Airplane pilots, what was your biggest "we're all screwed" moment?
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The pilots with the biggest “we’re all screwed” moments aren’t pilots any more. They aren’t ALIVE anymore.
lol
R/technecallythetruth
Or they're Denzel Washington in the movie flight (about a pilot who is a hero for saving his passengers but it turns out he caused the crash bc he was drunk)
20:00 I 100% believe the clapping in the story. I was once on a turbulent flight where we weren't even told to brace for impact. But it had been so shaky and stressful that once we had landed, many people broke out into cheers and claps. I think its something to do with the high adrenaline needing an output after the situation is over. People need to burn that energy.
I have a very similar story to yours. It was a Sunwing flight and it was a bit turbulent the entire flight but when we landed everyone started clapping even though it was generally a normal flight with mediocre turbulence.
Same, except for me it was the start of winter break and it was the first flight out of the community in like a week. (The grocery stores were also running low on things). So the flight was full (there were at least eight teachers trying to get out) of people eager to get somewhere with more than one red light. Never had I seen the airport lobby so packed with people wanting to get our
Specially around the 90's as I guess this "could go till the gates" time would be, in some places they would even clap in normal flights.
I watch a few different air incident shows and that crash was real (I've seen it both on Air Crash investigation and Mentor Pilot)I can't say for sure that the OP was on it of course but both show describe clapping and cheering in the after math (a lot of best outcome incidents include it like you said high adrenaline needing an output after the situation is over)
People were clapping after every single landing I've experienced... And only one was rough, no emergencies 😂😂
Last story. Heard a similar story about a plane stalling every time it hit cruising altitude, only to revive during the fall. The explanation for that one was that a volcano had spit so much co2 into the atmosphere, and it was starving the engines. Engines stall, plane falls, only to hit normal air and start working again. Start climb, only to hit the volcano cloud again and repeat.
British Airways 009 what you're looking for? B747, emergency landing in Jakarta?
bro just fly at like 14000ft and youll be fine
iirc this was one of the first flights to really experience the effects of volcanic ash (which caused the incident, not CO2) on an aircraft. The pilots didn’t even know what caused it until they landed. And they only tried to climb again once. When their engine failed again, then they realized them climbing caused the problem. They did an incredible job, and nothing better could be expected from anyone.
Yeah, BOAC 009. Crazy thing is, when they went to land, they realized their windshield had been sandblasted by the ash in the air, and they managed to land with a windshield like frosted glass.
Story #17: Dude straight up MacGyvered that situation.
😂😂😂😂😂 straight up
Lmao
I think I can help with that second to last story.
Banner planes can be almost any slow plane, but are typically overwing single engines (the kind with a propeller out the front and one big wing over your head where you sit.) Think a Cessna Skyhawk. These types of planes typically have fixed landing gears, regardless of if the third is a nose or tail gear. So imagine your seat in the cockpit, a wing above you with a support strut connecting to the fuselage, and a thick strut that ends in a wheel popping out either side under your seat.
It sounds like a model with a copilot seat behind the pilot (again, not too unusual.) So, stick control behind his chair.
One factor in the pilot's favor is overwing aircraft are *very* stable. Having your center of gravity under your center of lift/buoyancy makes a lot of things stable, or even self-correcting. There's no fight or dance with a stick in one of those planes to keep things level, so it's actually really believable that you could steer it with your knees, push come to shove.
So, reach behind, the stick back there is basically a pipe with a handle on one end, so you really just undo one nut and bolt and pop, you have a long handle.
Considering the size of the plane, the pilot likely just sat in their seat, steered with their knees, and either held their pole-steak-knife with two hands, or one hand there, one on the door. Very impressive, wouldn't want to have to do it myself, but I hope now you can imagine how it was done.
I think I actually had a decent visual on it the first time around, but I like your explanation anyway!
Okay, but why is the banner not simply tied on somewhere?
@@renakunisaki so a quick Google tells me the answer there is ground effect.
Basically, the banner would normally act like an aerofoil on a racecar, pulling it down against the ground it was running along.
There is new technology now that means if you have the equipment, you can take off with the banner attached. But much like adaptive cruise control on cars, this was a safety innovation that people just had to do without until it was developed (I say, driving a car that doesn't even have basic cruise control.)
@@oldgus01 though whether adaptive cruise control can be considered a safety feature is debatable, since it encourages the driver to pay less attention during routine parts of driving.
Some more context here. These slow planes have windows on the sides, just like a car, that you can open and since they are so slow you can even open them in flight without causing any issues.
6:58 I heard about a British flight that was very similar. This old guy loved flying in this friend's plane, but didn't know how to fly himself. One day, his friend had a heart attack mid-flight. He contacted ATC, who had to teach a guy who had never flown a plane before how to land - and they only had a matter of hours to do so before sundown. He did manage to land the plane safely, but by that point, it was too late for his friend.
There was another case where something similar happened in Florida with a Cessna Caravan a couple of years ago. Thankfully, the doctors did manage to save the pilot that time.
I suddenly respect photographs of Crater Lake from certain angles much, much more.
