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2018 Audi Q5 On & Off-Road Review: All New Q5 Gets All New Quattro AWD
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I think that guy likes you Roman. Man he keeps getting closer and closer.
gogosarlo i noticed that too. Roman keeps backing up and almost end up off screen
haha yeah the audi guy kept leaning in closer and closer like a creeper.
The guy you were interviewing was all up in your grill Roman. So much so, you were almost out of frame at the end. Close talker!
Beyond Remote I noticed that too!!!! Respect The Bubble
I was just going to say that. Every shot Roman is backed up further.
very informative video, especially on the new quattro ultta awd system and which models it’s gone into already.
Guy in the red shirt is an awkward close talker!!! Too close for me!!!!
I like the dual clutch technology I have owned several six and 7 speed cars
they are not as smooth as full automatic or torq converter type at lower speeds. the old 7 speed dry clutch could get a bit lurchy in stop start traffic
More interested in the old Audi Q5 and whether you can make it into a good off roader like you did with the Touareg
WOW a whole 10mm of rear legroom thats just amazing!!!
I like AWD all the time. I do not like relying on any computer. I live in Costa Rica lots of rain and off road conditions. Do you have the option to engage AWD mode or it only transitions through the computer system when it feels it's necessary.
My next car for sure!
Does the new Q5 (or current generation) ride stiffer than a RDX? I find that the RDX is way to floaty when im going over bumpy roads at higher speeds... I don't want the Q5 to be like a RDX.
Put this in the snow against the GLC and Discovery Sport... Who has the best AWD system for snowy driving?
when you test it, please let someone that doesnt know that its part time awd take it in the sand or mud and ask them if they think its part or all time. please test that system, because i think a lot of people will be interested in that!!!
Hi I wonder the product specialists Anthony Garbis is he related to the product specialist at the Volkswagen Golf Alltrack they have the same family name one works for Audi and the other one works for Volkswagen?
Only 2.0? They have 5 options in the outgoing model from diesel to hybrid, 2.0, 3.2, and Supercharged V6 sq5.
Roman! How does the steering and handling compare to the RDX?
Looks nice!
Here's a tip for you, automotive journalist: Transverse means the OPPOSITE of longitudinal. Transverse means the cylinders and crankshaft are oriented from side to side like most FWD cars. Longitudinal means they're oriented front to back. The A3, TT, and the Q3 -- in other words, the Audis based on the Golf platform -- have transverse-mounted engines. The rest of the Audi lineup have longitudinally mounted engines, even the FWD A4s,
Sorry I saw it first on autogefühl
hows the interior noise at like 90 mph?
It looks almost the same as the previous 8 year old model. Amazing.
Welcome to German innovation.
Like he said, they're afraid to make drastic changes to something that sells so well. At least every single thing is slightly updated. Makes sense to me from a business perspective.
when are you guys gonna take an Audi up gold mine hill?
Now made in Mexico for 2018 model for 2017 year!
its seriously uber elegant
Will it get over the wall?
Thomas Rock i'm Sorry but you are the idiot trying to explain something that is pretty obvious
logtothebase2 all of u don’t get it , the Q5 r made in Mexico and he referred it to if it’s going to get over the wall
The Audi guy was a bit of a close talker!
And what's up with the Nav screen? It looks like it came from Pep Boys and tacked on the dash. Ze Germans seem to love this lately, my friends C class Merc has that too, it looks super cheap.
That product manager is a big-time close talker.
Would u prefer Mercedes glc suv or 2017 q5 ????
Are all the new Audi Q5's built in Mexico?
That guy is really a close talker.
Is there an option to lock it back into full All Wheel Drive, all the time, if you want? This is a software based program to de-couple, so can't you just tell it to never de-couple?
+Mihaly Lukacs Yes, there is an off-road mode with Quattro enabled all the time.
Even if you can lock it into full time AWD mode, is it still rear-biased?
Will this full-time all-wheel-drive "off-road" mode be available on U.S. cars?
Thomas Rock Did you mean to say that rear-biased AWD systems are ONLY found in longitudinally mounted engines, and that front-biased AWD systems can be found with both engine configurations? Because the new Q5 has a longitudinally mounted engine and it is NOT a rear-biased all wheel drive system.
Lux Ingens No, the new Q5 is a front-biased AWD system. There's a clutch that disengages the rear wheels when deemed unnecessary, such as if you're driving straight on a dry road.
After 4 years I still don’t understand why they don’t using rwd biased awd system like BMW X5 in a longitudinal engine ??? It makes way more sense, gives better handling and better off road ability!
