As a kid , me and my friends made slings from the tongues of old shoes, and cords from anywhere. I got to be a fair hand with a sling , and I think I may try my old hands on one again.
That's actually a great idea. I just so happen to have some very old shoes I was going to throw away soon enough anyway. Might as well use them for parts!
I was aware of them in 5 or6grade.. Nobody around to figure s*** out like that. I figured my dad didn't know about them because he used to work on jet engines So he decided to build one and put 11 on 1 side of the bicycle , I'm 55 now and making my 1st one
That’s always been my go-to method. I started making slings when I was in the army back in the sixties, and more recently I made a large-sized one to sling tennis balls for the dogs… They loved it. If you punch two holes in each end of your leather pouch, and put the cord through both, when you tighten them up it makes a natural pouch that works quite well.
Cheap, compact, and deadly. It's basically the ancient handgun. It's underrated as a weapon, as it has cheap, reusable ammunition, requires little training, and can be quickly made from common materials. The bow might be more deadly, but the sling is a very accessible weapon that doesn't require a lot of time or resources.
Its probably more deadly than a bow, the projectile from a sling moves much faster and can go further. But it actually requires more training than a bow to achieve battle proficiency, so i hear.
@@jasonjohnson6938yeah but the levies don’t need training because there is so many of them. Similarily to the inaccurate muskets they’ll hit somebody if they all fire at the same time
When I was 8 years old, a cousin introduced me to the shepherd's sling. I got good enough that I could hit an 8 inch diameter target at 20 paces fairly consistent, but my cousin was absolutely amazing with it. He could put his shots into a 3 inch diameter bullseye consistently. I remember watching him put 15 shots consecutively on target before we quit for ice cream. Anyone know if there is a Guinness World Record for shepherd slinging?
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I live in an area of mostly sand and clay but recently they have been doing street renovation and have hauled in beautiful stone which I pick up for my slingshot. I always wanted tolearn the sling so now I shall drive my wife crazy with pockets full of 70 gm stones. Spring is in the air. Now to find an old sign. Thanks Tod. I'm a 70 yr old kid again.
You may already know about this, but since you mentioned quick and dirty it's possible to make a perfectly functional sling with nothing but a single piece of string. You just tie a dogshank knot in the middle which creates your pouch and then do your knot and loop in the ends like normal. The nice part is you can just untie it and you still have a useful length of uncut string.
It's a little hard to do the dimensions right though-especially when you do it the first time around. Eventually, I just realized that a nice flat ribbon with a hole in the middle sufficed quite well as a sling.
Most under rated ancient weapon of all. Imagine 500 peasant levies armed with these, having used them since childhood, concentrating their fire on a 10 yard stretch of the enemy line at about 10 shots a minute. I have the loop on the opposite side of the middle finger, it feels more natural.
@Ken Chalk, It's not underrated by the slightest bit. There's a perfectly good reason why bow was the primary ranged weapon since the dawn of age for all nation's militaries and civilian (hunting) use. Second most used ranged weapon would be the javelin, but still far behind the bow, and still far ahead of the sling. Slings take huge amount of training and are still significantly less precise and deadly then bows, crossbows or javelins. The advantage of a sling is that it's extremely cheap to make, both weapon and ammunition. Slingers were on the battlefield usually because the armies couldn't afford other kind of weapons, otherwise each of the slingers would be equipped with a bow - which were much more costly to produce.
@@floatingchimney it would be as effective a volley weapon against troop formations as the bow and the level of skill required would take very little time to acquire compared to a longbow. It would outrange a Javelin by 100 yards. I'm not claiming it was better or more effective, just that it is underrated and not given the credit that was undoubtedly due to it, probably because it has been dismissed as a primitive weapon suitable only for peasant conscripts.
@@greenjack1959l Your last part sums it up completely and explains it all - "because it has been dismissed as a primitive weapon suitable only for peasant conscripts." Except it wasn't dismissed - it was a in fact a poor man's weapon. Trust me, it's not underrated. It's rated perfectly fine as it should be. Slingers were usually poor people who couldn't afford shields and swords and body armor. To say a sling would be equally as effective as the bow even as a "volley" weapon is ridiculous. I'm not talking about the longbow, I'm talking about a standard bow and arrow used throughout history. Sling outrange a javelin by 100 yards? Yes - except that you can't even hit the side of barn with a sling at 100 yards, let alone a soldier on the battlefield. Not to mention the energy loss of a projectile at that distance. At long ranges the sling is useless. The shape of sling projectile tumbles through air instead of being stable and diverges completely from original path as it flies through air - arrows and javelins are stable all the way through flight. A slingshot at 100 yards is the same as if someone is throwing a rock at you directly at 25 yards - It wouldn't do shit. A javelin was a heavy weapon - it would pierce human flesh and armor at any range due to it conserving kinetic energy better. Arrows the same, an arrow could pierce human flesh and armor at 5 yards as well as 150 yards. My conclusion: It is NOT underrated.
@@floatingchimney"can't hit shit." Based on your own experience perhaps? I don't know what that experience is, but from mine I have found that I can easily drop an egg sized pebble into a ten yard circle at around 80 yards, and I am a mediocre shot at best, and as a volley weapon against lines or files of troops advancing in formation that skill level would be adequate to punch holes in the enemy line. As for it having no power, I would challenge you to stand down range and try to catch those projectiles. The Roman military doctors were trained in how to remove lead sling shots that had entered the body in the manner of modern small arms ammunition. The slings giant killing reputation is well deserved.