Phobias are irrational. If I was in the plane with the nest of spiders and I found out, we’d be dead
I used to have a phobia of spiders, but not so much any more. I still don't like them near me, but I also don't freak out like I used to. How did I do it? I forced myself to live with cellar spiders for over a year. I basically let them all live and do their thing and I guess I came to not be so scared of spiders anymore. I ended up going too far and decided to see what would happen if I let the cellar spiders live for a decade. Surprisingly, out of the entire decade, only had cellar spiders on me maybe three or four times. The rest of the time they kept their distance. Once those that got on me noticed they were on a moving object, they took off like scared creatures. Spiders generally seem to be just as scared of us as we are of them. The exception seems to be jumping spiders that almost always want to jump on you once they see you for some reason.
19:45 I don't agree with that logic on the 'everybody cheered'. I've been on plenty of planes where people clapped after the landing, so I could fully believe it happening after a situation like that. That doesn't mean it's definitely true, but that plus the "everybody clapped" fake stories are generally hyping up something you 'did', not something you were a passenger for, leads me to not just automatically assume it's fiction.
Agreed.
It's a stereotype that Americans clap after the plane lands. Guess they're just happy to be on the ground, and not in the side of a skyscraper
I even went on calm flight, where everything was finned and people still claped after landing. So it is still possible in my opinion
Yeah...the "and everyone clapped" stereotype is a sign of a story being fake because, as a reader, it makes us pause and think "what kind of pwraon would even clap for that?!"
But, applauding after a rough landing? One that requires emergency exits to be used? That is 100% something I would clap for.
Yeah that story sounds really fake tbh, the aircraft belly landed right? In that case of it going off the runway at high speed I’d want to get out as fast as possible, no time for the entirety of the aircraft’s passengers to shake the pilots hand when your sitting on top on top of tons of gallons of fuel which could become an inferno if ignited. Also according to the story a geese flew into one of the engines, if only one engine is out on a commercial airliner then the electrics should still work, and even if the gear can’t be put down there’s often a Manuel crank on most airliners.
The story about the 12 year old on a flight out of O'Hare that struck a goose and crash-landed is most likely the United Airlines flight out of O'Hare that hit a goose and successfully landed. It happened in 1987. So yes, plausible.
the story was going into midway then diverted to o hare, didnt come out of o hare
I was the passenger. I was on a commuter aircraft sitting just ahead of the wing when the propeller came off and one blade came through the side of the airplane just ahead of my window. I have a scar 3 inches long on my leg just below the knee from the propeller tip. To this day I will not get on a Fairchild Metroliner.
Many accounts of crashes that have everyone surviving have accounts of passangers cheering and clapping when they reach the ground. And sometimes in the air port too. You go from thinking your about to die to alive tends to warrant some cheering.
20:00 I feel like a situation expected to end in death somehow working out is one of those situations where I ABSOLUTELY believe everyone would clap and cheer. That’s the sort of thing where it would be LESS believable if they didn’t.
Realized I was to pilot a Boeing.
r/ihadastroke
@@GreatestNate888 r/confidentlyincorrect
@@GreatestNate888some people use ‘to’ in lieu of ‘supposed to’, means the same thing.
don’t go in any parking lots
@@servantbee. well sorry I’m AMERICAN USA FOR LIFE BABY IMPERIAL SYSTEM RULES MCDONALDS FOR LIFE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I’m a student pilot in the Cessna 172 and recently had my first solo cross country flight. I fly in a pretty windy state, so the advantage of that is being proficient in flying in more challenging weather conditions.
the one with the kid in the plane crash I believe it. Used to watch a lot of documentary stuff and one thing I’ve watched a lot is a program called air crash investigation and I actually remember that crash being on the show. Sure it’s possible op saw the same documentary but there are much more dramatic ones on that show to choose from
Can you give me the title of the episode? I watch that show too and I’d like to watch that episode
@@kylewitter2806 wish I remember to tell you never did pay much attention to episode numbers or titles. I do know there are old episodes of the show on UA-cam though because watched a few of them. Just all that seems familiar to me.
When my dad was a kid, my grandpa drove a Cessna off the taxiway and into a chain link fence. My grandma had a Polaroid camera on her, and immediately snapped a picture. Don't know why that was her first reaction, but makes for a hilarious story.
My dad is a pilot, he once landed a plane that had a hole in the wing from lightning striking through it.
Omg
Improperly managed aircraft, that would never happen with an aircraft properly built and managed.
If a pilot thinks “we’re all screwed” he’s either a bad pilot or he doesn’t survive
As someone who had a bumpy landing once, JUST BUMPY not even a life or death thing, ppl fuckin cheer. That moment of silence is real too. And then everyone lets out the tension and it's laughter and clapping and--bc this was not a huge deal--jokes, esp from the pilot. It's an extremely common reaction for a group coming out of a stressful situation.
8:32 with arachnophobia, the brain essentially considers spiders to be just as bad as a plane crash, only worse bc they’re right there with you. Can confidently say that if I were in that situation, there’d be hyperventilation at minimum.