This is natively a rear wheel drive adapted to front wheel drive primarily... A little weird but definitely rear wheel based. Due to their different transfer case design, it is easy for them to this...Part of the reason why the engine is so much in front of the front wheels.. My 21 a5 sportback has the same engine. The powertrain is not the ultra quattro though, it's still 60% rear based, permanent awd...
I don't like the quattro ultra either, but whatever...
We're in 2018 already? Shoot!
Gen 1.0 Q5 was a great car. Gen 2.0 is a bit too light and plastic sounding for me. I drive Q5 Q7 and TT, TTS.
idk if this car will be able to hop the border to the usa.
How can the engine be both transverse mounted and longitudinally mounted? That doesn't make sense. This is an MLB platform, meaning it's longitudinal - not transverse.
Wow. 10 mm extra leg room. Massive.
The previous model looks much better.
Otten Engineering + Technology ew lol
It's really sad that they don't offer the air suspension for the new q5...
The new mercedes glc does offer it and it does all the the difference in ride quality.
I'm disappointed...
Now they made it look exactly like a bigger Q3.
Ness Rosenbrad but also made it a smaller Q7
I wish the high command at Audi added a 42V electrical system and their new electric supercharger to the motor to give it better gas mileage and no turbo lag and better fuel economy to make up for the fact it is being made cheaper in Mexico to justify the price instead of line their pockets in profit to pay for diesel gate.
in order to pay for diesel gate as you call it over 3000 people have no job in the new year as the VW group close a factory in Germany. that the real human price for what we in Europe believe was industrial espionage sponsored by American car manufacturers and the Government. as a result of Germany's anti American stance.
The UK and other European nation are beginning to loose faith in the USA
Keith Newton American car manufacterers have nothing to do with it you putz. VW sales in the usa are less than 300k cars a year..Ford sells over 600,000 F150's! VW is a drop in a bucket! They are getting more in trouble in Europe then they did in the USA.
pennfootball71 VW are not in trouble in Europe they have nothing to be in trouble about. The VW brands across Europe are extremely popular and other manufacturers are having problems matching them.
Keith Newton They are getting sued in Europe left and right for cheating and getting investigated as well by the German government.
pennfootball71 i believe pre 2013 VWs are banned in Korea altogether... even the gas/petrol vehicles...
No fast acting decoupling system is better than full time four wheel drive. I don't care about 1 mpg.
you get a lot more than 1mpg I do not know where you get this figure from . but the saving is a lot more than 1 mpg.
Show me a different number then.
Take it on the trials
Did you ask him why they are limiting customer choice? (Regarding engines) It's as though Audi has fallen into hands of regulators and there no V8 options or even V6 options. It's really sad that they have lost so much identity to EPA regulations.
The S will probably get the 3L turbo which has incredibly good power. But who cares its a crossover, if you want performance get an S5.
Audi like other others non American manufactures are trying to get Americans to be more responsible around fuel consumption and co2 emission plus when they add electric motors very soon the 2ltr will be more than enough..
you Americans have been slow to respond to the development of small capacity high power engines so you are lagging the rest of the developed world when it comes to engine technology you are using engines from the 1980 and you need to move on VW group have made a conscious effort to move to greener car and total ev model range very soon. It's time the USA caught up with engine technology
Keith,
I appreciate you insight and the idea to become more socially responsible. I also see cars as part of visceral experience. By moving to more eco-friendly cars we are moving towards bland and uninspiring performance. Cars will eventually and sadly evolve into something mundane such as piece of clothing you wear or a tool you use to get from point A to B. I am realizing if people want an enthusiast option regarding car choice they will need to shell out the big money for Supercars. They will evadably be our savor. Keith I appreciate your view. Thanks for your insight.
Jeff K,
I actually own a 2013 S4 which I love despite the ride being quite harsh. The direct throttle input you get from the Supercharged 3.0 V6 is amazing. I do find that 2013 S-tronic in my car is a bit slow to respond to downshifts in sport mode, but willing to hold out gears longer on up shifts. It may just be me. I would actually like a wagon or an estate (as they say in more developed countries...lol). This is because they give the utility of SUV with the handling of car.
Ryan Conklin nice car have you ever tried the V8 version?
Nope. Not gonna buy another Q5 until I can get TDI. It's the most amazing power plant I've owned in a car. Now that I've had the best, I'm never going back to mere gasoline again. Not too keen on the non-full-time AWD either. The quattro system makes the car handle so balanced on dry pavement I can't imagine why they'd go backwards on that one. Plus I'm not keen on extra crap and 1/5 sec. gap when I need all wheels driving.
