mods doesn´t even play yba often and they want yba to be perfect for them ignoring what players think, and another thing is that they have their gangs to help
I think it's impossible to have a "solo sbr" gamemode, because people will always find a way to team up no matter what, even without chat or server selection.
I played solo sbr maybe like 10 times, its hard and easy at the same time,i got heart by solo sbr, you just need to REALLY blend in at last stage and bam
@@jotarokujo_starplatinum5492 yhea but i mean you'll have people who don't know each other still teaming, weirdly enough most teams in sbr don't really seem to be people who know each other, and half the time people just make a team at the start of the game.
That's something you say to people who are no-life Gods at the game, not impotent children who cry when their mod-specs can't carry them against better players.
Worst thing is this change doesn't apply at all to Aerosmith; a stand with a barrage with both longer duration and longer range on top of a quick pilot to catch opponents, making it basically the god of ganking.
I feel like the update should get reverted it made the game much less fun and its not fun at all while your friends dont have time stop stands and youre fighting boxing mih you just cant even deal decent damage to it since it will just run and regen all the damage you did
@@erykando I agree, I’m a big solo Beach Boy player and ever since this update dropped Steel Ball Runs have never been easier. Solo whole groups of people without breaking a sweat cause they just can’t do enough damage
@@hornet3758 in my opinion its easier to survive ganking but its only a bit harder to get ganked since you can just say in vc I'm cancelling then you cancel your barrage and they use a move
I feel like a way to make the anti ganking update work would be to only allow the change to work in main game and casual SBR and leave 2v2s and Comp alone. The reason I say casual is because there is going to be more starters in there and lower lvl players, so disabling ganking might allow players to have a chance at winning and not being ganked. And as for 2v2’s it speaks for it self.
@@steppa6091 I mean spec's in yba make up a large part of your kit in YBA. I don't blame him for losing even when GER was meta because it wont get any boosted damage (hamon), health boosts (boxing/hamon), or anything else to compliment his kit (vampire or pluck).
When the mods are so down bad and dog water that they have to nerf teaming when they have literal mod specs that are 3x better than your average spec or stand
"and then theres the people who think its a solo game 'i have no friends and it lets me play it solo so it must be solo'" is this some kind of personal attack?
@@egostiic4183 With kcr it's a lot harder, it's basically impossible to tell your teammates: "Guys move conveniently out of the range of reality marble so i can trap this dude!" And expect everyone to actually do it
@@poop-ph1gj Nah cuz if you have a team of 3 you could just hold a single button on somebody, take all their hp and they can’t do anything to counter it.
The thing about being outnumbered, you should never EXPECT to win. However, it'd be a damn shame if you didn't give it your all to at least TRY to win.
Mod: hey gimmi mod spec Uzu: ok Mod: I DIED TO BEACH BOY WITH MOD SPEC NERF BEACH BOY THIS IS SO UNFAIR GRRRR Uzu: ok *removes every move except for rod pull* Mod: balanced Edit: 100 likes dang
Its sad that this is legit what would happen, they blame them being dog shit on the stand being broken. You could kill them with standless and they would cry to uzu about it and have him remove m1s and m2s from it.
I remember a long while ago I was able to solo wipe SBR servers with HP Vampire, it's entirely possible to fight a group alone if you know what you're doing. This update is really bad
@@minorcomet282 yea it depends what game/ how good they are actually doing. If they are complete trash or using a boring looking game in the background it won’t be fun to watch.
I agree 100% with you here because it destroyers the point of teaming or helping your friends in gang wars or 2V2 which what makes YBA so enjoyable, if Uzu see's this please for the love of God remove this feature.
Then name the game your social adventure instead holy shit. I go to sbr stage 4. If you dont speak people will kill you thats how the game works. Another situation you are standing in a crowd and get beatdowned. After the bd ends you have a 60% chance to get teamed on by the whole crowd, a 39% chance that the crowd will kill the sptw and a 1% chance to continue this random attack 1v1. Im only trying to play for fun its not like I need items
I’ve always appreciated having eclipse as a voice because you’re a smart and rational thinker for the game that the devs actually listen to. Thanks for the help as always eclipse.
for me, i NEVER play sbr with other people. 95% of the time (not exaggerating btw) i play by myself. but i completely agree that sbr is a team based game, and i agree that this change should be reverted. its clearly a team based game. i like the challenge aspect of it.
As for me i try to take my friends with me but sometimes i try to solo it on the low i be playing passive aggressive usually. Usually i try to keep a low profile but i’ll try to solo wipe someone if i see them alone in an attempt to thin the numbers without getting jumped
i have friends but teaming still shouldnt be a free win. i have my friends help me with teamers but teaming in itself is still an issue. you shouldnt. be able to 3v1 a really skilled player for killing you (while youre garbage) and win. if you call your friends, theyll call a discord server and have a 2 hr fight. you shouldnt be able to beat teamers solo, but teaming overall shouldnt exist in the first place. so actually, it is a *great* update. my favorite update so far.
@@aadurite idek man, like in EVERY situation, in every game, every irl situation, if Ur against 3 ppl alone, Ur not supposed to win, why is Yba different?
*Another banger from Eclipse! Talks about origins of the video, and then makes funny content for the rest of the video. If I hadn’t subbed at 5k, damn I would be now!*
In my opinion there should be a vote before the game starts, the vote being something on the lines of : Barrage intervention enabled, Barrage intervention enabled. This lets the server choose, and should have barrage intervention enabled in 2v2’s. By barrage interventions I mean people can damage you when your in a barrage with another person.
Even if they did do a solo mode for sbr, there's people on that one rock that go there to team up, so there would still be teams even if it's meant for solo
I remember I was doing sbr for spin by myself and found a gang of 9 people at the last stage, they all were using diavolo hair... It was a horrible experience.
Being barraged by two or more people is hella annoying, but I don't think they should dissolve the idea completely. Personally, I think they should make it when being attacked by more than 1 person, DPS is reduced and maybe even damage in general, this would also make sense because in reality, there are limits to where a person can punch. The thing I think they should keep is the comb potential between many people (eg, person one does barrage, after completion of the barrage, person 2 does barrage, and etc). This is a team-like game and it would only make sense if this feature were to exist. Apart from these specific ideas, nothing else comes to mind. Ohh and the first idea may be a stretch idk.
