I've been using the Eliminators for about 20 years. I had the old ones, and now I have the redlines with the trick crossbar. I've used the white/clear and yellow cams the most. Now, since watching your latest videos, I'll admit I started tinkering more with the pedals. My favorite settings: Powershifter in the light position for all cams My favorite cams are yellow, purple and white in that order. Yellow cam: I like a tight spring tension almost all the way tight. It's a bit of a slow cam, so it benefits from the higher tension. I'm using purple currently at a loose/medium tension set up to my body weight. I can play faster than with the yellow cam, and I can do more, but my playing isn't as precise as it is with the yellow cam. All the cams are trade offs, you'll always lose something to gain something else
@kingdick8390 yes, the heel plate is all the way towards you will put the Eliminator in the light position. I've been using the red cam now at about 80% tension.
@kingdick8390 All the way forward is my least fav. The middle spot is the factory setting. But the light position is best for me. Idk. Everyone is different, every leg and foot is different. My suggestion is to mess around with different settings and then leave it alone. Tinkering can make you crazy.
I have the OG Eliminator Double Pedal for the past 15 years or so. Though about a year ago I discovered ACD and Dennis's upgrades. So now I'm using the Direct Drive Mod, Spring Angle Mod with heavy springs, ACD Bar upgrade, Beater offset and beaters and now it's a whole new world. Way smoother and easier to use. I'm so happy with the ACD Upgrades I'm on the waiting list for his double pedal.
Red cam, mid low tension Red cam is vvv aggressive it ripped through my foam protection protection on my v kit kick pad .. insaaaaaane engineering. Redline all the way
@@kingdick8390 since this comment i have upgraded completely to the ACD Phantoms. 😁 I will say that it made them feel AMAZING. As you can tell, I never went back haha! Direct drive for the win man! I highly recommend trying it! 😁🤟
I also use the Pearl Eliminator pedals. It has always been my dream pedal, especially because of the cam system. I used to dream about the settings I would use once I get them, how faster I would play thanks to the red cams. Once I finally got the pedal, I tried every cams except the black ones, because why would I use boring, normal round cams when I got the " radical progressive " cams that are so much faster and more powerful ? Until that day when I finally deigned trying the black cams, just to see how superior the other ones were. Turns out they never left the pedal since. So yeah, black cams for me.
I've been using Eliminators for 10+ years. In the beginning I experiented with them a lot, then I found the "perfect spot" and kept those settings for years. I had a belt drive, and I used blue cams, but the purple cam was the one for me. The red ones were too just too much. For me the purple has the right balance between feel and beater action. (I'm using swivel technique, and mostly play around 140-200 bpm) I just recently got a an ACD direct-drive upgrade, and I must say it's a whole new world! :)
I've had the same Eliminators for almost 20 years. The Trick drive shaft makes them way better. And i always use red but I don't do crazy double bass like that...yet.
I'm also using red cams at the moment. I used to play with blue ones for a long time, but I feel like red cams are giving me that "perfect" combination between lightness, smoothness and power.
I prefer the Red cam at the moment but I also really like the Purple as they feel a bit easier to control than the Red but you still get the speed and power.
I am not sure which fits my needs. Red are maybe to radical, actually blue cams. Yellow are ordered. Using chain I am thinking about straps... any experiences here?
I find the blue one works well for my technique. The red cam feels light on the initial stroke ( which is good). But it's a bit too agressive for my liking as i just starting using the Eliminators. Hence, the blue cam fits perfectly for me as of the moment.
@@Mari000 it's simply full leg motion for the slower speeds and ankle technique for the more faster stuffs. I've finally switched to the red cam a month ago from the blue one and I've gotten used to how it feels now. The old pedals I was using for years had a round cam so hence getting used to the more aggressive cam took a little more time than I expected.
I can't play anything other than the white/clear cams although many times I've given the others a run. Generally I find double kick playing difficult, despite weekly rehearsals with my Metal band for fifteen years.. I'm not quitting though, one day I hope to crack the 145bpm barrier!
them are sick pedals. i had the ones where you could also change from short board to long! were sick ass pedals i loved them. i still have them all rusty and crusty from 2009 10 ish area i believe. should bust them out one day clean them up. show the old tech some love. i also got some trick dominators as old tech lol. What pedals do i have now? winner gets nothing! except ego because you know everthing obviously
I've had the Dyna Syncs since 2020 and it took me a long time to get my settings right, don't get me wrong I love them but now I'm intrigued by the new Pearl DemonXR so I might be selling mine why? Because I heard it's a pedal for people who have ocd like me, I'm sick of changing my pedal settings all the time & supposedly the Demon is designed just to put together play and work on your form that's it!!
