Richard you should absolutely share this stuff or risk losing credibility with me and others. Its a natural piece of the motorcycle travel lifestyle. Crap happens, so what, be honest. We have enough bold and white liars in this world today. Please don't join that group. I like your truthful content. Thx
Thank Keith. We will continue to be Honest and show everything we do. It can be hard sometimes (especially Chris) to see the negative comments when we are just being ourselves. Cheers keith and thanks for the words of encouragement.
Yep, my buddy n I were getting ready to ride the white rim trail near Moab 2 days ago n he crashed in sand 10 miles in breaking 3 ribs n prbly n ankle. Killed the trip but its memorable! :) like Jordan Peterson says honesty makes life easier.
@@TwoWheelsBigLife This has got to be one of the most dangerous set ups I have seen. I think the only good thing you have going for you is there is 2 separate vehicles in case of a accident. Logistically asking a motorcycle to stop itself is a task but now a trailer loaded to the weight of another bike? Dang man 😶
I know it sounds simple but please put electric brakes on your trailer … I know they might not exist but you’ll have to figure it out there’s a will there’s a way !! Maybe even inverse hydraulic surge breaks …
Humans helping other humans, no thought of race, creed or social status. Wouldn't the world be incredible if this was how it was all the time.. loved the video..
the prooblem was you needed to apply the rear brake at the top. you used the front brake which locked the front wheel but there was too much weight pulling backwards for the front tire to hold it.
I've been towing a Travelite Camper for almost 25 years now. Never had a problem knock on wood. It was a very steep hill, but you should have been able to stop sliding. By simply applying your rear brake. Thank God you came out Unscathed!!!👍🏼👍🏼
@@monkeybarmonkeyman It would also be just as dangerous down hill trying to stop. More than once I have watched a car pulling a heavy trailer pushed into an intersection by the weight of the trailer. Having brakes on the trailer would help, but not in his situation.
Humanity on display in the UP of Mich, nice to see people still willing to help each other out when in a bad situation. Beautiful place with some great people.
On a hill like that, the only hope to hold the hill is with the rear brake. The weight transfer causes the front wheel to not have enough holding power, even with the brake locked. It is a odd condition, but in that case almost all of your braking power is in the rear wheel. You have to be ready for it and able to hold the bike up with your left foot only. Glad you are ok. And, what a great group of guys that helped you out of that jam.
Hindsight is 20/20, but the trick in a situation like this is to drop the clutch right away (as soon as you feel the front sliding, stall the engine) and let the engine "brake" the rear wheel. This may have been enough to hold the weight of the trailer. Or maybe not... In my experience, this technic is somewhat counter intuitive but it has worked well on steep dirt dirt hills in the many times I've had to use it! Not trying to preach here and I realize it's easier say than done at the moment of panic... Wife and I enjoy your videos every Sunday...
Agree, that would have probably work. That trailer is putting all the weight on the rear tire and lifting on the front. Hill was so steep that the front didn’t have enough traction. Need to be able to use he rear brake or engine brake.
@@jasonhanna2358 Find yourself a hill and practice going backwards using your clutch to control speed. Also, when you stop, practice using your back brake below 10mph. Your front brake is a common reason for dropping any bike at low speed. I've met so many great people because I love motorcycles, and I'm glad it all worked out for you.
There are some wacky opinions being offered in the comments. LOL Too many weird dynamics at work to figure this out without some testing. The tongue weight definitely shifted on that hill, it looked like it put a ton of lift on the back end of the bike, so you're left with front tire only with just a few pounds of weight on it. Nothing as a rider you could do, other than if you had trailer brakes, but even then, the tongue weight is an issue once you want to get moving again. Interesting situation. Maybe somebody will design a trailer where the axle slides backwards when you're on a steep hill, and then returns to normal when the trailer levels out. LOL
Yes. This works. Leaves you with both feet on the ground for stability. Gives you time to get sorted with rear brake, clutch and restarting. Practice pre emergency is key. :-)
Glad you are ok. You must have had an angel on your shoulder to find a group of young men right there and willing to help. Kudos to them and that there was no major damage. Take care, Dave
Oh man, can you imagine if the trailer had kept going straight down the hill, the speed you would have gained and then flipped out. You are one lucky man. I’ve been riding many years and still get into sticky situations cause there is not much support when on two wheels. You get back on and go again. Ride safe! Awesome videos and channel!
Glad you're okay, Rich. For the record - America is full of such folks, regardless of what some would have us believe. I try to be one of those folks as I'm sure y'all do, too - helping each other is what makes the world go 'round. ;>)
Thats a great comment your absolutely right. Don't let political partys tell you we don't get along. Doesn't matter what race you are we all try every day to make it through the day. Only the mega rich don't they pay others to make their mistakes. God bless America and God Bless us all!!
Just remember, how many miles have y’all ridden thus far? And just a snobby hill caught you off guard. All is well. Ride safe and keel sharing your adventures!
If your brakes couldn’t hold it on a hill, how about braking power if you need to do an emergency stop? Nice to see people coming to help, That’s awesome.
No way to apply back brake. Both feet have to be on ground to hold that weight up coming to stop on hill. Front brake could not hold that weight on steep grade.
I would wonder why a bike that big would not have linked brakes? My BMW K1600B has linked brakes, if I grab the front brake lever it applies front and rear brakes at the same time. That would have stopped the bike from rolling.
@@mattmccarthy6815 I only ever put one foot down when stopping with my foot on the brake, but I guess it was how I was taught when I first got my licence. That sounds like a heavy trailer, I only have a small cargo trailer, it does make a difference. Glad he wasn’t hurt
I pull a trailer too, it looked bike and trailer were over loaded, I’ve done it too, I have 2011 road glide, friendly advice is stacking too much weight on motorcycle makes it harder to pick up and goes over easier on its side! I’m sure both of you are accomplished riders! I made the mistake of bringing tools, two spare trailer tires, to many bags of clothes and leather jackets, gas can and water cans both full! I sympathize with you two, I wanna bring too much but have as most as I can possibly bring, I have to laugh now at my own travels up-steep hills on going to Sun hiway, in stop and go traffic on a long hill, made my clutch hand pretty tired! You two are very lucky to see upper Michigan, it’s absolutely beautiful? I wish I could put aKayak on my trailer too! Lol Lol?