As a Mr. President main, this Change almost completely gutted the stand. Mr. President was only effective in teamplay, which it now lacks entirely. Currently there is no reason to play this stand while alternatives such as 6p or CD exist. Beyond upsetting.
@@ana74674 Mr President as a stand is incredibly two-dimensional. It is incredibly easy to use. Using it well however, is a whole different task. The effectiveness of Mr President HEAVILY revolves around the game experience/skill level of the person using the stand, as well as the incompetence of the enemy. To get any sort of damage you are essentially FORCED to get a block break or a parry to get a guaranteed kidnap. It's not so much mechanical skill (such as pluck etc.) as it is game knowledge and positioning.
Not trying to start something here, but, Eclipse, teaming has been a major problem in the game for a long time, not being able to be double barraged is a very good change, most kids who don't have any skill will use the quantity over quality solution and take entire wins away from deserving people, this change has helped so many players who are on their own, and not everyone playing SBR are in a discord call with their 5 pals. I personally saw myself making it much farther when being ganked(not saying im some superficial god at the game) and I was even able to beat some of the teamers, allowing me to progress further, the change basically stopped people from clicking the leave button the moment they notice that they're being teamed. It's not about "skill issues." It's just the way YBA works, and before this update, stuff way was worse in SBRs. I don't expect to win 3v1s, but I hope to deserve a chance, which I was given, and I'm sure most of all solo players were. I don't personally agree with your opinion of how the update has changed pvp. Realistically, YBA is 90% dumb kids who wanna team people only to satisfy their own lust to spam ez. I think it's good that they gave solo players a better chance and ganking is no longer just a braindead barrage fest, when you team on others, you need to actually work in better sync. I also disagree with the "get some friends" point. I get where you're coming from, but getting pals isn't a fix to unbalanced ganking, at all. "Changing the whole system" makes it better for everyone and not just people who have the luxury to call friends into SBRs. That's just what I think anyway, no offense.
ECLIPSE I LIKE YOUR YBA AND BATTLEFIELD vid :) I like how you are soo holesome you should try to get a star code ;) btw I agree with that thing that happened in this vid
Eclipse putting this stuff on a plate for uzu and the mods and they still manage to somehow make the game even worse. These mods abusing mod specs and that one time they lose cause of people either being forced to team on them or they actually use skill to beat their broken specs they complain about "ganking" or "too OP stand, nerf it". Uzu should just remove mod specs in general to teach mods how to actually play the game.
So true the pika pika (teleporting) mod spec lets them get out of any stun which is so op, especially in sbr and buffs their damage. They can also move stack with it i believe
Eclipse: no matter what game you play if you think you should be able to beat 3+ people at the same time your own drugs. Dream:I’m I a fucking joke to you ?
Also a Bonus to the course: Try to get the Enemies into a situation where your Stand is better than their Stands. Example: if you play against a group of ranged Stands, try to get close to them.
It's because "someone" got ganged and this "someone" told Uzu to make it so ganging doesn't exist but "someone" forgot that 2v2s and sbr will get fucked by that update.
The mod literally say in the update "if you need to team in sbr to win then you don't deserve to win" you don't even need to know anything about the steel ball run manga to know how wrong that is almost everything in steel ball run is about teams and helping each other
just wanted to say that a great way to make SBR not so ganky is simply adding a random server SBR gamemode where you cant server select meaning you can't make massive coordinated teams. then solo SBR can be its own gamemode.
I've been playing a lot of SBR and I haven't noticed it much despite usually teaming with randoms. Maybe it's because I use D4C Hamon and haha clone spam + gun go brrrt. But tbh it's pretty buggy usually and I can easily still hit my victim clones and gun on two people barraging. And I've seen lots of dual barrages go off. Maybe I just don't notice though.
@@loupitongo9136 I like to think in decent. I just prefer to play a passive support role. I usually stay in the back and only step in when necessary Mostly because I don't have LT since I can't get a heart
But one thing is that if someone is barraging someone that isn’t barraging back, the barrager can still be hit by other things, so you just need more coordination from your teammate for them to stop barraging
12:03 u could win if u have a ts stand and they don't have ts resist OR if u had killer queen bites the dust, D4C (both forms) and twau explosion stands = instant win against teamers
The thing that angers me and make me look down on mods more is that they said they watched the video and give reasons why they think they're still right. Then they give their reasons as to why they think the update is justified when there are specific points in the video where Eclipse literally explained already why they're wrong. Maybe they saw the video but they just skipped everything and didn't understand or maybe they just don't really know how cooperation works and they want it out of the game so that they don't have to figure out how it does.
Guilty gear does a great thing called the developer back yard where the devs will take questions from fans about the game and talk about the changes they’re making before they make it and will talk about their intent with the changes so if they do something like that I feel as tho this sort of thing wouldn’t be as likely to happen as they would have to think about the change a lot more and communicate that with their fans.
@@UrticantOdin that’s fair; however I still believe them picking and choosing questions to answer and at least some transparency into their thought process is better than nothing. But if all they end up doing with it is answer dumb nothing questions like “was that CD-R!?!” Then ya the whole thing would be kinda mute.
Mr pres is also useless for the user using it since the heal love is basically useless and it could decide whether you win or not since in sbr, 1v1s, and 2v2s it kick you out when the exit pops up but for the user it kicks you out in less than 3-5 seconds
It's a pretty bad update but I gotta say that it helped me dealing with teamers, but then my friend came to help me so I saw the problems. Edit: nvm what eclipse did is what happened tbh and it didn't help cuz my friend couldn't kidnap someone barraging me.
this is why I watch Eclipse he have strong arguments even if its an opinion he makes it sound like a fact and I agree on those facts, some stuff dose not need nerfs or someway of making it bad there are other solutions that makes teaming not that affective for example teaming I could just team with my friends to fight teamers easy right
I still cant get over the fact that they made twoh reality overwriting punch cancelable like bruh. Twoh IS MEANT to be broken so why the hell would yall nerf it??? The dev team is absolutley terrible.
Tbh at this point if a dev loses, they.end up complaining and ut gets nerfed. Like there are so many stands that need balancing and they do some weird.stuff most of the time. We arent the devs so all we can do is make noise and watch tbh.
What's funny is that I said most of the stuff eclipse said in this video to paragon when he was doing the polls and he basically said that SBR is a solo mode and that he thinks teaming on people doesn't require skill (it's not meant to require it). He also denied that gangs were created to make modes like SBR team battles lol.
