Has The Russian Kharkiv Offensive Been Succesful? | Chasiv Yar Microdistrict Collapse
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Kharkiv assault felt like a diversion in my opinion in order to divert Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk region, or maybe it was a recon mission to test Ukrainian defences in the North before they launch a full scale offensive.
Perhaps it was both a diversion and recon mission.
What assault? With what troops?
@@spinnakerthegreat2612 Kharkiv front got a few thousand troops
@@Otto_Von_Itter9000 post was talking about a « full scale offensive ». The russians do not have this capability. They would need 400-500k men to open a full northern front next to Kiev.
It was a diversion, that much is true. I think the real objective was to force the AFU to leave Odessa as unprotected as possible.
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Didn't know the Ghostbuster got the Ghost of Kiev in the containment unit. I always thought the Ghost of Kiev was hiding up Zelensky's azz, afraid to come out after the world knows the truth about him.
Denys and RFU already deemed the Russian front on Kharkiv a "failure" because the advance was halted. These clowns refuse to acknowledge that the AFU sacrificed every other front to stop that advance of 20k men. That front's objective wasn't even to take Kharkiv, but to thin out the rest of the fronts.
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Didn't AFU itself claim it's a distraction?
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Comming from a pro-Russian, I'm gonna try to be as objective as possible here. The Kharkiv offensive didn't really do much except taking a few villiages. It was i guess a test to see how quickly the Ukranians could reinforce new fronts to see how much time the Russians would have if they opened a new front. Maybe if the Russians captured Vovchansk it would be a diffrent story but for now it's really nothing special. I could write more but i don't have time right now, so yall can tell me your opinion in the replies
Agreed. It looked like a diversionary offensive.
It's propably to also check how good defense there is, and to force UAF to send forces to that region, this way making it easier to be offensive on other fronts. I think it's still too soon to say what's happening there and why, maybe the idea was in strategic success, results of which would need more time to be clear
I agree with you, their main goal probably was to test ukr readiness while at the same time spreading the enemy army as a bonus to relief Donetsk front, if the ukrainian forces performed worse than they did and as a result they captured Volchansk then maybe they'd raise their stakes. I don't see this offensive going any further for now, UA is still being able to hold unlike many were saying months ago when RF captured Avdeevka, for them to collapse the West should completely give up on them, and i don't believe they will. This conflict can endure for years.
Opportunity to move in and the new weapon getting diverted maybe the most strategical reasons...sumy and kharvik will become part of the buffer zone so time will tell
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Kharkov - I think you'll find Chasiv Yar, and Vuhledar are the true objectives - in which case its working as planned.
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@@chrissmith7669 They also said that about bakhmut and avdiivka
@@chrissmith7669 we will soon see whether you’re right when chasiv yar falls or doesnt..
it´s Ukraine tactical victory, they stopped russian advance, but it´s russian strategic victory, ukraine relocated lots of unit and techniques to Kharkiv region against russian light infantry
He answered in the title. You look whole front not just one point.
It's a disaster for Russia. Up until now they could lightly defend the border while Ukraine had to keep it garrisoned. Russia will have to divert far more resources than Ukraine to counter Ukraines ability to fire into Russia.
@@chrissmith7669Russia didn't relocate any units, they were fresh novice soldiers sent to open a dummy front that saw the abandonment of Ukrainian positions along the primary front...done, as always only for the panicked optics
It looks like strategic cope for you chris
@@chrissmith7669 Lol, still following the ISW? After their articles that the ukranian offensive was only failing because Putin wants to pretend to be winning and therefore they implied to be winning and therefore it caused the ukranian offensive became actually a failure? Just one of the examples, there is a lot more of crap they wrote. The US-based think tank ISW was constantly wrong in every positive development of the russian they claimed its a failure. They have lost all credibility over time, seems you haven't followed the events of the war and the announcements of ISW closely.
thanks for updates Weeb Union, this is an unbiased report. following you quit a time now.
Russia did the same thing in Zaporozhie right before Ukraine's 2023 offensive when it sent small forces to probe Ukraine's lines and took a few villages. Also remember reading that the USSR did the same in Kursk 1943, striking the Germans right before that attack. (watch the Soviet movie "Liberation" part 1 for a great dramatization of this).
Attacking a force that is about to attack you seems to throw off the timing of their offensive (making them go too early and messing up their rhythm). We all know how the 2023 offensive went so this may mean that Ukraine's upcoming attack on Belgorod will be yet another Ukie disaster. Not sure how many more disasters Ukraine can take in this war...
