I live in the UK, rarely use the NHS but love that it's there if I need it at almost no cost aside from general taxation. It's one of the best things about this country. Everyone has the equal rights to access quality healthcare and it's good to know that here at least, they do.
Exactly americans think if the doctors free they'll take advantage and keep on going which is not true. I haven't been to the doctors in years because gratefully I haven't needed to. But yes knowing it's there gives an ease of mind
@@saqibzaman1476 I don't even bother engaging with Americans on this subject. They have been so brainwashed by the politicians that they think it's some socialist game whereby the government decides who lives and dies. This is a perfect example of voting against your own interests and costing many times more for worse outcomes. Reducing live expectancy, increased deaths in childbirth, medical bankruptcy etc.
@@amenhotepthethird209 very true the american media and government has effectively brainwashed all the public into thinking government programmes are communist or something gand their freedoms will be taking away when it actual fact is more freedom u dont need to worry about health care etc
@@saqibzaman1476 I can't imagine what it feels like having to worry about getting sick. Not being able to afford to to to the doctors. Seemingly, many Americans don't agree that is a basic human right. Even Cuba has a national health system. It's a shame.
@@amenhotepthethird209 it's the same with people who support the NHS. It is far from the best system in the world and the alternative is not the system in America.
@@ashlyr4385 fear of socialism even though the UK is far from socialist except really for the NHS? Pretty much everything else I can think of has been privatised. Come on American citizens wake up its the best thing since sliced bread
Americans are afraid that they’re taxes will go up and they’ll be limited by choice. Change is scary and this would be a huge change. Also the powers that be have everything to gain by keeping the system here status quo so they highlight and regurgitate all the shortcomings of medical care in the UK, Canada, France etc. to further instill fear in the American populace. What’s really messed up is how we call this a free market system. It’s not free market. I can’t price compare procedures from one hospital to another, Health Insurance companies can’t compete with each other across state lines thus lowering premiums. We also can’t legally (although this is more frowned upon than enforced) purchase drugs from other countries. Why? Because the government says we can’t. If Socialism is equated with authoritarianism then how’s that for the latter?
Joshius from what I understand, they think they'll be paying a huge amount for other people through taxes. They don't seem to understand that we don't pay ridiculous amounts of taxes for this in countries like the UK
ThorniMation indeed. But don’t think it was down to labour alone. The Bevin nhs was not meant to last. It was supposed to get the country fit and well and then be closed to return to the old system. However and thankfully it continued in perpetuity. Inspire of all parties using it as a political hot topic to the constant detriment of the NHS itself
As a British citizen, I'm very proud of the NHS. That's why whenever I hear a politician say they want to privatise the NHS I vote for whoever is running against them. Keep your slimy private hands off the NHS! Especially if they from the US we all know what they are like.
Most NHS services have always been provided by private contractors. GPs. If a private company can provide a high quality service for less money why do you think we should keep paying more and getting less?
TK UA actually they buy generics of drugs developed in the US. US spends all the money developing new drugs and then other countries piggyback off of that.
@@ogc9649 The US doesn't produce any drugs, go search it, there hasn't been a single drug made in the US since the last factory closed in the early 00's. The UK is actually a massive drugs researcher and exporter, it's one of the biggest parts of the UK's economy... We actually invent and sell drugs to the US.
I work at a theatre and an American shocked me when she said people with epilepsy in the U.S wear bracelets saying "DONT call an ambulance" as they can't afford the bills. I was shocked that supposedly "the greatest country in the world" doesn't care for the health of it's people. Furthermore I have only needed hospitalisation ONCE and that was to have a tooth out... I didn't have to pay... never ONCE in 35 years have I spent a second resenting that my tax is spent on free healthcare. Never!
@@anthonyh4745 Just to add on to another comment replying to yours. Typically only adults pay a fee of dental, or eye checkups. Otherwise for children, it is free and covered fully by the NHS (anyone under the age of 19). If it is a serious issue involving the eyes or teeth that will have you undergo an operation in a hospital, it will be covered by the NHS. Stuff for glasses such as lens thinning and anti-glare are add-ons to be paid for but are discounted iirc? Someone will have to correct me on that.
I am disabled and always injuring myself and the last time I seriously injured my body I never went to hospital because of the fares to hospital and so I didn’t get treated because I didn’t have enough money to get to hospital not because of the treatment
“Socialised medicine” because everyone pays for it? So, is it a “socialised police service” or do you pay every time you dial 911? How about when your house catches fire? Is that a pay per use service?
I think it's funny how Americans always want to apply their own loaded terminology and binary political standards to other countries whose political discourse and social awareness are so much more sophisticated and developed. It's like listening to a ten year old try to explain 'ethics' to a moral philosopher.
@@anserbauer309 . I think it's because a large percentage of US citizens have absolutely no idea how things are so different in most other countries. America is virtually the only country in the world where workers have no legal entitlement to paid annual leave, yet few appear to realise what they are missing. They claim universal healthcare would mean raising taxes but again don't realise, they are already paying more for far less.
Far too many Americans cannot differentiate between socialism and communism. As you point out, they already have socialised police, fire department, also education from kindergarten through high school. And what is the military, if not socialised defence ? So why not healthcare ? The answer is money. Too many big corporations are making billions from the system in its current format, and they are not going to give up without a big fight. So they talk down socialism as if it's evil like communism, when the reality is it's looking after your fellow American. What could be more patriotic than that ?
@@wulfhere83 Ah, but I bet you had to wait until all your teeth had fallen out, before you got that appointment though, right cos of all the waiting lists /s
@@natalielueders6502 I don't know whether you're replying to my first or second response. If first..... Big deal, without knowing how much you pay that's meaningless. If the second, "/s" = "sarcasm".
yikes it's not a few hours buddy. It seems every other week the NHS leaves people in medical beds in hallways for weeks to months or until they die. I'm not sure how this video is positive on the NHS. If you wanna know how bad the NHS is just google "NHS in crisis" those articles come out every 3 and a half weeks in the UK
If it's payed for by everyone and available to everyone then it is socialised, just like the police, fire department, military, schools, libraries, etc. All socialised.
Rob Fraser and what’s the issue with that though... Americans use this phrase like socialised medicine is a *bad* thing. But having education, emergency services etc available to everyone isn’t really bad is it? How can equal access be bad? What we’re seeing in America is those who can not afford health care are being unfairly disadvantaged and are in a much much worse position. This would never happen in the UK because *everybody* has access to healthcare, regardless of their socioeconomic background.
@@jess4709 There is no issue with it. Conservative Americans just don't like socialism because they are told to by the rich US aristocracy. In the early 1900's socialist and communist movements spread around the world as working class people decided to seize power from the ultra rich. In the US they at first criminalised socialists as "communist sympathisers" until that was deemed unconstitutional and then they tried to limit exposure to socialism by blacklisting anyone on TV or radio who spoke about it. Eventually they discovered that you could just brainwash the masses by convincing them that socialism was created by Satan or that being socialist means living like the North Koreans do. The billionaires that pull the strings will do anything to protect their obscene profits, much of which they get from charging sick people.
@@jess4709 We are capitalist socialist, we were fully socialist after world war 2 when everything got nationalised under labour but the Tories have gradually privatised everything and those privatised industries have moved abroad. British Leyland Motorcars, British Rail, British Steel, British Aerospace, British Petroleum, etc, all got sold off and eventually moved elsewhere. That's what happens when you sell something, the new owner can switch it off and take it with them.
I'm from the UK and agree with free healthcare. But the issue is in the US Bernie's plan is too fast and too destructive. Yes, you should move towards a system that provides cheap/free healthcare however you need to also take care of those who work in the private insurance industry that would get shut down. Your countries system has been the same for so long that it will take a while to introduce such a system hence Andrew Yang's plan should have been taken more seriously.
"longer to see GP's" - Lol I can call my GP at 8am tomorrow and see them same day. I had a bad kidney infection last year and needed to see someone asap on a weekend. I called 111 and went to an out of hours GP surgery few hours later and got the free medication I needed to feel better within 48 hours.
Depends were you are though. In some areas, theres one practice for multiple areas with high driving times. And in places like London, ive felt that it can take a while. Though overall I do prefer our system
Average wait to see a doctor in the US is 24 days. in the uk it's 15 days. The waiting list in the uk is a myth it's comparable with the US or better in most cases the only part of the american health system that is better is at the sharp end of the system with state of the art devices and treatments. Treatments and devises most Americans can't actually afford. In order for this to happen they lower the levels of care at the very bottom the idea in the US of preventative care is none existent. You make more money in treatment than you do insuring people don't get sick. In the Uk the NHS save money preventing illness so that is the approach they take. Mental health care in the US is a joke as well.
@@charlesbentley6033 There's NHS at Hand in London that deliveries services digitally with clinics around London if you need to see someone face to face. My 'ordinary' GP practice in West London now does most doctors calls by phone/ video - ring in the morning and get a callback later that morning ... Digital prescriptions mean your prescriptions can be fulfilled at a pharmacy anywhere in the country. Americans are being deceived by misleading emotive language - on the UK you have the right to free medical treatment and that can be delivered through a public or private provider.
i live in UK - got diagnosed with breast cancer in August 2020. Had operation within 2 weeks of diagnosis, radiotherapy in the September and back at work beginning of November. Brilliant service, no long waiting times. Caring follow-up. NHS is the best. Anyone who knocks it is ignorant of the facts or lying.
@@adventurem8887 That would be authoritarian-left. The authoritarian/libertarian axis is something that keeps being completely ignored soooo damn often which is why the label of communist for Bernie (and a decent percentage of lefties (though there's a disturbingly high percentage of authoritarian-lefties.... the ones who're all for censorship of views they don't like etc)) is so inaccurate as he's clearly not authoritarian.
Americans don't care what europeans think, and for good reason. Europes historical track record is abysmal. The United States is the only country that never defaulted on its debt in the 20th century. Even the UK defaulted in its debt in 1932, although they try to deny it by blaming it on Germany or downplay it by stretching the definition of solvency.
As a conservative I think the NHS is the greatest thing to ever happen to this country. Healthcare is a right not a privilege and I will fight to defend healthcare for all people in the UK.
Thank God we don't have free health care... 4 months wait for a 10 minute consultation with a doctor 😂. The NHS is the favourite tool of Brits to shame other countries and the best boasting tool... Lmao they comment on American and other rich countries health care systems. The NHS seems like a policy for the poor people, of the poor country, financed by poor citizens. 😂
Yep, look up, by NHS rules a doctor isn't allowed to meet his/her patients for more than 10 minutes. Every appointment with a doctor takes a minimum of 13 weeks. It's all a scam. Oh, one more thing, if you have a diabetic l, blood pressure and heart problems. You are allowed to treat only one problem at a time. For the other two you'll have to wait again for 13 x 2 weeks.
The uk has a system that goes 1. If you have a problem see your Pharmacist or call 111 for advice. 2. If the problem persists or you have been advised to by the 111 operator or pharmacist, see your GP. 3. If you have been referred by the GP to a specialist you will be referred to a specialist at a NHS hospital or a specialist GP. 1.1. If you have a problem that is immediate or life threatening call 999 2.1 Your problem is rated depending on how serious it is and how much of a threat to your life that problem is, this will determine your wait for the ambulance. 2.2 Alternatively, if on 111 they advise you to go to hospital, you will make your way to the hospital where they will already have your details at check in, speeding up your waiting time. 1.2. If you have had an accident and know it is serious but not life threatening, you can check your self in at A & E (Emergency Room for Americans) and they will treat your serious injury. If anything is inaccurate please feel free to correct me but this is from my known knowledge so don’t hate 😂
One of the problems of course is that many people bypass all that and go straight to A&E, so the waiting room is the clogged up with people who really don't need to be there.
If I’m correct, in the Uk, if you are 18+, you pay about $10 for *any* prescription, no matter if the raw cost of the drug is £1 or £100, it’s amazing for people with chronic expensive medical problems
Couple of small corrections: prescriptions are free in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. In England, they are about £10 per item, however if you need regular prescriptions you can pay a flat fee (£30 for 3 months or £110 for an entire year) which will cover the cost of all prescriptions during that period.
Yes. Only for those in work earning a certain ammount have to pay. But if you are on different meds, picking up your monthly perscription for 5 different meds...5 lots (blood pressure meds, anti-depresents, diabeties meds, epilepsy meds, anti-biotic, pain killers, sleepers 🤤😂 opiods, creams, vitamins and everyrhing you can think of. of 30 days medication....it is still £10. One item or 10. Still a flat rate of £10. But most people will go because of a painful water infection that won't shift for example. Do your samples, get your meds amd away you go. Be riots (forever) if they tried to sell it off.
I’ve had three children all in the nhs including one that was Caesarean section birth. Cost zero. Excellent service and staffing. Every car crash or illness is covered for everyone. Regardless of how your career of general circumstances are. Everyone on the globe should have a similar system.
Add a Tax to the following specifically for healthcare: 1-Fast food 2-sodas , junk food and candies 3-tobacco 4-alcohol Take that revenue and use it to expand Medicare and Medicaid to cover those that are not currently covered and to subsidize the rest’s health insurance premiums
Taxing alcohol and tobacco is recessive and worsens inequality. Middle income / wealth save large proportion of there income Lower income spend all there income If both consumed tobacco and alcohol at the same rate the lower income person would be paying a larger proportion of their income in tax On top of this, due to systemic social issues lower income on average consume more tobacco and alcohol
@Natnael Guliano Yes but goods like tobacco have inelastic demand so large increases in tax result in small reductions in consumption, thus the tax is less effective for discouraging behaviour and very effective at generating revenue (from the poor). The current and past neoliberal tory and new labour governments uses this recessive tax income from tobacco tax and VAT to enable them to cut taxes on elites and the upper middle class. The point of public healthcare is we pay for it collectively, not burden those with disease (addiction) disproportionately. A more equitable way to discourage smoking or the harm of smoking would be to mandate decreasing the tobacco content in cigeretes, aggressively subsidise less harmful alternatives like vaping and nictotine patches, perhaps capping the ammount of tobacco an individual can buy with some sort of rationing system, or at least entrenching the idea that all revenue from taxes on demerit goods should go back to the communities that are burdened by the taxes and into subsidising alternatives.
The people calling it socialism don't realise that we also have the option to pay for private healthcare too. I also pay for private healthcare as it's quicker to be seen.
