Andor doesn’t feel like Star Wars bc Star Wars isn’t the focus. The force, Jedi, Clones, everything we’re familiar with isn’t the focus of Andor. Andor is about Andor and the ‘Star Wars’ aspect of Star Wars takes a backseat. It exists to the view of Andor and how it relates to him.
it felt more war like than any of the movies, accept maybe rots intro. I think the only reason it feels slightly off is that there's not Jedi or force, but everything else from starters is there
It's the combination of a different gritty and dark tone that separates it from the traditional hopeful feeling of the franchise. The lack of the Star Wars bells and whistles like diverse aliens, unique lingo, and other such set dressing. And the lack of any Force user or any relation to the Jedi or Sith. Missing 1 of these things is fine, but without any of it, it feels like some other generic sci fi.
@@oliveragag8576 I would disagree with you about the hopeful part, since some of the best instalments of this franchise WERE, in fact, dark and gritty: ESB, RotS, KotOR II. You are probably right about aliens, though. There could have been more of them.
Star Wars movies are at the end of the day Hollywood blockbusters that aim for spectacle over all else. Thus all 9 Skywalker Saga films focus on the idea of space wizards fighting each other with light sticks and magic. Worldbuilding has always been a part of it as well just never taking center stage. Andor can as it is a 9-episode show and does it wonderfully. It shows the lives of ordinary people surviving in a galaxy shaped by greater powers than themselves. It also takes place during the "dark times" not many jedi running around so idk what you wanted.
While it does not feel as starwarsy as other media, thats becuase Star wars is generaly show on a grand scale with very little attention given to characters and more attention given to entites as a whole such as the rebels or the empire or the jedi. This is where andor shines, it shows how the people in the rebelion have to live to start something that will end up taking down the empire and what characters have who dont have the force or dont have plot armour have to go through on a daily basis to survive. When we get star wars show that feels very Starwarsy we get somthing like the book of boba fett or kenobi which instead of creating new things they just relay only on what we know about the character and I think we all see how those shows turned out. Just very uninspired and too afraid to add new things to the universe
Holy shit is this take bad. It basically sounds like "blah blah not enough pew pew, therefore not feelin like my star wars" most of the time, while completely missing how this show expands the setting in more subtle ways.
@@AshanBhatoa absolutely everything felt like Star Wars, but in deeper ways, like it is usually portrayed in books and better written games. I mean "Knights of the old Republic 2" asks philosophical questions in universe, most casual fans would fall asleep listening to, but still they expanded the universe imensely.
Nope. It's a filler inside a filler upon a filler. Almost nothing is happening and the pacing is horrendous. Phone Booth(2002), Man from Earth(2007), Oppenheimer - just a few examples of movies with zero to no action scenes, it's just people talking almost all the time. Yet there is tension and story progression. There is none of that in Andor. Just a movie stretched to 12 episodes. Or a mini-series stretched to proper 12 episode format. We don't need "pew pew pew" to have good pacing and story.
Sorry but I just don't understand at all why you keep saying it's not "star wars" the world is so well thought-out and the characters are excellent. Actors are giving it their all and I love it. Andor is different but I don't want all Star Wars projects to be so similar. I mean you're ok to have your own opinion but also your Andor reviews have totally lost me
@@kierano8390 the funniest part is that Andor has the best and most accurate portrayal of the Galactic Empire in the whole franchise. It correctly uses the imperial army as the main force instead of shoving stormtroopers everywhere, and gives us a glimpse on how the ISB actually operates and what they do. It portrays the Empire’s greed, cruelty, and heavy use of slave labor. They are legit bad people in a realistic way instead of cartoonishly destroying whole systems because the emperor died.
@@AccurateThings I'd argue punitive responses to star systems in wake of the Emperor's death, is essentially aptly Imperial. Andor primarily focuses on the ISB.
I agree with most things you said, but if I had a choice to choose between more Andor or more Mandalorian or Kenobi, I would pick Andor for sure. My main complaint is also that it didn’t feel and look like established Star Wars half the time.
