I live in the UK, rarely use the NHS but love that it's there if I need it at almost no cost aside from general taxation. It's one of the best things about this country. Everyone has the equal rights to access quality healthcare and it's good to know that here at least, they do.
Exactly americans think if the doctors free they'll take advantage and keep on going which is not true. I haven't been to the doctors in years because gratefully I haven't needed to. But yes knowing it's there gives an ease of mind
@@saqibzaman1476 I don't even bother engaging with Americans on this subject. They have been so brainwashed by the politicians that they think it's some socialist game whereby the government decides who lives and dies. This is a perfect example of voting against your own interests and costing many times more for worse outcomes. Reducing live expectancy, increased deaths in childbirth, medical bankruptcy etc.
@@amenhotepthethird209 very true the american media and government has effectively brainwashed all the public into thinking government programmes are communist or something gand their freedoms will be taking away when it actual fact is more freedom u dont need to worry about health care etc
@@saqibzaman1476 I can't imagine what it feels like having to worry about getting sick. Not being able to afford to to to the doctors. Seemingly, many Americans don't agree that is a basic human right. Even Cuba has a national health system. It's a shame.
@@amenhotepthethird209 it's the same with people who support the NHS. It is far from the best system in the world and the alternative is not the system in America.
ThorniMation indeed. But don’t think it was down to labour alone. The Bevin nhs was not meant to last. It was supposed to get the country fit and well and then be closed to return to the old system. However and thankfully it continued in perpetuity. Inspire of all parties using it as a political hot topic to the constant detriment of the NHS itself
Torran Irwin NW5 Pity that successive tory and neoliberal governments have been quietly gutting it whilst the adoring British public pretend it isn’t happening and continue to vote for more austerity for the many. All government ministers should be forced to use publicly-owned schools and healthcare providers. Then we might see some proper investment.
@@AtheistEve I'm sure they'll have realised how important support for the NHS really is once the pandemic blows over. Took a huge chunk off their money simply because they wouldn't invest properly in it before hand and I doubt they'll let a mistake like that happen again if they can help it.
@@wulfhere83 Ah, but I bet you had to wait until all your teeth had fallen out, before you got that appointment though, right cos of all the waiting lists /s
@@natalielueders6502 I don't know whether you're replying to my first or second response. If first..... Big deal, without knowing how much you pay that's meaningless. If the second, "/s" = "sarcasm".
yikes it's not a few hours buddy. It seems every other week the NHS leaves people in medical beds in hallways for weeks to months or until they die. I'm not sure how this video is positive on the NHS. If you wanna know how bad the NHS is just google "NHS in crisis" those articles come out every 3 and a half weeks in the UK
As a British citizen, I'm very proud of the NHS. That's why whenever I hear a politician say they want to privatise the NHS I vote for whoever is running against them. Keep your slimy private hands off the NHS! Especially if they from the US we all know what they are like.
Most NHS services have always been provided by private contractors. GPs. If a private company can provide a high quality service for less money why do you think we should keep paying more and getting less?
TK UA actually they buy generics of drugs developed in the US. US spends all the money developing new drugs and then other countries piggyback off of that.
@@ogc9649 The US doesn't produce any drugs, go search it, there hasn't been a single drug made in the US since the last factory closed in the early 00's. The UK is actually a massive drugs researcher and exporter, it's one of the biggest parts of the UK's economy... We actually invent and sell drugs to the US.
As a teenager from the UK I would like to put my perspective forward,i was born into a family of 4 siblings raised by divorced parents so we didn’t have much money, none of my siblings had any needs from the NHS however I had a form of cancer in my ear, 2 asthma attacks, grommets, tonsillitis and pneumonia all of which in between the space of 2 years. I would have died if I had lived in America as my bill would have come to around £300,000 minimum. My family members will no doubt pay the government back on the cost of these via tax rather than profit going to private companies that would overcharge or have simply left me to die. I owe my life to the NHS and the great staff who cared for me Edit: after other people mentioned these things there’s other things I’ve forgotten such a braces, the time I fainted and the 4 teeth I needed removing, there is also things all the checks my mother would have had if I was born in hospital like my siblings(born in my moms bedroom) and vaccines and asthma inhalers along with multiple of my grommets falling out days after surgery.I’ve never had any problems with ambulance times and it’s agreed that it’s a matter of government spending,most people want more funding for the NHS which is why every political party has it in their manifesto
Best thing I’ve read. I also owe so much to the NHS, my dad has had 3 heart attacks, my mum spent almost 4 months in hospital with leg problems, I’ve had countless asthma attacks and we’re all on medication. For me alone, my inhalers would cost around £200 a month, and as a student who works part time, you would have to make a choice between breathing or an education.
Same here. My family have had to deal with ‘little’ things like broken elbows all they way up to having a pacemaker fitted( after having to call an ambulance basically every year for 4 years as my brothers heart kept stopping) My sister worked for the NHS as a midwife before she left giving many years to the service. Is it perfect? No- having a family member who works for the NHS shows you that. But I am forever thankful for it and for all the people behind it.
I too have suffered through the trauma of grommets... in all seriousness though you must be an absolute beast to have survived all that, even with the NHS
@@ashlyr4385 fear of socialism even though the UK is far from socialist except really for the NHS? Pretty much everything else I can think of has been privatised. Come on American citizens wake up its the best thing since sliced bread
Americans are afraid that they’re taxes will go up and they’ll be limited by choice. Change is scary and this would be a huge change. Also the powers that be have everything to gain by keeping the system here status quo so they highlight and regurgitate all the shortcomings of medical care in the UK, Canada, France etc. to further instill fear in the American populace. What’s really messed up is how we call this a free market system. It’s not free market. I can’t price compare procedures from one hospital to another, Health Insurance companies can’t compete with each other across state lines thus lowering premiums. We also can’t legally (although this is more frowned upon than enforced) purchase drugs from other countries. Why? Because the government says we can’t. If Socialism is equated with authoritarianism then how’s that for the latter?
Joshius from what I understand, they think they'll be paying a huge amount for other people through taxes. They don't seem to understand that we don't pay ridiculous amounts of taxes for this in countries like the UK
About 30 years ago (yes, I'm old), I was working alongside some American guys on a job here in the UK. Unfortunately one of these guys had an accident and quite badly damaged hi hand- blood every where in spurts level of damage. The first aid guy on our crew got a pressure bandage on the damage and and said that he needed to go to hospital and that he would call an ambulance. The American guy freaked out. The firm that he worked for had not provided medical cover for their team while working abroad, and while his colleagues had taken out medical insurance, he hadn't, so he was panicking about how he would pay for an ambulance and treatment. We explained to him, that, technically as a non Brit he should be charged for treatment, the reality was that in the NHS they very, very rarely did this. In fact they tended NOT to ask about nationality etc, and that it would cost him nothing. He was taken to hospital, having had more work done on his injury by the paramedics who came. He came back to the worksite the following day. He was all bandaged up, and couldn't really work, but he wanted to hear again how we, could afford to offer treatment that would probably cost at the very least several hundred dollars. It took him a while to get his head round how the NHS is funded. 2 years later I ran into the same guy on another work site . He had gone back to the States and looked into how Britain was run, education, healthcare, policing etc. He made the decision that although he loved the USA, he decided to emigrate to the UK with his wife and their daughter because he could see that here we, have very similar ideals to the USA, but are a safer country to live and raise a family. His daughter (and her 2 brothers who were born here) are British citizens.
I’m an American and got food poisoning or a tummy virus last year while in London. Had to go to the emergency room and wasn’t charged anything. My biggest criticism is the lack of empathy the front desk employees displayed. Here in Miami , the waiting room staff make sure you are comfortable (i.e. get you a blanket, barf bag) while waiting.
Barbara Vyse with visits to NHS hospitals etc they will expect you to sort yourself out in some respects such as keeping pressure on a wound or bringing water or food with you especially if you are waiting to be admitted. If your not a serious case then, you generally have to have a bit of common sense and a stiff upper lip. In the U.K. there is very much a “just get on with it” attitude for a lot of things.
Reminds me in my country where some employers & doctors have been called out for giving their employees only 2 days of MC for worksite accidents, when their injuries actually require additional MC, because my country's legislation allows employers to not report worksite accidents if the MC given is less than 3 days
@@hobmoor2042 yeah I agree, fed up with the slightest thing and they're down on our country as if we are rotten or pathetic. We can't win sometimes. But I love this country and there's more good, kind people living here than horrible, racist etc people. Let them moan,we know the truth and we're proud. 🇬🇧❤️💙💜💛🧡💚👏👏
Many great people work for the NHS but in reality not everyone working in the NHS is a hero. Keep in mind that there is an army of non clinical NHS workers in which the spread of good people who add value is about the same as private companies in my experience.
Here here. I would rather pay more tax and keep our healthcare. It’s such an important part of our country and I wouldn’t want anyone having to decide between being well or bankrupt!
I work for the NHS. Believe me when I say it's not perfect. We're understaffed and underfunded. But we get the job done! The NHS is arguably the best British creation. God bless 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸
nothing great about Britain. I appreciate you guys and what you do & understand why many of you guys leave to go to Australia and wherever else but the people put the NHS even more at risk cus they don't like seeing people like me and you, Tahmed, in 'their country'
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 I agree. So many people in the UK have completely unjustified prejudice towards foreigners however, I don't believe it is something that stains the entire country. There are plenty of people who appreciate anyone here in Britain regardless of race, religion or nationality
I’m British - we do find our health services! We pay for it as part of our taxes! We are not a socialist country, but we British believe that tax is not a bad thing as long as it is spent on things that are beneficial for us! In America tax is a dirty word and generally Americans believe in lowest lower bottom tax levels as possible! We do not see it as socialist! We are not a socialist nation but we see fairness very very differently to America! We see the American system as broken too expensive and discriminatory (not on colour or religion but financial!). I have see this report and you have missed one huge point! The people of Britain would not stand for the loss of the NHS it is central to our culture and it all parties know this! The NHS is not for sale! EVER! But I agree with you Aki Fujikawa! But the bottom line is TAX! And how taxes are spent or how much they are!
@Crispy Bud where did you get that nonsense from?? 😄😄 "Daily Mail", I guess... It costs symbolic amount of money, just to avoid people going there for almost no reason... also yang and older people are exempt from those fees
Americans are terrified of tax for whatever reason which is beyond me because the sole purpose is to benefit the PEOPLE. On top of that it's cheaper than insurance because *everyone* is contributing, it's more expensive to build up insurance that only you will be paying than for everyone to pay a small % that benefits everyone equally. People there are so terrified of tax for no reason.
I don't think many of these Americans actually understand the differences between these economic systems. They're just taught "capitalism good, socialism bad".
The problem is that Americans have been conditioned to think that socialism is the same as soviet communism, that politics is a simple black and white choice with no shades of grey in between. That's why the rest of the world laughs when Bernie Sanders is described as "far left"!
@@Sarge084 then how come almost every attempt at socialism has failed? And don't tell me Europe is socialist, they have some of the best business and free market environments on Earth.
The USA has the biggest defence budget in the world, all American's contribute to that via their taxes, so Uncle Sam has a socialised defence budget. Go figure.
The US does have the largest defense budget, and it helps other countries more than our own. Imagine the day we stop having military bases abroad and other countries have to start footing the bill for their own protection. We are the developed country that relies the least amount on international trade. I am one for our country to stop defending other countries and let them take over and see how it turns out. And we could fund our healthcare with that money. But oh wait, I forget we already spend more on Medicare and Medicaid than our defense budget. And those are for the elderly and the poor. Maybe it is more than just taking away military spending.
@@NAUM1 the reason your healthcare costs so much more is the fact that you allow hospitals, doctors, and big pharma to set their own prices. One of the advantages of universal healthcare is that your country has the ability to negotiate down those prices on your behalf. When you are sick your ability to drive the price of treatment is effectively zero. But the government has a pretty effective bargaining chip. Us. The entire population of your country. Either you give us treatment at a price that we believe is fair, or you lose access to the entire population. Considering that in my country I pay less than half for my healthcare than you do, and we experience far better outcomes, it seems to be working.
Mahdi Mohammadi I think he's about as left wing as Merkel. Their policies are probably pretty much aligned, in fact he might be too the right of her on some issues. And I don't remember anyone in Germany accusing her of being far left
Guinness yeah but in Europe even merkel isn’t considered far left. Although I would say she leans to the left I wouldn’t class it as extreme. But that’s just my view and I am an outsider to German politics so I may be wrong.
Makes me ashamed, I've sadly been let down by the NHS (which is not free considering the UK has some of the highest tax in the world). Had I known how terrible the NHS was, I would have just gone private earlier.
@BigWilki123321 everyone gets healthcare in the uk for half the price and 99% of the nation are also proud. And no taxes are not very high here. Scandenavia tax is high but you get a lot more for your money like free university and strong welfare.
@BigWilki123321 No, its because we look at the US and see that the number one cause of bankruptcy is due to medical bills. We see they are paying more than twice as much as we do per person and yet have higher child mortality rates and lower life expectancy. All of this has been crystal clear to UK citizens since the NHS was founded after WWII- and has been made even clearer in this pandemic. Its why all political parties in the UK (both left and right wing) support the NHS. It guarantees healthcare for the vulnerable in society all while costing substantially less than the US system. There are fundamental ideological differences between the UK and USA that aren't always obvious but are underlined by our approaches to healthcare. I had surgery under the NHS that would have cost $200,000 had it been in the US, and I didn't have to pay a penny upfront, I know that I have and will pay back into the system through tax over the course of my lifetime. The UK praises its NHS like the US praises its military, its one of the few things that everyone in the UK stands behind and is one of the things that makes me proud to be British.
I find it totally bizarre to hear the NHS described as some impossible dream. It’s your right. Literally what is the point of schools, roads, police, firemen, if you’re dead
Ok look at it from the perspective of someone who has lived in the US all their life and paying large amounts of money for healthcare is all we have ever known, we didn't choose to be born here but we were and this is the life we know and so free healthcare is a foreign concept to us that seems like a pipe dream.
Let me explain this in a way someone from any country can understand. I have a job. I earn about $1500 a month. The British government takes about $100 a month from my salary. In return, any healthcare I might need is free. If I don't have a job, any healthcare I might need is still free, because all the other people who are paying a small amount of their salary to the government are helping to pay for the people who don't have a job. It works both ways and is very fair.
@Chelsea Exactly, what you're told by even the Democrats about what this will cost is a lie. Here's a full example of costs. In the UK nobody pays tax or National Insurance (NI) (NI is health and state pension) until they earn £9,500 per year ($11,885.35) once they hit above that they start paying NI at 12% until they earn above £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it drops to 2%. Once people earn over £12,500 per year ($15,638.63) you start paying Income Tax at 20% until they earn over £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it goes to 40%, then at £150,000 ($187,663.50) it goes to 45%. Employers have to pay towards all Employees National insurance at 13.8% based on that persons salary/wage once it goes above £9,500 ($11,885.35). Regardless of how high the salary is. 23 million people in the UK pay no income tax, let's for example say they earn £12,000 ($15013.08) per year that means they only pay £332.16 ($415.56) per year their employer would pay £381.98 ($477.89) per year. In total that would be £16,425,220,000 or $20,549,428,489.80 towards the NHS and state pension. If you were earning £55,000 ($68,809.95) per year you'd pay £5,011.56 ($6269.91) whilst your employer would pay £6,019.28 ($7530.66) At £160,000 ($200,174.40) you pay £7,006.56 ($8765.84) per year and the employer pays £19,784.78 ($24,752.54) At £500,000 ($625,545.00) you pay £13,466.56 ($16,847.88) per year and your employer pays £64,358.78 ($80,518.63) Employers also have to pay it for any company car, phone, expenses or payout of contract, employees don't. This all goes out before your net pay, it doesn't cost people much, maybe those fighting against it are employers who do have to pay more.