As an American Expat living in London, I am PROUD of the NHS! I can't even imagine going back to the US system. When I needed to have a heart valve repaired, still living in California, even with very good insurance. I still paid $4000 for the procedure. Here it would have all just been done and thats that. My medications are cheap for what I need. And unlike some insurance in the States, I don't need to add additional prescription drug coverage or worry if the drug I need will be covered.
I'm just going to point out that NHS Scotland is controlled by the Scottish Parliament, not the UK Parliament and because of this, prescription drugs are free in Scotland.
Jordan Cunningham www.businessforscotland.com/scotlands-nhs-outperforms-the-rest-of-the-uk-heres-why/ and give this article a read. It shows how stone Scottish NHS is actually the best performing in the uk!
Except one (Tories) has waged a war on the "publicness" of it for decades, whilst the another (Labour) is more limp-wristed in it's attempts. The other's (we don't have a firm duopoly) vary.
I'm so proud to be English and so proud to have the NHS, especially in these times. I cannot imagine how it must feel to actually worry about how you are going to PAY for medical care or treatment, the idea is inconceivable to me.
@@WalesTheTrueBritons Yes, Aneurin Bevan the Labour Politician. But I am English and England has the NHS also, therefore I am proud to live in the country and have access to that. It wasn't shade to any of the other countries in the Union at all.
@@Tom-dg5zp All countries have the NHS, England NHS, Northern Ireland NHS, Scotland NHS, and Wales NHS. We shouldn't see ourselves as English,Welsh,Northern Irish or Scottish but as British, working together to make United Kingdom a better Union.
Fire Hazzard I know. See previous response to first commenter. I don’t think picking apart for an in the moment lexical choice makes for a stronger union though, personally.
The US has socialised education, socialised army, socialised navy, socialised airforce, socialised police, socialised fire service so what’s the problem with socialised health care
@@procrastinatingotaku I was referring to the US school system where it is provided free by the government but if you want to pay to go private you can. That is like the UKs health service
My friend had an asthma attack even though he hadn’t ever had shown signs of asthma before and went to the hospital and didn’t have to pay a penny but if it were America his family would probably lost a lot of money
glow_ cute think an ambulance trip is like 2-5 gs in America, depending where you live. Lots of people drive or get ubers instead. That's why the mortality rate of uber passengers is much higher in America than anywhere else in the world
@@alastairp it's not 20% and why should people who pay more get preference? The more serious a threat the quicker you are seen. It's supposed to be a beneficial service for ALL
About 3 years ago I was admitted to hospital with kidney stones and a severe gall bladder infection which required surgery. Didn’t cost me a penny, and at no point was I ever worried about bills or being made homeless due to medical costs. Thank you NHS
15 years ago, I had chemo followed by a stem cell transplant. I was diagnosed by the NHS and treated start to finish. I had the best care available and came through clean as a whistle. Because I’d paid into the system over the years, I claimed it back by living. Didn’t have to sell my house, didn’t have to worry about my treatment. What’s not to like? Three years of treatment sorted as you go...
And it was the creation of a great Welshman. A colossus. And i say that as an Englishman. Thank you Aneurin Bevan. You took on and defeated the same sort of people who oppose socialised medicine in America today. It was an idea born in Wales and he saw it and realised it could liberate ordinary people from fear. We owe this giant of a man a debt that can never be re-paid. The present crisis has reminded people how special it is and we will never let it go.
Paul G it’s amazing how chilled the welsh are about the union compared to Scotland. They see the benefits are are pretty quiet about it. Compare that to Scotland. Which I just don’t get, on any metric the Scottish people would be worse off on there own. Yet the same could be said about Britain and the EU yet we still left. Maybe we just like to shoot ourself in the foot allot.
Really? Maybe I have been unlucky, but each time I have tried to speak to a pharmacist about an issue, all her advice is "go and see your doctor". Complete waste of time!
@@bobbailey8246 because diagnosing a patient isn't their expertise. If they do recommend something incorrectly, they can get sued. Their job includes such things as making sure the elderly receive their drugs on time, signing off prescriptions, organising this with technicians, changing the concentration of the drug for infants etc. They're still very important within the NHS. I would like Nurses, Radiographers, Physician associates, physiotherapists to get more recognition.
Bob Bailey that pharmacist should be able to provide basic medical knowledge(not diagnosis). If the pharmacist thought that there was no treatment available otc then they would’ve recommend you go to your GP
i'm british and we have the same idea as americans - we have an insurance system, everyone pays into the insurance fund and that money pays for the health care of those who get sick. What we don't have though is people making profit from it. I never understand americans who say they don't want their money to go to pay for other people- that's what an insurance system is. the people whose houses don't burn down are the ones who pay when someone else's house does burn down
@@Pedro-tm6ue Insurance accounts for about 3-4 cents for every healthcare dollar spent. It's like saying, "this elephant is way too big for this room, chop his trunk off." Insurance profits seem like a lot, but they're not, in the grand scheme of things. Even if insurance was gone, administrative costs will remain. Things will need to be coordinated and processed. it's unavoidable and won't even put a dent in overall consumer costs. The bulk of consumer costs is because of hospitals, doctors, healthcare facilities, pharmaceutical companies, and costs of procedures.
Alex Evans take a look at some of the replies fella they’re comical, saying how if you earn 38 grand you get taxed 40% on all of it and that 🤣 shows how uneducated people can be
@@Bruss390 It wouldn't be such a glaring error if they didn't have a marginal tax rate system themselves. But they do. I assumed theirs was different because they can't understand ours. But no, it's the same. Different numbers same calculation.
At 27 years old, so far in my lifetime I've broken multiple bones (including needing metal reconstruction in my arm), had multiple rounds of antibiotics to fight infections and been seen by a doctor whenever I've felt ill. I've had an ambulance called to take me to A&E three times and so far the most I've paid up front has been £9 for the tablets I needed for a chest infection. I've paid taxes out of my wages since I was 18 and believe the NHS is the best thing to exist. I have friends in other countries and the amount they have to pay for the same service is insane.
Let’s hope now Boris being in an NHS hospital with corona makes him/his government more appreciative of it, what it does and the need to preserve it. It’s a truly special service.
As a guy from the UK it a no brainer. I don't think that there's anyone in the UK that thinks the NHS is a bad idea. I had a burst appendicitis, not one minute did i think can i afford to pay for the treatment. Nobody feels bad that you are taxed from your earnings. We all one day will fall sick, or know of a love one that is sick. It's not perfect but we are glad we have it.
“No thank you, I don’t want your communism. My family and I are quite happy to die an unpleasant death from the 1770s so we can be free”. Said the American who doesn’t understand Socialism, let alone Communism. 3/4 Americans don’t know who they fought in WW2. Many can’t translate what WW2 is, either.
No one chooses to get sick or be in an accident. It can happen to anyone. The NHS means you can get the help you need no matter what your circumstances are. We all have care when what we don't expect happens. We also have the option for private insurance if people have the money they have that option. I have lived in the states and in Europe and experienced health care all over, despite waiting times it feels a lot better living in the uk, the NHS is amazing, and I would not choose live in a country without health care for all.
For context if you earn £24,000 here in the UK for the year, roughly 4k of that will be tax and national insurance. The contribution pays for policing, the fire service, and all your health-care needs plus other public services.
I’m in the U.K. and have to tell the truth now. Our health care system has collapsed. I’m considering going private after 2 family members , one of whom is a child , is being refused appointments. They now wait until you are forced into accident and emergency. It used to be structured and the pride of the nation. It is now a complete disaster in tatters. I don’t know if we are being driven to this on purpose.
The NHS is one of the things I'm most proud of as a British person. But as a 16 year old I got no say in the last election, and will now have no say in how this vital system changes in the next 3 or 4 years until the next election. They've done wonderful work during the pandemic so far.
Being from the UK I found it so werid that other countries government don’t pay for basic health care - Atleast to a degree that it doesn’t bankrupt you to heal yourself. To me it’s been ingrained that gov - tht stature of collective development that this is a must - aswell as things like housing and military. I would always exact someone form of gov intervention on basics rather than running it like a business.
we have Medicare Medicaid same thing it pays for medical insurance for poor people everyone else can afford health insurance roughly $700 £562.02 per year in expensive cheaper than your NHS TAX £1800 so id rather pay my insurance fee
Covfefe the UK charges tax based upon income, there isn’t a flat fee, plus that health insurance will only cover you to a certain extent, cancer treatment in the UK is covered by the NHS however in America it’s about $150,000 and even if your insurance does cover it your premium will skyrocket
This is surprisingly similar to Costa Rica's healthcare system, but ours was founded 7 years before. We also have, besides the big hospitals, smaller clinics that do first aid and prevention work.
He would just be considered left or center left by European standards. Definitely not conservative or Centrist. If that were the case then Joe Biden would be Mussolini and All European countries would be marxist-leninist. What kind of shrooms are you consuming.
I am no socialist - I regard myself as centre ground here in the UK - but I totally believe that my fellow human beings get the healthcare they need, when they need it. Nobody asks to be ill or disabled!
I have a story to share. I came to the UK as an international student and I have been living here since sep 2021. Recently, I have been on hike in the Scottish Countryside and knocked off my k-9 tooth by stumbling on a rock. I was bleeding on the top of the summit and it was a sunday. I went there with a hiking society group and two of their leaders were with me and called the NHS, I was bleeding from my gum and in a lot of pain. they asked me lots of questions but they made sure I was treated and they arranged me an emergency dental appointment in a nearest hospital and when I went there I was not asked for any documents, papers or insurance. I was straight up treated and before going in when the receptionist told me that I won't be charged a single penny because I am younger than 26, I was just grateful. I was starving and probably felt a lil bit dizzy from fatigue and hunger. They offered me glucose water and helped me to drink.💙
I feel like Australia’s healthcare system is really similar to the United Kingdom’s, I’m pretty sure with Medicare we all pay taxes that go towards it. I’m pretty sure it’s public to everyone that needs it except the people with a substantial amount of money.
Is it true that Australians get a spreadsheets from the government to specify where their money went towards? imo this would make a lot more people feel like theyre not getting scammed and in turn be more willing to pay the taxes if they can just see what they're paying for.
Here in Holland I pay 153 euros per month for full healthcare, someone on low pay, or on social security, is paid back 107 euros per month, so their total healthcare bill comes to 46 euros per month. this covers everything from doctors visits, prescriptions, hospital stays, surgery.... America can only dream of such a system. It works here because EVERYONE pays insurance (except under 18 yrs old), and we know that although we may only use the medical services rarely, one day we may rely on it, so the collective healthcare plan helps us. We simply don't even think about healthcare costs, we're left to worry about more important things like buying a beer.
Britain doesn't get an inferior Healthcare system, quite the opposite. British people in general are very grateful for the NHS and loved it. We just don't pay big business at profit for doing it.
In the UK we don’t mind paying tax for the NHS and other social programs. It may not be perfect...but it works well enough for us from cradle to grave. Our taxes also pay for the military. Would an American call that socialist as well??? American politicians need to re-educate themselves on the definitions of socialism and liberalism. Here’s an idea, why not make lobbying illegal. The US could save a sh1t load of money.
All western European states have universal healthcare. Only uk Ireland have this nhs idea. No one else on continental Europe has ever wanted to copy it. They all have demonstrably better healthcare systems than we do in the uk. Partly,one suspects,because they view healthcare as something to do with health not as some creepy national religion to be worshipped.
Medication at pharmacy if prescription is around £7, however a lot of people get their medication for free like me. I checked and if I paid for medication in US without insurance I would have to spend about $200+ on my medication and that is a rough estimate.
Torran Irwin NW5 Pity that successive tory and neoliberal governments have been quietly gutting it whilst the adoring British public pretend it isn’t happening and continue to vote for more austerity for the many. All government ministers should be forced to use publicly-owned schools and healthcare providers. Then we might see some proper investment.
@@AtheistEve I'm sure they'll have realised how important support for the NHS really is once the pandemic blows over. Took a huge chunk off their money simply because they wouldn't invest properly in it before hand and I doubt they'll let a mistake like that happen again if they can help it.
I don't think many of these Americans actually understand the differences between these economic systems. They're just taught "capitalism good, socialism bad".
The problem is that Americans have been conditioned to think that socialism is the same as soviet communism, that politics is a simple black and white choice with no shades of grey in between. That's why the rest of the world laughs when Bernie Sanders is described as "far left"!
@@Sarge084 then how come almost every attempt at socialism has failed? And don't tell me Europe is socialist, they have some of the best business and free market environments on Earth.
The USA has the biggest defence budget in the world, all American's contribute to that via their taxes, so Uncle Sam has a socialised defence budget. Go figure.
The US does have the largest defense budget, and it helps other countries more than our own. Imagine the day we stop having military bases abroad and other countries have to start footing the bill for their own protection. We are the developed country that relies the least amount on international trade. I am one for our country to stop defending other countries and let them take over and see how it turns out. And we could fund our healthcare with that money. But oh wait, I forget we already spend more on Medicare and Medicaid than our defense budget. And those are for the elderly and the poor. Maybe it is more than just taking away military spending.
@@NAUM1 the reason your healthcare costs so much more is the fact that you allow hospitals, doctors, and big pharma to set their own prices. One of the advantages of universal healthcare is that your country has the ability to negotiate down those prices on your behalf. When you are sick your ability to drive the price of treatment is effectively zero. But the government has a pretty effective bargaining chip. Us. The entire population of your country. Either you give us treatment at a price that we believe is fair, or you lose access to the entire population. Considering that in my country I pay less than half for my healthcare than you do, and we experience far better outcomes, it seems to be working.
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@@hobmoor2042 yeah I agree, fed up with the slightest thing and they're down on our country as if we are rotten or pathetic. We can't win sometimes. But I love this country and there's more good, kind people living here than horrible, racist etc people. Let them moan,we know the truth and we're proud. 🇬🇧❤️💙💜💛🧡💚👏👏
Many great people work for the NHS but in reality not everyone working in the NHS is a hero. Keep in mind that there is an army of non clinical NHS workers in which the spread of good people who add value is about the same as private companies in my experience.
Here here. I would rather pay more tax and keep our healthcare. It’s such an important part of our country and I wouldn’t want anyone having to decide between being well or bankrupt!
