Exocet Attack on HMS Sheffield - Falklands War Documentary

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    Falklands War series:
    [1] Invasion of the Falklands • Argentina’s Shocking I...
    [2] Recapture of South Georgia • Britain's Incredible R...
    [3] Sinking of General Belgrano • Sinking of the General...
    [4] Attack on HMS Sheffield • Exocet Attack on HMS S...
    [5] Raid on Pebble island • Daring SAS Raid on Arg...
    [6] Battle for San Carlos - • Argentina's Aerial Ons...
    [7] Battle for Stanley - • Britain's Final Assaul...
    0:00 - Intro
    0:28 - Fabulous
    1:36 - Tactical Situation
    3:32 - The Raid Begins
    9:23 - Impact!
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    Sources for the Falklands War Series (so far):
    Max Hastings & Simon Jenkins, Battle for the Falklands
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    Martin Middlebrook, Operation Corporate
    Martin Middlebrook, Battle for the Malvinas
    Mike Norman, The Falklands War There and Back Again: The Story of Naval Party 8901
    Kenneth Privratsky, Logistics in the Falklands War
    Sandy Woodward, One Hundred Days
    Paul Brown, Abandon Ship
    Julian Thompson, No Picnic
    John Shields, Air Power in the Falklands Conflict
    Edward Hampshire, The Falklands Naval Campaign 1982
    Hugh McManners, Forgotten Voices of the Falklands
    Cedric Delves, Across an Angry Sea: The SAS in the Falklands War
    Rowland White, Vulcan 607
    Vernon Bogdanor, The Falklands War 1982 lecture • The Falklands War, 198...
    Arthur Gavshon, The sinking of the belgrano archive.org/details/sinkingof...
    Gordon Smith, Battle Atlas of the Falklands War 1982 by Land, Sea and Air
    www.naval-history.net/NAVAL198...
    Hansard- api.parliament.uk/historic-ha...
    Recording of Thatcher's statement to the commons is from • Falklands Invasion
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  • @historigraph
    @historigraph  2 роки тому +46

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    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 2 роки тому +3

      Feedback:
      Although this video is great, it still feels incomplete:
      1. How did the jets return to Argentina?
      Did they have enough fuel, or did they have to refuel on their way back, too?
      2. Did the pilots earn any medals from Argentina?
      3. Did those five men who died because they refused to abandon their stations get any medals?
      4. What were the consequences for the captain and the senior officers?
      You said the captain of the Glasgow had prohibited the use of that communications rig - I assumed that was to set the stage for a court marshal, or at least a new fleet-wide rule.
      Also, those men not being at their stations, surely they didn't just get off with zero career consequences??
      Overall, a GREAT video, but the end seemed very abrupt, and the story still unfinished :)

    • @barrydysert2974
      @barrydysert2974 2 роки тому

      That tip for those working from home about taking a five minute walk is Fabulous! Thank you !:-)
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    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 2 роки тому +4

      You should consider using Google Translate to hear the correct pronunciation of foreign words. It's Etendard, but you say En-tend-ard. Since you say it multiple times, it gets a little annoying.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 2 роки тому +1

      @@adrien5834
      In fact, he says "in-ten-dart" 😅
      (the first time, at least; at 2:36 he says "in-ten-thars," and at 2:49 it's "in-ten-dars" - I think that's literally every option covered, lol)
      But yeah, it totally threw me for a loop the first time, too 😆
      I actually had to rewind multiple times, but still didn't really get it....
      Luckily, the Subtitles were written out, so that helps people who want to Google the plane - _really_ cool that he makes that extra effort! 😃👍🏼
      (the auto-generated subs, by contrast, think he says "nintendos" at 2:49😂👌🏼)

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 2 роки тому

      @@MrNicoJac I mean, I did like the video. I didn't mean to sound too acerbic...

  • @troo_6656
    @troo_6656 2 роки тому +1941

    I can't even begin to imagine the frustration and dread at HMS Glasgow when their sister ship isn't doing anything to prevent iminent danger.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 2 роки тому +74

      Even more so was they "confirmed" 4 kills when all they got was well 2.
      Lost contact after engagement = confirmed kill

    • @imking1630
      @imking1630 2 роки тому +50

      What happened with the second missile? There is no reference in the video, it just disappears from radar.

    • @acomingextinction
      @acomingextinction 2 роки тому +155

      @@imking1630 It's not entirely certain because unsurprisingly, the crew of Sheffield were similarly garbage at tracking that situation. It probably missed the Sheffield and splashed down half a mile away. Pure luck that the ship didn't get hit a second time.

    • @frostyrobot7689
      @frostyrobot7689 2 роки тому +48

      There's a really good summary of the engagement at the start of Sandy Woodward's memoir "One Hundred Days". He goes in to a bit more detail on what was happening in HMS Glasgow's Ops Room.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 роки тому +55

      @@imking1630 is ran out of propellant and was seen ditching into the sea. This was seen visually by some RN crewmembers. Iirc its documented in a ships log.

  • @TheOperationsRoom
    @TheOperationsRoom 2 роки тому +948

    10:11 The way you present complex information in the form of infographics is second to none

    • @historigraph
      @historigraph  2 роки тому +114

      Thanks so much mate- means a lot

    • @iminovsky
      @iminovsky 2 роки тому +53

      You two should consider doing collab videos -- love both of your work!

    • @crystallineentity
      @crystallineentity 2 роки тому +27

      High praise from the Ops room right there, I love both your channels

    • @markingraham4892
      @markingraham4892 Рік тому

      It's fake. Sheffield sunk days later when a tug rammed it.

  • @KibuFox
    @KibuFox Рік тому +335

    As Sheffield burned, the men in the lifeboats began to band together. While British ships were close by, many of the young sailors were starting to panic. Reportedly, one of the officers started singing "Look on the Bright Side of Life" from the movie "Life of Brian", and before long had the entire surviving crew singing along. This helped raise morale and spirits of the survivors, and is regarded as one of the smartest decisions made that day.

    • @rebelgaming1.5.14
      @rebelgaming1.5.14 Рік тому +34

      Monty Python to the rescue, as per usual

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Рік тому +29

      One of the smartest decisions made that day, but the bar wasn't set very high previously 😂

    • @knowstitches7958
      @knowstitches7958 10 місяців тому

      Nonsense,do have any recordings or were yoy provided with any,NO but parroting British lies and copium of a disastrous war,thanks to US and Chile the later bombed Argentine air field to prevent a massacre..

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 8 місяців тому +5

      As a Yank, I’ve always admired the British armed forces for their tenacity and dry sense of humor.

    • @helloxyz
      @helloxyz 6 місяців тому +2

      Yup, I heard this at the time from survivors.

  • @casematecardinal
    @casematecardinal Рік тому +403

    Damn, those pilots had balls. They rushed headlong into what could have been almost certain death with no support or escort and waited till the last possible moment to maximize effectiveness of their weapons. It may be textbook in a way to get as close as possible but its easier said than done. And thats why you never underestimate your enemy because they are very capable of putting a hole in you if you font respect their ability to and willingness to be bold.

    • @elorejano81
      @elorejano81 Рік тому +9

      Ciertamente .es como llegar a tu casa y ver a tu familia amenazada no te va a interesar tu integridad para con los demás obviamente !!!

    • @lucasnormanschneider5190
      @lucasnormanschneider5190 Рік тому +19

      I agree witj you but there's something alse should be mention that is that Argentinean belibed for wot they were fighting.

    • @buscador3933
      @buscador3933 Рік тому +2

      Tampoco los aviones tenían radares

    • @georgebishop4941
      @georgebishop4941 Рік тому +8

      ​@@buscador3933 Sí, lo hicieron. eso dice en el video

    • @regarded9702
      @regarded9702 Рік тому +1

      ​@@capitandelespacio2 you should start believing in your economy instead, god knows it needs it

  • @Werrf1
    @Werrf1 Рік тому +95

    Props to the Argentine pilots, this was pretty much a perfect textbook attack.

    • @bzipoli
      @bzipoli 8 місяців тому +10

      on a pretty much suicide mission. look how many antiair ships were there
      thats crazy

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis 8 місяців тому

      The Brits should have made sure that the Argentinian Airforce was destroyed

    • @marceloocchiuzzo9444
      @marceloocchiuzzo9444 7 місяців тому +2

      Gracias, desde la Patagonia. Muchas gracias

    • @grahamwilliams7114
      @grahamwilliams7114 7 місяців тому

      And they paid for it

    • @Lt.Gruber
      @Lt.Gruber 7 місяців тому +12

      The Argentinian Navy aviation and airforce caught the Royal Navy with their pants down a few times, flying questionably suicidal missions in outdated aircraft yet still sent ship after ship to the bottom of the Atlantic. Nothing short of miraculous and heroic.
      Argentina deserves to be proud of its pilots who did the best they could with what they had against an enemy who is superior in every way.