@@greenjack1959l Lead sling projectiles you talk about were few and few among the VAST majority of slingers who used plain stones. Lead projectiles were somewhat more effective than stones as they were heavier and had noticeably less air resistance due to it being smaller. They were however more likely to tumble in the air due to their shape e.g. even less precise that rounded stones.
If anyone's trying this for the first time, remember the shot travels at right angles to the radius of the circle you're swinging it in, so swinging anti-clockwise, release at 3 o'clock to hit at 12 o'clock - a quarter of a circle before your strings line up with your target.
SmevMev i just throw it over hand like a baseball or underhand. I dont Spin to release. I spin to generate G force and suck the projectile into the pouch and feel the weight. When the pouch is behind my head i swing forward and across my chest and step forward like im pitching a fast ball in the major leagues with a 6 foot arm...
Thank you, very interesting and I will certainly make a leather sling When we were kids back in the 60s we made what we called ‘throwing arrows’. These were longish home made arrows propelled by a piece of string with a knot tied in the end. The string was wrapped around the arrow beneath the flights and passed over the knot. The string was then pulled out straight and tight and gripped along with the arrow behind arrow point. The arrow was then launched by releasing the arrow and keeping hold of the string. We used to accurately throw the arrows a distance of over 100 yards.
No material is needed in the pouch of your paracord sling-the loop grips the stone perfectly fine. I didn't believe it until I tried it( I expected it was stupid & once I'd debunked it I was going to add leather for the pouch), having seen UA-cam tutorials on braiding open loop slings, but I've never had a stone fall through or slip! You can sling anything that the loop can cradle up to quite big rocks. Braiding a loop sling is a very ancient design & you can make one in the field with just a knife to strip the outer layer from bramble stems (having trimmed the thorns off first) & using 6 lengths to then braid a sling. No other tools or materials necessary. You can make them from many strings & twines, like paracord, though more traditional hemp/cotton/linen/wool etc looks really ancient & authentic. I'd always tell anyone starting to learn slinging to wear a helmet of some kind-even just a hard hat- as when I 1st started, a little too often I'd sling a stone I think, "where the hell did that go?". Then, "Thud!", the stone would land just beside me having gone straight up! How I never brained myself I don't know.
not needed but leather has the tendency to wear better than linen, cotton, wool, wood, etc. Not necissary but it could potentially save you many hours of work if you sling alot.
Loved the 'nasty' para-cord one. First time I've seen that. Easy to make, got all the tools and materials, and easy to replace if you need another. Yes... you'd be embarrassed if someone saw you. but the fun factor will still be there. Anyway - I have black para-cord... not as bad as day-glo orange
Thanks you Tod for the cool crafting video. Your knowledge is always appreciated. As a leathercrafter, I just wanted to mention that the approximately 11.6 mm leather used for the pouch for the second sling, is known/listed here in the States as 3 - 4 oz. leather. 3 - 4 oz. leather has a thickness of 1.2 - 1.6 mm.
Been a few years since I was slingin it. I definitely found it better for me to throw as you did in an under hand direction instead of over head. Smooth rocks throw more accurate and with less noise than jagged edge rocks. Round large marbles throw accurate but have a tendency to roll out of the pouch more easily. Saw one guy use Quickrete and formed somewhat uniform balls. Pouch definitely needs to be flat and not concave as it tends to hold onto the stone and make for less accuracy. Duct tape is everyone's friend.
Hi Tod, thanks for this video! Today I tried to make myself a medieval style sling following your instructions. I used a piece of leather (about 2mm thick) and cotton string. I had to braid the string, because it was too thin. After I finished my work, I went for a walk in the forest with my dog and tried my first shots. And it works surprisingly fine! I started with pinecones (for safety reasons) but they don't fly very well. So I collected some rocks on the forest road and they did a much better job. I thought the sling was much more difficult to handle but it's quite easy - I mean aiming is a big challenge but the basic usage is really simple. There's only one minor drawback: the cotton loop partly rubbed the skin off my finger after several shots. Next time I'll use a glove ;-) Best regards
For awhile, while I was in the US Army, I had a job that was 20-minutes of work followed by 3-hours of sitting around...normally in the woods. So, I'd tinker with these slings when I could, and I actually got pretty good at it. I once wove a sling just from paracord, and then I made a lot once I found leatherworking.
I was around 4-ish years old when I first saw a sling, in an old school DOS RPG. I've since then been a bit fascinated by it. I think I will try to make one in the future. Thanks for the video.
Interesting. I usually have the loop on little finger and hold the retention cord across the palm. I bought one of Tod’s slings years ago and had to adjust the release knot’s position by retying it further down to suit my style. All his knots were beautifully tied, particularly the retention loop.
Dad used make my slings and sling shots back in the day i had one with a cloth pouch and used to launch pretty big stones out in the bush when we camped out back in the 80,s
There was talk in WWII for using slings to extend grenade range. Unfortunately it was found that too much skill was needed fir ab accurate shot at long range and fuzing was a safety issue.
@@gordonlawrence4749 I think you may have been right, there may have been talk or even attempts to use slings for this purpose in WWI - I'm just pointing out where that idea came from. Staff slings were definitely used to fling what amounted to overweight molotov cocktails over city walls.
Very nice. Your design on the second is very nice. I’ve made a few slings, different types. Woven pouch in the Egyptian style is prettiest . My favourite type lately is the two strips of leather for the pouch with a plaited cord to avoid knotting.
I made one of these slings just because I had some paracord and duct tape lying around. I looped both ends and use it as 1. a sling, 2. a bow stringer, and 3. attaching my shipping tube quiver to my belt. Thanks for the idea!
