The MYTHICAL Spot of G (Abortion Debate)
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This caller cared reeeeally hard that sex is consent to pregnancy when it's not, but very much did not wanna acknowledge consent is always revokable. Makes me worry about what other consent he doesn't allow to be revoked
while arguing that consent to sex isn't consent to pregnancy a prolife guy told me that getting in a car is consent to a car wreck
@soupsalamamder and that prolife guy is both a dumbass, and, if they're consistent with their logic, evil
I think that, assuming he's heterosexual, a goood way to get him to understand consent is to posit the idea that he consents to sex with Julia, and then Dave walks into the room and starts unzipping because Julia does it like that and caller consented to sex with Julia so he has to go along with what Dave wants to do.
Pretty quickly he'd understand that consent can be revoked at any time.
@@soupsalamamder😮
Worried the caller may take it too far with a partner who consented at first but not after sex begins. Extremely concerning train of thought, hope this man receives help
caller's listening to respond clearly. and i think it's genuinely because he thinks he's right, so if he's right then he must be able to catch you out with logic. it really turns people into pretzels when they try to do that and are just wrong
I think I finally understand why he kept bringing up anesthesia… “if you can’t give ongoing consent while unconscious, then there are instances where only the initial consent matters. Therefore, pregnancy is the same because sex means initial consent to pregnancy.” It’s a non sequitor and consent to sex isn’t consent to pregnancy but at least there’s some kind of attempt at logic…
"Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry?" -some clown
Also, during pregnancy you're not unconscious, so you're able to express your consent or lack thereof. Anesthesia prevents you from revoking consent, and consent is assumed ongoing while freely given and not revoked, so if a woman wants an abortion, she would be revoking her consent.
His initial reason for taking that bodily autonomy away from a subset of the population is extremely poor.
It doesn't matter if a fetus is human. This may be a shock to some people but it's actually not a human right to use someone's body against their will to support your own bodily functions if you're unable to do so on your own. It doesn't matter the circumstances under which one body would be dependent upon another, there is no instance in which a person has the right to use the body of another as life support. I dont care if it's a 2 month old fetus, a 5 year old child, or a 50 year old adult, it's not a human right. That's literally all there is to it.
Thank you. This is what I say when my parents bring up the topic. I grant them whatever they want about the fetus. Fully human, will grow up to cure cancer, idc. Does not have the right to my body, period.
What? You wouldnt sacrifice your comfort to save a life? Not the life of the mother, but the comfort. Pregnancy sucks, but would carrying that out not save a life? Im confused what you mean. I would 100% sacrifice my comfort for the someone elses life because the right to life supercedes my right of comfort. Now if its my life sacrificed for another, its no longer a moral obligation because its life for life. So if the mothers life is at risk, then yes you can abort. But if its just their comfort, than no. Life matters more than comfort, so if that means you need to sacrifice your bodily comfort to save a life then you are obligated to.
@@weeblewwe It's not all temporarily swollen ankles and needing looser clothes. Pregnancy confers _permanent_ changes that can diminish - if not outright ruin - the person's quality of life forever. It is also frequently life-threatening and often fatal.
@@weeblewwe It's funny how the person you're responding to only ever mentioned bodily AUTONOMY, yet you don't mention it once, merely referring to "comfort" as an obvious strawman.
Your bodily autonomy is your right to have complete control over how your organs are used. No one can take away your bone marrow, no one can borrow a piece of your liver, no one can use your kidneys for blood filtration WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT.
And maybe you do give consent. Maybe you donate your blood regularly, and have already given one of your kidneys away to someone who needs it. If so, you deserve a cookie and a pat on the head. Doesn't mean everyone else has to be so generous with the CONTENT OF THEIR BODIES.
dude just learned the words further more and thinks hes a "J"enius
Nature gives some species the ability to abort their pregnancies at will. Why this was something missed in human development, I will never know.
i grew up raising pigs n i say this all the time , we legitimately had to worry if the litter would make it cause we didnt kno if the mama was still cool with the pregnancy 😂 they can absorb it i believe
In all honesty, I believe it’s because evolution blocked this ability from us in order to prevent extinction. Let’s be honest, it that was something women could do, there would be like 8 people on earth now. Women would have cancelled this thing a long time ago because we’ve be done with this bullshit since day 1.
Why did he mention SPECIFICALLY that a human fetus has a human karyotype??? First off wtf does that even mean, second, how the hell does that relate 😂
I honestly think not speaking English as a first language fkd with his argument and the words he used
I wanna ask him if he thinks having sex equates to consenting to an STI
10:59 nature also gave us the ability to have miscarriages, in multiple forms in fact.
Grass actually release a chemical when they are harmed or in danger. It is the smell of cut grass. The smell of cut grass IS their screaming.
While an interesting bit of info, it doesn't point to the grass being sentient. The grass has no awareness that it's releasing those chemicals, it's just a result of natural selection.
@ well if there is a specific response to stimuli, what else do we call sentience? Plants also lean towards the sun as it moves along the sky. The idea that a brain is needed for sentience because we can deal with a microscopic portion of the visual and audio spectrums, while being completely divorced that from the idea that plants have evolved to communicate and make themselves more “bitter tasting” is also evidence that plants can sense stimuli in their environment.
@@emilyelizabeth8654 a plant jas been mimicking plants... even plastic ones...
6:41 also, not really, we don't know how anesthesia works, like literally, it may just be that it stops your brain from registering the pain you're feeling. Also there's accounts of anesthesia failing, we don't know why as, again, we still don't know how it works, and of people feeling all the pain while being under anesthesia.
10:26 i mean yea bro the human feeling of hunger comes from human’s need to eat or risk death but sometimes i ate 10 minutes ago n want a snack
Lmao caller, son, you REALLLLY need to go out and get some experience.
Bro!! This was one hell of a debate
Did u get a new mic or something? LOL I missed one stream ur voice caught me off guard
This is one of your most dangerous callers. I hope any woman that gets near this disgusting troglodyte is safe.
I link the little language barrier may be the reason he didn’t know what the g spot was 😂 either way it’s still hilarious
I'm not sure. I also am from Europe, different country though. G spot is a popular name and concept and I'm sure it sounds similar enough in spanish. I bet he's just uneducated
Can you express why Spanish speaker may mistake this? He clearly was talking about the same thing & very interested what else you think he could be referring to?
Nah. You're being way too kind. It's obvious he just has zero clue
@@Kulascus yeah him being uneducated may be the actual reason. This was just something I threw out there. Like maybe it’s not referred to as the g spot where he’s from or it just doesn’t translate the same. Idk I wasn’t thinking too deep into it
@@FringeHistoryGames I thought he got confused because sometimes certain terms don’t directly translate when speaking in your second language. Personally, I’m a native Igbo speaker. Sometimes I have that issue when I speak the languages I learned later in life. That’s all. Nothing deeper than that
Even with the title, I did not see that ending coming.
I HAVE PERISHED 💀😭😂
quite frankly, we _need_ to return to tradition! a 'baby' isn't alive and human until it is a year old minimum!
He's a young kid this what happens when you are young and follow the conservative media
That caller may as well have just been yelling “I need you to listen! I’m young and Catholic!” The whole time. That’s what that poor dude entire argument was. But church beliefs!
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you've left this comment over 100 times 😭
@soupsalamamder *looking onward to the horizon*
It's what they would've done...
10:58 THERES NO WAY YOU’RE 31😮
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Yo I’m sorry, but as soon as I heard him use “sexual relations” as the term for “having sex with your partner” I knew this man had no clue what he was talking about