The last story, if it was a Boeing 737 Max, that problem was caused by computerized controls that were not properly designed, and was implemented without disclosure to the pilots. It was the reason for 2 fatal crashes, and grounding the entire model for months. There were many pilot complaints about the controls, but it took 2 fatal crashes before the airlines were forced to do anything about it. There are air disaster documentaries that explain the behavior of the plane that caused the crashes, and probably caused lots of other pilots' gray hairs, and early retirements.
If I am correct I believe it was the computer pushes the nose down to avoid a stall and pilots as you stated were not aware and pulled back making the computer push the nose further down. Unless that was a different plane but I think that is correct right?
I have heard so many stories where student pilot's instructor has a medical emergency, and the student somehow performs the best landing in their life. There must be a latent superpower in humans.
25:38 planes that fly those are usually small, like a piper cub. Unfortunate events that the flag got caught on the wheel, but those aircraft are small, and designed to land on small grass strips. This means he would be able to lean out the window and use his knife on the pole to cut the stick (Edit) then land and pick up the flag again then take off to continue the flight. (Cont.) OP, amazing flying, can’t imagine the stress of that situation. I hope this helps
(Read a little bit and found a similar answer with more details from @oldgus01)
with the last story, its very normal for pilots not to tell the passengers what's going on. the rules in a cockpit are, aviate, navigate, communicate.
basically, if there is something going on that requires the pilots full attention, then they're just going to deal with it.
they're going to fly the plane, and once they have it under control, they'll then figure out where they are & where they're going. it's only once everything is back to normal that they'll even talk to the passenger or ATC, unless they need to declare an emergency
Found you a couple months ago and haven’t been able to stop watching since! Love the frequency of content, just make sure you take care of yourself :) you seem like a genuine person and you have a nice voice
The last story reminds me of Quantas flight 72. The plane just suddenly nosedived, the pilots recovered the plane, and then it nosedived *again*. They recovered the plane, *again*, and it this point, every passenger onboard had serious injuries. They did manage to land the plane safely with no deaths, but pretty much everyone who didn't have their seatbelts on when the plane nosedived was hospitalized. They still don't know what caused this. They know it was a computer error, but from what, no one knows. The best explanation they have sounds almost unbelievable: solar radiation interference. Normally the ozone blocks out most of the sun's deadly radiation, but sometimes a little bit slips through - just enough to mess with electronics. A bit flip was reported to be the cause of a Mario speedrun record in the 90s - it caused a glitch that nobody could replicate.
Sorry to burst your bubble my guy but the Mario 64 bit flip is a myth. It was a possibility that was thrown out when the speedrunners and glitchhunters had no idea what happened. If I recall correctly its believed the warp was caused by a bad connection between carriage and console. Not to say bit flips aren't a thing, they are and I trust you on this Quantas flight, but the Mario bit flip is a thing speedrunners see online and sigh about.
LunaticJ made a good video on this a month ago titled "The Biggest Myth in Speedrunning History"
Do you think anyone in history has made human breast milk yogurt?
Isn’t that the issue Boeing had with the automatic whatever thingy? One of the first signs of the downfall of the company, that is happening right in front of us with pieces of planes falling off literally every week? Pretty sure they had a faulty automatic system that would repeatedly- and completely out of pilot control - “fix”nose position or something and by doing so on false flares, would cause this kinda thing. But I can be wrong, of course.
@@VicenteMarinho Qantas flight 72 was not related to the Boeing MCAS debacle. It was an airbus, which ADIRU (air data inertial reference units) failed causing it to receive faulty data. The aircraft sensed, both an overspeed and stall at the same time among other things. This caused the aircraft to do a uncommanded dive, have only glanced over the report, I guess this was caused by airbus´s stall avoidance system, which will react to a stall by lowering the nose. This caused a lot of injuries in the cabin as passengers where not all buckled in and had loose items around them.
The cause of the fault have not been identified, and the list of possible explanations include things like passenger devices and the already mentioned bit switch caused by cosmic rays. They have not been able to conclusively identify the cause of the error, though it was deemed an isolated incident unlikely to happen again.
As to the possibility of cosmic rays interfering, I have heard of a Belgian voting counting computer experiencing what was also believed to be a bit switch, that caused ludicrous numbers of votes. They then had to recount the votes.
Story 3: It definitely saved his life. He was in a stall, on final, with no air keeping the craft up. If he had hit the throttle or did nothing at all, there would not have been anywhere near enough time to regain the speed. Would have slammed bottom first into the ground.
Most "everyone clapped" does feel fake but in this one I fully believe it. When you're scared you might die, but you have to sit still and just WAIT, you end up with a LOT of pent-up energy. Physiologically speaking, your body absolutely needs to burn up that adrenaline, and when you are pumped with adrenaline and hit with that level of relief ("I really thought I might die and now I'm safe"), it's completely normal to get a little giddy. Add to that a bunch of people going through that together, and the relief/excitement is contagious and it builds. I've watched people get excited and cheer over watching sports, it's fully reasonable that a bunch of people got that excited after surviving a terrifying ordeal.