I work for the NHS. Believe me when I say it's not perfect. We're understaffed and underfunded. But we get the job done! The NHS is arguably the best British creation. God bless 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸
nothing great about Britain. I appreciate you guys and what you do & understand why many of you guys leave to go to Australia and wherever else but the people put the NHS even more at risk cus they don't like seeing people like me and you, Tahmed, in 'their country'
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 I agree. So many people in the UK have completely unjustified prejudice towards foreigners however, I don't believe it is something that stains the entire country. There are plenty of people who appreciate anyone here in Britain regardless of race, religion or nationality
About 30 years ago (yes, I'm old), I was working alongside some American guys on a job here in the UK. Unfortunately one of these guys had an accident and quite badly damaged hi hand- blood every where in spurts level of damage. The first aid guy on our crew got a pressure bandage on the damage and and said that he needed to go to hospital and that he would call an ambulance. The American guy freaked out. The firm that he worked for had not provided medical cover for their team while working abroad, and while his colleagues had taken out medical insurance, he hadn't, so he was panicking about how he would pay for an ambulance and treatment. We explained to him, that, technically as a non Brit he should be charged for treatment, the reality was that in the NHS they very, very rarely did this. In fact they tended NOT to ask about nationality etc, and that it would cost him nothing. He was taken to hospital, having had more work done on his injury by the paramedics who came. He came back to the worksite the following day. He was all bandaged up, and couldn't really work, but he wanted to hear again how we, could afford to offer treatment that would probably cost at the very least several hundred dollars. It took him a while to get his head round how the NHS is funded. 2 years later I ran into the same guy on another work site . He had gone back to the States and looked into how Britain was run, education, healthcare, policing etc. He made the decision that although he loved the USA, he decided to emigrate to the UK with his wife and their daughter because he could see that here we, have very similar ideals to the USA, but are a safer country to live and raise a family. His daughter (and her 2 brothers who were born here) are British citizens.
I’m an American and got food poisoning or a tummy virus last year while in London. Had to go to the emergency room and wasn’t charged anything. My biggest criticism is the lack of empathy the front desk employees displayed. Here in Miami , the waiting room staff make sure you are comfortable (i.e. get you a blanket, barf bag) while waiting.
Barbara Vyse with visits to NHS hospitals etc they will expect you to sort yourself out in some respects such as keeping pressure on a wound or bringing water or food with you especially if you are waiting to be admitted. If your not a serious case then, you generally have to have a bit of common sense and a stiff upper lip. In the U.K. there is very much a “just get on with it” attitude for a lot of things.
Reminds me in my country where some employers & doctors have been called out for giving their employees only 2 days of MC for worksite accidents, when their injuries actually require additional MC, because my country's legislation allows employers to not report worksite accidents if the MC given is less than 3 days
There was an American ranting on youtube a while back, saying that gun ownership is a fundamental natural human right, but healthcare is a privilege...
I love America, I respect most Americans for their proud patriotic view on their country, in fact I envy them I think it’s brilliant. But the one thing I hate about the US and Americans in general is their blind stupidity towards guns. Most argue that you need guns to protect yourself, but the only reason they need to protect themselves in the first place is because people have guns...??. Here in the UK I think it’s 10-50 people die every year from guns (or a similar number). I understand that most Americans are proud of the ‘Right to bear arms’, but the US would be so much safer and better to live in without.
Fiddly Polo-English dude Slusarczyk There’s no way we get ‘60-150’ that number is preposterous. I can’t remember the last time I read about a shooting or heard about one in the news, I’d say 10-25 per year at tops, people just don’t get shot in the UK and dying from being shot? Very rare. Usually when they do it’s in an area like Greater London or Manchester but even then most crimes are with blades/blunt weapons.
his ideas are based around basic human rights and for some reason ppl still don't want to vote for that? I mean the UK didn't either I just need to stop being surprised people just need to actually start realising who is actually going to make a positive difference and that ain't Biden or trump and what is happening now is a perfect example of that...
@Don Ghiata Bernie is just a social democrat. Over here in Europe he would be considered barely center-left. From an outside perspective the US doesn't even have a real "left" party. The Dems are moderate-right and the Reps right to far right by international standards.
When you look at the difference in UK vs US healthcare, remember no one in the UK has ever taken an Uber to hospital in an emergency because they’re worried about an ambulance bill.
The ambulances are either run by the NHS (e.g. LAS) or working with the NHS (St John etc.) and therefore free of charge. Nobody should take an Uber to A&E because of car accidents or heart attacks.
People in the UK dont call an ambulance unless its needed. Basic breaks, injuries etc they would get a lift to A&E. Worse breaks for hips or legs, head injury, stroke, heart attack, breathing problems etc, they would call an ambulance. It depends on urgency of the problem, suitability of appropriate transport and proximity to the A&E dept.
It should be taken into account that, depending on the nature of the emergency, treatment starts the moment the person enters the ambulance. I once had to call an ambulance to get my disabled neighbour off the floor after she had fallen.
ESClad that’s pretty much the definition of socialism though: from each according to their means, to each according to their need. The problem is the word “socialism” has been stigmatised and demonised when really a lot of it is common sense, particularly when applied to things like health care
@@asahdo Socialism stamps-out the will to achieve more and better oneself, it's a system that wants everyone the exact same, no better no worse. The NHS is constantly bettering itself so it is different and not socialist.
@@esclad I think you are confusing socialism with communism. It is not an inherent part of socialism to stamp-out the will to achieve more or better oneself nor does it necessarily want everyone the exact same. There are different forms of socialism but the general definition is that the public own the means of production. The NHS is owned by the British people, we all pay towards it from our taxes based on what we can afford to give and we all receive from it based on what we need. That is socialist.
As a teenager from the UK I would like to put my perspective forward,i was born into a family of 4 siblings raised by divorced parents so we didn’t have much money, none of my siblings had any needs from the NHS however I had a form of cancer in my ear, 2 asthma attacks, grommets, tonsillitis and pneumonia all of which in between the space of 2 years. I would have died if I had lived in America as my bill would have come to around £300,000 minimum. My family members will no doubt pay the government back on the cost of these via tax rather than profit going to private companies that would overcharge or have simply left me to die. I owe my life to the NHS and the great staff who cared for me Edit: after other people mentioned these things there’s other things I’ve forgotten such a braces, the time I fainted and the 4 teeth I needed removing, there is also things all the checks my mother would have had if I was born in hospital like my siblings(born in my moms bedroom) and vaccines and asthma inhalers along with multiple of my grommets falling out days after surgery.I’ve never had any problems with ambulance times and it’s agreed that it’s a matter of government spending,most people want more funding for the NHS which is why every political party has it in their manifesto
Best thing I’ve read. I also owe so much to the NHS, my dad has had 3 heart attacks, my mum spent almost 4 months in hospital with leg problems, I’ve had countless asthma attacks and we’re all on medication. For me alone, my inhalers would cost around £200 a month, and as a student who works part time, you would have to make a choice between breathing or an education.
Same here. My family have had to deal with ‘little’ things like broken elbows all they way up to having a pacemaker fitted( after having to call an ambulance basically every year for 4 years as my brothers heart kept stopping) My sister worked for the NHS as a midwife before she left giving many years to the service. Is it perfect? No- having a family member who works for the NHS shows you that. But I am forever thankful for it and for all the people behind it.
I too have suffered through the trauma of grommets... in all seriousness though you must be an absolute beast to have survived all that, even with the NHS
I’m British - we do find our health services! We pay for it as part of our taxes! We are not a socialist country, but we British believe that tax is not a bad thing as long as it is spent on things that are beneficial for us! In America tax is a dirty word and generally Americans believe in lowest lower bottom tax levels as possible! We do not see it as socialist! We are not a socialist nation but we see fairness very very differently to America! We see the American system as broken too expensive and discriminatory (not on colour or religion but financial!). I have see this report and you have missed one huge point! The people of Britain would not stand for the loss of the NHS it is central to our culture and it all parties know this! The NHS is not for sale! EVER! But I agree with you Aki Fujikawa! But the bottom line is TAX! And how taxes are spent or how much they are!
@Crispy Bud where did you get that nonsense from?? 😄😄 "Daily Mail", I guess... It costs symbolic amount of money, just to avoid people going there for almost no reason... also yang and older people are exempt from those fees
Americans are terrified of tax for whatever reason which is beyond me because the sole purpose is to benefit the PEOPLE. On top of that it's cheaper than insurance because *everyone* is contributing, it's more expensive to build up insurance that only you will be paying than for everyone to pay a small % that benefits everyone equally. People there are so terrified of tax for no reason.
Makes me ashamed, I've sadly been let down by the NHS (which is not free considering the UK has some of the highest tax in the world). Had I known how terrible the NHS was, I would have just gone private earlier.
@BigWilki123321 everyone gets healthcare in the uk for half the price and 99% of the nation are also proud. And no taxes are not very high here. Scandenavia tax is high but you get a lot more for your money like free university and strong welfare.
@BigWilki123321 No, its because we look at the US and see that the number one cause of bankruptcy is due to medical bills. We see they are paying more than twice as much as we do per person and yet have higher child mortality rates and lower life expectancy. All of this has been crystal clear to UK citizens since the NHS was founded after WWII- and has been made even clearer in this pandemic. Its why all political parties in the UK (both left and right wing) support the NHS. It guarantees healthcare for the vulnerable in society all while costing substantially less than the US system. There are fundamental ideological differences between the UK and USA that aren't always obvious but are underlined by our approaches to healthcare. I had surgery under the NHS that would have cost $200,000 had it been in the US, and I didn't have to pay a penny upfront, I know that I have and will pay back into the system through tax over the course of my lifetime. The UK praises its NHS like the US praises its military, its one of the few things that everyone in the UK stands behind and is one of the things that makes me proud to be British.
@@banshee1998 yes. Because a tiny amount is going to them. A large amount is going to the teenager who was just involved in a hit and run. The parents can stay by their bed side and care for them. Or the chronically ill child with cancer, who can stay in hospital for months at a time undergoing intense treatment and it not cost a penny. Or the palative care for the 89 year old grandma that means she is comfortable in her last hours. Or the team that saves a mother and her child in a complex delivery. Not to mention the mental heath care that just stopped a 22 year old man from killing himself
Imagine playing football in the US and your mate puts a bad, mistimed tackle in that breaks your leg and bankrupts your family. Mind boggling that in the UK you would just pop down to A&E and leave later for FREE
@@alastairp only experience I've had was when I broke my ankle, ambulance called, rushed in right away, x-rayed etc within the hour of it happening, stayed the night, was operated on and left by morning, couldn't have been more efficient
I find it totally bizarre to hear the NHS described as some impossible dream. It’s your right. Literally what is the point of schools, roads, police, firemen, if you’re dead
Ok look at it from the perspective of someone who has lived in the US all their life and paying large amounts of money for healthcare is all we have ever known, we didn't choose to be born here but we were and this is the life we know and so free healthcare is a foreign concept to us that seems like a pipe dream.
Mahdi Mohammadi I think he's about as left wing as Merkel. Their policies are probably pretty much aligned, in fact he might be too the right of her on some issues. And I don't remember anyone in Germany accusing her of being far left
Guinness yeah but in Europe even merkel isn’t considered far left. Although I would say she leans to the left I wouldn’t class it as extreme. But that’s just my view and I am an outsider to German politics so I may be wrong.
Here’s how it works UK: “I feel ill, I’ll go see a doctor in case it’s anything serious” US: “I feel ill. I hope it’s nothing serious because I can’t afford to go see a doctor”
Sam Doohan I think you’ve taken a basic imagined scenario and imposed the worst possible intentions, and in doing so completely missed the original point.
We first go to the chemist if there are some concerns. Then if it’s something more serious, we will see a GP, and if necessary, a specialist or allied health practitioner. If something really bad happens, we can go to the A&E and have things sorted. Or in the worst case scenarios, we can call 999 and get an ambulance to the A&E for treatment.
Sam Doohan your missing the point the point is we don’t have to worry about bankrupting our selves for a routine check up most of us brits wouldn’t go “just in case” but we could
You should have a read of this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-50836324 The media has an agenda, selling the benefits of the NHS, but it's not all that rosey. There's pros ann cons.
@@BritishFreedom Yet another non British person spreading propaganda about how bad the NHS is by use 1 example. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40608253 here's one from a US Think Tank that put UK 1st and America last out of 11 countries. worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world here's another, ok the UK is 18th here, but the US is 37th behind Costa Rica and just above Slovenia!
Even if i never need the nhs and pay into it my whole life through tax, I’m still happy in the knowledge that the money is well spent and goes towards helping my fellow countrymen. If i were paying for health insurance, that money is going to a greedy insurance company that will increase my rates as i get older, not cool!
Big dundee that’s the biggest problem with Americans, they don’t care for everyone else’s welfare. I’m happy to pay into the NHS because it’s an amazing cause, and if I ever need it - it’s there. I’d hate to live in a county knowing that nobody cares about you or anyone.
It's great, say what I like without the fear that the police could come crashing through my door at any second for saying mean words (one guy in Scotland was fined £850 for telling a joke on youtube) that sounds like tyranny to me.
Laurence Cursaro ridiculous - the video literally went through the metrics and the NHS is cheaper and better. But hey, don’t let facts stand I the way of your opinions.
@@BeardiusMaximus Bernie Sanders' policies are literally considered conservative in Europe. David Cameron, the conservative PM from 2010-2015 is more left than Bernie Sanders.
@@jackwhite2046 Yeah, that's simply not true. You're also gonna have to be more specific than "Europe" (Cameron was a pro-business , austerity driven conservative who was trying to negotiate the privatization of the NHS through backdoor channels). To claim he's "more left than Bernie" is embarrassingly laughable. In UK terms, Bernie is pretty much aligned generally with the labour party pre-Starmar. So by the standards of most of Western Europe, that puts him left/center left
Let me explain this in a way someone from any country can understand. I have a job. I earn about $1500 a month. The British government takes about $100 a month from my salary. In return, any healthcare I might need is free. If I don't have a job, any healthcare I might need is still free, because all the other people who are paying a small amount of their salary to the government are helping to pay for the people who don't have a job. It works both ways and is very fair.
