If the legal age was 12, these men would date them on their 12th birthday. There is already some man trying to legally make 12 legal. HOLD YOUR DAUGHTERS TIGHT PEOPLE! Keep them close, innocent, and focused on school because these men are predators.
Say it Again!! But don't believe its just older nasty men like this pervert..nowadays its older women. Older girls in college are trying to "mentor" I mean Groom your little middle school child. Older women in their late 20s and 30s are getting in the predatory game too. Hide your children! Keep an eye on relatives and family "friends". The Devil is out here walking.
i feel like 25-34 is a perfect spot on dating. Im 29 but 19 i dnt fully know what the girl will be when shes older and over 34 most of the good females are taken already. 25 thur 34 you can kindof tell how the female will turn out if you pay attention so you can avoid a problem if red flags pop up. Also like 19 year olds are not focused on any goal fr they still young. By 25 a normal girl should know what she wants to be and done with the party every weekend phase
Older woman have rotten eggs, he wants those fresh eggs. Either way, ain’t no way I’m taking a woman with a kid unless the daddy is dead then I might consider.
@@mattmasteringer4399 older men’s sperm causes fertility issues and are leading causes of miscarriages. The older your sperm, the higher your child will have mental or health issues.
Molding a young woman is call grooming 😢. Listening to these callers reinforces why I’m single. Charlemagne is right, these men have so many insecurities and lack emotional intelligence. It’s sad.
Will you let your son marry a woman with kids by another man and take care of another man’s kid. I would never accept marry a woman with a kid. It’s too much baggage.
These type of men aren’t concerned about baggage they are concerned with wisdom that they deem as baggage. I don’t know any woman that has the same self confidence and self awareness as the did as a teenager.
@Ms B he can go for 30 easily most women @ 40 something can't not even the pretty one's. But yall want attractive men that's aging well getting without female that's not
They say they want a woman of God or a woman that's a virgin, but they themselves are not virgins or men of God themselves. It's a complete double standard they put on women but never hold themselves to the same standards.
A lot of times, men choose younger women because they need their ego stroked. If you listen to what Marques said he said, "he would never want to be with a woman that felt like she didn't need him". That is not something to boast or be proud about. Instead, that is a sure sign that his self-esteem is low, that he has issues with his own self worth. If you "need" anyone outside of you to make you feel "needed" that is codependency at its finest. We'll see how long this last.
What's the purpose of having someone as as partner that doesn't need you? Where's the commitment if you're expendable? That's not a sign of low self esteem, that's a sign of someone who knows their worth and wants to be valued as such.
@@MJFlairs men are so annoying. Ya'll want to be coddled, praised, and loved like children and a lover, and that shit is weird asf. Ya''ll are predators. You want something easy and controllable.
Marques Houston met this girl when she was 16 or 17 through "a mutual friend" and he said he didn't communicate or interact with her until she was of age. NIGGA PLEASE! You may have waited to smash until she was of age (and that's questionable!) but you were involved with her as a teenager and you were a grown ass man! He said all the things groomers say and did what groomers to make that young girl fall for him. She wasn't even ALIVE when he was poppin! He said that it was like talking with himself when getting to know her. So is he that emotionally and maturely stunted in his life that he was on par with a teenager?!? GTFOH!!
I’ve had a 45-year-old tell me that he’s looking to date 18 and up because women his age are “set in their ways.” Meanwhile he had a 17 year old daughter 🤨🫣🥴 it’s all about grooming and control. They want to be the first person to give that child certain experiences, so that they will never be forgotten. Very very creepy and I wish more young girls understood this. Notice they always go after girls whose brains aren’t fully developed yet, so that they can morph it to their liking
That’s the way you see it but the way men actually see it is most older women who are 30 and still dating means they been through a lot already and men don’t like that because that means other men have left an imprint on women already. Call it creepy but that’s just reality
That's what I'm saying? And the whole thing he said about older women not needing him is kinda stupid answer..like why? Cause she can support herself financially now and doesn't need to depend on anyone?
No again I would encourage you to actually listen to the interview which is on UA-cam and other podcast and he goes into detail of how they met I've been to high school with girls who got married at 18 to dudes that were in college who were in there early to mid-20s so is that considered bad?
I'm 31 and not trying to date a woman under the age of 28. It kinda sounds like he was a woman to be completely dependent on him... it's crazy how some of these dudes feel so offended that some women say they don't need a man.
I do think that there is a healthy balance of dependence between men and women. I dont think its beneficial to the human race for people to be independent. We are social creatures so operating alone is inhumane to one's self in a way. With that being said, I think theres a fine line between grooming and having a healthy balance of dependence. Considering his past it does appear he chose a victim instead of a partner.
It took me a long time to learn the game but I learned to that a man wants a woman to completely depend on him so that she doesn't leave him. Where is she going to go if he strips her of everything? Job. Friends. Family. She's gonna depend on him for everything and that's what he wants. They know that an independent woman can get up at any given moment and walk out with their head held high.
Charlamange is speaking more sense than ever! I’m so happy that he’s viewing it from the perspective of his wife & daughters. He truly understands the importance of speaking light into your daughters for them to make sound decisions & that his wife has a voice in the marriage. He’s also ceasing the narrative that older women are no longer valuable & damaged goods. I don’t think anyone should get into a relationship with the intention to manipulate. Everyone is entitled to a fair shake even if they’ve been through a few things. The past can either make or break the future & grooming should never be on the table.
@@rogers5622 y’all are ridiculous, so because she’s a foster child he shouldn’t date her. Y’all doing the Devil work, that ma loves his wife long as he’s not abusing her he good. Ok she’s younger so what, they have a child she’s 22 & got a whatever she wants most people old bats will never have that. She won
chances are if you're 40 dating a 19yr old woman, you WILL become their baggage....she's gonna be 30 and divorced talking about how she got married too young...he could've dated younger without going SO YOUNG...mid-twenties and early thirties exist too
@@flyguy7825 no but I've know many girls who at 19-20 dated 40-50yr olds...none of them are still with them now, and many realized how they were being seen as controllable...
@@marcblair3781 OK and I know several girls who have married guys who are older than they were and they're still happily married with a family so again everything is not all as black and white.
@@klimaxxx06 they still gonna be in your life for parties, reunions and for PROBLEMS. It’s not like once they grown you never see them again or that they don’t need help when they got problems. Hell, there are grown adults still living with their parents in this economy and whatnot. The point is that regardless if they are grown, they will always be in your life and they recur to parents when they need something. It’s all baggage regardless of age
This is something that recently happened to me. I'm 35 and recently had a 23 year old show interest in me. I did not reciprocate. My cousins were clowning me because I told them that I did not like her because of the age difference. The bottom line, the mentality of a women in her early 20's is going to be different from a man in his mid 30's IMO
When i was 29 i was dating a 24 year old and when i tell you the mental gap was lightyears between us. It's amazing how much a 24 year old has to grow up to mentally relate to a almost 30 yr old. Smh if we met now we'd probably match a lot better but oh well haha
I feel you. I was 31 and was dating a 19 year old. Conversation was good but mentally we were on different pages and I did the respectful thing in letting her go.
the thing is a woman in their 20´s tend to cheat on you more often because they got tons of options so they dont really take life seriously until they get to their mid 20’s
Heads up to the older men who date younger woman because they don’t have “baggage” guess what? YOU WILL BE HER BAGGAGE. When she turns 25-30 and realizes what a gross predatory person you were and she leaves? You will be the baggage.
@@goofynigga8456 nobody said 19-20 was a minor but it’s very telling that you wanna date people only a few years out of highschool with NO experience or understanding of what’s a healthy relationship yet. Y’all always tell on yourselves lol
19 is wild lol. Charla was spot on! The way they LOVE to throw this "I don't need a man" garbage on older women comes off really insecure. It's not enough to be WANTED but they have to feel NEEDED for EVERYTHING. It's insane. All grown adults should be self-sufficient human beings. All these old men talking about how older women have baggage... if we are the same age, wtf do you have?? Hmmmmm??? And Mike with his 4 kids needs to go somewhere.
Are u mad she picked him... an we ain't the same cuz if something dangerous happens for some reason u get to leave with the kids am live we gotta stay an die
Y’all say that now but the goal post was moved when it’s a different subject. Before y’all were saying a man needs to step up and provide everything and y’all need to be one. Now you throwing out being self sufficient lol not hating but it always moves when older guy nah younger girls. It takes 2 to tango. 🤷🏽♂️
👁 👁 👄 I am 52 and SNATCHED just right( naturally) and I get mistaken ALL the time for 36 👀my daughter is 35 getting ready to sit for her PHD 🎓proud momma I am👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙂
Charlamagne is absolutely CORRECT! We older gals are killing it! We are in better shape, confident, have wisdom, are financially stable, and know how to treat our man.