  • @vinloy23
    @vinloy23 10 місяців тому +10

    Brilliant. The Super Etendard-Exocet combo is deadly for navies.

    • @mikearmstrong8483
      @mikearmstrong8483 10 місяців тому

      If your navy hasn't upgraded in 40 years, and your enemy's navy hasn't upgraded in 40 years, then yeah, sure.

  • @aaronjohn6586
    @aaronjohn6586 2 роки тому +482

    Regardless of what happened to the Sheffield and why. The 2 Argentina pilots are to be credited with the daring boldness of their attack. They used their equipment to its full capability, maximized their skill set and attacked. They truly lived the credo "fortune favors the brave."

    • @paulhodgetts1803
      @paulhodgetts1803 Рік тому

      Yeah, it was only British soldiers and sailors burning to death. Knob

    • @karlshaner2453
      @karlshaner2453 Рік тому +11

      Nah, they were chicken and blind. They wanted bigger fish, and settled for a guppy.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 Рік тому +22

      The two naval pilots had rehearsed the attack a number of times in war games with their own Type 42 destroyers. Some of the simulated attacks were carried out with naval Tracker aircraft.

    • @karlshaner2453
      @karlshaner2453 Рік тому +8

      @@michaelhearn3052 War favors the bold.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 Рік тому +2

      @@karlshaner2453 true. But they got lucky!

  • @danielnavarro537
    @danielnavarro537 Рік тому +69

    The fact the Argentinians went below to about 50 feet above sea just to use the earth’s curvature fascinates me. I never knew the earth’s curvature could be use in such a manner. I wonder if other aerial operations of other wars used this tactic too. I find it interesting and amazing that the earth’s curvature could be use to hide oneself from the enemy. Very fascinating. Overall very well made video. Godspeed to those who perished during the Falkland War.
    🇫🇰 🇬🇧 🇦🇷

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +8

      Its a really common tactic.
      Its why no one really cares much about Hypersonics nowadays, as long as you have harpoons that can glide along the curvature of the earth with minimal issues.

    • @eugeneoreilly9356
      @eugeneoreilly9356 Рік тому +8

      Common tactic.However the Argentine aircraft had to climb above the horizon to allow them to acquire the target.The bearing and range to the target allowed the missile to be launched.This according to the pilot took between one and two minutes,and after launch the aircraft dropped below the horizon while executing a 180 degree turn.The Exocet missile has an active seeker guidance system that switches on after launch to search for the target and home onto it.A ship won't out manouver it once launched.The only possible defence is,shootdown which is difficult,jamming or decoy.

    • @EE-ve3vh
      @EE-ve3vh Рік тому +5

      Thats why North Korea has studied this war and started producing Argentine Pucaras....

    • @matiasfpm
      @matiasfpm 10 місяців тому

      ​@@EE-ve3vh.... what?
      Never heard about that

    • @claudiotepedino5753
      @claudiotepedino5753 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@matiasfpmbecause is not true

  • @poxiplu1095
    @poxiplu1095 Рік тому +42

    Excellent video, very well done and entertaining. With just 5 exocets, the argentinian naval air force proved the enormous skills and bravery of their pilots. Sinking two majors british ships (HMS Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor), if argentinian forces would have more exocets the outcome of the war could have changed. Another thing to note is that France not only refused to give Argentina the other 9 they should have give them, the french also refused to teach the argentinians how to operate them, so argentinians had to figure out how to do it in very short time. That was also very remarkable. I'm argentinian and I have to say that war sucks. But both sides fought bravely. RIP all the heroes that fought on both sides.

    • @mirandela777
      @mirandela777 5 місяців тому +2

      Worst, the 5 missiles were 4 in fact ( one was a dud, in this attack, crashed in the water) and the Argentinian Air Force have ZERO maintenance / spare parts for most of the fighters ( US embargo since 1976) and the french not even installed the targeting modules for the exocet ! They refused, and they refused to service the fighters, also. Argentina was forced to adapt and improvise, and they only had FOUR working missiles...

  • @josepablolunasanchez1283
    @josepablolunasanchez1283 Рік тому +81

    Amazinly upon returning to Argentina, Argentine soldiers and pilots felt more respected by the Brits than by teir own people. For people it was the same reaction of losing a soccer game. But only veterans know the deep sadness that rests in a battlefield. This is why all veterans from any country, have my respect, especially if they are conscripts.

    • @elorejano81
      @elorejano81 Рік тому +2

      Si Inglaterra perdía iva ser lo mismo además en el país estaban bajo una dictadura militar financiada x EEUU fue todontriangulado para q esa guerra se diera no fue tan al azahar !!!

    • @claudiojaviertajan1024
      @claudiojaviertajan1024 Рік тому +3

      Coincido soy aargentino y en esa epoca hubo muchos desa0arecidos x las tonterias de ee.uu de desaparecer a kos comunistas en sa epoca aqui si se valora a los veteranos de mavinas

    • @tuff9486
      @tuff9486 Рік тому

      @@claudiojaviertajan1024 No eran tonterias. Los hijos de mil puta de los comunistas plantaban bombas en mi Tucuman. Ponian bombas en jardines, en autos y no les importaba si moria gente inocente. Y si el ejercito no hacia nada, Argentina seria como cuba.

    • @Toxic2T
      @Toxic2T Рік тому +1

      You can thank the left wing terrorism for turning the people against the army for imposing order on the 'dictatorship'(Aka Proceso de Reorganizacion Nacional). That's why our soldiers got the nam treatment. Thankfully it's changing and Argentina is slowly letting the left wing die.

    • @20chocsaday
      @20chocsaday 5 місяців тому

      ​@@elorejano81
      It was not England. Britain is the country I am part of.
      Should our forces have come back alive but defeated our government would have fallen and then the next would have been forced to build better armed forces to win back the territory. Even if by then all the islanders had been evicted and replaced by Argentinians.
      Or not last very long.

  • @rainbowseeker5930
    @rainbowseeker5930 9 місяців тому +89

    No doubt the Argentinian Air Force was something to contend with, not only because of its size but mostly because of its daring and highly skilled pilots. I've always had the impression that the Brit Fleet somehow underestimated the danger the Argies' planes posed and later paid a high price for it. A lesson for future engagements.

    • @bzipoli
      @bzipoli 8 місяців тому +3

      not 300 fighters jets, the number includes all. but it was pretty big during the military regime yeah

    • @agustinlucchetti
      @agustinlucchetti 7 місяців тому +5

      small correction, most of the damage to the british fleet was done by the Navy Aviation (COAN), not the Air Force. The COAN that was specifically trained to perform these exact type of attacks. The Air Force was big in numbers, but had very limited ways of projecting power to the Islands, the planes simply lacked the range and equipment. That's why on paper the numbers greatly favor Argentina, but in reality there was never a favorable situation in the air combat for us, everything we could do was avoid detection by flying low, strike the naval assets and assets on the ground, and fly back. There was no realistic scenario where we could stand a fight with A4s that had no radars, no flares, and no MAW vs the Harriers.

    • @mirandela777
      @mirandela777 5 місяців тому +1

      What "size" ??? They only had 240 aircraft, most of them 30 yo +, many propeller fighters from ww2 era, and from those 240 ONLY 120 were available. Worst, they had no maintenance for them ( US embargo from 1976). Even Belgorod was a ww2 era cruiser, lol, 50 yo, and was killed by a brand new nuclear sub... Imagine that, an 1938 cruiser fighting a modern nuclear sub...

    • @rainbowseeker5930
      @rainbowseeker5930 5 місяців тому

      @@mirandela777 - "Many propeller fighters from WW2 era"...! Are you crazy or just plain ignorant ? Please tell us make and model of such imaginary "propeller fighters" ! Then, you switch to naval affairs (though I wrote about the AIR FORCE only) ! Then you talk about a "US embargo from 1976"....Dude, that embargo was imposed on the neighboring country of CHILE...not Argentina ! and so on...
      Moral: keep your mouth SHUT before writing novels or else better hit the books and get acquainted first with facts !

    • @20chocsaday
      @20chocsaday 5 місяців тому

      Everybody respected the ability and daring of those pilots, because they were Argentine.
      Once the fleet set sail I relaxed. Anyway, the man who told me it was about to kick off down there had found himself a job in Britain a month earlier.
      Mind you, hitting Sheffield surprised and annoyed me.

  • @phildurling7185
    @phildurling7185 2 роки тому +233

    The UK military learnt a lot from this conflict. Having being largely army focused due to the NI troubles no one thought that aluminium on warships or nylon uniforms for the ship's company would be a problem. Also putting the right personnel in the right positions. The captain of Sheffield, as I understand it, was a former submarine commander. This wasn't the only incident that lessons were learned from, there were others. In any conflict lessons are learnt quickly, early on. I don't think that it was just the fault of officers in command but also the designers and beaurocrats back in the UK ministry of defence. The bravery shown by both UK and Argentine military is without question.