I have to say, this preview is pretty disappointing as a current 2016 Q5 TDI owner.
Joe Barnhart upgrade to a q7, it has the 3.0 tdi as an option
Seems like more and more manufacturers are transitioning to part time AWD. Is this the way the industry is headed?
I bet the Audi could climb up gold mine hill on summer tries, compared to any crossover with mud and all terrain tires.
and the funny thing is they don't brag about/advertise them as off-road weapons:)
So whats the big deal with 'disengage-able' all wheel drive? The Mitsu's however lowly their ranking now may be had selectable AWC including a lock. I always thought Subaru's SAWD and Audi's Quattro were cool as they drove all 4 wheels. Several SUVs and CUVs with AWD automatically control amount of power sent to the wheels depending on driving situation. Predominantly front wheels. I would have liked this if the primary bias was to the rear. But nope! Acura SHAWD any day....I did not understand the buzz about Ultra Quattro... may be I missed something critical or is it just hype....?
Haldex was doing this 12+ years ago in Volvo and VW's. How is this special?
Rediscover this all wheel drive system can be found in so many car these days it's a good system. some of the earlier one had to be serviced very carefully and many grease monkeys where not careful enough about oil seals and the correct oils and doing the services on time. so warning lights would come like a Christmas light display.
but over time things have got better.
miliseconds coupling upon immediate need with an added simulator anticipating the circumstances?
So buy one and permanently leave in off-road mode then?
And offroad ?
They just keep trying to take all the control away from the driver. And that might make it easier to handle the traffic, but it can get really dangerous on some off roads. It's a shame cause most of the great off road cars are either really big and sometimes you might not have enough space for them, or really old with an interior that feels like sitting on a street bench
No thanks I will keep my old full time quattro
he's moving in for the kiss Roman
What is wrong with world? it is 2 years until 2018
it's actually a little over 13 months until 2018
no it will be out in around september
The interviewee was close because they were sharing a single lapel microphone
It would have been beter is the ultra system would go for rear wheel instead of front wheel infect all audi sedans should become rear wheeldriven including the S and RS models
Aww man not even the 3.0 diesel
I still don’t like the new headlights. I would love my 2011 Audi Q5. I’ve had it for several years now and guess what my affair with that car has not gone away. That’s right use later not months later but years later I still love driving my Audi Q5. I would love to have some of the new features of the newer ones but I wouldn’t want some of the others so give-and-take I’ll keep the one I have right now
I spy with my little eyes, Lauren Fix.
I didnt saw it here first so...
Q5 or GLC?
Craig Sudhoff depends on trim
Am I dreaming or did Roman actually do an professional and interesting review? One without the childish talk that I can share with Church people and still have a clean conscious.
not hating here, but that Audi guy is a "close" talker. lol. (Seinfeld reference)
the 2ltr diesel is a better engine by far.
Diesels are the way to go for off-road because a diesel engine can be really torquey at low rpms, but this are Volkswagen diesel engines...
Marian Irmer with you 100% I have not go many petrol cars in my personal car collection as the diesels are always better
Power delivery is there at low revs and they are just as fast a petrol these days.
Keith Newton '
So.... Haldex then? Say good bye to the rear biased fun from the old system, and hello to never ending understeer! Will Subaru soon be the only maker left doing proper AWD systems?
Viking84 Subaru isn't doing proper awd anymore either lol. It's a shame !
They did not specify that it was Haldex, anyway what is wrong with Haldex?
Intrepid Milotic Depends what you want an AWD system for :) If it is just for a bit of added grip and the ability to get up a snowy hill then Haldex and similar systems are fine. If you want something that makes a car more fun to drive then I found it to be pretty poor. The cars are essentially front wheel driven in feel, and never get that lovely rear drive over steering balance that the rear-biased Torsen diff in the proper Quattro system gives.
My understanding is that all the manual cars still have proper centre diffs, and the WRX STI even has torsen diffs front and rear. The auto's have some strange viscous coupling though.
I believe Subaru now a division of Toyota will follow the Trend of other awd saloon and estates as Toyota is the most profit in the configuration.
I'm in love sing me up for one
Quattro conectable??!!!! The best asset Audi had was its permanent Quattro system and now the made it connectable???.... WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT
they have been using these types of awd systems on there products for a long time now I am surprised that you are only just picking up on this the system is not that far removed from the previous Q5
would like to add that these modern haldex systems are in many way better than the torsion systems and offer more option and flexibility when it comes to getting you out of situations. The fact that you can loose traction on 3 wheels and still move is a great advantage over the torsion system
This "New" Quattro is a stupid Vag Haldex System,
it's not a very good All-Wheel drive system,
it makes the front wheels wear very fast
I thought it was DSG not automatic? I also need to add this is a 2017 model not 2018 what is it with these people that they cannot get there dates rights this vehicle was launched at the Paris motor show its on sale now it a 2017 model year
Keith Newton it's an automatic.