Exactly, and a lot of us women are choosing not to have kids or start a little later. So I’m not sure what baggage they are referring to, when it comes to women of 30+
Oh I agree 100% Marque Houston doesn't know anybody anything listening he married her at 19 she's was over 21 now it is what it is I think the reasons behind it are very misguided and rooted in way too many unfair stereotypes but that's him if he would've just said hey look I've dated around older and younger and I found that she was the right one for me and just left it like that I think to a degree he wouldn't of had a problem but he goes into this thing saying there's way too much baggage for women his age or older was way too much.
That's right I'm 40plus and my body still look 25 🤷🏿♀️ and I don't have any kids yet. I hate how we bash "older" "mature" women especially black ones. Much love to all my 40 plus women. We are killing em, they can't take our intelligence, wisdom and confidence. We are not here to stroke your ego because you are insecure. 🤷🏿♀️
The real issue here is as men we got to stop sending our daughters out there telling them find a man that can take care of them like their Dad. Those women with that mentality are looking for their Daddies or Zaddies. We have to let them know. Hey find a man that will love you for who you are and not what is only on the outside. Always present yourself as feminie and sweet. Don't accept disrespect that is true disrespect and always talk to him like you respect him even if you don't. Don't look for a man like me because I love you because you are my child. My love is different than the man you will be sleeping with.
this is true but the thing is there need to be more men with this kind of mentality out here for women to be safe with, its too many predatorial men out here, so even if women had their head on straight it wouldnt make a difference because the men out here arent right.
That caller was right. MH groomed her the same way Chris Stokes groomed him & those other little boys. When she ages, she will have the same baggage he’s avoiding. MH is that young lady’s baggage.
@@se3478 not strange. Charla said multiple times that he doesn’t like doing rumor reports & adding to gossip. Media outlets won’t even play Raz B’s interview where he said what Chris Stokes did to them.
Lol groomed? She’s a grown adult? She’s allowed to have her preferences (older men) and he can have his. People too pressed about other peoples opinions. Y’all need Stoicism lol don’t need to agree just move on with your life
Let me tell you, my body and whole being looks better now that I am 40 years old. I eat healthier, am happier, educated, fun, a great mother, a lover, and exercise. I live life!
As a 41 year old with no baggage, I can tell you that’s a cop out. Dudes love baggage whether they dealing with a chick that got it, or they are being/creating her baggage. All he is doing is getting the bags ready, in a few years he’s gonna be her baggage for the man she should actually be with, someone her own age.
@Tevin1627 everyone has trauma. That's what you forget to acknowledge. You yourself have trauma. If you don't handle it accordingly, at any age you gonna be fxcked up.
This child has been through a lot soo she possibly already has baggage which he is adding onto and her baggage and trauma possibly made it easier for him to "mold" her coz she was lost ran from home at 16 and he "saved" her I agree with you
Men choose younger women because of what envy said. They can mold them they aren’t as seasoned with opinions and goals. Or barely know love’s experience. So she’s losing out and he’s losing out as well. Because he’s repeating things she hasn’t done in life and she’s being restricted of it because he’s already done it. So it’s really not a win. No logic in it. If your mindset can dwindle down to a younger age after you have lived life I question the person.
That's not true at all that is just another misnomer based upon his misguided stereotypical point of view typically men men that I know of in every day lies I would say probably half of them one woman around her age or a little bit younger depending upon how old they are the same goes for women but there is a clear double standard and all of that.The men I know and I've talk to you when it comes to younger women is that younger women sometimes are more willing to try and do new things versus a woman who's older who isn't as open minded as someone who is younger that has absolutely nothing to do with molding anybody or they wanna be around someone who has very young full personality Don't use this word groom and mold way too many times when it comes to that
@@flyguy7825 bro. Please. Read what I stated. Your contradicting yourself. Saying it’s not true when you just wrote a man like younger women because younger woman is willing to try new things. Which is an act of “molding” sir. Y’all have to read in its entirety before commenting. And be dead ass wrong. We don’t men u know your life is very small compared to the masses it’s much of a broader topic then what one person experience in his life. So. I beg to differ and also digress
Not true at all!! Younger girls are less drama and less BITTER lol ive dated older and younger and younger is fun and dont have an attitude over basic lil things that a simple conversation can clear up. Older women tend to ASSUME the negative before even getting facts. So men choose younger to be happy and stress-free...has nothing with molding and control.
Literally . And he said it (without saying it). Not us lol.. And as if he doesn't have baggage.. he's weak. Nothing but excuses, a woman any age will soften up if we can trust you & feel protected. Charlemagne on point
I'm a 31 year old virgin no baggage no kids just a fun teacher and writer enjoying my life. He doesn't need to attack women he doesn't know and make assumptions. Just enjoy yourself and your marital life. As long as they love and respect each other. He married her and she's a woman not a child. Who cares? But don't speak on us older chicks like we're all the same. I have young dudes trying to be with me as much as older but I don't want either. I myself don't want baggage or childish drama lol. People are diff just let us live ❤
You're a teacher and don't understand a generalization ? He's talking to the 8 out of 10 women. Maybe not you but you gotta know you're not the norm as a 31yr old virgin.
Your an anonomly if that’s the case but 99 percent of women your age who are still dating and not settled or in the process of getting settled are deff coming with some experiences that affects the way they mate with men and are more likely to divorce. They’re are studies on this. Majority of men prefer younger women that’s just basic biology there’s a reason most women past age 35 who have kids carry higher risk of miscarriage or some birth defect with they’re children. Even biology is telling them it’s getting late to have kids
@@jcvelez915 idk mostly women have perfectly fine kids up to late 30s. There are some cases. It depends on health and heredity as well. My mom had us late np. Megan markle had hers so late np. Amal Clooney. These are famous cases so we all know them but many average women do everyday. Many young women can't or have complications that are worse than older women. It's all diff honestly. And then there's women who can't have kids regardless of age. Plus advanced med and tech now allow women to get pregnant easily. Either way again let people liiiive! Everyone is diff and everyone is unique! I'm not worried about kids I never wanted any. My last ex didn't either. I still left but yea I don't mind and would love more to be with a man who doesn't want kids or has his grown kids somewhere away from us lol.
This is actually comical because I’m a 40 year old woman and my 20 year old son tells me all the time some girls his age are immature and lazy when it comes to hygiene and housekeeping!🤔
I swear to God a man in his 20's said the same thing to me and my friends. He said younger women want to live this soft life but they confuse soft with doing nothing. No cooking no cleaning hell they don't even know how to was they ass right His words not mine😅
Shit the women in their late 30s early 40s a lot of them that I know don’t cook either and I myself dealt with a women in her 40s that had bad hygiene issues it’s not always the age just sayin 🤷🏾♂️
That’s they’re parents fault. Also it makes sense if girls at that age are dating boys they’re age because at that age boys only want one thing really at least older men want a little more value than just the p****
The only thing I can derive from a man in Marques Houston’s situation, making a statement such as he doesn’t like dating women, his own age, because they come with baggage is that he’s basically telling the world that he can’t handle any kind of challenges in his life. So, when this young lady starts to grow into her own and become a different person, he’ll have to deal with a wife who has a mind of her own. But hey, if they like it, I love it.
Why would a man opt for a woman with baggage when they don't have to deal with it, he had options and he chose who he wanted, if he and his wife have any baggage it was created between the two of them and they will deal with it, it's better than dealing with baggage you had no part in creating
@@369pendulum no matter what, every marriage faces some kind of trial and tribulation and eventually if they stay married long enough, they’re going to come across some challenging times. Therefore, he gives me I can’t handle any kind of challenging times or a woman who is going to be anything other than a puppet. I just wonder if he will run at the first sight of trouble.