Yba is a game adaptation of the anime JoJo’s bizarre adventure, everyone can agree on that right? In JoJo characters can win against the odds if they play it smart and use the things around them, in yba’s case the same applies, if you play it smart and use things to your advantage you can also win. Teaming is one of those things you can use to your advantage, and just like in jojo it can improves your odds of survival or decrease them if you’re playing with stands that aren’t great for teamwork. And as much as it sucks to get teamed on, you always feel great if you manage to win. And the same goes for the other way around, sometimes you need more people to defeat an enemy. What was my point? Idk, I kinda forgot halfway through writing this.
There are more important things to fix like the many horse bugs in sbr, people being falsely banned (although i haven’t heard this one happening in a while) and more things i can’t think of (excuse my bad english, i am not a native english speaker)
Mods: Have OP stands so they aren’t inevitably ganged up on by literally the entire server The server, fully aware they’re going to gang on the mods anyways: That’s cheating bro
Like the "fix" didn't do anything really, like people still team and gank its just harder to do and you end up still dying anyway cuz they can still barrage you as their teammates surround you preparing to attack.
i honestly think the way they should anti gang is this: the more people attaack you the less damage you take and deal out slightly more damage per each person if over 4 people attack you within 10 seconds then you gain knockdown resistence (knockback still applies but you dont get ragdolled) this way team combos still exist but give the user a chance to actually escape but also remove that chance if everything is calculated within a vc
Eclipse: In almost any game you can play, fighting 3 enemies by yourself, there is a very very good chance that you will lose Doom Eternal Players: *Loads shotgun with malicious intent* ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
@@imtiazbonny7562 it has the best thing that TWOH have, 9 secs ts, but there's a plus, the rage no longer drains in ts, and the rage dmg buff applies in ts
i wish they'd change how the sbr lobby would work, like you should be able to invite a friend and its random, the amount of 8-12 people teams i see is more than 2 man teams
Eclipse can you please continue the footage of your last battles if you dont finish them and after your outro there’s a clip of you fighting the player because it is very entertaining and that’s 30% of the reason of why I watch these type of videos
I wanna counter claim the “how to counter teamers” part with the short clip. Players don’t play like AI, it is very unpredictable when they are going to barrage and teamers don’t always use barrages to catch people. There is a wide verity of things people can do to essentially catch the solo player instead of barraging. So the whole “I can just block and dash out of a barrage is counter play” doesn’t really show that the barrage change was not needed.
Cap people really undermine the fact that the barrage are usually a stand's highest total damage move doing roughly 50-40 damage depending on if a person has defense or not, a single double is basically the same as getting hit by a sptw bd
@@destarker1340 that’s not my point. I’m talking about teaming. Even if a barrage did 0 dmg it would still be good because it would still help their team mates do damage to the solo player that are fighting. If you ever experienced the overpowered barrages back then, 3 people could all barrage the same person and they would be dead because there was nothing to prevent ganking.
@@angry9257 I can definitely say barrages were allow more powerful back then when m1 did actually stun but I don't think 3 people could barrage at the same time and that will kill a person cause I remember health and Regen being alot higher but I guess most people don't actually upgrade those
I have a refound for sbr there are 4 team of 4 you start in one of them and if you have gang you are in the same team and you can't attack your team mate and to open the last stage you need only one team steel alive but when his open the team was disvolve and the last run was a solo run where you can kill your old team mate.this change can make happy the solo player and can also delet the lot of craked stand like mih because when your team mate see you have a stand who have a lot of chance to win the bridge run they can let you in 1 vs 4.
Well there are still other kinds of barrage that allow ganking like the arrow barrage, the boxing barrage, the sunlight yellow overdrive, the kick barrage, the vola barrage and the 6 pistols G move( I don't remember it's name) . I mean those are not few. Also when only one person barrage you can damage them so if they barrage back and they are stupid enough to not back up and run away, they will get a ridiculous amount of damage. Anyways I didn't like the change from the start so🤝
0:43 no disrespect eclipse love your videos but I think me and you both know this issue in society has been going on a lot, lot longer than just recently 😭😂
1:05 Something like this always happens with the first move being a stun move on an npc that hasn't been attacked yet. Since I got Za Hando and Boxing, I thought I could start a combo on Joe P3 with the first move being Eye Gouge. Now, people would think that he actually got stunned and I successfully did the combo. So, whoever thought that... *..you thought wrong.* The one thing I think should be fixed is that the stun should actually work. While it does slow down the npc, but it doesn't stop them from barraging. At this point, I'm starting to think that Uzu might as well just rework the entire game. Not to mention, it's been longer than 5 months and Uzu couldn't release the free spec storage, yet he can release an entirely new stand, not just a rework, but a whole. new. stand. That stand being, Red Hot Chili Peppers, is not only a bit of a garbage stand, but if it took you a month to make a whole new stand, I'm estimating that it could take at most a couple days to release the free spec storage. Uzu is just teasing us and I don't wanna spend 1000 robux just to be able to get Hamon.
In my opinion, SBR is a team game with a solo hard mode. You team up but you theoretically could do it alone but doing that means you choose hard mode in which you will most likely die.
I think a way to fix this update would be to make a way that if your teamed with somebody, like sbr or 2v2s, you can use. A barrage on somebody and then your team mate can use moves on them. And if your not officially teamed with somebody (i.e. not in a team where the game allows you to team) your moves don’t do damage to people in a barrage.
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There’s is also a new method with the change. Two Cd’s can barrage each other in heal mode. And won’t be able to be interrupted.
yea its honestly annoying in sbr I suggest they disable it in sbr I’ve had 2 cd’s heal themselves and then one of the cd stole my win
@@flaminfoe9156 I also had CD when that happened, then I caught them in the mountain and used rock trap and they died.
@@breakdudee happened on 2v2’s to me, I time stopped and they both quit instantly.
Yeah but you can just run into their barrage and heal yourself.
@@2lwky that's like trying to justify the fact that kcr can pose during reality marble because the victim to rm can pose too
Mods caused this, they didnt want to get ganked in main game.
