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Important note about the 1806 map with the Confederation of the Rhine. The Kingdom of Hanover didn't really exist until 1814 with the Congress of Vienna.
Yeah, and I am not really sure what is meant with the 'kingdom of the netherlands' at 16:07. It was part of the Batavian Republic since 1795, became part under the 'kingdom of holland', just like the rest of west Netherlands, under Louis Bonaparte in 1806, and didn't become a free Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1815. But that for sure included all of current Netherlands, Belgium and Luxemburgh.
On a related note, ever interested in diving into the formation and downfall of Burgendy? It was marriage's that pulled this part of Europe away from the HRE and eventually got it wound up under Spanish Habsburg rule (in a remarkably short timespan).
Welcome to my hometown - good decision to do it AFTER Oktoberfest - I think Residenz will be you prime target - but don´t forget our Schloß Nymphenburg!!
The rulers of Hanover at that time were the same Welf family who were expelled from Bavaria centuries before, sometimes rendered Guelph.
Ask me if I care
I am from Bavaria and had an English teacher who was originally from Scotland. He always jokingly said that, in his opinion, the Bavarians were the "Scots of Germany", for various reasons: a funny and barely understandable dialect, their own costumes and traditions, mountains, love of alcohol, a long-standing animosity towards their neighbors, and a desire for independence.
You are from Germany*
@@Donut-fr7is*Bavaria
Yes, i grew up in a town close to munich.
Interesting comparison that also works for Texas.
@@rasmusn.e.m1064Kid you not: Bavaria is sometimes also called the Texas of Germany, because its the biggest and most southern state, very religious and extremly conservative 😄
Minor Error in the video: There are actually three Free-States in Germany as of now - Bavaria, Saxonia and Thuringia. Additionally, Hamburg and Bremen are officially Free Hanse Cites and States of Germany.
I just wanted to write the same but then YT showed me your comment as soon as I opened the commet section XD
Correct, three free states!
I m from near Munich and there is a funny urban legend that goes like this: It is said that the Bavarian kings had a rather close and friendly relationship with the common people. At the end of the First World War, when the revolution was taking place in Munich and the workers were arming themselves and taking control of the city, the then King Ludwig III was on a walk with his entourage in the English Garden (Munich's largest park). When he saw the groups of armed men, he approached one of these groups and asked what was going on. Instead of taking the king prisoner, one of the workers politely replied, "A revolution, your majesty. I think it would be safer if you went home." and then simply let the king and his group leave.
I hope you mean Ludwig III. Ludwig II walking around in 1918 would definitely be ... interesting.
@@drs-xj3pb Haha you are right! Typo on my part. As far as I know, there are no zombie kings roaming the streets :D
@@FinianFhomhairThat's a relief! I was starting to worry.
10:56 Sabaton has a great song about the 30 years' war, its called "A Lifetime Of War" and there are two versions of it. The English version talks about the causes and the conduct of the 30 years' war while the Swedish version is about a common Swedish soldier fighting in the war.
Bit of trivia: Hitler hated the acronym nazi because in Bavaria they have a slang term nagi which means a rube, hayseed or unsophisticated person and when speaking the two words sounded remarkably similar.
4:58 Yes, "Czech" means "Bohemian" in Czech. Bohemia is one of the historical regions forming modern Czechia. The other main part is Moravia.
You can find the suffix "České" or "Moravské" to distinguish place names, for example České Budějovice would be what was called Budweis in German (the city of beer fame). But there also is a town called Moravské Budějovice.
Cheers from Vienna, by the way! 🙂
Thank you so much for the shoutout, always love your content!
Hope you and the group have a great time on the trip, it should be absolutely incredible!
My dad’s parents are from Munich. Still has relatives there. Been there so many times for the Oktoberfest and the mountains and castles. I love Bavaria and love seeing you cover this amazing place
I don't know if you're aware of that, but your last name Hüttinger (if that is your real name) is actually a typical Bavarian name.