@@mytubeison not wanting an old head with baggage =/= he can’t handle challenges. He had to handle a lot of challenges to get there in the first place 🤷♂️
Having your own mind and life is way different from being in 30 different relationships most of them being toxic then on top of that you been on the cock carousel for the last 2 decades your traumatized to the max and most older women never really change there just stuck in there ways and then it’s always I don’t want a man I don’t need em and not being able to compromise on anything that’s is what marquis Houston is saying and younger women are easier to kind of coach into being the strongest tv fit & feminine women that there supposed to be instead of dealing with an old toxic traumatized women who won’t change her ways
First off y'all keep miss quoting MH... I think each to their own.. I know people on both ends of the spectrum. But can say when I was 17/18 I wasn't trying to get a new daddy 😂😂😂😂
I am glad the first caller brought up the Marcus Houston allegations. He was accused of r@ping Raz B. He was also accused of grooming his child bride, who conveniently went missing but once she turned 18 reappeared and was in a relationship with him. The only thing I disagree with is the Chris Brown part. Anytime I try to bring up Chris Brown's past (and current) bad behavior, his stans are on the attack.
Ill be 30 this year (single no kids). I date younger and older women but for me, the difference is: dating younger women is less pressure. you can have fun with them & take your time while getting your shit together because they are too. You can evn be intentional with the right one but you have more time on your side. As opposed to women my age and older, u dont have time. they are looking to settle down because a lot of them feel they dnt have time n thats when they might put pressure on you. plus its alot that im trying to accomplish before I Settle down. Hopefully any other men or even women share this same sentiment.
Society has indoctrinated women to believe that being this boss babe is going to make you more attractive to men. The sad reality is that all they are doing to pricing themselves out of the dating market. The more money and status a woman attains, she wants someone across or above her in money and status. The more money and status a man makes the more attractive he is to a wider demographic of women. Because he can and will date beneath him. If you give a man unlimited wealth and status he will almost always date younger. If you maximize a women's beauty she will almost always date older. It's been this way since the beginning of time.
If a woman is a certain age and still single. The statement “I don’t need a man or person to do for me” is just facts. That does not mean she does not WANT a man to do for her. She didn’t make it as far as she did with that “need”
So he's going after young women because he wants someone that's dependent on him and he can mold very healthy lol. You basically said you want someone to manipulate and mold the problem is you are still you and will probably do that young girl dirty and breakup and you'll become the baggage on her that you complain about.
Not EVERYBODY age gracefully. A lot don't celebrate self care. And it's a lot of women out here that boast about being an adult makes them special. You can have your own car, house, business, but it still doesn't define you as a person.
*This will always be a loaded topic* ... attention all men in the comment section THIS IS NOT OUR DISCCUSSION. Let the ladies young, and old have an open, and honest convo with each other. Sit this one out
The whole "Baggage" thing is BS, its all about control. I can't tell you how many single guys I know that have said this or something similar. They think any women that's in their 30s and up are "ran through" which to them means they've fucked around when really its just adulting. They think women 22 and under are "fresh" and don't have "baggage" which is just weird. Its all about grooming and control because they lack the ability to talk to women their age.
And they have so much of they own baggage they probably scared to put it on a grown woman. Only a child would marry Marcus accused of doing the unthinkable Houston. He has a lot of backdoor baggage. Smh
@@rasulsamad5860 Im a happily taken man who is 30 with a woman who's 28. Go get yourself a woman your age and stop preying on naive inexperienced little girls.
It’s all fun and games when she’s 19-30 but by 30 he’s gonna be in his 60’s and she just gonna cheat on him with someone her own age. Anyone whose dated older men when they were younger knows.
*Never take advice from a woman do what you want to do. Do what makes you happy. Most older women are for smashin only. Women are always trying to dictate what men should do instead of looking in the mirror. Women purposely try to put down men for their decisions because of their own insecurities* 🤣
I recently dated a man who is 49 I’m 31, it was HORRIBLE.. His mind was like a 15yr old he was trying to tell me what to do but be coddled at the same time which was weird cause I thought he had it together he came off so mature but I was definitely wrong and he has a daughter a year younger than me
When i was 20, dated a guy the same age. Relationship ended when we were 24, I ended it because he didn't have it together mentally and emotionally. Fast forward, we reconnected in 2021, 30 years later, we are both 55. Unfortunately, it ended after 5 months over the samething. This time he admitted he was emotionally unavailable and said he was too old for a real relationship. Even though he's 55, his mindset was still of a 24 year old. He hasn't chaned one bit. Before we reconnected, he was dating someone 19 years younger, a 34 year old. He said it didn't work out because she was irresponsible with money and didn't like her kind of music.
I’m so glad that Char is speaking facts to these dudes!! Do u understand how ridiculous it is for grown men to be talking about body count, that’s high school shit. Also I am sick & tired of men telling women that their body count doesn’t count & money mattes more to us, NO TF IT DOESNT & for some women body count matters to them. It’s such a cop out double standard that a man can have a past & he ran through but it’s ok if they have money but a woman is stuck being judged on her past no matter if she’s grown & evolved. If our past matters so does mens pasts. Ppl need to stop appraising humans as if they are cars, like stop tallying “body count” as if it’s miles on a vehicle bcuz it isn’t the same.
“Mold” sounds a lot like “Groom” to me. He wants to be able to manipulate and control that young girl. Her father did not do his job of another grown man feels like he can mold this young lady
Men have “groomed” their wives since the beginning of time. The only difference now is the women’s independence movement and this era of “toxic masculinity” where women declare that they need no man .
I was waaaaaay more harder to “control” in my eighteens thru twenties and waaaaaaay more easier to “groom” now in my thirties bcuz I value men more now than I did then.
As I am listening to this segment… I am hearing and seeing that there is a lot of men that are out here hating women just cause of age and how many babies women have and they are not considering that MEN ARE THE ONES THAT CAUSE THIS!!! this world is crazy…
He a bozo u mean standing up for old over the hill woman who beauty has left them an they are unmarried unwanted not desired and have plenty.of attitude .. no thank you
Not every woman has 'baggage.' I'm 38 having my 1st healthy natural baby with my husband. My husband met me with 0 baggage and we support/need eachother. I'm with Charla on this. Times are changing. Young girls coming up don't have a damn thing on me😂.
I wouldn’t want my 19 year old daughter with a 40 year old man… I would be very apprehensive about the age difference! I would think he has some suspicious plans!!
What bothers me is how young you still look at that teenage age (not all but enough). So someone in their 30s or older to look at you and be attracted to you makes me a little suspicious
What kind of "plans" would he have? Why is it immediate suspicion for the guy? Most women prefer men who are leaders, established, who make more money, are taller, and more experienced. A lot of women who date men their age claim they're "immature, lazy, and can't keep up financially."
@@bellaapple2166 lol wheres the outrage when girls looking for sugar daddys or they have one?? Its always period sis yass sis and all that. And the age gaps are WAY worse then this lol
If a older man pursue a younger woman yall call him predatory.. but if a younger woman seeks out older men yall be like "get that bag sis". She's 19 which is legal. I personally wont settle down with a woman thats over 6yrs younger than me. I'd have fun with them but thats it. But 19 is still legal.. If yall claim shes too young because they are naive and immature then they should also be too young to vote, too young to have an onlyfans and too young to go off to war. Y'all can't gate keep on what age is mature or not
Facts And point out the age of consent in some states in 17 And from what I could tell from a lot of these comments they think that's way too young well if the age of consent is 17 then they need to go to complain about that to the state laws and Congress
Marquettes Houston's wife was on the back on milk carton MISSING at one time. Let's not miss that point. Also we ain't forgot what Raz B and Quintin Tarver alleged.
I’m 25 now, looking back to when I was 19, dating older guys… there’s so so so so much I would not accept now. His marriage is honestly disgusting and he completely GROOMED her. I’m happy this is getting the attention it should bc when they first got married I thought it was CRAZY
When you're 20 and she's 20, she don't like you cause you're broke. So when you get some money and now you're over 30, you may wanna go back and get what you couldn't before. I get it
@@billybadass9357 nah they have baggages not many people are interested being a step daddy. Or deal with the after effect of club/ college party/ Miami trips/ mexico trips. At the end of everything u want 2 get married. Dudes are not going 4 tht anymore prime example is brittany renner
Older people date younger is for control and for someone to depend on them. They are insecure which is why someone their age may not work because someone their age isn't putting up with the mess.
I'm 34. I have nieces who are in their early twenties that I helped raise. I want to be a good example to them and maintain the respect they have for me. I can't do that if I'm dating someone who could've been in the same homeroom with them.
Honestly I feel that the issue is nobody wants to help each other unpack each other baggage or have grace with each other during our healing. Are older people gonna have baggage? Yes. The last line from Queen and Slim is really important. How she'll never let go of his hand and how he would kiss all her scars. That is what a lot of folks aren't willing to do. Marques isn't gonna kiss a healing woman's scars....he's gonna go find a woman who doesn't have any yet.