When you look at the difference in UK vs US healthcare, remember no one in the UK has ever taken an Uber to hospital in an emergency because they’re worried about an ambulance bill.
The ambulances are either run by the NHS (e.g. LAS) or working with the NHS (St John etc.) and therefore free of charge. Nobody should take an Uber to A&E because of car accidents or heart attacks.
People in the UK dont call an ambulance unless its needed. Basic breaks, injuries etc they would get a lift to A&E. Worse breaks for hips or legs, head injury, stroke, heart attack, breathing problems etc, they would call an ambulance. It depends on urgency of the problem, suitability of appropriate transport and proximity to the A&E dept.
It should be taken into account that, depending on the nature of the emergency, treatment starts the moment the person enters the ambulance. I once had to call an ambulance to get my disabled neighbour off the floor after she had fallen.
@@banshee1998 yes. Because a tiny amount is going to them. A large amount is going to the teenager who was just involved in a hit and run. The parents can stay by their bed side and care for them. Or the chronically ill child with cancer, who can stay in hospital for months at a time undergoing intense treatment and it not cost a penny. Or the palative care for the 89 year old grandma that means she is comfortable in her last hours. Or the team that saves a mother and her child in a complex delivery. Not to mention the mental heath care that just stopped a 22 year old man from killing himself
I'm from the UK and agree with free healthcare. But the issue is in the US Bernie's plan is too fast and too destructive. Yes, you should move towards a system that provides cheap/free healthcare however you need to also take care of those who work in the private insurance industry that would get shut down. Your countries system has been the same for so long that it will take a while to introduce such a system hence Andrew Yang's plan should have been taken more seriously.
I work at a theatre and an American shocked me when she said people with epilepsy in the U.S wear bracelets saying "DONT call an ambulance" as they can't afford the bills. I was shocked that supposedly "the greatest country in the world" doesn't care for the health of it's people. Furthermore I have only needed hospitalisation ONCE and that was to have a tooth out... I didn't have to pay... never ONCE in 35 years have I spent a second resenting that my tax is spent on free healthcare. Never!
@@anthonyh4745 Just to add on to another comment replying to yours. Typically only adults pay a fee of dental, or eye checkups. Otherwise for children, it is free and covered fully by the NHS (anyone under the age of 19). If it is a serious issue involving the eyes or teeth that will have you undergo an operation in a hospital, it will be covered by the NHS. Stuff for glasses such as lens thinning and anti-glare are add-ons to be paid for but are discounted iirc? Someone will have to correct me on that.
I am disabled and always injuring myself and the last time I seriously injured my body I never went to hospital because of the fares to hospital and so I didn’t get treated because I didn’t have enough money to get to hospital not because of the treatment
There was an American ranting on youtube a while back, saying that gun ownership is a fundamental natural human right, but healthcare is a privilege...
I love America, I respect most Americans for their proud patriotic view on their country, in fact I envy them I think it’s brilliant. But the one thing I hate about the US and Americans in general is their blind stupidity towards guns. Most argue that you need guns to protect yourself, but the only reason they need to protect themselves in the first place is because people have guns...??. Here in the UK I think it’s 10-50 people die every year from guns (or a similar number). I understand that most Americans are proud of the ‘Right to bear arms’, but the US would be so much safer and better to live in without.
Fiddly Polo-English dude Slusarczyk There’s no way we get ‘60-150’ that number is preposterous. I can’t remember the last time I read about a shooting or heard about one in the news, I’d say 10-25 per year at tops, people just don’t get shot in the UK and dying from being shot? Very rare. Usually when they do it’s in an area like Greater London or Manchester but even then most crimes are with blades/blunt weapons.
“Socialised medicine” because everyone pays for it? So, is it a “socialised police service” or do you pay every time you dial 911? How about when your house catches fire? Is that a pay per use service?
I think it's funny how Americans always want to apply their own loaded terminology and binary political standards to other countries whose political discourse and social awareness are so much more sophisticated and developed. It's like listening to a ten year old try to explain 'ethics' to a moral philosopher.
@@anserbauer309 . I think it's because a large percentage of US citizens have absolutely no idea how things are so different in most other countries. America is virtually the only country in the world where workers have no legal entitlement to paid annual leave, yet few appear to realise what they are missing. They claim universal healthcare would mean raising taxes but again don't realise, they are already paying more for far less.
Far too many Americans cannot differentiate between socialism and communism. As you point out, they already have socialised police, fire department, also education from kindergarten through high school. And what is the military, if not socialised defence ? So why not healthcare ? The answer is money. Too many big corporations are making billions from the system in its current format, and they are not going to give up without a big fight. So they talk down socialism as if it's evil like communism, when the reality is it's looking after your fellow American. What could be more patriotic than that ?
Imagine playing football in the US and your mate puts a bad, mistimed tackle in that breaks your leg and bankrupts your family. Mind boggling that in the UK you would just pop down to A&E and leave later for FREE
@@alastairp only experience I've had was when I broke my ankle, ambulance called, rushed in right away, x-rayed etc within the hour of it happening, stayed the night, was operated on and left by morning, couldn't have been more efficient
You should have a read of this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-50836324 The media has an agenda, selling the benefits of the NHS, but it's not all that rosey. There's pros ann cons.
@@BritishFreedom Yet another non British person spreading propaganda about how bad the NHS is by use 1 example. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40608253 here's one from a US Think Tank that put UK 1st and America last out of 11 countries. worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world here's another, ok the UK is 18th here, but the US is 37th behind Costa Rica and just above Slovenia!
If it's payed for by everyone and available to everyone then it is socialised, just like the police, fire department, military, schools, libraries, etc. All socialised.
Rob Fraser and what’s the issue with that though... Americans use this phrase like socialised medicine is a *bad* thing. But having education, emergency services etc available to everyone isn’t really bad is it? How can equal access be bad? What we’re seeing in America is those who can not afford health care are being unfairly disadvantaged and are in a much much worse position. This would never happen in the UK because *everybody* has access to healthcare, regardless of their socioeconomic background.
@@jess4709 There is no issue with it. Conservative Americans just don't like socialism because they are told to by the rich US aristocracy. In the early 1900's socialist and communist movements spread around the world as working class people decided to seize power from the ultra rich. In the US they at first criminalised socialists as "communist sympathisers" until that was deemed unconstitutional and then they tried to limit exposure to socialism by blacklisting anyone on TV or radio who spoke about it. Eventually they discovered that you could just brainwash the masses by convincing them that socialism was created by Satan or that being socialist means living like the North Koreans do. The billionaires that pull the strings will do anything to protect their obscene profits, much of which they get from charging sick people.
@@jess4709 We are capitalist socialist, we were fully socialist after world war 2 when everything got nationalised under labour but the Tories have gradually privatised everything and those privatised industries have moved abroad. British Leyland Motorcars, British Rail, British Steel, British Aerospace, British Petroleum, etc, all got sold off and eventually moved elsewhere. That's what happens when you sell something, the new owner can switch it off and take it with them.
Here’s how it works UK: “I feel ill, I’ll go see a doctor in case it’s anything serious” US: “I feel ill. I hope it’s nothing serious because I can’t afford to go see a doctor”
Sam Doohan I think you’ve taken a basic imagined scenario and imposed the worst possible intentions, and in doing so completely missed the original point.
We first go to the chemist if there are some concerns. Then if it’s something more serious, we will see a GP, and if necessary, a specialist or allied health practitioner. If something really bad happens, we can go to the A&E and have things sorted. Or in the worst case scenarios, we can call 999 and get an ambulance to the A&E for treatment.
Sam Doohan your missing the point the point is we don’t have to worry about bankrupting our selves for a routine check up most of us brits wouldn’t go “just in case” but we could
@@rytisbaranauskas6209 That would likely fail spectacularly. Source: yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/04/nhs-british-institution-brits-are-second-most-prou
Bernie Sanders is not Far-Left, he would be considered regular left here in the UK. Edit: He’s not as far left as former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was. But Sanders is still far left enough to lose an election.
My father had a double brain aneurism, he was in hospital for nearly a year recovering and is still going well after 20 years, FOR FREE! Bless the NHS.
My brother had severe diabetes and lost his job. In the US, the whole family would have had to sell everything they had and it would still have quickly run out. His treatments to delay blindness alone would have cost tens of thousands and he got it all free. He would have died a decade sooner if he had been in the US and my father would have ended up homeless and penniless.
It's not for free, it's the government taking your money running it through a bureaucratic system and then turning around and expecting you to be happy with the result. That is unless you are a leech on the system who makes less than 30k.
@Benji Winger The point that this system has been in place since I was born and no larger political party has put privatisation of it in their manifesto, so I am forced to continue paying more than if I was in a private system.
@@alastairp I think I've seen you in almost every comment chain on this video. If you don't mind me asking, do you live in the UK, and have you actually used the NHS?
Bean Hmmm...yeah, a possible scenario, the Brexit end game turned out different from what we promised, (but that’s not our fault), so...we need to get the money from somewhere...
ESClad that’s pretty much the definition of socialism though: from each according to their means, to each according to their need. The problem is the word “socialism” has been stigmatised and demonised when really a lot of it is common sense, particularly when applied to things like health care
@@asahdo Socialism stamps-out the will to achieve more and better oneself, it's a system that wants everyone the exact same, no better no worse. The NHS is constantly bettering itself so it is different and not socialist.
@@esclad I think you are confusing socialism with communism. It is not an inherent part of socialism to stamp-out the will to achieve more or better oneself nor does it necessarily want everyone the exact same. There are different forms of socialism but the general definition is that the public own the means of production. The NHS is owned by the British people, we all pay towards it from our taxes based on what we can afford to give and we all receive from it based on what we need. That is socialist.
@@anthonyl.goraczko6099 Why don't we think about it this way? A majority of people in most of Europe's legislatures is all that is needed to pass a law. In the US, on the other hand, you need a majority of the house and 60% of senators?! Also the president can veto the law, and if he does you need 66% of the entire Congress to overturn it!? Even if a majority of a people like an idea, the minority can make it null. God bless America.
Pretty much every wealthy nation in the world has socialized medical care. Is it perfect, no it isn’t. Will you get a quick knee transplant in the UK...No. Will you get generally excellent care if you have cancer...Yes. Also certainly in most of the European countries you can supplement your care with private health insurance, often paid by employers. Given that the USA spends in the region of 18% of GDP on healthcare and Uk, France, Germany spend 10-12% of GDP there is clearly something significantly wrong with the US system, given that healthcare outcomes are generally better in Europe. Surely it’s wrong that the wealthiest country in the world (total GDP, not per capita) should see the largest cause of personal bankruptcies to be healthcare expenses? This is of course before we even think about the impact of health insurance on workforce mobility.
Most of Europe doesn't have this system. The only other place in Europe with it is Gibraltar, a British territory. Europe uses a insurance model not a nationalised model. Both provide universal free at the point of the delivery health care though
As a British citizen, I love the NHS because at a British hospital your a patient. In America your a customer. I just wish it was better run and better funded but our Government are big fan of austerity. But I'd rather wait a few hours for treatment than pay thousands for it.
Both are the same. If people notice that you don't treat your customers appropriately then you go out of business.That is the best thing about Capitalism. In a socialist run program, you have no incentive, therefore you do not care about the quality of the results you put out.
@@naveygill1793 I unstand where you are coming from. I will put in another way. witch would like in debt bunket and death. or life and no debt. I have read and seen storys like a million of the in us but people unable to pay, just left to die. the same cases in the uk, you may get the odd 1 or 2 if you are unluckly. I think we had 2 about 5 years ago and that made head line news. but it is so common in the US. it like getting run over. you get a choose death and deth or just death.
@@antonywagner8079 I'm not sure where you got that information from, but hospitals in United States have to make every effort in saving a patient's life regardless of weather that person can pay or not at that given point of emergency. The collection process of the bill happens after a treatment has been performed and not before contrary to a lot of Asian countries. Also there are a lot of charitable programs that can waive off a substantial amount off your bill. Lastly, private healthcare was not even that expensive before the Government intervened in 2014 and required all citizens to possess insurance. There is a direct correlation in medical costs going up after Obamacare was implemented, because now Hospitals can charge whatever they feel like since they know Obamacare will pay for it regardless. That was not the case before. Government involvement screws up everything.
Great point! I had a consult with an ENT. They billed me $485.00 to have a 10 min discussion on my options for fixing my deviated septum. My insurance paid the $200 They want me to pay $285 I told them to stick it They charge whatever they can in the USA. surprise bills etc are the norm They will never give you a straight answer on what a procedure will cost btw It’s a crooked system What will happen to all of the jobs in this crooked system I wonder under Bernie
@@naveygill1793 no. Hospitals are not the same. Hospitals in America are pretty much local monopolies. There's usually no more then 2 hospitals in any given area. They can charge whatever they want and service be poor. Where else is the locals going to go?
It's great, say what I like without the fear that the police could come crashing through my door at any second for saying mean words (one guy in Scotland was fined £850 for telling a joke on youtube) that sounds like tyranny to me.
Laurence Cursaro ridiculous - the video literally went through the metrics and the NHS is cheaper and better. But hey, don’t let facts stand I the way of your opinions.
I’m from the U.K., and one of the things that makes me proud to be British is the NHS. No it’s not free, and yes we all have to pay for it - but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I would much rather pay an extra couple of hundred pounds a month (which we don't even think about) to have the NHS. Than be on my deathbed and have to remortgage my home to pay for my healthcare
his ideas are based around basic human rights and for some reason ppl still don't want to vote for that? I mean the UK didn't either I just need to stop being surprised people just need to actually start realising who is actually going to make a positive difference and that ain't Biden or trump and what is happening now is a perfect example of that...
@Don Ghiata Bernie is just a social democrat. Over here in Europe he would be considered barely center-left. From an outside perspective the US doesn't even have a real "left" party. The Dems are moderate-right and the Reps right to far right by international standards.
Even if i never need the nhs and pay into it my whole life through tax, I’m still happy in the knowledge that the money is well spent and goes towards helping my fellow countrymen. If i were paying for health insurance, that money is going to a greedy insurance company that will increase my rates as i get older, not cool!
Big dundee that’s the biggest problem with Americans, they don’t care for everyone else’s welfare. I’m happy to pay into the NHS because it’s an amazing cause, and if I ever need it - it’s there. I’d hate to live in a county knowing that nobody cares about you or anyone.
"longer to see GP's" - Lol I can call my GP at 8am tomorrow and see them same day. I had a bad kidney infection last year and needed to see someone asap on a weekend. I called 111 and went to an out of hours GP surgery few hours later and got the free medication I needed to feel better within 48 hours.
Depends were you are though. In some areas, theres one practice for multiple areas with high driving times. And in places like London, ive felt that it can take a while. Though overall I do prefer our system
Average wait to see a doctor in the US is 24 days. in the uk it's 15 days. The waiting list in the uk is a myth it's comparable with the US or better in most cases the only part of the american health system that is better is at the sharp end of the system with state of the art devices and treatments. Treatments and devises most Americans can't actually afford. In order for this to happen they lower the levels of care at the very bottom the idea in the US of preventative care is none existent. You make more money in treatment than you do insuring people don't get sick. In the Uk the NHS save money preventing illness so that is the approach they take. Mental health care in the US is a joke as well.
@@charlesbentley6033 There's NHS at Hand in London that deliveries services digitally with clinics around London if you need to see someone face to face. My 'ordinary' GP practice in West London now does most doctors calls by phone/ video - ring in the morning and get a callback later that morning ... Digital prescriptions mean your prescriptions can be fulfilled at a pharmacy anywhere in the country. Americans are being deceived by misleading emotive language - on the UK you have the right to free medical treatment and that can be delivered through a public or private provider.