    • @sichere
      @sichere Рік тому +3

      The Sheffield's role was primarily to counter the submarine threat and a former Submarine Commander was an appropriate candidate.

    • @docdr7199
      @docdr7199 Рік тому +21

      @@sichere Sheffield was a type 42 air warfare destroyer - not there primarily to counter the submarine threat. The Captain & First Lieutenant's skillsets were found wanting - according to the Board of Enquiry.

    • @sichere
      @sichere Рік тому +1

      @@docdr7199 Indeed but the role that they had at that time was to counter the very real Submarine threat, as an unsuccessful attack had already been made on the Task force and the Captain was not reprimanded.

    • @docdr7199
      @docdr7199 Рік тому +5

      @@sichere We disagree...

    • @sichere
      @sichere Рік тому +5

      @@docdr7199
      The Task force was attacked by ARA San Luis on the 1st May. ARA San Luis completed a five-week patrol unscathed. She staged several attacks on British warships but missed each time because of torpedo system malfunctions. Meanwhile, British ASW efforts against that single target proved futile. The British fired over 200 torpedoes at false contacts over the five weeks,
      You are correct but the bigger picture was that the RN were forced to operate their ships in ways they where not designed for, including defending the beachhead in San Carlos.
      Previous to the Falklands, Whitehall had assured the RN that the RAF had the ability to cover Naval operations.
      Also, initially Exocet missiles were not identified as Foe, due to the British fleet operated them too, so only defensive action could be taken at the time. After the attack on HMS Sheffield and the withdrawal of the Argentinian Navy, the computers were updated.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 роки тому +60

    4:13 Flat earthers will naturally make terrible pilots and navigators.

    • @historigraph
      @historigraph  2 роки тому +35

      One imagines they would get shot down *a lot*

    • @living2ndchildhood347
      @living2ndchildhood347 2 роки тому +1

      I’m a professional Marine Navigator. The Earth is not flat.

    • @ajay9429
      @ajay9429 2 роки тому

      @@living2ndchildhood347 tell this to muslims 😂🤣

  • @Seyhawk
    @Seyhawk 2 роки тому +95

    As a former destroyer sailor, this is an absolute nightmare. Great job as always on this video.

  • @rickm9244
    @rickm9244 2 роки тому +409

    Balls of steel from the pilots and sailors and the mercy of command failures. The task force failed at basic defense and the pilots took full advantage of the command failures. This is from someone living in the UK. The enemy pilots (from my point of view) were very brave as everything should have been against them.

    • @fasfas8999
      @fasfas8999 2 роки тому +10

      Exactly Sir !!!!

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 2 роки тому +44

      Yeah closing well within firing range of anti air destroyers that were part of a carrier task force requires balls big enough that I'm surprised the planes took off. Not only that but they thought they were attacking the aircraft carrier at first which they would have been aware had a screen protecting it.

    • @paulcardin6344
      @paulcardin6344 Рік тому +3

      I think when you're dealing death on behalf of a fascist Junta, the bravery can only be described as misplaced.

    • @82Pucara11
      @82Pucara11 Рік тому +4

      @@paulcardin6344 Wikipedia?

    • @PramurtoMukhopadhyay
      @PramurtoMukhopadhyay Рік тому

      @@paulcardin6344 God Save the Queen! Her fascist regime!

  • @herseem
    @herseem Рік тому +28

    "I suspect someone's been bloody careless" - from your account, that was a very prescient and perceptive comment given how little he knew of the details of the situation at the time.

    • @JFDA5458
      @JFDA5458 Рік тому +1

      British understatement at it' finest (the "bloody careless" comment)

  • @maxkennedy8075
    @maxkennedy8075 2 роки тому +112

    You can’t build a “cheap ship” If you reduce the monetary cost you’ll pay in sailor’s blood

    • @andrewholdaway813
      @andrewholdaway813 2 роки тому +32

      Also, get a competent captain.

    • @cjclark2002
      @cjclark2002 2 роки тому +3

      @@andrewholdaway813
      hard to believe those kinds of issues still exist isn’t it?

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 2 роки тому +1

      @@cjclark2002 I mean not really, humans are always humans and even though we try to make the military purely a professional thing based on merit that's hard in practice. Plus you never know when someone is just having a bad day, that's kinda the issue in war, it's almost impossible to keep alert 24/7 and humans are bad at judging risk. Also I think it's worth noting that the Admiral takes just as much blame here since he seemingly had the same careless attitude and didn't redirect the jets nor did he order the fleet to take proper precautions like not using satelite communications.

    • @LondonSteveLee
      @LondonSteveLee Рік тому

      Which we are doing again by skimping on weapons system for Type 45.

    • @petersummers5728
      @petersummers5728 Рік тому +1

      What about the sas in Argentine , observing all departures of combat aircraft? This was a cock up.

  • @iainmalcolm9583
    @iainmalcolm9583 2 роки тому +195

    Of course, most people in the UK (that are old enough) remember the Falklands War. However the detail you provide is fantastic. Learned things I didn't know.
    Currently the IWM channel (Imperial War Museum) are running a video series about the Falklands war. Worth checking out for anyone interested in learning about it.

    • @bobmiller7502
      @bobmiller7502 2 роки тому +2

      It was NEVER a war brother,, it was a conflict war was never declared, just greasing the wheels and sharing the love xxxx

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Рік тому +6

      @@bobmiller7502 like the Ukraine, you meant to say? Not a war?

    • @mohammed_2939
      @mohammed_2939 Рік тому

      Those videos are propaganda, ir you're really interested on the conflict, see both countries videos, with NO propaganda.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 Рік тому

      @@bobmiller7502 correct as Thatcher never stood up in parliament and declared that we were ar war with Argentina.

    • @bobmiller7502
      @bobmiller7502 Рік тому

      @@michaelhearn3052 xx

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland 2 роки тому +284

    How could the Sheffield's crew not imagine that the planes' position in relation to their ship was slightly different than that from their sister ship?

    • @morgan97475
      @morgan97475 2 роки тому +72

      The "fog of war" always causes confusion.

    • @MiffedStarfish053
      @MiffedStarfish053 2 роки тому +234

      I suspect because someone had been bloody careless

    • @living2ndchildhood347
      @living2ndchildhood347 2 роки тому +70

      Perhaps the crew failed to make the transition from “peacetime thinking” to “wartime thinking”……. I saw that in the Balkans War (1999) onboard the USCGC I was temporarily assigned to in the war zone.

    • @dogcarman
      @dogcarman 2 роки тому +77

      Because their boss the captain hadn’t trained them well? Allowing the use of a comms system that blinds the radar in a combat zone doesn’t indicate a good leader….

    • @dashsocur
      @dashsocur 2 роки тому +42

      Easy, in high stress environments critical thinking skills rapidly degrade. This means that Glasgow's message was probably a bit less precise than would be the case in a peacetime simulation. Add in the inherent complacency of the Sheffield's officers probably thinking it was another false alarm, combine that with the "telephone" effect of the message going through multiple people, and it makes perfect sense why there was confusion. The radar operators were probably told "look for any air contacts on 'X' bearing" rather than "Glasgow reports air contacts bearing 'X'". When they then saw exactly what they expected (ie: nothing), they almost certainly chalked it up to someone on Glasgow getting "jumpy" and went back to whatever they were previously doing.

  • @mattyb7183
    @mattyb7183 2 роки тому +71

    I remember reading one book a while ago that talked about one issue the Royal Navy had during the war was its anti-air capability. From what I remember, the author said it was due to what the RN was expected to do in the event of the Cold War going hot.
    The RN had been given a particular task (anti-submarine if I remember correctly) as part of a larger NATO mission, with the expectation that other NATO Navies would be there performing other tasks like dedicated air defence and so on. So the RN had spent decades planning to fight as part of big multinational force and then came the Falkland War...
    Suddenly the RN was fighting a war it had never expected and they found they had some serious capability issues, with air defence being a big one. As what they had avaliable was good if there is someone else nearby with better kit and you expected to be part of a wider network. Not so good if it is the only thing avaliable.
    And of course, the Argentine pilots had the skills to find and exploit those short comings.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 роки тому +4

      The argies had bought two Type 42s from us and were able to practise mock attacks against them. That is one reason in part why the attack on the Sheffield was successful.

    • @TeamCGS2005
      @TeamCGS2005 Рік тому +1

      Very insightful observation, though it no doubt explains why the UK went on the develop the Type 45 Destroyer.