@@gerryo25 True but that's why I also stated have grace with each other during the process. The reality is going to therapy doesn't alleviate someone of their baggage. Sometimes it just teaches you how to manage it. But even like Charla had to go to therapy during his marriage and his wife supported him in that. Most won't.
@@jasmynmedia5649 Because it's emotional taxing to deal with other people's baggage. Instead of taking time and working on yourself and being single someone else has to deal with your baggage and trauma. I think that's selfish. Like he said you end up inflicting your trauma on someone else because you have issues and they have to deal with it? Nope!
I don’t recall Marques saying he wanted to mold a woman in any of the clips I watched online. I also wonder how many people actually watched his unsung episode to get the full context not just clickbait via social media
Some Older women refuse to have any additional kids after having multiple children with one or more men, so should that suffer in not having a child because of what most older women refuse to do for this man??
No one is forcing you to date older women who already have children or don’t want any more. What kind of nonsense argument is that? The dude is literally a male celebrity. He is in his 40s and was rich from a young age. He could’ve easily had a child at any point. He could have been married. Instead, he waited after his fertility and genetic quality had declined significantly. He chose to groom an underage girl. Give me a break
And why do people in general look at other older people whether men or women as someone with baggage rather than someone with substance and experience?? Not all baggage is bad baggage. Some men though want toys and fun and others want that substance. We all have diff presences and shouldn't be attacked for it.
People nowadays can have baggage really young. When I first heard her age when I saw their engagement photos, I was concerned. I heard the rumors about her being a runaway and that was dismissed as untrue. I said all this to say maybe she does have baggage and that is what attracted them to each other. At 19, you don’t entertain men that much older than you when you’re solid with a father figure. I don’t know her life but from seeing and hearing about young women that age, it’s a high possibility that is a huge factor in it. I’m 32 and I would never date a man that is 21 years old. The youngest I would go is maybe 27 28 years old and they have to be mature and at a stable place in life. Some older cats aren’t mature and are of that party mindset. What I heard from this audio clip is that he’s the type that needs to be needed and his heart went to this young girl because she makes him feel needed. I get wanting to be needed but, it can get unhealthy and cause problems if that’s what you lead with and base your decisions in your relationship with. Honestly this Marques Houston is way different than MH a long time ago. His whole views on relationships and religion are vastly different than mine. But Godspeed to them. It will be what it will be.
there's no way I could marry a girl who can't drink at our wedding.
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I'm 34 and my limit is 25 any younger I feel weird
If you don't have millions of dollars or financially stable then i understand
Marques Houston knew this woman as a child in 2016 prior to her “becoming legal.” That shit is predatory.
Exactly!! She was 16
@@getithowyoulive2. okay do your thang!!! Some people find that okay!!! I don’t
@@getithowyoulive2. you’re sick! what’s the obsession with youth?
@@getithowyoulive2. mane, anytime “In certain states…” is a rebuttal?! The call is coming from inside the house!
It's giving Woody Allen
If the legal age was 12, these men would date them on their 12th birthday. There is already some man trying to legally make 12 legal. HOLD YOUR DAUGHTERS TIGHT PEOPLE! Keep them close, innocent, and focused on school because these men are predators.
They're sick.
As a mother of two daughters, it's sad and disgusting. So many see nothing wrong with it.
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Exactly! Sitting back looking at baby pics and keeping tabs.
Say it Again!! But don't believe its just older nasty men like this pervert..nowadays its older women. Older girls in college are trying to "mentor" I mean Groom your little middle school child. Older women in their late 20s and 30s are getting in the predatory game too. Hide your children! Keep an eye on relatives and family "friends". The Devil is out here walking.
He doesn’t date women his age simply because no woman his age is going to put up with his BS and younger women are easier to MANIPULATE! 🙄🤷🏽♀️
No, he just do want a run through hard head women in his life
i feel like 25-34 is a perfect spot on dating. Im 29 but 19 i dnt fully know what the girl will be when shes older and over 34 most of the good females are taken already. 25 thur 34 you can kindof tell how the female will turn out if you pay attention so you can avoid a problem if red flags pop up. Also like 19 year olds are not focused on any goal fr they still young. By 25 a normal girl should know what she wants to be and done with the party every weekend phase
Older woman have rotten eggs, he wants those fresh eggs. Either way, ain’t no way I’m taking a woman with a kid unless the daddy is dead then I might consider.
@@mattmasteringer4399 older men’s sperm causes fertility issues and are leading causes of miscarriages. The older your sperm, the higher your child will have mental or health issues.
Smh.... and you got that from..... what statement lol?
That sounds like your blaming him for speaking facts on this issue.
Molding a young woman is call grooming 😢. Listening to these callers reinforces why I’m single. Charlemagne is right, these men have so many insecurities and lack emotional intelligence. It’s sad.
Insecurities and emotional issues equals baggage. They have that baggage they claim women have
That’s silly
Will you let your son marry a woman with kids by another man and take care of another man’s kid. I would never accept marry a woman with a kid. It’s too much baggage.
yes its grooming, but Thats why on their wedding day, theyre called the bride and the groom.....
No baby you’re single because you’re not in shape have a short hair cut and probably want a top 10% guy.
A 36 year old dude and a 17 old girl is wild. There's no excuse for that foolishness
He was 38 she was 19.
He is now 41 years old and she's 21-22
@@Foxx3K that's when they got married...they had to know each other prior to that.
The little girl was run a way so she certainly has baggage. Probably more baggage than a lot of us.
These type of men aren’t concerned about baggage they are concerned with wisdom that they deem as baggage. I don’t know any woman that has the same self confidence and self awareness as the did as a teenager.
Charlamange is making soooooo much sense on this one. This conversation is insane. Father's need to beware of men like Marques Houston.
He looks his age doesn't have a choice. Marquis Houston looks young
Given what we know about her troubled family life. She probably didn’t have a good male role model
@@rasulsamad5860 he look his age to me
@Ms B he can go for 30 easily most women @ 40 something can't not even the pretty one's. But yall want attractive men that's aging well getting without female that's not
50 year old men who devalue women like this while simultaneously giving themselves grace for the same behavior... it's giving sociopathic behavior.
They say they want a woman of God or a woman that's a virgin, but they themselves are not virgins or men of God themselves. It's a complete double standard they put on women but never hold themselves to the same standards.
My thoughts exactly!!!
A lot of times, men choose younger women because they need their ego stroked. If you listen to what Marques said he said, "he would never want to be with a woman that felt like she didn't need him". That is not something to boast or be proud about. Instead, that is a sure sign that his self-esteem is low, that he has issues with his own self worth. If you "need" anyone outside of you to make you feel "needed" that is codependency at its finest. We'll see how long this last.
What's the purpose of having someone as as partner that doesn't need you? Where's the commitment if you're expendable? That's not a sign of low self esteem, that's a sign of someone who knows their worth and wants to be valued as such.
Marques now is chasing younger females to find love that means he never wanted love his whole life ! He now wants that which is a lil tricky nowadays
@@MJFlairs men are so annoying. Ya'll want to be coddled, praised, and loved like children and a lover, and that shit is weird asf. Ya''ll are predators. You want something easy and controllable.
In a relationship, nobody should "need" either. Simply, it's who either would want.
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If you could, explain what you need a significant other for? Also, why that significant other would need you? Serious questions...
Marques Houston met this girl when she was 16 or 17 through "a mutual friend" and he said he didn't communicate or interact with her until she was of age. NIGGA PLEASE! You may have waited to smash until she was of age (and that's questionable!) but you were involved with her as a teenager and you were a grown ass man! He said all the things groomers say and did what groomers to make that young girl fall for him. She wasn't even ALIVE when he was poppin! He said that it was like talking with himself when getting to know her. So is he that emotionally and maturely stunted in his life that he was on par with a teenager?!? GTFOH!!
If only you got groomed smh you just had unemployed bum wanna be thugs
I’ve had a 45-year-old tell me that he’s looking to date 18 and up because women his age are “set in their ways.” Meanwhile he had a 17 year old daughter 🤨🫣🥴 it’s all about grooming and control. They want to be the first person to give that child certain experiences, so that they will never be forgotten. Very very creepy and I wish more young girls understood this. Notice they always go after girls whose brains aren’t fully developed yet, so that they can morph it to their liking
and they'll tell her she's mature for her age cuz she'll eat it up at that age.