My cousin and I used to make these when we were teenagers. I remember taking a rock, spinning it up & throwing it completely over the interstate Highway, from behind the fence then over entire interstate & the fence on other side of the Interstate! I'm not sure how far it was? Its longer than the distance of the bridge crossing over from one side to the other!
We would use our school ties as slings, without ever having been taught about them. I suppose some childish intuition made us think of it. It wasn't until many years later I became interested again and realised their potential.
Great video, clear and concise. I'll have to whip up a leather one! Lots of empty pasture next to my house this time of year so I have alot of space to practice on! Would like seeing more videos on slings as well!
Whenever I go to a creek or beach I look to see if I can see a mouldy tube sock in the water. I just rip it down both ends and put a loop in one side then lob stones into the water so the gaffa tape one doesn't seem that bad. (A mouldy tube sock works surprisingly well as a sling, they are that simple)
If you've got a charity shop nearby take a look at the shoes. If you can find anything with a moccasin/boat shoe design you'll be able to get a suitable piece of leather from the tongue - and it might be a bit softened. Just a thought.
Tod i know this one your older videos now now and enjoy meticulous attention to detail and i he thing thing that you make ani enjoy watching you craftsmanship you put into all your stuff...
I am so glad that such a simple tool as the sling, in Canada I call it the 'Assault style shoelace", such a simple estension of the arm, am so glad I amde one for a friend to make excuse for us to get out and be men.... my God, what power that cord has, 400 yd bullet rocks, and the control, with a leg length and heavy stone, you feel the TREBUCHET your arm IS... the POWER... oh yes, I usually have one wrapped on wrist and a couple stones in pocket to ground me and when Goliath sized problems make one feel powerless, that assault style shoelace.... can take down that giant! Thanks for your work, Tod. Thanks for being cool. Thanks for teaching basic man stuff, we all grew up such..... sure is great to always remember how to be dangerous, eh?
So right I was just out for a walk, then suddenly this rock comes flying towards me and cracks me dead on the head. After seeing this video I now know why
As a young lad in the 70's we used to hunt for old work boots and use the tongue. I got a good telling off from my farther when he got a new pair as he hadn't broke in his new ones properly. Good fun with simple things back then. Thanks for reminding me.
I like to just do two rounds releasing on the second round. It is more relative to a normal throw without the sling which makes timing the release easier. No matter how fast I throw the rock there is no release timing problem. With 24 inch long cords there is no problem getting the rock to make a richochete noise especially when it hits something to make it spin faster. It sounds like a bullet on an old cowboy movie.
need that sling staff covered.those are so hard to find historical info on.and considering they are hand held trebuchets,I'd guess they had a significant use up til the invention of gunpowder or crossbows.be nice to get history on em,and see what they are capable of.
I've always gotten the best accuracy and distance from a single rotation. Lots of spinning around makes for a weaker shot and it's more difficult to get your release timing right.
Lol brilliant! Thanks for the video Todd..I'm gonna try mine with painters canvas (floor covering for dripping paint off of walls )and see what kind of results I get
I made a sling on a lark while walking my dog with paracord and a random slip of leather from a thrift store. I use it for throwing balls for my dog to fetch.
I was under the impression that squash balls make good practice ammo. If they go straight up they don't hurt coming back down. Horizontal it depends on how close you are etc. because they can be traveling at more than terminal velocity leaving the sling.
Thanks for the video. (Regarding throwing technique) "Is there any difference? - that's what I would use for accuracy." I think there are some differences, and that one's not particularly accurate (though maybe for you if you're more comfortable with it.) So far as accuracy, I think the only difference is that if you release late with overhand sling you hit the ground short of your target, if you release late with underhand sling you lob up over target, if you release late with horizontal sling you might hit your buddy off to the right or left. But there are more differences. If you release overhand, you're effectively a bit taller, and if the range is fairly short you'll actually be raining direct fire down from above against an enemy of the same height on level ground. Kind of a neat trick you can't do with a bow of any kind. Also the less winding up you can do the better. Ideally it's one smooth motion with a smooth release and no tension. Spinning it up faster isn't likely to add much power but it sure makes accuracy a problem. Anyhow, I haven't used one in years but you brought back some great memories and inspired me to go buy some cord. Cheers!
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Hi Tod, I don't know why, but each launch you did with the second sling (white cords) seems to be more precise. Is that right? In this video, it is easier to follow the trajectory of each shot and thus, I believe, correct it towards the target. Am I wrong? Btw many thanks for the helpful teachings🙏
Awesome! I was thinking about using duct tape instead of leather. And I had totally forgotten about the slits - that's a great way to do it. What would be the easiest/cheapest way to make uniform projectiles? I'm thinking casting concrete in some reusable form(Ping-Pong balls?) or cutting uniform lengths of rebar for denser projectiles.
I made a sling years ago. I used a piece of deer hide that I hunted and some paracord. One morning there was a small pile of stones on the back porch. My dog found most of the stones I slung and brought them back. Lol.
I don’t have the resources but I would like to see a dear leather or kangaroo leather to see the difference in the skin toughness also love the videos thank you for trying for historical accuracy
Good video. I think I'll make one of those leather ones. After watching this video and your last video about slings, I've been wondering why they weren't used more. Why not have every infantryman carry a sling and throw a rock or two before melee combat? I also wonder how effective slingers would be against plate armour compared to longbows. All the contemporary sources seem to always say that longbows could easily pierce any armour, but all the tests I've seen seem to fail (or the arrow penetrates something like 1/8" and the narrator says 'Wow! the arrow penetrated the armour and killed the knight!'). But the longbows must have been at least partially effective against armour, otherwise why go through the trouble of using them against armour? Why not just use slingers?
