Nice comparison. It's basically what I also "feel" having changed to TrueRC x-air mkii patches, Lumenier Stubbies and Rush Cherry antennas on the quad (both also TrueRC design as far as I know).
No, I haven't tried them personally, but I hear they are great antennas. I use the TrueRC antennas on the goggles, and on the quad side I typically use the older Caddx Vista antennas over the Walksnail ones.
I just got the dji x air 2's (one connector per patch) and the stubbies. My plan is to switch the top/right antenna with the front/right as I heard the RX is on top. I will then run both patches to the two front with stubbies on top. I'm wondering if the v1 DJI patch like you use here is better then the x air 2's for v2 dji's? I was pretty confident I got a better set then the single patches sold by true rc right now but I saw rotor riot use the same style you did here and now I'm kind of worried I should have got the dji v1 style you have here?
the v2 is basically the same but a smaller form factor. Both perform the same on Dji V1 and V2, I just had the V1's since they came out, and have not had to change to the v2 style.
@Rogue FPV Good to know. I wasn't sure if the transmitter signals were being supported somehow with the one I had vs just video. Can't wait to test the WS goggles and VRX with upgraded antennas because they are horrible range/penetration wise compared to my DJI v2s even when they were stock antennas.
Nice work with this, great to see the comparisons. In your opinion, does it matter how you hook up the antennas? I have an Avatar HD and bought 2 patch antennas and 2 stubbies and I'm wondering if it's better to put both stubbies on the top connectors or one stubby on the top and the other on the bottom? Any idea?
If you have the original Avatar HD Goggles, the Antenna that transmits ( Where you want to connect your Patch ) is the Top Right antenna when the screens are facing you. If you have the new Goggles X, the Transmit antenna moved to the Top Left Side. Personally, I use one TrueRC Dual Patch on the Top and Bottom on the Right side, and Omnis on the Left Top and Bottom. Hope this info helps! More than anything, upgrading the goggle antennas will give you better performance over the stock antennas.
@@Rogue_FPV Thanks for your response! One more question, how important is it that there is a patch antenna on the transmitter, say top left? I have the Goggles X and bought the X-Air Mk II Pair. Not entirely sure how important it is for the goggles to transmit info to the vtx versus focusing entirely on receiving the signal to the goggles. Hope my question is clear!
@@BlisterEye it’s not critical that the patch antenna be on the transmit antenna, but it’s better.. the goggles transmit their one telemetry back and forth to and from the vtx. I think MADsTech does a better job of explaining why in one of his vids.
nice video but it's too bad you didnt made in the end a video where you also change the VTX antennas with true rc singularity. i mean if the google wlaksnails antennas are crappy why would the VTX be good ones ?
Great antenna test...The upper RH antenna port is a transmit only port. Just so you know. Gave the best signal penetration on the last test as expected using that patch...😳😏😏😏😏🇬🇧 The other 3 ports are RX only..
@@Rogue_FPV Yes, I guess you can screw on the appropriate antenna depending on what your doing of course...Makes more sense to put it on the front port I guess, more suited for a patch...🤔😏😏
Nice comparison, but I still don't know is it worth to spend $100 for TrueRC antennas setup to replace stock antennas in my Walksnail VTX and VRX setup.
Thanks for the video! When I'm flying my MBS only goes to 25 instead of the 50 that you are showing. Do you know how I can change this? I went through the settings and didn't see it.
You just need to go in the goggle menu with a quad plugged in and change the transmission from Standard to High. That changes the Bitrate from 25mb to 50mb.
@@jesseday6090 changing to 50mb will improve the quality of the video slightly, but the penetration will get a tiny bit better, but stay the same for the most part. To increase penetration - change antennas on goggles from stock - increase output power on the airunit. I find that for me 500-700mw is more than adequate for freestyle, park flying, and midrange cruising.
@@jesseday6090 there is, but above 700mw you don’t really get any benefit of increased range or penetration with the current firmware. I have the 1200mw applied, but I just noticed a LOT more heat buildup with the same range and penetration of 700mw.
@@Rogue_FPV The reason why I'm asking is because from experience with analog, VAS are really reliable for me and right now my local store has a stock of it. But I'm thorn with TrueRC X-Air and VAS.
I honestly feel that the vrx will get a big benefit with aftermarket antennas as well. I have some buddies that are expecting their vtx’s soon, so we will see 👀👀 😁
I'm flying WS so this is interesting to me. I'm wondering if you got better performance on the last set where you have a patch on the retransmit antenna where the rest had stubbies on the retransmit.