Come on, you have mod specs. Its MAIN GAME.
lol if you dont want to get ganked maybe get rid of big red username saying "The boss" so people wouldnt even notice you.
that's true
mods doesn´t even play yba often and they want yba to be perfect for them ignoring what players think, and another thing is that they have their gangs to help
@@swolzer they don’t wanna because they think it makes them look “cool” and gives them a “superior” feeling
If they do play they either ban or remove progress of ppl if they lose
I think it's impossible to have a "solo sbr" gamemode, because people will always find a way to team up no matter what, even without chat or server selection.
Maybe make a reward for each player kill ? That could make them gang up on eachother
@@goldiful9439 or like get a certain amount of kills for a random corpse part, that would be amazing
I played solo sbr maybe like 10 times, its hard and easy at the same time,i got heart by solo sbr, you just need to REALLY blend in at last stage and bam
They'd have to be lucky to get the same server though . Unless they hacked , or spent several hours rolling servers , I think it'll be fine .
@@jotarokujo_starplatinum5492 yhea but i mean you'll have people who don't know each other still teaming, weirdly enough most teams in sbr don't really seem to be people who know each other, and half the time people just make a team at the start of the game.
Eclipse tells yba mods to touch grass for 17 minutes and 24 seconds
That's something you say to people who are no-life Gods at the game, not impotent children who cry when their mod-specs can't carry them against better players.
@@bradleygalo4775 specs are expensive, and they haven't implemented free spec storage
brub
@@Centzaurion what
@@ptjhnsn today, we are going to snort the biggest line of blunts of all time
what if they have covid or other dangerous diseases?
Imagine teaming in 2v2 smh
bro ima ban you for teaming in 2v2 now.
We need to get this to top comment so if eclipse opens up the comments this is the first thing he sees
@@imadethis2442 yes
Imagine Rking in 1v1s smh
@@imadethis2442 i already got another comment with 139 likes on this video so that will prob be 1st lol
Worst thing is this change doesn't apply at all to Aerosmith; a stand with a barrage with both longer duration and longer range on top of a quick pilot to catch opponents, making it basically the god of ganking.
Only punch barrages are affected. Aerosmith, 6P, SCR, and any other stand with abilities that last a while to not have this change
I feel like the update should get reverted it made the game much less fun and its not fun at all while your friends dont have time stop stands and youre fighting boxing mih you just cant even deal decent damage to it since it will just run and regen all the damage you did
@@erykando I agree, I’m a big solo Beach Boy player and ever since this update dropped Steel Ball Runs have never been easier. Solo whole groups of people without breaking a sweat cause they just can’t do enough damage
@@hornet3758 steel ball run was hard before, and its harder now, i've never won sbr
@@hornet3758 in my opinion its easier to survive ganking but its only a bit harder to get ganked since you can just say in vc I'm cancelling then you cancel your barrage and they use a move
I feel like a way to make the anti ganking update work would be to only allow the change to work in main game and casual SBR and leave 2v2s and Comp alone. The reason I say casual is because there is going to be more starters in there and lower lvl players, so disabling ganking might allow players to have a chance at winning and not being ganked. And as for 2v2’s it speaks for it self.
From what I see the anti ganker seems to only be a two dudes can't fist barrage another dude at the same time type of deal
I agree
i think competetive need the change not casual
@@destarker1340 I saw it as in a middle of a a fight 2 cd barrage heal each other to full health can't stop them
@@CaptainMur Yeah honestly
Paragon uses "your own shadow to himself"
Is he dumb or something?
He's like: mod spec against team goes brr
The mods just hate admitting that they suck even with specs :p
I actually beat paragon in 1v1s a few months ago he was using specless ger and lost 💀 (ger was still meta at the time)
@@steppa6091 I mean spec's in yba make up a large part of your kit in YBA. I don't blame him for losing even when GER was meta because it wont get any boosted damage (hamon), health boosts (boxing/hamon), or anything else to compliment his kit (vampire or pluck).
@@steppa6091 At least he’s playing fair
@@y100900185 plays fair but still proves hes bad at the game without mod specs
When the mods are so down bad and dog water that they have to nerf teaming when they have literal mod specs that are 3x better than your average spec or stand
why is 'dog water' an insult? it doesnt even make sense
@@ronnietheram i think it means ether water which a dog already drank from or dog piss
@@paulpilapil4024 people today amuse me, really... i don't know why they thought of such a strange insult
@@paulpilapil4024 or just a more "Roblox Friendly" "Dog Shit"
@@ronnietheram its just a more family friendly dog shit so roblox doesn't censor it B)
Fun fact, king crimson impale is an AOE move, yes it damages people NEAR the impaled guy
guess that makes every move in the game aoe. Because every move in the game can damage people nearby.
i read the first half and i thought kc gonna clone itself lol
Happened to me when i used kc, it damages other ppl only a little bit tho
bro you dont understand its because the impaled guy's innards shoot out at immense speed and hit anything around them, dealing damage
@@meegulltheseagull bruh what's wrong with you?
Just use Aerosmith, it somehow doesn't count as a Stand Barrage 💀
Same as Kick Barrage, Arrow Barrage, Enraged Fury and Redirection Barrage
repeat the first 3 words of that sentence and tell me that it solves the issue with any truth in your word
Heirophant green being the obvious better option
@@jip0611 lololololollolol
Are you rusk?
eclipse gotta be a mod for yba bugs bruh literally doing their job for them
No
@@ties_s Yes
He already appeases us with these videos, don't give him more work (although I think he would be good in the role)
He does give good tips for updates to upgrade yba, but being a mod, thats not a thing that is gonna happen
@@ties_s yo
Eclipse: if your fighting more than 3 people you can’t win
Gage: yeah you can’t cause you have to fight 13 players at once to win
Gage does exactly what eclipse said in older videos, he annoys the teamers and kills one by one, that's what makes him so good, skill aside.
@@moemenelafandi man gage learn from eclipse and i learn from gage?
(Chain)
@@honmon5578 no one wanted to continue your chain lmfaooooo
"and then theres the people who think its a solo game 'i have no friends and it lets me play it solo so it must be solo'" is this some kind of personal attack?
it was true,but he didn’t have to hurt my feelings like that
he’s just speaking the truth
Yep
Lmao same
i mean, yeah. Not going outside doesn’t make the game a solo game.
2v2s just became 1v1s but there’s other people now after this upd
Always what it was because my tm switches stands every hour
2v2 is now 1v1 with 3 lives
Hello Eclipse, vola barrage isnt considered a barrage in the code so its good for teaming now
same for 6ps.