@Chelsea Exactly, what you're told by even the Democrats about what this will cost is a lie. Here's a full example of costs. In the UK nobody pays tax or National Insurance (NI) (NI is health and state pension) until they earn £9,500 per year ($11,885.35) once they hit above that they start paying NI at 12% until they earn above £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it drops to 2%. Once people earn over £12,500 per year ($15,638.63) you start paying Income Tax at 20% until they earn over £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it goes to 40%, then at £150,000 ($187,663.50) it goes to 45%. Employers have to pay towards all Employees National insurance at 13.8% based on that persons salary/wage once it goes above £9,500 ($11,885.35). Regardless of how high the salary is. 23 million people in the UK pay no income tax, let's for example say they earn £12,000 ($15013.08) per year that means they only pay £332.16 ($415.56) per year their employer would pay £381.98 ($477.89) per year. In total that would be £16,425,220,000 or $20,549,428,489.80 towards the NHS and state pension. If you were earning £55,000 ($68,809.95) per year you'd pay £5,011.56 ($6269.91) whilst your employer would pay £6,019.28 ($7530.66) At £160,000 ($200,174.40) you pay £7,006.56 ($8765.84) per year and the employer pays £19,784.78 ($24,752.54) At £500,000 ($625,545.00) you pay £13,466.56 ($16,847.88) per year and your employer pays £64,358.78 ($80,518.63) Employers also have to pay it for any company car, phone, expenses or payout of contract, employees don't. This all goes out before your net pay, it doesn't cost people much, maybe those fighting against it are employers who do have to pay more.
Bernie Sanders is not Far-Left, he would be considered regular left here in the UK. Edit: He’s not as far left as former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was. But Sanders is still far left enough to lose an election.
@@rytisbaranauskas6209 That would likely fail spectacularly. Source: yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/04/nhs-british-institution-brits-are-second-most-prou
Bean Hmmm...yeah, a possible scenario, the Brexit end game turned out different from what we promised, (but that’s not our fault), so...we need to get the money from somewhere...
My father had a double brain aneurism, he was in hospital for nearly a year recovering and is still going well after 20 years, FOR FREE! Bless the NHS.
My brother had severe diabetes and lost his job. In the US, the whole family would have had to sell everything they had and it would still have quickly run out. His treatments to delay blindness alone would have cost tens of thousands and he got it all free. He would have died a decade sooner if he had been in the US and my father would have ended up homeless and penniless.
It's not for free, it's the government taking your money running it through a bureaucratic system and then turning around and expecting you to be happy with the result. That is unless you are a leech on the system who makes less than 30k.
@Benji Winger The point that this system has been in place since I was born and no larger political party has put privatisation of it in their manifesto, so I am forced to continue paying more than if I was in a private system.
@@alastairp I think I've seen you in almost every comment chain on this video. If you don't mind me asking, do you live in the UK, and have you actually used the NHS?
@@anthonyl.goraczko6099 Why don't we think about it this way? A majority of people in most of Europe's legislatures is all that is needed to pass a law. In the US, on the other hand, you need a majority of the house and 60% of senators?! Also the president can veto the law, and if he does you need 66% of the entire Congress to overturn it!? Even if a majority of a people like an idea, the minority can make it null. God bless America.
Pretty much every wealthy nation in the world has socialized medical care. Is it perfect, no it isn’t. Will you get a quick knee transplant in the UK...No. Will you get generally excellent care if you have cancer...Yes. Also certainly in most of the European countries you can supplement your care with private health insurance, often paid by employers. Given that the USA spends in the region of 18% of GDP on healthcare and Uk, France, Germany spend 10-12% of GDP there is clearly something significantly wrong with the US system, given that healthcare outcomes are generally better in Europe. Surely it’s wrong that the wealthiest country in the world (total GDP, not per capita) should see the largest cause of personal bankruptcies to be healthcare expenses? This is of course before we even think about the impact of health insurance on workforce mobility.
Most of Europe doesn't have this system. The only other place in Europe with it is Gibraltar, a British territory. Europe uses a insurance model not a nationalised model. Both provide universal free at the point of the delivery health care though
As a British citizen, I love the NHS because at a British hospital your a patient. In America your a customer. I just wish it was better run and better funded but our Government are big fan of austerity. But I'd rather wait a few hours for treatment than pay thousands for it.
Both are the same. If people notice that you don't treat your customers appropriately then you go out of business.That is the best thing about Capitalism. In a socialist run program, you have no incentive, therefore you do not care about the quality of the results you put out.
@@naveygill1793 I unstand where you are coming from. I will put in another way. witch would like in debt bunket and death. or life and no debt. I have read and seen storys like a million of the in us but people unable to pay, just left to die. the same cases in the uk, you may get the odd 1 or 2 if you are unluckly. I think we had 2 about 5 years ago and that made head line news. but it is so common in the US. it like getting run over. you get a choose death and deth or just death.
@@antonywagner8079 I'm not sure where you got that information from, but hospitals in United States have to make every effort in saving a patient's life regardless of weather that person can pay or not at that given point of emergency. The collection process of the bill happens after a treatment has been performed and not before contrary to a lot of Asian countries. Also there are a lot of charitable programs that can waive off a substantial amount off your bill. Lastly, private healthcare was not even that expensive before the Government intervened in 2014 and required all citizens to possess insurance. There is a direct correlation in medical costs going up after Obamacare was implemented, because now Hospitals can charge whatever they feel like since they know Obamacare will pay for it regardless. That was not the case before. Government involvement screws up everything.
Great point! I had a consult with an ENT. They billed me $485.00 to have a 10 min discussion on my options for fixing my deviated septum. My insurance paid the $200 They want me to pay $285 I told them to stick it They charge whatever they can in the USA. surprise bills etc are the norm They will never give you a straight answer on what a procedure will cost btw It’s a crooked system What will happen to all of the jobs in this crooked system I wonder under Bernie
@@naveygill1793 no. Hospitals are not the same. Hospitals in America are pretty much local monopolies. There's usually no more then 2 hospitals in any given area. They can charge whatever they want and service be poor. Where else is the locals going to go?
With the virus outbreak I as an uninsured American am thinking should I go to the hospital or just try to deal with it myself since going to hospital might bankrupt me.
@@victorsilva-oz7rm Apparently in the US, coronavirus might bankrupt you if you have no insurance. Just an IV drip will cost you 100$, that's might not include alcohol swap when they put the needle prior to the IV drip. The needles might also be charged separately. Currently, COVID-19 is dealt with by treating the symptoms. Feverish and dehydration means several 'IV therapy'. Just imagine a week in isolation ward (more expensive than a normal ward) with all the treatment of several symptoms.
John L. And another side of the Story are people whom can not afford to stay home in self-quarantine, and infects others. Understandsbly people go to work when they don’t have much
I live in the UK, rarely use the NHS but love that it's there if I need it at almost no cost aside from general taxation. It's one of the best things about this country. Everyone has the equal rights to access quality healthcare and it's good to know that here at least, they do.
Exactly americans think if the doctors free they'll take advantage and keep on going which is not true. I haven't been to the doctors in years because gratefully I haven't needed to. But yes knowing it's there gives an ease of mind
@@saqibzaman1476 I don't even bother engaging with Americans on this subject. They have been so brainwashed by the politicians that they think it's some socialist game whereby the government decides who lives and dies. This is a perfect example of voting against your own interests and costing many times more for worse outcomes. Reducing live expectancy, increased deaths in childbirth, medical bankruptcy etc.
@@amenhotepthethird209 very true the american media and government has effectively brainwashed all the public into thinking government programmes are communist or something gand their freedoms will be taking away when it actual fact is more freedom u dont need to worry about health care etc
@@saqibzaman1476 I can't imagine what it feels like having to worry about getting sick. Not being able to afford to to to the doctors. Seemingly, many Americans don't agree that is a basic human right. Even Cuba has a national health system. It's a shame.
@@amenhotepthethird209 it's the same with people who support the NHS. It is far from the best system in the world and the alternative is not the system in America.
I could never imagine getting a bill when leaving the hospital. Why do America hate this idea?
Exactly it's stupid but Americans knows best
It's frightening, isn't it? As if being sick and in hospital isn't awful enough, extra stress is piled on top of you.
@@ashlyr4385 fear of socialism even though the UK is far from socialist except really for the NHS? Pretty much everything else I can think of has been privatised. Come on American citizens wake up its the best thing since sliced bread
Americans are afraid that they’re taxes will go up and they’ll be limited by choice. Change is scary and this would be a huge change. Also the powers that be have everything to gain by keeping the system here status quo so they highlight and regurgitate all the shortcomings of medical care in the UK, Canada, France etc. to further instill fear in the American populace. What’s really messed up is how we call this a free market system. It’s not free market. I can’t price compare procedures from one hospital to another, Health Insurance companies can’t compete with each other across state lines thus lowering premiums. We also can’t legally (although this is more frowned upon than enforced) purchase drugs from other countries. Why? Because the government says we can’t. If Socialism is equated with authoritarianism then how’s that for the latter?
Joshius from what I understand, they think they'll be paying a huge amount for other people through taxes. They don't seem to understand that we don't pay ridiculous amounts of taxes for this in countries like the UK
The NHS is the UK's one true religion we all believe in.
Krp Krp I think it’s the only thing that will make Brits riot if they try to take it from us that’s why they do a lot of under handed manovere!!
Krp Krp, absolutely, ever since the NHS was founded back in 1948, back in the Labour Government of Clement Atlee !
ThorniMation indeed. But don’t think it was down to labour alone. The Bevin nhs was not meant to last. It was supposed to get the country fit and well and then be closed to return to the old system. However and thankfully it continued in perpetuity. Inspire of all parties using it as a political hot topic to the constant detriment of the NHS itself
Yep across all political spectrums
Agreed
As a British citizen, I'm very proud of the NHS. That's why whenever I hear a politician say they want to privatise the NHS I vote for whoever is running against them. Keep your slimy private hands off the NHS! Especially if they from the US we all know what they are like.
Most NHS services have always been provided by private contractors. GPs. If a private company can provide a high quality service for less money why do you think we should keep paying more and getting less?
NHS is kind of a disaster. The quality of care is pretty terrible. Definitely one of the worst in Europe.
DK1 yet nhs buys drugs developed by US companies . If you love the NHS then pay the same prices that US citizens pay for their drugs
TK UA actually they buy generics of drugs developed in the US. US spends all the money developing new drugs and then other countries piggyback off of that.
@@ogc9649 The US doesn't produce any drugs, go search it, there hasn't been a single drug made in the US since the last factory closed in the early 00's. The UK is actually a massive drugs researcher and exporter, it's one of the biggest parts of the UK's economy... We actually invent and sell drugs to the US.
I work at a theatre and an American shocked me when she said people with epilepsy in the U.S wear bracelets saying "DONT call an ambulance" as they can't afford the bills. I was shocked that supposedly "the greatest country in the world" doesn't care for the health of it's people. Furthermore I have only needed hospitalisation ONCE and that was to have a tooth out... I didn't have to pay... never ONCE in 35 years have I spent a second resenting that my tax is spent on free healthcare. Never!
You have to pay for dental treatment in the U.K, it’s about 50% subsidised by the NHS.
There is a video made by an American living in the UK who has epilepsy.
He described having the NHS as having a good friend when in need.
@@anthonyh4745 Not everyone pays for dental care in the UK
@@anthonyh4745 Just to add on to another comment replying to yours. Typically only adults pay a fee of dental, or eye checkups. Otherwise for children, it is free and covered fully by the NHS (anyone under the age of 19). If it is a serious issue involving the eyes or teeth that will have you undergo an operation in a hospital, it will be covered by the NHS.
Stuff for glasses such as lens thinning and anti-glare are add-ons to be paid for but are discounted iirc? Someone will have to correct me on that.
I am disabled and always injuring myself and the last time I seriously injured my body I never went to hospital because of the fares to hospital and so I didn’t get treated because I didn’t have enough money to get to hospital not because of the treatment
“Socialised medicine” because everyone pays for it? So, is it a “socialised police service” or do you pay every time you dial 911? How about when your house catches fire? Is that a pay per use service?
I think it's funny how Americans always want to apply their own loaded terminology and binary political standards to other countries whose political discourse and social awareness are so much more sophisticated and developed. It's like listening to a ten year old try to explain 'ethics' to a moral philosopher.
@@anserbauer309 .
I think it's because a large percentage of US citizens have absolutely no idea how things are so different in most other countries.
America is virtually the only country in the world where workers have no legal entitlement to paid annual leave, yet few appear to realise what they are missing.
They claim universal healthcare would mean raising taxes but again don't realise, they are already paying more for far less.
Far too many Americans cannot differentiate between socialism and communism. As you point out, they already have socialised police, fire department, also education from kindergarten through high school. And what is the military, if not socialised defence ? So why not healthcare ? The answer is money. Too many big corporations are making billions from the system in its current format, and they are not going to give up without a big fight. So they talk down socialism as if it's evil like communism, when the reality is it's looking after your fellow American. What could be more patriotic than that ?
grahvis Most don’t even have retirement plans and no pensions
The ignorance is mind boggling!
I’d rather wait a few hours in U.K. rather than being bankrupt
If it was gonna make you bankrupt, you'd probably be waiting more than a few hours as U.S. system rations by wallet-size rather than need.
@@wulfhere83 Ah, but I bet you had to wait until all your teeth had fallen out, before you got that appointment though, right cos of all the waiting lists /s
@@ChrispyNut Uh no? I can call my dentist and be seen the next day (Monday-Friday) or emergency appointments the same day (Monday-Sunday)
@@natalielueders6502 I don't know whether you're replying to my first or second response. If first..... Big deal, without knowing how much you pay that's meaningless. If the second, "/s" = "sarcasm".
yikes it's not a few hours buddy. It seems every other week the NHS leaves people in medical beds in hallways for weeks to months or until they die. I'm not sure how this video is positive on the NHS. If you wanna know how bad the NHS is just google "NHS in crisis" those articles come out every 3 and a half weeks in the UK
I’m a U.K. citizen and I’d never heard of the term “socialised medicine” until today. Don’t knock the NHS, we’re all generally happy with it.
If it's payed for by everyone and available to everyone then it is socialised, just like the police, fire department, military, schools, libraries, etc. All socialised.
Rob Fraser and what’s the issue with that though... Americans use this phrase like socialised medicine is a *bad* thing. But having education, emergency services etc available to everyone isn’t really bad is it? How can equal access be bad? What we’re seeing in America is those who can not afford health care are being unfairly disadvantaged and are in a much much worse position. This would never happen in the UK because *everybody* has access to healthcare, regardless of their socioeconomic background.