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Definitely a dramatization, but still a great watch
In the Kharkiv operation, Russia is gouging Ukraine's ability to respond to any strategic development on the ground. It had to be Kharkiv (instead of Sumy for example) because it's a major city so Ukraine will be forced to respond. Whereas for Sumy, it's not really a major city and is too far from one so Ukraine can just send piecemeal units to defend it.
Turns out Ukraine wasn't very ready, they barely have any strategic reserve and was forced to pull units from other sectors. This gave Russia the green light to activate the fronts everywhere, even in sectors previously thought to be dormant like Kupyansk and Kherson.
Trying to determine Russia's goal with a tunnel vision is misguided because there isn't any specific goal, at least in terms of territory. They launch offensive operations in every strategic direction and take whatever Ukraine fails to defend, undermining Ukraine's fighting capability in the meantime. That's the essence of Russia's military doctrine.
Thank you Weeb, great updates, and the beat goes on.
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There are pretty strong indicators that the Kharkov operation was intended to do two things: cause Ukrainian forces to respond, and fix them in a relatively vulnerable position where they can be struck by air and artillery attacks. I'd say it was mostly successful. They attacked with minimal forces, and essentially performed a movement to contact. Once in contact they stopped and dug in, and are now holding while their support elements engage. I think the plan was to completely occupy Volchansk and use the river as a defensive line, but the Ukrainians sacrificed a large number of troops to preserve that foothold so the Russians are okay with how things are going currently.
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The Kharkiv offensive is successful in the sense that it has exploited Ukraine's shortages in men and materiel by forcing them to divert defensive forces from the eastern front where real progress is being made. Its proximity to Kharkiv allows it to become a compelling pain point that Ukraine cannot ignore -- all Russia has to do is keep applying pressure here as and when it pleases to divert and attrite Ukrainian forces to relieve the pressure it is facing on the eastern front, while simultaneously putting an end to annoying and embarrassing cross-border incursions by the Ukrainians.
On another note... I wonder Vuhledar is such an enigma, having withstood all Russian attacks for 2 years. Are those residential flats really armageddon-proof?
Problem is salt mines there and massive tunnels system, natural defence lines. Tunnels are deep and even fabs will take a time to do any damage. Buildings on top not so important
Good onya Weeb, thank you
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The Russians are advancing at the almost the same pace on the frontline as there were before the Kharkiv offensive. Of course Ukraine has corruption but NO military in their right mind is going to build defenses RIGHT on the border with their enemy. It is normal to have a buffer zone. You talked a lot about the Russians buffer zone during the 2023 Ukrainian counter offensive. The first line of defense was right after Robotine. Also Your map still shows the massive Russian breakthrough in Kalynika even after there as been geo location videos of the Russian bombing that area yesterday. (Btw this comment is not to be offensive I respect your grind however theses are just some problems I have with your argument)
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Since when? 1945? They were able to take 1/5 of another country who was 1/10 the population and likely less than 1/10 the economy of themselves. That's like saying a 300 pound bodybuilder was able to give a 30 pound toddler a black eye. Hmmm, I guess that means GREAT in your books? If you aim low enough, you'll never be disappointed!
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It just beginning... now they need to fortify gains, strenghten logistic and continue.
Yes. Purpose of that offensive is not to take Harkiv, it is to force UA to redeploy his forses from east to Harkiv direction, to make defence of east tertories weaker.
Without knowing with certainty what RU's intentions are, it is a foolish question.
100% agree
It was most likely a strategic feint aimed at diverting troops from other, more important fronts, which, if true, was indeed a successful operating.
@@natureblank1401 это как в шахматах... когда ты нападаешь сразу две фигуры. если всу не перебрасывает резервы под Харьков, русские вводят свои резервы и развивают наступление. а если перебросят, то русские разовьют наступление на других фронтах. так что это даже не ошибка всу, это просто безвыходная ситуация. Точно также как всу вынудили русских отступить, сначала из-под Киева и Сум, а потом из Херсонской и Харьковской области.
Putin on May 17th: "As for what is happening in the Kharkiv direction. This is their (Ukraine's) fault because they shelled and continue, unfortunately, to shell residential neighbourhoods in the border areas, including Belgorod. Civilians are dying there. It's obvious. They are shooting directly at the city centre, at residential areas. And I said publicly that if this continues, we will be forced to create a security zone, a buffer zone. That is what we are doing."