As an aspiring pilot, I found this video quite fun!
20:00 - While clapping isnt always a fake story, this story is pretty fake. First off, search google you won't find anything. Second, with the amount of runways o'hare has, they would not ground all the planes. Third, 45 minutes?? Ohare to Midway? gtfo. Fourth, if the parents really gave the pilots their salary in a check... why are you flying Southwest Airlines (I assume)... why? Fifth, if they diverted to Ohare, they wouldve made a few circles to reduce landing weight or else that landing wouldve been fast asl. Anyways that writer should be an author, nice storytelling, have a nice day
I found an incident where, in 1988, a TWA Boeing 727, N852TW, diverted from Midway to O'Hare with a gear failure and made a belly-landing, with everyone surviving. No bird strike involved though as far as I can tell. And it was from Saint Louis, not Tampa, although I suppose there could've been a layover involved.
Story 2: That is called intuition. Knowing your machine in and out, as much of an extension of you as your own arm or leg. You dont have to think about where to put your hand to catch the ball flying at your face you just move your hand and catch it. You dont have to think about where to move to miss the piece of debris in the road you just turn the wheel and correct before the cars weight even shifts. You dont have to think 'MOAR POWER' to properly apply throttle and get lift back under the wings. That is learning beyond regurgitating facts back onto a test sheet, its KNOWING the material as the sum of its parts.
13:42 I hope that the flight crew was able to claim some kind of compensation. That is a very serious negligent error that could have led to a catastrophic Haul Loss.
The tow plane was probably a light, high wing tail dragger, like a Piper J3 Cub or Super Cub with a stick between your legs for roll and pitch control. Pull back on the stick to raise the nose, push forward to drop the nose, move the stick to the right to roll right and left to roll left and anywhere in between to do both at once. The rudder is controlled by foot peddles. That is why he could control the plane with his knees and feet but believe me, it’s no small feat especially if you have more drag on one side of the plane than the other. Good job!
Not me, But a mentor of mine was a pilot who flew from Dc3s to 747s in the air New Zealand fleet, though his longest stay was on the Fokker F27 Friendship. the friendship was a small regional turboprop, with the loudest engines imaginable ( to the point that he has hearing damage in his left ear from the single ear headset not covering it) but it was fast reliable and very modern.
One particular flight from Auckland down to Christchurch (A 1 and a half hour trip) the fire warning comes on. Fire is never good on an airplane, but this indicator was for the baggage compartment and was known to be easily triggered accidentally. At this point they were 20 mins flight from the destination and there were no alternates nearby, as at this point in time New Zealand had next to no major airfields. The plane touches down all the while the second baggage compartment alarm goes off. This means its now more likely than not a fire in the cargo hold. the plane taxis to the gate with the fire department waiting , they open the locker and are hit by a wall of smoke.
No one was injured, and the plane was fine. As it turned out, a passenger had brought onboard a few bottles of chemicals used to harden fiberglass for boat repairs. He specialized in fixing boats and was on a job in Auckland and on the flight home to Christchurch. Well this passenger had mistakenly not screwed the lids on properly, and in the turbulent flight over the cook straight (picture New Zealand as 2 islands with an ocean section in the middle which is almost 100% of the time windy af) the bottles had opened
These chemicals mixed and created an exothermic reaction and then fire in the suitcase. Luckily there was nothing in the case that could burn besides the chemicals and the case itself chocked the fire, but as soon as the fire department opens the baggage bay, oxygen flooded in and the reaction speed up, hence the billowing clouds of smoke.
in the end, no one was injured, the fire was contained to the suitcase and the aircraft was undamaged and everyone breathed a sigh of relief.
The only pilots who can answer truly are not able to answer at all.
Honestly, the big jets don't even care if they lose one engine. So the story about the plane just circling to dump fuel, then turn around and land is actually not that crazy. The possible issue with the landing gear would be a bit more problematic, but you can still just bellyflop it.
Some 4 engine aircrafts don't even count as an emergency if they have an engine failure.
In story three, the part where the poster said they increased throttle and lowered the nose without thinking about it, that is actually a potential sign that they had learned very well. In aviation, in certain dangerous or just time-critical scenarios, there are often critically important actions that should be performed from the memory of the pilots once they realize the scenario they are in. These actions are, creatively, called “Memory Items.” The whole idea of memory items is that they are items that could be very time-critical or just overall important to perform in a scenario, and so a pilot should be able to perform them from memory instead of having to find the appropriate checklist (checklists in this case are lists containing actions pilots should perform in certain situations)
The one with the goose and the 12 year old kid is actually true, i searched it up
Aircraft Mechanic here:
On one of our planes, there was a power flux that killed all the lights and instruments in the flight deck died... On approach to land...
For story 18, another potential answer could have been traffic avoidance. Occasionally, at extremely busy airports, they may require pilots to make multiple changes to both their course and their altitude during departure or approach to avoid other aircraft. The engines going "silent" was likely just the pilots reducing thrust to idle so the aircraft didn't gain excessive amounts of speed during the temporary descent. More information probably necessary to determine whether this cause is correct, however.