@@jess4709 There is no issue with it. Conservative Americans just don't like socialism because they are told to by the rich US aristocracy. In the early 1900's socialist and communist movements spread around the world as working class people decided to seize power from the ultra rich. In the US they at first criminalised socialists as "communist sympathisers" until that was deemed unconstitutional and then they tried to limit exposure to socialism by blacklisting anyone on TV or radio who spoke about it.
Eventually they discovered that you could just brainwash the masses by convincing them that socialism was created by Satan or that being socialist means living like the North Koreans do. The billionaires that pull the strings will do anything to protect their obscene profits, much of which they get from charging sick people.
Rob Fraser ... we’re not socialist? We have a conservative government that still supports the NHS (I say ‘support’ despite it being underfunded)
@@jess4709 We are capitalist socialist, we were fully socialist after world war 2 when everything got nationalised under labour but the Tories have gradually privatised everything and those privatised industries have moved abroad. British Leyland Motorcars, British Rail, British Steel, British Aerospace, British Petroleum, etc, all got sold off and eventually moved elsewhere. That's what happens when you sell something, the new owner can switch it off and take it with them.
The NHS isn't Socialist, it's just common sense.
In China having an authoritarian state is common sense for those citizens.
@@alastairp Ah yes, I see what you think you did there.
@@paulsweeney70 ??? Just because the overton window in a given country contains a given idea doesn't mean it's good.
@@alastairp so no one dying because they can't afford the healthcare isn't a good thing?!
@@LongdownConker So no people dying because of worse quality care and waits isn't a good thing?!
Bernie Sanders is a godsend for Americans and they don't even realise it. The US is missing out and it's sad.
I'm from the UK and agree with free healthcare. But the issue is in the US Bernie's plan is too fast and too destructive. Yes, you should move towards a system that provides cheap/free healthcare however you need to also take care of those who work in the private insurance industry that would get shut down. Your countries system has been the same for so long that it will take a while to introduce such a system hence Andrew Yang's plan should have been taken more seriously.
@@meganwallace5556 I know, I just wish the Democrats had Bernie instead of Biden.
Nbernje sounds nice but he can't get his policies to add up and that's a major issue like Blair labour that can leave a country bankrupt
No he isn't.
@@Jemalacane0 such an astute argument. Well done sir. You win.
"longer to see GP's" - Lol I can call my GP at 8am tomorrow and see them same day. I had a bad kidney infection last year and needed to see someone asap on a weekend. I called 111 and went to an out of hours GP surgery few hours later and got the free medication I needed to feel better within 48 hours.
Depends were you are though. In some areas, theres one practice for multiple areas with high driving times. And in places like London, ive felt that it can take a while. Though overall I do prefer our system
Average wait to see a doctor in the US is 24 days. in the uk it's 15 days. The waiting list in the uk is a myth it's comparable with the US or better in most cases the only part of the american health system that is better is at the sharp end of the system with state of the art devices and treatments. Treatments and devises most Americans can't actually afford. In order for this to happen they lower the levels of care at the very bottom the idea in the US of preventative care is none existent. You make more money in treatment than you do insuring people don't get sick. In the Uk the NHS save money preventing illness so that is the approach they take. Mental health care in the US is a joke as well.
@@charlesbentley6033 There's NHS at Hand in London that deliveries services digitally with clinics around London if you need to see someone face to face.
My 'ordinary' GP practice in West London now does most doctors calls by phone/ video - ring in the morning and get a callback later that morning ... Digital prescriptions mean your prescriptions can be fulfilled at a pharmacy anywhere in the country.
Americans are being deceived by misleading emotive language - on the UK you have the right to free medical treatment and that can be delivered through a public or private provider.
I've never waited more than a day for a doctor. A good. For specialised issues I've had to wait a week or two but it was none urgent.
Same here. Called regarding my son this morning at 9, appointment at 11.40. Can't argue with that
i live in UK - got diagnosed with breast cancer in August 2020. Had operation within 2 weeks of diagnosis, radiotherapy in the September and back at work beginning of November. Brilliant service, no long waiting times. Caring follow-up. NHS is the best. Anyone who knocks it is ignorant of the facts or lying.
When it's easier to get a gun in the US then proper healthcare 😂
Tells you all you need to know doesn't it?
@@paulg8730 Murica be like:
"but... muh rights, her emails!"
What? My healthcare cost less than a gun, i get top quality healthcare while spending less than you do on healthcare 😂
@Kish shiv i make $50k a year and spend 0 on healthcare because i have free insurance
@Kish shiv most peoples jobs come with insurance that covers everything
In the uk even the right would brand people as insane to suggest privatising the healthcare system
tf do you mean when they voted for the ppl that want to do exactly that!!!!! the right are literally trying to do that
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 They are literally not
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 in the conservative manifesto they are committed to put more money in so who is privatising it ?
@Crom so by your logic state schools are privatised as they buy pencils from a private company?
The far right is just rich bigots
"Far Left Bernie Sanders" Literally everywhere else in the western world this guy would be considered centrist
Would you have to be a communist to be “far left?”
@@adventurem8887 That would be authoritarian-left. The authoritarian/libertarian axis is something that keeps being completely ignored soooo damn often which is why the label of communist for Bernie (and a decent percentage of lefties (though there's a disturbingly high percentage of authoritarian-lefties.... the ones who're all for censorship of views they don't like etc)) is so inaccurate as he's clearly not authoritarian.
*_"Far left Bernie Sanders"_*
Europe: Seriously??
Americans don't care what europeans think, and for good reason. Europes historical track record is abysmal. The United States is the only country that never defaulted on its debt in the 20th century. Even the UK defaulted in its debt in 1932, although they try to deny it by blaming it on Germany or downplay it by stretching the definition of solvency.
Bernie is far left for US because they have moved far far far to the right.
@@coletrain5667 haha typical ameritard, all you care about is money isnt it? no wonder bernie is "far left" for you :)
Really
@@coletrain5667 Really that is your point??? Tell, define what is a countries debt, especially now with both countries running fiat currencies....
As a conservative I think the NHS is the greatest thing to ever happen to this country. Healthcare is a right not a privilege and I will fight to defend healthcare for all people in the UK.
As long as you’re not dying or really sick then no
Thank God we don't have free health care... 4 months wait for a 10 minute consultation with a doctor 😂. The NHS is the favourite tool of Brits to shame other countries and the best boasting tool... Lmao they comment on American and other rich countries health care systems. The NHS seems like a policy for the poor people, of the poor country, financed by poor citizens. 😂
Yep, look up, by NHS rules a doctor isn't allowed to meet his/her patients for more than 10 minutes. Every appointment with a doctor takes a minimum of 13 weeks. It's all a scam. Oh, one more thing, if you have a diabetic l, blood pressure and heart problems. You are allowed to treat only one problem at a time. For the other two you'll have to wait again for 13 x 2 weeks.
The uk has a system that goes
1. If you have a problem see your Pharmacist or call 111 for advice.
2. If the problem persists or you have been advised to by the 111 operator or pharmacist, see your GP.
3. If you have been referred by the GP to a specialist you will be referred to a specialist at a NHS hospital or a specialist GP.
1.1. If you have a problem that is immediate or life threatening call 999
2.1 Your problem is rated depending on how serious it is and how much of a threat to your life that problem is, this will determine your wait for the ambulance.
2.2 Alternatively, if on 111 they advise you to go to hospital, you will make your way to the hospital where they will already have your details at check in, speeding up your waiting time.
1.2. If you have had an accident and know it is serious but not life threatening, you can check your self in at A & E (Emergency Room for Americans) and they will treat your serious injury.
If anything is inaccurate please feel free to correct me but this is from my known knowledge so don’t hate 😂
One of the problems of course is that many people bypass all that and go straight to A&E, so the waiting room is the clogged up with people who really don't need to be there.
@@Gordanovich02 They should actually start fining people
@@Gordanovich02 Usually on a Friday or Saturday night. I can't think why. :¬P
At Uni a flat mate called an ambulance because she had tonsillitis 🤣😅 she was politely told to FOff😅
@@andrew30m 😂😂😂😂
If I’m correct, in the Uk, if you are 18+, you pay about $10 for *any* prescription, no matter if the raw cost of the drug is £1 or £100, it’s amazing for people with chronic expensive medical problems
Couple of small corrections: prescriptions are free in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. In England, they are about £10 per item, however if you need regular prescriptions you can pay a flat fee (£30 for 3 months or £110 for an entire year) which will cover the cost of all prescriptions during that period.
You pay nothing if it’s a life-saving drug. Like insulin. Inhalers. Etc
Yes. Only for those in work earning a certain ammount have to pay.
But if you are on different meds, picking up your monthly perscription for 5 different meds...5 lots (blood pressure meds, anti-depresents, diabeties meds, epilepsy meds, anti-biotic, pain killers, sleepers 🤤😂 opiods, creams, vitamins and everyrhing you can think of. of 30 days medication....it is still £10. One item or 10. Still a flat rate of £10.
But most people will go because of a painful water infection that won't shift for example. Do your samples, get your meds amd away you go.
Be riots (forever) if they tried to sell it off.
I’ve had three children all in the nhs including one that was Caesarean section birth. Cost zero. Excellent service and staffing. Every car crash or illness is covered for everyone. Regardless of how your career of general circumstances are. Everyone on the globe should have a similar system.
Add a Tax to the following specifically for healthcare:
1-Fast food
2-sodas , junk food and candies
3-tobacco
4-alcohol
Take that revenue and use it to expand Medicare and Medicaid to cover those that are not currently covered and to subsidize the rest’s health insurance premiums
They already have, pasty tax, sugar tax, 80% tax on tobacco, and minimum price alcohol in Scotland 😉
Dont you dare touch candies!
tax the billionaires and stop funding the military cus we don't need it
Taxing alcohol and tobacco is recessive and worsens inequality.
Middle income / wealth save large proportion of there income
Lower income spend all there income
If both consumed tobacco and alcohol at the same rate the lower income person would be paying a larger proportion of their income in tax
On top of this, due to systemic social issues lower income on average consume more tobacco and alcohol
@Natnael Guliano Yes but goods like tobacco have inelastic demand so large increases in tax result in small reductions in consumption, thus the tax is less effective for discouraging behaviour and very effective at generating revenue (from the poor).
The current and past neoliberal tory and new labour governments uses this recessive tax income from tobacco tax and VAT to enable them to cut taxes on elites and the upper middle class.
The point of public healthcare is we pay for it collectively, not burden those with disease (addiction) disproportionately.
A more equitable way to discourage smoking or the harm of smoking would be to mandate decreasing the tobacco content in cigeretes, aggressively subsidise less harmful alternatives like vaping and nictotine patches, perhaps capping the ammount of tobacco an individual can buy with some sort of rationing system, or at least entrenching the idea that all revenue from taxes on demerit goods should go back to the communities that are burdened by the taxes and into subsidising alternatives.
The fact that Bernie Sanders is considered ‘far-left’ is depressing
In Britain,he’d be centre-left.
@@MarineAqua45 he'd be right of centre
@@Name-iq8te There is nothing right about his views and opinions.
Joe Biden is considered a conservative in some developed countries
@@shrek19yearsago78 No he isnt.
The people calling it socialism don't realise that we also have the option to pay for private healthcare too. I also pay for private healthcare as it's quicker to be seen.
As an American Expat living in London, I am PROUD of the NHS! I can't even imagine going back to the US system. When I needed to have a heart valve repaired, still living in California, even with very good insurance. I still paid $4000 for the procedure. Here it would have all just been done and thats that. My medications are cheap for what I need. And unlike some insurance in the States, I don't need to add additional prescription drug coverage or worry if the drug I need will be covered.
I'm just going to point out that NHS Scotland is controlled by the Scottish Parliament, not the UK Parliament and because of this, prescription drugs are free in Scotland.
Prescriptions are free in Wales too
Also why the standards in scotlands hospital are abysmal
Jordan Cunningham actually statistics show that our waiting times are shorter than England :)
Jordan Cunningham www.businessforscotland.com/scotlands-nhs-outperforms-the-rest-of-the-uk-heres-why/ and give this article a read. It shows how stone Scottish NHS is actually the best performing in the uk!
Barnet formula...the English pay for free prescriptions for the Scot's!
The NHS is actually amazing. Both sides of the political spectrum agree it's great for our country.
But which side cuts provision for the health service, THE CONSERVATIVES, helped by the idiots that vote for them
Except one (Tories) has waged a war on the "publicness" of it for decades, whilst the another (Labour) is more limp-wristed in it's attempts. The other's (we don't have a firm duopoly) vary.
I'm so proud to be English and so proud to have the NHS, especially in these times. I cannot imagine how it must feel to actually worry about how you are going to PAY for medical care or treatment, the idea is inconceivable to me.
You know it was a Welshman who created the NHS!?
@@WalesTheTrueBritons Yes, Aneurin Bevan the Labour Politician. But I am English and England has the NHS also, therefore I am proud to live in the country and have access to that. It wasn't shade to any of the other countries in the Union at all.
@@Tom-dg5zp All countries have the NHS, England NHS, Northern Ireland NHS, Scotland NHS, and Wales NHS. We shouldn't see ourselves as English,Welsh,Northern Irish or Scottish but as British, working together to make United Kingdom a better Union.
Fire Hazzard I know. See previous response to first commenter. I don’t think picking apart for an in the moment lexical choice makes for a stronger union though, personally.
@@firehazzard8497 I'd rather not. I'm sick of tory majorities and English dictated governments. Scottish Independence.
The US has socialised education, socialised army, socialised navy, socialised airforce, socialised police, socialised fire service so what’s the problem with socialised health care
Our education isn't socialized, or else I wouldn't have to pay $15,000 for instate tuition.
@@procrastinatingotaku I was referring to the US school system where it is provided free by the government but if you want to pay to go private you can. That is like the UKs health service
ONE BIG PROBLEM REPUBLICANS.
My friend had an asthma attack even though he hadn’t ever had shown signs of asthma before and went to the hospital and didn’t have to pay a penny but if it were America his family would probably lost a lot of money
BasscrackYT you pay 600 dollars just for an inhalor in the US
glow_ cute think an ambulance trip is like 2-5 gs in America, depending where you live. Lots of people drive or get ubers instead. That's why the mortality rate of uber passengers is much higher in America than anywhere else in the world
@@StoutProper I get 2 asthma inhalers for the equivalent of $10 in the UK lol
TheHesK9 yup well that's healthcare in the USA for you
death is the final journey for us all, even your friend could have greeted death at the door and only death is our liberator.