This is my favorite episode so far - as I grew up in Calumet, MI. Sorry to see your challenges in Hancock - like the young man said it was better to go straight and around a bend later. The road closed sign is for winter when they can’t keep the snow off the road enough to have it be safe. Nice view of Calumet High School and Middle School! The drive to Copper Harbor is one of the best. Lake Fanny Hooe is a very nice area. The cell service has been an ongoing challenge for a while now. :) Hope you had a chance to go to the Harbor Haus in Copper Harbor - they are outstanding in every way! I lived in the area when we had the record snow fall. :( Soo Locks is a must see - glad you made it there. It is a beautiful area in the late summer early fall. Kudos to the young men who helped out!! Welcome to the UP!
Thanks so much for sharing this. I just stumbled upon the video in my search for ideas to build a bicycle trailer for my 75-pound mixed breed, Skeeter. He and I had been walking to town, a 3-miile hike daily, but at 74, I reached the point where it just got to be too painful. An exhaustive search came up empty in trying to find a commercially-made product to haul with my very first ebike. I'm a Marine, but your story nearly brought a tear to my eye. I'm SO glad that you were blessed with the help to right both the trailer and your bike. Be safe.
If the rear wheel can DRIVE everything up the hill, the rear brake can HOLD everything on the hill. This requires a planned stop; deliberately tipping the bike a little to the left as you stop so you can hold it up with left foot only while the right foot is firmly on the brake. Much easier on a lighter bike. :) Better to practice without trailer or luggage. But if you DO practice, it will become easy.
Holding the rear brake is a tough one when you are trying to keep the bike upright and balanced. Then you have to decide if you can move forward after the stop, especially without stalling or peeling out. Backing down using both brakes would be an equal challange.
@@mitchellfletcher8291 I'd say stopping and holding the bike on the back brake is a very basic skill, cannot get your license in the UK if you cannot do it. And yes, I have ridden heavy bikes with luggage and pillion.
And just to put salt in the wound :-) if you're sliding backwards and can't get to the rear brake (due to lack of planning) you should just release the clutch. Doesn't matter if the bike stalls, at least you won't be rolling backwards down a steep hill.
16:50 "Here's the deal. Here's what we're doing. We don't know what we're doing." I love it. LOL. How long does it take to set up the trailer after unhooking it from the bike? Richard earned those cocktails!!!!
Had a defibrillator implanted Thursday 9/23/21. Your channel has been and continues to be a wonderful companion during recovery. So here’s to many more adventures! Your great👍
Hey Richard, Had a similar incident in the Ozarks. Anyone really riding motorcycles like you guys (not just Sunday morning rides) will have these things happen. At least you’re safe. Live, learn, but never stop enjoying the ride!
Yes, so thankful Richard, Miss Alice and Ruby are good; it could have been so much worse. You were so lucky to have help so quickly - those guys were awesome!! Cheers Richard - you earned those cocktails!!!
I have been riding all my life. Not sure what you actually could have done! Sometimes stuff just happens. Its not that it happens but what you do with the bad situation after it happens. Well done. All is well and you just were shaken a bit. Ride on!
All the weight on the rear he probably should have used the foot break so the rear tire would of held him in place. It’s what I use when stopping on steep inclines.
I watch several motorcycle channels where male and female riders travel the WORLD...and this is the thing I want everyone to know. Most everyday people are GOOD , HELPFUL AND GENEROUS ! The bad narcicisstic people gravitate to the top of money and power . We have a good world...we are just lead by idiots .
I dropped my 85 FLHTC in dirt a few weeks ago out in the forest no help in sight. Was pleasantly surprised I could still lift it at 72. It was on the brake side so I deployed the kick stand and turned my back to the bike and used my legs.
Wow, what a sweet and urgently-needed story illustrating the danger of unknown roads for a no-brakes cargo trailer with GVW -- close to? Over 40% of? -- the pilot vehicle-plus-rider mass! I love your partnership on reasonableness, adventurous learning, and learning-through-failure. The unhesitating helpfulness of your 'muscle' men is inspiring and beautiful to see. Definitely will be working out brakes on the trailer for my follow-behind bicycle auto-response throttle/braking trailer project.
I've always traveled with AAA maps. Seems like the news showers us with so much doom and gloom that we forget how many nice people there are.👍 Glad you're both ok-Ruby needs a rest also💤💤. Things always look better the next day. Another fine video. 😱😱🙋♂️
Glad you shared this and your ok! Seeing this is an eye opener for me. I tow a Aspen Camper with a ABS Goldwing. Aprox weight of my Aspen loaded is 500lbs. Then I realized I have trailer brakes, I won't roll back. Phew!! I recall a stopping on a tall grade with out slide back. Getting rolling again and making the right turn was a challenge. Now if we can't avoid that situation, Momma stops traffic at the top and waves me up to avoid stopping at the top. Trailer brakes are Wonderful. they are adjustable set them and forget them, Safe travels everyone!!
Pleased to see you sharing and that no one was hurt. That’s always the main thing. Also very refreshing to watch the utter helpfulness from the guys. Praise to them. So, to the learning part from you sharing the mishap. Watching the front wheel slip ind slide was no surprise. On that steep hill all weight was transferred to your back wheel. That is pure physics. In most cases hitting the back break would have done the trick. However, if the hill is steep enough, the weight of your trailer might have pulled you into a standstill wheelie. That would have been very interesting….. Anyway, here in Norway driving a lot of twisty mountainpasses, my rule is upphill hold use backbrake, downhill hold use frontbrake. Good to see you safe and have many safe journeys to enjoy. Cheers!