7:25:
The House of Welf is arguably the most successful noble house in Europe.
It still exists today. For instance the House of Hanover is Welf - and so of course is the House of Windsor.
I’d argue the Capetingians are the most successful in Europe.
Technically, Windsor is Wettin, not Welf.
@@marsultor6131 Only if we also take into account the Orléans, Valois and Bourbon side lines. Otherwise the House of Habsburg.
Not Oldenburg? It has agnatic lines still ruling in Denmark, Norway, and now also the UK even though they go by a different name; they also have claims to the Greek and Russian thrones.
@@-Eisenfaust- they are cadet lines of the house so they still belong under one roof.
Loved your channel for years, I don't watch any other history video "reaction" channels other than you. Most often they just say "wow that's crazy" or "yeah i know that" or something... You should be proud that so many of us come to you to get more historical context to a lot of these interesting channels. And me as a socialist point of view and watching someone more conservative, it just proves that talking about history, facts are facts, so long as we acknowledge our biases and interpretation of those facts, it is a healthy conversation. It's weird that healthy historical/political conversations can be better had in youtube comments than my own family dinner table back home, but that's the great thing about your channel. Sorry for rambling, but thank you for this great community.
I think the formation of these people groups and their settlement history is actually an aspect rarely discussed. It's really interesting when you consider that it certainly influenced the development of different dialects, as well as where exactly the language borders ended up being in places like the southern alps or Lorraine.
At first glance at the thumbnail, I thought the shirt said "Michigan." I thought "Chris has lost it proudly sporting Michigan like that." Lol
I served in Bavaria with the US Army from 2002-2004. Bravaria is beautiful and Munich is amazing.
In Bavaria, the cities of Nuremberg, Regensburg and Bamberg are absolutely worth seeing. But also something like Passau or Dinkelsbühl, Nördlingen.
The vacation spot of Germany. Business in the North, party in the south!
I like my vacation quiet, so I usually go to Oberammergau.
There is a road, a river, a road then the alps just go straight up!
Hi, VTH! I know you haven't played Campaign Trail in a long time. I just wanted to tell you that there is a new 1920 mod, and it's very good.
You can play as many different candidates too: in the Democratic side, you start off with Thomas E. Marshall, but depending on your choices, you could get Cox, Palmer, or even William Jennings Bryan. It's tons of fun, and the questions change from playthrough to playthrough, so replayability is really high. I recommend that you check it out!
Another mod - 1972 Peace With Honor - has a similar system of changing candidates, but, in this case, you're Nixon, and your actions can affect the Democratic nomination. The options are McGovern, Muskie, Shirley Chisholm, Ted Kennedy, John Lindsay, Scoop Jackson, Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace. The one you get depends on your status in Vietnam, diplomacy with China, and sabotaging the Dems. I do warn you, though - as it is a mod about Nixon, and Nixon speaks in first person in it, there's a lot of cursing.
Cheers!
Another suggestion I have regarding NCT are the George Romney mods, in 1968 and 1972. In 1968, you'll get elected, and in 1972, you'll have to govern the nation through the Bretton-Woods crisis, get America out of Vietnam, pass laws, and still beat Ed Muskie. It's really fun, challenging, and rewarding too, because the endings are excellent.
Neat little video, a little bit oversimplified, but I guess that's the whole point of it. The map at 20:00 not only shows what "you could divide it [Bavaria] into", but it actually depicts our "Regierungsbezirke" ('Governmental Districts'- the administrational level below our federal states). Hope you guys have a nice trip to Bavaria/Austria!
Greetings from Germany hope you will like it here👍
Oh please I can't wait for your travelogue through Bavaria. My folks spring for a tour of Europe in 1984 when the dollar was high. We went to Innsbrookand Wiesbaden.
Rihanna's on one of the places I want to go most. I can't wait for your travelogue. If I can't get to go there myself you can travel me through on the internet and make me so happy thank you
Looking forward to your inside on my beloved Baveria.. Was so much fun watching this and thank you for all your amazing work
Greetings from Germany. Hope you will have a great time in Germany & Austria. Went to Salzsburg last year. The castle of Salzburg has a great military museum worth a vsiit.