    • @SamBao
      @SamBao Рік тому +2

      @@TeamCGS2005 and in the next war RN's adversary will attack them with submarines 😂

  • @dfolt
    @dfolt Рік тому +29

    Was a midshipman in the West German navy at the time, and of course we were following closely what was going on down south in 1982.
    I dare say that this film is the most clear and instructive on the chain of events that has lead to the loss of HMS Sheffield that I have seen so far.
    BZ!

    • @SnakeBush
      @SnakeBush Рік тому

      Thank you for your service to the DDR

    • @dfolt
      @dfolt Рік тому +4

      @@SnakeBush Federal German Navy was not the "DDR".

    • @rainbowseeker5930
      @rainbowseeker5930 9 місяців тому +1

      @@SnakeBush - DDR was the Communist Germany... you mean the Bundesmarine, West Germany's Navy.

  • @MrMinimanmatt
    @MrMinimanmatt Рік тому +30

    You have to give the argentines credit for how well this operation was carried out

  • @helloxyz
    @helloxyz 6 місяців тому +2

    One of my leading seamen came from the Sheffield. He confirmed that the ship was slack, in many ways. The captain was a nice guy, not a ship driver or warrior. But otherwise, the problems of Sheffield were common to my ship as well, and to most of the Royal Navy. We had nylon clothing, nylon bedding, thin anti-flash gear, all designed to cut costs (and weight, perhaps). A week after Sheffield's sinking, we all received horse-hair mattresses, thick cotton N° 8s, proper anti-flash gloves and balaclava. These had all been in store (in Gib, in my case) for years - 1974, my mattress was built. On my ship, I had been complaining for months that the Rover gas turbine - used for auxiliary fire fighting in case the main drain failed, but also for pumping water out of the ship when firefighting or when flooded - did not work. We got a new one after the Sheffield sinking. One of the reasons the Sheffield crew had so many problems was that the exocet split the main drain and firefighters could not get any water pressure, so could not control the smoke, provide boundary cooling, or attack the fire. Their Rover didn't work, either.
    Exocet only carried a small warhead, plus any remaining fuel. The short range at which they were launched meant that there was still plenty of fuel, adding to the fire, but the warhead was only sufficient to punch a hole in the side. A similar missile hit the a**e end of the Glamorgan at the end of the war and good damage control prevented any more serious loss. It took 2 exocets to wreck the Atlantic Conveyor, but two were not enough to sink the USS Stark. A 500kg bomb would cause much more damage than an exocet, but Argentine bombs rarely exploded due to the low height from which they were dropped.
    I've just been reading about the Japanese naval air experience - and what is most impressive is the huge number of weapons that are needed to sink a warship - armoured during WWII. One or two hits shouldn't affect a big ship like a carrier with good damage control. But British ships of Falklands vintage were designed to stand up to 1 500kg bomb, but not 2. So, Coventry, capsized after two bombs, but Ardent survived for a day after 3 bombs (with many more unexploded), Antelope was hit by 2 bombs, but only one exploded near the magazines which also detonated, sinking the ship.
    In conclusion, considering the Argies had only 5 missiles, they squandered them on unimportant targets, a rookie error, and failed to follow up their hit with anything else. Poor strategy, poor planning, poor tactics, generally poor business, and hitting the Sheffield, a ship that wasn't going to make any major contribution to the war, was poetic justice.

  • @ericcheng3143
    @ericcheng3143 Рік тому +23

    The argentinians were hasty in the invasion. They needed the ethendards and the exocets. Having them would have caused the lost of more ships.

    • @georgerivera9220
      @georgerivera9220 Рік тому +1

      Ethandards?

    • @matiasfpm
      @matiasfpm 10 місяців тому

      ​@@georgerivera9220Super Etendarts, the froggys planes 😂.

  • @avengermkii7872
    @avengermkii7872 2 роки тому +272

    What a preventable attack. They had ample warning and they managed to screw it up. There are times, I think, some commanders don't deserve their post.

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 2 роки тому +1

      Submarine Captain! Helicopter No2!

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 2 роки тому +5

      Alot don't

    • @robertdlucas7418
      @robertdlucas7418 2 роки тому +23

      No one was held responsible in typical British cover up.

    • @theoraclerules5056
      @theoraclerules5056 2 роки тому +16

      There was of course a full-naval board of enquiry afterwards that exonerated Captain Sam Salt from any undue blame in this incident! He had of course responsibility to answer for the performance & conduct of his ship, for himself & those of the HMS Sheffield’s Officers, NCOs & Crew too, during this event & the immediately preceding period, which he did in fact do too!
      The fact that there were then no specific, uniform ’Royal Naval’ standing orders or standard operating procedures regarding these particular systems at that time in effect that directly led to the circumstances that had been brought about by turning off one particular operating early warning radar system, in order not to compromise the operational efficacy or security of another, separately-integrated, parallel functioning, electronic-systems, therefore would then seem to expose an obvious systemic oversight & inconsistency in operational protocols at that time in 1982, a fact backed up by only HMS Glasgow of the three (The Sheffield, Coventry & Glasgow) screening Type-42 Destroyers then on forward Fleet Air Defence duties then performing these duties, had also operated, as both the alternative EWS & inter-ship communications systems had been also both temporarily switched off too by on their respective Captains’ orders & hence, they were unable to establish contact with either of the two other Type-42 ships then on forward Air Defence Patrol, whose corresponding systems had been then temporarily deactivated on legitimate but inconsistent RN orders under these circumstances!!
      This incident then led to a navy/fleet review of operational procedures in those situations & apparently it had been deemed by the subsequent naval enquiry that this case had arisen due to newly implemented or even experimental technologies not having been clearly, previously defined or systematically applied, but then overtaking existing operational procedures at the time that in this particular case had directly led to the tragic loss of lives & sinking of the HMS Sheffield!
      Later, Captain Sam Salt went on to complete a successful naval career, retiring as a Rear Admiral in 1997. He died of cancer in 2009.

    • @SantiagoAriasEskapa
      @SantiagoAriasEskapa 2 роки тому

      HMS Coventry was sunk and HMS Glasgow was hit....so who could tell anything to Captain Salt

  • @robertnichols2283
    @robertnichols2283 2 роки тому +15

    It just hit me- that was forty freaking years ago!
    That’s about halfway as far back in time from now as WW2!
    Good God time flies!

    • @georgerivera9220
      @georgerivera9220 Рік тому +3

      There is still time to reconcile yourself to God by accepting Jesus. Time flies on Earth but eternity is forever and slow.

    • @LondonSteveLee
      @LondonSteveLee Рік тому +3

      What freaks me out is the Falklands conflict today is longer ago than WWII was when the Falklands happened.

  • @lonjohnson5161
    @lonjohnson5161 2 роки тому +137

    I remember this well as I was a bit of a news junkie at the time. It even had made it into one of my science magazines.
    One thing to remember is that this was so deadly because of mistakes ON BOTH SIDES. The Exocet missile had a much longer range than had been used. Had the missiles been fired from a safer distance, there would have been less fuel to feed the fire, which was far deadlier than the warhead alone.

    • @leopold3146
      @leopold3146 2 роки тому +26

      There's always enough food for a fire in any machinery room...

    • @lonjohnson5161
      @lonjohnson5161 2 роки тому +24

      @@leopold3146 True enough. However, the assessment at the time was this specific missile was more of a molotov cocktail than a bomb.

    • @farrela3620
      @farrela3620 2 роки тому +2

      So the missiles were shot shorter than the intended range and that makes it less deadlier because less fuel? I think I misunderstood something because I don't understand the logic

    • @jamesfisher5233
      @jamesfisher5233 2 роки тому +6

      @@farrela3620 makes it more deadly

    • @NahuCommNS
      @NahuCommNS 2 роки тому +7

      @@farrela3620 Not less, more. Shorter distance = Less fuel expended.