I agree with him. It's a filler inside a filler upon a filler. Almost nothing is happening and the pacing is horrendous. Phone Booth(2002), Man from Earth(2007), Oppenheimer - just a few examples of movies with zero to no action scenes, it's just people talking almost all the time. Yet there is tension and story progression. There is none of that in Andor. Just a movie stretched to 12 episodes. Or a mini-series stretched to proper 12 episode format.
@@TabalugaDragon I just realized you had phone booth listed in there, which is funny to me. Additionally, just because you took a couple AP Lit classes does not make your subjective opinion any more valid. I don’t acknowledge arguments of authority when that is all the other person has to go off of.
I was hoping for more concrete and specific description of the "less star wars" feel. Bacause that is a opinion that comes from many directions. I quite agree that it basically isnt even a star wars. For example Mandalorian IS star wars very much so. That said I loved it, seen it twice and its so fucking delicios to watch. And I looove the different view of the rebelion, very similar to rebelion in R1. Andor was amazing for me.
Agreed. It's a filler inside a filler upon a filler. Almost nothing is happening and the pacing is horrendous. Phone Booth(2002), Man from Earth(2007), Oppenheimer - just a few examples of movies with zero to no action scenes, it's just people talking almost all the time. Yet there is tension and story progression. There is none of that in Andor. Just a movie stretched to 12 episodes. Or a mini-series stretched to proper 12 episode format. Andor is the most boring show I've ever watched.
Andor is a good sci-fi series, but it doesn't feel SW. The style, the costumes, the music, the characters, the tone,..., everything is different. That does not detract from the quality of the series. But, for that, Battlestar Galactica or any other series like that is worth the same to me.
@landobando4937 No. There are better products like Clone Wars or Mandalorian. And I don't even know to what extent it can be considered Star Wars. Just a generic sci-fi series.
@landobando4937 That is why it is the most successful series on Disney +, while Andor is the least watched. Your opinion is subjective, the data is not.
@landobando4937 Yes, but it has nothing to do with what we are talking about here. Look, there are dozens of products with the quality of Andor, House of Dragon, Dahmer, Better Call Saul, etc... If you want a quality series you have a choice. But how many Star Wars series are there? Andor is the only SW product that doesn't feel like one. The series is well aware of that and seeks to get as far away from the franchise as possible, Its a good series but a bad Star Wars. So I can't consider it a good star wars series.
@@davidmr11able So Star Wars can't be more than the Jedi, force, and the other things it was first introduced with? This show expands upon the lore of Star Wars in such an interesting way. Star Wars needed to try something new and it did and it worked so well. It sounds like you don't want Star Wars expand or change. You probably can't even explain why it doesn't feel like Star Wars outside of the fact that it doesn't have Jedi or the force which sure that's a really cool aspect of Star Wars but there's so much more to it.
@@davidmr11able Literally look up Andor reviews on UA-cam or anywhere and you'll see a ton of content all praising the show. These are the same people who have criticized pretty much everything Disney has produced. So, there's a better chance our opinions are objective and yours is not. Also the amount of people who watch a show don't determine its quality. It's more telling that everyone who has seen the show loves it which you can see by looking at reputable review sites and here on UA-cam.
Andor is boring and is not Star Wars. Great review. George Lucas created Star Wars as his take on swashbuckling, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon type hero with a thousand faces stories. Who is the hero of Andor? I can’t root for Cassian who coldly killed those two security officers at the beginning then never gives us anything to make us care about him. What is the general quest of this story? Where is this taking us? It doesn’t need to be all “pew pew slash kaboom!!!”that’s not what we’re saying. Yes, Andor has great visuals and quality, but it’s like taking “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory” then doing a high quality documentary on the production of flour that’s used for the candy, and then telling Willy Wonka fans they aren’t educated enough to also enjoy “Flour Factory”.