Waitied for a week in anticipation to see that you are alright and did not get hurt. Electric emergency brakes on the trailer if possible? Glad to hear that you are OK!
I feel for you guys. I HATE steep hill stops and fear them always, I learned the hard way too. Now if I see one coming I turn off or go back if I can. San Francisco was especially bad for me. At least you were not hurt, and friends showed up to help. Ah, and Capitan, listen to your co-pilot, she saw it coming.😊😊
Beautiful thing to see so many people willing to help. The small glimpses of hope in our fellow man. You should really consider adding breaks to your trailer.
That looked steep on the Go-Pro, I still wonder how you could walk on it. I think Ms. Alice would have better luck climbing a tree than that hill. Glad it turned out as well as it did and nothing broken.
Thanks UP Michigan guys! You saved the day! A lesson we all seem to have to learn… Listen to your woman! Just kidding Rich! Glad you weren’t hurt. Whisky soothes a bruise ego… Happy Trails….
Well sh1t happens. You are alive and doing well it is part of the adventure. Hey those young men will be tell that story for years to come. Great video!
_These are nice guys who helps. Most people in this world are fine. I also meet nice people when i have trouble with the bike._ _Nice Video of Your journeys, i love them._
I hate when that happens! I have found the NICEST people, always ready to give a helping hand when a bike goes down. I dropped mine a couple of weeks ago, and before I had a chance to get up and look around, I had two burly (the best kind) bikers there to help my boyfriend get it up. And mine only weighs 500 lbs. Part of what keeps my riding, just find the best in people. I have been up and down some steep hills, but not with a trailer. Richard did nothing wrong - on a hill, you've GOT to keep moving.
I’ve had days like this too!! Glad to see that all’s well that ends well. Rest easy, definitely enjoy the cocktails and keep on keepin on!! The trip is worth every experience, good or tough.
Thank goodness all is well after a spooky incident. When I got my bunkhouse friends told "make sure you get brakes on it". I did. Bunkhouse has an awesome disc brake set up. Assuming Ruby doesn't have brakes. Cheers. Having a whiskey with ya.
Ouch. As you say, it is not if something will go bad, but rather when. You guys handled it very well considering how bad it could have been. Glad you both are ok.
Richard got caught off guard and lost his balance when the front brake did not hold. If he could have kept his balance and put his foot on the rear brake, no problem. Things like this happen quickly and catch you off guard.
Late to this video, but wanted to say I like that you shared this learning experience to other riders. And shout out to those young men. The big guy took charge leading his buddies to help others in need which is also an educational moment. A great video and thanks for sharing this.
Yea - don't be so hard on yourself! Others, including myself, would have done the exact same thing. When you're heading up a hill, you're not thinking of a Stop sign, much less what the car in front of you is going to do. And How would you know that your front tire wouldn't grab? Glad you're ok! Had you puckering, right? Haha! 👍😜 🙏
Wow - I can't thank you enough for posting this video. I'm in the midst of planning a "bucket list" trip from Ontario to B.C. (across the rockies & Yup - plenty of HILLS) and was seriously considering buying a small trailer like you have. Now I'm weighing that decision - perhaps motel rooms are cheaper in the long run...certainly less stressful. In any case, thank you from Canada. Cheers.
I'm happy that nothing was damaged and that you didn't get hurt. Add that one to the list of experiences. Trust your gut and listen to your partner. If they have a hesitation, it's worth listening to. Great episode.
Thanks, Edgar! So much for us to learn and unravel - and lots of 'wishes'. Wish we hadn't been separated to begin with, then Chris would have been closer to me and said something long before I had gone past the point of no return.
Glad you got help I know nothing about bikes and towing trailers however would I be correct if I said the trailer is too heavy for the bike. Please let me know
So thankful that both of you are okay. Thank you so much for sharing. We’ve all been there so there’s nothing to be embarrassed about. You guys did great. Huge thank you to those guys who helped you out.
Just a few days ago I was helping my buddy pull his 570lb bike out of ditch with it jammed in gear- I can appreciate your situation a little. You overcame adversity, and we all learned a little something along the way. Thanks for sharing.
Mistakes happen and sharing them with other viewers will only inspire more people to trust your content, as opposed to many other channels where everything and every ride is always trouble free! Well done Rich and glad that you're ok too!! keep it up you two, you're awesome and doing great!! 👍👍!!
So glad you are ok, and had some very caring (and strong) young men to help. I totally get why you would be reluctant to share this, but for a lot of reasons, you HAD TO. This is a valid part of motorcycling- making mistakes. Thank you for sharing yours, to teach the rest of us, or to serve as a reminder.
Sorry y'all had trouble but it made for an exciting show. Gave me warm feelings to see the guys jump in and help. As you said, there are good folks everywhere. Cheers!
What are the odds that just when you need them, a group of kind, strong and willing souls is standing nearby to assist. Things really are better than you would believe if you only watched tv. Good job to those guys.
What an adventure. What a way to make the most out of life. I am sooo jealous and what you guys are doing is in my future in about 13 years when I retire.
Don't beat yourselves up too bad, I'm glad you didn't leave that "mistake" out. this was another excellent adventure! All it shows is that you're human and that this kind of stuff happens probably to every motorcyclist out there! This is what makes me anxious for the next episode just to see this is what really happens in the world of motorcycling travel across this beautiful country!..keep up the good work!
Hindsight is always 20/20! Google maps doesn't provide grade information to my knowledge. What's important is the learning here. Only you know if the rear brake was engaged. Only you know if your skill set was lacking contributing to this roll back. Only you know if now you believe your motorcycle trailer was overloaded. However, what WE know as motorcyclis, - is that your sharing this "less than savory experience" has benefit for us all. It gives pause to think 🤔 and perhaps plan a course of action in case something similar happens to us. For that, I thank you! Safe travels and happy days....