I am doing team modes with 6p, since it's retatded.
6p,Mr,Hp,Kcr and cd are all now a lot better because they dont need barrage to lock people in place
@@egostiic4183 pretty sure you cant do that with crazy diamond
@@whenjune rock trap
@@egostiic4183 With kcr it's a lot harder, it's basically impossible to tell your teammates: "Guys move conveniently out of the range of reality marble so i can trap this dude!" And expect everyone to actually do it
well now I can do the shit move of barraging my friend so that he doesn't get dmg, he can also barrage back
it only works if you’re both barraging each other
There should be double barraging how old yba used to be, silver chariot and star platinum did double barrage against alessi
@@poop-ph1gj no
@@poop-ph1gj Nah cuz if you have a team of 3 you could just hold a single button on somebody, take all their hp and they can’t do anything to counter it.
@@What-eo1jm rtz
The thing about being outnumbered, you should never EXPECT to win. However, it'd be a damn shame if you didn't give it your all to at least TRY to win.
Mod: hey gimmi mod spec
Uzu: ok
Mod: I DIED TO BEACH BOY WITH MOD SPEC NERF BEACH BOY THIS IS SO UNFAIR GRRRR
Uzu: ok
*removes every move except for rod pull*
Mod: balanced
Edit: 100 likes dang
Its sad that this is legit what would happen, they blame them being dog shit on the stand being broken. You could kill them with standless and they would cry to uzu about it and have him remove m1s and m2s from it.
Rod pull is the moat annoying move imo especially troller who did that when a gang war happened
hermit purple hamon balanced one-shot combo: *exists*
mods: i sleep
*twoh having legit one single move that cant be cancelled*
mods: REAL SHIT
@@mitchytheg0d hold e and f
Block grapple/parry it block the vines that go to trap you and barrage.
@@mitchytheg0d yeah it's basically beach boy 2.0 + MR
The best line in this video in my opinion is that we shouldn't allow people with overpowered mod specs make balance decisions
I remember a long while ago I was able to solo wipe SBR servers with HP Vampire, it's entirely possible to fight a group alone if you know what you're doing. This update is really bad
Ngl watching eclipse use scr in the background is just so satisfying and fun to watch while we listen
yeah. there's always something so satisfying about background footage to me.
@@minorcomet282 yea it depends what game/ how good they are actually doing. If they are complete trash or using a boring looking game in the background it won’t be fun to watch.
@@What-eo1jm i feel like my favorite type of background footage is when the player in background is seamlessly beating whatever game they're playing
I agree 100% with you here because it destroyers the point of teaming or helping your friends in gang wars or 2V2 which what makes YBA so enjoyable, if Uzu see's this please for the love of God remove this feature.
Then name the game your social adventure instead holy shit. I go to sbr stage 4. If you dont speak people will kill you thats how the game works. Another situation you are standing in a crowd and get beatdowned. After the bd ends you have a 60% chance to get teamed on by the whole crowd, a 39% chance that the crowd will kill the sptw
and a 1% chance to continue this random attack 1v1. Im only trying to play for fun its not like I need items
@@ehwouldntuagree8442 the game is multiplayer, people have friends, its simple.
I’ve always appreciated having eclipse as a voice because you’re a smart and rational thinker for the game that the devs actually listen to. Thanks for the help as always eclipse.
for me, i NEVER play sbr with other people. 95% of the time (not exaggerating btw) i play by myself. but i completely agree that sbr is a team based game, and i agree that this change should be reverted. its clearly a team based game. i like the challenge aspect of it.
Yeah, I do that too, hello my fellow masochist
Yea I rarely team in sbr I just blend in the crowd of ppl and try not to die
i do this as well but i try to convince my enemies not to kill me i am not skilled in combat so fighting anyone is impossible
I've won sbr like 9 times and keep getting the arm and I get sad
As for me i try to take my friends with me but sometimes i try to solo it on the low i be playing passive aggressive usually. Usually i try to keep a low profile but i’ll try to solo wipe someone if i see them alone in an attempt to thin the numbers without getting jumped
eclipse when having 5 people on your team doesnt make you instantly beat a person:
It used to, but now it doesn't
it should?
the update just makes it take longer
Eclipse's guide to being ganked: If it's more than 2 players, alt f4, that's how it should be
Every sbr server be like:
1v7
i defeated 5 people teaming on me and one other friend, we rocked their shit
Eclipse guide part 2: Get friends
Go to joe part 6
Thing is, you can still team in sbr and 2v2s without barraging and getting a true combo. It’s just harder but still makes sense
responses gonna be like "Well i shouldn't have to make friends to beat teamers and it's unfair that you say that." honestly, yba joes make me mad
i have friends but teaming still shouldnt be a free win. i have my friends help me with teamers but teaming in itself is still an issue. you shouldnt. be able to 3v1 a really skilled player for killing you (while youre garbage) and win. if you call your friends, theyll call a discord server and have a 2 hr fight. you shouldnt be able to beat teamers solo, but teaming overall shouldnt exist in the first place. so actually, it is a *great* update. my favorite update so far.
@@aadurite did you watch the whole video? you shouldn't be able to win a 3v1
@@aadurite idek man, like in EVERY situation, in every game, every irl situation, if Ur against 3 ppl alone, Ur not supposed to win, why is Yba different?
@@gogetaeatsababy4207 being forced into a 3v1 isn't necessary good ethier
yba players when they resort to teaming to win
Teaming in sbr is annoying brih, ppl who team will still win so its fair it stays in there
*Another banger from Eclipse! Talks about origins of the video, and then makes funny content for the rest of the video. If I hadn’t subbed at 5k, damn I would be now!*
Lmao
What if. Just hear me out. 2 Crazy Diamonds on heal mode bail out each other by barraging each other.
Would that work?
yeah, and they can stand jump away lol
Inmortal lol
SOMEBODY GIVE THIS GUY A REWARD
Ts stands: *Oh i don't think so*
I thought about this too but it's bad in gang war because people watching can walk into the barrage and get healed
In my opinion there should be a vote before the game starts, the vote being something on the lines of : Barrage intervention enabled, Barrage intervention enabled. This lets the server choose, and should have barrage intervention enabled in 2v2’s. By barrage interventions I mean people can damage you when your in a barrage with another person.
