I’m a longtime RAM owner, but I will not be buying another one until 1). They update to a larger cab. 2). They get rid of the dinky 6‘4“ bed… That’s ridiculous on a “heavy duty “truck, and 3). they definitely need a power and transmission upgrade.
Rumors seem to put to the 2500's getting the same new ZF transmission and engine output as the 3500's; a warm welcome as RAM's 3/4-ton has had the weakest power train in the segment forwhile now, and just as importantly, they need to increase the GVWR, at least as a package because although coil link offers a smoother ride, it simply doesn't make sense to not have at least an option to cater to payload capacity.
We’re all paying for the EV failure, the record UAW contract, and the fact that they can’t sell cars. So big SUV and trucks are BIG BUCKS (to make up for all that)…
Stellantis has sold a grand total of 146 BEVs in the US this quarter, none were made in the US. Ram heavy duty is made in Mexico. Heck Stellantis imports a large number of their junk.
@@BadoreksDailys I don’t doubt that at all. The proof in that is real. Those sales are down from people who want the latest and greatest and are probably too broke to purchase. However, if you spend any amount of time driving cross country over and over like I do (did over 30 hours in 2 days this week alone), the majority of Hotshots are RAMs. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Cummins with the Aisin just works. Best tool for the job. And who knows better than all the fellas who Hotshot for a living…
@@BadoreksDailys And I’m not biased. I don’t own a truck right now but I when I do, I want the truck that the guys trust for hauling big loads across country.
@@DarkHorse08 oh for sure! It’s the king of hotshot and people in the know for those types of things. Unfortunately, a large majority of what you see are 2023 and before.
The Duke says, after I wrecked my F-350 and totaled it out by hitting a cow. Yes a cow. I could have bought any truck I wanted. I was open-minded. I was one of the first people in Houston to buy a Dodge 3/4 ton Cummins back in 1990. After taking everything into consideration I chose to buy a 2023 Ford f550 chassis cab. 7.3 Godzilla gas. 16 ft flatbed. It's a beast. By the way I have been in the hot shot business since 1988. They call me Flatbed Ed. look it up. Most any new diesel nowadays will last maybe a hundred thousand miles before something serious goes wrong with it. They are problematic and expensive to repair. My last truck was a Ford 6.2 gas . It was bulletproof. I even had the original transmission at 948,000 mi when I totaled it out. In Texas where I am from, there are lots of dodges around but you can bet your ass there are more Fords. So far so good with my new truck. Only time will tell. What did I teach you?
The biggest shortcoming of the Ram 2500 is that it can only be had with a 10,000 lb GVWR. GM has a number of offerings from 10,000 to 11,750 lbs GVWR. And that explains why Ram has such a low payload rating. A loaded Ram 2500 with the CTD has a lower payload capacity than some GM half ton trucks. That's pretty ridiculous.
I am Canadian in the sub arctic cold. I got a 2023 RAM CLASSIC express crew cab night edition, V8. BASIC FEATURES. What is going on? Hurricane engine and all this electric vehicles? I reside in a -40°C to -50°C region.
A good truck, but now heavily discounted. Hard to sell with high interest rates, tight qualifications for auto loans, and high fuel costs. High EV development costs and rich UAW contract are going to make it very difficult to fund upgrades of ICE vehicles. Money is being spent on EV development.
They are leaving because the people who want to buy trucks can’t afford an 80k dollar truck at 8-10% interest rate if they wanna sell trucks they need to start in-house financing at like 3-4% interest rates
That’s not quite true, people can either afford a 80k truck or they can’t. $80,000 loan @ 4% for 84 months is about $1,100. 8% is about $1,250. Not that $150/ mo is nothing, but the guy that can “comfortably afford” $1,100 can also afford $1,250 just as easily. There’s also a lot more $50,000 trucks than there are $80,000. It’s not a 2-3% rate difference problem, it’s a $30,000 problem. Incentivized manufacturer rates won’t solve the bigger problem.
If Ram wanted to sell trucks, they'd bring back the regular cab short bed plain jane 1500. Put a stick, 4wd, and a choice or axle ratios and watch em run out the door.
@@melvingibson4525 True, but to get a regular cab, if you can find one, it will be a fleet and most folks don't even know they exist or how to get one. Trucks are not intended to have 4 doors.
Unfortunately, the French are closing down Dodge /Ram and Chrysler. Leaving only Jeep that has value across the world. Hopefully someone other than the CCP will buy the brand, otherwise it will disappear.
@@darrelwilcox8018 unless you have lived in Europe and delt with the French, you would have a difficult time understanding their very low opinion of us. Peugeot has control of Stellantis and their CEO has already beginning to fire the American engineers etc and is bringing in European management to all its US plants. Hopefully, Chrysler and Dodge can be sold off instead of shut down.
The only good thing about a ram is when you have a different company like Cummins. And a different company that builds the transmission. Otherwise they are junk! Nice looking, but unreliable!