A little insight into Story 17, many smaller planes especially ones with just a few seat have the actual door for the plan near or behind the wing as well as having windows that can be opened from the inside. In the case of the story its very likely that the door would have been modified or possibly even removed to allow him to toss out the grappling hook, this opening is where he would have stuck the pole out of and been able to reach the tire.
The O'Hare story seems to be a combination of 2 separate incidents at the airport, neither of which involved Tampa (at least without a layover). So it's either fake or misremembered.
On August 27th, 1987, a United Airlines 767 sucked a goose into it's right engine on takeoff from O'Hare, with the plane then making a successful landing, and the passengers being transferred to a separate plane before flying to California.
On August 27th, 1988, a TWA 727 flying into Midway from St Louis suffered a gear failure on approach, diverted to O'Hare, and made a successful belly landing.
It could be fake, but now I kind of think he was on the latter flight, and the two incidents being exactly 1 year apart led to some confusion on the details. If there's a layover in St Louis flying out of Tampa, it can make sense.
Right? I was thinkin the same. Although I only thought of the TWA 727. Both were in the same time period so whoever wrote the story probably confused it
@@legendplayz206 Someone else added more details provided in the reddit story which seems to make out that the OP was just faking it. Maybe blending together 2 historical incidents to make it seem more plausible.
It's just coincidence that those 2 incidents happened to be exactly a year apart.
With Story 17, it's a small airplane with openings (think old-fashioned planes) & he crafted basically a knife arm to stick out & cut the rope while driving with knees & the other hand.
I imagine the pilots of Swissair 111 knew they were screwed and the passengers likely didn't know up to the very instant they hit the water.
for the guy who flew the banner, He probably stayed in the plane and reached out the window (or, at least, that's how I imagined it)
most of the time when the readers are suspicious of the "and everybody cheered" stories, they aren't actually stories where being That excited for a good outcome is a thing. Not having a bunch of people become part of a Great Lakes soup...? eyah, that's applause worthy.
Story 3 sounds like textbook decrease performance wind shear, and yes it has killed a significant amount of pilots. Usually the you would perform go around, and in any case adding power and lowering the nose was the right call.
For the last story, my guess would be a software issue as something very similar happened to boeing 737 max planes and caused some to crash.
The main gist was that these planes had software installed that would allow the plane to make small adjustments to help keep it flying steady. However, pilots weren't informed of the new software being able to make corrections like that, and the software relied on readings from ONE sensor. So if that sensor was damaged or malfunctioning AT ALL, these "corrections" could cause huge problems, ESPECIALLY random nosedives like the OP describes. The pilots could usually wrest control back for a moment, until the broken sensor caused the software to force a nosedive again, rinse and repeat. Because the pilots didn't know about the software it would seem like these malfunctions had no explanation, and they couldn't fix the actual cause of the problem. They would basically have to fight the plane itself for control until they could land.
It likely wasn't the exact same software error that caused what OP described (different plane types), but given the similarities of the problems I wouldn't be surprised if it was something similar.
16:13 I took a shot at looking this up and I cannot find anything similar to this anywhere on news sites or Wikipedia. I'm still looking but I'm not sure about this one. Also, they usually wouldn't usually have people shake the pilot's hand on the plane; the goal is to evacuate the plane in 90 seconds.
Yeah, I looked into it too. The goose getting sucked into the engine is what made me think it may be true. I listen to a podcast called "Black Box Down" that covers airline tragedies and I remember they covered a story about a plane that had geese sucked into the engines. However, after pulling up that episode (Title: Birds Bring Down Airplane) it covers the famous case of Captain Sullenberger who had to land in the Hudson River due to having geese sucked into the engines back in 2009. Other than that, nothing reported similarly from accidents listed under Florida or Illinois.
wikipedia doesn't list very many crashes, the closest I could find was a TWA flight on the 27th of august 1988. the crash report NTSB id number is CHI88FA223.
I think OP combined 2 different flights.
On August 27th, 1987, a United Airlines Boeing 767 struck a goose on takeoff from O'Hare, making a successful emergency landing at the airport, with the passengers being put on another 767 to fly out to California, delaying them by ~5 hours in the end.
On August 27th, 1988, a TWA flight from St Louis to Midway suffered a gear failure on a landing attempt and diverted to O'Hare, with the Boeing 727 performing a successful belly landing.
If OP had a layover on the way home from Tampa and got the details for the cause of the incident mixed up between the 2 incidents that were exactly a year apart I could see the story being true.
Just a little tidbit about Crater Lake, located in Oregon: It's one of the deepest lakes in the world, and during the summer time, the water temperature rarely, if ever, makes it to, much less above, 40*F. even in summer, it's hypothermiaville if you fall in, and cannot swim to shore.
To story 7 I can just say: spiders are no problem to me, but their webs (especially the sound of them ripping combined with the looks of a ripped spider web lightly waving around) is pure horror for me for some reason as if I have PTSD from something relating to spider webs.
Story 14 - there are not that many emergency landings at O'Hare with goose involved. This incident most probably happened at 17.09.2004.