I still can't understand why Americans don't promote public healthcare. To be a developed country with such a lousy healthcare system where the citizens have to worry about cost is to me mind boggling.
I suppose the issue is the American right's problems with a public system. Anything would be called "socialist" or "communist" in that context, even if it really isn't xb
@@BoeJlden sure the quality of care is great in the US but what is its worth if people can't access it or if it doesn't translate well into the markers of a healthy society, like life expectancy or infant mortality rate?
It’s insane to me that labelling something as “socialist” automatically makes it impossible to pass in the US . The UK is more of a centre right country atm but literally not s single MP in parliament would ever say get rid of the NHS. When will Americans get some sense and realise you don’t have to be 100% left or right wing. Take the best of both worlds for the best results ....so simple
Julian Hoyle I do agree but the conservatives have been trying to sell the nhs for decades all the while it was invented by a Labour Party working class member
Ethan Davies that is just such an American media myth !!! In the UK (where I’m from) the NHS is sacred to the point where if you oppose nhs in anyway the British public will end their political career! Boris Johnson yes there were rumours but there’s no way in hell it would have even been used in negotiations for UK US trade deal
Julian Hoyle It’s not necessarily the front line that Johnson will sell off its agreements on drug pricing, private access, the edges that the public doesn’t see
Ethan Davies k up Sir Henry Willink, the Conservative Minister for Health during WW2 who wrote and published a White Paper on the creation of.... The NHS!
The NHS makes me proud to be British. I can’t imagine having to go to hospital for treatment and having a bill, or having to worry if I can afford to have treatment. We LOVE our NHS.
@Laurence Cursaro Why would it? Its supporting people who need serious care through hospitals, and treating people who might have smaller diseases through Surgeries (Not like an actual surgery, basically where you can get checked up on by GP) and even if you dont get sick you arent overpaying, youre paying for people who may need the help and helping pay the NHS Staff, We pay significantly less than the US through healthcare, and we get alot more healthcare than them, despite it being not as accesible over there
@Laurence Cursaro No it doesnt. It needs 2% more GDP spent, training of more doctors and nurses and a commitment from them to give a minimum time period to the NHS before going private.
@Laurence Cursaro Uh actually its broken because the same people that are in power keep defunding it until it doesn't work anymore so then we privatise. Staff have constantly been underpaid and keep losing money, as they work overtime for staff shortages. How are they lazy? They are dying for us to live during this pandemic, working 12-14 hour shifts everyday with a few hours sleep, sleeping at the hospital just to make sure they can save as many as possible.
The U.K has many issues to address but I'm so grateful for our N.H.S.. I can only imagine the trauma of having a loved one needing vital, emergency medical treatment and being asked for their insurance policy before they are treated.
He said about NHS staff not being trained adequately for operations such as cataracts because they all go to private, THIS IS NOT TRUE. I am an Ophthalmics scrub nurse and I have worked for years in 2 NHS trusts. I have assisted in thousands of cataract surgeries and everyone I work with is very well trained in them. Yes, the NHS provide contracts for cataracts for private hospitals but that does not take away the massive numbers of surgeries we carry out EACH day! I have worked in private and a lot of the doctors and nurses who work there are not full time members of staff and are working on a bank shift basis. If anything, the nurses are less experienced in private healthcare as they don’t just do Ophthalmic procedures, they do a wide range of surgical specialities.
He wasn't saying there are no experienced people. He said the more the NHS utilises the private sector the harder it becomes to get experienced staff as they don't get to do the operation in the NHS as frequently.
I used to live in Belgium. We had to pay for medical insurance but it was very inexpensive only about €100 per year. The healthcare was brilliant and definitely worth it.
This won't work in the UK. The people are not open for new ideas and new systems. Look at the crumbling UK infrastructure, transport , health service, education system etc all dismal failures
I can walk into any hospital A&E at any time and be treated with no worries about funding any treatment I need, for example stitches if I cut my finger...
Question are their urgent care clinics that you can go to as well? They sorta fall in between visiting your GP or going to he ER (A&E), they handle cases that aren't serious enough to go to the ER, but needs to looked at sooner than getting into seeing your GP.
I’m from the UK and have used the nhs many times over my life. This is the first time I’ve heard it called “socialist” to be honest. It’s a privilege for sure. But also a right.
Laurence Cursaro What if someone looses their job and therefore insurance coverage? US unemployment has hit 30 million this week- that's a lot of people with potentially no insurance! Are they lazy because they lost their jobs due to the lockdown?
@@spencerwilton5831 Well obviously they should pull them selves up by their bootstraps! /s It's a farce. Both my parents have had surgery that didn't bankrupt them. My mother had cancer and their focus was on making sure that their young kids understood what was going on, not worrying about gofundme or going bankrupt because of it. Being self employed, mum's insurance probably would have become un-affordable after her diagnosis and checkups extremely costly. I had a check up for a funky mole 'just in case', no upfront cost. Quick referral to hospital and peace of mind.
i live in UK - got diagnosed with breast cancer in August 2020. Had operation within 2 weeks of diagnosis, radiotherapy in the September and back at work beginning of November. Brilliant service, no long waiting times. Caring follow-up. NHS is the best. Anyone who knocks it is ignorant of the facts or lying.
With the virus outbreak I as an uninsured American am thinking should I go to the hospital or just try to deal with it myself since going to hospital might bankrupt me.
@@victorsilva-oz7rm Apparently in the US, coronavirus might bankrupt you if you have no insurance. Just an IV drip will cost you 100$, that's might not include alcohol swap when they put the needle prior to the IV drip. The needles might also be charged separately. Currently, COVID-19 is dealt with by treating the symptoms. Feverish and dehydration means several 'IV therapy'. Just imagine a week in isolation ward (more expensive than a normal ward) with all the treatment of several symptoms.
John L. And another side of the Story are people whom can not afford to stay home in self-quarantine, and infects others. Understandsbly people go to work when they don’t have much
吴子轩 Scotland and wales are actually better than England we charge £9.15 for a prescription charge obviously not for people on long-term meds or contraception and optometry and dentistry is only free until you leave education or have a medical condition such as glucoma
I don’t think the UK has anything similar to Fox News. Fox News, and American conservatism in general, sees anything done in Europe or anywhere else but America as a socialist, tyrannical destroyer of freedom.
Crom are you from the USA if so are all the horror stories about people wear bands which say don’t call an ambulance true? And do you get refused treatment if you can’t pay?
This is a poor film and representation of how fantastic the NHS really is. As an infertile woman I have received endless test, appointments and ivf treatment and all funded. We’re thankful for our NHS!
My daughter-in-law is Type 1 diabetic, the NHS give insulin, needles, checkup etc all free. When she became pregnant a pump made sure no harm came to her or her babies. The NHS made me a grandmother.
And that I say is abuse of the nhs. Its not life threatening or an emergency. And for me shouldn't be allowed. For that kind of treatment you should pay.
@@sw1000xg since when has the NHS only been for emergencies? You're confusing it with dialling 999 emergency, as the NHS also has 111 if you wish to speak to a medical practitioner. The NHS mantra is free healthcare for all at the point of delivery. As for paying taxes, I've paid in for 45 years and it's the only tax I won't quibble to pay extra.
@@skellurip is it because i just got two operations within a twelfth week window that in the states would have cost me £160000 but hey Ho I just got the bill and it was, oh sorry I didn't get a bill so NHS ALL THE WAY
I’d rather live in a country where if I had an accident or a life threatening disease I’d be cared for and not have to worry about being bankrupt or worse still...left to die. Call it socialised healthcare..call it what you want.
Honestly although the NHS can have its issues, it’s there for everyone no matter who you are, no matter what living situation your in, there is always a doctor there to help you. Now you don’t see that in the US as people are too scared to go in or can’t afford due to the astronomical costs
it's not free for anyone you dingus. as a non-resident, I can't just fly to the UK and get hooked up for free. I have to have insurance or they'll charge me.
fillup316 anyone who lives here it’s free, period, if you are here on holiday and you get ill we will still get an ambulance for you and the charges won’t be in the thousands. I don’t even think they charge if it’s an emergency
@@danielfenner2168 It's likely the patient (Who is a non-resident) would be billed, and the bills can be quite hefty (At least in Canada for non-residents). I know of a few people who went on a cruise ship without traveler's insurance and I can guarantee that they had bills somewhere at LEAST in the tens of thousands of dollars. It's a really nit-picky point fillup is making mind you, it seemed like they were intentionally trying to argue for arguing's sake.
@@danielfenner2168 Just to note before anyone interjects, NHS is paid for in taxes, but the prices are still lower because of cost-regulation and bargaining power among a few other things
@@danielfenner2168 It is not free.you pay for it through taxes,and you only get approved care.It is better,in any country,if you can afford your own insurance.
As a conservative I think the NHS is the greatest thing to ever happen to this country. Healthcare is a right not a privilege and I will fight to defend healthcare for all people in the UK.
Thank God we don't have free health care... 4 months wait for a 10 minute consultation with a doctor 😂. The NHS is the favourite tool of Brits to shame other countries and the best boasting tool... Lmao they comment on American and other rich countries health care systems. The NHS seems like a policy for the poor people, of the poor country, financed by poor citizens. 😂
Yep, look up, by NHS rules a doctor isn't allowed to meet his/her patients for more than 10 minutes. Every appointment with a doctor takes a minimum of 13 weeks. It's all a scam. Oh, one more thing, if you have a diabetic l, blood pressure and heart problems. You are allowed to treat only one problem at a time. For the other two you'll have to wait again for 13 x 2 weeks.
@@BeardiusMaximus Bernie Sanders' policies are literally considered conservative in Europe. David Cameron, the conservative PM from 2010-2015 is more left than Bernie Sanders.
@@jackwhite2046 Yeah, that's simply not true. You're also gonna have to be more specific than "Europe" (Cameron was a pro-business , austerity driven conservative who was trying to negotiate the privatization of the NHS through backdoor channels). To claim he's "more left than Bernie" is embarrassingly laughable. In UK terms, Bernie is pretty much aligned generally with the labour party pre-Starmar. So by the standards of most of Western Europe, that puts him left/center left
@@adventurem8887 That would be authoritarian-left. The authoritarian/libertarian axis is something that keeps being completely ignored soooo damn often which is why the label of communist for Bernie (and a decent percentage of lefties (though there's a disturbingly high percentage of authoritarian-lefties.... the ones who're all for censorship of views they don't like etc)) is so inaccurate as he's clearly not authoritarian.
Laurence Cursaro The facts are all presented in this video. U.K. healthcare cost half as much but has better outcomes. What other facts do you need to know?
Laurence Cursaro Don’t think you understand how making a point works, you have to provide evidence to justify what you have said. Just saying ‘you are wrong’ isn’t going to make anyone take you seriously.
Laurence Cursaro a biased american who’s too stubborn in his ways to accept facts, what a shock! but hey, don’t let any facts get in the way of your propaganda pumped opinions
I think it's strange to frame this as there being a debate in the UK about how to pay for healthcare. There really isn't. Just whether or not it's getting enough cash in any given year.
chris webb it’s not tho. It’s being deliberately Mismanaged for the benefit of the private sector, my partner has been lucky enough to get her cancer treatment from a private hospital, but she didn’t pay for that, the nhs paid. Which is odd. It was seen essential that she had surgery and treatment immediately so the nhs paid for her to go private. And luckily the private hospital have now took on her follow up care for no charge to the nhs. Which is a great thing, so not all private is bad. But the fact the nhs has to pay a private hospital shows how underfunded and under resourced they where in my location that the didn’t have the capacity to do the treatment.
@@chriswebb76 Well, it HAS chronically and tactically underfunded for more than a decade. I don't think any system can function in a sustainable way in such conditions.
@@benghiskahn3673 Every single year since 2008 the NHS budget has increased. There are 7% more nurses and over 10% more doctors in the NHS now than in 2010. The only government to ever privatise parts of the NHS was Blair's government. My mother, father, brother and sister-in-law all work for, or with, the NHS and all are paid very well. I don't know why people think the NHS is 'chronically underfunded' by the Tories because, as I've said before, the last government to cut NHS funding was Brown's Labour. People have been saying the Tories want to get rid of the NHS since it was created yet in 45 years of Conservative governments they have privatised no part of it and have never once cut funding.
@Ashish Agrawal Don't be naive. They may even convince themselves, but capitalism doesn't work like that. It consumes everything for profit. Just as in the film it'll avoid spending on training & research, cherry pick the most profitable - without even mentioning private healthcare we'll find ourselves with US mortality rates for the simple reason illness will always be inversely proportional to profitability.
@@Goady1000 you're right they just do a bit at a time and hope nobody notices. Next up is prescription drugs as it was in their own report leaked during the election.
@Ashish Agrawal exactly. Boris himself was in the hospital a few weeks ago fighting covid-19, I doubt he swiped his card before being placed in treatment.
I've always found it strange that the US uses the term 'socialised healthcare' as a negative, when the concept of socialised policing or firefighting never seems to concern them. The NHS is far from perfect. Things like obesity, alcoholism & teenage pregnancy put a tremendous strain on it's resources. But when I hear of things like healthcare being the No.1 cause of bankruptcy in the US and insulin costing in excess of $300, I'm glad to have it.
@@emmaquarterman £8 because it's a perception, if you went to A&E or hospital and recieved the inhaler it would be free, I have never paid for any antibiotics received via the hospital, but I have paid the prescription for them. It's unfair as asthma is chronic and should be free, but it's still less than the $300 or more you'd have to pay for an inhaler in the US.
Americans don't care what europeans think, and for good reason. Europes historical track record is abysmal. The United States is the only country that never defaulted on its debt in the 20th century. Even the UK defaulted in its debt in 1932, although they try to deny it by blaming it on Germany or downplay it by stretching the definition of solvency.
I’ve had three children all in the nhs including one that was Caesarean section birth. Cost zero. Excellent service and staffing. Every car crash or illness is covered for everyone. Regardless of how your career of general circumstances are. Everyone on the globe should have a similar system.
I worked in USA, everytime I went to my doctor, I had to pay $20 to see her. In England nothing. Every prescription I get, because I'm over 60, nothing. In USA my asthma meds, $160 every month. And I was in well paid employment with my employer providing an insurance plan, but each year they tried to get a cheaper deal, which meant having to pay a bit more out of our own pockets, and sometimes having to change doctors because the new plan wasn't accepted by my old doctor, or the new insurer didn't have that doctor or dentist on their list
@@jameshughes5722 luxury... I have just been totally cured of Hepatitis C having had it for over 40 years, cost to the NHS was the best part of £40K, cost to me was 0, zilch, nothing at all, this was all on top of ,over the years, having heart attacks, broken skull and having to spend just short of 8 Months bolted to a bed because a broken femur took out my femoral artery, cost to me nil, how can anyone think this system is wrong
You are aware all doctors surgeries are private? And are paid through the nhs. Plus. It was privatised under pfi. Abused under labour and Toby Blair sold off an entire hospital. Richard Branson sued and won the nhs.
@@sw1000xg I am aware. My mother is a GP and six members of my extended family are hospital doctors. My mother is a partner in her practice, and yes she is paid through the NHS. But all of the doctors and nurses I know say that more and more services within the NHS are being outsourced to private providers, who more often than not cut corners to make a profit. It's also true that this happened under labor previously, but it has gotten much more extensive these last ten years of tory austerity. Regardless, the problem is not really one of Labor or Tory, but is one of ideology. Neoliberal capitalism. Everyone believes in it, despite the evidence that it creates more problems than it solves. That's a cross party failure, really.
As a veteran I get my health care through the VA, which is very similar to the NHS, and I have never received a bill. I think every American, veteran or not should have this. Medicare for All!!!