I 100% think Andor is well produced and visually amazing but they’ve gotta give us a hero to root for and an interesting story. Look at Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones for examples of excellent storytelling
@@timparker533 It's just a nihilistic take on life under The Empire, Pre Galactic Civil War. The reason you don't have a hero to root for, is due to terrible writing and the other reason being, looking at the overall galaxy under a nihilistic lens, theres really no such thing as heros or villains from that point of view, everything from that outlook just resides in a grey area. And the nihilism just doesn't mix with an IP thats supposed to mix Space Fantasy/Opera with Old Western style stories. It links up more with melodramatic generic science fiction, which is what Andor actually is.
The first season is all about getting Andor to a place where he wants to fight for the greater good. For most of the series he is only fighting for himself which is why Andor isn't the only main character you have characters like Luthen, Mon Mothma, and even Syrill who are all fighting for a cause they believe in. Also if Andor has such terrible writing then why are there countless videos about it saying otherwise and very few if any criticizing it, and these are the same people who have criticized pretty much everything Disney Star Wars has produced.
@@austinmoss4134 Because people on YT will make or cheerlead videos depending on whatever gets them clicks on here believe it or not. If they think criticizing a Star Wars show is gonna get them clicks, regardless if its actually entertaining or not, they'll trash the show. If they think it's gonna get them ratioed for trashing a show, most will either talk the show up as the best thing ever or they'll just skip talking about it altogether. The exceptions to Andor for that are channels like Knights of Melvin and Raging Rhyno, channels that don't care if they get trashed for being ratioed And believe it or not, just because you get clicks, on a YT vid, doesn't mean its all organic traffic either some of its bots. In fact a lot of it is. Channel's like Mauler on the other hand will cheerlead Andor, because they generally don't like, Disney's general take on action sequences, or storytelling. They didn't like the Sequel Trilogy, because of the plotholes and plot contrivences. Which are valid opinions, or they'll take shots at the stereotypical strong female lead these days, but word around it trying to not make themselves seem sexist. And the thing of it is, channels like that have been given undue credit, as respectable voices of opinion on criticizing the IP. Because Andor proves that they really don't know how to tell or recognize an interesting story. If Tony Gilroy had been tasked with writing and filming Episode IV and have it released in 1977, it would have been forgotten as a watered down Brand X Bladerunner on a budget. Because the general SW audience doesn't connect with nihilism. And it's not the vibe you want in a rebellion setting inside a Space Fantasy Opera. Andor's ratings prove it. A director that earned his undue credit, and has gotten completely overrated, sitting on the shoulders of Garreth Edwards. Andor is liked by the same YT channels that thought the Mandolorian Season 3 Episode 3 was the best episode of the season. The fans disagreed and rightfully so. It's easy to rip on the sequel trilogy, its easy to rip on Fett, Kenobi, and Ashoka, Mando even. And look good doing it, its easy. But it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. Andor is terrible stortytelling. And the only positive thing I can say about it. Is that besides retconning its own character. By the time you get to the last episode, the story hasn't changed at all, even for Andor himself. He completely dropped looking for his sister, (A common thing dropping plots in the show) was groomed by an old man, who dragged him into a master plan by a rebel cell inspired by Lenin's Tifosi bank robbery and rocking AK's. Got arrested for strolling down a beach Broke out of prison. And ended up back on the planet he started at. The only difference being there was a bunch of Imperial Stormtroopers. All because Andor is so important, apparently. And nothing changed, not even the lore, no Protocaol droids, no Astromechs, aliens are under repped too. Even on the worlds with low Imperial presence. I can go on and on.