DSG, is a semi-manual/semi-automatic transmissions.
Dual Clutch Transmissions operate much like manual transmissions, however, they are faster, more efficient, and can even last longer with a binary clutch (one for even gears, one for odd), which means that it's already ready to shift into the next gear before you even want it. The DCT, whilst also manually operable in most instances, however, can be used in an 'automatic format', which means that most people would consider the DCT a 'semi-automatic', as it offers a software based, automatic shifting.
Tan N you are wrong the new 7 s tronic is a seven speed dual clutch semi automatic not full automatic, VW group have moved away from traditional automatic that's why I was surprised when he said it was automatic. These car people need to get there facts correct and it a wet clutch as apposed to the old 7 speed dry .
Technically, you're wrong. It also sounds like you have never driven a VW/Audi with DSG/S-tronic. When you put the gear lever into "D" or "S", it drives mostly like an automatic. I say mostly because it doesn't have a torque converter, which creeps the car forward. It will shift up and down automatically, like an conventional automatic, but, at a much faster rate.
Tan N I cannot be technically wrong because a DSG does not have a torque converter all full automatics have a torque converter. The DSG had a clutch system and in this case it's a due clutch which it can select thous giving a better gear change as apposed to the single clutch automated manual used by one PSA group cars and some ford city cars.
The DSG has a automated mode in which it simulate an automatic gearbox, however you can still get a small amount of jerkiness in stop start traffic which you do not get in a fluid guild torque converter of a normal traditional automatic gear box VW group never say it an automatic gearbox they say it a day or s tronic with a automatic mode. As I have the the pleasure of owning several DSG or s-tronic gear box's I do have some insight into this I also own automated manual, and CVT so I well placed to compare these semi automatic over a standard automatic like that found in Mercedes or GM cars.
The Mercedes 7 and 9 speed automatics are exceptionally good and can match the DSG fuel economy advantage and there torque converter are over a half size smaller than they where 8 years ago the fin technology going into these new milled cast torque converter s is spectacular. Currently DSG are still not as smooth in all types of traffic. But a duel clutch system will! Only ever be a simulated automatic
I like the way you get wood trim in Europe and the UK we are forced to have metal or silver trim and I personally hate it . there nothing that say cheap low rent car than metal silver trim brushed alloy is the lowest of the low chrome door handles are fine chrome or stainless pin strip line to hide a gap or act as a finisher ok but huge piece of brushed silver metal says cheap and nasty with no class same a milled alloy on cars I hate it. carbon fibre is not much better and this mixing carbon fibre and leather on the seat is something I expect from Chinese cars.
Q5
C-X5 vs Q5
We all know about Audi and The VW Group use of software. ;-)
Audi making the Q5 in Mexico to pass on the savings to the consumer....Not!
Yippie it actually is cheaper on mexico than the last gen
The Close talking make that technical explanation very awkward.
I absolutely hate my 2019 Q5 quattro system. The quattro system fails every time when driving on snow and ice. So I drive it in off-road mode during winter and comfort mode in Summer. These cars are never meant for Canadian road conditions. I'll never buy an Audi again. It isn't a premium car anymore. I wish they go back to the Torsen differential and ditch Haldex. Stay away from quattro system, Canadians. It's not a full time AWD car anymore.
Hey Roman. Much respect im a big fan of the show and the team. In all due respect though. This new quattro ultra is not a quattro at all. Audi is killing its legacy and legend by doing this. I actually strongly considered an allroad until i discovered that it has this new part time system. If i wanted that id get a nissan or a honda. Im glad that the system is great and all that... it's all marketing bs and we all know that. You know whats even faster than 200ms or half second??? It's a system thats already engaged in the first place and using cogs and metal parts not clutches.
What a disappointment... how can they do this to themselves? I just dont get it. Perhaps i am wrong anyway as thousands of mindless americans will spend 50k and not give a sh... about what they are buying.