Yes very true. Hindsight it was a good thing I missed the back brake. I’m sure I would have destroyed the clutch going the rest of the way up. Cheers. Glad this is helping others.
Oh my gosh Rich! How scary that was. I know that is not a good feeling going backwards. I am so glad that there were good samaritans around to help you and Chris out.
I know that road - good little shortcut! Front brake was never going to hold you with that heavy trailer. Your assessment of the situation was spot on - glad you got through it, although you will never forget it! We ride up there every year for the fun roads and fall colors. Simply beautiful!
Glad Rich didn’t get hurt. Also, that there was no damage to Miss Alice and Ruby. That is a scary situation. Two weeks ago we took our 7x14 cargo trailer to Helen, GA (because of your channel 😊). Stayed at the Heidi Motel. Had steep driveways. This was our “maiden voyage” a learning experience. Trying to unload the bikes on a incline was not fun. We learned by our mistakes. We enjoyed ourselves riding and eating around Helen for a couple of days. Thanks for that. We were up in Copper Harbor in 2011 beautiful up there. Glad I didn’t come across that hill. Thanks for taking us along.
It is good that you escaped the incident without a scratch !! Well done. If the GS was towing, with its combined brakes, this would not happen. Also, in similar cases, one could stop before the steep part of the junction. Thank you for sharing the story.
I don't think there are any of us who haven't laid the bike down in some awkward situation. I've done it in my own driveway. Keep going, have many happy and safe miles !
You got that right. I've had 10 street bikes over the years and rode a lot of miles. Never dropped one until a couple of years ago, in a Dollar General parking lot of all places. Started to go and cut the wheel before I was moving enough and I felt it going over. Did a couple of reflex stabs of my foot on the ground but it tipped anyway. Horribly embarrassing. A UPS driver helped me stand it up. Dinged my elbow and toes through my boot, just enough to hurt a little. But it hurt my pride something awful.
Having grown up and learned to ride in the San Francisco Bay Area hills can be a challenge and take some technique. Having never pulled a trailer with a bike I'm not going to try and tell you what you should or shouldn't have done. You guys didn't get hurt, all the rest is icing on the cake. I know Ruby has some weight, but possibly unloading would have made it a bit more manageable. (?) Thank you for the video and being man and woman enough to share your mishaps so others can learn. Stay well and healthy. Peace
Richard you should absolutely share this stuff or risk losing credibility with me and others. Its a natural piece of the motorcycle travel lifestyle. Crap happens, so what, be honest. We have enough bold and white liars in this world today. Please don't join that group. I like your truthful content. Thx
Thank Keith. We will continue to be Honest and show everything we do. It can be hard sometimes (especially Chris) to see the negative comments when we are just being ourselves. Cheers keith and thanks for the words of encouragement.
Yep, my buddy n I were getting ready to ride the white rim trail near Moab 2 days ago n he crashed in sand 10 miles in breaking 3 ribs n prbly n ankle. Killed the trip but its memorable! :) like Jordan Peterson says honesty makes life easier.
@@TwoWheelsBigLife This has got to be one of the most dangerous set ups I have seen. I think the only good thing you have going for you is there is 2 separate vehicles in case of a accident. Logistically asking a motorcycle to stop itself is a task but now a trailer loaded to the weight of another bike? Dang man 😶
Transparency is ok. Others will learn from this. At least you didn't trash your bike or yourself. Safe travels to both of you..
I know it sounds simple but please put electric brakes on your trailer … I know they might not exist but you’ll have to figure it out there’s a will there’s a way !!
Maybe even inverse hydraulic surge breaks …
Humans helping other humans, no thought of race, creed or social status. Wouldn't the world be incredible if this was how it was all the time.. loved the video..
Funny things is it really is that way. But are Media and politics would want to think as otherwise
I'm sorry that you perceive this as an exception.
yes it would
Don't tell D.C.
For the most part it is that way where I live in the deep south!
Whoever that big dude was that took charge of the rescue effort thank God for him .
That was a great group of men that helped you. Gives me faith in humanity.
the prooblem was you needed to apply the rear brake at the top. you used the front brake which locked the front wheel but there was too much weight pulling backwards for the front tire to hold it.
I've been towing a Travelite Camper for almost 25 years now. Never had a problem knock on wood. It was a very steep hill, but you should have been able to stop sliding. By simply applying your rear brake. Thank God you came out Unscathed!!!👍🏼👍🏼
Do you ever not have enough power? Seems like a lot of weight for a bike.
I should also think some throttle and light clutch would help too. If not, it might indicate the trailer exceeds the bike's safe capacity.
@@monkeybarmonkeyman It would also be just as dangerous down hill trying to stop. More than once I have watched a car pulling a heavy trailer pushed into an intersection by the weight of the trailer. Having brakes on the trailer would help, but not in his situation.
If you overload your motorcycle rig in our country, the insurance companies won't cover ypu.
This is exactly why I practice and always stop and cover my rear brake when stopping
Humanity on display in the UP of Mich, nice to see people still willing to help each other out when in a bad situation. Beautiful place with some great people.
On a hill like that, the only hope to hold the hill is with the rear brake. The weight transfer causes the front wheel to not have enough holding power, even with the brake locked. It is a odd condition, but in that case almost all of your braking power is in the rear wheel. You have to be ready for it and able to hold the bike up with your left foot only.
Glad you are ok. And, what a great group of guys that helped you out of that jam.
Hindsight is 20/20, but the trick in a situation like this is to drop the clutch right away (as soon as you feel the front sliding, stall the engine) and let the engine "brake" the rear wheel. This may have been enough to hold the weight of the trailer. Or maybe not...