@@tw19771 You can’t say for sure that’s what’s happening here. Could this be happening, sure. Also even if it was there are far too many videos praising Andor for this to be the case for every single one. Also if you’ve watched some of the other YT videos that praise Andor I think you’ll see that a lot of them are better made reviews than this. He rarely gave evidence for his points he only stated how he felt and that was basically it and a majority of his complaints come down to one thing that being “It isn’t Star Wars” without even explaining what that means or what can be considered Star Wars. It isn't only reviewed well on UA-cam. Every reputable review site has given it outstanding reviews so don't act like you know better than a large majority of fans and critics. It's fine if you didn't like the show, but you can't say the show is objectively bad when you haven't really explained why especially when so many other people have explained why it's so good. You don’t know if this would’ve been more successful or not than the OT. There’s no way of knowing. Also one of the many reasons Andor works so well is because it expands upon what George Lucas and so many other people have established. Why is it terrible storytelling? How did the show retcon Andor’s character? They didn’t drop any plot points, and any we didn’t get answers to we will probably see in season 2. Also most plot points had a conclusion. Most iconic Star Wars blasters are based on real world weapons. Han Solo’s blaster is based off a very popular pistol from World War 2. So there’s no problem with a blaster being based off an AK. The Imperials believed he had a very important piece of equipment with him which he did for a time. There was also a lot more to why the Imperials took over that planet. Other droids were showcased and protocol droids and astromech droids don’t have to appear in everything Star Wars. There not being enough aliens is a valid point but such a minor complaint that says nothing about the quality of its story and taking into consideration this show looks way better than every live action Disney Star Wars show I’ll take better sets over more aliens any day. You pretty much just listed plot points without explaining why they were bad.
I agree Andorr took the fun out of Star Wars. Set ups that doesn't pay off. What happen to Andor for looking for his sister? What happen to the heist money? What was the prison break and how did it add to the story? What up with the storyline with Mon Momotha bad family problems why do we need to know that.. I'm out. Andor does not add to the Star Wars lore.
1. Andor is still looking for his sister do they'll probably end up answering that later ( a lot is still unknown about him that's the point ) 2. Heist money goes to the upcoming rebellion, I don't see how it's mysterious or anything 3. The prison was used as world building but hasn't been used YET (I would look forward to the repercussions it has in the next seasons) 4. Mon Mothma's family issues are both worldbuilding AND will be a primer to the switch to open rebellion in future seasons. You could add "that random corpo guard" and his arc as pointless for now You could do the same with "that lady getting tortured by sound" But the answers would stay similar The main critique I can make is basically 1. The absence of exotic creatures and other stuff, everything is very human 2. The fact the series goes very slow and builds up a lot for future seasons
Yes, it is not star wars. I forgets the main rules of making star wars - make everything look both alien and lived-in and do not use mondane objects from real life. It has noodles, paper, AK-47(if they realy wanteda soviet/russian blaster, they should have used some kind of rare and cool/intresting weapon). Star Wars should look absolutely unlike real life, and it is where this show fails.
The blasters of the original trilogy were made from surplus WW2 weapons such as the MG-42, Sterling, and STG-44. Many things in Star Wars are things that exist or look similar in our own world, Naboo (specifically Theed) looks like a place that already exists on earth. These are just weird criticisms for this show, things that aren’t even special about Andor. Instead of criticizing the story, pacing, and characters, all I hear from people is how bricks and screws and no Glups makes it a bad sw show.
@@AccurateThings the blasters were made from weapons that looked obscure and weird already. Naboo was altered enough to fit star wars, and no too-real elements of the place were shown(no thrones or paintings). But this still was a bad decision of Lucas, and one of the most boring locations in the prequels. The story of andor is good, but it looks too much like modern England.
@@AlexanderThePerfect the MG-42 (DLT-19) and the Lewis Gun (T-21) are not obscure weapons tho, they are some of the most well known WW1 and WW2 weapons and were barely changed in their appearance.
@@AccurateThings by "obscure" i meant strange-looking. If this word has other menings i am not familiar with, i apologise for not knowing the languege well enough and confusing you.
Andor doesn’t feel like Star Wars bc Star Wars isn’t the focus. The force, Jedi, Clones, everything we’re familiar with isn’t the focus of Andor. Andor is about Andor and the ‘Star Wars’ aspect of Star Wars takes a backseat. It exists to the view of Andor and how it relates to him.
it felt more war like than any of the movies, accept maybe rots intro. I think the only reason it feels slightly off is that there's not Jedi or force, but everything else from starters is there
That is exactly why I hate it.
The fact that we don’t get an action scene every episode with TIE-fighters and stormtroopers doesn’t make it less “Star Wars”
It does actually.