Imagine If like someone was tryna use a ultimate on someone but he tells his friend with a 0.6 dmg barrage tell help him I frame it
*misses beatdown*
**Lough in cw**
Even if they did do a solo mode for sbr, there's people on that one rock that go there to team up, so there would still be teams even if it's meant for solo
3v1 scenario: i kill 2 the last one kills me
the 3rd guy: ez
Ez
Ez
Ez
I remember I was doing sbr for spin by myself and found a gang of 9 people at the last stage, they all were using diavolo hair... It was a horrible experience.
They were all probably using diavolo hair to know who is in their team.
Being barraged by two or more people is hella annoying, but I don't think they should dissolve the idea completely. Personally, I think they should make it when being attacked by more than 1 person, DPS is reduced and maybe even damage in general, this would also make sense because in reality, there are limits to where a person can punch. The thing I think they should keep is the comb potential between many people (eg, person one does barrage, after completion of the barrage, person 2 does barrage, and etc). This is a team-like game and it would only make sense if this feature were to exist. Apart from these specific ideas, nothing else comes to mind. Ohh and the first idea may be a stretch idk.
As a Mr. President main, this Change almost completely gutted the stand. Mr. President was only effective in teamplay, which it now lacks entirely. Currently there is no reason to play this stand while alternatives such as 6p or CD exist. Beyond upsetting.
Bruh does that mean mr pres main need to have godly timing and precision and run when it's only useful move on cooldown? Seems pretty balanced to me
@@ana74674 Mr President as a stand is incredibly two-dimensional. It is incredibly easy to use. Using it well however, is a whole different task. The effectiveness of Mr President HEAVILY revolves around the game experience/skill level of the person using the stand, as well as the incompetence of the enemy. To get any sort of damage you are essentially FORCED to get a block break or a parry to get a guaranteed kidnap. It's not so much mechanical skill (such as pluck etc.) as it is game knowledge and positioning.
@@jameselling5402 but sadly most people know that and they actually just either barrage or a move that prevent you from getting close and pb
@@jameselling5402 Fortunately for you, sbr is a laggy mess, most players sucks and Kidnap parry window is obnoxious.
Eclipse could literally replace paragon. Uzu pls hire him.
fun fact: you can still damage someone if they arent barraging back to someone else
eclipse can't have one wrong opinion and it's scary
Say that to his first hp stand review video
@@adfains8046 Lel
Yea he can have wrong opinions buddy he ain't an alien
@@cold_face7798 This a Fanboy lol
@@heavygaming7842 youre one to talk, hes a dev try be in his boots if you were him
Not trying to start something here, but, Eclipse, teaming has been a major problem in the game for a long time, not being able to be double barraged is a very good change, most kids who don't have any skill will use the quantity over quality solution and take entire wins away from deserving people, this change has helped so many players who are on their own, and not everyone playing SBR are in a discord call with their 5 pals.
I personally saw myself making it much farther when being ganked(not saying im some superficial god at the game) and I was even able to beat some of the teamers, allowing me to progress further, the change basically stopped people from clicking the leave button the moment they notice that they're being teamed. It's not about "skill issues." It's just the way YBA works, and before this update, stuff way was worse in SBRs. I don't expect to win 3v1s, but I hope to deserve a chance, which I was given, and I'm sure most of all solo players were. I don't personally agree with your opinion of how the update has changed pvp. Realistically, YBA is 90% dumb kids who wanna team people only to satisfy their own lust to spam ez.
I think it's good that they gave solo players a better chance and ganking is no longer just a braindead barrage fest, when you team on others, you need to actually work in better sync. I also disagree with the "get some friends" point. I get where you're coming from, but getting pals isn't a fix to unbalanced ganking, at all. "Changing the whole system" makes it better for everyone and not just people who have the luxury to call friends into SBRs.
That's just what I think anyway, no offense.
Fun fact: If you're using crazy diamond and a D4C: LT uses Love Train when you hit them with heal mode you get healed instead of them
@Tonic more like a Alien nuclear weapon
ultimate heaven ascended smite
if you think about it that doesnt make any sense since love train redirects only the misfortune
@@cactusflowersarenice6039 yep, it supposed to also bring good fortune
ECLIPSE I LIKE YOUR YBA AND BATTLEFIELD vid :) I like how you are soo holesome you should try to get a star code ;) btw I agree with that thing that happened in this vid
Holesome B)
@@lavenderxoxo96 ...
@@soulkingabstr4kt887 mfw ellipses
Eclipse putting this stuff on a plate for uzu and the mods and they still manage to somehow make the game even worse. These mods abusing mod specs and that one time they lose cause of people either being forced to team on them or they actually use skill to beat their broken specs they complain about "ganking" or "too OP stand, nerf it". Uzu should just remove mod specs in general to teach mods how to actually play the game.
So true the pika pika (teleporting) mod spec lets them get out of any stun which is so op, especially in sbr and buffs their damage. They can also move stack with it i believe
Yeah, but then they'd cry about it and stop doing their jobs.
@@bradleygalo4775 almost all the mods don't deserve their role as a mod to begin with
@@kakarotorgoku2481 Can't say you're wrong.
AUT is coming, so i think YBA can die because of this and stupid moders
Just eclipses explaining every game mode
"It's impossible to win a 3 v 1 in any game."
For Honor: Am I a joke to you?
Eclipse: no matter what game you play if you think you should be able to beat 3+ people at the same time your own drugs.
Dream:I’m I a fucking joke to you ?
Also a Bonus to the course:
Try to get the Enemies into a situation where your Stand is better than their Stands. Example: if you play against a group of ranged Stands, try to get close to them.
Mind blowing
I remember when I got 10 c moons in one sbr match and 5 magician's red in the other so this might not work all of the time
I played against a CD and a 6P, and i just focused the 6p because its a range stand.
It's because "someone" got ganged and this "someone" told Uzu to make it so ganging doesn't exist but "someone" forgot that 2v2s and sbr will get fucked by that update.
Love him or hate him he spittin’ straight facts
The mod literally say in the update "if you need to team in sbr to win then you don't deserve to win" you don't even need to know anything about the steel ball run manga to know how wrong that is almost everything in steel ball run is about teams and helping each other
To that mod: what the fuck do you think gyro and Johnny were doing. I can assure neither were there because of the other's good looks.
There's a very simple change to this:
ONLY PUT THIS CHANGE IN MAIN GAME.