In my experience, this technic is somewhat counter intuitive but it has worked well on steep dirt dirt hills in the many times I've had to use it! Not trying to preach here and I realize it's easier say than done at the moment of panic...
Wife and I enjoy your videos every Sunday...
Agree, that would have probably work. That trailer is putting all the weight on the rear tire and lifting on the front. Hill was so steep that the front didn’t have enough traction. Need to be able to use he rear brake or engine brake.
@@jasonhanna2358 Find yourself a hill and practice going backwards using your clutch to control speed. Also, when you stop, practice using your back brake below 10mph. Your front brake is a common reason for dropping any bike at low speed.
I've met so many great people because I love motorcycles, and I'm glad it all worked out for you.
What about NOT forgetting to just use the rear brake?
There are some wacky opinions being offered in the comments. LOL Too many weird dynamics at work to figure this out without some testing. The tongue weight definitely shifted on that hill, it looked like it put a ton of lift on the back end of the bike, so you're left with front tire only with just a few pounds of weight on it. Nothing as a rider you could do, other than if you had trailer brakes, but even then, the tongue weight is an issue once you want to get moving again. Interesting situation. Maybe somebody will design a trailer where the axle slides backwards when you're on a steep hill, and then returns to normal when the trailer levels out. LOL
Yes. This works. Leaves you with both feet on the ground for stability. Gives you time to get sorted with rear brake, clutch and restarting.
Practice pre emergency is key. :-)
Glad you are ok. You must have had an angel on your shoulder to find a group of young men right there and willing to help. Kudos to them and that there was no major damage. Take care, Dave
Oh man, can you imagine if the trailer had kept going straight down the hill, the speed you would have gained and then flipped out. You are one lucky man. I’ve been riding many years and still get into sticky situations cause there is not much support when on two wheels. You get back on and go again. Ride safe! Awesome videos and channel!
never happen,,,,jackknifing is garanteed off the gidyup.
Glad you're okay, Rich. For the record - America is full of such folks, regardless of what some would have us believe. I try to be one of those folks as I'm sure y'all do, too - helping each other is what makes the world go 'round. ;>)
Thats a great comment your absolutely right. Don't let political partys tell you we don't get along. Doesn't matter what race you are we all try every day to make it through the day. Only the mega rich don't they pay others to make their mistakes. God bless America and God Bless us all!!
@@davemcmahon8140 Amen
Yep. And not just America, all over the world. I’ve seen it first hand-people without much for themselves sacrificing to help others.
I have faith that there are more people like that than there aren’t. Maybe not so much in urban areas but in rural areas, absolutely.
Just remember, how many miles have y’all ridden thus far? And just a snobby hill caught you off guard. All is well. Ride safe and keel sharing your adventures!
If your brakes couldn’t hold it on a hill, how about braking power if you need to do an emergency stop? Nice to see people coming to help,
That’s awesome.
Wow! God bless the guys helping you! They are awesome people.
Sure is nice to see people helping people out in this world !!! It gives me some hope knowing how Blessed we are !!! Glad you weren’t hurt. !!!
Did you have both brakes applied? Dang that hill was steep as hell. Get those young men a 30 pack. It’s always nice to have faith in humanity. 👍
No way to apply back brake. Both feet have to be on ground to hold that weight up coming to stop on hill. Front brake could not hold that weight on steep grade.
I would wonder why a bike that big would not have linked brakes? My BMW K1600B has linked brakes, if I grab the front brake lever it applies front and rear brakes at the same time. That would have stopped the bike from rolling.
@@keithliblick4504 the tourers are crazy heavy and not best balanced. Sometimes not always possible to keep right foot on brake
@@mattmccarthy6815 I only ever put one foot down when stopping with my foot on the brake, but I guess it was how I was taught when I first got my licence.
That sounds like a heavy trailer, I only have a small cargo trailer, it does make a difference. Glad he wasn’t hurt
I pull a trailer too, it looked bike and trailer were over loaded, I’ve done it too, I have 2011 road glide, friendly advice is stacking too much weight on motorcycle makes it harder to pick up and goes over easier on its side! I’m sure both of you are accomplished riders! I made the mistake of bringing tools, two spare trailer tires, to many bags of clothes and leather jackets, gas can and water cans both full! I sympathize with you two, I wanna bring too much but have as most as I can possibly bring, I have to laugh now at my own travels up-steep hills on going to Sun hiway, in stop and go traffic on a long hill, made my clutch hand pretty tired! You two are very lucky to see upper Michigan, it’s absolutely beautiful? I wish I could put aKayak on my trailer too! Lol Lol?
You were lucky to have found each other in this crazy world.. thank you for sharing.
Yes we are
This is my favorite episode so far - as I grew up in Calumet, MI. Sorry to see your challenges in Hancock - like the young man said it was better to go straight and around a bend later. The road closed sign is for winter when they can’t keep the snow off the road enough to have it be safe. Nice view of Calumet High School and Middle School! The drive to Copper Harbor is one of the best. Lake Fanny Hooe is a very nice area. The cell service has been an ongoing challenge for a while now. :) Hope you had a chance to go to the Harbor Haus in Copper Harbor - they are outstanding in every way! I lived in the area when we had the record snow fall. :( Soo Locks is a must see - glad you made it there. It is a beautiful area in the late summer early fall. Kudos to the young men who helped out!! Welcome to the UP!
Thanks so much for sharing this. I just stumbled upon the video in my search for ideas to build a bicycle trailer for my 75-pound mixed breed, Skeeter. He and I had been walking to town, a 3-miile hike daily, but at 74, I reached the point where it just got to be too painful. An exhaustive search came up empty in trying to find a commercially-made product to haul with my very first ebike. I'm a Marine, but your story nearly brought a tear to my eye. I'm SO glad that you were blessed with the help to right both the trailer and your bike. Be safe.
If the rear wheel can DRIVE everything up the hill, the rear brake can HOLD everything on the hill.