+maxbassful thanks for the thoughtful comment. Please note that you can put the car in off-road mode at which point it locks the car in permanent AWD.
maxbassful I understand what you are saying but it make sense. the most off roaring these cars see will be a grass verge or a field if it's luck. most of the time it's on the road and so to reduce fuel consumption and co2 output it make.
the average driver does not need a permanent 4 wheel drive .They just want the add feel good factor that is it bring them in winter and the slippier surfaces but many people forget about the tyres it does not matter how good you awd is with the wrong tyre fitter it make no difference. Tyre are really important and people are not getting this message
maxbassful The reason why is, its uneccesary to have quttro all of the time, it uses too much gas then, but its not that bad, in just 0,2 seconds the quattro activates
Hi shakke52. Do you know what the fuel savings are.... 5% at best. Nothing beats permanent 4x4. Quattro is what Audi's reputation is built on, this new system is not a true Quattro. Neither are the system in the A3, TT and Q3.
maxbassful it's not just the fuel it's the co2 figure plus these car do not go of tarmac and if they do it will be a nice manicured lawn somewhere.
as a Q5 owner (2011) , im very disappointed. its basically the same car with a face lift and refreshed interior , sold since 2008 . was waiting for this one but no thanks,
Shai Milikowski same car less choice. Agreed I won't buy one
Shai Milikowski me too.
Bullshit get one to experience it...iv had my new one for 6 days and it's fab...forget 2011 this is 2019. 🍾🥂👍🏼
No way is any Q5 owner gonna take their Q5 off road. Farm track ? Cone covered woodland track ? But no way is this car gonna go over rocks or traverse a deep stream. This car will spend 99% of its time on normal roads taking kids to school and going to the supermarket. The interior is full of cheap plastic and the MK1 model was a more robust and better put together car. Hard plastic door pulls, cheap plastic door cards, panels that warp and dubious build quality since they moved to Mexico from Germany. It’s a down grade from the previous model. Sad because the MK1 was what made the Q5
Audi Seems To Be Going Backwards!!!!!!!!
Hey Audi guy, 50K isn't 26% of 202K. I trust your percentage is right, but your numbers are wrong.
Jeep Renegade at half the price does same thing... decoupling during normal road conditions and engage into awd automatically when necessary...
Audi really need to fire its chief exterior designers, so maybe it'll start producing attractive cars again.
Changing to FWD-oriented "AWD" is a poor decision; most buyers of this price range really don't care about gaining that 2mpg, they pick the German brands over Lexus because they want better driving dynamics, not better fuel economy.
I won't buy a luxury car from Mexico. I wonder how many consumers globally will pass on the Q5 because of this.
sounds like 4 motion from VW .. not good
1st comment, am I gonna get hate?????
The way I see Audi soon will let us choose if we want FWD, RWD or AWD in a press of a button.
And we all know how infallible software is. I dont foresee any problems with this new crapttro system
He is creepy close to you
Kinda funny how they are all trying to be like Honda's CRV real-time 4WD system, be it a little bit late to the show. LOL
I heard that Audi was going to start building their cars in Mexico. I sincerely hope that they don't do that because the quality of a german built car is far better than one built in Mexico.
3/4s of a Q7. Lol
3rd
It’s not and never will be an off roader. Mk1 was a more solid and better put together car. This is what happens when you try to cut costs and get your cars built in Mexico rather than Germany. A real shame as this was so good a car. And the inside is full of plastic panels with a £5000 mark up over the outgoing models starting price. Stay away from this one.
I dont like the interior to be honest..
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, but Audi royaly fucked up on the q5 and the q7. Who the hell is in charge of design
The new A5 is a bit sportier and more aggressive, which I don't mind. It reminds me of Jaguar. I thought the old A5 was a bit plain.
I actually think it looks a lot better than the previous gens.
i cant notice the difference btw this and the previous one...
Always the same... in my opinion that car isn't as interesting as it was before.
I trade my 2013 a4allroad quattro for s3 with haldex and yes its fun and fast but you can feel difference between real awd and this haldex (on wet surface)and i test new a4allroad with this ultra quattro and doesn't feel like my old allroad:( R.I.P quattro.New car feel cheap vs old audi"s cars,yes technology is grat but overall is not better than volkswagen products.price went up, my premium plus a4 allroad with B&O and technology package was 49kMSRP new one is 52-54 at the dealers with this fake quattro and now this Q5:(.sad day for audi enthusiasts:(
The quattro ultra mode sounds like another software problem waiting to happen. For the amount of money Audi charges it shouldn't screw with what makes Audi an Audi. This part time quattro system is total bullshit because it should be driver controlled not software driven. the interior of the car is very cheap looking. I guess that is why it is being built in Mexico. It will be only a matter of time that the Q5 will start to fail. Audi is changing the wrong items. I have a 2015 Q5 and will not be buying another one. Audi overcharges for repairs and really has poor customer service.