Shut up pops
@@oconnor7664 ya mama
@@Cerulean-Calavera ya dada
I agree
agreed. i *hate* maingame teamers but the barrage is fine for sbr.
just wanted to say that a great way to make SBR not so ganky is simply adding a random server SBR gamemode where you cant server select meaning you can't make massive coordinated teams. then solo SBR can be its own gamemode.
I've been playing a lot of SBR and I haven't noticed it much despite usually teaming with randoms. Maybe it's because I use D4C Hamon and haha clone spam + gun go brrrt. But tbh it's pretty buggy usually and I can easily still hit my victim clones and gun on two people barraging. And I've seen lots of dual barrages go off. Maybe I just don't notice though.
And I thought u were a skillful player😔
@@loupitongo9136 I like to think in decent. I just prefer to play a passive support role. I usually stay in the back and only step in when necessary
Mostly because I don't have LT since I can't get a heart
@@Caragoner atleast it's not LT u may have a little bit of.skill just u tiny bit cuz it's still d4c
@@loupitongo9136 B)
But one thing is that if someone is barraging someone that isn’t barraging back, the barrager can still be hit by other things, so you just need more coordination from your teammate for them to stop barraging
12:03 u could win if u have a ts stand and they don't have ts resist OR if u had killer queen bites the dust, D4C (both forms) and twau
explosion stands = instant win against teamers
Kq can one shot potato pc and mobile
@@robloxenjoyer6231 you mean kqbtd?
@@robloxenjoyer6231 same for mih
The thing that angers me and make me look down on mods more is that they said they watched the video and give reasons why they think they're still right. Then they give their reasons as to why they think the update is justified when there are specific points in the video where Eclipse literally explained already why they're wrong.
Maybe they saw the video but they just skipped everything and didn't understand or maybe they just don't really know how cooperation works and they want it out of the game so that they don't have to figure out how it does.
Guilty gear does a great thing called the developer back yard where the devs will take questions from fans about the game and talk about the changes they’re making before they make it and will talk about their intent with the changes so if they do something like that I feel as tho this sort of thing wouldn’t be as likely to happen as they would have to think about the change a lot more and communicate that with their fans.
Yes but we talking about the people who keep general clossed 24/5 and "the anti cheat isnt faulty"
@@UrticantOdin that’s fair; however I still believe them picking and choosing questions to answer and at least some transparency into their thought process is better than nothing. But if all they end up doing with it is answer dumb nothing questions like “was that CD-R!?!” Then ya the whole thing would be kinda mute.
Mr pres is also useless for the user using it since the heal love is basically useless and it could decide whether you win or not since in sbr, 1v1s, and 2v2s it kick you out when the exit pops up but for the user it kicks you out in less than 3-5 seconds
Eclipse deserves to be a mod in yba. If he was a mod bugs would be fixed by now.
But he doesn't know how to script
I doubt he would want to be a mod lol
@@yesyes6613 Well yes but he can learn it lol
@@wah9312 Its good cuz he will do a mod spec review.
@@yesyes6613 why mods would need to script? They just use commands to ban/mute people
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VID IT BUGS ME SO MUCH
SBR has so many hackers recently I had 3 speed hacker in one and another in my next server :/
i would've won a game but 3 people turned on their speed hacks
@@154deity yeah I was about to win then I saw them speed hacking and knew I lost so I just attacked them
I started just 5 months ago and the "how to deal with it" is what ive been doing for the time I spent on this game
make the update only in main game, but revert the changes in 2v2s and Sbr
Why remove it from sbr?
@@babaloons4887 because sbr is a team mode game
@@arad4619 who said that
@@babaloons4887 it should be obv its a team game
Have u read the manga?
@@arad4619 but im talking about the game not the manga
3 sptw did team on me in main game. All of them died 6 times in a row until they killed me once they spammed ez and logged.
well yeah if you are hecker from beluga's channel its easy to just one tap u, u were prob low and one of them got a bd on you
It's a pretty bad update but I gotta say that it helped me dealing with teamers, but then my friend came to help me so I saw the problems.
Edit: nvm what eclipse did is what happened tbh and it didn't help cuz my friend couldn't kidnap someone barraging me.
*If your against 2 - 3 people it's like a death sentence *
People Who solo wipe : im on drugs
Eclipse: in almost any games, if it’s 3 to 1 u can’t win.
Me in blox fruits: does random 5v1 and wins more than once
'almost'
“Almost”
"Awl-Mowst"
AlmowOst.-‘
Thanks for those tips that I'll keep in mind.
Because I totally get ganged up alot
this is why I watch Eclipse he have strong arguments even if its an opinion he makes it sound like a fact and I agree on those facts, some stuff dose not need nerfs or someway of making it bad there are other solutions that makes teaming not that affective for example teaming I could just team with my friends to fight teamers easy right
No
i''m so glad you posted
I still cant get over the fact that they made twoh reality overwriting punch cancelable like bruh. Twoh IS MEANT to be broken so why the hell would yall nerf it??? The dev team is absolutley terrible.
🤡
????
Tbh at this point if a dev loses, they.end up complaining and ut gets nerfed. Like there are so many stands that need balancing and they do some weird.stuff most of the time. We arent the devs so all we can do is make noise and watch tbh.
Any sort of move that alter another person's body is basically borderline op just existing
they should keep it uncancelable but make the debuff not last 56 eternities
What's funny is that I said most of the stuff eclipse said in this video to paragon when he was doing the polls and he basically said that SBR is a solo mode and that he thinks teaming on people doesn't require skill (it's not meant to require it). He also denied that gangs were created to make modes like SBR team battles lol.
That's Paragon bro, what u expected?
@@gogozepelli i expected him to have 4 working braincells ngl but i guess i was wrong
Yba is a game adaptation of the anime JoJo’s bizarre adventure, everyone can agree on that right?
In JoJo characters can win against the odds if they play it smart and use the things around them, in yba’s case the same applies, if you play it smart and use things to your advantage you can also win.
Teaming is one of those things you can use to your advantage, and just like in jojo it can improves your odds of survival or decrease them if you’re playing with stands that aren’t great for teamwork.
And as much as it sucks to get teamed on, you always feel great if you manage to win. And the same goes for the other way around, sometimes you need more people to defeat an enemy.
What was my point? Idk, I kinda forgot halfway through writing this.