This requires a planned stop; deliberately tipping the bike a little to the left as you stop so you can hold it up with left foot only while the right foot is firmly on the brake.
Much easier on a lighter bike. :)
Better to practice without trailer or luggage.
But if you DO practice, it will become easy.
That's how you have to stop in the UK to get your license. Right foot on the brake left foot on the ground.
And yes it does depend on how long you are stopped, if at a red light then you have to swap sides and drop into neutral.
Holding the rear brake is a tough one when you are trying to keep the bike upright and balanced. Then you have to decide if you can move forward after the stop, especially without stalling or peeling out. Backing down using both brakes would be an equal challange.
@@mitchellfletcher8291 I'd say stopping and holding the bike on the back brake is a very basic skill, cannot get your license in the UK if you cannot do it. And yes, I have ridden heavy bikes with luggage and pillion.
And just to put salt in the wound :-) if you're sliding backwards and can't get to the rear brake (due to lack of planning) you should just release the clutch. Doesn't matter if the bike stalls, at least you won't be rolling backwards down a steep hill.
Wow so amazing your not hurt. You didn’t even complain about being sore or achy! It is so nice to see such kind people out there!! Keep on rolling!
That's what the whiskey was for - took care of all aches and pains. lol
16:50 "Here's the deal. Here's what we're doing. We don't know what we're doing." I love it. LOL. How long does it take to set up the trailer after unhooking it from the bike? Richard earned those cocktails!!!!
Had a defibrillator implanted Thursday 9/23/21. Your channel has been and continues to be a wonderful companion during recovery. So here’s to many more adventures! Your great👍
Yous two are great together, Thank you guys for helping Richard and Chris out on that hill , Great team work ,
You guys are still kids at heart. Good to see not everyone losses that with time.
Thanks.
That was stressful but you kept your cool, found some help and got through it! Just another story to tell :-)
Hey Richard, Had a similar incident in the Ozarks. Anyone really riding motorcycles like you guys (not just Sunday morning rides) will have these things happen. At least you’re safe. Live, learn, but never stop enjoying the ride!
Yes, so thankful Richard, Miss Alice and Ruby are good; it could have been so much worse. You were so lucky to have help so quickly - those guys were awesome!! Cheers Richard - you earned those cocktails!!!
Glad you're OK and that nothing was damaged. What an amazing group of men to come up there and help you.
Yes they are!!
I have been riding all my life. Not sure what you actually could have done! Sometimes stuff just happens. Its not that it happens but what you do with the bad situation after it happens. Well done. All is well and you just were shaken a bit. Ride on!
All the weight on the rear he probably should have used the foot break so the rear tire would of held him in place. It’s what I use when stopping on steep inclines.
Never really thought about the hills. Good video, thank you for sharing!
I watch several motorcycle channels where male and female riders travel the WORLD...and this is the thing I want everyone to know. Most everyday people are GOOD , HELPFUL AND GENEROUS ! The bad narcicisstic people gravitate to the top of money and power . We have a good world...we are just lead by idiots .
Murderers
people aren't born bad, they learn from sociopathic leaders that selfishness will get you to the top.
Glad you didn't get hurt. Glad no damages, and glad those guys were there and willing to help!!
I dropped my 85 FLHTC in dirt a few weeks ago out in the forest no help in sight. Was pleasantly surprised I could still lift it at 72. It was on the brake side so I deployed the kick stand and turned my back to the bike and used my legs.
Wow, what a sweet and urgently-needed story illustrating the danger of unknown roads for a no-brakes cargo trailer with GVW -- close to? Over 40% of? -- the pilot vehicle-plus-rider mass! I love your partnership on reasonableness, adventurous learning, and learning-through-failure. The unhesitating helpfulness of your 'muscle' men is inspiring and beautiful to see.
Definitely will be working out brakes on the trailer for my follow-behind bicycle auto-response throttle/braking trailer project.
It was no fun but I'm glad that it has help others. Those gentlemen were awesome also
I've always traveled with AAA maps. Seems like the news showers us with so much doom and gloom that we forget how many nice people there are.👍 Glad you're both ok-Ruby needs a rest also💤💤. Things always look better the next day. Another fine video. 😱😱🙋♂️
Glad you shared this and your ok! Seeing this is an eye opener for me. I tow a Aspen Camper with a ABS Goldwing. Aprox weight of my Aspen loaded is 500lbs. Then I realized I have trailer brakes, I won't roll back. Phew!! I recall a stopping on a tall grade with out slide back. Getting rolling again and making the right turn was a challenge. Now if we can't avoid that situation, Momma stops traffic at the top and waves me up to avoid stopping at the top. Trailer brakes are Wonderful. they are adjustable set them and forget them, Safe travels everyone!!
In georgia my scoot and trailer had to be loaded on a rollback, what fun sliding back ward with very little control! Glad your ok and no big damage!!
Pleased to see you sharing and that no one was hurt. That’s always the main thing. Also very refreshing to watch the utter helpfulness from the guys. Praise to them. So, to the learning part from you sharing the mishap. Watching the front wheel slip ind slide was no surprise. On that steep hill all weight was transferred to your back wheel. That is pure physics. In most cases hitting the back break would have done the trick. However, if the hill is steep enough, the weight of your trailer might have pulled you into a standstill wheelie. That would have been very interesting….. Anyway, here in Norway driving a lot of twisty mountainpasses, my rule is upphill hold use backbrake, downhill hold use frontbrake. Good to see you safe and have many safe journeys to enjoy. Cheers!
Yes for sure. Also if I did stop I think I would have destroyed the clutch trying to get the rest of the way up.
Probably wouldn't have. Our clutches are designed to be abused or heavily used. You'd have been fine. @@TwoWheelsBigLife
Waitied for a week in anticipation to see that you are alright and did not get hurt. Electric emergency brakes on the trailer if possible? Glad to hear that you are OK!