Hmm I vaguely recall this subject coming up specifically about the Battle of Agincourt in a video on scholagladiatoria where Matt Easton and Tobias Capwell discussed this (main subject of the video was a helmet, not sure if it was an antique or replica). It was probably one of the following two videos: ua-cam.com/video/ukvlZcxNAVY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/yewwhjUYEPQ/v-deo.html But about the use of slingers? I'm guessing for battle usage formations and shields have something to do with it, it's a pretty long string spinning around so you'd need space for it. And if you'd normally use a shield with your primary weapon for efficient sling operation a large shield on your left arm wouldn't be ideal. As for how effective it'd be? I guess it might not have been worth it when mail, helmets and shields became pretty common in warfare.
It is said that the Spanish Conquistadors suffered dents in their armour, and that Aztec slingstones could kill even helmeted soldiers. At the battle of Najeera, Froissart mentions bascinets being dented from an extended range. Slings are viable against armour, the problem is pretty much one of skill and experience. Good Slingers are hard to find, and most armies of the High/Late medieval period rarely recruited from amongst the Serf population (Which includes Shepherds). Against your average novice-level slinger, a plate-armoured knight probably won't have much to fear. Against people like Luis Pons Livermore, who can throw stones of about 150-200 grams at velocities approaching 50 m/s, a Plate-armoured knight is going to have a bad day. Large-enough slingstones don't feel like glancing all that much, and large-enough slingstones don't really care about the shape of a given surface of metal (Both of which pointed projectiles do). What a knight would want is a Jupon. Against slingstones, soft coverings over hard armour are your best defence. Overall though, if you are going to be facing knights with stones, you might want to opt for a Staff-sling instead of a hand sling. Whilst the velocity of said stone might go slower from a Staff-sling, you must also consider that you can throw objects of about 500 grams to a kilogram from a staff-sling.
@@tods_workshop I made a sling and am practicing with it, but my strings always tangle (the pouch turns and twists the string) and I wanted to ask what I am doing wrong and how to solve it. Thanks a lot
heya Tod,... try making one with thick rubber bands like you would find on a proper wrist mounted slingshot, i made one when i was young and stupid that would stretch from about 600mm to over 2meters with a 3rd of a brick as projectile,.... you wouldn't believe the distance
As a kid , me and my friends made slings from the tongues of old shoes, and cords from anywhere. I got to be a fair hand with a sling , and I think I may try my old hands on one again.
That's actually a great idea. I just so happen to have some very old shoes I was going to throw away soon enough anyway. Might as well use them for parts!
I was aware of them in 5 or6grade.. Nobody around to figure s*** out like that. I figured my dad didn't know about them because he used to work on jet engines So he decided to build one and put 11 on 1 side of the bicycle , I'm 55 now and making my 1st one
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That’s always been my go-to method. I started making slings when I was in the army back in the sixties, and more recently I made a large-sized one to sling tennis balls for the dogs… They loved it.
If you punch two holes in each end of your leather pouch, and put the cord through both, when you tighten them up it makes a natural pouch that works quite well.
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A sling that could break the bone of a Roman Legionary is a weapon
@@bizybliztaverage9414 nobody said otherwise
@@bizybliztaverage9414 I found the guy who can't read
Cheap, compact, and deadly. It's basically the ancient handgun. It's underrated as a weapon, as it has cheap, reusable ammunition, requires little training, and can be quickly made from common materials. The bow might be more deadly, but the sling is a very accessible weapon that doesn't require a lot of time or resources.
Little training but MUCH practice.
The reps are what get most people
This is probably why in places like the near east they are used against the authorities, in times of trouble.
Its probably more deadly than a bow, the projectile from a sling moves much faster and can go further. But it actually requires more training than a bow to achieve battle proficiency, so i hear.
@@jasonjohnson6938yeah but the levies don’t need training because there is so many of them. Similarily to the inaccurate muskets they’ll hit somebody if they all fire at the same time
More like a mortar with how it was used.
When I was 8 years old, a cousin introduced me to the shepherd's sling. I got good enough that I could hit an 8 inch diameter target at 20 paces fairly consistent, but my cousin was absolutely amazing with it. He could put his shots into a 3 inch diameter bullseye consistently. I remember watching him put 15 shots consecutively on target before we quit for ice cream. Anyone know if there is a Guinness World Record for shepherd slinging?
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Toilet paper you say I wish people would sling it to my house can’t but the shit
It's a pleasure to listen to someone jump back and forth easily between metric and imperial units, and not fall into a childish pissing contest.
@phuc ewe pshhh, that's child's play. it would be measured in furlongs xD
I’m afraid that all it means is that Tod is old enough to have been taught Imperial in school.
As a Canadian I too am trapped in the purgatory between imperial and metric
@Sub Optimal but how many FOOTBALL FIELDS is that for the Americans watching? lol
Tons of cooling.
I live in an area of mostly sand and clay but recently they have been doing street renovation and have hauled in beautiful stone which I pick up for my slingshot. I always wanted tolearn the sling so now I shall drive my wife crazy with pockets full of 70 gm stones. Spring is in the air. Now to find an old sign. Thanks Tod. I'm a 70 yr old kid again.
Tod is like the Bob Ross of weapon crsfting... " just experiment around, you know, just to see what happens" XD
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How is he like bob ross there nothing alike
@@d-drizzle not by looking or by painting... but in his way of presenting something. a soft enthusiastic joy in every detail. Thats why.
