Thanks Alex - it’s crazy how long Exotech have left the Vortechs and Battery Backup without updates
Alex I have mp40’s does this just plug straight in as you say ? Is there a separate lead also that runs the mp40 to the battery ?
It plugs straight into the the battery backup port on the mp40 - the same port you plug the Ecotech battery backup into
Dear Sir Reef of Dork, sorry to bother you, as this battery is no longer available, could possibly you recommend a replacement to power my vectra M2? Thanks in advance 👍
I haven't been able to find any similar alternatives I'm afraid 🙁
Thanks for looking 👍
Interested to know the logistics with different devices that don’t have a back up ports🤔
It's dead simple with anything 12v or less, but more complicated with anything over 12v (which is most powerheads unfortunately). But I'll talk about that more when I get Telegraham back on the livestream and I'll show a bit more detail in my next video when I do the nano battery backup.
Fort Tunze devices you can buy the Safety connector. For maxspect Gyre pumps you can buy a backup battery adapter. Don't know for other brands
Can I use this with a Vectra Return Pump with the separate booster cable that can be purchased?
Yep
So this unit eliminates the need for the power adapter of the vortech?
No, this goes into the Vortech's dedicated battery backup slot which is for battery backup mode only so you'll still need to use the stock power supply.
Would this work for something like Jebao wave makers???
Jim im looking your way...
Not straight out of the box because those are 24v but I'll do a livestream with Jim soon where I'll dig into all these sorts of things!
Id love to make this work on my maxpect gyres
Can I let on all the time? In the power?
Yes
Would any 24v backup work? I’m over in the states. Amazon doesn’t sell that one here.
Any 12v will yeah - just search mini WiFi UPS. Although Telegraham bought this one in the States and has been running it for a year or so now.
Any ideas where to get this or something equivalent in Australia?
It's a mini UPS made for WiFi routers so do a bit of Googling and see what turns up. Should be stuff on Amazon.
@@ReefDorkXtra after a lot of searching couldn't really find anything similar for Aus. But what I did find was the Ecoflow Delta 2, which for the price of 2x ecotech units has more than 4x the capacity (1024Wh (85Ah@12V))
Can you plug more than one ecotech into the battery?
I didn't try, but it has 4x 12v outputs so potentially yes. But I don't know if it'll be able to cope with the amount of watts 2 MP40s would draw. 2x MP10s would potentially be OK mind.
Would this work on sicce power heads their is a port in the controller
Don't know to be honest, never had a Sicce powerhead...
Omg my power went out for 8 hours the other day & I lost 3 fish I’ve got Ecotech battery back up but it must have ran out of power absolutely guttered
Will this work on the vectra return pumps?
Yep, you just need the Ecotech booster cable (which you'd need for the Ecotech battery too)
Wicked nice one , top channel by the way
would this work with a vecrta s2 return pump?
Yes, you just need the Ecotech booster cable (same thing you need for the Ecotech battery backup)
Isn't this much smaller than the ecotech? Ecotech is 18 Amp-Hour @ 12-volt =216 wh. The linked battery says it is: 27amp hour @ 3.7v (99.9wh), and gives its own wh as 98. So under half the size (for under half the cost). Just saying that the deal isn't that amazing. Something like the ecoflow river with ~288wh is probably more comparable (also cheaper than the ecotech).
I just have an old car battery hooked up to a trickle charger on one side and a basic transfer switch+ DC buck converter on the other so i might not be the target customer.
Yep, that's a fair point - it does have less capacity, but I think 99% of people won't need more capacity.
well I am just going use a server backup power supply.
This is no longer offered in the US it appears…
Amazon
Good choice if you are using EcoTech gear however since this is a Lithium ion battery you need to ensure it is not kept inside humid environments. A short will be very bad! Also if you are using it as the main source of power via the backup power port on EcoTech controllers, the devices will throttle down to backup battery mode and will not run your main program. Perhaps you should mention that.
You know that they won’t stick to the program, for certain?
@@kalamazoo_reefer Yes. If you go into settings you will see that battery backup max speed value is hard set to 50%. Not too bad for emergencies but if you want to run it full time then yes. When I tested with my custom batteries I saw it didn't obey the program and remained constant speed but maybe that is something they have changed now. I will test and let you know.
@@nimal_r Thanks. Curious.
Your audio volume is way too low.
Yeah, I messed up - tried using a different audio recorder and had the mic too far away. It won't happen again!
so i can use this 12v battery to power all my 24v nero pumps?
No, it'll only work with pumps that are 12v or less