I had sex with a woman that was older and I was the same age as her son. Was she wrong?
Smh sad 😞
Growing up girls always said they want to date older guys
That’s the way you see it but the way men actually see it is most older women who are 30 and still dating means they been through a lot already and men don’t like that because that means other men have left an imprint on women already. Call it creepy but that’s just reality
So do men his age not have baggage? lol. He married her at 19 so he was involved with her when she was a child. Yuck.
That's what I'm saying? And the whole thing he said about older women not needing him is kinda stupid answer..like why? Cause she can support herself financially now and doesn't need to depend on anyone?
No again I would encourage you to actually listen to the interview which is on UA-cam and other podcast and he goes into detail of how they met I've been to high school with girls who got married at 18 to dudes that were in college who were in there early to mid-20s so is that considered bad?
And if a woman chooses not to deal w a man because of said baggage that's fine too. So what's the issue?
Old women can't have babies and that cat has been too many bodies😂
@@dec2567 so that means start at 17?
I'm 31 and not trying to date a woman under the age of 28. It kinda sounds like he was a woman to be completely dependent on him... it's crazy how some of these dudes feel so offended that some women say they don't need a man.
im 31 also and i wont go any lower than 25, super young chicks are annoying af
@@TopFlightSecurity415 Facts.
I do think that there is a healthy balance of dependence between men and women. I dont think its beneficial to the human race for people to be independent. We are social creatures so operating alone is inhumane to one's self in a way.
With that being said, I think theres a fine line between grooming and having a healthy balance of dependence. Considering his past it does appear he chose a victim instead of a partner.
It took me a long time to learn the game but I learned to that a man wants a woman to completely depend on him so that she doesn't leave him. Where is she going to go if he strips her of everything? Job. Friends. Family. She's gonna depend on him for everything and that's what he wants. They know that an independent woman can get up at any given moment and walk out with their head held high.
Alot yall can't get them anyway😅😅😅
Charlamange is speaking more sense than ever! I’m so happy that he’s viewing it from the perspective of his wife & daughters. He truly understands the importance of speaking light into your daughters for them to make sound decisions & that his wife has a voice in the marriage. He’s also ceasing the narrative that older women are no longer valuable & damaged goods. I don’t think anyone should get into a relationship with the intention to manipulate. Everyone is entitled to a fair shake even if they’ve been through a few things. The past can either make or break the future & grooming should never be on the table.
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Wake up! He's pandering as usual
💯Then to find out Marques wife was a foster child - makes the manipulation even more believable.
@@rogers5622 y’all are ridiculous, so because she’s a foster child he shouldn’t date her. Y’all doing the Devil work, that ma loves his wife long as he’s not abusing her he good. Ok she’s younger so what, they have a child she’s 22 & got a whatever she wants most people old bats will never have that. She won
chances are if you're 40 dating a 19yr old woman, you WILL become their baggage....she's gonna be 30 and divorced talking about how she got married too young...he could've dated younger without going SO YOUNG...mid-twenties and early thirties exist too
So you're Clairevoyant now you can predict every woman's future who's in that type of relationship huh?,
@@flyguy7825 no but I've know many girls who at 19-20 dated 40-50yr olds...none of them are still with them now, and many realized how they were being seen as controllable...
@@flyguy7825 all I gotta do is look around me...I'm 39...all my female friends have stories of dudes like that
@@marcblair3781 OK and I know several girls who have married guys who are older than they were and they're still happily married with a family so again everything is not all as black and white.
@@marcblair3781 OK that's a small segment of women other women say differently so again not all of this is black and white
The first caller is a moron🙄🤦♀️😂 doesn’t matter if your kids are over 30, they still your kids therefore they will forever be your baggage!
A grown adult child isn’t baggage like a 10 year old. That’s the point
@@klimaxxx06 they still gonna be in your life for parties, reunions and for PROBLEMS. It’s not like once they grown you never see them again or that they don’t need help when they got problems. Hell, there are grown adults still living with their parents in this economy and whatnot.
The point is that regardless if they are grown, they will always be in your life and they recur to parents when they need something. It’s all baggage regardless of age
@@klimaxxx06 hell yeah, grown kids are still baggage 😂 what are you talking about
@@abbieC88 if your grown kids are still baggage you failed
He’s a groomer guys! She’s a runaway and met when she was 16! Read between the lines!
Exactly!!!
This is something that recently happened to me. I'm 35 and recently had a 23 year old show interest in me. I did not reciprocate. My cousins were clowning me because I told them that I did not like her because of the age difference.
The bottom line, the mentality of a women in her early 20's is going to be different from a man in his mid 30's IMO
When i was 29 i was dating a 24 year old and when i tell you the mental gap was lightyears between us. It's amazing how much a 24 year old has to grow up to mentally relate to a almost 30 yr old. Smh if we met now we'd probably match a lot better but oh well haha
I feel you. I was 31 and was dating a 19 year old. Conversation was good but mentally we were on different pages and I did the respectful thing in letting her go.
This is true, but many 35 y/o are too much to deal with and have terrible attitudes.
that goes for any sex. the probability of their being a mentality difference between 20-and-30-somethings is high.
the thing is a woman in their 20´s tend to cheat on you more often because they got tons of options so they dont really take life seriously until they get to their mid 20’s
Heads up to the older men who date younger woman because they don’t have “baggage” guess what? YOU WILL BE HER BAGGAGE. When she turns 25-30 and realizes what a gross predatory person you were and she leaves? You will be the baggage.
😂😂Right ! She wake and wonder what she is doing with this ol man lol
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So i guess 19 to 20 y.o is minor but those are the same age where women have there 1st children.
@@goofynigga8456 nobody said 19-20 was a minor but it’s very telling that you wanna date people only a few years out of highschool with NO experience or understanding of what’s a healthy relationship yet. Y’all always tell on yourselves lol
Okay 19 is old enough to do porn or b stripper even move to a new country by herself to start a new life but she 2 young to marry to a 40 man.
19 is wild lol. Charla was spot on! The way they LOVE to throw this "I don't need a man" garbage on older women comes off really insecure. It's not enough to be WANTED but they have to feel NEEDED for EVERYTHING. It's insane. All grown adults should be self-sufficient human beings. All these old men talking about how older women have baggage... if we are the same age, wtf do you have?? Hmmmmm??? And Mike with his 4 kids needs to go somewhere.
Women walk around think they shouldn’t even have to pay for shit
Are u mad she picked him... an we ain't the same cuz if something dangerous happens for some reason u get to leave with the kids am live we gotta stay an die
19 ain't wild at all 🤷🏾♂️
Y’all say that now but the goal post was moved when it’s a different subject. Before y’all were saying a man needs to step up and provide everything and y’all need to be one. Now you throwing out being self sufficient lol not hating but it always moves when older guy nah younger girls. It takes 2 to tango. 🤷🏽♂️
Stop the cap! Women say that everyday
These older women are killing it These days
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Depends on the individual sometimes tho
BLK women are!! Yet bLK men are still porch monkeys
@@getithowyoulive2. While it does depend on the individual. If you don't attract trash, then you don't have to worry about trash. It's simple.
@@leoqueen300 want to go out?
Charlamagne is absolutely CORRECT! We older gals are killing it! We are in better shape, confident, have wisdom, are financially stable, and know how to treat our man.
Exactly, and a lot of us women are choosing not to have kids or start a little later. So I’m not sure what baggage they are referring to, when it comes to women of 30+
Oh I agree 100% Marque Houston doesn't know anybody anything listening he married her at 19 she's was over 21 now it is what it is I think the reasons behind it are very misguided and rooted in way too many unfair stereotypes but that's him if he would've just said hey look I've dated around older and younger and I found that she was the right one for me and just left it like that I think to a degree he wouldn't of had a problem but he goes into this thing saying there's way too much baggage for women his age or older was way too much.
Pandering you misspelled pandering and spelled “correct” it’s all good it happens to the best of us
@@brandonannisette6023 Thank you, Brandon. I'm glad somebody noticed it. Charlamagne was pandering his ass off throughout this entire segment, lol
younger women on average definitely look way better lol y’all in y’all prime (look wise) in your 20s
That's right I'm 40plus and my body still look 25 🤷🏿♀️ and I don't have any kids yet. I hate how we bash "older" "mature" women especially black ones. Much love to all my 40 plus women. We are killing em, they can't take our intelligence, wisdom and confidence. We are not here to stroke your ego because you are insecure. 🤷🏿♀️
The real issue here is as men we got to stop sending our daughters out there telling them find a man that can take care of them like their Dad. Those women with that mentality are looking for their Daddies or Zaddies. We have to let them know. Hey find a man that will love you for who you are and not what is only on the outside. Always present yourself as feminie and sweet. Don't accept disrespect that is true disrespect and always talk to him like you respect him even if you don't. Don't look for a man like me because I love you because you are my child. My love is different than the man you will be sleeping with.
this is true but the thing is there need to be more men with this kind of mentality out here for women to be safe with, its too many predatorial men out here, so even if women had their head on straight it wouldnt make a difference because the men out here arent right.