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You may already know about this, but since you mentioned quick and dirty it's possible to make a perfectly functional sling with nothing but a single piece of string. You just tie a dogshank knot in the middle which creates your pouch and then do your knot and loop in the ends like normal. The nice part is you can just untie it and you still have a useful length of uncut string.
It's a little hard to do the dimensions right though-especially when you do it the first time around.
Eventually, I just realized that a nice flat ribbon with a hole in the middle sufficed quite well as a sling.
Most under rated ancient weapon of all. Imagine 500 peasant levies armed with these, having used them since childhood, concentrating their fire on a 10 yard stretch of the enemy line at about 10 shots a minute. I have the loop on the opposite side of the middle finger, it feels more natural.
@Ken Chalk, It's not underrated by the slightest bit.
There's a perfectly good reason why bow was the primary ranged weapon since the dawn of age for all nation's militaries and civilian (hunting) use. Second most used ranged weapon would be the javelin, but still far behind the bow, and still far ahead of the sling.
Slings take huge amount of training and are still significantly less precise and deadly then bows, crossbows or javelins. The advantage of a sling is that it's extremely cheap to make, both weapon and ammunition. Slingers were on the battlefield usually because the armies couldn't afford other kind of weapons, otherwise each of the slingers would be equipped with a bow - which were much more costly to produce.
@@floatingchimney it would be as effective a volley weapon against troop formations as the bow and the level of skill required would take very little time to acquire compared to a longbow. It would outrange a Javelin by 100 yards. I'm not claiming it was better or more effective, just that it is underrated and not given the credit that was undoubtedly due to it, probably because it has been dismissed as a primitive weapon suitable only for peasant conscripts.
@@greenjack1959l Your last part sums it up completely and explains it all - "because it has been dismissed as a primitive weapon suitable only for peasant conscripts."
Except it wasn't dismissed - it was a in fact a poor man's weapon. Trust me, it's not underrated. It's rated perfectly fine as it should be.
Slingers were usually poor people who couldn't afford shields and swords and body armor.
To say a sling would be equally as effective as the bow even as a "volley" weapon is ridiculous.
I'm not talking about the longbow, I'm talking about a standard bow and arrow used throughout history.
Sling outrange a javelin by 100 yards? Yes - except that you can't even hit the side of barn with a sling at 100 yards, let alone a soldier on the battlefield. Not to mention the energy loss of a projectile at that distance. At long ranges the sling is useless. The shape of sling projectile tumbles through air instead of being stable and diverges completely from original path as it flies through air - arrows and javelins are stable all the way through flight.
A slingshot at 100 yards is the same as if someone is throwing a rock at you directly at 25 yards - It wouldn't do shit.
A javelin was a heavy weapon - it would pierce human flesh and armor at any range due to it conserving kinetic energy better.
Arrows the same, an arrow could pierce human flesh and armor at 5 yards as well as 150 yards.
My conclusion: It is NOT underrated.
@@floatingchimney"can't hit shit." Based on your own experience perhaps? I don't know what that experience is, but from mine I have found that I can easily drop an egg sized pebble into a ten yard circle at around 80 yards, and I am a mediocre shot at best, and as a volley weapon against lines or files of troops advancing in formation that skill level would be adequate to punch holes in the enemy line. As for it having no power, I would challenge you to stand down range and try to catch those projectiles. The Roman military doctors were trained in how to remove lead sling shots that had entered the body in the manner of modern small arms ammunition. The slings giant killing reputation is well deserved.
@@greenjack1959l Lead sling projectiles you talk about were few and few among the VAST majority of slingers who used plain stones.
Lead projectiles were somewhat more effective than stones as they were heavier and had noticeably less air resistance due to it being smaller. They were however more likely to tumble in the air due to their shape e.g. even less precise that rounded stones.
If anyone's trying this for the first time, remember the shot travels at right angles to the radius of the circle you're swinging it in, so swinging anti-clockwise, release at 3 o'clock to hit at 12 o'clock - a quarter of a circle before your strings line up with your target.
SmevMev i just throw it over hand like a baseball or underhand. I dont
Spin to release. I spin to generate G force and suck the projectile into the pouch and feel the weight. When the pouch is behind my head i swing forward and across my chest and step forward like im pitching a fast ball in the major leagues with a 6 foot arm...
You can find more information about the sling in this site www.slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl
that were super helpful, thanks a lot
i can now experiment with shooting sideways XD
Thank you, very interesting and I will certainly make a leather sling
When we were kids back in the 60s we made what we called ‘throwing arrows’. These were longish home made arrows propelled by a piece of string with a knot tied in the end. The string was wrapped around the arrow beneath the flights and passed over the knot. The string was then pulled out straight and tight and gripped along with the arrow behind arrow point. The arrow was then launched by releasing the arrow and keeping hold of the string. We used to accurately throw the arrows a distance of over 100 yards.
We called these dutch arrows, and its basically a rudimentary atlatl
I think the term for these is polynesian arrow
There are a lot of terms. I refer to them as pathfinding arrows.
No material is needed in the pouch of your paracord sling-the loop grips the stone perfectly fine. I didn't believe it until I tried it( I expected it was stupid & once I'd debunked it I was going to add leather for the pouch), having seen UA-cam tutorials on braiding open loop slings, but I've never had a stone fall through or slip! You can sling anything that the loop can cradle up to quite big rocks. Braiding a loop sling is a very ancient design & you can make one in the field with just a knife to strip the outer layer from bramble stems (having trimmed the thorns off first) & using 6 lengths to then braid a sling. No other tools or materials necessary. You can make them from many strings & twines, like paracord, though more traditional hemp/cotton/linen/wool etc looks really ancient & authentic.