Awesome! I am interested in hearing about your trip when it happens. I happened to book a Vienna-Munich trip for December and am very excited.
I’m currently living in Vorarlberg in Austria, which has a dialect similar to ones used in Bavaria, and my goodness is it difficult to understand. As a Brit coming here having only learned Standard German, sometimes I can barely make out what people are saying.
The reason why it is difficult to understand is that although it is called a dialect it could as well also count as different language. There are big differences between the different dialects and Standard German but only the Netherlands and Luxembourg have decided to call their German dialects languages.
In Vorarlberg a variety of Alemannic dialects is spoken which has not only differences in pronunciation, but also in vocabulary and grammar. This makes it of course hard to understand it for a Standard German speaker. For example the Alemannic dialects are well known for using "gsi" instead of "gewesen" ("been" in English). The literal translation of "gsi" would be in Standard German "gesein" (g = ge and si = sein). Therefore while Standard German is irregular "sein" -> "gewesen" the dialect uses the regular form "si" -> "gsi". If you are not aware of such things (and there are many more like this) then you have a hard time to understand what is going on.
Really liked this video, I learned a lot, Bavarian history is not a topic that comes up as often as it probably should. Also, you should consider reacting to some hilarious content over on DocuDubery! There are some hard hitting historical videos such as how WW2 ended by a rap battle, how Messi's football career was due to the Bronze Age, and how George Washington single handedly won the revolution behind the wheel of a 2010 Dodge Challenger.
My great-great-grandmother came from Windheim in Bavaria. Her husband came from Lower Saxony.
Love your content, Chris. Enjoy your trip. That’s my favorite part of the world.
What software do you use to put this all together? I’m putting my own reaction content together and I enjoy your format more than any other!
blessings from upper bavaria! hope you have a beautiful time visiting :)
hi Chris! love this kinda of videos, i would love to see you react to more history about each european country (or the world)
I live in Germany (Lower Saxony, specifically), so I'm excited for your trip! I hope you enjoy!
The first time I've heard some bavarian guy on german TV talking about the "Freistaat Bayern" - Free State of Bavaria, I was really confused why they call it that way. I asked my parents about it and they answered jokingly that it is some kind of bavarian patriotism. But I have to admit I'm kinda jealous, the Free State of Lower Saxony would also sound nice🙃.
Anyways I found your channel because you reacted to videos I've watched. Now I'm watching all of them again with your reactions. I saw some reaction videos before but you add your own knowlege and style of narration to it. That makes seeing your reactions of videos a whole new fun and enriching expirience! At this point I'm also watching reactions of content I didn't know before.
Just wanted to apreciate your work and say thanks for this amazing content!😊
Never been this early for an upload, love the content as always. Have been planning to go to Berlin sometime soon, might go to see Munich as well.
your profile picture 😟☹️
Go to Hamburg, it’s a fantastic city too.
When you're in the region check out Passau (+ the castle in Burghausen). It's almost on they way between Munich and Vienna. Regensburg, Landshut and Nuremberg are also easily worth visiting.
Nice to see a video about my state, also your german pronounciation is pretty good!
A reaction to the Kings and Generals serie about the Thirty Years War will be so cool.
Have fun in Bavaria! My family moved to Wisconsin from Neureichenau, Bavaria around 1880. Wisconsin has a lot of Bavarian Germans.
maybe that explains why the rest of germany dislikes both the us and bavaria
I was there last year and stayed in Füssen and got to see Neuschwanstein Castle and another castle right by it (the name slips my mind). But it’s extremely beautiful and highly recommend stopping by if you have the chance.
Cool fact! Many Ohioans have family roots in Bavaria.
About the uninterrupted rule of the Wittelsbach in Bavaria, it's actually 2 different main branches of the family, with more senior line of the Palatinate coming to rule also in Bavaria after the extintion of the Bavarian branch in 1777.