It's the combination of a different gritty and dark tone that separates it from the traditional hopeful feeling of the franchise. The lack of the Star Wars bells and whistles like diverse aliens, unique lingo, and other such set dressing. And the lack of any Force user or any relation to the Jedi or Sith. Missing 1 of these things is fine, but without any of it, it feels like some other generic sci fi.
@@oliveragag8576 I would disagree with you about the hopeful part, since some of the best instalments of this franchise WERE, in fact, dark and gritty: ESB, RotS, KotOR II. You are probably right about aliens, though. There could have been more of them.
@@Althaen As I said. You can be missing some of those things and still feel like Star Wars, but Andor was missing all of it.
Andor was great!
It's good sci fi. Not good Star Wars.
@@oliveragag8576 why can’t it be both?
@@Althaen Andor wasn't good Star Wars.
Amazing. Everything you just said was wrong.
the prison episode sucked too, so he was wrong about that part, yeah
Star Wars movies are at the end of the day Hollywood blockbusters that aim for spectacle over all else. Thus all 9 Skywalker Saga films focus on the idea of space wizards fighting each other with light sticks and magic. Worldbuilding has always been a part of it as well just never taking center stage. Andor can as it is a 9-episode show and does it wonderfully. It shows the lives of ordinary people surviving in a galaxy shaped by greater powers than themselves. It also takes place during the "dark times" not many jedi running around so idk what you wanted.
While it does not feel as starwarsy as other media, thats becuase Star wars is generaly show on a grand scale with very little attention given to characters and more attention given to entites as a whole such as the rebels or the empire or the jedi.
This is where andor shines, it shows how the people in the rebelion have to live to start something that will end up taking down the empire and what characters have who dont have the force or dont have plot armour have to go through on a daily basis to survive.
When we get star wars show that feels very Starwarsy we get somthing like the book of boba fett or kenobi which instead of creating new things they just relay only on what we know about the character and I think we all see how those shows turned out. Just very uninspired and too afraid to add new things to the universe
Holy shit is this take bad. It basically sounds like "blah blah not enough pew pew, therefore not feelin like my star wars" most of the time, while completely missing how this show expands the setting in more subtle ways.
The Narkina 5 prison revolt is quintessential Star Wars.
@@AshanBhatoa absolutely everything felt like Star Wars, but in deeper ways, like it is usually portrayed in books and better written games.
I mean "Knights of the old Republic 2" asks philosophical questions in universe, most casual fans would fall asleep listening to, but still they expanded the universe imensely.
That is not at all what he said. But it did erase the magic from Star wars. You can't pretend the world never had dragons and wizards.
Nope. It's a filler inside a filler upon a filler. Almost nothing is happening and the pacing is horrendous.
Phone Booth(2002), Man from Earth(2007), Oppenheimer - just a few examples of movies with zero to no action scenes, it's just people talking almost all the time. Yet there is tension and story progression. There is none of that in Andor. Just a movie stretched to 12 episodes. Or a mini-series stretched to proper 12 episode format. We don't need "pew pew pew" to have good pacing and story.
Sorry but I just don't understand at all why you keep saying it's not "star wars" the world is so well thought-out and the characters are excellent. Actors are giving it their all and I love it. Andor is different but I don't want all Star Wars projects to be so similar. I mean you're ok to have your own opinion but also your Andor reviews have totally lost me
Its not Star Wars.
@@mr.peevyshow1914 I guess andor was dealing with an ISB from a different empire then?
@@kierano8390 the funniest part is that Andor has the best and most accurate portrayal of the Galactic Empire in the whole franchise. It correctly uses the imperial army as the main force instead of shoving stormtroopers everywhere, and gives us a glimpse on how the ISB actually operates and what they do. It portrays the Empire’s greed, cruelty, and heavy use of slave labor. They are legit bad people in a realistic way instead of cartoonishly destroying whole systems because the emperor died.
@@AccurateThings I'd argue punitive responses to star systems in wake of the Emperor's death, is essentially aptly Imperial. Andor primarily focuses on the ISB.
I agree with most things you said, but if I had a choice to choose between more Andor or more Mandalorian or Kenobi, I would pick Andor for sure. My main complaint is also that it didn’t feel and look like established Star Wars half the time.