Well said
Ain’t gonna happen. Women like being taken care of. Rich or poor.
🙌🏽SAY IT AGAIN JOHN!!!!🤌🏽💪🏾
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So he finds a girl off of a missing poster because missing & exploited children have noooo baggage 🤨
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No, he dont want marry a woman who has kids
Right.
@@jacobharris954 well she was 16 when he met her
That caller was right. MH groomed her the same way Chris Stokes groomed him & those other little boys. When she ages, she will have the same baggage he’s avoiding. MH is that young lady’s baggage.
Charla shut down that caller quickly. That behaviour was strange.
@@se3478 not strange. Charla said multiple times that he doesn’t like doing rumor reports & adding to gossip. Media outlets won’t even play Raz B’s interview where he said what Chris Stokes did to them.
@@speaktruthpeace1612 then these same outlets are going to feign shock, like they did with Robert Kelly 🤷🏾♂️
Lol groomed? She’s a grown adult? She’s allowed to have her preferences (older men) and he can have his. People too pressed about other peoples opinions. Y’all need Stoicism lol don’t need to agree just move on with your life
@@lotusjumpingspider8761 If you're so stoic, why did you bother to comment. Just plain silly 😂
“Their body hasn’t met gravity yet.” 😤 LOL. Envy wild.
Let me tell you, my body and whole being looks better now that I am 40 years old. I eat healthier, am happier, educated, fun, a great mother, a lover, and exercise. I live life!
Peace! Exactly! Don't sleep on mature women. We age better than wine, cheese, etc. Blessings💜
Ur the 1 percent. Ur not competing against women in their 20s. Pls stop it.
@@yardleyhbk aren't women in their 20s the modern women you guys keep complaining about? lol!
Yea 40 year old chic is better than 20 year old...like wine get better lol
Older women do be bad AF
Charlamagne be simpin hard for women.
Yup
As a 41 year old with no baggage, I can tell you that’s a cop out. Dudes love baggage whether they dealing with a chick that got it, or they are being/creating her baggage. All he is doing is getting the bags ready, in a few years he’s gonna be her baggage for the man she should actually be with, someone her own age.
Question are you single or ever married?
@@projectdan3369 To use Charla's word - There's a lot of trauma there.
@Tevin1627 everyone has trauma. That's what you forget to acknowledge. You yourself have trauma. If you don't handle it accordingly, at any age you gonna be fxcked up.
This child has been through a lot soo she possibly already has baggage which he is adding onto and her baggage and trauma possibly made it easier for him to "mold" her coz she was lost ran from home at 16 and he "saved" her I agree with you
Majority of men don’t want baggage! We do not like chaos. That those silly simp men that don’t have options
Seriously, there needs to be a Part Two with exclusively FEMALE callers on this subject...
Why? They're talking about a mans preference...
Not just talking, but shaming and demonizing.
Sound like a man that was raised by a single mom.
@@tidey4 And you sound insecure
For what?
He wasn’t even playing Roger anymore when she was born 😂
Yeeooo I hollered 😂😂😭😭
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Marques talking about older women have baggage, sir. YOU are the baggage 🤦♀️
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Right like go home roger
Do u have kids ?
Men choose younger women because of what envy said. They can mold them they aren’t as seasoned with opinions and goals. Or barely know love’s experience. So she’s losing out and he’s losing out as well. Because he’s repeating things she hasn’t done in life and she’s being restricted of it because he’s already done it. So it’s really not a win. No logic in it. If your mindset can dwindle down to a younger age after you have lived life I question the person.
That's not true at all that is just another misnomer based upon his misguided stereotypical point of view typically men men that I know of in every day lies I would say probably half of them one woman around her age or a little bit younger depending upon how old they are the same goes for women but there is a clear double standard and all of that.The men I know and I've talk to you when it comes to younger women is that younger women sometimes are more willing to try and do new things versus a woman who's older who isn't as open minded as someone who is younger that has absolutely nothing to do with molding anybody or they wanna be around someone who has very young full personality Don't use this word groom and mold way too many times when it comes to that
@@flyguy7825 bro. Please. Read what I stated. Your contradicting yourself. Saying it’s not true when you just wrote a man like younger women because younger woman is willing to try new things. Which is an act of “molding” sir. Y’all have to read in its entirety before commenting. And be dead ass wrong. We don’t men u know your life is very small compared to the masses it’s much of a broader topic then what one person experience in his life. So. I beg to differ and also digress
It's just all bad intention
@@jaybah836 I agree with you King
Not true at all!! Younger girls are less drama and less BITTER lol ive dated older and younger and younger is fun and dont have an attitude over basic lil things that a simple conversation can clear up. Older women tend to ASSUME the negative before even getting facts. So men choose younger to be happy and stress-free...has nothing with molding and control.
Basically he wants a woman that he can control. LOL
what a silly comment. All women want men to lead is that them wanting to be controlled? at ALL ages
He started sleeping with her when she was 16
Facts, but he doesn't want to say.
@@lip124 He think he's being clever but he's beyond transparent to most adults. Hence why he needed to go after a child.
Literally . And he said it (without saying it). Not us lol.. And as if he doesn't have baggage.. he's weak. Nothing but excuses, a woman any age will soften up if we can trust you & feel protected. Charlemagne on point
I'm a 31 year old virgin no baggage no kids just a fun teacher and writer enjoying my life. He doesn't need to attack women he doesn't know and make assumptions. Just enjoy yourself and your marital life. As long as they love and respect each other. He married her and she's a woman not a child. Who cares? But don't speak on us older chicks like we're all the same. I have young dudes trying to be with me as much as older but I don't want either. I myself don't want baggage or childish drama lol. People are diff just let us live ❤
You're a teacher and don't understand a generalization ? He's talking to the 8 out of 10 women. Maybe not you but you gotta know you're not the norm as a 31yr old virgin.
A 31 year old virgin is rare. most women especially black women have multiple kids and baby daddies before their late twenties.
Your an anonomly if that’s the case but 99 percent of women your age who are still dating and not settled or in the process of getting settled are deff coming with some experiences that affects the way they mate with men and are more likely to divorce. They’re are studies on this. Majority of men prefer younger women that’s just basic biology there’s a reason most women past age 35 who have kids carry higher risk of miscarriage or some birth defect with they’re children. Even biology is telling them it’s getting late to have kids
@@dec2567 dude shut up
@@jcvelez915 idk mostly women have perfectly fine kids up to late 30s. There are some cases. It depends on health and heredity as well. My mom had us late np. Megan markle had hers so late np. Amal Clooney. These are famous cases so we all know them but many average women do everyday. Many young women can't or have complications that are worse than older women. It's all diff honestly. And then there's women who can't have kids regardless of age. Plus advanced med and tech now allow women to get pregnant easily. Either way again let people liiiive! Everyone is diff and everyone is unique! I'm not worried about kids I never wanted any. My last ex didn't either. I still left but yea I don't mind and would love more to be with a man who doesn't want kids or has his grown kids somewhere away from us lol.
This is actually comical because I’m a 40 year old woman and my 20 year old son tells me all the time some girls his age are immature and lazy when it comes to hygiene and housekeeping!🤔
I swear to God a man in his 20's said the same thing to me and my friends. He said younger women want to live this soft life but they confuse soft with doing nothing. No cooking no cleaning hell they don't even know how to was they ass right His words not mine😅
Shit the women in their late 30s early 40s a lot of them that I know don’t cook either and I myself dealt with a women in her 40s that had bad hygiene issues it’s not always the age just sayin 🤷🏾♂️
That’s they’re parents fault. Also it makes sense if girls at that age are dating boys they’re age because at that age boys only want one thing really at least older men want a little more value than just the p****
My 24yo says the same thing!