The two separated at the time of the first Wittelsbach emperor Louis the Bavarian (early 1300s). The distance between these two branches is similar to the one separating the Bourbon and the main line Capetians. Critically the two families will be often rivals if not outright enemies. So whether they belong to the same house or not is somewhat a matter of semantics.
Their ability to inherit each other territories in case of male line extinction was predicated on a particular family law, so they would obviously consider themselves as part of the same dinasty.
Of note to fans of British history, the mother of George I, the first Hanoverian king, was of the Palatinate branch -- and by law, only her descendants can inherit the throne.
Yes, she was the closest protestant relative to the Stuarts. Her father was the "Winter king" of Bohemia who would see his lands confiscated, sparking a new phase of the 30 years war. At that time Bavaria acquires electoral dignity because the Palatinate loses it.
Awesome commentary as usual. For more on Germany, I recommend his video "What if Every German State became Independent" and his videos on German Flags and territorial evolution of Germany.
My family is from Bavaria! I was born in the northern part, in Schweinfurt. My mother and grandmother were born in Kronach. I miss the area, but we come and visit every year still.
It’s more Franconian than Bavarian. That region doesn’t have the same traditions, dialect, culture as typical Bavaria.
You also explain each part of video very nicely , LOVE FROM INDIA❤
It is said that Bavaria is inhabited by 4 "tribes": Bavarians, Franconians, Swabians and the expelled Germans from the east (especially from Bohemia) who came after 1945.
About the Dialects: It is actually a bit more complex than that. Yes, there are Swabian, Franconian and Bavarian, but you can divide these Dialects to more and more groups. For example: Bavarian can be divided into Upper-, Central- and Lower-Bavarian. Then Central Bavarian can be divided into an eastern (in eastern Austria) and western realm (parts of Bavaria and Austria). But these groups can be divided again in a several groups, because every region can have its own unique pronunciation of words and phrases.
Yeah, the German language can be complicated, but I love the diversity of variants for the same language! Viennese is my favorite Dialect
One thing I find interesting about Salzburg is that it wasn't under the rule of the Habsburg until 1805 and not part of the Archduchy of Austria. It was instead a Prince-Archbishopric until 1803 and then briefly a secular "electorate". So Mozart wasn't technically Austrian.
Just a small note: Bavaria is currently not the only "Freistaat". Saxony is also a "Freistaat".
I live in Vienna It's a great city. Unfortunately I am not in Austria in October so I do not have the opportunity to meet you.
PS: If you can go inside the palace of justice. It is amazing and not many people know of this.
My family on my fathers side is almost entirely from Bavaria and this will be an interesting video to watch.
Saxony also is a "Freistaat" Free-State
There's definitely a chapter missing here on how Bavaria gained and eventually lost control of the palatinate (my home state). A very complicated relationship, and there's still a lot of rivalry between the two (nowadays, though, it's mostly in the form of their football teams).
Interesting that most German immigrants weren’t from Bavaria. I am pretty close to full blooded German ancestry and that is mostly of Bavarian descent with a little bit of northern German in there as well. Found this video even more intriguing because of my ancestry.
Good luck in the trip I hope you have the greatest day in Vienna Salzburg, and Munich
I hope you have a wonderful trip. Can't wait to see the Vlogs. BTW: what they didn't show on the map, it is not Anhalt, it is Sachsen-Anhalt or Saxony-Anhalt in English. And no, there is not just one free state, there are three: Bavaria, Thuringa and Saxony.
Bavaria is a fascinating country! My favorite period lf them was their kingdom one!
You should have started with Servus! ! This is how we greet each other!
would LOVE some more content about the 30 year war!!!
hopefully you get to visit some of "mad" king Ludwig castles, all of them are beautiful
It's not just the Alemanni. In Finnish and Estonian, all Germans are referred to as Saxons. Finnish in particular has its own unique exonyms for a bunch of peoples according to which tribe from that people they first made contact with.