I'd always tell anyone starting to learn slinging to wear a helmet of some kind-even just a hard hat- as when I 1st started, a little too often I'd sling a stone I think, "where the hell did that go?". Then, "Thud!", the stone would land just beside me having gone straight up! How I never brained myself I don't know.
not needed but leather has the tendency to wear better than linen, cotton, wool, wood, etc. Not necissary but it could potentially save you many hours of work if you sling alot.
I can't get along with open loop slings. They're too choosy with the ammo.
Loved the 'nasty' para-cord one. First time I've seen that.
Easy to make, got all the tools and materials, and easy to replace if you need another.
Yes... you'd be embarrassed if someone saw you. but the fun factor will still be there.
Anyway - I have black para-cord... not as bad as day-glo orange
I practice with acorns. they're easy to find and sort of consistent in size and shape. they pack a wallop.
Sadly where I'm from acorns don't get that big.
Thanks you Tod for the cool crafting video. Your knowledge is always appreciated. As a leathercrafter, I just wanted to mention that the approximately 11.6 mm leather used for the pouch for the second sling, is known/listed here in the States as 3 - 4 oz. leather. 3 - 4 oz. leather has a thickness of 1.2 - 1.6 mm.
Been a few years since I was slingin it. I definitely found it better for me to throw as you did in an under hand direction instead of over head. Smooth rocks throw more accurate and with less noise than jagged edge rocks. Round large marbles throw accurate but have a tendency to roll out of the pouch more easily. Saw one guy use Quickrete and formed somewhat uniform balls. Pouch definitely needs to be flat and not concave as it tends to hold onto the stone and make for less accuracy. Duct tape is everyone's friend.
Hi Tod, thanks for this video! Today I tried to make myself a medieval style sling following your instructions. I used a piece of leather (about 2mm thick) and cotton string. I had to braid the string, because it was too thin. After I finished my work, I went for a walk in the forest with my dog and tried my first shots. And it works surprisingly fine! I started with pinecones (for safety reasons) but they don't fly very well. So I collected some rocks on the forest road and they did a much better job. I thought the sling was much more difficult to handle but it's quite easy - I mean aiming is a big challenge but the basic usage is really simple. There's only one minor drawback: the cotton loop partly rubbed the skin off my finger after several shots. Next time I'll use a glove ;-)
Best regards
For awhile, while I was in the US Army, I had a job that was 20-minutes of work followed by 3-hours of sitting around...normally in the woods. So, I'd tinker with these slings when I could, and I actually got pretty good at it.
I once wove a sling just from paracord, and then I made a lot once I found leatherworking.
I was around 4-ish years old when I first saw a sling, in an old school DOS RPG. I've since then been a bit fascinated by it. I think I will try to make one in the future. Thanks for the video.
Interesting. I usually have the loop on little finger and hold the retention cord across the palm. I bought one of Tod’s slings years ago and had to adjust the release knot’s position by retying it further down to suit my style. All his knots were beautifully tied, particularly the retention loop.
Dad used make my slings and sling shots back in the day i had one with a cloth pouch and used to launch pretty big stones out in the bush when we camped out back in the 80,s
That sounds lovely
"Casual throw, 100-120 meters" O_O
You can find more information about the sling in this site www.slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl
There was talk in WWII for using slings to extend grenade range. Unfortunately it was found that too much skill was needed fir ab accurate shot at long range and fuzing was a safety issue.
@@gordonlawrence4749 A bit earlier in history, when grenades were a bit more primitive, the staff sling was the best way to deliver them.
@@laughingdaffodils5450 hat may be where they got the idea from.
@@gordonlawrence4749 I think you may have been right, there may have been talk or even attempts to use slings for this purpose in WWI - I'm just pointing out where that idea came from. Staff slings were definitely used to fling what amounted to overweight molotov cocktails over city walls.
I made one as a kid with a piece of rubber inner tube and had lots of fun with it. May have to try again.
Its surprising how fast your accuracy develops... as accurate as a 22lr at 30 meters, after an hour. Great sportmsnship hunting grouse with a sling😊
Just for the info on leather thickness:
1/64" 1 oz
so 1/16" = 4/64" 4 oz
.... What’s that in metric?
@@carstenwjensen 0.04 cm
BGHearns Thanks mate
@@carstenwjensen
1/64 in is 0,4mm
1/16 in is 1,59mm
:-)
Very nice.
Your design on the second is very nice.
I’ve made a few slings, different types. Woven pouch in the Egyptian style is prettiest .
My favourite type lately is the two strips of leather for the pouch with a plaited cord to avoid knotting.
I made one of these slings just because I had some paracord and duct tape lying around. I looped both ends and use it as 1. a sling, 2. a bow stringer, and 3. attaching my shipping tube quiver to my belt.
Thanks for the idea!
My cousin and I used to make these when we were teenagers.
I remember taking a rock, spinning it up & throwing it completely over the interstate Highway, from behind the fence then over entire interstate & the fence on other side of the Interstate! I'm not sure how far it was? Its longer than the distance of the bridge crossing over from one side to the other!
We would use our school ties as slings, without ever having been taught about them. I suppose some childish intuition made us think of it. It wasn't until many years later I became interested again and realised their potential.
Great video, clear and concise. I'll have to whip up a leather one! Lots of empty pasture next to my house this time of year so I have alot of space to practice on! Would like seeing more videos on slings as well!
Goliath: **Why do I hear boss music**
Whenever I go to a creek or beach I look to see if I can see a mouldy tube sock in the water. I just rip it down both ends and put a loop in one side then lob stones into the water so the gaffa tape one doesn't seem that bad. (A mouldy tube sock works surprisingly well as a sling, they are that simple)
I really enjoyed this, easy crafting of a useful tool. Thank you!