Clapping after landing happened during every single flight in my life. 😂😂
Though the op said that families could meet you at the terminal, which implies it was post-9/11. I dont know if it was allowed a little after as I wasn’t alive then, but it seems improbable that her dad would have been able to meet her if it was in 2004
@@sammi1868 ohhh I totally forgot! It must have been earlier.
I found a TWA flight from August 1988 that more closely matches the story (belly landing at O'Hare after a diversion from Midway), but the 727, N852TW, departed from St Louis and didn't strike a goose.
I saw this thread and didnt contribute, but in case some young pilot reads this; pa28-140 approach to Bremerton on a clear cavu day great for flying. I came out of cruise and slotted myself into a 45 downwind entry between two pattern aircraft, one about to turn base, one turning crosswind to downwind. I remember making visual contact on the aircraft turning downwind as i merged abeam the field, but as i startedy turn downwind i realized i was overshooting the downwind based on the leading aircraft now turning base and hauled her into a 45 degree bank to keep proper position. The next few seconds have haunted me ever since. Between the g loading and drag from the bank, i lost a lot more speed than i anticipated and the stall light came on as i went to roll wings level, i then felt the down wing start to break and had to dance on the rudders to keep from snap rolling as i added power to improve my energy situation. It all happened so quick, buti am eternally grateful my instructor had insisted on both lots of power on stall and spin training so i had the muscle memory to not spin out in the pattern. Landed normally, but it still sends shudders down my spine how close i was to killing us.
My dad was/ is an acrobatic pilot. He was flying in a really important competition when the wooden frame in one of the wings broke. If you know what this is you that this is BAD. Fortunately he was able to land without much damage and is fine now. His plane did need to be fixed as the other frame broke during transport.
I’m 3 minutes in and my suspicions are confirmed. Knowing a bit about aviation, I was assuming the vast majority of stories would be small planes rather than airline pilots, even though that wasn’t exactly the prompt. They’re fun as hell, but little props are so much more dangerous
The smaller the aircraft, the more dangerous it is. The vast, vast majority of people killed when flying is in "ultralights" that drop like a stone whenever the engine cuts out. As opposed to a jetliner which not only has multiple engines and can fly just fine on half, but will happily glide from cruising altitude for hundreds of miles.
Thankfully haven't had any of those moments yet, but I have had a couple close encounters with big birds!
One moment that still sticks with me happened while I was taking off in a four-seat, single-engine Piper Warrior. Right as we reached the liftoff speed, I started pulling back on the yoke to lift the nose and start climbing, and I saw a hawk/falcon flying about 20 feet over the runway right in front of me. This bird was in a position where I was sure we would hit it if I tried to take off at that point, so I released the back pressure and kept rolling. Once we were passed the bird, I resumed pulling back and climbed away with a sigh of relief!
If you've never heard "everyone clapped and cheered" at the end of a flight, even a regular boring normal one, you've never been to Europe and had Italians on the plane. They're a hoot.
aviation enthusiasts👇
"we land like a kangaroo with a rocket up it's butt" had me rolling 😂
Btw, out of curiosity, what was the flight number of the plane that got a goose sucked into it's engine and had to do an emergency landing?
No such events as a current airline pilot, but when I was building hours in a POS Seminole twin engine prop plane, I lost the only vacuum system in the aircraft while in low IMC. DG and Att indicator indicating opposite indications. Very disorienting and unnerving
You're awesome. This is what I've always asked myself while watching Mayday: What happens in planes that we don't get to know, because they manage to save things? Because I had some rough flights and the excuses didn't make sense. 😅
The Mentour Pilot channel might interest you then.
@@walkir2662 It's good, thank you.👍
Was on a flight into Memphis a while back, on final approach from the south. Suddenly the pilot started a go-around, and dramatically fast. We're probably less than 30 seconds from touchdown and he rams the throttle full, pulls up sharp and raises the gear. We zoom right over the top of the airport, probably less than 1000 feet up. We then do a wide loop and land from the opposite direction, the north. It was a hell of a gentle landing, too. Damn fine piloting.
I still have no idea what happened, and likely never will. The weather was calm, and the butter landing from the other direction makes sudden wind shear seem unlikely. The pessimist inside me believes it may have been a last-second runway incursion, and ATC gave our pilot a GTFO order.
“Our cessna can only glide 2-3 miles in an emergency” lol
These stories just serve to remind you: the hardest part of flying is always the landing.
My was when I got my ppl ..and started ifr. The amount of money just to stay current is unbelievable
funnily enough, i watched airplane! yesterday.
very good, you all gotta see it.
Yes, I remember, I had lasagna.
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
Story 17 : (to the narrator) the pilot was controlling the plane steering wheel thing(idk the name) with their knee while the pilot was sawing off the rope using a steak knife attached to a pole thing, hope this helps
Story at 20:00 I watch a few different air incident shows and that crash was real (I've seen it both on Air Crash investigation and Mentor Pilot)I can't say for sure that the OP was on it of course but both shows describe clapping and cheering in the after math. Alot of best come incidents included it.