The NHS is also the largest employer in the entirety of Europe and I think 5th im the world!
Well it's looking after 66 million people. You can't expect it to be a small workforce and still be effective. 1.3 million doesn't seem outrageous.
And it costs 20% of our taxes to wait for slots as there is no system to prioritise people who paid more.
@@alastairp it's not 20% and why should people who pay more get preference? The more serious a threat the quicker you are seen. It's supposed to be a beneficial service for ALL
@@lukem5787 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending_in_the_United_Kingdom
18.8% of tax
I like to boop quite rightly too. Waiting times are triaged according to who needs it the most and that’s the right way to do it.
About 3 years ago I was admitted to hospital with kidney stones and a severe gall bladder infection which required surgery. Didn’t cost me a penny, and at no point was I ever worried about bills or being made homeless due to medical costs. Thank you NHS
If we didn't have the NHS I'd have lost my parents years ago, I myself could also have died with a number health condition's through out my life.
The same goes for me
15 years ago, I had chemo followed by a stem cell transplant. I was diagnosed by the NHS and treated start to finish. I had the best care available and came through clean as a whistle. Because I’d paid into the system over the years, I claimed it back by living. Didn’t have to sell my house, didn’t have to worry about my treatment. What’s not to like? Three years of treatment sorted as you go...
The NHS is the thing the Welsh are most proud of
And it was the creation of a great Welshman. A colossus. And i say that as an Englishman. Thank you Aneurin Bevan. You took on and defeated the same sort of people who oppose socialised medicine in America today. It was an idea born in Wales and he saw it and realised it could liberate ordinary people from fear. We owe this giant of a man a debt that can never be re-paid. The present crisis has reminded people how special it is and we will never let it go.
Paul G it’s amazing how chilled the welsh are about the union compared to Scotland. They see the benefits are are pretty quiet about it. Compare that to Scotland. Which I just don’t get, on any metric the Scottish people would be worse off on there own. Yet the same could be said about Britain and the EU yet we still left. Maybe we just like to shoot ourself in the foot allot.
America has too much money in pharmaceuticals to ever go public. They wouldn’t be able to rip off their patients anymore. Sad stuff
You forgot to mention how pharmacists take a big roll in primary care too in the UK
Really? Maybe I have been unlucky, but each time I have tried to speak to a pharmacist about an issue, all her advice is "go and see your doctor". Complete waste of time!
@@bobbailey8246 because diagnosing a patient isn't their expertise. If they do recommend something incorrectly, they can get sued. Their job includes such things as making sure the elderly receive their drugs on time, signing off prescriptions, organising this with technicians, changing the concentration of the drug for infants etc. They're still very important within the NHS. I would like Nurses, Radiographers, Physician associates, physiotherapists to get more recognition.
Bob Bailey that pharmacist should be able to provide basic medical knowledge(not diagnosis). If the pharmacist thought that there was no treatment available otc then they would’ve recommend you go to your GP
i'm british and we have the same idea as americans - we have an insurance system, everyone pays into the insurance fund and that money pays for the health care of those who get sick.
What we don't have though is people making profit from it.
I never understand americans who say they don't want their money to go to pay for other people- that's what an insurance system is. the people whose houses don't burn down are the ones who pay when someone else's house does burn down
The problem in the US is administrators. Eliminate unnecessary office jobs, which are most, you'll see a sharp decrease.
And all the bureaucracy insurances bring to the table.
@@Pedro-tm6ue Insurance accounts for about 3-4 cents for every healthcare dollar spent. It's like saying, "this elephant is way too big for this room, chop his trunk off." Insurance profits seem like a lot, but they're not, in the grand scheme of things. Even if insurance was gone, administrative costs will remain. Things will need to be coordinated and processed. it's unavoidable and won't even put a dent in overall consumer costs. The bulk of consumer costs is because of hospitals, doctors, healthcare facilities, pharmaceutical companies, and costs of procedures.
That’s such an issue here in the NHS too, we are an incredibly inefficient organisation which can be seen by looking around our hospitals BUT it works
Private health care in the US spends 700 dollars per person per year in administration compared to medicates 132 dollars per person per year
🤣🤣🤣 not one us citizen defending there "healthcare" that they have.
Kudos to the nhs and all other country's similer organisations.
Alex Evans take a look at some of the replies fella they’re comical, saying how if you earn 38 grand you get taxed 40% on all of it and that 🤣 shows how uneducated people can be
@@Bruss390 It wouldn't be such a glaring error if they didn't have a marginal tax rate system themselves. But they do. I assumed theirs was different because they can't understand ours. But no, it's the same. Different numbers same calculation.
At 27 years old, so far in my lifetime I've broken multiple bones (including needing metal reconstruction in my arm), had multiple rounds of antibiotics to fight infections and been seen by a doctor whenever I've felt ill. I've had an ambulance called to take me to A&E three times and so far the most I've paid up front has been £9 for the tablets I needed for a chest infection. I've paid taxes out of my wages since I was 18 and believe the NHS is the best thing to exist. I have friends in other countries and the amount they have to pay for the same service is insane.
I can not imagine life without the NHS. Best asset the UK has.
Let’s hope now Boris being in an NHS hospital with corona makes him/his government more appreciative of it, what it does and the need to preserve it. It’s a truly special service.
Guess not ey? Shocker
Well they increased spending year on year aint they ? Ask labour what they do ? As they were the first to start private sec contracts in the 90s
I absolutely love the NHS, it’s an amazing thing which is underappreciated.
As a guy from the UK it a no brainer. I don't think that there's anyone in the UK that thinks the NHS is a bad idea. I had a burst appendicitis, not one minute did i think can i afford to pay for the treatment. Nobody feels bad that you are taxed from your earnings. We all one day will fall sick, or know of a love one that is sick. It's not perfect but we are glad we have it.
“No thank you, I don’t want your communism. My family and I are quite happy to die an unpleasant death from the 1770s so we can be free”. Said the American who doesn’t understand Socialism, let alone Communism. 3/4 Americans don’t know who they fought in WW2. Many can’t translate what WW2 is, either.
They probably believe that WW2 is a reference to the insane rhetoric that they're spouting about the US election.
WW2 = We Won Twice
No one chooses to get sick or be in an accident. It can happen to anyone. The NHS means you can get the help you need no matter what your circumstances are. We all have care when what we don't expect happens. We also have the option for private insurance if people have the money they have that option. I have lived in the states and in Europe and experienced health care all over, despite waiting times it feels a lot better living in the uk, the NHS is amazing, and I would not choose live in a country without health care for all.
For context if you earn £24,000 here in the UK for the year, roughly 4k of that will be tax and national insurance. The contribution pays for policing, the fire service, and all your health-care needs plus other public services.
I’m in the U.K. and have to tell the truth now. Our health care system has collapsed. I’m considering going private after 2 family members , one of whom is a child , is being refused appointments. They now wait until you are forced into accident and emergency. It used to be structured and the pride of the nation. It is now a complete disaster in tatters. I don’t know if we are being driven to this on purpose.
Yes it's part of the plan to privatise it and sell it to the US!!!
British people come out into the streets every Thursday as 8 in the evening to clap and celebrate the NHS. It makes me proud to be British 🇬🇧
My country Malaysia has better healthcare than the US. I always thought the US has great healthcare. I was wrong.
USA has a really great healthcare... But just for the richest
@@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchez 😂😂😂
Yeah and sadly some of Malaysian didn't appreciate it.
@@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchez that alone makes it not great
The NHS is one of the things I'm most proud of as a British person. But as a 16 year old I got no say in the last election, and will now have no say in how this vital system changes in the next 3 or 4 years until the next election. They've done wonderful work during the pandemic so far.
Being from the UK I found it so werid that other countries government don’t pay for basic health care - Atleast to a degree that it doesn’t bankrupt you to heal yourself. To me it’s been ingrained that gov - tht stature of collective development that this is a must - aswell as things like housing and military. I would always exact someone form of gov intervention on basics rather than running it like a business.
we have Medicare Medicaid same thing it pays for medical insurance for poor people everyone else can afford health insurance roughly $700 £562.02 per year in expensive cheaper than your NHS TAX £1800 so id rather pay my insurance fee
Covfefe the UK charges tax based upon income, there isn’t a flat fee, plus that health insurance will only cover you to a certain extent, cancer treatment in the UK is covered by the NHS however in America it’s about $150,000 and even if your insurance does cover it your premium will skyrocket
This is surprisingly similar to Costa Rica's healthcare system, but ours was founded 7 years before. We also have, besides the big hospitals, smaller clinics that do first aid and prevention work.
@Bessie Belle its same everywhere in the world.
USA: Wait, you guys are getting healthcare?
Sanders = "far left" ....lol, in Europe he's classed as a conservative/centrist!
He would just be considered left or center left by European standards. Definitely not conservative or Centrist. If that were the case then Joe Biden would be Mussolini and All European countries would be marxist-leninist. What kind of shrooms are you consuming.
I am no socialist - I regard myself as centre ground here in the UK - but I totally believe that my fellow human beings get the healthcare they need, when they need it. Nobody asks to be ill or disabled!
I have a story to share. I came to the UK as an international student and I have been living here since sep 2021. Recently, I have been on hike in the Scottish Countryside and knocked off my k-9 tooth by stumbling on a rock. I was bleeding on the top of the summit and it was a sunday. I went there with a hiking society group and two of their leaders were with me and called the NHS, I was bleeding from my gum and in a lot of pain. they asked me lots of questions but they made sure I was treated and they arranged me an emergency dental appointment in a nearest hospital and when I went there I was not asked for any documents, papers or insurance. I was straight up treated and before going in when the receptionist told me that I won't be charged a single penny because I am younger than 26, I was just grateful. I was starving and probably felt a lil bit dizzy from fatigue and hunger. They offered me glucose water and helped me to drink.💙
I feel like Australia’s healthcare system is really similar to the United Kingdom’s, I’m pretty sure with Medicare we all pay taxes that go towards it. I’m pretty sure it’s public to everyone that needs it except the people with a substantial amount of money.
Is it true that Australians get a spreadsheets from the government to specify where their money went towards? imo this would make a lot more people feel like theyre not getting scammed and in turn be more willing to pay the taxes if they can just see what they're paying for.
Here in Holland I pay 153 euros per month for full healthcare, someone on low pay, or on social security, is paid back 107 euros per month, so their total healthcare bill comes to 46 euros per month. this covers everything from doctors visits, prescriptions, hospital stays, surgery.... America can only dream of such a system. It works here because EVERYONE pays insurance (except under 18 yrs old), and we know that although we may only use the medical services rarely, one day we may rely on it, so the collective healthcare plan helps us. We simply don't even think about healthcare costs, we're left to worry about more important things like buying a beer.
Britain doesn't get an inferior Healthcare system, quite the opposite. British people in general are very grateful for the NHS and loved it. We just don't pay big business at profit for doing it.
AND ... the NHS itself is a reasearch facilty!
In the UK we don’t mind paying tax for the NHS and other social programs. It may not be perfect...but it works well enough for us from cradle to grave.
Our taxes also pay for the military. Would an American call that socialist as well???
American politicians need to re-educate themselves on the definitions of socialism and liberalism.
Here’s an idea, why not make lobbying illegal. The US could save a sh1t load of money.
I smashed my elbow, got medical help straight away. I needed an opeation and physiotherapy afterwards. I paid ZERO. God bless the NHS.
I’m a British Conservative, I’m incredibly proud and grateful for all the NHS does and I’m a massive supporter and defender of universal healthcare.
All western European states have universal healthcare.
Only uk Ireland have this nhs idea.
No one else on continental Europe has ever wanted to copy it.
They all have demonstrably better healthcare systems than we do in the uk.
Partly,one suspects,because they view healthcare as something to do with health not as some creepy national religion to be worshipped.
Medication at pharmacy if prescription is around £7, however a lot of people get their medication for free like me. I checked and if I paid for medication in US without insurance I would have to spend about $200+ on my medication and that is a rough estimate.
NHS is the single best thing about the UK...
The UK has a healthcare system...
The USA has a healthcare industry...
The NHS is one of our proudest achievements
Torran Irwin NW5 surely it is.
Torran Irwin NW5 Pity that successive tory and neoliberal governments have been quietly gutting it whilst the adoring British public pretend it isn’t happening and continue to vote for more austerity for the many.
All government ministers should be forced to use publicly-owned schools and healthcare providers. Then we might see some proper investment.
@@AtheistEve I'm sure they'll have realised how important support for the NHS really is once the pandemic blows over. Took a huge chunk off their money simply because they wouldn't invest properly in it before hand and I doubt they'll let a mistake like that happen again if they can help it.
Logan R I doubt it. People continue to vote against their best interests every time.
@@OnlyGrafting the tories always want to make cuts. Its in their DNA
American politics:
1% actually doing anything
99% circlejerking on whether something is "socialism" or "capitalism"
I don't think many of these Americans actually understand the differences between these economic systems. They're just taught "capitalism good, socialism bad".
“I will never forgive the politicians!”
You're right. Many of us here are ignorant and propagandized by corporate media.
The problem is that Americans have been conditioned to think that socialism is the same as soviet communism, that politics is a simple black and white choice with no shades of grey in between. That's why the rest of the world laughs when Bernie Sanders is described as "far left"!
@@Sarge084 then how come almost every attempt at socialism has failed? And don't tell me Europe is socialist, they have some of the best business and free market environments on Earth.
The USA has the biggest defence budget in the world, all American's contribute to that via their taxes, so Uncle Sam has a socialised defence budget. Go figure.
The president himself is paid via taxes. Meaning the leader is socialised
Don't get me started on their commie roads. Highways are a soviet plot I tell you.
The US does have the largest defense budget, and it helps other countries more than our own. Imagine the day we stop having military bases abroad and other countries have to start footing the bill for their own protection. We are the developed country that relies the least amount on international trade. I am one for our country to stop defending other countries and let them take over and see how it turns out. And we could fund our healthcare with that money. But oh wait, I forget we already spend more on Medicare and Medicaid than our defense budget. And those are for the elderly and the poor. Maybe it is more than just taking away military spending.
@@NAUM1 the reason your healthcare costs so much more is the fact that you allow hospitals, doctors, and big pharma to set their own prices. One of the advantages of universal healthcare is that your country has the ability to negotiate down those prices on your behalf.