Good lord these comments 💀
I bet you loved the sequel trilogy didn't you
Nope, it was terrible and I have other videos on that topic too
Yeah, me and the rest of the comments seem to disagree. And if that makes you mad, stay mad.
I agree with him. It's a filler inside a filler upon a filler. Almost nothing is happening and the pacing is horrendous.
Phone Booth(2002), Man from Earth(2007), Oppenheimer - just a few examples of movies with zero to no action scenes, it's just people talking almost all the time. Yet there is tension and story progression. There is none of that in Andor. Just a movie stretched to 12 episodes. Or a mini-series stretched to proper 12 episode format.
@@TabalugaDragon feel free to believe whatever you want to.
@@DylanSmith-kc2gc Ok. As a writer who's been studying writing for over 5 years, I will.
@@TabalugaDragon cool.
@@TabalugaDragon I just realized you had phone booth listed in there, which is funny to me. Additionally, just because you took a couple AP Lit classes does not make your subjective opinion any more valid. I don’t acknowledge arguments of authority when that is all the other person has to go off of.
Can you do a 1hour edit 8f best moment for andor please
I was hoping for more concrete and specific description of the "less star wars" feel. Bacause that is a opinion that comes from many directions.
I quite agree that it basically isnt even a star wars. For example Mandalorian IS star wars very much so.
That said I loved it, seen it twice and its so fucking delicios to watch. And I looove the different view of the rebelion, very similar to rebelion in R1. Andor was amazing for me.
I agree its not starwars its actually good.
Agreed. It's a filler inside a filler upon a filler. Almost nothing is happening and the pacing is horrendous.
Phone Booth(2002), Man from Earth(2007), Oppenheimer - just a few examples of movies with zero to no action scenes, it's just people talking almost all the time. Yet there is tension and story progression. There is none of that in Andor. Just a movie stretched to 12 episodes. Or a mini-series stretched to proper 12 episode format. Andor is the most boring show I've ever watched.
Andor is a good sci-fi series, but it doesn't feel SW. The style, the costumes, the music, the characters, the tone,..., everything is different. That does not detract from the quality of the series. But, for that, Battlestar Galactica or any other series like that is worth the same to me.
@landobando4937 No. There are better products like Clone Wars or Mandalorian. And I don't even know to what extent it can be considered Star Wars. Just a generic sci-fi series.
@landobando4937 That is why it is the most successful series on Disney +, while Andor is the least watched. Your opinion is subjective, the data is not.
@landobando4937 Yes, but it has nothing to do with what we are talking about here. Look, there are dozens of products with the quality of Andor, House of Dragon, Dahmer, Better Call Saul, etc... If you want a quality series you have a choice. But how many Star Wars series are there? Andor is the only SW product that doesn't feel like one. The series is well aware of that and seeks to get as far away from the franchise as possible, Its a good series but a bad Star Wars. So I can't consider it a good star wars series.
@@davidmr11able So Star Wars can't be more than the Jedi, force, and the other things it was first introduced with? This show expands upon the lore of Star Wars in such an interesting way. Star Wars needed to try something new and it did and it worked so well. It sounds like you don't want Star Wars expand or change. You probably can't even explain why it doesn't feel like Star Wars outside of the fact that it doesn't have Jedi or the force which sure that's a really cool aspect of Star Wars but there's so much more to it.
@@davidmr11able Literally look up Andor reviews on UA-cam or anywhere and you'll see a ton of content all praising the show. These are the same people who have criticized pretty much everything Disney has produced. So, there's a better chance our opinions are objective and yours is not. Also the amount of people who watch a show don't determine its quality. It's more telling that everyone who has seen the show loves it which you can see by looking at reputable review sites and here on UA-cam.
Andor is boring and is not Star Wars. Great review.
George Lucas created Star Wars as his take on swashbuckling, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon type hero with a thousand faces stories.
Who is the hero of Andor? I can’t root for Cassian who coldly killed those two security officers at the beginning then never gives us anything to make us care about him.
What is the general quest of this story? Where is this taking us?