  • @octowuss1888
    @octowuss1888 2 роки тому +206

    The type 42 performed very poorly in the war. Their sea dart missiles were not effective at low level and were slow to reload. They had no CIWS. Of the three ships in the video, Glasgow was hit on the 12 May by a 1000lb bomb that miraculously passed right through the engine room without exploding. However, damage was done to the fuel lines and hull and the ship was crippled, only able to manage 10 knots. It was forced home and took no further part in the conflict. Coventry was lost on the 25th May when three 1000lb bombs hit the ship and at least two detonated. It capsized and sank in less than 20 minutes.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 Рік тому +17

      More importantly after repairs she was found to be bent due to her hitting a torpedo off the stern. She was only kept on because she was fairly new

    • @CosmoMomen
      @CosmoMomen Рік тому

      CIWS*

    • @wor53lg50
      @wor53lg50 Рік тому +14

      @@CosmoMomen what CIWS in 1982?,the Yanks had fitted only one, to a carrier 2 years before on a test faze, they wouldnt have shared that so quick,back then im sure it was quite top secret on its existance and abilities even to the american public,and it was still in its try out stage, anyhow british had sea dart and sea wolf, the problem was the strikes was made before a established picket line could be affected, meaning two type 42 frigates should have been in support of each other, one with its radar beam set low to mid, with low altitude AA missiles on board like sea dart, and the other with its beam set high for high level attack with high altitude AA missile on board like sea slug, these beams should have overlapped in conjunction with each other, unfortunately in the case with coventry and antelope, the attack came in at the time of the retaking and they hadnt had chance to form up and be in place..the attack came in low onto antelope who's radar and weopon system was for high level, and should have been passed onto and took over from the frigate with a low level beam set ,but due to the speed of the attack, they hadnt formed up and implemented the airspace coverage yet, in fact rapier hadnt even been unloaded for shore based air defence, thats war! and when your in the position for a first strike capability this will always happen..

    • @NavalGuide
      @NavalGuide Рік тому +7

      They performed extremely well considering the situation. Your completely rewriting history. “Slow to reload” compared to what? “No CIWS” only the US Navy has CIWS at this time and only in very few numbers.

    • @octowuss1888
      @octowuss1888 Рік тому +13

      @@NavalGuide"Your completely rewriting history" No, you are completely wrong. Only two of nineteen Sea Dart missiles fired at low level aircraft hit - 11% success rate . I would not say that was performing extremely well. Ships were lost and sailors died because of deficiencies in the missile system. However, it does seem that the main area of deficiency was not the actual missile but the associated Type 965 fire control radar. HMS Exeter was equipped with the newer type 1022 radar and shot down two Skyhawks (out of four), flying less than 15 metres above the sea, which is considerably below the Sea Dart's minimum engagement altitude of 30m. So, if the whole fleet had been upgraded with better radars, the RN may have suffered far less losses. The missiles still take about 20s to reload from the magazines before they can be launched. So, during a low level attack, this is really only a one 'shot' system as there is only a single twin launcher and both missiles were often fired together to maximise kill probability. Sea Wolf had separate sextuple missile launchers fore and aft. CIWS was present on many Russian warships of the era.

  • @polkban
    @polkban Рік тому +10

    Accurate description, well done . Greetings from Buenos Aires.

  • @DaDe224
    @DaDe224 2 роки тому +38

    Thanks for another great video! You shine a light on the complexity of naval operations that I feel are usually very much oversimplified.
    It also brings to life the gruelling reality of fighting aboard tin cans floating on 100's of metres of water in the face of missiles and torpedo's that require only a single hit.

  • @azzajames7661
    @azzajames7661 Рік тому +7

    R.I.P to those 20 sailors that died on board HMAS Sheffield🙌

  • @networkbike543
    @networkbike543 Рік тому +4

    Had no idea so many mistakes were made by Sheffield. Senior officers still with peacetime thinking. Best graphics I have seen that clearly shows the sequence of events.

  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il 2 роки тому +11

    ...and flew him directly to the admirals ship...ouch. that's is when you know you've messed up bad.

    • @slots1407
      @slots1407 2 роки тому +4

      No tea and biscuits offered.

    • @patopato9668
      @patopato9668 Рік тому +1

      "you disappoint me for the last time" darth vader/adm. woodward dixit

  • @TheEDFLegacy
    @TheEDFLegacy Рік тому +42

    Just comes to show how important a good captain is. The other destroyer was on the ball, and would have survived that had it been targeted. The ship's crew did everything it could to save its sister. Meanwhile, the Sheffield's crew were unprepared, lax, and doing things they shouldn't have been doing during wartime. That is something the captain could have resolved, but didn't.

    • @TheModforlife
      @TheModforlife 7 місяців тому

      At the time the exocet hit the Sheffield it was in communication which meant it had its radar turned off also at the time the only system that could tackle low flying missile was seawolf which the Sheffield was not equipped with

  • @grahamkearnon6682
    @grahamkearnon6682 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks, I was an 18 y o greenie on Hermes down south, in the video you see burn victims landing in helos., our job was to fill the helos with firefighting gear, you could smell the burnt flesh inside. Apparently the Exocet never exploded its warhead, the rocket fuel did the damage. Who gets promoted, sure enough Sam Salt for running a sloppy ship, can so eone say coverup RN style.

  • @mellon4251
    @mellon4251 2 роки тому +63

    While still tragic this sinking really puts in my mind how small this conflict was in comparison to other naval conflicts like WWI and WWII where sometimes thousands die on a single afternoon. If this was a destroyer in Jutland or in Midway it wouldn't even have been mentioned.

    • @ceruleancrow5884
      @ceruleancrow5884 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah.
      They don't even tell people that during Jutland the British destroyer screen was forced to fight alone against the German high fleet and while they did get one dreadnought, they lost several in return.

    • @Vic-E.
      @Vic-E. 2 роки тому +17

      It's true.
      However, modern (...well, semi-modern speaking of T42s) destroyers are not anymore "minor" vessels like their WWI/WWII counterparts. Today's guided-missile, air defense destroyers are the biggest and more valuable surface asset of a Navy next to an aircraft carrier. So if tomorrow someone would sink a T45, the relevance would be huge.

    • @seawolf4846
      @seawolf4846 2 роки тому +2

      @@ceruleancrow5884 Pre-Dreadnought actually.

    • @ceruleancrow5884
      @ceruleancrow5884 2 роки тому

      @@seawolf4846 I just checked myself, yeah you're right :)

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Рік тому

      @@ceruleancrow5884 Trading several WW1 DDs against a pre-dreadnought is a very good deal, in terms of manpower, money, tonnage and building time …

  • @hemeoncn
    @hemeoncn 2 роки тому +31

    Great video. Well done. I remember this well being in the Royal Canadian Navy at the time as an Ops Room rating so everything that happened was important to me, especially mistakes when fighting the ship.

    • @scottessery100
      @scottessery100 2 роки тому

      What happened to cpt salt …

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 роки тому

      @@scottessery100 seem to recall he retired sometime later on. Was on the board of a company. He may have passed away recently.

    • @graemegeddes3987
      @graemegeddes3987 8 місяців тому +1

      @@scottessery100. He was appointed in Command of HMS Southampton within a year. Subsequently he was promoted to Admiral and retired from the Navy in the ordinary course in 1991. Sadly he passed away from cancer a few years later.

  • @PM-tm7bp
    @PM-tm7bp Рік тому +3

    I'm still amazed at the quality and detail in your videos. This is great work. Thank you

  • @geordiedog1749
    @geordiedog1749 2 роки тому +107

    I remember this clearly. The ‘wake up’ value of it was quite astounding.
    What happened to the second of the Exocets?

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 роки тому +63

      It ran out of propellant and ditched into the sea.

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 2 роки тому +7

      @@michaelhearn3052 Ah. Cheers.

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 роки тому +22

      @@michaelhearn3052 It malfuncioned, it have enough propelant.

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 роки тому +27

      @@geordiedog1749 The guide system malfunctioned

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 2 роки тому +6

      @@omarbradley6807 That would mess it up pretty good.
      Cheers

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson2899 2 роки тому +2

    Well done! I have read and seen many recountings, yours is the clearest.

  • @manueldamianbelen9962
    @manueldamianbelen9962 Рік тому +6

    Los pilotos navales, Armando Mayora - Augusto Bedacartatz.🇦🇷
    4-5-1982 El Sheffield se convirtió en el primer buque de guerra británico 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿hundido desde Segunda Guerra Mundial y el primero de la OTAN.
    20 Muertos y 63 heridos condolencias a familiares del HMS Sheffield - Su capitán Sam Salt.
    Despues del fin de la Segunda Guerra Mundial , Argentina🇦🇷 , Excelentes pilotos Alemane🇩🇪 en nuestro pais capacitaron a los pilotos arg. Adof Galland - Hans Ulrich Rudel- Behrens Otto - kurt Waldemar Tank- Werner Baumbach-
    Heinz Scheidhauer.

  • @loungelizard3922
    @loungelizard3922 2 роки тому +10

    The animation of the fire spreading on the ship reminded me of FTL. Excellent video, you're amazing at what you do.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 Рік тому

      A fire on a ship is far more scary than you can ever imagine

  • @jonnyharris2612
    @jonnyharris2612 Рік тому

    I'm new to Historigraph but glad to have discovered the channel. I've just watched a series these vids on the Falklands War and believe they are very well researched, written and animated. Solid story telling with an efficient style.

  • @jamesscalzo3033
    @jamesscalzo3033 Рік тому +1

    Loved the video @Historigraph! Can't wait for the next video man! Sheffield wasn't the Only Ship lost on the British side of the Falklands War, her Sister Coventry and hours later the Container Ship Atlantic Conveyor were lost to AM 39 Exocet Missiles a few days later.