When you are sick your ability to drive the price of treatment is effectively zero. But the government has a pretty effective bargaining chip. Us. The entire population of your country. Either you give us treatment at a price that we believe is fair, or you lose access to the entire population. Considering that in my country I pay less than half for my healthcare than you do, and we experience far better outcomes, it seems to be working.
@@NAUM1 The US didn't help anyone by FUBARing Iraq.
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The NHS is one of the few things that make me proud to be British. Everybody working at the NHS are the real living superheroes of today.
BB Entertainment Indeed 👍
We're british and proud
@@hobmoor2042 yeah I agree, fed up with the slightest thing and they're down on our country as if we are rotten or pathetic. We can't win sometimes.
But I love this country and there's more good, kind people living here than horrible, racist etc people. Let them moan,we know the truth and we're proud. 🇬🇧❤️💙💜💛🧡💚👏👏
Many great people work for the NHS but in reality not everyone working in the NHS is a hero. Keep in mind that there is an army of non clinical NHS workers in which the spread of good people who add value is about the same as private companies in my experience.
Here here. I would rather pay more tax and keep our healthcare. It’s such an important part of our country and I wouldn’t want anyone having to decide between being well or bankrupt!
I work for the NHS. Believe me when I say it's not perfect. We're understaffed and underfunded. But we get the job done! The NHS is arguably the best British creation. God bless 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸
nothing great about Britain. I appreciate you guys and what you do & understand why many of you guys leave to go to Australia and wherever else but the people put the NHS even more at risk cus they don't like seeing people like me and you, Tahmed, in 'their country'
fka twigs is the queen of england I reckon hopefully we will see greater funding to NHS after COVID-19 passes over. But who knows.
fka twigs is the queen of england if you think there is nothing great. Leave.
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 I agree. So many people in the UK have completely unjustified prejudice towards foreigners however, I don't believe it is something that stains the entire country. There are plenty of people who appreciate anyone here in Britain regardless of race, religion or nationality
@Tahmed, thank you for your work during this difficult time.
About 30 years ago (yes, I'm old), I was working alongside some American guys on a job here in the UK. Unfortunately one of these guys had an accident and quite badly damaged hi hand- blood every where in spurts level of damage.
The first aid guy on our crew got a pressure bandage on the damage and and said that he needed to go to hospital and that he would call an ambulance. The American guy freaked out. The firm that he worked for had not provided medical cover for their team while working abroad, and while his colleagues had taken out medical insurance, he hadn't, so he was panicking about how he would pay for an ambulance and treatment.
We explained to him, that, technically as a non Brit he should be charged for treatment, the reality was that in the NHS they very, very rarely did this. In fact they tended NOT to ask about nationality etc, and that it would cost him nothing.
He was taken to hospital, having had more work done on his injury by the paramedics who came.
He came back to the worksite the following day. He was all bandaged up, and couldn't really work, but he wanted to hear again how we, could afford to offer treatment that would probably cost at the very least several hundred dollars.
It took him a while to get his head round how the NHS is funded.
2 years later I ran into the same guy on another work site . He had gone back to the States and looked into how Britain was run, education, healthcare, policing etc. He made the decision that although he loved the USA, he decided to emigrate to the UK with his wife and their daughter because he could see that here we, have very similar ideals to the USA, but are a safer country to live and raise a family.
His daughter (and her 2 brothers who were born here) are British citizens.
Great story! I'm definitely very proud to live in the UK with the NHS
I'm glad I read this 👍 big up NHS 💪
I’m an American and got food poisoning or a tummy virus last year while in London. Had to go to the emergency room and wasn’t charged anything. My biggest criticism is the lack of empathy the front desk employees displayed. Here in Miami , the waiting room staff make sure you are comfortable (i.e. get you a blanket, barf bag) while waiting.
Barbara Vyse with visits to NHS hospitals etc they will expect you to sort yourself out in some respects such as keeping pressure on a wound or bringing water or food with you especially if you are waiting to be admitted. If your not a serious case then, you generally have to have a bit of common sense and a stiff upper lip. In the U.K. there is very much a “just get on with it” attitude for a lot of things.
Reminds me in my country where some employers & doctors have been called out for giving their employees only 2 days of MC for worksite accidents, when their injuries actually require additional MC, because my country's legislation allows employers to not report worksite accidents if the MC given is less than 3 days
I’d rather have access to free health care than access to guns...
There was an American ranting on youtube a while back, saying that gun ownership is a fundamental natural human right, but healthcare is a privilege...
@@welshgit what a nutter 😂
I love America, I respect most Americans for their proud patriotic view on their country, in fact I envy them I think it’s brilliant. But the one thing I hate about the US and Americans in general is their blind stupidity towards guns. Most argue that you need guns to protect yourself, but the only reason they need to protect themselves in the first place is because people have guns...??. Here in the UK I think it’s 10-50 people die every year from guns (or a similar number). I understand that most Americans are proud of the ‘Right to bear arms’, but the US would be so much safer and better to live in without.
tommygunner321 we get more than 10 deaths a year. I’d say between 60-150, but it’s still insultingly low compared to the USA
Fiddly Polo-English dude Slusarczyk There’s no way we get ‘60-150’ that number is preposterous. I can’t remember the last time I read about a shooting or heard about one in the news, I’d say 10-25 per year at tops, people just don’t get shot in the UK and dying from being shot? Very rare. Usually when they do it’s in an area like Greater London or Manchester but even then most crimes are with blades/blunt weapons.
Bernie is ”far left” over there? Oh, Americans are so adorable.
his ideas are based around basic human rights and for some reason ppl still don't want to vote for that? I mean the UK didn't either I just need to stop being surprised people just need to actually start realising who is actually going to make a positive difference and that ain't Biden or trump and what is happening now is a perfect example of that...
if they cannot see that then more innocent people are going to die
Its boomers mostly. They would be warmer to national socialism, but overall they prefer capitalism. Usually to their own detriment.
Init.
@Don Ghiata Bernie is just a social democrat. Over here in Europe he would be considered barely center-left. From an outside perspective the US doesn't even have a real "left" party. The Dems are moderate-right and the Reps right to far right by international standards.
When you look at the difference in UK vs US healthcare, remember no one in the UK has ever taken an Uber to hospital in an emergency because they’re worried about an ambulance bill.
The ambulances are either run by the NHS (e.g. LAS) or working with the NHS (St John etc.) and therefore free of charge. Nobody should take an Uber to A&E because of car accidents or heart attacks.
I've taken an Uber to the hospital in a "non emergency"
I broke my arm. I did not need to waste the time of an ambulance when a taxi was faster.
@@lucisano well you wouldn't be able to get an ambulance most likely unless you couldn't physically leave your house without support.
People in the UK dont call an ambulance unless its needed. Basic breaks, injuries etc they would get a lift to A&E. Worse breaks for hips or legs, head injury, stroke, heart attack, breathing problems etc, they would call an ambulance. It depends on urgency of the problem, suitability of appropriate transport and proximity to the A&E dept.
It should be taken into account that, depending on the nature of the emergency, treatment starts the moment the person enters the ambulance.
I once had to call an ambulance to get my disabled neighbour off the floor after she had fallen.
It's not socialist, it's common sense.
We all pay into the pot - and we can all use it for free when needed.
ESClad that’s pretty much the definition of socialism though: from each according to their means, to each according to their need. The problem is the word “socialism” has been stigmatised and demonised when really a lot of it is common sense, particularly when applied to things like health care
@@asahdo Socialism stamps-out the will to achieve more and better oneself, it's a system that wants everyone the exact same, no better no worse. The NHS is constantly bettering itself so it is different and not socialist.
@@esclad I think you are confusing socialism with communism. It is not an inherent part of socialism to stamp-out the will to achieve more or better oneself nor does it necessarily want everyone the exact same. There are different forms of socialism but the general definition is that the public own the means of production. The NHS is owned by the British people, we all pay towards it from our taxes based on what we can afford to give and we all receive from it based on what we need. That is socialist.
Except for the people who don't pay taxes who get to use it, and the people who are forced by threat of prison to pay more than they ever use.
Amelia Oxborrow if that’s socialist what’s wrong with it ?
As a teenager from the UK I would like to put my perspective forward,i was born into a family of 4 siblings raised by divorced parents so we didn’t have much money, none of my siblings had any needs from the NHS however I had a form of cancer in my ear, 2 asthma attacks, grommets, tonsillitis and pneumonia all of which in between the space of 2 years. I would have died if I had lived in America as my bill would have come to around £300,000 minimum. My family members will no doubt pay the government back on the cost of these via tax rather than profit going to private companies that would overcharge or have simply left me to die. I owe my life to the NHS and the great staff who cared for me
Edit: after other people mentioned these things there’s other things I’ve forgotten such a braces, the time I fainted and the 4 teeth I needed removing, there is also things all the checks my mother would have had if I was born in hospital like my siblings(born in my moms bedroom) and vaccines and asthma inhalers along with multiple of my grommets falling out days after surgery.I’ve never had any problems with ambulance times and it’s agreed that it’s a matter of government spending,most people want more funding for the NHS which is why every political party has it in their manifesto
My Thoughts wish more people saw this
Best thing I’ve read. I also owe so much to the NHS, my dad has had 3 heart attacks, my mum spent almost 4 months in hospital with leg problems, I’ve had countless asthma attacks and we’re all on medication. For me alone, my inhalers would cost around £200 a month, and as a student who works part time, you would have to make a choice between breathing or an education.
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Same here. My family have had to deal with ‘little’ things like broken elbows all they way up to having a pacemaker fitted( after having to call an ambulance basically every year for 4 years as my brothers heart kept stopping) My sister worked for the NHS as a midwife before she left giving many years to the service. Is it perfect? No- having a family member who works for the NHS shows you that. But I am forever thankful for it and for all the people behind it.
I too have suffered through the trauma of grommets... in all seriousness though you must be an absolute beast to have survived all that, even with the NHS
It baffles me that America thinks fighting for basic human rights is a “radical” “far left” idea 😩
And it's meant to be the land of the free 😂😂
I’m British - we do find our health services! We pay for it as part of our taxes! We are not a socialist country, but we British believe that tax is not a bad thing as long as it is spent on things that are beneficial for us! In America tax is a dirty word and generally Americans believe in lowest lower bottom tax levels as possible! We do not see it as socialist! We are not a socialist nation but we see fairness very very differently to America! We see the American system as broken too expensive and discriminatory (not on colour or religion but financial!). I have see this report and you have missed one huge point! The people of Britain would not stand for the loss of the NHS it is central to our culture and it all parties know this! The NHS is not for sale! EVER! But I agree with you Aki Fujikawa! But the bottom line is TAX! And how taxes are spent or how much they are!
@Crispy Bud where did you get that nonsense from?? 😄😄 "Daily Mail", I guess...
It costs symbolic amount of money, just to avoid people going there for almost no reason... also yang and older people are exempt from those fees
They been watching too much Fox news
Americans are terrified of tax for whatever reason which is beyond me because the sole purpose is to benefit the PEOPLE. On top of that it's cheaper than insurance because *everyone* is contributing, it's more expensive to build up insurance that only you will be paying than for everyone to pay a small % that benefits everyone equally. People there are so terrified of tax for no reason.
The NHS makes me proud to be British!
Same!!!
Makes me ashamed, I've sadly been let down by the NHS (which is not free considering the UK has some of the highest tax in the world). Had I known how terrible the NHS was, I would have just gone private earlier.
@BigWilki123321 everyone gets healthcare in the uk for half the price and 99% of the nation are also proud. And no taxes are not very high here. Scandenavia tax is high but you get a lot more for your money like free university and strong welfare.
@BigWilki123321 No, its because we look at the US and see that the number one cause of bankruptcy is due to medical bills. We see they are paying more than twice as much as we do per person and yet have higher child mortality rates and lower life expectancy. All of this has been crystal clear to UK citizens since the NHS was founded after WWII- and has been made even clearer in this pandemic. Its why all political parties in the UK (both left and right wing) support the NHS. It guarantees healthcare for the vulnerable in society all while costing substantially less than the US system. There are fundamental ideological differences between the UK and USA that aren't always obvious but are underlined by our approaches to healthcare. I had surgery under the NHS that would have cost $200,000 had it been in the US, and I didn't have to pay a penny upfront, I know that I have and will pay back into the system through tax over the course of my lifetime. The UK praises its NHS like the US praises its military, its one of the few things that everyone in the UK stands behind and is one of the things that makes me proud to be British.
splonkernoodle same I'm from Shrewsbury in the West Midlands living in telford
I rarely use the NHS but I am more than happy to continue paying my taxes to support the NHS as it benefits everyone in my country.
Like people who eat themselves to oblivion and require intensive care once they develop severe heart disease? Yeah no thanks.
#00FF00GRAVITY Unlike America that doesn’t happen much here.
@@banshee1998 Yep even them. Bad decisions doesn't mean we should let something die. Society has a duty to help those in need
@@banshee1998 yes. Because a tiny amount is going to them. A large amount is going to the teenager who was just involved in a hit and run. The parents can stay by their bed side and care for them. Or the chronically ill child with cancer, who can stay in hospital for months at a time undergoing intense treatment and it not cost a penny. Or the palative care for the 89 year old grandma that means she is comfortable in her last hours. Or the team that saves a mother and her child in a complex delivery. Not to mention the mental heath care that just stopped a 22 year old man from killing himself
@Aj you comments don't make much sense
Imagine playing football in the US and your mate puts a bad, mistimed tackle in that breaks your leg and bankrupts your family. Mind boggling that in the UK you would just pop down to A&E and leave later for FREE
SUPERRANDOMCLIP tbh you wouldn’t be playing football in the US...
You don't know the meaning of the word free, also expect to wait 3 hours at a&e.
@@alastairp it's cheap however, considering national insurance is so cheap
@@Eliteerin Not for the rich, it's very expensive for them.
@@alastairp only experience I've had was when I broke my ankle, ambulance called, rushed in right away, x-rayed etc within the hour of it happening, stayed the night, was operated on and left by morning, couldn't have been more efficient
I find it totally bizarre to hear the NHS described as some impossible dream. It’s your right. Literally what is the point of schools, roads, police, firemen, if you’re dead
Ok look at it from the perspective of someone who has lived in the US all their life and paying large amounts of money for healthcare is all we have ever known, we didn't choose to be born here but we were and this is the life we know and so free healthcare is a foreign concept to us that seems like a pipe dream.
Healthcare is not a right! It's a commodity! No one should be forced to care of anyone else unless they want to.
