How Were Prefabricated Blocks of Flats Built - Cities: Skylines - Altengrad 65
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Building a new concrete prefab residential estate and explaining how were these buildings assembled and what were some problems.
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Altengrad is a time-progression Cities: Skylines series where I build a Central European city, located until 1989 in the Eastern Bloc, taking inspiration from Germany, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary. The series starts around the year 1920 and slowly advances forward in time, which means the city will naturally evolve all the way to modern times. The city is not a recreation of any one real-life city or country, but it takes inspiration from them.
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Information about sources:
My primary sources are in Czech and Slovak, because I understand it and I can easily borrow books, search theses, articles or old TV programmes. This gives me information about Czechoslovakia. After learning or confirming something, I search whether or not it's applicable to also East Germany, Poland and Hungary through online articles or videos, but also sometimes English books that I can see through library access. Although some sources pop up from those other countries first. I don't research the Soviet Union and other Eastern Bloc countries, since that is not where the series is from. I also don't focus on political theory but rather the reality.
Major sources:
Books and magazines:
(I) "Paneláci 1,2" (Prefabs, parts 1 and 2)
(II) "Když se utopie stane skutečností" (When utopia becomes the reality)
(III) "Architektura ČSR" (Architecture of CSR, issue 16, 1957)
(IV) "Stavba" (Structure, issue 7, 2000)
(V) "Komplexní regenerace nosné konstrukce panelových domů stavební soustavy BANKS : severočeská varianta" (Complex regeneration of load-bearing structure of panel houses of system BANKS: North Bohemian variant)
(VI) "Šedesátá léta v architektuře očima pamětníků" (Sixties in architecture through the eyes of the witnesses)
TV and video:
(VII) Archive of the Czech/Czechoslovak TV (various programmes, news clips or shows from relevant periods)
(VIII) Various UA-cam videos after searching "Plattenbau" and "Wielka Plyta" (Germany, Poland)
Other:
(IX) Browsing Google Maps and Streetview
(X) Museum visits, attending historical exhibitions or lectures
(XI) Own experience and education in material and civil engineering
(XII) Looking at various historical photos, for example among others from pastvu.com
#citiesskylines #altengrad
The amount of detail in this build is insane
It is crazier when you are sitting in just a type of house he is explaining the construction process of!
I 3d modeled my flat once and many parts he mentioned were noticeable.
The fact you had to actually model a section of the prefabs in a modeling software just so that you could perfectly show what you were talking about in the script makes me think this episode is one you've been extremely excited for.
Congratulations on making it into the top cityskylines builds of 2022!
This series is incredible! The amount of details, the storytelling, the city really feels organic and real. Bravo, my man.
My uncle lived in a prefab building from 1970s. When he was replacing windows, the workers discovered an entire section of a wall made of vodka bottles. The builders sold an entire prefab section and used some leftover cement to replace it with bottles.
edit: also there are no 90° angles in that building. EVERY wall is somewhat slanting
That quantity of vodka bottles probably has some correlation with the square issues.
So happy to see altengrad again, especially now that it's half of the release schedule
Absolutely loving this "mini series" of Prefrabricates/Concretes
I was waiting from this video since your first one about prefabrication. Thanks. Hopefully you can do more about it.
i've really loved the historical/engineering context you've been providing in the altengrad series! can't wait for the next one.
I live in a prefabricated apartment block in Fyllingsdalen, Norway, built in 1971. It's really interesting to hear you talk about how they were built, and I recognize some of the problems you mention. Small gaps have appeared in the joints between the modules, and I can sometimes feel a breeze if it's really windy outside. Fortunately, my top floor apartment has a gable roof, so there are no problems with leakage. Otherwise, the building feels really solid and everything is still straight here.
I really like this format of focusing on a specific part of the city's construction while teaching us about its history in the process. Keep it up and welcome back!
Never have I thought I'd watch a lecture on prefab buildings and enjoy it!
Good to have you back Akruas, I've been missing Altengrad and I'll be happy to see more of it in the 2 weeks' time.
You can remove the Cities: Skylines part of the title, and it becomes a perfectly good history lesson of Prefab buildings! Really interesting to learn more about how these buildings were built
I grew up in a prefab building, and i still have many nearby. Itˋs just great to get remembered to this time, by watching your high detailed Video and listening to the explaining. The whole neighbourhood was build planed, thatˋs Shops are good to reach and central. Thank you for this high quality of your mix of explaining and build an expirince. :)
Awesome video, my grandpa was a construction manager in the 80s, and he "built" some prefab blocks in my town, my school is near the old prefabs factory that was supplying building sites in my area
24:11 looks just like real life. insane
This one hits home. My grandparents live in exactly that kind of a 5 story prefab
Would be really cool to see some of these prefab buildings in the center of the city. Maybe modified a little to remind of the old houses with for example the roofs and built on a much smaller scale. I’ve seen this in many places both in Lithuania and Poland.