Bavaria is also a brand of beer that is brewed in the Netherlands.
In Bavaria they say Servus instead of Guten tag, certain lands in germany have their own tweaks.
I love General Knowledge.
I'm by no means an expert on it but a really good book. I read a while back since you mentioned that war is Peter Wilson's "The Thirty Years War: Europe's Tragedy." It's a massive tome so not for the faint of heart but it is a really good book packed with a ton if info about it.
man another great video. If you ever get the chance i would love to see you react to- How The American Civil War Made Canada by Canadiana
Did it a few days ago. Before this video.
4:25
Yes, but this is a later development. By the 13th century "Alemannia" came to be the prefered term for the German speaking region in Latin and it corresponds with the ruling dynasty of Hohenstaufen that were Swabian (also called Alemannia).
Bavaria is also special in political terms. The state has been ruled by the same governing party, the CSU or Christian Social Union (the Bavarian sister party of Merkel's conservative CDU), without interruption since 1945.
"Germany" in Portuguese is "Alemãnha", to expand a little on what you said earlier. And wow, they lasted 800 years, transitioned well to modern times and are doing fine these days? That's an amazing track record right there.
Oh yeah more 30 Year War content would be fun.
I would love 30 years war content, I think it is among the most fascinating periods in history and definitely under discussed.
The army movement alone was absolutely crazy and it saw so many massive developments:
- France overtaking Spain as Europes biggest power which she would remain until the Napoleonic wars
- Permanent shifting of centuries old trade routes and with that new centers of power
- The HRE becoming largely toothless, for all the memes about it, it was complex and confusing to be sure but actually quite effective but after the 30 years war not anymore
- Maybe most importantly the end of religion as a driving factor of European politics
Anyway, sorry for running a little riot, I just wanted to encourage that because I really think this topic is criminally underrepresented in general.
But for now I wish you all the best for your trip. Your German sounds very good btw
I found out last year those donuts at the bakery people called barbarian cream donuts are actually Bavarian cream
Who wants chris to react to kings and generals series about the 30-year war.
Fun fact: the Bavarian national anthem was not written before the Republic, i.e. directly after WW1. Therefore, in contrast to most other national anthems (France, UK, USA...), it is lyrically very humane and peaceful and less patriotic, monarchical and aggressive.
Good video.
Greetings from Stuttgart, Germany 🇩🇪
Bohemia still exists, it’s one of the historic lands Czechia is made of: Bohemia, Moravia and (Czech) Silesia.
yo im from germany. in bayaria you say "Grüß Gott". But in Germany "Guten Tag" is pretty dang good.
One mistake in the Video there are actually two more freestates in Germany Thuringia and Saxony. Freestaate means in this context something like state with out a monarchy
In French Germany is Allemagne and in Spanish is Alemania, so what you said is totally correct.
Minor correction. Saxony is a free state (Freistaat)too
My grandfather from illinois had parents who came from bremmen
Little nitpick but this is repeated so often that it warrants clarification:
The HRE wasn't strictly speaking an empire but rather a universal idea. It was still made up of kingdoms, those being Germany, Italy and Burgundy (Bohemia too but that's a little different). The prince electors didn't elect the emperor but the "king of the Romans" i.e. the king of Germany who ex officio also assumed the kingships of the other realms.
The king only got to be an emperor if the pope gave him his blessing hence elevating the secular office of a king to a sacred office of the emperor.
Later they simplified that a bit and just went by "emperor elect" to not have to go to Rome all the time but the distinction was still there.
Bavaria :,D It's unsure whether or not my Prussian Merc ancestors came from there, but my surname comes from Bavaria, so I like to think that's my heritage.
The HRE was almost the prequel to the European Union.
One thing I didn't know about the Celts/Gauls until watching a Wondrium course on it is that the Galatians all the way out in Turkey were Gallic! It made me wonder how culturally the book of Galatians would have been understood, being neither Jewish nor predominantly Greek in its history/culture/philosophy.