RedLight GreenArrow Yea I understand, I’m a Vet too. I don’t pay anything because of my service connection disability, but it’s a great benefit we’ve paid into. I will say it would be great if it covered all Veterans.
America’s attitude to healthcare, when applied to other public services: “I’m against having a taxpayer funded fire service. People would just set fire to things to see what would happen! I’m responsible with fire and don’t think I should be forced to pay for other people’s fires.”
Pete Nicholson Did ya know they have private fire fighters too?? During one of their ravaged bushfires (I think it was Florida) the rich got to pay privately so as to have their home saved when the flames reached their house. A fireman was asked “if one of the neighbouring houses set on fire, won’t you help?”, “only if it’s a threat to the customers house”. AMERICA= F**K YEAH!
The one I don't understand is why they're so in favour of the government they obviously hate spending huge amounts of taxpayer money on defence spending. The same people that vote against any "socialised" healthcare and that consider the right to bear arms as practically a biblical commandment are completely in favour of socialised defence, even though they all own guns partly to defend themselves against any potential tyranny of the government that keeps buying lots of guns .... which they support..... ? i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/993/875/084.png
Was hospitalized a few months back. My total cost was 45 bucks for the ambulance and 12 bucks for the meds ( 40 USD). They both woulda been free if I was on social assistance. I live in Ontario Canada.
That's a better deal than here in the US. My friend had a stroke years ago and they charged him 500 dollars for the ambulance, 5-6 thousand for emergency room, 5-10 thousand for "Profesional advice"/Physician, and 1-2 thousand for medicine and supplies.
You guys are blessed !!! Here in America some of us prefer and is way cheaper to take our car or UBER/Lyft to go to the emergency services. We are afraid of the medical charges that the insurance may not pay that if you don’t die of your illness you’ll die of the enormous amount of money you’ll have to pay once you see the bill !!!!
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American medical staff are just as kind, want to help their patients just like people in the UK, but they are obliged to work within the constraints imposed on them. I know a few, they are good people who care, but they can't change the US system.
As a British Citizen, I can say that the NHS is a a great institution. I personally have private healthcare through work, but the fact that the vulnerable can access healthcare free of charge is wonderful. Prescriptions are paid for, but not if you have an underlying health condition like myself. All my tablets etc are free.
The uk has a system that goes 1. If you have a problem see your Pharmacist or call 111 for advice. 2. If the problem persists or you have been advised to by the 111 operator or pharmacist, see your GP. 3. If you have been referred by the GP to a specialist you will be referred to a specialist at a NHS hospital or a specialist GP. 1.1. If you have a problem that is immediate or life threatening call 999 2.1 Your problem is rated depending on how serious it is and how much of a threat to your life that problem is, this will determine your wait for the ambulance. 2.2 Alternatively, if on 111 they advise you to go to hospital, you will make your way to the hospital where they will already have your details at check in, speeding up your waiting time. 1.2. If you have had an accident and know it is serious but not life threatening, you can check your self in at A & E (Emergency Room for Americans) and they will treat your serious injury. If anything is inaccurate please feel free to correct me but this is from my known knowledge so don’t hate 😂
One of the problems of course is that many people bypass all that and go straight to A&E, so the waiting room is the clogged up with people who really don't need to be there.
As a Brit I couldn’t imagine life without the NHS a prescription costs about £10 which is very fair sure the waiting times take a while but at least I don’t need to worry about insurance and then having to pay on top of that. If it was changed then I’m fairly sure there would be huge public backlash
The problem is, it won't happen all at once. Privatisation is already coming in gradually through the back door. In two decades, after numerous secret trade talks, we might look at what's left of the NHS and realise we got robbed.
@@runecrafter1198 no that was one reason the other reason was Brexit and if conservatives put privatise the nhs I guarantee people wouldn't vote for them they would vote brexit
The people calling it socialism don't realise that we also have the option to pay for private healthcare too. I also pay for private healthcare as it's quicker to be seen.
Add a Tax to the following specifically for healthcare: 1-Fast food 2-sodas , junk food and candies 3-tobacco 4-alcohol Take that revenue and use it to expand Medicare and Medicaid to cover those that are not currently covered and to subsidize the rest’s health insurance premiums
Taxing alcohol and tobacco is recessive and worsens inequality. Middle income / wealth save large proportion of there income Lower income spend all there income If both consumed tobacco and alcohol at the same rate the lower income person would be paying a larger proportion of their income in tax On top of this, due to systemic social issues lower income on average consume more tobacco and alcohol
@Natnael Guliano Yes but goods like tobacco have inelastic demand so large increases in tax result in small reductions in consumption, thus the tax is less effective for discouraging behaviour and very effective at generating revenue (from the poor). The current and past neoliberal tory and new labour governments uses this recessive tax income from tobacco tax and VAT to enable them to cut taxes on elites and the upper middle class. The point of public healthcare is we pay for it collectively, not burden those with disease (addiction) disproportionately. A more equitable way to discourage smoking or the harm of smoking would be to mandate decreasing the tobacco content in cigeretes, aggressively subsidise less harmful alternatives like vaping and nictotine patches, perhaps capping the ammount of tobacco an individual can buy with some sort of rationing system, or at least entrenching the idea that all revenue from taxes on demerit goods should go back to the communities that are burdened by the taxes and into subsidising alternatives.
I only use the NHS about 1-2 times a year, but honestly if i wasn't getting the stuff i needed my life would be drastically different today. Big up the NHS, what an amazing system especially in these difficult times!
Except one (Tories) has waged a war on the "publicness" of it for decades, whilst the another (Labour) is more limp-wristed in it's attempts. The other's (we don't have a firm duopoly) vary.
The amount of US politicians ive seen saying that the NHS doesn't work is outrageous. The NHS is fantastic and nearly all EU countries have universal healthcare.
I endured a horrific injury 3 years ago. I spent the first couple of years in and out of surgery and CT scans and MRI’s, then months and months in rehabilitation and physio therapy learning how to use my legs again. Let’s just say I thank the NHS every single day for their SUBLIME service. I don’t know what financial position my family would be in if I were born in America. I think a debt of around $300,000. But here living in the UK, I’ve had to pay nothing.
I live in the UK, rarely use the NHS but love that it's there if I need it at almost no cost aside from general taxation. It's one of the best things about this country. Everyone has the equal rights to access quality healthcare and it's good to know that here at least, they do.
Exactly americans think if the doctors free they'll take advantage and keep on going which is not true. I haven't been to the doctors in years because gratefully I haven't needed to. But yes knowing it's there gives an ease of mind
@@saqibzaman1476 I don't even bother engaging with Americans on this subject. They have been so brainwashed by the politicians that they think it's some socialist game whereby the government decides who lives and dies. This is a perfect example of voting against your own interests and costing many times more for worse outcomes. Reducing live expectancy, increased deaths in childbirth, medical bankruptcy etc.
@@amenhotepthethird209 very true the american media and government has effectively brainwashed all the public into thinking government programmes are communist or something gand their freedoms will be taking away when it actual fact is more freedom u dont need to worry about health care etc
@@saqibzaman1476 I can't imagine what it feels like having to worry about getting sick. Not being able to afford to to to the doctors. Seemingly, many Americans don't agree that is a basic human right. Even Cuba has a national health system. It's a shame.
@@amenhotepthethird209 it's the same with people who support the NHS. It is far from the best system in the world and the alternative is not the system in America.
The NHS is the UK's one true religion we all believe in.
Krp Krp I think it’s the only thing that will make Brits riot if they try to take it from us that’s why they do a lot of under handed manovere!!
Krp Krp, absolutely, ever since the NHS was founded back in 1948, back in the Labour Government of Clement Atlee !
ThorniMation indeed. But don’t think it was down to labour alone. The Bevin nhs was not meant to last. It was supposed to get the country fit and well and then be closed to return to the old system. However and thankfully it continued in perpetuity. Inspire of all parties using it as a political hot topic to the constant detriment of the NHS itself
Yep across all political spectrums
Agreed
The NHS is one of our proudest achievements
Torran Irwin NW5 surely it is.
Torran Irwin NW5 Pity that successive tory and neoliberal governments have been quietly gutting it whilst the adoring British public pretend it isn’t happening and continue to vote for more austerity for the many.
All government ministers should be forced to use publicly-owned schools and healthcare providers. Then we might see some proper investment.
@@AtheistEve I'm sure they'll have realised how important support for the NHS really is once the pandemic blows over. Took a huge chunk off their money simply because they wouldn't invest properly in it before hand and I doubt they'll let a mistake like that happen again if they can help it.
Logan R I doubt it. People continue to vote against their best interests every time.
@@OnlyGrafting the tories always want to make cuts. Its in their DNA
I’d rather wait a few hours in U.K. rather than being bankrupt
If it was gonna make you bankrupt, you'd probably be waiting more than a few hours as U.S. system rations by wallet-size rather than need.
@@wulfhere83 Ah, but I bet you had to wait until all your teeth had fallen out, before you got that appointment though, right cos of all the waiting lists /s
@@ChrispyNut Uh no? I can call my dentist and be seen the next day (Monday-Friday) or emergency appointments the same day (Monday-Sunday)
@@natalielueders6502 I don't know whether you're replying to my first or second response. If first..... Big deal, without knowing how much you pay that's meaningless. If the second, "/s" = "sarcasm".
yikes it's not a few hours buddy. It seems every other week the NHS leaves people in medical beds in hallways for weeks to months or until they die. I'm not sure how this video is positive on the NHS. If you wanna know how bad the NHS is just google "NHS in crisis" those articles come out every 3 and a half weeks in the UK
As a British citizen, I'm very proud of the NHS. That's why whenever I hear a politician say they want to privatise the NHS I vote for whoever is running against them. Keep your slimy private hands off the NHS! Especially if they from the US we all know what they are like.
Most NHS services have always been provided by private contractors. GPs. If a private company can provide a high quality service for less money why do you think we should keep paying more and getting less?
NHS is kind of a disaster. The quality of care is pretty terrible. Definitely one of the worst in Europe.
DK1 yet nhs buys drugs developed by US companies . If you love the NHS then pay the same prices that US citizens pay for their drugs
TK UA actually they buy generics of drugs developed in the US. US spends all the money developing new drugs and then other countries piggyback off of that.
@@ogc9649 The US doesn't produce any drugs, go search it, there hasn't been a single drug made in the US since the last factory closed in the early 00's. The UK is actually a massive drugs researcher and exporter, it's one of the biggest parts of the UK's economy... We actually invent and sell drugs to the US.
As a teenager from the UK I would like to put my perspective forward,i was born into a family of 4 siblings raised by divorced parents so we didn’t have much money, none of my siblings had any needs from the NHS however I had a form of cancer in my ear, 2 asthma attacks, grommets, tonsillitis and pneumonia all of which in between the space of 2 years. I would have died if I had lived in America as my bill would have come to around £300,000 minimum. My family members will no doubt pay the government back on the cost of these via tax rather than profit going to private companies that would overcharge or have simply left me to die. I owe my life to the NHS and the great staff who cared for me
Edit: after other people mentioned these things there’s other things I’ve forgotten such a braces, the time I fainted and the 4 teeth I needed removing, there is also things all the checks my mother would have had if I was born in hospital like my siblings(born in my moms bedroom) and vaccines and asthma inhalers along with multiple of my grommets falling out days after surgery.I’ve never had any problems with ambulance times and it’s agreed that it’s a matter of government spending,most people want more funding for the NHS which is why every political party has it in their manifesto
My Thoughts wish more people saw this
Best thing I’ve read. I also owe so much to the NHS, my dad has had 3 heart attacks, my mum spent almost 4 months in hospital with leg problems, I’ve had countless asthma attacks and we’re all on medication. For me alone, my inhalers would cost around £200 a month, and as a student who works part time, you would have to make a choice between breathing or an education.
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Same here. My family have had to deal with ‘little’ things like broken elbows all they way up to having a pacemaker fitted( after having to call an ambulance basically every year for 4 years as my brothers heart kept stopping) My sister worked for the NHS as a midwife before she left giving many years to the service. Is it perfect? No- having a family member who works for the NHS shows you that. But I am forever thankful for it and for all the people behind it.
I too have suffered through the trauma of grommets... in all seriousness though you must be an absolute beast to have survived all that, even with the NHS
I could never imagine getting a bill when leaving the hospital. Why do America hate this idea?
Exactly it's stupid but Americans knows best
It's frightening, isn't it? As if being sick and in hospital isn't awful enough, extra stress is piled on top of you.
@@ashlyr4385 fear of socialism even though the UK is far from socialist except really for the NHS? Pretty much everything else I can think of has been privatised. Come on American citizens wake up its the best thing since sliced bread
Americans are afraid that they’re taxes will go up and they’ll be limited by choice. Change is scary and this would be a huge change. Also the powers that be have everything to gain by keeping the system here status quo so they highlight and regurgitate all the shortcomings of medical care in the UK, Canada, France etc. to further instill fear in the American populace. What’s really messed up is how we call this a free market system. It’s not free market. I can’t price compare procedures from one hospital to another, Health Insurance companies can’t compete with each other across state lines thus lowering premiums. We also can’t legally (although this is more frowned upon than enforced) purchase drugs from other countries. Why? Because the government says we can’t. If Socialism is equated with authoritarianism then how’s that for the latter?
Joshius from what I understand, they think they'll be paying a huge amount for other people through taxes. They don't seem to understand that we don't pay ridiculous amounts of taxes for this in countries like the UK
About 30 years ago (yes, I'm old), I was working alongside some American guys on a job here in the UK. Unfortunately one of these guys had an accident and quite badly damaged hi hand- blood every where in spurts level of damage.
The first aid guy on our crew got a pressure bandage on the damage and and said that he needed to go to hospital and that he would call an ambulance. The American guy freaked out. The firm that he worked for had not provided medical cover for their team while working abroad, and while his colleagues had taken out medical insurance, he hadn't, so he was panicking about how he would pay for an ambulance and treatment.
We explained to him, that, technically as a non Brit he should be charged for treatment, the reality was that in the NHS they very, very rarely did this. In fact they tended NOT to ask about nationality etc, and that it would cost him nothing.
He was taken to hospital, having had more work done on his injury by the paramedics who came.
He came back to the worksite the following day. He was all bandaged up, and couldn't really work, but he wanted to hear again how we, could afford to offer treatment that would probably cost at the very least several hundred dollars.
It took him a while to get his head round how the NHS is funded.
2 years later I ran into the same guy on another work site . He had gone back to the States and looked into how Britain was run, education, healthcare, policing etc. He made the decision that although he loved the USA, he decided to emigrate to the UK with his wife and their daughter because he could see that here we, have very similar ideals to the USA, but are a safer country to live and raise a family.
His daughter (and her 2 brothers who were born here) are British citizens.
Great story! I'm definitely very proud to live in the UK with the NHS
I'm glad I read this 👍 big up NHS 💪
I’m an American and got food poisoning or a tummy virus last year while in London. Had to go to the emergency room and wasn’t charged anything. My biggest criticism is the lack of empathy the front desk employees displayed. Here in Miami , the waiting room staff make sure you are comfortable (i.e. get you a blanket, barf bag) while waiting.
Barbara Vyse with visits to NHS hospitals etc they will expect you to sort yourself out in some respects such as keeping pressure on a wound or bringing water or food with you especially if you are waiting to be admitted. If your not a serious case then, you generally have to have a bit of common sense and a stiff upper lip. In the U.K. there is very much a “just get on with it” attitude for a lot of things.
Reminds me in my country where some employers & doctors have been called out for giving their employees only 2 days of MC for worksite accidents, when their injuries actually require additional MC, because my country's legislation allows employers to not report worksite accidents if the MC given is less than 3 days
The NHS is one of the few things that make me proud to be British. Everybody working at the NHS are the real living superheroes of today.