The last story I have a theory. Maybe the engines kept stalling cause of a fault. So therefore they were going slow at the end. And the pilot dove twice to gain airspeed and gets more engine speed by having more air pass the engine blades. Thus being able to restart them
Not me thinking this was some damn good AI until the response about the banner tow 😂
I’m hardly an expert but I’ve got some time in a 172 as I’m pre-PPL. I’ve contemplated what crazy stuff I might have to deal with and even if it made no sense to you, that was a thrilling listen lol I’d have crapped myself before I could even come to a conclusion. I do think it’s like the spider thing though, I have a feeling that in the situation you’d be more thinking of how not to die. I know at least for me, when I’m flying I am pretty zoned in.
Hit a 14 knot crosswind on VERY short final (maybe 50 ft from touchdown) and landed side-load and felt the plane being pushed but didn’t connect the dots. My instructor was like “ok cool get back up” (in a little quicker tone than I was used to) so I was like thinking to myself damn that sucked.. we got up and he told me what happened. I was so zoned in on trying to land better, because mine have been absolute crap, that I had no idea what just happened 😂 I was really proud of myself after that.
Ooo I’ve been waiting for an askreddit compilation like this!
People applaud even after perfectly mundane landings. Of course they'd clap after one that was nearly a disaster.
As a PASSENGER (on a A319 /A320 / A321???),
The most "concerned" that I've been on a plane that I can fully remember due to not blocking it out (story for another day),
Was at the start of 2004,
My mum and I had flown from Sydney to Frankfurt,
And we were now flying from Frankfurt to Stuttgart, an announcement was apparently made in German (I was too busy thinking of the idiot who had to be told by the FA several times to turn his phone off...... I was quite close to just taking the phone out of his hand and breaking it.....
And so I didn't hear the announcement, and my German is quite bad and so even if I did hear it, I wouldn't have understood it.
So the scene is,
Germany (Frankfurt)
Early morning in WINTER (still dark),
Taxiing to the runway,
lots of snow and no doubt ice on the wings,
NO FLAPS,
And all of a sudden the engines spool up as though we are about to start the take off roll......
Using my own initiative I was about to enter the crash position (I might not be a pilot...... but I know that this isn't going to end well),
When all of a sudden the engines "spool down", and we continue taxiing.....
We then enter the "de-icing bay" followed by seeing the much needed flaps deploy,
Followed by turning on to the runway and commencing our take-off roll
Apparently what was said in German mentioned de-icing by their "colleagues" etc.....
If you have the year and airport, you can look stuff up. It gets easier with more details like month, day, plane, airline, incident type, etc.
last story: I think that they were trying to unstall the engine. some types of engines can get kinda a kick start if you can go fast enough. but idk
I’ve been on a bumpy flight with people afraid of flying. The cheering is when landing is real. I can see this happening when landing after almost dieing.
Last Story
Might have been traffic warnings from the plane.
The plane senses another aircraft too close and yells at you "DESCEND, DESCEND"
Then you have to chop the power and descend.
Then you climb back up to where you are supposed to be, if you do it too quick the plane system might get triggered by the same aircraft and start again: "DESCEND, DESCEND". You can guess the rest.
Ok, so with the banner plane story, he was in a small 2 seater aircraft where the seats were in a row (likely a piper cub or similar). The aircraft likely didn't have doors or he opened them, and he was simply leaning outside of the aircraft to cut the rope.
If something I said was unclear, I'd be happy to clarify. Also, I know my grammar sucks and I don't care.
I think the whole point was that he unbolted the rear stick and utilized it with duct tape and the knife to manufacture a very long-handled knife.
6:05 >DTW
>Detroit-Wayne County Metropolitan Airport (Detroit Metropolitan Airport or even more simply, Detroit Metro)
That's my neck of the woods.
Remember rubbing my belly against a tree on solos.... In a glider so nothing happened to any engines i didnt have but i was scared when i noticed im too low and hearing that rubbing top of the tree freaked me out 😅
Me being afraid of planes: This seems like a great video to watch before going to sleep
RC pilot here, no preflight. I lost money that day.
Last story: sounds like a stall, maybe due to wind shear? The nose down is a stall recovery tactic, so then the question is why are the engines stalling? Wind shear would make sense why they didn’t turn around as well. If there was an incident tsa should have a report on it if there are more details to the flight.
As a pilot and instructor myself, half of these did not even sound reasonable or logical. However, I can tell you my own personal scare hits:
Was doing a low approach over a grass landing strip that had a lovely hill with 50’ trees in the direction of flight. Put full flaps in to be able to survey the field and make sure there were no animals on the runway. Went full power and tried to start climbing. The airplane DID NOT want to climb. Stall warning horn is absolutely singing the song of its people and I’m just getting closer and closer to this hill and its trees. I realize I never retracted any of my flaps and the sheer amount of drag and conditions for the day did not allow for a climb. I retracted them incrementally and the airplane started to climb immediately. I left that strip behind and went back to my home airfield. I didn’t fly for a month after because it rattled me so much.