I do not feel this is the case per-say... I don't feel at this range, even with low power used that will have as much of an effect as it would at "real" range +.5mi where the impact would be more beneficial. I mean, yes, the patch on the re-transmit logically should give better performance, but I feel the real gains were had because of better antenna tuning on the TrueRC. This weekend, I will try to test your theory and report back 🙌
Nice comparison. It's basically what I also "feel" having changed to TrueRC x-air mkii patches, Lumenier Stubbies and Rush Cherry antennas on the quad (both also TrueRC design as far as I know).
Been using Truerc for 3 years, I won’t trust my gear to anything else 💪🏻
Nice to see some data driven comparisons. 👏👏
Thanks bro! I ran this test 3x for each antenna configuration and got similar results to what is posted every time…
Exellent mate, have you tried the flyfish osprey stubbies ? Or the ufl flyfish osprey on the craft?
No, I haven't tried them personally, but I hear they are great antennas. I use the TrueRC antennas on the goggles, and on the quad side I typically use the older Caddx Vista antennas over the Walksnail ones.
I just got the dji x air 2's (one connector per patch) and the stubbies. My plan is to switch the top/right antenna with the front/right as I heard the RX is on top. I will then run both patches to the two front with stubbies on top. I'm wondering if the v1 DJI patch like you use here is better then the x air 2's for v2 dji's? I was pretty confident I got a better set then the single patches sold by true rc right now but I saw rotor riot use the same style you did here and now I'm kind of worried I should have got the dji v1 style you have here?
the v2 is basically the same but a smaller form factor. Both perform the same on Dji V1 and V2, I just had the V1's since they came out, and have not had to change to the v2 style.
@Rogue FPV Good to know. I wasn't sure if the transmitter signals were being supported somehow with the one I had vs just video. Can't wait to test the WS goggles and VRX with upgraded antennas because they are horrible range/penetration wise compared to my DJI v2s even when they were stock antennas.
Nice work with this, great to see the comparisons. In your opinion, does it matter how you hook up the antennas? I have an Avatar HD and bought 2 patch antennas and 2 stubbies and I'm wondering if it's better to put both stubbies on the top connectors or one stubby on the top and the other on the bottom? Any idea?
If you have the original Avatar HD Goggles, the Antenna that transmits ( Where you want to connect your Patch ) is the Top Right antenna when the screens are facing you. If you have the new Goggles X, the Transmit antenna moved to the Top Left Side.
Personally, I use one TrueRC Dual Patch on the Top and Bottom on the Right side, and Omnis on the Left Top and Bottom.
Hope this info helps!
More than anything, upgrading the goggle antennas will give you better performance over the stock antennas.
@@Rogue_FPV Thanks for your response! One more question, how important is it that there is a patch antenna on the transmitter, say top left? I have the Goggles X and bought the X-Air Mk II Pair. Not entirely sure how important it is for the goggles to transmit info to the vtx versus focusing entirely on receiving the signal to the goggles. Hope my question is clear!
@@BlisterEye it’s not critical that the patch antenna be on the transmit antenna, but it’s better.. the goggles transmit their one telemetry back and forth to and from the vtx.
I think MADsTech does a better job of explaining why in one of his vids.
Hi mate, have you seen the Walksnail VRX Crosshair™ Xtreme Mini Mod, and have you herd anything about it?
Nope, this is the first time i've heard anyone mention it. Gonna look into it now.
@@Rogue_FPV it looks brilliant!
nice video but it's too bad you didnt made in the end a video where you also change the VTX antennas with true rc singularity.
i mean if the google wlaksnails antennas are crappy why would the VTX be good ones ?
I don’t have any singularity
Great antenna test...The upper RH antenna port is a transmit only port. Just so you know. Gave the best signal penetration on the last test as expected using that patch...😳😏😏😏😏🇬🇧 The other 3 ports are RX only..
Yes, I moved my ufl internally the day I got the goggles..
@@Rogue_FPV Yes, I'm not sure having a directional on the transmit port is a good idea unless your range flying of course...😳😳😏🇬🇧
@@EnglishTurbines I fly mid-long range, that’s why I opted to move the ufl so that my directional patch gets the benifits at range.