BB Entertainment Indeed 👍
We're british and proud
@@hobmoor2042 yeah I agree, fed up with the slightest thing and they're down on our country as if we are rotten or pathetic. We can't win sometimes.
But I love this country and there's more good, kind people living here than horrible, racist etc people. Let them moan,we know the truth and we're proud. 🇬🇧❤️💙💜💛🧡💚👏👏
Many great people work for the NHS but in reality not everyone working in the NHS is a hero. Keep in mind that there is an army of non clinical NHS workers in which the spread of good people who add value is about the same as private companies in my experience.
Here here. I would rather pay more tax and keep our healthcare. It’s such an important part of our country and I wouldn’t want anyone having to decide between being well or bankrupt!
I work for the NHS. Believe me when I say it's not perfect. We're understaffed and underfunded. But we get the job done! The NHS is arguably the best British creation. God bless 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸
nothing great about Britain. I appreciate you guys and what you do & understand why many of you guys leave to go to Australia and wherever else but the people put the NHS even more at risk cus they don't like seeing people like me and you, Tahmed, in 'their country'
fka twigs is the queen of england I reckon hopefully we will see greater funding to NHS after COVID-19 passes over. But who knows.
fka twigs is the queen of england if you think there is nothing great. Leave.
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 I agree. So many people in the UK have completely unjustified prejudice towards foreigners however, I don't believe it is something that stains the entire country. There are plenty of people who appreciate anyone here in Britain regardless of race, religion or nationality
@Tahmed, thank you for your work during this difficult time.
It baffles me that America thinks fighting for basic human rights is a “radical” “far left” idea 😩
And it's meant to be the land of the free 😂😂
I’m British - we do find our health services! We pay for it as part of our taxes! We are not a socialist country, but we British believe that tax is not a bad thing as long as it is spent on things that are beneficial for us! In America tax is a dirty word and generally Americans believe in lowest lower bottom tax levels as possible! We do not see it as socialist! We are not a socialist nation but we see fairness very very differently to America! We see the American system as broken too expensive and discriminatory (not on colour or religion but financial!). I have see this report and you have missed one huge point! The people of Britain would not stand for the loss of the NHS it is central to our culture and it all parties know this! The NHS is not for sale! EVER! But I agree with you Aki Fujikawa! But the bottom line is TAX! And how taxes are spent or how much they are!
@Crispy Bud where did you get that nonsense from?? 😄😄 "Daily Mail", I guess...
It costs symbolic amount of money, just to avoid people going there for almost no reason... also yang and older people are exempt from those fees
They been watching too much Fox news
Americans are terrified of tax for whatever reason which is beyond me because the sole purpose is to benefit the PEOPLE. On top of that it's cheaper than insurance because *everyone* is contributing, it's more expensive to build up insurance that only you will be paying than for everyone to pay a small % that benefits everyone equally. People there are so terrified of tax for no reason.
American politics:
1% actually doing anything
99% circlejerking on whether something is "socialism" or "capitalism"
I don't think many of these Americans actually understand the differences between these economic systems. They're just taught "capitalism good, socialism bad".
“I will never forgive the politicians!”
You're right. Many of us here are ignorant and propagandized by corporate media.
The problem is that Americans have been conditioned to think that socialism is the same as soviet communism, that politics is a simple black and white choice with no shades of grey in between. That's why the rest of the world laughs when Bernie Sanders is described as "far left"!
@@Sarge084 then how come almost every attempt at socialism has failed? And don't tell me Europe is socialist, they have some of the best business and free market environments on Earth.
The USA has the biggest defence budget in the world, all American's contribute to that via their taxes, so Uncle Sam has a socialised defence budget. Go figure.
The president himself is paid via taxes. Meaning the leader is socialised
Don't get me started on their commie roads. Highways are a soviet plot I tell you.
The US does have the largest defense budget, and it helps other countries more than our own. Imagine the day we stop having military bases abroad and other countries have to start footing the bill for their own protection. We are the developed country that relies the least amount on international trade. I am one for our country to stop defending other countries and let them take over and see how it turns out. And we could fund our healthcare with that money. But oh wait, I forget we already spend more on Medicare and Medicaid than our defense budget. And those are for the elderly and the poor. Maybe it is more than just taking away military spending.
@@NAUM1 the reason your healthcare costs so much more is the fact that you allow hospitals, doctors, and big pharma to set their own prices. One of the advantages of universal healthcare is that your country has the ability to negotiate down those prices on your behalf.
When you are sick your ability to drive the price of treatment is effectively zero. But the government has a pretty effective bargaining chip. Us. The entire population of your country. Either you give us treatment at a price that we believe is fair, or you lose access to the entire population. Considering that in my country I pay less than half for my healthcare than you do, and we experience far better outcomes, it seems to be working.
@@NAUM1 The US didn't help anyone by FUBARing Iraq.
I’m from Austria. I wouldn’t call Bernie a “far left politician”. Here in Europe we would call him a center left or a social democrat.
Mahdi Mohammadi I think he's about as left wing as Merkel. Their policies are probably pretty much aligned, in fact he might be too the right of her on some issues. And I don't remember anyone in Germany accusing her of being far left
Guinness yeah but in Europe even merkel isn’t considered far left. Although I would say she leans to the left I wouldn’t class it as extreme. But that’s just my view and I am an outsider to German politics so I may be wrong.
Adam Griffin yer I think she’s more to the right. But I’m the USA they would think she was a full blown communist.
Adam Griffin no Merkel is to right of politics in Germany. Ask a German
I mean, he's agreed with many communist countries. Not far left though?
The NHS makes me proud to be British!
Same!!!
Makes me ashamed, I've sadly been let down by the NHS (which is not free considering the UK has some of the highest tax in the world). Had I known how terrible the NHS was, I would have just gone private earlier.
@BigWilki123321 everyone gets healthcare in the uk for half the price and 99% of the nation are also proud. And no taxes are not very high here. Scandenavia tax is high but you get a lot more for your money like free university and strong welfare.
@BigWilki123321 No, its because we look at the US and see that the number one cause of bankruptcy is due to medical bills. We see they are paying more than twice as much as we do per person and yet have higher child mortality rates and lower life expectancy. All of this has been crystal clear to UK citizens since the NHS was founded after WWII- and has been made even clearer in this pandemic. Its why all political parties in the UK (both left and right wing) support the NHS. It guarantees healthcare for the vulnerable in society all while costing substantially less than the US system. There are fundamental ideological differences between the UK and USA that aren't always obvious but are underlined by our approaches to healthcare. I had surgery under the NHS that would have cost $200,000 had it been in the US, and I didn't have to pay a penny upfront, I know that I have and will pay back into the system through tax over the course of my lifetime. The UK praises its NHS like the US praises its military, its one of the few things that everyone in the UK stands behind and is one of the things that makes me proud to be British.
splonkernoodle same I'm from Shrewsbury in the West Midlands living in telford
I find it totally bizarre to hear the NHS described as some impossible dream. It’s your right. Literally what is the point of schools, roads, police, firemen, if you’re dead
Ok look at it from the perspective of someone who has lived in the US all their life and paying large amounts of money for healthcare is all we have ever known, we didn't choose to be born here but we were and this is the life we know and so free healthcare is a foreign concept to us that seems like a pipe dream.
Healthcare is not a right! It's a commodity! No one should be forced to care of anyone else unless they want to.
@@Saliem02 sad
@@adambrickell6425 The UN, and therefore every nation, agrees it is a right
Every country in the world have those "benefits" because they pay taxes. US is better, or so they think.
Greetings from Brazil.
Let me explain this in a way someone from any country can understand.
I have a job. I earn about $1500 a month.
The British government takes about $100 a month from my salary.
In return, any healthcare I might need is free.
If I don't have a job, any healthcare I might need is still free, because all the other people who are paying a small amount of their salary to the government are helping to pay for the people who don't have a job.
It works both ways and is very fair.
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@@angelantayhua3096 because it could happen to you one day. And on that day someone else will pay for you.
@@TheWeepingDalek I think he was joking
Koba He was being sarcastic. Also I’ve always wanted to do this r/whooooosh
@Chelsea Exactly, what you're told by even the Democrats about what this will cost is a lie. Here's a full example of costs.
In the UK nobody pays tax or National Insurance (NI) (NI is health and state pension) until they earn £9,500 per year ($11,885.35) once they hit above that they start paying NI at 12% until they earn above £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it drops to 2%.
Once people earn over £12,500 per year ($15,638.63) you start paying Income Tax at 20% until they earn over £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it goes to 40%, then at £150,000 ($187,663.50) it goes to 45%.
Employers have to pay towards all Employees National insurance at 13.8% based on that persons salary/wage once it goes above £9,500 ($11,885.35). Regardless of how high the salary is.
23 million people in the UK pay no income tax, let's for example say they earn £12,000 ($15013.08) per year that means they only pay £332.16 ($415.56) per year their employer would pay £381.98 ($477.89) per year. In total that would be £16,425,220,000 or $20,549,428,489.80 towards the NHS and state pension.
If you were earning £55,000 ($68,809.95) per year you'd pay £5,011.56 ($6269.91) whilst your employer would pay £6,019.28 ($7530.66)
At £160,000 ($200,174.40) you pay £7,006.56 ($8765.84) per year and the employer pays £19,784.78 ($24,752.54)
At £500,000 ($625,545.00) you pay £13,466.56 ($16,847.88) per year and your employer pays £64,358.78 ($80,518.63)
Employers also have to pay it for any company car, phone, expenses or payout of contract, employees don't.
This all goes out before your net pay, it doesn't cost people much, maybe those fighting against it are employers who do have to pay more.
When you look at the difference in UK vs US healthcare, remember no one in the UK has ever taken an Uber to hospital in an emergency because they’re worried about an ambulance bill.
The ambulances are either run by the NHS (e.g. LAS) or working with the NHS (St John etc.) and therefore free of charge. Nobody should take an Uber to A&E because of car accidents or heart attacks.
I've taken an Uber to the hospital in a "non emergency"
I broke my arm. I did not need to waste the time of an ambulance when a taxi was faster.
@@lucisano well you wouldn't be able to get an ambulance most likely unless you couldn't physically leave your house without support.
People in the UK dont call an ambulance unless its needed. Basic breaks, injuries etc they would get a lift to A&E. Worse breaks for hips or legs, head injury, stroke, heart attack, breathing problems etc, they would call an ambulance. It depends on urgency of the problem, suitability of appropriate transport and proximity to the A&E dept.
It should be taken into account that, depending on the nature of the emergency, treatment starts the moment the person enters the ambulance.
I once had to call an ambulance to get my disabled neighbour off the floor after she had fallen.
I rarely use the NHS but I am more than happy to continue paying my taxes to support the NHS as it benefits everyone in my country.
Like people who eat themselves to oblivion and require intensive care once they develop severe heart disease? Yeah no thanks.
#00FF00GRAVITY Unlike America that doesn’t happen much here.
@@banshee1998 Yep even them. Bad decisions doesn't mean we should let something die. Society has a duty to help those in need
@@banshee1998 yes. Because a tiny amount is going to them. A large amount is going to the teenager who was just involved in a hit and run. The parents can stay by their bed side and care for them. Or the chronically ill child with cancer, who can stay in hospital for months at a time undergoing intense treatment and it not cost a penny. Or the palative care for the 89 year old grandma that means she is comfortable in her last hours. Or the team that saves a mother and her child in a complex delivery. Not to mention the mental heath care that just stopped a 22 year old man from killing himself
@Aj you comments don't make much sense
Bernie Sanders is a godsend for Americans and they don't even realise it. The US is missing out and it's sad.
I'm from the UK and agree with free healthcare. But the issue is in the US Bernie's plan is too fast and too destructive. Yes, you should move towards a system that provides cheap/free healthcare however you need to also take care of those who work in the private insurance industry that would get shut down. Your countries system has been the same for so long that it will take a while to introduce such a system hence Andrew Yang's plan should have been taken more seriously.
@@meganwallace5556 I know, I just wish the Democrats had Bernie instead of Biden.
Nbernje sounds nice but he can't get his policies to add up and that's a major issue like Blair labour that can leave a country bankrupt
No he isn't.
@@Jemalacane0 such an astute argument. Well done sir. You win.
I work at a theatre and an American shocked me when she said people with epilepsy in the U.S wear bracelets saying "DONT call an ambulance" as they can't afford the bills. I was shocked that supposedly "the greatest country in the world" doesn't care for the health of it's people. Furthermore I have only needed hospitalisation ONCE and that was to have a tooth out... I didn't have to pay... never ONCE in 35 years have I spent a second resenting that my tax is spent on free healthcare. Never!
You have to pay for dental treatment in the U.K, it’s about 50% subsidised by the NHS.
There is a video made by an American living in the UK who has epilepsy.
He described having the NHS as having a good friend when in need.
@@anthonyh4745 Not everyone pays for dental care in the UK
@@anthonyh4745 Just to add on to another comment replying to yours. Typically only adults pay a fee of dental, or eye checkups. Otherwise for children, it is free and covered fully by the NHS (anyone under the age of 19). If it is a serious issue involving the eyes or teeth that will have you undergo an operation in a hospital, it will be covered by the NHS.
Stuff for glasses such as lens thinning and anti-glare are add-ons to be paid for but are discounted iirc? Someone will have to correct me on that.
I am disabled and always injuring myself and the last time I seriously injured my body I never went to hospital because of the fares to hospital and so I didn’t get treated because I didn’t have enough money to get to hospital not because of the treatment
I’d rather have access to free health care than access to guns...
There was an American ranting on youtube a while back, saying that gun ownership is a fundamental natural human right, but healthcare is a privilege...
@@welshgit what a nutter 😂
I love America, I respect most Americans for their proud patriotic view on their country, in fact I envy them I think it’s brilliant. But the one thing I hate about the US and Americans in general is their blind stupidity towards guns. Most argue that you need guns to protect yourself, but the only reason they need to protect themselves in the first place is because people have guns...??. Here in the UK I think it’s 10-50 people die every year from guns (or a similar number). I understand that most Americans are proud of the ‘Right to bear arms’, but the US would be so much safer and better to live in without.
tommygunner321 we get more than 10 deaths a year. I’d say between 60-150, but it’s still insultingly low compared to the USA
Fiddly Polo-English dude Slusarczyk There’s no way we get ‘60-150’ that number is preposterous. I can’t remember the last time I read about a shooting or heard about one in the news, I’d say 10-25 per year at tops, people just don’t get shot in the UK and dying from being shot? Very rare. Usually when they do it’s in an area like Greater London or Manchester but even then most crimes are with blades/blunt weapons.
“Socialised medicine” because everyone pays for it? So, is it a “socialised police service” or do you pay every time you dial 911? How about when your house catches fire? Is that a pay per use service?
I think it's funny how Americans always want to apply their own loaded terminology and binary political standards to other countries whose political discourse and social awareness are so much more sophisticated and developed. It's like listening to a ten year old try to explain 'ethics' to a moral philosopher.
@@anserbauer309 .
I think it's because a large percentage of US citizens have absolutely no idea how things are so different in most other countries.
America is virtually the only country in the world where workers have no legal entitlement to paid annual leave, yet few appear to realise what they are missing.
They claim universal healthcare would mean raising taxes but again don't realise, they are already paying more for far less.
Far too many Americans cannot differentiate between socialism and communism. As you point out, they already have socialised police, fire department, also education from kindergarten through high school. And what is the military, if not socialised defence ? So why not healthcare ? The answer is money. Too many big corporations are making billions from the system in its current format, and they are not going to give up without a big fight. So they talk down socialism as if it's evil like communism, when the reality is it's looking after your fellow American. What could be more patriotic than that ?
grahvis Most don’t even have retirement plans and no pensions
The ignorance is mind boggling!