There is SO much room to science this...
Anyone else fancy sciencing this?
The gaffer tape version is what I am more likely to make.
Good video.
If you've got a charity shop nearby take a look at the shoes.
If you can find anything with a moccasin/boat shoe design you'll be able to get a suitable piece of leather from the tongue - and it might be a bit softened.
Just a thought.
Tod i know this one your older videos now now and enjoy meticulous attention to detail and i he thing thing that you make ani enjoy watching you craftsmanship you put into all your stuff...
Nice. If you're doing more throwing weapons how about having a go at the Roman Plumbata, I'd love to see what a decent replica can do.
Todd has made a plumbata video.
I am so glad that such a simple tool as the sling, in Canada I call it the 'Assault style shoelace", such a simple estension of the arm, am so glad I amde one for a friend to make excuse for us to get out and be men.... my God, what power that cord has, 400 yd bullet rocks, and the control, with a leg length and heavy stone, you feel the TREBUCHET your arm IS... the POWER... oh yes, I usually have one wrapped on wrist and a couple stones in pocket to ground me and when Goliath sized problems make one feel powerless, that assault style shoelace.... can take down that giant! Thanks for your work, Tod. Thanks for being cool. Thanks for teaching basic man stuff, we all grew up such..... sure is great to always remember how to be dangerous, eh?
Yoo, I’m not making a sling, but this just helped me figure out how to finish building my nephew a (mini mind you) trebuchet. Thanks chap
So right I was just out for a walk, then suddenly this rock comes flying towards me and cracks me dead on the head. After seeing this video I now know why
I thought it was Hard but it's easy because of you thanks and keep making videos please
As a young lad in the 70's we used to hunt for old work boots and use the tongue. I got a good telling off from my farther when he got a new pair as he hadn't broke in his new ones properly.
Good fun with simple things back then.
Thanks for reminding me.
Thank you for Sharing . Awesome video !
I like to just do two rounds releasing on the second round. It is more relative to a normal throw without the sling which makes timing the release easier. No matter how fast I throw the rock there is no release timing problem. With 24 inch long cords there is no problem getting the rock to make a richochete noise especially when it hits something to make it spin faster. It sounds like a bullet on an old cowboy movie.
Bro! That was so cool! He made it super easy to understand, and yes gaffer tape will survive longer then anyone us lol
need that sling staff covered.those are so hard to find historical info on.and considering they are hand held trebuchets,I'd guess they had a significant use up til the invention of gunpowder or crossbows.be nice to get history on em,and see what they are capable of.
I've always gotten the best accuracy and distance from a single rotation. Lots of spinning around makes for a weaker shot and it's more difficult to get your release timing right.
Me too.
I go two, sometimes three ,mostly two.
I do agree with you point about excessive spinning around
Impressive how fast you can shoot with these ancient technology.
Just noticed that you have a studded archer's maul listed on your website. I'd be interested in seeing a video on how you made it.
Lol brilliant! Thanks for the video Todd..I'm gonna try mine with painters canvas (floor covering for dripping paint off of walls )and see what kind of results I get
I made a sling on a lark while walking my dog with paracord and a random slip of leather from a thrift store. I use it for throwing balls for my dog to fetch.
Im gonna try this with snowballs! Great video by the way
I was under the impression that squash balls make good practice ammo. If they go straight up they don't hurt coming back down. Horizontal it depends on how close you are etc. because they can be traveling at more than terminal velocity leaving the sling.
I have made these with leather and bicycle handles never this way! Thank you
Thanks for the video.
(Regarding throwing technique) "Is there any difference? - that's what I would use for accuracy." I think there are some differences, and that one's not particularly accurate (though maybe for you if you're more comfortable with it.) So far as accuracy, I think the only difference is that if you release late with overhand sling you hit the ground short of your target, if you release late with underhand sling you lob up over target, if you release late with horizontal sling you might hit your buddy off to the right or left. But there are more differences.
If you release overhand, you're effectively a bit taller, and if the range is fairly short you'll actually be raining direct fire down from above against an enemy of the same height on level ground. Kind of a neat trick you can't do with a bow of any kind. Also the less winding up you can do the better. Ideally it's one smooth motion with a smooth release and no tension. Spinning it up faster isn't likely to add much power but it sure makes accuracy a problem.
Anyhow, I haven't used one in years but you brought back some great memories and inspired me to go buy some cord.
Cheers!
Was going to subscribe after this came up on my search for amazing things my 12 yr old Son and I can do, but apparently I've already subscribed...
Great video!!!!!
Hi Tod, I don't know why, but each launch you did with the second sling (white cords) seems to be more precise. Is that right? In this video, it is easier to follow the trajectory of each shot and thus, I believe, correct it towards the target. Am I wrong? Btw many thanks for the helpful teachings🙏
I like this guy, and I like what he’s about.
Erasers are excellent for practice!
Old dog lead leather works well as a ribbon overlap style pouch
Awesome! I was thinking about using duct tape instead of leather. And I had totally forgotten about the slits - that's a great way to do it. What would be the easiest/cheapest way to make uniform projectiles? I'm thinking casting concrete in some reusable form(Ping-Pong balls?) or cutting uniform lengths of rebar for denser projectiles.
Clay is a traditional and easy method to make good ammo, concrete can work too though.
12:43 i feel we're missing the noise of a greenhouse smashing and a cat yowl.