That's rich coming from his. He's probably the common denominator when it comes to hygiene. Sounding like a younger version of nick cannon already.😂
The only thing I can derive from a man in Marques Houston’s situation, making a statement such as he doesn’t like dating women, his own age, because they come with baggage is that he’s basically telling the world that he can’t handle any kind of challenges in his life. So, when this young lady starts to grow into her own and become a different person, he’ll have to deal with a wife who has a mind of her own. But hey, if they like it, I love it.
Why would a man opt for a woman with baggage when they don't have to deal with it, he had options and he chose who he wanted, if he and his wife have any baggage it was created between the two of them and they will deal with it, it's better than dealing with baggage you had no part in creating
@@369pendulum no matter what, every marriage faces some kind of trial and tribulation and eventually if they stay married long enough, they’re going to come across some challenging times. Therefore, he gives me I can’t handle any kind of challenging times or a woman who is going to be anything other than a puppet. I just wonder if he will run at the first sight of trouble.
@@mytubeison not wanting an old head with baggage =/= he can’t handle challenges. He had to handle a lot of challenges to get there in the first place 🤷♂️
Having your own mind and life is way different from being in 30 different relationships most of them being toxic then on top of that you been on the cock carousel for the last 2 decades your traumatized to the max and most older women never really change there just stuck in there ways and then it’s always I don’t want a man I don’t need em and not being able to compromise on anything that’s is what marquis Houston is saying and younger women are easier to kind of coach into being the strongest tv fit & feminine women that there supposed to be instead of dealing with an old toxic traumatized women who won’t change her ways
First off y'all keep miss quoting MH... I think each to their own.. I know people on both ends of the spectrum. But can say when I was 17/18 I wasn't trying to get a new daddy 😂😂😂😂
I am glad the first caller brought up the Marcus Houston allegations.
He was accused of r@ping Raz B.
He was also accused of grooming his child bride, who conveniently went missing but once she turned 18 reappeared and was in a relationship with him.
The only thing I disagree with is the Chris Brown part. Anytime I try to bring up Chris Brown's past (and current) bad behavior, his stans are on the attack.
Thank you. That’s a different situation entirely.
Yo watch any and everyone tryin to justify Marcus Hustons actions, just watch them and check they search history, that’s all
9/10 those that are sounding the alarm are the guilty ones. Your English teacher failed you as well. You type like you’re partially illiterate.
19 is pretty young tho bruh..
Man the caller is a prime example of double standards.
The silence after DJ Envy said younger women bodies didn’t meet gravity yet killed me lmaooo 2:10
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Ill be 30 this year (single no kids). I date younger and older women but for me, the difference is: dating younger women is less pressure. you can have fun with them & take your time while getting your shit together because they are too. You can evn be intentional with the right one but you have more time on your side. As opposed to women my age and older, u dont have time. they are looking to settle down because a lot of them feel they dnt have time n thats when they might put pressure on you. plus its alot that im trying to accomplish before I Settle down. Hopefully any other men or even women share this same sentiment.
Exactly and alot times they are just dependent on family. That independent shit is a cap
Has charla ever gone a day without saying therapy or trauma? His favorite T words
He swear everybody needs therapy 😂
cause I wish I could get a dollar for every time he says “healing energy”
@@RamondCurtis oh yeah that too, he say it so much it's lost all meaning.
Y’all do
thats how bad mofo's out here need it
Marques Houston is simply too immature for a grown woman and that’s just it
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Society has indoctrinated women to believe that being this boss babe is going to make you more attractive to men. The sad reality is that all they are doing to pricing themselves out of the dating market. The more money and status a woman attains, she wants someone across or above her in money and status. The more money and status a man makes the more attractive he is to a wider demographic of women. Because he can and will date beneath him. If you give a man unlimited wealth and status he will almost always date younger. If you maximize a women's beauty she will almost always date older. It's been this way since the beginning of time.
If a woman is a certain age and still single. The statement “I don’t need a man or person to do for me” is just facts. That does not mean she does not WANT a man to do for her.
She didn’t make it as far as she did with that “need”
Men and Women are not the same Charlamagne 😂😂
Not even I like to mess with 19-20 year olds and I’m in my 20s still bruh 😂😂😂
Right, I'm almost 26 and I don't want no one just entering their 20s
*Don't matter what decade you are in life it just proves that men of any age don't like women their age*
So he's going after young women because he wants someone that's dependent on him and he can mold very healthy lol. You basically said you want someone to manipulate and mold the problem is you are still you and will probably do that young girl dirty and breakup and you'll become the baggage on her that you complain about.
Mold=GROOMING
Its giving groomer like BFFR beloved 😒😒
Not EVERYBODY age gracefully. A lot don't celebrate self care. And it's a lot of women out here that boast about being an adult makes them special. You can have your own car, house, business, but it still doesn't define you as a person.
*This will always be a loaded topic* ... attention all men in the comment section THIS IS NOT OUR DISCCUSSION. Let the ladies young, and old have an open, and honest convo with each other. Sit this one out
I need him LOCKED UP expeditiously, please and thank you 🗣🗣
The whole "Baggage" thing is BS, its all about control. I can't tell you how many single guys I know that have said this or something similar. They think any women that's in their 30s and up are "ran through" which to them means they've fucked around when really its just adulting. They think women 22 and under are "fresh" and don't have "baggage" which is just weird. Its all about grooming and control because they lack the ability to talk to women their age.
And they have so much of they own baggage they probably scared to put it on a grown woman. Only a child would marry Marcus accused of doing the unthinkable Houston. He has a lot of backdoor baggage. Smh
@@rasulsamad5860 Im a happily taken man who is 30 with a woman who's 28. Go get yourself a woman your age and stop preying on naive inexperienced little girls.
It’s all fun and games when she’s 19-30 but by 30 he’s gonna be in his 60’s and she just gonna cheat on him with someone her own age. Anyone whose dated older men when they were younger knows.
*Never take advice from a woman do what you want to do. Do what makes you happy. Most older women are for smashin only. Women are always trying to dictate what men should do instead of looking in the mirror. Women purposely try to put down men for their decisions because of their own insecurities* 🤣
a man has to have control over a women if he wants the relationship to work
The problem is, he was dating her before she was of age
I recently dated a man who is 49 I’m 31, it was HORRIBLE.. His mind was like a 15yr old he was trying to tell me what to do but be coddled at the same time which was weird cause I thought he had it together he came off so mature but I was definitely wrong and he has a daughter a year younger than me
When i was 20, dated a guy the same age. Relationship ended when we were 24, I ended it because he didn't have it together mentally and emotionally. Fast forward, we reconnected in 2021, 30 years later, we are both 55. Unfortunately, it ended after 5 months over the samething. This time he admitted he was emotionally unavailable and said he was too old for a real relationship. Even though he's 55, his mindset was still of a 24 year old. He hasn't chaned one bit. Before we reconnected, he was dating someone 19 years younger, a 34 year old. He said it didn't work out because she was irresponsible with money and didn't like her kind of music.
I’m so glad that Char is speaking facts to these dudes!! Do u understand how ridiculous it is for grown men to be talking about body count, that’s high school shit. Also I am sick & tired of men telling women that their body count doesn’t count & money mattes more to us, NO TF IT DOESNT & for some women body count matters to them. It’s such a cop out double standard that a man can have a past & he ran through but it’s ok if they have money but a woman is stuck being judged on her past no matter if she’s grown & evolved. If our past matters so does mens pasts. Ppl need to stop appraising humans as if they are cars, like stop tallying “body count” as if it’s miles on a vehicle bcuz it isn’t the same.
“Mold” sounds a lot like “Groom” to me. He wants to be able to manipulate and control that young girl. Her father did not do his job of another grown man feels like he can mold this young lady
Exactly! Mold=grooming.
Men have “groomed” their wives since the beginning of time. The only difference now is the women’s independence movement and this era of “toxic masculinity” where women declare that they need no man .
Charla not letting up on Envy about that comment is everything 😂😂😂
It’s not even just the age gap it’s the fact he was around before she even turned 18
I was waaaaaay more harder to “control” in my eighteens thru twenties and waaaaaaay more easier to “groom” now in my thirties bcuz I value men more now than I did then.
As I am listening to this segment… I am hearing and seeing that there is a lot of men that are out here hating women just cause of age and how many babies women have and they are not considering that MEN ARE THE ONES THAT CAUSE THIS!!! this world is crazy…
I can never look at Marques Houston the same since the Raz B story
I LOVEEEEEE CHARLA STANDING UP FOR WOMANNNN !!!!!! ❤
Seems more like pandering..