At a towered airport, I was doing some solo pattern work and had just rotated off the runway and was climbing out. The tower on the field advises me about a company Cessna that had departed in front of me and for me to enter a downwind once past their turn out. I did and turned a standard left pattern. Right as I am about to turn my left downwind, I finally see the glint of sunlight off of a Tomahawks windscreen and immediately initiate a max performance climb. I am able to make out the two occupants in the aircraft as we narrowly miss. Once we get resettled and everyone is on the ground, the debate game goes on and it is concluded that everyone had a hand in the miscommunication and no action was taken.
Instructing a student one time and we are on short final at maybe 300 feet off the ground. Student has the controls and is on speed but has no wind gust factor applied for the conditions of the day. As I am about to mention said problem, the headwind completely dies off and the stall warning horn screams. My student panics and starts to pull the nose up which would have made us absolutely stall and there would not have been enough altitude or time to recover. Luckily, I grabbed the controls and applied full power before the aircraft could stall before initiating the go around and discussing what happened with my student. Student how is very aware of his airspeed on final.
Story 8. Swiming 5 miles seems possible. Exausting, but in life or death struggle, it sound possible. So why chose suicide over trying to live ? It is not like they were in the middle of an ocean with huge waves. It is oil calm water.
After listening to the Black Box Down podcast, I’m convinced there’s no way to down a commercial airplane without a comedy of errors. Little Sesnas, however 😬
It did save his life
Hey UnderSprarked, this is very random, but might I suggest having your pfp floating around instead of jittering? i think it would suit your way of talking better!
rejected takeoff cuz after 50% power, 2000ish RPM i think, it drastically began losing power. pulled to Idle and taxied to the ramp. IDK ecactly the issue but thats all i got
For the guy flying with his knees, it must have been a small two-seater airplane, think close to old ww1 biplanes, so he could reach out of the window with his "improvised spear" to cut the banner without letting go of the flight stick with his legs
Story #1 reminded me of delta 191
13:04 you could even say the acceleration was... _UnderSparked_
For story 15, a plane did have to do an emergency landing at O'hare airport due to a goose
not me getting a commercial for pilot school right before this video 🤭
I'm sorry to break itto you people, but the O'Hare story is very likely to be fake.
1) A captain wouldn't crack jokes after an emergency landing or shake everyone's hand on the way out. In incidents like that you want to evacuate the plane as fast as possible, specially since there's a risk of fire. The captain and the crew would probably be trying to get people off as fast as possible on the slides. If a captain acted like the one on this flight after an emergency landing, they would absolutely get chewed by the authorities afterwards.
2) An airport wouldn't casually announce an impending emergency landing/diversion on their PA system. If anything the flight would show as delayed or cancelled. Nobody would like to freak the people at the airport out until the emergency is fully resolved. Also, people at the airport have more important jobs to do while handling an emergency than starting unnecessary panics at the terminal.
3) This is a MAJOR incident. We are talking about dual engine failure resulting in an emergency belly landing including a runway excursion with zero fatalities. Aircraft incidents are heavily documented and this would be among the best known ones if it happened. The only instance I found of an airliner belly landing in O'Hare happened in 1988 and involves a 727 and none of the details match this story.
I think I figured out a plausible way it's real.
There's a separate incident at O'Hare which occurred a year earlier than the one you listed where a 767 struck a goose on takeoff, but made a perfect landing. When I say a year earlier, I mean exactly. Both occurred on August 27th of their respective years. I could see some confusion arising from this.
Otherwise the TWA 727 flight matches pretty well, diverting from Midway to make a belly landing at O'Hare, as long as this 12-year-old had a layover at St Louis on the return trip from Tampa.
@@noname117spore so you are saying she was in two separate aircraft incidents and merged the memories in her head somehow?
I mean the lack of a recorded incident is not the only thing wrong with that. An airport wouldn't announce a plane is being diverted because of an emergency 45 minutes before it lands. A Captain wouldn't shake the passengers hands during an evacuation. He would either be busy running checklists or otherwise aiding in the evacuation of the aircraft, specially since a belly landing carries a significant fire risk and you want the passengers to be as clear off the plane as humanly possible. The sort of behaviour displayed by the captain in her story is inappropriate and he would've gotten the chewing of his life and then gotten fired. In the original post she claims the incident happened in 97, the 727 incident happened 9 years early.
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Oh shit, didn't realize she mentioned '97.
Yeah, probably complete fiction then, based off of 2 earlier true stories that she combined but didn't personally experience.
@@noname117spore it doesn't show in the video. I went to the original post be cause reddit being reddit, probably someone had already called her out. She stuck to her story, denied it was the 727 incident and then promised to share the NTSB report. But never did
@ Yeah so she's bullshitting then.
Doing 140 knts at 19 feet is craaaazyyyy
19:46 In some cultures, passengers will applaud the pilot for every successful takeoff and landing. As culture becomes more global, this tradition is dying off, but last I checked it's still fairly common in Eastern Europe/Russia. I understand the passengers applauded Captain Sullenberger when he emergency landed US Airways flight 1549 in the Hudson River.
Pilots who were actually screwed: 💀
When United breaks guitars. The song is fire though