It doesn’t need to be all “pew pew slash kaboom!!!”that’s not what we’re saying.
Yes, Andor has great visuals and quality, but it’s like taking “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory” then doing a high quality documentary on the production of flour that’s used for the candy, and then telling Willy Wonka fans they aren’t educated enough to also enjoy “Flour Factory”.
I 100% think Andor is well produced and visually amazing but they’ve gotta give us a hero to root for and an interesting story. Look at Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones for examples of excellent storytelling
@@timparker533 It's just a nihilistic take on life under The Empire, Pre Galactic Civil War. The reason you don't have a hero to root for, is due to terrible writing and the other reason being, looking at the overall galaxy under a nihilistic lens, theres really no such thing as heros or villains from that point of view, everything from that outlook just resides in a grey area. And the nihilism just doesn't mix with an IP thats supposed to mix Space Fantasy/Opera with Old Western style stories. It links up more with melodramatic generic science fiction, which is what Andor actually is.
The first season is all about getting Andor to a place where he wants to fight for the greater good. For most of the series he is only fighting for himself which is why Andor isn't the only main character you have characters like Luthen, Mon Mothma, and even Syrill who are all fighting for a cause they believe in. Also if Andor has such terrible writing then why are there countless videos about it saying otherwise and very few if any criticizing it, and these are the same people who have criticized pretty much everything Disney Star Wars has produced.
@@austinmoss4134 Because people on YT will make or cheerlead videos depending on whatever gets them clicks on here believe it or not. If they think criticizing a Star Wars show is gonna get them clicks, regardless if its actually entertaining or not, they'll trash the show. If they think it's gonna get them ratioed for trashing a show, most will either talk the show up as the best thing ever or they'll just skip talking about it altogether. The exceptions to Andor for that are channels like Knights of Melvin and Raging Rhyno, channels that don't care if they get trashed for being ratioed
And believe it or not, just because you get clicks, on a YT vid, doesn't mean its all organic traffic either some of its bots. In fact a lot of it is.
Channel's like Mauler on the other hand will cheerlead Andor, because they generally don't like, Disney's general take on action sequences, or storytelling. They didn't like the Sequel Trilogy, because of the plotholes and plot contrivences. Which are valid opinions, or they'll take shots at the stereotypical strong female lead these days, but word around it trying to not make themselves seem sexist. And the thing of it is, channels like that have been given undue credit, as respectable voices of opinion on criticizing the IP.
Because Andor proves that they really don't know how to tell or recognize an interesting story. If Tony Gilroy had been tasked with writing and filming Episode IV and have it released in 1977, it would have been forgotten as a watered down Brand X Bladerunner on a budget. Because the general SW audience doesn't connect with nihilism. And it's not the vibe you want in a rebellion setting inside a Space Fantasy Opera. Andor's ratings prove it.
A director that earned his undue credit, and has gotten completely overrated, sitting on the shoulders of Garreth Edwards.
Andor is liked by the same YT channels that thought the Mandolorian Season 3 Episode 3 was the best episode of the season.
The fans disagreed and rightfully so.
It's easy to rip on the sequel trilogy, its easy to rip on Fett, Kenobi, and Ashoka, Mando even. And look good doing it, its easy.
But it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about.
Andor is terrible stortytelling. And the only positive thing I can say about it. Is that besides retconning its own character. By the time you get to the last episode, the story hasn't changed at all, even for Andor himself.
He completely dropped looking for his sister, (A common thing dropping plots in the show) was groomed by an old man, who dragged him into a master plan by a rebel cell inspired by Lenin's Tifosi bank robbery and rocking AK's. Got arrested for strolling down a beach Broke out of prison.
And ended up back on the planet he started at. The only difference being there was a bunch of Imperial Stormtroopers. All because Andor is so important, apparently.
And nothing changed, not even the lore, no Protocaol droids, no Astromechs, aliens are under repped too. Even on the worlds with low Imperial presence.
I can go on and on.