Watch this and carry it forward!!! What a prime example of good hearted people!!
I feel for you guys. I HATE steep hill stops and fear them always, I learned the hard way too. Now if I see one coming I turn off or go back if I can. San Francisco was especially bad for me. At least you were not hurt, and friends showed up to help. Ah, and Capitan, listen to your co-pilot, she saw it coming.😊😊
I loved the hills in San Fran. Of course it was minus a trailer.
Beautiful thing to see so many people willing to help. The small glimpses of hope in our fellow man. You should really consider adding breaks to your trailer.
agreed!!
That looked steep on the Go-Pro, I still wonder how you could walk on it. I think Ms. Alice would have better luck climbing a tree than that hill. Glad it turned out as well as it did and nothing broken.
Realy glad that you showed this event for a multitude reasons. Thank you sharing a valuable experience.
Thanks UP Michigan guys! You saved the day!
A lesson we all seem to have to learn… Listen to your woman! Just kidding Rich! Glad you weren’t hurt. Whisky soothes a bruise ego… Happy Trails….
Awesome people helping
Yes they were awesome.
Well sh1t happens. You are alive and doing well it is part of the adventure.
Hey those young men will be tell that story for years to come.
Great video!
_These are nice guys who helps. Most people in this world are fine. I also meet nice people when i have trouble with the bike._
_Nice Video of Your journeys, i love them._
You don’t want to come to a stop using the brakes on hills. Instead feather your clutch and work against the gravity pulling you down.
everyone does a sudden mistake sometimes. they arent beginners
@@Lloyd-mo my comment was more towards the people questioning his brakes.
Nice to see and hear no significant damage to bike, trailer and Rich. Thanks to the men who took time to help.
Yes, it all ended well and we got to meet some amazing young men.
I hate when that happens! I have found the NICEST people, always ready to give a helping hand when a bike goes down. I dropped mine a couple of weeks ago, and before I had a chance to get up and look around, I had two burly (the best kind) bikers there to help my boyfriend get it up. And mine only weighs 500 lbs. Part of what keeps my riding, just find the best in people. I have been up and down some steep hills, but not with a trailer. Richard did nothing wrong - on a hill, you've GOT to keep moving.
Don’t forget to visit the Gay bar! Located in Gay Michigan, it’s not what you think 🤔 beautiful place and food
hahah i love that place
beautiful place ???? come on now.
Ha we saw we’re going to go to the Gay bar but didn’t make it. Another reason to go back b
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@@TwoWheelsBigLife also try Washington island Wisconsin. They have camp grounds
I’ve had days like this too!! Glad to see that all’s well that ends well. Rest easy, definitely enjoy the cocktails and keep on keepin on!! The trip is worth every experience, good or tough.
Thank goodness all is well after a spooky incident. When I got my bunkhouse friends told "make sure you get brakes on it". I did. Bunkhouse has an awesome disc brake set up. Assuming Ruby doesn't have brakes. Cheers. Having a whiskey with ya.
I love the fact that THIS is what America is really about. Just flat out GREAT people. Its awesome to see this!
Hope you bought those guys a few beers 🍺
Ouch. As you say, it is not if something will go bad, but rather when. You guys handled it very well considering how bad it could have been. Glad you both are ok.
Thanks, Ed!! Expect the unexpected - as we say. Just sometimes we don't want it to hurt so much. lol
Glad no one got hurt and happy there are good people out there. Nice job guys
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Thanks for letting me learn from your mistake! Great community there!!!
Richard got caught off guard and lost his balance when the front brake did not hold. If he could have kept his balance and put his foot on the rear brake, no problem. Things like this happen quickly and catch you off guard.
You are spot on, Jerry!! Just not enough time to get to the rear brake - it all happened so fast.
My goodness, I’m so glad you’re safe. Thanks for sharing the realistic aspects of your travels. We’re learning from you all too.
And your right foot wasn’t on the rear brake. Btw, some of the nicest people in the US live in the Youpee. All’s well that ends well.👍🏻
Late to this video, but wanted to say I like that you shared this learning experience to other riders. And shout out to those young men. The big guy took charge leading his buddies to help others in need which is also an educational moment. A great video and thanks for sharing this.
You’re welcome those guys were awesome. And you are correct that big guy stepped up and took charge. It was all good.
Yea - don't be so hard on yourself! Others, including myself, would have done the exact same thing. When you're heading up a hill, you're not thinking of a Stop sign, much less what the car in front of you is going to do. And How would you know that your front tire wouldn't grab? Glad you're ok!
Had you puckering, right? Haha! 👍😜 🙏
Wow - I can't thank you enough for posting this video. I'm in the midst of planning a "bucket list" trip from Ontario to B.C. (across the rockies & Yup - plenty of HILLS) and was seriously considering buying a small trailer like you have. Now I'm weighing that decision - perhaps motel rooms are cheaper in the long run...certainly less stressful. In any case, thank you from Canada. Cheers.
Would be nice to have at least an emergency brake on the trailer. IF they are available, if not, they should be.
I would carry some plastic wheel chuck ... to move the trailer slowly up or down hill. Muscles are not always available.
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I'm happy that nothing was damaged and that you didn't get hurt. Add that one to the list of experiences. Trust your gut and listen to your partner. If they have a hesitation, it's worth listening to. Great episode.
Thanks, Edgar! So much for us to learn and unravel - and lots of 'wishes'. Wish we hadn't been separated to begin with, then Chris would have been closer to me and said something long before I had gone past the point of no return.
Lake of the clouds is also a beautiful place to visit.. don’t bring Ruby
Kudos too the gentleman in the black shirt. Cool and calculated. Well done brother.
Kudos to the guys that stepped up to help. This just adds a little flavor to the experience
Glad you got help
I know nothing about bikes and towing trailers however would I be correct if I said the trailer is too heavy for the bike. Please let me know
So thankful that both of you are okay. Thank you so much for sharing. We’ve all been there so there’s nothing to be embarrassed about. You guys did great. Huge thank you to those guys who helped you out.