Yes that is planned.
Since it's confirmed, I'm quite excited to see something like this, even though it'll definitely be.. controversial for the city.
I grew up in a prefab high rise in the 70s in the UK. Around the time that we were seeing reports on the news of poor quality high blocks collapsing in london...a tad scary
I love the little external cuts to show the structural designs
Je až neuveriteľné co dokážeš, sem tam ťa sledujem a to čo robíš je neskutočné... Detaily ktoré vytvaraš, vsuvky ktorými vysvetľujes čo robíš a ako to "fungovalo" a to nemyslim len v tomto videu. Držím ti palce, si veľmi šikovný v tom čo robíš a tvoja angličtina? Wau. Všetko dobre bratu. 😉👍
The panels were indeed used for industrial premises, but residential buildings were built from ready-made rooms. In my city you can find abandoned boxes, there are only two walls and a floor.
The apartment consists of a bedroom or two 1-2 boxes, toilet and bathroom has a partition but it is one design, the kitchen has three walls. Only five-story houses were built from panels, everything else was made from boxes. If you need I can help you find more information about it😊
Born in the former GDR and grew up in prefab blocks. You did a great job 🙏🏻👍🏻
The garages really reminded me "Svarta jump". If you made some reference, it would be amazing!
the tons of detail you put, it's impressive! thank you for your work!
Haha the Adam Something reference made me laugh
Yeah. Especially since AdamSomething rarely gets _anything_ right.
Altengrad is becoming lecture in architecture
Really nice! I hope some of those dirt piles stick around and become small neighbourhood hills
Thanks a lot for your efforts to explain the pref panel construction process at te building side.
I admire your video stick to the whole theme - very detailled and easy to follow. Educational content, once love to watch!
This is entertaining and informative
One of our teacher told us a weird story once. When she was a young adult and freshly married she moved into a flat in a prefab in East Germany. Her best friend already lived on the same building in the flat under hers. When she visited they noticed that her friends kitchen was smaller by quite a bit for whatever reason, even though they should have the exact same flat layout. Well, turns out the construction workers built an extra small room in which a concrete mixer was left for whatever reason.
That was probably a better explanation than I could give about precast panel buildings, and I am a structural engineer who designs them every day!
I love learning from these videos as I’m interested in cityplanning and architecture.
As a prefab buildings enthusiast this blew my mind. You explained it so beatifully like an engineer and showed it in C:S. You should have more recognition! This is incredible!!!!!!
EDIT: i live in one in Poland
Hey Akruas, I recently went on a trip to Prague and Slovakia, and seeing the cities was really cool because I noticed what you took inspiration from. Great build!
Well, this video is almost like a mini-documentary. Congrats!
Nice Build and Very Informative video as always Akruas. 👍
Thank you so much for explaining the procedure of prefab construction, as well as highlighting that they are by no means easy or unscrewable.
For anyone that wants to know more about what happens when pretty much every institution involved in building these prefabs messes up, I'd like to redirect you to this documentary:
ua-cam.com/video/Ch5VorymiL4/v-deo.html
This is so interesting and instructive, thanks a lot for all your work
They're actually elaborate & kind of high-end :D
There definitely were many problems with those prefabs but all of them can be extremely easily fixed. Prefab housing is something we should look into more, improve it and use it again.
Thanks for your great achitetural history lessons.
I love how those perfab walls are so... "unique". No 90 degrees angles, bulges, room's width may vary, and not to mention that the original windows were are threat every time we had stronger wind or rain.
17:58 nachází se i v Přerově na Jasinkově, sídliště Šířava.
a v Lipníku nad Bečvou jsou 4 jednovchodový
The prefab under construction looks absolutely insane
So so so excited for the new uploads! I love both of your cities! Super looking forward to continued uploads in the near future!
Will you make a Petržalka inspired neighborhood? Also,an area like this built on hills would be really cool,like Dlhé diely in Bratislava.
As usual, great video! But you forgot one thing in these apartments. Bathrooms 😀. They looked a little odd, big living rooms and corridors, but no bathrooms
Best CS series on YT ever is finally back!!
Great looking!
Ah the infamous garages, was waiting for them.
You should look closer at some Bloks in New Belgrade and maybe build something similar. Like Blok 23 or Bezanija bloks from 61 to 64.
Great looking build. Maybe another video idea would be a refurbishment of the prefabs way in the future 2010s when investment is picking up and trying to make them nice
You are a legend
Commenting for algorithm, love the channel!
A very nice Build👍.