"Reforming the NHS" simply means deciding how to adequately fund it. It does not mean fundamentally changing the system.
“Reforming” the NHS means destroying it or changing it so much that it’s not the same system anymore. “Reforming” is just a word to sugarcoat it. 🧐
So much middle management in the NHS they could cull and give the nurses more
reforming nhs is euphemism of making it more like american health care system
It should do, but the conservatives have been busy privatising it through the back door.
Imagine playing football in the US and your mate puts a bad, mistimed tackle in that breaks your leg and bankrupts your family. Mind boggling that in the UK you would just pop down to A&E and leave later for FREE
SUPERRANDOMCLIP tbh you wouldn’t be playing football in the US...
You don't know the meaning of the word free, also expect to wait 3 hours at a&e.
@@alastairp it's cheap however, considering national insurance is so cheap
@@Eliteerin Not for the rich, it's very expensive for them.
@@alastairp only experience I've had was when I broke my ankle, ambulance called, rushed in right away, x-rayed etc within the hour of it happening, stayed the night, was operated on and left by morning, couldn't have been more efficient
It's pretty bad that Americans need to have a video to show how healthcare should be managed in a developed country.
that would imply they took in the information
@@egge6145 maybe the producer should have put the odd image of a gun in the video to keep them interested.
You should have a read of this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-50836324 The media has an agenda, selling the benefits of the NHS, but it's not all that rosey. There's pros ann cons.
BritishFreedom so u gave an example of one horribly managed hospital out of all in the U.K.👏
@@BritishFreedom Yet another non British person spreading propaganda about how bad the NHS is by use 1 example.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40608253 here's one from a US Think Tank that put UK 1st and America last out of 11 countries.
worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world here's another, ok the UK is 18th here, but the US is 37th behind Costa Rica and just above Slovenia!
I’m a U.K. citizen and I’d never heard of the term “socialised medicine” until today. Don’t knock the NHS, we’re all generally happy with it.
If it's payed for by everyone and available to everyone then it is socialised, just like the police, fire department, military, schools, libraries, etc. All socialised.
Rob Fraser and what’s the issue with that though... Americans use this phrase like socialised medicine is a *bad* thing. But having education, emergency services etc available to everyone isn’t really bad is it? How can equal access be bad? What we’re seeing in America is those who can not afford health care are being unfairly disadvantaged and are in a much much worse position. This would never happen in the UK because *everybody* has access to healthcare, regardless of their socioeconomic background.
@@jess4709 There is no issue with it. Conservative Americans just don't like socialism because they are told to by the rich US aristocracy. In the early 1900's socialist and communist movements spread around the world as working class people decided to seize power from the ultra rich. In the US they at first criminalised socialists as "communist sympathisers" until that was deemed unconstitutional and then they tried to limit exposure to socialism by blacklisting anyone on TV or radio who spoke about it.
Eventually they discovered that you could just brainwash the masses by convincing them that socialism was created by Satan or that being socialist means living like the North Koreans do. The billionaires that pull the strings will do anything to protect their obscene profits, much of which they get from charging sick people.
Rob Fraser ... we’re not socialist? We have a conservative government that still supports the NHS (I say ‘support’ despite it being underfunded)
@@jess4709 We are capitalist socialist, we were fully socialist after world war 2 when everything got nationalised under labour but the Tories have gradually privatised everything and those privatised industries have moved abroad. British Leyland Motorcars, British Rail, British Steel, British Aerospace, British Petroleum, etc, all got sold off and eventually moved elsewhere. That's what happens when you sell something, the new owner can switch it off and take it with them.
The NHS is absolutely amazing and makes me extremely proud to be British!
Healthcare is a right not a luxury.
Damn right about that
Lol NHS is a failure.
@@carl4243 at least it actually exists 👀
The NHS is garbage, it needs to die.
@@handzar6402
And then replace it with what?
"Thatcher centre for freedom"
They may as well carry around a neon sign saying we're an American insurance funded lobbying group
You're are not wrong! Corporate shills like that melt are ruining this country
Named after a witch as well
I was thinking the same thing aswell
Sounds like George Orwell made their name up!
🤣🤣
Here’s how it works
UK: “I feel ill, I’ll go see a doctor in case it’s anything serious”
US: “I feel ill. I hope it’s nothing serious because I can’t afford to go see a doctor”
Sam Doohan
I think you’ve taken a basic imagined scenario and imposed the worst possible intentions, and in doing so completely missed the original point.
@@lostalone9320 I'm guessing you have never heard of triage lol 😂
We first go to the chemist if there are some concerns. Then if it’s something more serious, we will see a GP, and if necessary, a specialist or allied health practitioner. If something really bad happens, we can go to the A&E and have things sorted. Or in the worst case scenarios, we can call 999 and get an ambulance to the A&E for treatment.
@@paulching8795 or call 111 for minor ailments or advice
Sam Doohan your missing the point the point is we don’t have to worry about bankrupting our selves for a routine check up most of us brits wouldn’t go “just in case” but we could
The UK NHS must be protected at all costs - it's one of things that makes the UK special.
Or mabye have a referendum on NHSexit?;D
@@rytisbaranauskas6209 That would likely fail spectacularly.
Source: yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/04/nhs-british-institution-brits-are-second-most-prou
It is quite common in western countries (except the us)
It won’t last forever
how, did you know that they secretly destroy the nhs and replace it with more americanized version of healthcare
Bernie Sanders is not Far-Left, he would be considered regular left here in the UK.
Edit: He’s not as far left as former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was. But Sanders is still far left enough to lose an election.
Not even really left maybe free college is bit left but the rest is quite normal
@Graham, King of the Britons! yeah its strange
@@saasda6255 You got free college and university tuition in Scotland.
@@lochsidefishing5103 You also get Wee Krankie and her 'It's all England's fault.'
@@tallthinkev written by an english person
My father had a double brain aneurism, he was in hospital for nearly a year recovering and is still going well after 20 years, FOR FREE! Bless the NHS.
My brother had severe diabetes and lost his job. In the US, the whole family would have had to sell everything they had and it would still have quickly run out. His treatments to delay blindness alone would have cost tens of thousands and he got it all free. He would have died a decade sooner if he had been in the US and my father would have ended up homeless and penniless.
It's not for free, it's the government taking your money running it through a bureaucratic system and then turning around and expecting you to be happy with the result.
That is unless you are a leech on the system who makes less than 30k.
@Benji Winger The point that this system has been in place since I was born and no larger political party has put privatisation of it in their manifesto, so I am forced to continue paying more than if I was in a private system.
@@alastairp I think I've seen you in almost every comment chain on this video. If you don't mind me asking, do you live in the UK, and have you actually used the NHS?
@@disceva6443 Yes, Yes
Maybe you’ll see how important a national health service after this pandemic. One thing for certain is that the NHS will be going nowhere after this
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 god help any politician who tries to ruin our NHS.
Isthisjustfantasy 75 trump might give it a go right after Boris botches brexit
Bean
Hmmm...yeah, a possible scenario, the Brexit end game turned out different from what we promised, (but that’s not our fault), so...we need to get the money from somewhere...
I really hope the nhs gets the support it needs after this
Even Boris has had his eyes well and truly opened to how amazing the NHS is!!!
It's not socialist, it's common sense.
We all pay into the pot - and we can all use it for free when needed.
ESClad that’s pretty much the definition of socialism though: from each according to their means, to each according to their need. The problem is the word “socialism” has been stigmatised and demonised when really a lot of it is common sense, particularly when applied to things like health care
@@asahdo Socialism stamps-out the will to achieve more and better oneself, it's a system that wants everyone the exact same, no better no worse. The NHS is constantly bettering itself so it is different and not socialist.
@@esclad I think you are confusing socialism with communism. It is not an inherent part of socialism to stamp-out the will to achieve more or better oneself nor does it necessarily want everyone the exact same. There are different forms of socialism but the general definition is that the public own the means of production. The NHS is owned by the British people, we all pay towards it from our taxes based on what we can afford to give and we all receive from it based on what we need. That is socialist.
Except for the people who don't pay taxes who get to use it, and the people who are forced by threat of prison to pay more than they ever use.
Amelia Oxborrow if that’s socialist what’s wrong with it ?
“No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of a lack of means.”
I really wonder if 'the right to life' is actually a right in the USA
They don't deny anyone medical aid, they will just take all of your money after they save your life
@@Saliem02 lmao what you smokin
Lol NHS is a failure.
@@carl4243 source?
Not only the UK , but most of Europe has this system , and 99% of the people like it .
@Arthur Clements socialists don't like math.
@Arthur Clements Well GENIUS , I just mean the majority .
@@anthonyl.goraczko6099 Why don't we think about it this way? A majority of people in most of Europe's legislatures is all that is needed to pass a law.
In the US, on the other hand, you need a majority of the house and 60% of senators?!
Also the president can veto the law, and if he does you need 66% of the entire Congress to overturn it!?
Even if a majority of a people like an idea, the minority can make it null. God bless America.
Pretty much every wealthy nation in the world has socialized medical care. Is it perfect, no it isn’t. Will you get a quick knee transplant in the UK...No. Will you get generally excellent care if you have cancer...Yes. Also certainly in most of the European countries you can supplement your care with private health insurance, often paid by employers. Given that the USA spends in the region of 18% of GDP on healthcare and Uk, France, Germany spend 10-12% of GDP there is clearly something significantly wrong with the US system, given that healthcare outcomes are generally better in Europe. Surely it’s wrong that the wealthiest country in the world (total GDP, not per capita) should see the largest cause of personal bankruptcies to be healthcare expenses? This is of course before we even think about the impact of health insurance on workforce mobility.
Most of Europe doesn't have this system. The only other place in Europe with it is Gibraltar, a British territory.
Europe uses a insurance model not a nationalised model. Both provide universal free at the point of the delivery health care though
As a British citizen, I love the NHS because at a British hospital your a patient. In America your a customer. I just wish it was better run and better funded but our Government are big fan of austerity. But I'd rather wait a few hours for treatment than pay thousands for it.
Both are the same. If people notice that you don't treat your customers appropriately then you go out of business.That is the best thing about Capitalism. In a socialist run program, you have no incentive, therefore you do not care about the quality of the results you put out.
@@naveygill1793 I unstand where you are coming from.
I will put in another way. witch would like in debt bunket and death. or life and no debt. I have read and seen storys like a million of the in us but people unable to pay, just left to die. the same cases in the uk, you may get the odd 1 or 2 if you are unluckly. I think we had 2 about 5 years ago and that made head line news.
but it is so common in the US. it like getting run over. you get a choose death and deth or just death.
@@antonywagner8079 I'm not sure where you got that information from, but hospitals in United States have to make every effort in saving a patient's life regardless of weather that person can pay or not at that given point of emergency. The collection process of the bill happens after a treatment has been performed and not before contrary to a lot of Asian countries. Also there are a lot of charitable programs that can waive off a substantial amount off your bill. Lastly, private healthcare was not even that expensive before the Government intervened in 2014 and required all citizens to possess insurance. There is a direct correlation in medical costs going up after Obamacare was implemented, because now Hospitals can charge whatever they feel like since they know Obamacare will pay for it regardless. That was not the case before. Government involvement screws up everything.
Great point!
I had a consult with an ENT.
They billed me $485.00 to have a 10 min discussion on my options for fixing my deviated septum. My insurance paid the $200
They want me to pay $285
I told them to stick it
They charge whatever they can in the USA. surprise bills etc are the norm
They will never give you a straight answer on what a procedure will cost btw
It’s a crooked system
What will happen to all of the jobs in this crooked system I wonder under Bernie
@@naveygill1793 no. Hospitals are not the same. Hospitals in America are pretty much local monopolies. There's usually no more then 2 hospitals in any given area. They can charge whatever they want and service be poor. Where else is the locals going to go?
Sod living in america, sounds awful.
It's great, say what I like without the fear that the police could come crashing through my door at any second for saying mean words (one guy in Scotland was fined £850 for telling a joke on youtube) that sounds like tyranny to me.
My Name , I must admit, we have lost a lot of freedom of speech
My Name I’m guessing you’re white then lmao
@@MyName-cw4yr Stop chatting bollocks😂
Laurence Cursaro ridiculous - the video literally went through the metrics and the NHS is cheaper and better. But hey, don’t let facts stand I the way of your opinions.
I’m from the U.K., and one of the things that makes me proud to be British is the NHS. No it’s not free, and yes we all have to pay for it - but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I would much rather pay an extra couple of hundred pounds a month (which we don't even think about) to have the NHS. Than be on my deathbed and have to remortgage my home to pay for my healthcare
@@Mashmarriner69agreed
Bernie is ”far left” over there? Oh, Americans are so adorable.
his ideas are based around basic human rights and for some reason ppl still don't want to vote for that? I mean the UK didn't either I just need to stop being surprised people just need to actually start realising who is actually going to make a positive difference and that ain't Biden or trump and what is happening now is a perfect example of that...
if they cannot see that then more innocent people are going to die
Its boomers mostly. They would be warmer to national socialism, but overall they prefer capitalism. Usually to their own detriment.
Init.
@Don Ghiata Bernie is just a social democrat. Over here in Europe he would be considered barely center-left. From an outside perspective the US doesn't even have a real "left" party. The Dems are moderate-right and the Reps right to far right by international standards.
Even if i never need the nhs and pay into it my whole life through tax, I’m still happy in the knowledge that the money is well spent and goes towards helping my fellow countrymen. If i were paying for health insurance, that money is going to a greedy insurance company that will increase my rates as i get older, not cool!
Big dundee that’s the biggest problem with Americans, they don’t care for everyone else’s welfare. I’m happy to pay into the NHS because it’s an amazing cause, and if I ever need it - it’s there. I’d hate to live in a county knowing that nobody cares about you or anyone.
Everyone will eventually the nhs, old age does not come without health changes!
@Laurence Cursaro investing in the well fear of other peoples health
Facts
@Laurence Cursaro well to start people don't go bust when they get injured or ill
The NHS isn't Socialist, it's just common sense.
In China having an authoritarian state is common sense for those citizens.
@@alastairp Ah yes, I see what you think you did there.
@@paulsweeney70 ??? Just because the overton window in a given country contains a given idea doesn't mean it's good.
@@alastairp so no one dying because they can't afford the healthcare isn't a good thing?!
@@LongdownConker So no people dying because of worse quality care and waits isn't a good thing?!
"longer to see GP's" - Lol I can call my GP at 8am tomorrow and see them same day. I had a bad kidney infection last year and needed to see someone asap on a weekend. I called 111 and went to an out of hours GP surgery few hours later and got the free medication I needed to feel better within 48 hours.
Depends were you are though. In some areas, theres one practice for multiple areas with high driving times. And in places like London, ive felt that it can take a while. Though overall I do prefer our system
Average wait to see a doctor in the US is 24 days. in the uk it's 15 days. The waiting list in the uk is a myth it's comparable with the US or better in most cases the only part of the american health system that is better is at the sharp end of the system with state of the art devices and treatments. Treatments and devises most Americans can't actually afford. In order for this to happen they lower the levels of care at the very bottom the idea in the US of preventative care is none existent. You make more money in treatment than you do insuring people don't get sick. In the Uk the NHS save money preventing illness so that is the approach they take. Mental health care in the US is a joke as well.
@@charlesbentley6033 There's NHS at Hand in London that deliveries services digitally with clinics around London if you need to see someone face to face.
My 'ordinary' GP practice in West London now does most doctors calls by phone/ video - ring in the morning and get a callback later that morning ... Digital prescriptions mean your prescriptions can be fulfilled at a pharmacy anywhere in the country.