Yeah looks like it failed according to Putin considering Belgorod is no safer from shelling than before the offensive
@@JFKisAFK1963 Вы когда-нибудь слышали о декларируемых и реальных целях?
About Russian offensive,the question is,what was it's goal?If the goal was to capture Kharkiv,then it failed,but if it's goal was just a diversion,it's succeeded. Personally,I think it was just a diversion and a way to keep Ukrainian high command on the edge...
Most likely a diversion disguised as an offensive given the fact that the Kharkiv front only got a few thousand soldiers leading the charge. As we've seen Ukraine panicked and sent soldiers from Kharkov and now the South is very much understaffed, even more-so than before.
But does this mean an attempt to take Odessa? I'm not sure considering the Russian fleet has sailed off to Cuba, you'd surely want naval support for such an offensive. So my guess is probably they're trying to speed up the grinding down of the Ukrainian military by making them panic and send a bunch of men in a hurry to a concentrated area.
Russia barely had 14k troops deployed for this "Khakov offensive" and relatively few tanks, obviously a diversion. Anyone serious about taking Khakov would needs few hundreds of thounsands men and huge amount of vehicles, which is not happening here.
Still talking about chasiv yar? Things ain’t going so great.
Long time where have you been lol
Diversion. Distraction. Deception.
About Kharkiv, Russia underestimated Ukrainian strength and thought they could capture cities like Lyptsi and Vovchansk in days with 10000 troops. But as we know that was not true. Battle of Vovchansk is another meat grinder and Lyptsi front is not moving, what I think original Russian goal was to establish a Buffer zone while also diverting troops from other fronts and also throw them in a state of Panic.
But soon, Ukraine sent over 40k troops and Russia realized that it is very tough to win over them with 10k troops and so they ceased any attempts to take Lyptsi or launch attack on other possible Northern front.
So I think we can conclude that Russia's offensive was successful in many ways but failed in establishing Buffer zone.
It was successful because Ukraine did panic and also sent many divisions from all across the front as we see the success Russia had in Kupiansk and Chasiv Yar fronts. On the Dnipro front too, Russia had entered Dachi, an island village on the Dnipro river. So on the main fronts Russia won and this became more like a diversion attack
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that's a text book feint attack.
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That was fast the city is large
The Russian army built several fortifications surrounding the city for long term stand this isn’t ending anytime soon
What about the landing at Yalta?
I don't think the goal of the Russian offensive was a diversion. It might be a secondary objective but not the primary objective. The primary immediate objective was to create a jump off point from where they could conduct a future large scale offensive on Kharkiv. For this year the focus will remain Donbass. Taking Donbass will be the goal for this year and at least half of next year. Once the second phase of Russian militarization is complete we will see larger big arrow offensives using the positions gained this year. Let's see.
Hardly a convincing buffer zone IMHO. Now I don’t know what the Russian objectives were but this doesn’t seem very clever atm
As a distraction strike yes
As a clear objective- no it’s been underwhelming
It is odd that the defenders (Ukraine) needed three times the force of the attackers(Russia). Usually is the other way around.
Not JOKING!!! Only question I have is who's face is on the map in the Starytaya area. Look in the red part where they are fighting in the newly formed line in the north, it kinda looks like 1/2 of Putins or someone else's face. Coincidence or sign...lol
I have a question: Last video I see some comments mentioned Lazerpig, is he one of the brain dead pro Ukr channel? I saw some of his videos in the recommendation but the videos are too long. If so, let me go laugh at him.
He threw a tantrum when a youtuber, known as "red effect," criticised his video on the T-14 Armata and called himself a ukrianian propagandist as well. I'd recommend watching red effects video on the subject since it's quite good.
He is a self-described NAFO Bro, so yeah.
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Maybe the purpose of the Kharkiv assault was to trample Ukrainian defenses before they could be finished, or force a shuffle so a front somewhere else - like Sumi - could be opened. Whatever it was, and whatever the reason for the current inactivity is, it was a success and accomplished much with little effort. That Russia has much more in the tank is agreed upon by all sides.
I guess only when the war is over we'll find out what they were thinking and when.
We all thought that this offensive would be significant, but I’m not sure if the Kharkiv offensive diverted enough forces to start a collapse on the eastern front. It seems like Russia is failing at gaining a large enough upper hand to end this war soon. I hope to be wrong
The question is this - Did the Kharkiv Offensive affect the future Russian Summer Offensive?
I dont think there will be a "summer offensive". Just the summer phase of current offensive.