I only bought mine because Ram was doing 20% incentives on 2023 HD models a few months ago. Otherwise there not worth anywhere near the MSRP currently.
Well, no truck is “worth” MSRP when there’s an abundance of inventory. It would just be a pain for me to go on and show what each one is actually for sale for, then 2 months later rebates change and some guy says our prices are too high or I’m “false advertising” etc. I think most people know rams have significant discounts at the moment
Stuff no one didn’t buy their trucks for 🤦♂️ 12” screen was plenty, I suppose you could do a “refresh” they still offer the H&K sound system. They’ve lost touch with who their consumer is, 80+% of Ram sales are to normal guys like me, like most people. Instead, they want to cater to >20% of the “luxury” folks. Also, the powertrain & features for the money is their problem. On paper, they’re way behind for the price. THATS the problem, not headlights 🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
Fiat ,Italian, that's what it has gone to. The only thing still positive about Ram is the Cummins engine. Ram sales will be no longer if that union ever becomes no more.
I think Ram put all thier resources into developing thier Electric REV and Ram Charger neglecting the ICE models. The 1500's are now up to date although I think they should have developed a new V8 to go along with the hurricane but the HD's are way behind the times. Why is it still using the 4th gen cab, should have been updated to the new cab when they did the update in 2020.
Possibly yeah. I would’ve liked them to do what Ford does. Ford offers several motor options. You can pick the one YOU want that best suits your needs / you think is the best option. If they had the v6, the Hemi, standard and high output Hurricane, as well as the hybrid it would be fine. However, the emissions restrictions is REALLY what killed it according to our rep. They would’ve had to redesign a huge portion of the HEMI, essentially choking it down so far that it could’ve come close to competing with the hurricane or other v8’s. Not sure if that’s true, but that’s what I’ve been told.
I’m a longtime RAM owner, but I will not be buying another one until 1). They update to a larger cab. 2). They get rid of the dinky 6‘4“ bed… That’s ridiculous on a “heavy duty “truck, and 3). they definitely need a power and transmission upgrade.
Big Rumours of Caterpillar entering the pickup truck market
Doesn't matter to me what Ram is doing. I will not be buying any of their junk. Stellantis is killing off CDJR.
Rumors seem to put to the 2500's getting the same new ZF transmission and engine output as the 3500's; a warm welcome as RAM's 3/4-ton has had the weakest power train in the segment forwhile now, and just as importantly, they need to increase the GVWR, at least as a package because although coil link offers a smoother ride, it simply doesn't make sense to not have at least an option to cater to payload capacity.
We’re all paying for the EV failure, the record UAW contract, and the fact that they can’t sell cars. So big SUV and trucks are BIG BUCKS (to make up for all that)…
Ram interiors are dope, but I think they were the first and highest increase late Covid…
Stellantis has sold a grand total of 146 BEVs in the US this quarter, none were made in the US. Ram heavy duty is made in Mexico. Heck Stellantis imports a large number of their junk.
Not sure if RAM is getting it handed to them when the majority of Hotshots I see are RAMs when I’m constantly driving all over the country.
New Ram sales are significantly lower than the others.
@@BadoreksDailys I don’t doubt that at all. The proof in that is real. Those sales are down from people who want the latest and greatest and are probably too broke to purchase. However, if you spend any amount of time driving cross country over and over like I do (did over 30 hours in 2 days this week alone), the majority of Hotshots are RAMs. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Cummins with the Aisin just works. Best tool for the job. And who knows better than all the fellas who Hotshot for a living…
@@BadoreksDailys And I’m not biased. I don’t own a truck right now but I when I do, I want the truck that the guys trust for hauling big loads across country.
@@DarkHorse08 oh for sure! It’s the king of hotshot and people in the know for those types of things. Unfortunately, a large majority of what you see are 2023 and before.
The Duke says, after I wrecked my F-350 and totaled it out by hitting a cow. Yes a cow. I could have bought any truck I wanted. I was open-minded. I was one of the first people in Houston to buy a Dodge 3/4 ton Cummins back in 1990. After taking everything into consideration I chose to buy a 2023 Ford f550 chassis cab. 7.3 Godzilla gas. 16 ft flatbed. It's a beast. By the way I have been in the hot shot business since 1988. They call me Flatbed Ed. look it up. Most any new diesel nowadays will last maybe a hundred thousand miles before something serious goes wrong with it. They are problematic and expensive to repair. My last truck was a Ford 6.2 gas . It was bulletproof. I even had the original transmission at 948,000 mi when I totaled it out. In Texas where I am from, there are lots of dodges around but you can bet your ass there are more Fords.
So far so good with my new truck. Only time will tell.
What did I teach you?
they dont want ford to know their numbers
The biggest shortcoming of the Ram 2500 is that it can only be had with a 10,000 lb GVWR. GM has a number of offerings from 10,000 to 11,750 lbs GVWR. And that explains why Ram has such a low payload rating. A loaded Ram 2500 with the CTD has a lower payload capacity than some GM half ton trucks. That's pretty ridiculous.