  • @tinoduboisen9703
    @tinoduboisen9703 Рік тому +6

    The pilots had an extra problem when flying so close to the sea and it was the salt that stuck to the windshield and made it difficult to see, so they used to have to support the helmet against the side glass which caused a huge vibration inside the helmet.

  • @terik3312
    @terik3312 2 роки тому +46

    Don't suppose you'll be covering the sinking of the Alantic Conveyer in this series?

    • @historigraph
      @historigraph  2 роки тому +48

      Yes it will of course be mentioned in the relevant video

    • @terik3312
      @terik3312 2 роки тому +7

      @@historigraph awsome always felt it was a bit of overlooked ship despite the important role it played in the war, all people remember it for is being sunk

    • @mikemcghin5394
      @mikemcghin5394 2 роки тому +1

      And HMS Coventry by bombing

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 2 роки тому +1

      @@terik3312 I'd argue that actually she was the most significant loss of the war - Ardent, Antelope, Coventry and Sheffield were ultimately all escort vessels - their job if necessary to take a hit. Atlantic Conveyor was one of the ships they were trying to protect.

    • @terik3312
      @terik3312 2 роки тому +2

      @@tomriley5790 especially when you consider what she carried and how her loss drastically effect how Britain fought the eventually Ground war

  • @Hollows1997
    @Hollows1997 2 роки тому +22

    Woodward was right. Someone had been bloody careless.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 2 роки тому +2

      More than one, it seems

    • @mrgreatauk
      @mrgreatauk 2 роки тому +3

      But it seems that he himself was a bit too dismissive of Glasgow's warning...

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 2 роки тому +2

      @@mrgreatauk
      Yeah, I'd say the admiral who disregarded Glasgow, that's Careless #1.
      And also the captain of the Sheffield for that radio rule, #2.
      And also the two senior officers who apparently both weren't at their stations simultaneously, #3 & #4.
      Captain of the Glasgow should've gotten a promotion for this, though - only person with a head on his shoulders....

    • @MrWongCx
      @MrWongCx Рік тому +1

      I doubt that the admiral was that careless. At any given time in operations, a hundred things are happening at once. The Admiral had to trust his crews to the task. Too many false alarms on the radar, and people will slip up.

  • @digyourowngrave97
    @digyourowngrave97 2 роки тому +2

    Woo! Favorite channel post right before bed!

  • @tka4nik
    @tka4nik 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome as always!

  • @teacherwayne6680
    @teacherwayne6680 Рік тому +4

    One of my Friends was onboard HMS Sheffield when it was struck and survived to tell the tale. It was a terrifying experience for him. He still suffers this day with the experience (mentally).

    • @mariomoreno9954
      @mariomoreno9954 11 місяців тому

      Same for the Belgrano sank by the submarine while the navy was out of exclusion zone, the order was made by Margie. These attacks were the anwers from understimate opponent. Finally many lost men in both side afer war, very very sad history.

  • @jimmillward3505
    @jimmillward3505 Рік тому +1

    God bless the boys on the Sheffield. I am a former sailor (Chef) I served on the Broadsword in peace time a small number of years after the end of the Falklands war. I was on what was known as the armilla patrol in the Persian gulf, The Broadsword at the time was testing out a new 3D sonar from Plessey, One day a guy from the ops room came into my galley with a curious grin on his face and he said questioningly "Chef have you just been running the potato peeler machine" I said Errrrr yeah why whats the problem with that? He then went on to explain that up in the ops room the sonar kept giving them incoming torpedo alerts for days and it turns out it was my potato peeler giving off an similar sonar signature as the motor of a torpedo.

  • @smuk6405
    @smuk6405 Рік тому +1

    This is a really interesting and well compiled series on Falklands war. Well done

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 роки тому +3

    I like this channel's emphasis on naval history

  • @ricardokowalski1579
    @ricardokowalski1579 2 роки тому +40

    4:10 Yes you can have Harriers and they are killers. But Harriers could not fill the role of AWACS or E2s. Argentina's pilots exploited this blind spot. History was made, lessons were learned.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 роки тому +4

      That's the reason why two seaking helicopters were converted to AEW with the addition of an extra forward seeing radar and two observers onboard.

    • @docdr7199
      @docdr7199 Рік тому +1

      If you read Sharky Ward's book, he says the Harriers on CAP could/should have detected the incoming Etendards, but they were sent away to do a surface search leaving a big hole through which the Argentinians attacked.

    • @red.5475
      @red.5475 Рік тому

      Things would have been much different, had HMS Ark Royal and her aircraft still been in commission.

    • @Highendaudio1
      @Highendaudio1 Рік тому +1

      @@docdr7199 Clearly you dont know the facts and rely on a book. I think that statement is exaggerated

    • @docdr7199
      @docdr7199 Рік тому

      @@Highendaudio1 Yup. I wasn't there so I have to rely on accounts written by those who were.

  • @TheDrAkira
    @TheDrAkira 7 місяців тому +2

    Nice narration of events. Thanks for being respectful with both bands. Malvinas/Falklands is still today a very sensitive topic for us Argebtinians and for UK of course. Both bands had sustained lots of casualties thanks to bad politicians...

    • @TomFynn
      @TomFynn 7 місяців тому

      There were only bad politicians on the Argentinean side. You know? Those that made tens of thousands of Argentinians disappear into dark torture cellars?

  • @markwilliams7205
    @markwilliams7205 Рік тому +1

    I agree you have a gift for presenting complex information in a concise and clear way - first class

  • @marcelogomez6859
    @marcelogomez6859 Рік тому +7

    En Malvinas , Argentina combatió con la mayoría de aviones antiguos y armamentos viejos , se hizo bastante a pesar del bloqueo de la OTAN

    • @matiasfpm
      @matiasfpm 10 місяців тому +1

      Habia una mezcla entre aviones viejos y nuevos.
      Los q muestra en el video eran contemporaneos de su época

  • @jasperphua9319
    @jasperphua9319 Рік тому +8

    Despite all these, bravery to the pilot that did the operation.

  • @afwaller
    @afwaller Рік тому +1

    This is excellent quality documentary. Well done.

  • @petenztube8592
    @petenztube8592 2 роки тому

    New Falklands documentary, yay! Thanks!

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 2 роки тому +31

    Aluminum isn't a good thing to build ships out of first of all. Second Kevlar burns quite nicely and puts out tons of toxic smoke,three: electronics burn nicely too and puts out tons of toxic smoke also wasn't the water mains hit too? Also the ship had a pathetic air defenses. 2 20mm cannons,sea dart Sam's that suck at any range,4 30 cal machine guns and a 4.5in cannon. Like wtf royal navy.

    • @DougAdams
      @DougAdams 2 роки тому +11

      And this was a specialised anti-air ship... insane

    • @Icetubexd
      @Icetubexd 2 роки тому +8

      Even Modern AA platforms like CWIS, combined with long range missile defense, are vastly overrated. Sadly since the advent of airpower, navies have had a consistent habit of underestimating new aerial threats to their ships, that trend is continuing to this day.

    • @billhanna2148
      @billhanna2148 2 роки тому +7

      And the Argentine navy HAD the same ships or the same Sea Dart systems and they KNEW just how they work or didn't work. One for "know thine enemy"

    • @living2ndchildhood347
      @living2ndchildhood347 2 роки тому +5

      And the Brits found that their uniforms made of synthetic rayon melted to their skin while firefighting and that corfam shoes also melted to their feet. We in the USN & USCG dis ban corfam shoes from shipboard use and once aga issued flash gear as what was used during WW2.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 роки тому +2

      Sheffield was an all steel build.

  • @biko331966
    @biko331966 Рік тому +55

    My two cents: (i) you forgot to say that the fleet was tracked by a Argentine Navy's Neptune, and the attack was properly prepared (ii) the way of attacking was studied by engineers and one university in Argentina, on how to fly without "touchjing" the lobe of the type 42's radar (a maneuver called "peeking the lobe")

    • @muskiet8687
      @muskiet8687 Рік тому +4

      (i): 2:58
      (ii): 4:03

    • @biko331966
      @biko331966 Рік тому +2

      @@muskiet8687 4.03 it was studied using our type 42 ship's radar at the Universidad del Sur.

  • @fasfas8999
    @fasfas8999 2 роки тому

    Great video ! Secrecy, surprise and bravery was the determinant attack

  • @bigdmac33
    @bigdmac33 2 роки тому

    Very good presentation - full of detail and presented factually.