@@Saliem02 sad
@@adambrickell6425 The UN, and therefore every nation, agrees it is a right
Every country in the world have those "benefits" because they pay taxes. US is better, or so they think.
Greetings from Brazil.
I’m from Austria. I wouldn’t call Bernie a “far left politician”. Here in Europe we would call him a center left or a social democrat.
Mahdi Mohammadi I think he's about as left wing as Merkel. Their policies are probably pretty much aligned, in fact he might be too the right of her on some issues. And I don't remember anyone in Germany accusing her of being far left
Guinness yeah but in Europe even merkel isn’t considered far left. Although I would say she leans to the left I wouldn’t class it as extreme. But that’s just my view and I am an outsider to German politics so I may be wrong.
Adam Griffin yer I think she’s more to the right. But I’m the USA they would think she was a full blown communist.
Adam Griffin no Merkel is to right of politics in Germany. Ask a German
I mean, he's agreed with many communist countries. Not far left though?
"Thatcher centre for freedom"
They may as well carry around a neon sign saying we're an American insurance funded lobbying group
You're are not wrong! Corporate shills like that melt are ruining this country
Named after a witch as well
I was thinking the same thing aswell
Sounds like George Orwell made their name up!
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Here’s how it works
UK: “I feel ill, I’ll go see a doctor in case it’s anything serious”
US: “I feel ill. I hope it’s nothing serious because I can’t afford to go see a doctor”
Sam Doohan
I think you’ve taken a basic imagined scenario and imposed the worst possible intentions, and in doing so completely missed the original point.
@@lostalone9320 I'm guessing you have never heard of triage lol 😂
We first go to the chemist if there are some concerns. Then if it’s something more serious, we will see a GP, and if necessary, a specialist or allied health practitioner. If something really bad happens, we can go to the A&E and have things sorted. Or in the worst case scenarios, we can call 999 and get an ambulance to the A&E for treatment.
@@paulching8795 or call 111 for minor ailments or advice
Sam Doohan your missing the point the point is we don’t have to worry about bankrupting our selves for a routine check up most of us brits wouldn’t go “just in case” but we could
It's pretty bad that Americans need to have a video to show how healthcare should be managed in a developed country.
that would imply they took in the information
@@egge6145 maybe the producer should have put the odd image of a gun in the video to keep them interested.
You should have a read of this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-50836324 The media has an agenda, selling the benefits of the NHS, but it's not all that rosey. There's pros ann cons.
BritishFreedom so u gave an example of one horribly managed hospital out of all in the U.K.👏
@@BritishFreedom Yet another non British person spreading propaganda about how bad the NHS is by use 1 example.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40608253 here's one from a US Think Tank that put UK 1st and America last out of 11 countries.
worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world here's another, ok the UK is 18th here, but the US is 37th behind Costa Rica and just above Slovenia!
Even if i never need the nhs and pay into it my whole life through tax, I’m still happy in the knowledge that the money is well spent and goes towards helping my fellow countrymen. If i were paying for health insurance, that money is going to a greedy insurance company that will increase my rates as i get older, not cool!
Big dundee that’s the biggest problem with Americans, they don’t care for everyone else’s welfare. I’m happy to pay into the NHS because it’s an amazing cause, and if I ever need it - it’s there. I’d hate to live in a county knowing that nobody cares about you or anyone.
Everyone will eventually the nhs, old age does not come without health changes!
@Laurence Cursaro investing in the well fear of other peoples health
Facts
@Laurence Cursaro well to start people don't go bust when they get injured or ill
Sod living in america, sounds awful.
It's great, say what I like without the fear that the police could come crashing through my door at any second for saying mean words (one guy in Scotland was fined £850 for telling a joke on youtube) that sounds like tyranny to me.
My Name , I must admit, we have lost a lot of freedom of speech
My Name I’m guessing you’re white then lmao
@@MyName-cw4yr Stop chatting bollocks😂
Laurence Cursaro ridiculous - the video literally went through the metrics and the NHS is cheaper and better. But hey, don’t let facts stand I the way of your opinions.
"Reforming the NHS" simply means deciding how to adequately fund it. It does not mean fundamentally changing the system.
“Reforming” the NHS means destroying it or changing it so much that it’s not the same system anymore. “Reforming” is just a word to sugarcoat it. 🧐
So much middle management in the NHS they could cull and give the nurses more
reforming nhs is euphemism of making it more like american health care system
"Far-Left Bernie Sanders" lmao Americans.
That was the first thing I noticed. Absolute trash reporting
@@BeardiusMaximus not trash tbh, what's "far left" in the US is probably centre left in Europe.
@Oisin Doherty I wouldn't go that far, but center left, yeah. You'd be laughed at for considering him "radical"
@@BeardiusMaximus Bernie Sanders' policies are literally considered conservative in Europe. David Cameron, the conservative PM from 2010-2015 is more left than Bernie Sanders.
@@jackwhite2046 Yeah, that's simply not true. You're also gonna have to be more specific than "Europe" (Cameron was a pro-business , austerity driven conservative who was trying to negotiate the privatization of the NHS through backdoor channels). To claim he's "more left than Bernie" is embarrassingly laughable.
In UK terms, Bernie is pretty much aligned generally with the labour party pre-Starmar. So by the standards of most of Western Europe, that puts him left/center left
Let me explain this in a way someone from any country can understand.
I have a job. I earn about $1500 a month.
The British government takes about $100 a month from my salary.
In return, any healthcare I might need is free.
If I don't have a job, any healthcare I might need is still free, because all the other people who are paying a small amount of their salary to the government are helping to pay for the people who don't have a job.
It works both ways and is very fair.
wHy SHouLd I pAY FOr sOmeONe elSE. THeY aRe leeCHeS
@@angelantayhua3096 because it could happen to you one day. And on that day someone else will pay for you.
@@TheWeepingDalek I think he was joking
Koba He was being sarcastic. Also I’ve always wanted to do this r/whooooosh
@Chelsea Exactly, what you're told by even the Democrats about what this will cost is a lie. Here's a full example of costs.
In the UK nobody pays tax or National Insurance (NI) (NI is health and state pension) until they earn £9,500 per year ($11,885.35) once they hit above that they start paying NI at 12% until they earn above £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it drops to 2%.
Once people earn over £12,500 per year ($15,638.63) you start paying Income Tax at 20% until they earn over £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it goes to 40%, then at £150,000 ($187,663.50) it goes to 45%.
Employers have to pay towards all Employees National insurance at 13.8% based on that persons salary/wage once it goes above £9,500 ($11,885.35). Regardless of how high the salary is.
23 million people in the UK pay no income tax, let's for example say they earn £12,000 ($15013.08) per year that means they only pay £332.16 ($415.56) per year their employer would pay £381.98 ($477.89) per year. In total that would be £16,425,220,000 or $20,549,428,489.80 towards the NHS and state pension.
If you were earning £55,000 ($68,809.95) per year you'd pay £5,011.56 ($6269.91) whilst your employer would pay £6,019.28 ($7530.66)
At £160,000 ($200,174.40) you pay £7,006.56 ($8765.84) per year and the employer pays £19,784.78 ($24,752.54)
At £500,000 ($625,545.00) you pay £13,466.56 ($16,847.88) per year and your employer pays £64,358.78 ($80,518.63)
Employers also have to pay it for any company car, phone, expenses or payout of contract, employees don't.
This all goes out before your net pay, it doesn't cost people much, maybe those fighting against it are employers who do have to pay more.
Bernie Sanders is not Far-Left, he would be considered regular left here in the UK.
Edit: He’s not as far left as former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was. But Sanders is still far left enough to lose an election.
Not even really left maybe free college is bit left but the rest is quite normal
@Graham, King of the Britons! yeah its strange
@@saasda6255 You got free college and university tuition in Scotland.
@@lochsidefishing5103 You also get Wee Krankie and her 'It's all England's fault.'
@@tallthinkev written by an english person
The UK NHS must be protected at all costs - it's one of things that makes the UK special.
Or mabye have a referendum on NHSexit?;D
@@rytisbaranauskas6209 That would likely fail spectacularly.
Source: yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/04/nhs-british-institution-brits-are-second-most-prou
It is quite common in western countries (except the us)
It won’t last forever
how, did you know that they secretly destroy the nhs and replace it with more americanized version of healthcare
Maybe you’ll see how important a national health service after this pandemic. One thing for certain is that the NHS will be going nowhere after this
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 god help any politician who tries to ruin our NHS.
Isthisjustfantasy 75 trump might give it a go right after Boris botches brexit
Bean
Hmmm...yeah, a possible scenario, the Brexit end game turned out different from what we promised, (but that’s not our fault), so...we need to get the money from somewhere...
I really hope the nhs gets the support it needs after this
Even Boris has had his eyes well and truly opened to how amazing the NHS is!!!
The NHS is absolutely amazing and makes me extremely proud to be British!
Healthcare is a right not a luxury.
Damn right about that
Lol NHS is a failure.
@@carl4243 at least it actually exists 👀
The NHS is garbage, it needs to die.
@@handzar6402
And then replace it with what?
My father had a double brain aneurism, he was in hospital for nearly a year recovering and is still going well after 20 years, FOR FREE! Bless the NHS.
My brother had severe diabetes and lost his job. In the US, the whole family would have had to sell everything they had and it would still have quickly run out. His treatments to delay blindness alone would have cost tens of thousands and he got it all free. He would have died a decade sooner if he had been in the US and my father would have ended up homeless and penniless.
It's not for free, it's the government taking your money running it through a bureaucratic system and then turning around and expecting you to be happy with the result.
That is unless you are a leech on the system who makes less than 30k.
@Benji Winger The point that this system has been in place since I was born and no larger political party has put privatisation of it in their manifesto, so I am forced to continue paying more than if I was in a private system.
@@alastairp I think I've seen you in almost every comment chain on this video. If you don't mind me asking, do you live in the UK, and have you actually used the NHS?
@@disceva6443 Yes, Yes
Not only the UK , but most of Europe has this system , and 99% of the people like it .
@Arthur Clements socialists don't like math.
@Arthur Clements Well GENIUS , I just mean the majority .
@@anthonyl.goraczko6099 Why don't we think about it this way? A majority of people in most of Europe's legislatures is all that is needed to pass a law.
In the US, on the other hand, you need a majority of the house and 60% of senators?!
Also the president can veto the law, and if he does you need 66% of the entire Congress to overturn it!?
Even if a majority of a people like an idea, the minority can make it null. God bless America.
Pretty much every wealthy nation in the world has socialized medical care. Is it perfect, no it isn’t. Will you get a quick knee transplant in the UK...No. Will you get generally excellent care if you have cancer...Yes. Also certainly in most of the European countries you can supplement your care with private health insurance, often paid by employers. Given that the USA spends in the region of 18% of GDP on healthcare and Uk, France, Germany spend 10-12% of GDP there is clearly something significantly wrong with the US system, given that healthcare outcomes are generally better in Europe. Surely it’s wrong that the wealthiest country in the world (total GDP, not per capita) should see the largest cause of personal bankruptcies to be healthcare expenses? This is of course before we even think about the impact of health insurance on workforce mobility.
Most of Europe doesn't have this system. The only other place in Europe with it is Gibraltar, a British territory.
Europe uses a insurance model not a nationalised model. Both provide universal free at the point of the delivery health care though
As a British citizen, I love the NHS because at a British hospital your a patient. In America your a customer. I just wish it was better run and better funded but our Government are big fan of austerity. But I'd rather wait a few hours for treatment than pay thousands for it.
Both are the same. If people notice that you don't treat your customers appropriately then you go out of business.That is the best thing about Capitalism. In a socialist run program, you have no incentive, therefore you do not care about the quality of the results you put out.
@@naveygill1793 I unstand where you are coming from.
I will put in another way. witch would like in debt bunket and death. or life and no debt. I have read and seen storys like a million of the in us but people unable to pay, just left to die. the same cases in the uk, you may get the odd 1 or 2 if you are unluckly. I think we had 2 about 5 years ago and that made head line news.
but it is so common in the US. it like getting run over. you get a choose death and deth or just death.
@@antonywagner8079 I'm not sure where you got that information from, but hospitals in United States have to make every effort in saving a patient's life regardless of weather that person can pay or not at that given point of emergency. The collection process of the bill happens after a treatment has been performed and not before contrary to a lot of Asian countries. Also there are a lot of charitable programs that can waive off a substantial amount off your bill. Lastly, private healthcare was not even that expensive before the Government intervened in 2014 and required all citizens to possess insurance. There is a direct correlation in medical costs going up after Obamacare was implemented, because now Hospitals can charge whatever they feel like since they know Obamacare will pay for it regardless. That was not the case before. Government involvement screws up everything.
Great point!
I had a consult with an ENT.
They billed me $485.00 to have a 10 min discussion on my options for fixing my deviated septum. My insurance paid the $200
They want me to pay $285
I told them to stick it
They charge whatever they can in the USA. surprise bills etc are the norm
They will never give you a straight answer on what a procedure will cost btw
It’s a crooked system
What will happen to all of the jobs in this crooked system I wonder under Bernie
@@naveygill1793 no. Hospitals are not the same. Hospitals in America are pretty much local monopolies. There's usually no more then 2 hospitals in any given area. They can charge whatever they want and service be poor. Where else is the locals going to go?
“No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of a lack of means.”
I really wonder if 'the right to life' is actually a right in the USA
They don't deny anyone medical aid, they will just take all of your money after they save your life
@@Saliem02 lmao what you smokin
Lol NHS is a failure.
@@carl4243 source?
With the virus outbreak I as an uninsured American am thinking should I go to the hospital or just try to deal with it myself since going to hospital might bankrupt me.
John L. Same here no insurance
Welcome in America, if you take care of yourself then you'll have to pay. A LOT.
Covid 19 is not a serious disease, nobody is going to bankrupt by coronavirus.
@@victorsilva-oz7rm Apparently in the US, coronavirus might bankrupt you if you have no insurance. Just an IV drip will cost you 100$, that's might not include alcohol swap when they put the needle prior to the IV drip. The needles might also be charged separately. Currently, COVID-19 is dealt with by treating the symptoms. Feverish and dehydration means several 'IV therapy'. Just imagine a week in isolation ward (more expensive than a normal ward) with all the treatment of several symptoms.
John L. And another side of the Story are people whom can not afford to stay home in self-quarantine, and infects others. Understandsbly people go to work when they don’t have much