@@tw19771 You can’t say for sure that’s what’s happening here. Could this be happening, sure. Also even if it was there are far too many videos praising Andor for this to be the case for every single one. Also if you’ve watched some of the other YT videos that praise Andor I think you’ll see that a lot of them are better made reviews than this. He rarely gave evidence for his points he only stated how he felt and that was basically it and a majority of his complaints come down to one thing that being “It isn’t Star Wars” without even explaining what that means or what can be considered Star Wars. It isn't only reviewed well on UA-cam. Every reputable review site has given it outstanding reviews so don't act like you know better than a large majority of fans and critics. It's fine if you didn't like the show, but you can't say the show is objectively bad when you haven't really explained why especially when so many other people have explained why it's so good.
You don’t know if this would’ve been more successful or not than the OT. There’s no way of knowing. Also one of the many reasons Andor works so well is because it expands upon what George Lucas and so many other people have established.
Why is it terrible storytelling? How did the show retcon Andor’s character? They didn’t drop any plot points, and any we didn’t get answers to we will probably see in season 2. Also most plot points had a conclusion. Most iconic Star Wars blasters are based on real world weapons. Han Solo’s blaster is based off a very popular pistol from World War 2. So there’s no problem with a blaster being based off an AK. The Imperials believed he had a very important piece of equipment with him which he did for a time. There was also a lot more to why the Imperials took over that planet. Other droids were showcased and protocol droids and astromech droids don’t have to appear in everything Star Wars. There not being enough aliens is a valid point but such a minor complaint that says nothing about the quality of its story and taking into consideration this show looks way better than every live action Disney Star Wars show I’ll take better sets over more aliens any day. You pretty much just listed plot points without explaining why they were bad.
I also didn't like this show.
I agree Andorr took the fun out of Star Wars. Set ups that doesn't pay off. What happen to Andor for looking for his sister? What happen to the heist money? What was the prison break and how did it add to the story? What up with the storyline with Mon Momotha bad family problems why do we need to know that.. I'm out. Andor does not add to the Star Wars lore.
A show doesn’t need to add something to the lore in order to be good
1. Andor is still looking for his sister do they'll probably end up answering that later ( a lot is still unknown about him that's the point )
2. Heist money goes to the upcoming rebellion, I don't see how it's mysterious or anything
3. The prison was used as world building but hasn't been used YET (I would look forward to the repercussions it has in the next seasons)
4. Mon Mothma's family issues are both worldbuilding AND will be a primer to the switch to open rebellion in future seasons.
You could add "that random corpo guard" and his arc as pointless for now
You could do the same with "that lady getting tortured by sound"
But the answers would stay similar
The main critique I can make is basically 1. The absence of exotic creatures and other stuff, everything is very human
2. The fact the series goes very slow and builds up a lot for future seasons
Yes, it is not star wars. I forgets the main rules of making star wars - make everything look both alien and lived-in and do not use mondane objects from real life. It has noodles, paper, AK-47(if they realy wanteda soviet/russian blaster, they should have used some kind of rare and cool/intresting weapon). Star Wars should look absolutely unlike real life, and it is where this show fails.
The blasters of the original trilogy were made from surplus WW2 weapons such as the MG-42, Sterling, and STG-44. Many things in Star Wars are things that exist or look similar in our own world, Naboo (specifically Theed) looks like a place that already exists on earth. These are just weird criticisms for this show, things that aren’t even special about Andor. Instead of criticizing the story, pacing, and characters, all I hear from people is how bricks and screws and no Glups makes it a bad sw show.
@@AccurateThings the blasters were made from weapons that looked obscure and weird already. Naboo was altered enough to fit star wars, and no too-real elements of the place were shown(no thrones or paintings). But this still was a bad decision of Lucas, and one of the most boring locations in the prequels. The story of andor is good, but it looks too much like modern England.
@@AlexanderThePerfect the MG-42 (DLT-19) and the Lewis Gun (T-21) are not obscure weapons tho, they are some of the most well known WW1 and WW2 weapons and were barely changed in their appearance.
@@AccurateThings by "obscure" i meant strange-looking. If this word has other menings i am not familiar with, i apologise for not knowing the languege well enough and confusing you.