He a bozo u mean standing up for old over the hill woman who beauty has left them an they are unmarried unwanted not desired and have plenty.of attitude .. no thank you
@@Jiggy___ I think it happens when you only have daughters
Not every woman has 'baggage.' I'm 38 having my 1st healthy natural baby with my husband. My husband met me with 0 baggage and we support/need eachother. I'm with Charla on this. Times are changing. Young girls coming up don't have a damn thing on me😂.
Just reading he met her she wasn't even 14 yrs old.. As a mother and a grandmother he definitely has some issues 🙏🏽
I wouldn’t want my 19 year old daughter with a 40 year old man… I would be very apprehensive about the age difference! I would think he has some suspicious plans!!
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What bothers me is how young you still look at that teenage age (not all but enough). So someone in their 30s or older to look at you and be attracted to you makes me a little suspicious
What kind of "plans" would he have? Why is it immediate suspicion for the guy? Most women prefer men who are leaders, established, who make more money, are taller, and more experienced. A lot of women who date men their age claim they're "immature, lazy, and can't keep up financially."
So a successful man that can give her a life without struggle you'll be apprehensive but a 19yr old that's broke with no job is cool ? That's wild.
At the end of the day if she grown it wouldn't really matter what u want lol
My mom is 50ish and she doesn’t want to date a 50-60 year old man. She wants someone in his 40s 🤷🏾♀️
Pedo😅
Please tell me you understand 19 and 40 are completely different?
@@s.w.9313 broo gtfoh please why would you say that 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
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@@bellaapple2166 lol wheres the outrage when girls looking for sugar daddys or they have one?? Its always period sis yass sis and all that. And the age gaps are WAY worse then this lol
If a older man pursue a younger woman yall call him predatory.. but if a younger woman seeks out older men yall be like "get that bag sis". She's 19 which is legal. I personally wont settle down with a woman thats over 6yrs younger than me. I'd have fun with them but thats it. But 19 is still legal.. If yall claim shes too young because they are naive and immature then they should also be too young to vote, too young to have an onlyfans and too young to go off to war. Y'all can't gate keep on what age is mature or not
Facts And point out the age of consent in some states in 17 And from what I could tell from a lot of these comments they think that's way too young well if the age of consent is 17 then they need to go to complain about that to the state laws and Congress
Marquettes Houston's wife was on the back on milk carton MISSING at one time. Let's not miss that point. Also we ain't forgot what Raz B and Quintin Tarver alleged.
Exactly..Rest in peace Quindon 🕊
@@kesha297 Yes RIP Quintin.
Believe me when she gets older, he’s gonna want someone younger than her.
Bruh deserves to go to prison cause this is some Sick S**T going on 😷
Why was it ok when our uncles & grandparents did it? Seems like the ONLY thing that has changed is the AGE number in law
@@Darealkingrichard it was gross then too
@@Ilovehiphopmuzik1 Just checking,most folks LOVE double standards when it comes to family & friends
A woman's perspective is definitely missing from this conversation 🙄
I’m 25 now, looking back to when I was 19, dating older guys… there’s so so so so much I would not accept now. His marriage is honestly disgusting and he completely GROOMED her. I’m happy this is getting the attention it should bc when they first got married I thought it was CRAZY
has the girl come to complain to you?
19 is not grooming women act like they never rejected a man b4 trust me she rejected guys her own age. She volunteered 4 it.
This episode is hilarious. They could do an entire episode on this topic. So many layer to hit
When you're 20 and she's 20, she don't like you cause you're broke. So when you get some money and now you're over 30, you may wanna go back and get what you couldn't before. I get it
U spoke nun but facts
@@billybadass9357 nah they have baggages not many people are interested being a step daddy. Or deal with the after effect of club/ college party/ Miami trips/ mexico trips. At the end of everything u want 2 get married. Dudes are not going 4 tht anymore prime example is brittany renner
I’m not trying to simp, but I know a lot of men that has madd baggage too
Charlemagne sure does know his demographic lol
It was never about her being 19 years old, it was about when he first met her when she was 17!
Lol!! @2:20!!! The way Envy froze & everything got quiet... I'm like NNOOO the internet cut out😧🤦🏾♀️😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Older people date younger is for control and for someone to depend on them. They are insecure which is why someone their age may not work because someone their age isn't putting up with the mess.
that man sketchy and that is the conversation that should be had
how is he sketchy? he didnt break the law
He and his bandmates were "groomed" as teens. He's a victim turned perpetrator.
@@Obf-cj7ut If he did. then I suggest you call the police. Get off youtube and report Marcus Houston to the Law if that was the case
I'm 34. I have nieces who are in their early twenties that I helped raise. I want to be a good example to them and maintain the respect they have for me. I can't do that if I'm dating someone who could've been in the same homeroom with them.
Chris strokes had heavy influence on this men
I’m 41 years old woman but I don’t have baggage. I am a independent woman. I don’t want to date a man under the age of 25.
Yep they’re still turning a blind eye to the allegations against him. Disgusting!
Molding someone is weird AF to me lol
Not really, giving a certain context.
Honestly I feel that the issue is nobody wants to help each other unpack each other baggage or have grace with each other during our healing. Are older people gonna have baggage? Yes. The last line from Queen and Slim is really important. How she'll never let go of his hand and how he would kiss all her scars. That is what a lot of folks aren't willing to do. Marques isn't gonna kiss a healing woman's scars....he's gonna go find a woman who doesn't have any yet.
That's what therapy is for. It's not a woman's job or anyone else's to unpack your baggage.
@@gerryo25 True but that's why I also stated have grace with each other during the process. The reality is going to therapy doesn't alleviate someone of their baggage. Sometimes it just teaches you how to manage it. But even like Charla had to go to therapy during his marriage and his wife supported him in that. Most won't.
@@jasmynmedia5649 Because it's emotional taxing to deal with other people's baggage. Instead of taking time and working on yourself and being single someone else has to deal with your baggage and trauma. I think that's selfish. Like he said you end up inflicting your trauma on someone else because you have issues and they have to deal with it? Nope!
I don’t recall Marques saying he wanted to mold a woman in any of the clips I watched online. I also wonder how many people actually watched his unsung episode to get the full context not just clickbait via social media
They sure cut that lady off when she mentioned the Chris Stokes situation 👀
THIS MAN IS NEEDS TO STOP EXPLAINING CUZ YOU ARE WHAT WE THINK YOU ARE !!!!!! THERE IS SO MANY NUMBERS BETWEEN 16 AND 40 LOOOL
Some Older women refuse to have any additional kids after having multiple children with one or more men, so should that suffer in not having a child because of what most older women refuse to do for this man??
No one is forcing you to date older women who already have children or don’t want any more. What kind of nonsense argument is that? The dude is literally a male celebrity. He is in his 40s and was rich from a young age. He could’ve easily had a child at any point. He could have been married. Instead, he waited after his fertility and genetic quality had declined significantly. He chose to groom an underage girl. Give me a break
@@thezu9250 where the paper work
And why do people in general look at other older people whether men or women as someone with baggage rather than someone with substance and experience?? Not all baggage is bad baggage. Some men though want toys and fun and others want that substance. We all have diff presences and shouldn't be attacked for it.
CTG know exactly what Envy was saying, but because he screwed up with his wife and she stayed with him, he has to stay on code at all times
People nowadays can have baggage really young. When I first heard her age when I saw their engagement photos, I was concerned. I heard the rumors about her being a runaway and that was dismissed as untrue. I said all this to say maybe she does have baggage and that is what attracted them to each other. At 19, you don’t entertain men that much older than you when you’re solid with a father figure. I don’t know her life but from seeing and hearing about young women that age, it’s a high possibility that is a huge factor in it. I’m 32 and I would never date a man that is 21 years old. The youngest I would go is maybe 27 28 years old and they have to be mature and at a stable place in life. Some older cats aren’t mature and are of that party mindset. What I heard from this audio clip is that he’s the type that needs to be needed and his heart went to this young girl because she makes him feel needed. I get wanting to be needed but, it can get unhealthy and cause problems if that’s what you lead with and base your decisions in your relationship with. Honestly this Marques Houston is way different than MH a long time ago. His whole views on relationships and religion are vastly different than mine. But Godspeed to them. It will be what it will be.
Who said you had to date a woman your own age though!? 😂
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👄 You are ABSOLUTELY right but DAMN he got with her and she wasn't even able to vote🗳he could have waited till she got 18👀
I agree!!! She was 16 and he was in his late 30s!!! That’s normal for you obviously
Uneducated thots don’t know that