Americans are being deceived by misleading emotive language - on the UK you have the right to free medical treatment and that can be delivered through a public or private provider.
I've never waited more than a day for a doctor. A good. For specialised issues I've had to wait a week or two but it was none urgent.
Same here. Called regarding my son this morning at 9, appointment at 11.40. Can't argue with that
I still can't understand why Americans don't promote public healthcare. To be a developed country with such a lousy healthcare system where the citizens have to worry about cost is to me mind boggling.
personally i'm fine with public healthcare if it only covers certain things, like checkups, prescription drugs and first-aid.
I suppose the issue is the American right's problems with a public system. Anything would be called "socialist" or "communist" in that context, even if it really isn't xb
The red scare has really done a lot of harm to this country.
Our healthcare isn’t lousy. It is the best in the world in terms of quality of care. The problem is cost.
@@BoeJlden sure the quality of care is great in the US but what is its worth if people can't access it or if it doesn't translate well into the markers of a healthy society, like life expectancy or infant mortality rate?
It’s insane to me that labelling something as “socialist” automatically makes it impossible to pass in the US . The UK is more of a centre right country atm but literally not s single MP in parliament would ever say get rid of the NHS. When will Americans get some sense and realise you don’t have to be 100% left or right wing. Take the best of both worlds for the best results ....so simple
Julian Hoyle I do agree but the conservatives have been trying to sell the nhs for decades all the while it was invented by a Labour Party working class member
Ethan Davies that is just such an American media myth !!! In the UK (where I’m from) the NHS is sacred to the point where if you oppose nhs in anyway the British public will end their political career! Boris Johnson yes there were rumours but there’s no way in hell it would have even been used in negotiations for UK US trade deal
Julian Hoyle It’s not necessarily the front line that Johnson will sell off its agreements on drug pricing, private access, the edges that the public doesn’t see
Brainwashing at its best
Ethan Davies k up Sir Henry Willink, the Conservative Minister for Health during WW2 who wrote and published a White Paper on the creation of.... The NHS!
The NHS makes me proud to be British. I can’t imagine having to go to hospital for treatment and having a bill, or having to worry if I can afford to have treatment. We LOVE our NHS.
@Laurence Cursaro Why would it? Its supporting people who need serious care through hospitals, and treating people who might have smaller diseases through Surgeries (Not like an actual surgery, basically where you can get checked up on by GP) and even if you dont get sick you arent overpaying, youre paying for people who may need the help and helping pay the NHS Staff, We pay significantly less than the US through healthcare, and we get alot more healthcare than them, despite it being not as accesible over there
@Laurence Cursaro No it doesnt. It needs 2% more GDP spent, training of more doctors and nurses and a commitment from them to give a minimum time period to the NHS before going private.
Sinneryy Just ignore him, he’s commenting on nearly every other comment saying Sinclair things. Just a sad tit looking for attention
@Laurence Cursaro I'm healthy, so everyone else must be.
@Laurence Cursaro Uh actually its broken because the same people that are in power keep defunding it until it doesn't work anymore so then we privatise. Staff have constantly been underpaid and keep losing money, as they work overtime for staff shortages. How are they lazy? They are dying for us to live during this pandemic, working 12-14 hour shifts everyday with a few hours sleep, sleeping at the hospital just to make sure they can save as many as possible.
The U.K has many issues to address but I'm so grateful for our N.H.S.. I can only imagine the trauma of having a loved one needing vital, emergency medical treatment and being asked for their insurance policy before they are treated.
He said about NHS staff not being trained adequately for operations such as cataracts because they all go to private, THIS IS NOT TRUE. I am an Ophthalmics scrub nurse and I have worked for years in 2 NHS trusts. I have assisted in thousands of cataract surgeries and everyone I work with is very well trained in them. Yes, the NHS provide contracts for cataracts for private hospitals but that does not take away the massive numbers of surgeries we carry out EACH day! I have worked in private and a lot of the doctors and nurses who work there are not full time members of staff and are working on a bank shift basis. If anything, the nurses are less experienced in private healthcare as they don’t just do Ophthalmic procedures, they do a wide range of surgical specialities.
I thought he said just that - that the folks that go and work in private health gain less experience for that area
I imagine they might have been scraping a little bit looking for things to criticise about the NHS, to appear fairer. :P
We are lucky here in England because we have a welfare state and a democratic monarchy a constitutional monarchy
He wasn't saying there are no experienced people. He said the more the NHS utilises the private sector the harder it becomes to get experienced staff as they don't get to do the operation in the NHS as frequently.
Not to mention private companies take less risky patients so are likely to be less trained when it comes to dangerous ones I suppose
When it's easier to get a gun in the US then proper healthcare 😂
Tells you all you need to know doesn't it?
@@paulg8730 Murica be like:
"but... muh rights, her emails!"
What? My healthcare cost less than a gun, i get top quality healthcare while spending less than you do on healthcare 😂
@Kish shiv i make $50k a year and spend 0 on healthcare because i have free insurance
@Kish shiv most peoples jobs come with insurance that covers everything
As a Brit I think I speak for us all when I say I love the NHS
🙆♀️ absolutely
Amen!
Yea boii
Damn right
I used to live in Belgium. We had to pay for medical insurance but it was very inexpensive only about €100 per year. The healthcare was brilliant and definitely worth it.
This won't work in the UK. The people are not open for new ideas and new systems.
Look at the crumbling UK infrastructure, transport , health service, education system etc all dismal failures
I can walk into any hospital A&E at any time and be treated with no worries about funding any treatment I need, for example stitches if I cut my finger...
Question are their urgent care clinics that you can go to as well? They sorta fall in between visiting your GP or going to he ER (A&E), they handle cases that aren't serious enough to go to the ER, but needs to looked at sooner than getting into seeing your GP.
Yet another reason why our country it better
@@kouroshtashvishi5031 saying stuff like that, creates conflict. There's advantages and disadvantages with every country.
Do you live in a litigious country?
I needed stitches here in the U.S. and had to pay $2,670 for it.
I’m from the UK and have used the nhs many times over my life. This is the first time I’ve heard it called “socialist” to be honest. It’s a privilege for sure. But also a right.
I couldn’t imagine living in a country where I’d have to worry about being ill because it might bankrupt me. The US is so far behind
Laurence Cursaro What if someone looses their job and therefore insurance coverage? US unemployment has hit 30 million this week- that's a lot of people with potentially no insurance! Are they lazy because they lost their jobs due to the lockdown?
@@spencerwilton5831 Well obviously they should pull them selves up by their bootstraps! /s
It's a farce. Both my parents have had surgery that didn't bankrupt them. My mother had cancer and their focus was on making sure that their young kids understood what was going on, not worrying about gofundme or going bankrupt because of it.
Being self employed, mum's insurance probably would have become un-affordable after her diagnosis and checkups extremely costly.
I had a check up for a funky mole 'just in case', no upfront cost. Quick referral to hospital and peace of mind.
@Laurence Cursaro .
I don't think you understand the concept of insurance.
@Laurence Cursaro You've been in this video's comment section spouting crap all over it. Please go get an education.
i live in UK - got diagnosed with breast cancer in August 2020. Had operation within 2 weeks of diagnosis, radiotherapy in the September and back at work beginning of November. Brilliant service, no long waiting times. Caring follow-up. NHS is the best. Anyone who knocks it is ignorant of the facts or lying.
With the virus outbreak I as an uninsured American am thinking should I go to the hospital or just try to deal with it myself since going to hospital might bankrupt me.
John L. Same here no insurance
Welcome in America, if you take care of yourself then you'll have to pay. A LOT.
Covid 19 is not a serious disease, nobody is going to bankrupt by coronavirus.
@@victorsilva-oz7rm Apparently in the US, coronavirus might bankrupt you if you have no insurance. Just an IV drip will cost you 100$, that's might not include alcohol swap when they put the needle prior to the IV drip. The needles might also be charged separately. Currently, COVID-19 is dealt with by treating the symptoms. Feverish and dehydration means several 'IV therapy'. Just imagine a week in isolation ward (more expensive than a normal ward) with all the treatment of several symptoms.
John L. And another side of the Story are people whom can not afford to stay home in self-quarantine, and infects others. Understandsbly people go to work when they don’t have much
I’m from the 🇬🇧 and I don’t understand how theRichest country in the world is left so far behind in terms of all the healthcare systems et cetera
One word, capitalist system. Just like Industrial Revolution in England but at least it not worse than the one in 18th century - about WW1
吴子轩 Scotland and wales are actually better than England we charge £9.15 for a prescription charge obviously not for people on long-term meds or contraception and optometry and dentistry is only free until you leave education or have a medical condition such as glucoma
I don’t think the UK has anything similar to Fox News. Fox News, and American conservatism in general, sees anything done in Europe or anywhere else but America as a socialist, tyrannical destroyer of freedom.
Crom are you from the USA if so are all the horror stories about people wear bands which say don’t call an ambulance true? And do you get refused treatment if you can’t pay?
wil edge ok? How about capitalism? Is that better?
Bernie isn’t far left, his proposals are moderate by European standards... even right wingers in the UK love the NHS
I think the NHS is probably the only British service that I’d keep nationalised.
In the uk even the right would brand people as insane to suggest privatising the healthcare system
tf do you mean when they voted for the ppl that want to do exactly that!!!!! the right are literally trying to do that
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 They are literally not
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 in the conservative manifesto they are committed to put more money in so who is privatising it ?
@Crom so by your logic state schools are privatised as they buy pencils from a private company?
The far right is just rich bigots
This is a poor film and representation of how fantastic the NHS really is. As an infertile woman I have received endless test, appointments and ivf treatment and all funded. We’re thankful for our NHS!
My daughter-in-law is Type 1 diabetic, the NHS give insulin, needles, checkup etc all free. When she became pregnant a pump made sure no harm came to her or her babies. The NHS made me a grandmother.
Yeah, I think they underplayed the nhs here.
And that I say is abuse of the nhs. Its not life threatening or an emergency. And for me shouldn't be allowed. For that kind of treatment you should pay.
@@sw1000xg since when has the NHS only been for emergencies? You're confusing it with dialling 999 emergency, as the NHS also has 111 if you wish to speak to a medical practitioner. The NHS mantra is free healthcare for all at the point of delivery. As for paying taxes, I've paid in for 45 years and it's the only tax I won't quibble to pay extra.
sw1000xg I think you misunderstand what a health service is. What does that have to do with emergencies only? That really is a stupid comment.
The NHS is the Pride of the UK esp during this pandemic time 💙
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 heroes 💙
I'd rather eat than have free healthcare, praise to the actual heroes. Lorry drivers, farmers, cashiers, etc.
@@sumvs5992 I agree with you but why cashiers?
As a Scotsman man growing up in the UK the NHS is our crown jewel. We all share the cost because we all care
your crown jewel is secretly changed into american flavor health care insurance system
@@skellurip is it because i just got two operations within a twelfth week window that in the states would have cost me £160000 but hey Ho I just got the bill and it was, oh sorry I didn't get a bill so NHS ALL THE WAY
@@thomasscullion9449 watch dirty war on the nhs. basically you can get way much better and faster healthcare on NHS than what you get right now
I owe my life to the NHS.
Same
Same
There are many of us that do, stay safe
Ditto
Many people do mate and we respect them for that
I’d rather live in a country where if I had an accident or a life threatening disease I’d be cared for and not have to worry about being bankrupt or worse still...left to die. Call it socialised healthcare..call it what you want.
@Laurence Cursaro What if u lost ur Job randomly, and u had an accident then ur done for. NHS is for everyone rich or poor .
@@hamdi.abshir5957 not to mention your insurance might not cover something they deem as your negligence, caused it...
Honestly although the NHS can have its issues, it’s there for everyone no matter who you are, no matter what living situation your in, there is always a doctor there to help you. Now you don’t see that in the US as people are too scared to go in or can’t afford due to the astronomical costs
it's not free for anyone you dingus. as a non-resident, I can't just fly to the UK and get hooked up for free. I have to have insurance or they'll charge me.
fillup316 anyone who lives here it’s free, period, if you are here on holiday and you get ill we will still get an ambulance for you and the charges won’t be in the thousands. I don’t even think they charge if it’s an emergency
@@danielfenner2168 It's likely the patient (Who is a non-resident) would be billed, and the bills can be quite hefty (At least in Canada for non-residents). I know of a few people who went on a cruise ship without traveler's insurance and I can guarantee that they had bills somewhere at LEAST in the tens of thousands of dollars.
It's a really nit-picky point fillup is making mind you, it seemed like they were intentionally trying to argue for arguing's sake.
@@danielfenner2168 Just to note before anyone interjects, NHS is paid for in taxes, but the prices are still lower because of cost-regulation and bargaining power among a few other things
@@danielfenner2168 It is not free.you pay for it through taxes,and you only get approved care.It is better,in any country,if you can afford your own insurance.
As a conservative I think the NHS is the greatest thing to ever happen to this country. Healthcare is a right not a privilege and I will fight to defend healthcare for all people in the UK.
As long as you’re not dying or really sick then no
Thank God we don't have free health care... 4 months wait for a 10 minute consultation with a doctor 😂. The NHS is the favourite tool of Brits to shame other countries and the best boasting tool... Lmao they comment on American and other rich countries health care systems. The NHS seems like a policy for the poor people, of the poor country, financed by poor citizens. 😂
Yep, look up, by NHS rules a doctor isn't allowed to meet his/her patients for more than 10 minutes. Every appointment with a doctor takes a minimum of 13 weeks. It's all a scam. Oh, one more thing, if you have a diabetic l, blood pressure and heart problems. You are allowed to treat only one problem at a time. For the other two you'll have to wait again for 13 x 2 weeks.
"Far-Left Bernie Sanders" lmao Americans.
That was the first thing I noticed. Absolute trash reporting
@@BeardiusMaximus not trash tbh, what's "far left" in the US is probably centre left in Europe.
@Oisin Doherty I wouldn't go that far, but center left, yeah. You'd be laughed at for considering him "radical"
@@BeardiusMaximus Bernie Sanders' policies are literally considered conservative in Europe. David Cameron, the conservative PM from 2010-2015 is more left than Bernie Sanders.
@@jackwhite2046 Yeah, that's simply not true. You're also gonna have to be more specific than "Europe" (Cameron was a pro-business , austerity driven conservative who was trying to negotiate the privatization of the NHS through backdoor channels). To claim he's "more left than Bernie" is embarrassingly laughable.
In UK terms, Bernie is pretty much aligned generally with the labour party pre-Starmar. So by the standards of most of Western Europe, that puts him left/center left
The NHS is why I’m proud to be British.
I'm sorry
What about our music, comedy, our history. Ok scrap the last one 😉
Forza Juve our history is one of the proudest parts
@@garthtomlinson2570 only if you admire slavery, pillaging, and murder. The British empire committed huge attrocities
Forza Juve most of europe are the same, your ancestors are probably european, so...
"Far Left Bernie Sanders" Literally everywhere else in the western world this guy would be considered centrist
Would you have to be a communist to be “far left?”
@@adventurem8887 That would be authoritarian-left. The authoritarian/libertarian axis is something that keeps being completely ignored soooo damn often which is why the label of communist for Bernie (and a decent percentage of lefties (though there's a disturbingly high percentage of authoritarian-lefties.... the ones who're all for censorship of views they don't like etc)) is so inaccurate as he's clearly not authoritarian.
The fact that Bernie Sanders is considered ‘far-left’ is depressing
In Britain,he’d be centre-left.
@@MarineAqua45 he'd be right of centre
@@Name-iq8te There is nothing right about his views and opinions.
Joe Biden is considered a conservative in some developed countries
@@shrek19yearsago78 No he isnt.