  • @nestordelponte4511
    @nestordelponte4511 Рік тому +28

    "No hay quien pueda con los pilotos Argentinos" Sandy Woodward

    • @hernandemornay7559
      @hernandemornay7559 Рік тому +1

      Tampoco hay quien pueda hacer esa filmación del Exocet impactando en el Sheffield ,desde donde se filmó ? Quien la filmó ? Que estaba haciendo filmando justo en ese momento, considerando que el misil venía a una velocidad altísima y nadie lo sabía ,como estaba preparado el camarógrafo para el impacto tan bien ubicado y con cámara de esa calidad ,puedes decirme quién hizo esa filmación o si es real o una simple recreación ?

    • @jorgebotta8299
      @jorgebotta8299 Рік тому +2

      @@hernandemornay7559 siga pensando!

    • @hernandemornay7559
      @hernandemornay7559 Рік тому

      @@jorgebotta8299 pero no tienes respuesta verdad ,esa filmación del Exocet es una filmación francesa experimental ,la presentan como que es el Sheffield pero no lo es , hundieron realmente al Sheffield ? Porque presentar imágenes que no corresponden al hecho ,quizá no hubo tal hecho,siga investigando y entenderá y después quizá ,quizá te de por pensar

    • @jorgearg8701
      @jorgearg8701 Рік тому +3

      @@hernandemornay7559 jajaja ahora se duda de que hundieron al barco JAJA

    • @20chocsaday
      @20chocsaday 5 місяців тому

      And the missile was shown hitting the target on British television that night or the night after.
      A French salesman had the film in his briefcase when he saw a client?

  • @antimimoniakos
    @antimimoniakos 2 роки тому +8

    Atlantic Conveyor was more critical loss due to the material carried. Exocet wasn't the only threat because 14 ships were hit by conventional bombs through air raids but didn't explode. If those 14 hits were exploited or if Argentina had more Exocet missiles UK would have lost the war. I've seen a documentary where the Argentinian pilot said was launched the Exocet from longer distance and it didn't exploited but caused the fire due to its fuel.

    • @EE-ve3vh
      @EE-ve3vh Рік тому +1

      They did not explote because Mitterand gave the codes to Thatcher.

    • @martindione386
      @martindione386 10 місяців тому +1

      @@EE-ve3vh there wasn't any codes, you can't disable a missile with "codes", Mitterrand might have given other useful information like the search radar frequencies to jam it.

    • @mikearmstrong8483
      @mikearmstrong8483 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@martindione386
      You are correct on the codes. But Mitterand didn't have to provide any frequencies. The frequency bands used by radar seekers on all but the most experimental missiles are common knowledge to all the leading military powers.

  • @billhanna2148
    @billhanna2148 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you 🙏 again for your EXCELLENT work

  • @Jesse_Dawg
    @Jesse_Dawg Рік тому

    Amazing series. love every episode so far as i get through this playlist. please more videos

  • @migueltridico6390
    @migueltridico6390 Рік тому +20

    Gloria eterna a los valientes pilotos Argentinos !!!!!

  • @matiasfrias8280
    @matiasfrias8280 Рік тому +4

    Viva la Patria carajo!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

  • @farmingpotato3372
    @farmingpotato3372 2 роки тому +2

    Love your videos! Can you make one on the battle of Midway?

  • @tomhutchins7495
    @tomhutchins7495 Рік тому +2

    I love the understantement of "someone's been bloody careless". It translates from British Naval Officer approximately as "You, Captain, yes you personally, along with a whole bunch of people you are responsible for, are shockingly incompetent, and it's going to be court martials all round."

    • @Martin1jg
      @Martin1jg Рік тому +1

      Yes, except for the last part where nobody is assigned responsibility, just British tradition

    • @user-nh6cb3pl8h
      @user-nh6cb3pl8h 3 місяці тому

      Admiral Woodward was a submariner and knew captain Salt very well - Captain Salt flew out to Mobassa in Jan 1982 to take Command of Sheffield in a quiet passage home to UK after being deployed to the Gulf for 4 months already - so he was not particularly trained in Anti Air Warfare and had not carried Commanding officer Sea Training at Portland (FOST- is a work up for 4-6 weeks) Sheffield should have gone home to repair defects including fire pumps but Sam Salt apparently persuaded Woodward to join the Task Force in Gib during Exercise SPRING TRAIN !

  • @juanmc5731
    @juanmc5731 2 роки тому +19

    15 feet at 500 knots that's less than 5 meters at 926km/h the cold guts to do that are astounding.

    • @monkee1969
      @monkee1969 2 роки тому +4

      50 feet

    • @monkee1969
      @monkee1969 2 роки тому +1

      @@adrien5834 i've no doubt .... but we're talking about the aircraft & pilots not the missiles.

  • @crazywarriorscatfan9061
    @crazywarriorscatfan9061 2 роки тому +3

    Nice!

  • @Thomas_Name
    @Thomas_Name 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for another great episode.

  • @UFalum2011
    @UFalum2011 Рік тому

    Fascinating! Thank you!

  • @gabrieldeutz6465
    @gabrieldeutz6465 Рік тому +3

    Admirable las proezas de los pilotos argentinos!

  • @maxkronader5225
    @maxkronader5225 2 роки тому +23

    Silver lining:
    As bad as it was for her, Sheffield actually accomplished her primary mission. Neither carrier was struck by enemy fire.
    In extremis, the duty of the escorts is to take the hit to save the carrier. Thus, despite all the mistakes, and almost certainly inadvertently, Sheffield did succeed in her primary mission of keeping the carriers from being hit by the enemy missiles.

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 2 роки тому +2

      Followed by the Atlantic Conveyor on 25th May 1982, sacrificed to decoy the two Exocets.

    • @sichere
      @sichere Рік тому

      @@EdMcF1 Exactly - "Picket ships"

    • @martinvacirca7126
      @martinvacirca7126 Рік тому +1

      Are you sure ?

    • @Matelot123
      @Matelot123 Рік тому +1

      @@EdMcF1 Atlantic Conveyor wasn't "sacrificed". The two exocets that hit her had been successfully decoyed by chaff fired from other ships. Unfortunately, Atlantic Conveyor wasn't fitted with any kind of countermeasures and was subsequently struck and lost. The loss of the Atlantic Conveyor was a huge blow to the task force as it was carrying a lot of important equipment including heavy lift Chinook helicopters.

  • @therealuncleowen2588
    @therealuncleowen2588 3 місяці тому

    War is so terrible and fascinating. Humanity doing it's worst to each other, and yet the pressure of risking one's life often brings out the best of humanity.

  • @johncox2865
    @johncox2865 Рік тому

    Very good historical info. Thanks.

  • @themanftheworld8439
    @themanftheworld8439 2 роки тому +26

    The senior crew of Sheffield certainly played their part in this unnecessary sinking is the only conclusion I can draw.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 Рік тому +1

      One person should take all the responsibility Salt

    • @Highendaudio1
      @Highendaudio1 Рік тому

      @@gowdsake7103 Why is that exactly? Reading this is funny to read ill-informed views based on a crappy inaccurate made up video which bears no resemblance of the facts. Let us me hear your reason why you think Sam should take fault when none was due

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 Рік тому

      @@Highendaudio1 Because he was aware of the inherent threat but he was chatting to a friend in I understand in Whitehall using Scott which disabled the use of the 965 and 992

    • @Highendaudio1
      @Highendaudio1 Рік тому

      @@gowdsake7103 you see you read and listen to far too many ill-informed people.
      Let me educate you. He was on the sat phone for official reasons and it had nothing to do with Whitehall. The sat phone is what is affected by radar not the other way around.
      Sheffield wasn't fitted with 965 radar and this issue is that 965 and 965M were not designed to and could not detect low-flying targets or missiles.
      Sheffield was not fitted with 992 which was a radar designed for weapon guidance in a set band.
      A bit of a history lesson for you.
      The widely fitted 965 underwent improvements post-corporate to improve the surface clutter capability using better doppler and other aspects. the 965M was still no better and In its basic form, it was a radar that saw service in the 50s, so what did we expect? Type 42 were warships that were poorly planned, designed, and equipped due to the lack of money in an era when high-level bombers still carried the deterrent. By 1982 one has to ask if using them as radar pickets was a decision made without facing reality. You may talk about Sea Cat and Sea Slug ( Both well-accepted as not worth the effort ) but Sea Dart like its associated radar was designed to take out high-level bombers.
      The part that is blacked out in the inquiry all but says, Sheffield wouldn't have stood a chance even if all ducks had been lined up in a row.
      HMS Glasgow. She didn't detect the Supers Es at 40 miles out on radar; they detected a UAA1 A radar transmission. This is where the Super Es comes up to transmit on their radar to get the final TMA before releasing their weapons.
      After firing their weapons, the Super Es and the other aircraft (Yes, there were three) then went low again, and they were again invisible to our radars. HMS Glasgow never saw the MPA that was there for hours and located Sheffield and called in the attack. HMS Glasgow never at any point detected any of the three aircraft by radar
      The threat that was being dealt with at the time was the supposed submarine threat which was totally over-exaggerated.
      In short, the radar system in our fleet at the time was not fit for purpose and we the problem not the people as you suggest

    • @LondonSteveLee
      @LondonSteveLee Рік тому

      As did the senior crew on board Hermes sending the Harriers off on a wild goose chase to do visual searches rather than allowing them to fly their usual CAP and sweep the area with RADAR. Argentinian pilots were told to abandon attacks whenever they detected Sea Harrier. These two Etendards flew through where the Harriers should have been patrolling.