To do something it's always happens it's fine
Yup. This is why there's so many Ram 2500s sitting. There's no point to them.
I am Canadian in the sub arctic cold. I got a 2023 RAM CLASSIC express crew cab night edition, V8. BASIC FEATURES.
What is going on? Hurricane engine and all this electric vehicles? I reside in a -40°C to -50°C region.
I live in Arizona, 110+ frequently. Extreme cold like that or high levels of heat are certainly the toughest on power trains.
A good truck, but now heavily discounted. Hard to sell with high interest rates, tight qualifications for auto loans, and high fuel costs. High EV development costs and rich UAW contract are going to make it very difficult to fund upgrades of ICE vehicles. Money is being spent on EV development.
Great opportunity for Ram to market a total stripped single cab for less than 25k.
Man would I love that
They are leaving because the people who want to buy trucks can’t afford an 80k dollar truck at 8-10% interest rate if they wanna sell trucks they need to start in-house financing at like 3-4% interest rates
That’s not quite true, people can either afford a 80k truck or they can’t. $80,000 loan @ 4% for 84 months is about $1,100. 8% is about $1,250. Not that $150/ mo is nothing, but the guy that can “comfortably afford” $1,100 can also afford $1,250 just as easily. There’s also a lot more $50,000 trucks than there are $80,000. It’s not a 2-3% rate difference problem, it’s a $30,000 problem. Incentivized manufacturer rates won’t solve the bigger problem.
If Ram wanted to sell trucks, they'd bring back the regular cab short bed plain jane 1500. Put a stick, 4wd, and a choice or axle ratios and watch em run out the door.
You are completely wrong 95% of all cars sold in North America have automatic transmissions cuz you Americans are too lazy to shift yourself
The ram classic exists
@@melvingibson4525 True, but to get a regular cab, if you can find one, it will be a fleet and most folks don't even know they exist or how to get one. Trucks are not intended to have 4 doors.
The reason they stopped making them is that virtually nobody wanted one.
To expensive plain and simple all of them
Unfortunately, the French are closing down Dodge /Ram and Chrysler. Leaving only Jeep that has value across the world. Hopefully someone other than the CCP will buy the brand, otherwise it will disappear.
We’ll see!
Bullshit.
@@darrelwilcox8018 unless you have lived in Europe and delt with the French, you would have a difficult time understanding their very low opinion of us. Peugeot has control of Stellantis and their CEO has already beginning to fire the American engineers etc and is bringing in European management to all its US plants. Hopefully, Chrysler and Dodge can be sold off instead of shut down.
The only good thing about a ram is when you have a different company like Cummins. And a different company that builds the transmission. Otherwise they are junk! Nice looking, but unreliable!
I only bought mine because Ram was doing 20% incentives on 2023 HD models a few months ago. Otherwise there not worth anywhere near the MSRP currently.
Well, no truck is “worth” MSRP when there’s an abundance of inventory. It would just be a pain for me to go on and show what each one is actually for sale for, then 2 months later rebates change and some guy says our prices are too high or I’m “false advertising” etc. I think most people know rams have significant discounts at the moment
I saw 10%
I quit buying trucks when they quit putting straight shifts in them.
Then you never needed a truck.
@@AlaskaErikmy 2015 2500 diesel has a straight shift. Thank you very little.
Well the 14 inch radio, ruining the tail lights, oh. And they changing the stereo brand…🤷♂️🤦♂️
Stuff no one didn’t buy their trucks for 🤦♂️ 12” screen was plenty, I suppose you could do a “refresh” they still offer the H&K sound system.
They’ve lost touch with who their consumer is, 80+% of Ram sales are to normal guys like me, like most people. Instead, they want to cater to >20% of the “luxury” folks.
Also, the powertrain & features for the money is their problem. On paper, they’re way behind for the price. THATS the problem, not headlights 🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
Fiat ,Italian, that's what it has gone to. The only thing still positive about Ram is the Cummins engine. Ram sales will be no longer if that union ever becomes no more.
Junk
lol
Go away
They certainly not reliable if you live in the rust belt you will see these trucks rusted out in 3 years or so
Yea especially Silverados and tundras
I think Ram put all thier resources into developing thier Electric REV and Ram Charger neglecting the ICE models. The 1500's are now up to date although I think they should have developed a new V8 to go along with the hurricane but the HD's are way behind the times. Why is it still using the 4th gen cab, should have been updated to the new cab when they did the update in 2020.
Possibly yeah. I would’ve liked them to do what Ford does. Ford offers several motor options. You can pick the one YOU want that best suits your needs / you think is the best option. If they had the v6, the Hemi, standard and high output Hurricane, as well as the hybrid it would be fine. However, the emissions restrictions is REALLY what killed it according to our rep. They would’ve had to redesign a huge portion of the HEMI, essentially choking it down so far that it could’ve come close to competing with the hurricane or other v8’s. Not sure if that’s true, but that’s what I’ve been told.