Thanks again- I've had belt drive Eliminators with the black cams for awhile now and they are great. Definitely going to try these out-how about the white ones?
I cannot understand the difference between the cams.All i can say is that they feel weird when i try a new one until i get used to it. But i dont feel the benefits/drawbacks, they are just different. Im trying to get used to the red ones now after a decade of playing the blacks.
@@contramachina354 don't worry, it takes years to loosen the shaft. Because the cams don't have linear characteristic when the shaft is loose left pedal will be a bit lower naturally. While the cam on right pedal in neutral position will be lets say parallel to the floor on left it will have a bit of slope, making it have different action. White or black cams don't have this problem because they are linear.
me too - i have the eliminator redline double pedal, and even at the loosest spring tension it just requires so much effort to play. i dunno what im doing wrong, im trying every setting
@@contramachina354 it is not about settings only, the most essential factor is the way you engage your muscles. Look for Martyn's ankle technique lessons here on yt. It is a game changer and the red line will be very very helpful in your progress.
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I’ve heard nothing but good things about pearl eliminator pedals. Every video I’ve seen anyone using them they seem so effortless.
True that
Very true!
I've been using the Eliminators for about 20 years. I had the old ones, and now I have the redlines with the trick crossbar. I've used the white/clear and yellow cams the most. Now, since watching your latest videos, I'll admit I started tinkering more with the pedals.
My favorite settings:
Powershifter in the light position for all cams
My favorite cams are yellow, purple and white in that order. Yellow cam: I like a tight spring tension almost all the way tight. It's a bit of a slow cam, so it benefits from the higher tension.
I'm using purple currently at a loose/medium tension set up to my body weight. I can play faster than with the yellow cam, and I can do more, but my playing isn't as precise as it is with the yellow cam. All the cams are trade offs, you'll always lose something to gain something else
I also have the Trick drive shaft. It’s great. I have the blue cam now with medium spring tension.
Powershifter in “light position”?
@kingdick8390 yes, the heel plate is all the way towards you will put the Eliminator in the light position. I've been using the red cam now at about 80% tension.
@@1manrcvids286I’m trying to determine the difference in powershifter settings. All the way forward is… idk lol
@kingdick8390 All the way forward is my least fav. The middle spot is the factory setting. But the light position is best for me. Idk. Everyone is different, every leg and foot is different. My suggestion is to mess around with different settings and then leave it alone. Tinkering can make you crazy.
I have the OG Eliminator Double Pedal for the past 15 years or so. Though about a year ago I discovered ACD and Dennis's upgrades. So now I'm using the Direct Drive Mod, Spring Angle Mod with heavy springs, ACD Bar upgrade, Beater offset and beaters and now it's a whole new world. Way smoother and easier to use. I'm so happy with the ACD Upgrades I'm on the waiting list for his double pedal.
Red cam, mid low tension
Red cam is vvv aggressive it ripped through my foam protection protection on my v kit kick pad .. insaaaaaane engineering. Redline all the way
Pear pedals suck.
The Dyna sync is great
I have the eliminators with ACD direct drive instead of cams 😅 love the direct drive feel! It's amazing!
How much better is it?
@@kingdick8390 since this comment i have upgraded completely to the ACD Phantoms. 😁 I will say that it made them feel AMAZING. As you can tell, I never went back haha! Direct drive for the win man! I highly recommend trying it! 😁🤟
Very informative. I love the red cam, I do however prefer the danmar wood beaters.thanks!
I also use the Pearl Eliminator pedals. It has always been my dream pedal, especially because of the cam system. I used to dream about the settings I would use once I get them, how faster I would play thanks to the red cams. Once I finally got the pedal, I tried every cams except the black ones, because why would I use boring, normal round cams when I got the " radical progressive " cams that are so much faster and more powerful ?
Until that day when I finally deigned trying the black cams, just to see how superior the other ones were. Turns out they never left the pedal since. So yeah, black cams for me.
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Same here
same here Black all the way!! i love my Axis A Shortboard.. but the Pearl win by far the most smooth pedals Pearl ever made!
I've been using Eliminators for 10+ years. In the beginning I experiented with them a lot, then I found the "perfect spot" and kept those settings for years. I had a belt drive, and I used blue cams, but the purple cam was the one for me. The red ones were too just too much.
For me the purple has the right balance between feel and beater action. (I'm using swivel technique, and mostly play around 140-200 bpm)
I just recently got a an ACD direct-drive upgrade, and I must say it's a whole new world! :)
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Great video. I was waiting for this one!
Glad you liked it!
I've had the same Eliminators for almost 20 years. The Trick drive shaft makes them way better. And i always use red but I don't do crazy double bass like that...yet.