“How does healthcare work in the UK”
“Better than USA”
Laurence Cursaro The facts are all presented in this video. U.K. healthcare cost half as much but has better outcomes. What other facts do you need to know?
Laurence Cursaro Don’t think you understand how making a point works, you have to provide evidence to justify what you have said. Just saying ‘you are wrong’ isn’t going to make anyone take you seriously.
@Laurence Cursaro If you think this video is wront you need to provide proof. This isn't a matter of opinion, this are facts
@Laurence Cursaro right why you hate the nhs ???
Laurence Cursaro a biased american who’s too stubborn in his ways to accept facts, what a shock! but hey, don’t let any facts get in the way of your propaganda pumped opinions
I think it's strange to frame this as there being a debate in the UK about how to pay for healthcare. There really isn't. Just whether or not it's getting enough cash in any given year.
And tbf all parties claim to increase the NHS budget, everyone wants it to have more money, it's just some of those parties are lying about it
there is a debate in the uk. Many see the NHS as unsustainable under its current form
chris webb it’s not tho. It’s being deliberately Mismanaged for the benefit of the private sector, my partner has been lucky enough to get her cancer treatment from a private hospital, but she didn’t pay for that, the nhs paid. Which is odd. It was seen essential that she had surgery and treatment immediately so the nhs paid for her to go private. And luckily the private hospital have now took on her follow up care for no charge to the nhs. Which is a great thing, so not all private is bad. But the fact the nhs has to pay a private hospital shows how underfunded and under resourced they where in my location that the didn’t have the capacity to do the treatment.
@@chriswebb76 Well, it HAS chronically and tactically underfunded for more than a decade. I don't think any system can function in a sustainable way in such conditions.
@@benghiskahn3673 Every single year since 2008 the NHS budget has increased. There are 7% more nurses and over 10% more doctors in the NHS now than in 2010. The only government to ever privatise parts of the NHS was Blair's government. My mother, father, brother and sister-in-law all work for, or with, the NHS and all are paid very well. I don't know why people think the NHS is 'chronically underfunded' by the Tories because, as I've said before, the last government to cut NHS funding was Brown's Labour. People have been saying the Tories want to get rid of the NHS since it was created yet in 45 years of Conservative governments they have privatised no part of it and have never once cut funding.
The first party to privatise the NHS would never get into power ever again. The NHS is something we hope never to use but will gladly pay for.
The Tories are already privatising sections of it. Wake up.
@Ashish Agrawal Don't be naive. They may even convince themselves, but capitalism doesn't work like that. It consumes everything for profit. Just as in the film it'll avoid spending on training & research, cherry pick the most profitable - without even mentioning private healthcare we'll find ourselves with US mortality rates for the simple reason illness will always be inversely proportional to profitability.
@@hlund73 it would never be fully private there would be riots
@@Goady1000 you're right they just do a bit at a time and hope nobody notices. Next up is prescription drugs as it was in their own report leaked during the election.
@Ashish Agrawal exactly. Boris himself was in the hospital a few weeks ago fighting covid-19, I doubt he swiped his card before being placed in treatment.
America a developed country, love a good joke in a serious topic.
Well no other “developed country” created UA-cam, where you are typing this message. So STFU.
@@pradeep128 you ever heard of a joke?
@@pradeep128 USA didn't created youtube either. It was couple of guys, who might've been in any european country too.
@@skuyzy198 well, that wasn’t the case. Europeans love to tout their inventions, so why can’t Americans do the same?
@@pradeep128 @skuyzy go fight somewhere else.
I've always found it strange that the US uses the term 'socialised healthcare' as a negative, when the concept of socialised policing or firefighting never seems to concern them.
The NHS is far from perfect. Things like obesity, alcoholism & teenage pregnancy put a tremendous strain on it's resources. But when I hear of things like healthcare being the No.1 cause of bankruptcy in the US and insulin costing in excess of $300, I'm glad to have it.
What is medicare policy then ? Does it not pay Americans medical bills ?
I have asthma in the UK. The NHS has saved my life more than once.
Same and same.
They have also saved your family’s bank account 😂
Would cost you 300 for an inhaler in the us😂
Karnage GOAT are you kidding me?! Just got a new inhaler for £8!
@@emmaquarterman £8 because it's a perception, if you went to A&E or hospital and recieved the inhaler it would be free, I have never paid for any antibiotics received via the hospital, but I have paid the prescription for them. It's unfair as asthma is chronic and should be free, but it's still less than the $300 or more you'd have to pay for an inhaler in the US.
*_"Far left Bernie Sanders"_*
Europe: Seriously??
Americans don't care what europeans think, and for good reason. Europes historical track record is abysmal. The United States is the only country that never defaulted on its debt in the 20th century. Even the UK defaulted in its debt in 1932, although they try to deny it by blaming it on Germany or downplay it by stretching the definition of solvency.
Bernie is far left for US because they have moved far far far to the right.
@@coletrain5667 haha typical ameritard, all you care about is money isnt it? no wonder bernie is "far left" for you :)
Really
@@coletrain5667 Really that is your point??? Tell, define what is a countries debt, especially now with both countries running fiat currencies....
I’ve had three children all in the nhs including one that was Caesarean section birth. Cost zero. Excellent service and staffing. Every car crash or illness is covered for everyone. Regardless of how your career of general circumstances are. Everyone on the globe should have a similar system.
I worked in USA, everytime I went to my doctor, I had to pay $20 to see her. In England nothing. Every prescription I get, because I'm over 60, nothing. In USA my asthma meds, $160 every month. And I was in well paid employment with my employer providing an insurance plan, but each year they tried to get a cheaper deal, which meant having to pay a bit more out of our own pockets, and sometimes having to change doctors because the new plan wasn't accepted by my old doctor, or the new insurer didn't have that doctor or dentist on their list
It's more like $100 to $150!!
that's mad! I literally pay £9 for 28 days worth of meds.
@@napofastar553 yep i get a 3 months worth for £9.
Same I get 2 months worth of ADHD meds for free. (UK)
@@jameshughes5722 luxury... I have just been totally cured of Hepatitis C having had it for over 40 years, cost to the NHS was the best part of £40K, cost to me was 0, zilch, nothing at all, this was all on top of ,over the years, having heart attacks, broken skull and having to spend just short of 8 Months bolted to a bed because a broken femur took out my femoral artery, cost to me nil, how can anyone think this system is wrong
There’s no way the UK can privatise the NHS after it saved us all from Covid-19
They will privatise it. But they will do it quietly, bit by bit, so people don't see it.
You are aware all doctors surgeries are private? And are paid through the nhs. Plus. It was privatised under pfi. Abused under labour and Toby Blair sold off an entire hospital. Richard Branson sued and won the nhs.
@@sw1000xg I am aware. My mother is a GP and six members of my extended family are hospital doctors.
My mother is a partner in her practice, and yes she is paid through the NHS. But all of the doctors and nurses I know say that more and more services within the NHS are being outsourced to private providers, who more often than not cut corners to make a profit. It's also true that this happened under labor previously, but it has gotten much more extensive these last ten years of tory austerity. Regardless, the problem is not really one of Labor or Tory, but is one of ideology. Neoliberal capitalism. Everyone believes in it, despite the evidence that it creates more problems than it solves. That's a cross party failure, really.
The Johnson Government can always stoop lower than what was thought to be possible. A lack of vertebra helps.
Already done.
As a veteran I get my health care through the VA, which is very similar to the NHS, and I have never received a bill. I think every American, veteran or not should have this. Medicare for All!!!
VA for me gives me a copay of $25.
RedLight GreenArrow Still not bad.
General Tso Joe Hayabusa I know, just saying its inaccurate saying there is "no bill at all" I would be totally OK with "VA"for all!
RedLight GreenArrow Yea I understand, I’m a Vet too. I don’t pay anything because of my service connection disability, but it’s a great benefit we’ve paid into. I will say it would be great if it covered all Veterans.
Isn't the VA known for over prescribing addicting medicine and letting it's patients die in the waiting room?
As a brit this makes me appreciate the NHS more
America’s attitude to healthcare, when applied to other public services: “I’m against having a taxpayer funded fire service. People would just set fire to things to see what would happen! I’m responsible with fire and don’t think I should be forced to pay for other people’s fires.”
Pete Nicholson Did ya know they have private fire fighters too?? During one of their ravaged bushfires (I think it was Florida) the rich got to pay privately so as to have their home saved when the flames reached their house.
A fireman was asked “if one of the neighbouring houses set on fire, won’t you help?”, “only if it’s a threat to the customers house”. AMERICA= F**K YEAH!
@Laurence Cursaro .
Bollocks.
The one I don't understand is why they're so in favour of the government they obviously hate spending huge amounts of taxpayer money on defence spending. The same people that vote against any "socialised" healthcare and that consider the right to bear arms as practically a biblical commandment are completely in favour of socialised defence, even though they all own guns partly to defend themselves against any potential tyranny of the government that keeps buying lots of guns .... which they support..... ? i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/993/875/084.png
Was hospitalized a few months back. My total cost was 45 bucks for the ambulance and 12 bucks for the meds ( 40 USD). They both woulda been free if I was on social assistance. I live in Ontario Canada.
In america that cost would be 40 times or more
that would've been like 15,000 in the us
That's a better deal than here in the US. My friend had a stroke years ago and they charged him 500 dollars for the ambulance, 5-6 thousand for emergency room, 5-10 thousand for "Profesional advice"/Physician, and 1-2 thousand for medicine and supplies.
We have over 20 million illegal immigrants living here ok they all get free healthcare!
You guys are blessed !!! Here in America some of us prefer and is way cheaper to take our car or UBER/Lyft to go to the emergency services. We are afraid of the medical charges that the insurance may not pay that if you don’t die of your illness you’ll die of the enormous amount of money you’ll have to pay once you see the bill !!!!
UK "We have the NHS"
US "Well, we have guns. They're safer"
@Laurence Cursaro yes
Laurence Cursaro what the heck is wrong with you.
Laurence Cursaro erm? What does that even mean?
@Laurence Cursaro Calling people stupid instead of explaining your point. People like you have no clue what they are on about haha.
@Laurence Cursaro *You're
I love the NHS. Every single nurse ive ever been with has been the kindest person ever. its amazing
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American medical staff are just as kind, want to help their patients just like people in the UK, but they are obliged to work within the constraints imposed on them. I know a few, they are good people who care, but they can't change the US system.
As a British Citizen, I can say that the NHS is a a great institution. I personally have private healthcare through work, but the fact that the vulnerable can access healthcare free of charge is wonderful. Prescriptions are paid for,
but not if you have an underlying health condition like myself. All my tablets etc are free.
The uk has a system that goes
1. If you have a problem see your Pharmacist or call 111 for advice.
2. If the problem persists or you have been advised to by the 111 operator or pharmacist, see your GP.
3. If you have been referred by the GP to a specialist you will be referred to a specialist at a NHS hospital or a specialist GP.
1.1. If you have a problem that is immediate or life threatening call 999
2.1 Your problem is rated depending on how serious it is and how much of a threat to your life that problem is, this will determine your wait for the ambulance.
2.2 Alternatively, if on 111 they advise you to go to hospital, you will make your way to the hospital where they will already have your details at check in, speeding up your waiting time.
1.2. If you have had an accident and know it is serious but not life threatening, you can check your self in at A & E (Emergency Room for Americans) and they will treat your serious injury.
If anything is inaccurate please feel free to correct me but this is from my known knowledge so don’t hate 😂
One of the problems of course is that many people bypass all that and go straight to A&E, so the waiting room is the clogged up with people who really don't need to be there.
@@Gordanovich02 They should actually start fining people
@@Gordanovich02 Usually on a Friday or Saturday night. I can't think why. :¬P
At Uni a flat mate called an ambulance because she had tonsillitis 🤣😅 she was politely told to FOff😅
@@andrew30m 😂😂😂😂
As a Brit I couldn’t imagine life without the NHS a prescription costs about £10 which is very fair sure the waiting times take a while but at least I don’t need to worry about insurance and then having to pay on top of that. If it was changed then I’m fairly sure there would be huge public backlash
The problem is, it won't happen all at once. Privatisation is already coming in gradually through the back door. In two decades, after numerous secret trade talks, we might look at what's left of the NHS and realise we got robbed.
@@kannj7147 no there not trying to privatise the NHS and people did want them to win the election as they got the biggest majority since the 90's
Liam Clarke they had such a big win because people hate corbyn
Rune Crafter people are brainwashed by MSM owned by the rich to think that Corbyn is evil.
@@runecrafter1198 no that was one reason the other reason was Brexit and if conservatives put privatise the nhs I guarantee people wouldn't vote for them they would vote brexit
Back when I was 10 I went to the NHS and they treated me very kindly.
The people calling it socialism don't realise that we also have the option to pay for private healthcare too. I also pay for private healthcare as it's quicker to be seen.
Add a Tax to the following specifically for healthcare:
1-Fast food
2-sodas , junk food and candies
3-tobacco
4-alcohol
Take that revenue and use it to expand Medicare and Medicaid to cover those that are not currently covered and to subsidize the rest’s health insurance premiums
They already have, pasty tax, sugar tax, 80% tax on tobacco, and minimum price alcohol in Scotland 😉
Dont you dare touch candies!
tax the billionaires and stop funding the military cus we don't need it
Taxing alcohol and tobacco is recessive and worsens inequality.
Middle income / wealth save large proportion of there income
Lower income spend all there income
If both consumed tobacco and alcohol at the same rate the lower income person would be paying a larger proportion of their income in tax
On top of this, due to systemic social issues lower income on average consume more tobacco and alcohol
@Natnael Guliano Yes but goods like tobacco have inelastic demand so large increases in tax result in small reductions in consumption, thus the tax is less effective for discouraging behaviour and very effective at generating revenue (from the poor).
The current and past neoliberal tory and new labour governments uses this recessive tax income from tobacco tax and VAT to enable them to cut taxes on elites and the upper middle class.
The point of public healthcare is we pay for it collectively, not burden those with disease (addiction) disproportionately.
A more equitable way to discourage smoking or the harm of smoking would be to mandate decreasing the tobacco content in cigeretes, aggressively subsidise less harmful alternatives like vaping and nictotine patches, perhaps capping the ammount of tobacco an individual can buy with some sort of rationing system, or at least entrenching the idea that all revenue from taxes on demerit goods should go back to the communities that are burdened by the taxes and into subsidising alternatives.
I only use the NHS about 1-2 times a year, but honestly if i wasn't getting the stuff i needed my life would be drastically different today. Big up the NHS, what an amazing system especially in these difficult times!
Basically, Breaking Bad would have been a whole lot different if it was set in the UK
It wouldn't have been.
@@danylo.s care to elaborate?
@@danylo.s I mean Walt did it because he enjoyed the life but he wouldn't have got into it if he wasn't dying
The NHS is actually amazing. Both sides of the political spectrum agree it's great for our country.
But which side cuts provision for the health service, THE CONSERVATIVES, helped by the idiots that vote for them
Except one (Tories) has waged a war on the "publicness" of it for decades, whilst the another (Labour) is more limp-wristed in it's attempts. The other's (we don't have a firm duopoly) vary.
The amount of US politicians ive seen saying that the NHS doesn't work is outrageous. The NHS is fantastic and nearly all EU countries have universal healthcare.
This video underestimates how much the British public support the NHS.
@Laurence Cursaro ok boomer
I endured a horrific injury 3 years ago. I spent the first couple of years in and out of surgery and CT scans and MRI’s, then months and months in rehabilitation and physio therapy learning how to use my legs again. Let’s just say I thank the NHS every single day for their SUBLIME service. I don’t know what financial position my family would be in if I were born in America. I think a debt of around $300,000. But here living in the UK, I’ve had to pay nothing.