I will admit, in one of the apartments my family owns that is on the last floor the roof leaked near the window, where as in another one, again on the last floor it did not. Both buildings were build roughly in the same time, same city. Yes there were problems, but I personally don't think that these blocks are bad. They are really sturdy, and for the most part well built. It can of course be a completely different story somewhere else, but in my own experience of owning 7 different flats in these blocks, we encountered a problem only once. They just have to be maintained well, and then they can last a lot.
And I will just add that we own a massive 100m^2 flat in an old military block, and I can confirm that these are the best built ones by far. No wall was out of square in that house, unlike others where they could vary up to 2cm along 3,5m of wall, which is not that bad.
Oh I don't thinl these are bad, but I think poor organization while building them can lead to problems such as the ones they mentioned. (Though honestly, bad organization for any construction project won't lead to a good product at all.)
Super satisfying love the build, what’s the next project?
Next thing we know is how he is furnishing those rooms and making citizens in character creation😂
This looks incredible.
Super interesing stuff, I've always been interested in prefab buildings in eastern europe and beyond, something about them I'm not sure what exactly.
I look at brutalist like architecture in the eastern bloc with disgust yet also intrigue.
As a CS player since release, I feel like I have found a series I am going to be watching from the start in place of looking for shows to watch on Netflix for the foreseeable future haha.
yeay, it's back!
Amazing how much this looks like places in England
yay!!! I was waiting for a new one sooo much
superbly done my Master ! :)
the construction site is awesome
"If room has at least one corner in right angle, it is good enough"
Great Video
one suggestion that you can do find some construction workers props so the construction site to look more alive
Amazing ! Learned a lot!
How in a hell the simple city building game become more accurate than real life architecture and construction works
learn more from your vids than i do from uni!
2:54 Přerov - Předmostí
~80. léta
Great video!
I live close to one of those areas and few things i noticed you are not including in your build. Most of the blocks/projects have like a square with services and grocery stores in the middle or next to a bigger road. Also all the smaller roads inside the block are full of parking spaces on the side.
The place is under construction, not everything is done. Parking spaces were added later in real life as number of cars increased.
Brilliant
that's why so many demolition happened on that kind of structure
should have added soviet republic music in the background
I think that in your past panel areas there are not enough playgrounds in the yards
Good knock against Adam Something XD
Very interesting.
Yaay, happy to see Altengrad again, almost went to old videos just becaused i missed it soo much. And actually i really hate commie blocks and sídliště as a whole, but are making it so interesting, im afraid that i will start to like them :Dd Great video :))
Prefabricated housing estates in Poland are better designed than contemporary housing estates built by private developers. There are all basic services, no need to drive anywhere. Almost everything within walking distance.
I live in panel house G57-OL in Olomouc, xD
Thank you for this video, i was waiting for it for so long. Also, could you please tell me which asset are the garages at 25:25 behind the building?
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2615993563
actually you shouldn't build high prefabricated houses because in that time they were only building khrushchevka (max 5 floors)
The high buildnigs was an updated high rise version, the brezhnevka, was built in the 1970s and 1980s , so thats a little mistake
This is not the Soviet Union.
I've been visiting a friend in Frankfurter allee in Berlin and I was thinking about you. Are the buildings that can be found close to Frankfurter Tur in Berlin prefabs ?
Probably not, more typical prefabricated houses are south of the Magdalenenstraße stop on Frankfurter allee
This guy is playing Sovet republic: workers and resources without Sovet republic: workers and resources
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Doing the thing
Altengrad for top city skylines builds in 2023,2024....
I wish PO would add better placement tools for large objects that you copy pasted. Lets say you just made an entire building out of 150 individual PO's, then you copy and paste it but you dont get the same tools as when you want to operate a single PO piece. It can be quite frustrating.
What is your opinion on cities skylines 2 ? Are you gonna continue with this serie or make new serie?
We will see after we get some more solid info.
Great video again! Great job. where do i find out what you use for the PO's stuff. i cant make out things at time what are you using. like the rail what did you use? i get lots of ideas but wish i knew what you used. thanks.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1991365285
@@Akruas thanks.
This is not a game anymore. This is complex city diorama tool. I just saw a guy building flat from concret blocks wtf.
Super no, zítra musím jít hledat spešl paneláky po Olomouci jelikož Akruas řekl to jsou experimentální a mají cool architektonické prvky či co. Nevíte někdo kde jsou?
třída Kosmonautů, u nádraží
Králíkárny :-)
"To muselo dát strašný práce. A přitom taková blbost."
Hello Akruas! I suppose you know that this year CS2 will be published. What would you like to see in new game? Do you have any wishes for new CS?
I just wish it's good, but I'll wait for more info.
5:58 what app did you use there?
Blender
prefabs have no right angles and no two walls are paralel. Ask me how i know