@@Rogue_FPV Yes, I guess you can screw on the appropriate antenna depending on what your doing of course...Makes more sense to put it on the front port I guess, more suited for a patch...🤔😏😏
@@EnglishTurbines yep, if I fly freestyle I usually use 4 Omnis anyway. When I fly for range I’m using a patch 👍🏻
Great info!!! Thanks bro this is a much needed test.
Thanks!!! More good stuff coming soon! 💪🏻🔥💪🏻🔥
@@Rogue_FPV Can’t wait 🤩
Nice comparison, but I still don't know is it worth to spend $100 for TrueRC antennas setup to replace stock antennas in my Walksnail VTX and VRX setup.
It’s like putting nice rims on a car not needed too much but it does do something in your brain
Great video!!! Been very curious about this data!! Thanks again. Great stuff!! 🥳💯👏🏽
Thank you!!! I was surprised how much of an impact different antennas had on the system 📡📶
simple test but very instructive ... thank you 👍👍👍 happyFlying
Thanks for the video! When I'm flying my MBS only goes to 25 instead of the 50 that you are showing. Do you know how I can change this? I went through the settings and didn't see it.
You just need to go in the goggle menu with a quad plugged in and change the transmission from Standard to High. That changes the Bitrate from 25mb to 50mb.
@@Rogue_FPV thank you! And that will improve my penetration is that correct?
@@jesseday6090 changing to 50mb will improve the quality of the video slightly, but the penetration will get a tiny bit better, but stay the same for the most part. To increase penetration - change antennas on goggles from stock - increase output power on the airunit. I find that for me 500-700mw is more than adequate for freestyle, park flying, and midrange cruising.
@@Rogue_FPV awesome thank you! I saw somewhere that there's a 1200mw hack too
@@jesseday6090 there is, but above 700mw you don’t really get any benefit of increased range or penetration with the current firmware. I have the 1200mw applied, but I just noticed a LOT more heat buildup with the same range and penetration of 700mw.
Nice testing mate. Have you tried also VAS Dual Crosshair Extreme?
No I haven’t, but VAS does make some really good antennas, and does really thorough testing. Can’t go wrong with VAS, personally I just prefer TrueRc.
@@Rogue_FPV The reason why I'm asking is because from experience with analog, VAS are really reliable for me and right now my local store has a stock of it. But I'm thorn with TrueRC X-Air and VAS.
@@LakayFPV you can’t go wrong with either brand. Both are miles better than the stock goggle antennas / stock patches. 💪🏻
Great video! I wonder how much this will apply to the VRX. We will see! Subbed
I honestly feel that the vrx will get a big benefit with aftermarket antennas as well. I have some buddies that are expecting their vtx’s soon, so we will see 👀👀 😁
I'm flying WS so this is interesting to me. I'm wondering if you got better performance on the last set where you have a patch on the retransmit antenna where the rest had stubbies on the retransmit.
I do not feel this is the case per-say... I don't feel at this range, even with low power used that will have as much of an effect as it would at "real" range +.5mi where the impact would be more beneficial.
I mean, yes, the patch on the re-transmit logically should give better performance, but I feel the real gains were had because of better antenna tuning on the TrueRC.
This weekend, I will try to test your theory and report back 🙌
Very noice certainly pays to get some decent antennas no matter what the setup
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what was the best setup
TrueRc stubbies and TrueRc x-air patch.
Thanks bro this is really helpfull
TrueRc is the way to go for max performance! 💪🏻
Awesome content bro 😁👍
Thank you!! Appreciate your support! 🙌🏻💪🏻
I'm pretty sure you had better penetration because you put the TX of the goggle on a patch on the last test ( & had a patch on one of the RX )
I move my ufl internally.
I’m pretty sure I had better penetration because of better tuned antennas…
@@Rogue_FPV i ain't disputing that at all, I was just sayin I think it's part of the secret sauce bro, specifying yu also had a patch on RX... xx
@@Rogue_FPV well the walksnail antennas were better from your unscientiffic testing if you look at your own results if you did it objectively anyway
@@420247paulits too early in the morning for math…. Fly whatever you want guy.
thanks for the info bro :)
Thank you for your support, and great vids as well!! Always make me smile 😁
@@Rogue_FPV no need to thank me bro !
@@SeansFpvandRC I still will 😂🙌🏻
Highest delay reached would have been a very important number to report…
A more telling and consistent metric is the average of the delay over multiple passes, which is what I reported for each antenna. 👍🏻👍🏻