I'm also using red cams at the moment. I used to play with blue ones for a long time, but I feel like red cams are giving me that "perfect" combination between lightness, smoothness and power.
What tension do you use with the red?
I prefer the Red cam at the moment but I also really like the Purple as they feel a bit easier to control than the Red but you still get the speed and power.
Yes, I think you are right...the purple is not as extreme but still offer almost the same benefits...
Thank you for the reset
I am not sure which fits my needs. Red are maybe to radical, actually blue cams. Yellow are ordered. Using chain I am thinking about straps... any experiences here?
I find the blue one works well for my technique. The red cam feels light on the initial stroke ( which is good). But it's a bit too agressive for my liking as i just starting using the Eliminators. Hence, the blue cam fits perfectly for me as of the moment.
Yeah that's one of the weaknesses of the red cams
What’s your technique? I’ve been using the white cam for about a year now. Was thinking of switching to blue.
@@Mari000 it's simply full leg motion for the slower speeds and ankle technique for the more faster stuffs. I've finally switched to the red cam a month ago from the blue one and I've gotten used to how it feels now. The old pedals I was using for years had a round cam so hence getting used to the more aggressive cam took a little more time than I expected.
I can't play anything other than the white/clear cams although many times I've given the others a run. Generally I find double kick playing difficult, despite weekly rehearsals with my Metal band for fifteen years.. I'm not quitting though, one day I hope to crack the 145bpm barrier!
Does the eliminators redline 2052 pedal come with all those 6 cams when we buy the pedal ?
What about BELT or CHAIN? What is better for all speeds and response?
May i see your pearl redline double pedal spring tension pleasee
I switched from the black cam to the white cam a year ago.
Any reason you choose those over Czarcie Kopyto or the Trick Pro 1-V? Thanks again for your help!
What about settings for the DW MFG
them are sick pedals. i had the ones where you could also change from short board to long! were sick ass pedals i loved them. i still have them all rusty and crusty from 2009 10 ish area i believe. should bust them out one day clean them up. show the old tech some love. i also got some trick dominators as old tech lol. What pedals do i have now? winner gets nothing! except ego because you know everthing obviously
I've been sing the red cams for like 15 years now
Black or blue cams - but I havent tried yellow or purple yet. What are your thoughts on the ACD spring geometry upgrade?
It's awesome 🤟
I looked into that conversation, it's sold out
Have you ever tried Tama dynasync pedals? If so, what do you think about them compared to other similar priced pedals?
Just tried them once in a music store...they felt okay but wasn't super excited..
I've had the Dyna Syncs since 2020 and it took me a long time to get my settings right, don't get me wrong I love them but now I'm intrigued by the new Pearl DemonXR so I might be selling mine why? Because I heard it's a pedal for people who have ocd like me, I'm sick of changing my pedal settings all the time & supposedly the Demon is designed just to put together play and work on your form that's it!!
Can the double pedal be converted into two single pedals?
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yes can
Im thinking of getting rid of my czarcie kopyto pedals for a set of these. Im not getting on with the direct drive
Trade?I have the OG Eliminators with a trick driveshaft.
Thanks again- I've had belt drive Eliminators with the black cams for awhile now and they are great. Definitely going to try these out-how about the white ones?
Just got my red cams in the mail and put them on-time to put the hammer down🤘🤘
clear
So you like the linear feeling 💪
I cannot understand the difference between the cams.All i can say is that they feel weird when i try a new one until i get used to it. But i dont feel the benefits/drawbacks, they are just different. Im trying to get used to the red ones now after a decade of playing the blacks.
What shoe you use teacher?
New balance 574s
I love those cams but after time when drive loosens the become uneven due their nature
what?
please explain more i own these and now im worried
@@contramachina354 don't worry, it takes years to loosen the shaft. Because the cams don't have linear characteristic when the shaft is loose left pedal will be a bit lower naturally. While the cam on right pedal in neutral position will be lets say parallel to the floor on left it will have a bit of slope, making it have different action.
White or black cams don't have this problem because they are linear.
red
Red 🤟🤟
Ist like
Pearl pedals are garbage.
The Tama Dyna sync is fantastic
i m equally bad using all the cams🥲
me too - i have the eliminator redline double pedal, and even at the loosest spring tension it just requires so much effort to play. i dunno what im doing wrong, im trying every setting
@@contramachina354 it is not about settings only, the most essential factor is the way you engage your muscles. Look for Martyn's ankle technique lessons here on yt.
It is a game changer and the red line will be very very helpful in your progress.
@@contramachina354 Have you tried tightening the spring? The tighter the spring the easier it is to play in my experience
@@contramachina354 Practice with shin weights