Any chance of addressing Ukrainian logistics in this war. With Russian air superiority how come Ukrainians still have the possibility of supplying water, food, bullets and diesel to the soldiers in such a extended war front
because there are not enough aircraft in existence. since ww2 aircraft are getting more complex more expensive and there are less and less of those. also as long as you dont have heavy vehicles logistics gets way simpler. way less fuel way less ammo...
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Calling it "Khakiv offensive" is Extreamly misleading. "Khakiv front Reactivation" would be more correct. Wyatt from Defense Politics Asia (DPA) called it likely a diversion from the beginning. His overall analysis tends to be more correct than Weeb here.
In hindsight, it's pretty obvious to be a diversion since Russia barely deployed 14k troops in such a long frontline, and the use of tanks seems lacking compared to other fronts.
Russians are paying a very very heavy price for every bit of advance😮
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What will change? WHAT WILL CHANGE NOTHING This is a pointless war
War is meaningless from the viewer's point of view. It is apparently important for Russia to have influence over Ukraine. This is not the first Russian war in Ukraine in history.
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A pointless war that America started ! They don’t want Slavs to unite , they don’t want Africans to unite and they definitely don’t want Asians and Middle Easterns to unite ! See a pattern? This why America wants to keep the world divided
@@fonvizin5280Given that Ukraine came about after 1917, it is the first Russo Ukraine war.
@@natureblank1401Yes, Ukraine first appeared as a country in 1917. But this territory has always been disputed between Poland and Russia. Therefore, there have always been wars for the possession of Ukrainian lands
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Ukraine cant see its lost soils even in its dreams
If NATO really wants Ukraine to win it would have to at least send its Air Force.
Like how the Soviet Union sent its Air Force to Korean War disguised as North Korean and Chinese pilots.
Because nato knows it’s no match for Russia’s anti aircraft defence
@@Auzzzie82 Is that a joke? nato could neutralize Russian air defense fairly quickly
@@personsungafd-qr5yk And what happens when NATO try to take out that defense, killing Russian troops in the process?
Wars have been started over much less.
The Kharkiv operation had two prime objectives:
1) Force Ukranian artillery out of range of Belgorod.
2) To force Ukranian units to redeploy out of the Donbass.
In these two the operation was successful.
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Nope.
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It failed miserably…
Karkiv is no go area for Russia. They failed 2 yrs ago. They know very well
Putin admitted that Russia are losing 20,000 men a month. Add to that Ukraine did not have the arms and ammunition that only started to a arrive last week. Much of it goes longer distances and less prone to be trapped by radar and other electronic warfare weapons. Russia still have the manpower but they only have 25% of their armored vehicles left, 21% of their tanks and 11% of their artillery left. All are the last of the recycled decades old equipment. They lose more in a day then they can manufacture new and the old stock piles are finished. They are part of the numbers I just quoted. At best Russia will soon at best be able to dig in and begin a stalemate. But all these plans I just heard today are nonsense.
Russia have turned over every stone word wide for more but what there is they already took anything available. Any even from these sources is either not made by these countries or what is is made in small factories only designed to support a tiny market.
Putin never said that. C’mon Paul nor can we verify how many vehicles Russia has left.
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What Putin said was Ukraine lost 50k a month, and replaced 30k a month. He didn't say 20k, I guess due to the 20k difference Ukraine would be down someone somewhere decided he said Russia was losing 20k instead.
Where do you get such rubbish from?
Putin never said that , show the video LIAR
After someone else responded, I read your entire comment. Rofl, you must be a Ukrainian propagandist.
Russia only has 21% of their tanks left? Russia is producing almost 94% of the tanks they lose.
Russia only has 11% of the artillery they had? Russia produces over 3 times as many shells as the entire west, at a cost less than the west spends to produce theirs.
Cheap, quickly produced military equipment has been part of Russia's strategy (since Soviet Union days) for what they come out with and use since war of attrition is a large component of it's war strategy.
A ukraine unit claims it destroyed 7 su 35's last month. Only 2 can be confirmed as destroyed, one of the 7 being claimed is confirmed to be game footage (they are still trying that lol). Let's be generous, and give them all 7 anyway. From satellite images, it appears Russia can produce up to 38 a month if it wants. That would be a net result of +31 planes in favor of Russia if they had wanted to produce the max they could.
The Russian military is much stronger today, than it was the day it invaded Ukraine. Meanwhile Ukraine's manpower and western weapons are slowly being attrited away.
Hm, I doubt whether Kharkiv was truly the objective.
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