Tod, please make a tutorial on efficient making of wooden fletchings. I would really love to go from feathers to wood on my bolts 🙏🙏🙏
I made a sling years ago. I used a piece of deer hide that I hunted and some paracord. One morning there was a small pile of stones on the back porch. My dog found most of the stones I slung and brought them back. Lol.
Ever made a Balearic style sling? They're world famous for the weapon and still made in the traditional style to this day.
Definitely reconsidering David's sling. In David and Goliath
Enfin ! Voilà enfin réhabilitée cette méconnue, la fronde !
Amazing. Me and the kids are going to make some now 😊
I'm inspired - I gotta try this . Thx for posting
The tape sling made my rock fall off and nice leather sling
Pls Show a Video on shields. Manly how to Mount the straps and the piece of gambeson that makes it more comfortable to hold
100 points for the gorhic 2 picture!
So satisfying.
A good improvised weapon.
idk why he keeps introducting himself he is a legend
Pouches are a bit big IMO. Top to bottom doesn’t need to be longer than the diameter of the projectile. A thinner pouch swings around better as well.
Surprisingly good weapon for the apocalypse.
And for the EU election.
It's brilliant in Neo Scavenger.
Great How-to and then Do a sling. Thanks.
Yet another amazingly clever use of duct tape! Love me some duct tape. Thanks ever so much for the tutorial!
Works Great, Thanks!
This dude is awesome
Realy interesting to see. Thanks for the nice video. How about a sling staff? I saw some contamporary pictures of that.
1:12 Paracord and gaffer tape sling
6:16 Jute twine and leather sling
12:10 How to use
Wtf is paramord?
Jake Kennedy autocorrect seems to think such thing exists
Putting a diamond shaped hole in the center of the pouch helps hold the stone more securely .
Thanks, I’ll try it on mine
I think the sling is a pretty advanced weapon for the time they were used. Or at least a very clever one.
If it's simple and works well, it is clever
Gonna need another pocket now!🤩
I don’t have the resources but I would like to see a dear leather or kangaroo leather to see the difference in the skin toughness also love the videos thank you for trying for historical accuracy
Golf balls make excellent ammo. Consistent size and weight, and easy to see where they went!
Too light
Good video. I think I'll make one of those leather ones. After watching this video and your last video about slings, I've been wondering why they weren't used more. Why not have every infantryman carry a sling and throw a rock or two before melee combat? I also wonder how effective slingers would be against plate armour compared to longbows. All the contemporary sources seem to always say that longbows could easily pierce any armour, but all the tests I've seen seem to fail (or the arrow penetrates something like 1/8" and the narrator says 'Wow! the arrow penetrated the armour and killed the knight!'). But the longbows must have been at least partially effective against armour, otherwise why go through the trouble of using them against armour? Why not just use slingers?
Hmm I vaguely recall this subject coming up specifically about the Battle of Agincourt in a video on scholagladiatoria where Matt Easton and Tobias Capwell discussed this (main subject of the video was a helmet, not sure if it was an antique or replica). It was probably one of the following two videos:
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But about the use of slingers? I'm guessing for battle usage formations and shields have something to do with it, it's a pretty long string spinning around so you'd need space for it. And if you'd normally use a shield with your primary weapon for efficient sling operation a large shield on your left arm wouldn't be ideal. As for how effective it'd be? I guess it might not have been worth it when mail, helmets and shields became pretty common in warfare.
It is said that the Spanish Conquistadors suffered dents in their armour, and that Aztec slingstones could kill even helmeted soldiers. At the battle of Najeera, Froissart mentions bascinets being dented from an extended range.
Slings are viable against armour, the problem is pretty much one of skill and experience. Good Slingers are hard to find, and most armies of the High/Late medieval period rarely recruited from amongst the Serf population (Which includes Shepherds). Against your average novice-level slinger, a plate-armoured knight probably won't have much to fear. Against people like Luis Pons Livermore, who can throw stones of about 150-200 grams at velocities approaching 50 m/s, a Plate-armoured knight is going to have a bad day. Large-enough slingstones don't feel like glancing all that much, and large-enough slingstones don't really care about the shape of a given surface of metal (Both of which pointed projectiles do). What a knight would want is a Jupon. Against slingstones, soft coverings over hard armour are your best defence.
Overall though, if you are going to be facing knights with stones, you might want to opt for a Staff-sling instead of a hand sling. Whilst the velocity of said stone might go slower from a Staff-sling, you must also consider that you can throw objects of about 500 grams to a kilogram from a staff-sling.
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I made a sling and am practicing with it, but my strings always tangle (the pouch turns and twists the string) and I wanted to ask what I am doing wrong and how to solve it.
Thanks a lot
I made one at about 12, used champagne corks as ammo and it was great
Looks like fun
Is there much of a risk of hitting ones self while slinging around? Never done it but I kind of want to give it a go.
Yep, liked it. Thanks mate!
Great use of materials/ 😎 😎
i used 3 leather strips, 2 knoted together to make an aye shape in the middle. withe the third string i made a basket out of the aye shaped section.
This guy has a max Weaponsmithing trade skill in New World
The first sling isnt flat the cord is higher thus creating a pouch a very subtle pounch but thats what you want.
I wonder of the elasticity of the parachord would add to/reduce the force of the projectile versus a leather or wool cord.
heya Tod,... try making one with thick rubber bands like you would find on a proper wrist mounted slingshot, i made one when i was young and stupid that would stretch from about 600mm to over 2meters with a 3rd of a brick as projectile,.... you wouldn't believe the distance
these slings can really move a rather large rock down a centre line very easily, first time practically
I like to make a loop that fits around my wrist. There is no way to inadvertently throw the sling with the rock, yet the sling can easily be removed.