Each video you post is a mini movie covering the stuff we want to watch and learn about. This one had some hero`s & a happy ending.
Keep the truth coming my friend. It's a teaching moment for a lot of us out here.
Thank you, I will
Just a few days ago I was helping my buddy pull his 570lb bike out of ditch with it jammed in gear- I can appreciate your situation a little. You overcame adversity, and we all learned a little something along the way. Thanks for sharing.
Thankngod for the guy's that helped. Thanks for sharing. I'm buying my first camper this week, and you honestly taught me a valuable lesson.
I'm glad you are both ok and no damage to anything..
Mistakes happen and sharing them with other viewers will only inspire more people to trust your content, as opposed to many other channels where everything and every ride is always trouble free! Well done Rich and glad that you're ok too!! keep it up you two, you're awesome and doing great!! 👍👍!!
So glad you are ok, and had some very caring (and strong) young men to help. I totally get why you would be reluctant to share this, but for a lot of reasons, you HAD TO. This is a valid part of motorcycling- making mistakes. Thank you for sharing yours, to teach the rest of us, or to serve as a reminder.
So glad you were not hurt and a great shout out to the guys that helped you !!!
I wondered why such a heavy trailer- until you turned it into a pop up camper. Very cool! Glad you're okay from the spill on the hill!!
Sorry y'all had trouble but it made for an exciting show. Gave me warm feelings to see the guys jump in and help. As you said, there are good folks everywhere. Cheers!
Thanks!! That's what we thought as well. Great group of guys and they acted like it was no big deal - just glad to help out.
What are the odds that just when you need them, a group of kind, strong and willing souls is standing nearby to assist. Things really are better than you would believe if you only watched tv. Good job to those guys.
Yes we were lucky. They were a great of guys.
Great video! The wife and I had some AWESOME rides together, nothing better than being in the zone with someone you love.
What an adventure. What a way to make the most out of life. I am sooo jealous and what you guys are doing is in my future in about 13 years when I retire.
Don't beat yourselves up too bad, I'm glad you didn't leave that "mistake" out. this was another excellent adventure! All it shows is that you're human and that this kind of stuff happens probably to every motorcyclist out there! This is what makes me anxious for the next episode just to see this is what really happens in the world of motorcycling travel across this beautiful country!..keep up the good work!
Hindsight is always 20/20! Google maps doesn't provide grade information to my knowledge.
What's important is the learning here.
Only you know if the rear brake was engaged. Only you know if your skill set was lacking contributing to this roll back. Only you know if now you believe your motorcycle trailer was overloaded.
However, what WE know as motorcyclis, - is that your sharing this "less than savory experience" has benefit for us all. It gives pause to think 🤔 and perhaps plan a course of action in case something similar happens to us. For that, I thank you! Safe travels and happy days....
Yes very true. Hindsight it was a good thing I missed the back brake. I’m sure I would have destroyed the clutch going the rest of the way up. Cheers. Glad this is helping others.
Glad your both OK...that could have turned out really bad. I hope the rest of your stay in Michigan is without further incidents.
Oh my gosh Rich! How scary that was. I know that is not a good feeling going backwards. I am so glad that there were good samaritans around to help you and Chris out.
I know that road - good little shortcut! Front brake was never going to hold you with that heavy trailer. Your assessment of the situation was spot on - glad you got through it, although you will never forget it! We ride up there every year for the fun roads and fall colors. Simply beautiful!
I'm not sure I'd even like to tackle that hill without the trailer, but good for you! I might just need more practice.
I'm glad no one was hurt, It's part of the Adventure !! Thanks for sharing.
Richard, I hate when this happens, but when it does, it sure helps to have such nice guys around the corner.
That’s is for sure great group of men
Thank you guys for helping riders in time of trouble.
Glad Rich didn’t get hurt. Also, that there was no damage to Miss Alice and Ruby. That is a scary situation. Two weeks ago we took our 7x14 cargo trailer to Helen, GA (because of your channel 😊). Stayed at the Heidi Motel. Had steep driveways. This was our “maiden voyage” a learning experience. Trying to unload the bikes on a incline was not fun. We learned by our mistakes. We enjoyed ourselves riding and eating around Helen for a couple of days. Thanks for that. We were up in Copper Harbor in 2011 beautiful up there. Glad I didn’t come across that hill. Thanks for taking us along.
Thank God those guys were there, they were angels sent ro you!
Yup!! And they just treated it like it was no big deal.
It is good that you escaped the incident without a scratch !! Well done. If the GS was towing, with its combined brakes, this would not happen. Also, in similar cases, one could stop before the steep part of the junction. Thank you for sharing the story.
I don't think there are any of us who haven't laid the bike down in some awkward situation. I've done it in my own driveway. Keep going, have many happy and safe miles !
You got that right. I've had 10 street bikes over the years and rode a lot of miles. Never dropped one until a couple of years ago, in a Dollar General parking lot of all places. Started to go and cut the wheel before I was moving enough and I felt it going over. Did a couple of reflex stabs of my foot on the ground but it tipped anyway. Horribly embarrassing. A UPS driver helped me stand it up. Dinged my elbow and toes through my boot, just enough to hurt a little. But it hurt my pride something awful.
Having grown up and learned to ride in the San Francisco Bay Area hills can be a challenge and take some technique. Having never pulled a trailer with a bike I'm not going to try and tell you what you should or shouldn't have done. You guys didn't get hurt, all the rest is icing on the cake. I know Ruby has some weight, but possibly unloading would have made it a bit more manageable. (?) Thank you for the video and being man and woman enough to share your mishaps so others can learn. Stay well and healthy. Peace
Thanks Stan! Not sure if I would want to go around the Bay Area with a trailer either, but it was a good lesson with little pain.