  • @DanielRico77
    @DanielRico77 Рік тому +6

    el peor pecado de la guerra "exceso de confianza" Inglaterra se había creído su propio discurso sobre su absoluta superioridad militar.

    • @martindione386
      @martindione386 10 місяців тому +1

      no sé si toda Inglaterra, pero el capitán del Sheffield seguro

    • @20chocsaday
      @20chocsaday 5 місяців тому

      England is part of Britain.
      Almost until Belgrano was judged too dangerous we hoped that the invaders would go back home. After it was the sad business of sending them home dead or alive.
      From what was known of the Argentinian government by the people in Britain, it would be a sad fate for them.

    • @DanielRico77
      @DanielRico77 5 місяців тому

      En Ucrania les ha pasado lo mismo.

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 2 роки тому

    Great work Sir thank you

  • @bernadmanny
    @bernadmanny 2 роки тому +1

    I've been waiting for this.

  • @622PSS
    @622PSS 2 роки тому +16

    11:20 Any follow-up action on that?!

    • @historigraph
      @historigraph  2 роки тому +27

      A couple of officers (not Cpt Salt) were found to be negligent but weren't publicly court martialled as the UK govt didn't want bad vibes in the wake of the Falkands victory

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman Рік тому

      ​@@historigraph it wasn't made public for over 30 years.....
      Cover up doesn't begin to cover it

  • @raymondyee2008
    @raymondyee2008 2 роки тому +6

    This and years later the U.S.S Stark….powerful reminders never to underestimate the AM-39 Exocet.

    • @flym0
      @flym0 Рік тому +1

      I was in the Gulf when the Stark was hit. She wasn't even on a war footing at the time.
      Reading a copy of their redacted damage control report was quite sobering.

    • @LondonSteveLee
      @LondonSteveLee Рік тому +1

      @@flym0 She was in a war zone - why was she not on a war footing? Great job by the crew to control the fire - luckily for them in typical Exocet style only one detonated.

    • @flym0
      @flym0 Рік тому

      @@LondonSteveLee IIRC, the old man was more concerned about doing machinery breakdown tasks. We were at full defence watches with everything primed ready to go.
      All I will say it is a good job we followed the ROE when the Iranian F4 Phantom locked on to us as we transited the straits with our convoy ...

    • @LondonSteveLee
      @LondonSteveLee Рік тому

      @@flym0 If you at full defense why was Phalanx not even online?

    • @flym0
      @flym0 Рік тому +1

      @@LondonSteveLee Indeed. I do think it was complete complacency on her captains part. I have to commend their EW guys for at least priming their chaff launcher but by that time it was far too late.
      And why they didn't detect the Exocet head on their SLQ32, to me, still remains a mystery.
      Disclosure: I was an EW operator at the time of this incident.

  • @francishooper9548
    @francishooper9548 15 днів тому

    Interesting discription of this event. I personally have spoken to a sailor who was in theSheffields op room at this time. His description of the events is quite different. He said that in fact they did pick up the in coming aircraft but their officer did not believe the contact. He also said the they were hit with one exocet but it failed to explode. Its impact set their superstructure on fire - it was aluminium ( to save momey and weight) and it was impossible to put this fire out.

  • @Tconcept
    @Tconcept 6 місяців тому

    Very interesting thank you. I visited Sheffield during navy days in Portsmouth 1981, it was a shock to see her destroyed on the news in '82.

  • @kenharris5390
    @kenharris5390 2 роки тому +4

    Historical evidence from the Royal Navy says that if a fire onboard a ship is not brought under control within ten minutes, then the chance of regaining control diminishes. A valiant effort must be applauded by all on board. A combination of circumstances converged at a crucial moment in time, as is present in many disasters.
    Lessoned learned, has enabled a range of changes in various actions, procedures and ship design. Most importantly, the realisation of the condition of PTSD, by those whose war never ended, would eventually result in the recognition and treatment for this nightmare.

  • @jorgeferrato9330
    @jorgeferrato9330 Рік тому +21

    Hermoso momento.

  • @trevorday7923
    @trevorday7923 4 місяці тому

    A well executed attack, by two skilled pilots. I still remember when this happened, I think this was when the general public realised we really WERE at war. Up until then the mood had been righteous but still fairly jovial. The Sheffield's destruction changed all that, rapidly....

  • @Cloud7050
    @Cloud7050 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video! High quality. One thing I noticed was that the video captions are an older version of the script and don't match the narration.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 роки тому +7

    the exocets certainly played a large role in the war

    • @Matelot123
      @Matelot123 Рік тому

      Exocet was responsible for sinking one warship, damaging another (which put it out of action for only a few hours) and one stuft ship. Hardly a large role.

    • @GDavid-yh2xp
      @GDavid-yh2xp 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Matelot123hardly a large role? Tatcher herself asked the French government to give UK the Exocets keys to disable them 😂
      France gave UK’s navy an opportunity to be more humble, but I guess it’s not taught in brit’s classes uh?

    • @Matelot123
      @Matelot123 10 місяців тому

      @@GDavid-yh2xp Irrelevant though. They had six and they sank one warship and one unarmed merchant vessel. Exocet is an easily decoyed piece of garbage that gained a far better reputation than it deserved based solely on the fact that it was responsible for sinking the Sheffield when frankly, the Captain of the Sheffield held far more responsibility for that farce.

  • @protonneutron9046
    @protonneutron9046 Рік тому +8

    Those two pilots pulled off a very difficult mission.

  • @LondonSteveLee
    @LondonSteveLee Рік тому +2

    Blame for the Sheffield also largely lay with the commanders (and 800 squadron) on Hermes who would not listen to Sharkey regarding the performance of Harrier’s RADAR, 800 squadron rarely used it believing it to be dead weight where as 801 were getting terrific results using the RADAR for CAP duties sweeping large areas - inter service “pride” (arrogance) meant that they would deride Sharkey rather than try to learn from him and his squadron. Harrier CAPs were often sent off to investigate contacts using the Mk1 eyeball rather than sweeping the area with RADAR - this is why the current CAP Harriers were off on a wild goose chase when Sheffield was attacked - to spend half an hour doing a visual search that could have been done in 5 seconds with air-borne RADAR. It also transpired after the war that Argentinian pilots were told to RTB if they detected Sea Harrier RADARs - so if 800 squadron had taken Sharkey’s advice and technical assistance in the use of Sea Harrer’s Blue Fox, many attacks on the fleet would have been thwarted merely from the presence of two thirds more Sea Harrier RADARs in the sky.

  • @dufus7396
    @dufus7396 Рік тому +2

    The range and punch of that little jet was astounding

    • @mikearmstrong8483
      @mikearmstrong8483 10 місяців тому

      The range and punch of that little jet was pathetic compared to other carrier strike aircraft of the same era.

    • @matiasfpm
      @matiasfpm 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mikearmstrong8483still, the bri'ish were nervous about those boom sticks ☠️

  • @oisinmurphy8747
    @oisinmurphy8747 2 роки тому +8

    LETS GOOO 1 SECOND AGO UPLOAD

  • @montyzumazoom1337
    @montyzumazoom1337 Рік тому +5

    I remember this well.
    Me and a view friends had just bought Fish and Chips one evening on the south coast of England, and were eating it out of the paper standing around another friend’s car listening to the news on the car radio.
    When the news came through, we were all shocked to hear it.
    It brought home the fact that there would be losses on both sides, and that there was more bad news likely to come.
    But we were all proud of Britains response and determination to retake the Falkland Islands and liberate the British citizens. Not forgetting South Georgia as well.
    Like all conflicts there is loss of life and other people have to live with that loss, and also many have to live with the physical and mental scars.
    For those that would never return, we will never forget.

    • @georgerivera9220
      @georgerivera9220 Рік тому

      Britain's response? Britain should not have thought the Malvinas were theirs for the taking to begin with.

    • @kceresmatias
      @kceresmatias Рік тому +1

      "liberate the British citizens" yet the only 3 civilian casualties were caused by british fire.

  • @hiddenhistory6459
    @hiddenhistory6459 Рік тому

    Thank you, this video is promoting my Falklands videos.