There are more important things to fix like the many horse bugs in sbr, people being falsely banned (although i haven’t heard this one happening in a while) and more things i can’t think of (excuse my bad english, i am not a native english speaker)
Mod: *uses modspec that can take on several people and still win*
Also mods when they get teamed on: Wait, that's illegal
Mods: Have OP stands so they aren’t inevitably ganged up on by literally the entire server
The server, fully aware they’re going to gang on the mods anyways: That’s cheating bro
Like the "fix" didn't do anything really, like people still team and gank its just harder to do and you end up still dying anyway cuz they can still barrage you as their teammates surround you preparing to attack.
Still a great thing
Really doesn’t make any sense how Paragon doesn’t “like” arguments in a “lego game” yet he keeps shit talking AUT devs.
When did he do that?
Im not on yba or aut side but a aut dev shit talked yba and then it started a small beef on yba sub annoucements
@@babaloons4887 I see
They just don’t think before they release something
I roka’d shiny Anubis, got charmy green star plat and roka’d it too
What's charmy green star? Ik it's a skin but of what stand?
Im gonna rk you
@@_-SLAYLEX-_ star platinum
i rokad 2 glocks and a female kc lol
nice flex but i got 7 stand skins in 1 day, and 22 in total
:D
i honestly think the way they should anti gang is this:
the more people attaack you the less damage you take and deal out slightly more damage per each person
if over 4 people attack you within 10 seconds then you gain knockdown resistence (knockback still applies but you dont get ragdolled)
this way team combos still exist but give the user a chance to actually escape but also remove that chance if everything is calculated within a vc
Eclipse: In almost any game you can play, fighting 3 enemies by yourself, there is a very very good chance that you will lose
Doom Eternal Players: *Loads shotgun with malicious intent* ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
Hyrule Warriors: _Confused 3k kill counter_
Eclipse in the start of the video:
"We live in a society"
MFW the world is literally better then TWOH now 😂
How tho?
How tho? The world cant ts anytime unlike twoh
@@imtiazbonny7562 it has the best thing that TWOH have, 9 secs ts, but there's a plus, the rage no longer drains in ts, and the rage dmg buff applies in ts
Ikr
Mfw what that mean
i wish they'd change how the sbr lobby would work, like you should be able to invite a friend and its random, the amount of 8-12 people teams i see is more than 2 man teams
Eclipse can you please continue the footage of your last battles if you dont finish them and after your outro there’s a clip of you fighting the player because it is very entertaining and that’s 30% of the reason of why I watch these type of videos
I wanna counter claim the “how to counter teamers” part with the short clip. Players don’t play like AI, it is very unpredictable when they are going to barrage and teamers don’t always use barrages to catch people. There is a wide verity of things people can do to essentially catch the solo player instead of barraging. So the whole “I can just block and dash out of a barrage is counter play” doesn’t really show that the barrage change was not needed.
Cap people really undermine the fact that the barrage are usually a stand's highest total damage move doing roughly 50-40 damage depending on if a person has defense or not, a single double is basically the same as getting hit by a sptw bd
@@destarker1340 that’s not my point. I’m talking about teaming. Even if a barrage did 0 dmg it would still be good because it would still help their team mates do damage to the solo player that are fighting. If you ever experienced the overpowered barrages back then, 3 people could all barrage the same person and they would be dead because there was nothing to prevent ganking.
@@angry9257 I can definitely say barrages were allow more powerful back then when m1 did actually stun but I don't think 3 people could barrage at the same time and that will kill a person cause I remember health and Regen being alot higher but I guess most people don't actually upgrade those
What have we come to when you have to explain that disagreement isn't hating before you disagree with someone else's opinion.
all this just makes me more excited for aut... yba is so hit and miss currently
I think your taking this the wrong way.
I have a refound for sbr there are 4 team of 4 you start in one of them and if you have gang you are in the same team and you can't attack your team mate and to open the last stage you need only one team steel alive but when his open the team was disvolve and the last run was a solo run where you can kill your old team mate.this change can make happy the solo player and can also delet the lot of craked stand like mih because when your team mate see you have a stand who have a lot of chance to win the bridge run they can let you in 1 vs 4.
Who even plays 2v2 lmfaoo 😂😂😂
People who play 2v2
Well there are still other kinds of barrage that allow ganking like the arrow barrage, the boxing barrage, the sunlight yellow overdrive, the kick barrage, the vola barrage and the 6 pistols G move( I don't remember it's name) . I mean those are not few. Also when only one person barrage you can damage them so if they barrage back and they are stupid enough to not back up and run away, they will get a ridiculous amount of damage. Anyways I didn't like the change from the start so🤝
Lets be honest. Sbr in general is a disaster mode.
Love your content man!
0:43 no disrespect eclipse love your videos but I think me and you both know this issue in society has been going on a lot, lot longer than just recently 😭😂
1:05
Something like this always happens with the first move being a stun move on an npc that hasn't been attacked yet. Since I got Za Hando and Boxing, I thought I could start a combo on Joe P3 with the first move being Eye Gouge. Now, people would think that he actually got stunned and I successfully did the combo. So, whoever thought that...
*..you thought wrong.*
The one thing I think should be fixed is that the stun should actually work. While it does slow down the npc, but it doesn't stop them from barraging. At this point, I'm starting to think that Uzu might as well just rework the entire game.
Not to mention, it's been longer than 5 months and Uzu couldn't release the free spec storage, yet he can release an entirely new stand, not just a rework, but a whole. new. stand. That stand being, Red Hot Chili Peppers, is not only a bit of a garbage stand, but if it took you a month to make a whole new stand, I'm estimating that it could take at most a couple days to release the free spec storage. Uzu is just teasing us and I don't wanna spend 1000 robux just to be able to get Hamon.
Duh, barrage can be used while stunned, that's not excludive to NPCs, it's a combo breaking move
In my opinion, SBR is a team game with a solo hard mode. You team up but you theoretically could do it alone but doing that means you choose hard mode in which you will most likely die.
I think a way to fix this update would be to make a way that if your teamed with somebody, like sbr or 2v2s, you can use. A barrage on somebody and then your team mate can use moves on them. And if your not officially teamed with somebody (i.e. not in a team where the game allows you to team) your moves don’t do damage to people in a barrage.
2 years later and they still havent reverted this change. makes me sad.