(Also, since it's relevant with this video being about Bavaria, day 2 of plugging the game Pentiment!)
There's also Galicia in Poland/Ukraine and Galicia in Spain.
2:00 I was wondering why you called Sachsen-Anhalt Anhalt Saxony, until I noticed Saxony-Anhalt is just being called Anhalt 😂
Saxony also calls itself "Free-state".
Please check out someone called Ho Feng Shan when in Vienna
Bavaria is Catholic in Napoleon Total War which was around the 19th century but its existed since Christianity and close to Italy.
In French, the word for Germany is Allemagne. Alemania is spanish, or Alemanha is portuguese.
It comes from the altération of "all men"...old german.
I thought it was a square dance call.
Saxony and Thuringia are „Free States“ as well. Not only Bavarians feel special, every region has its own dialect and traditions. Remember the mentioned holy empire. This is to this day deeply inherited into our DNA. Most older people will refer to themselfs as Bavarians, Hessians, Saxonians etc. first, Germans second. Younger ones will see themeselfs Europeans second.
There's a Sabaton song about the thirty years war... a reaction video, maybe? 😉
The most beautiful place on earth
Do you plan on reacting on northern german history?
As an Austrian (or native Austrian-speaker) "Austro-Bavarian" really hurts. There are differences between Bavarian dialects and Austrian dialects. In parts they are so big, that communication gets difficult.
Still classified as one family of dialects.
There are of course different variations (of course its a difference between a Styrian dialect and a Tyrolean one) but all Austrian dialects originally come from the Bavarian dialect (except Vorarlberg dialects which come from the Alemannic dialect).
You have got to check out Kraut the Parrot if you're into German history. (Not too sure how he feels about reaction content)
The comment that monarchs and princes also fought on the German side in WWI because Germany was a federal empire made up of many kingdoms and principalities is correct. But the same applies (in WWI also to Tsarist Russia and) on the Allied side to the UK. There are noble Brits then and still today - of course also in their military. Italy was also on the Allied side in WWI and was a monarchy at the time.
I hardly ever heard anybody refer to themselves as "European" in any other context than global politics.
The HRE didn't actually start out as a mess. Like the video showed it started out with only a handful of duchies and the Ottonians and the first half of the Salians were actually able to centralise the empire, certainly more so than their contemporary English and French counterparts. It's only with the minority of Henry IV and the investiture controversy that it starts to go wrong and central power starts to devolve.
The HRE also had a higher dynastic turn-over rate than England and France, which led to the elected kingship staying relevant in the HRE while it lost meaning in England and France. I hope I'm getting the argument from the "History of the Germans" podcast right, the elected kingship ended in a situation where the dynasties that held the title (but especially the Habsburg) were more invested in expanding the family domains than in re-centralising power in the HRE (I hope I got that right, I need to get back to that podcast).
France, yes. Since both France and Germany sprung out of the declining Carolingian empire and had to reorganize themselves. But England was basically just Mercia annexing the other kingdoms and got centralized pretty early iirc.
@@Siegbert85Not really Mercia enjoyed a period of power over other Anglo-Saxon kingdoms but it was still incredibly decentralized.
Then Mercia itself of course gets absorbed by Wessex after the Viking invasion completely cripples Mercia.
It also wasn’t any more centralized than any other feudal kingdom. With revolts against the house of Wessex being comnon in the North especially
Can anyone explain the connection between Bohemia as a time and place and the word we use today to describe an offbeat nonconforming lifestyle?
Ah yes! Bavaria, where the trees are made of wood.
Aschaffenburg is pronounced Ah-shah-fenn-boorgh - Servus! from precisely there!^^
I live in the region that's the oldest part of Bavaria today, and oh boy, are people here smug about that ;D
If you want some 30 years war content I can recommend SandRhoman History. Their channel is full of that stuff and since they're Swiss this topic is near and dear to them.
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