All roads lead to court for MK, ousted Khumalo

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  • Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
  • The MK Party has filed an application with the Constitutional Court, insisting that the declaration of the 2024 general election results was premature. Meanwhile, ousted party leader Jabulani Khumalo has filed an interdict of his own at the Western Cape High Court. Dr Ongama Mtimka weighs in.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 168

  • @mphothulo7929
    @mphothulo7929 4 місяці тому +4

    Soon you will hear all analyst saying I didn't see it coming,Zuma knows how to do things, people will get heartache medication soon

  • @unathimichaelmxaku8105
    @unathimichaelmxaku8105 4 місяці тому +6

    This is what happens when you promote unqualified people to higher positions,from grade 5 to president bendilindeleni.Oxam bayaphaxulana ngoku.

    • @notre2024
      @notre2024 4 місяці тому

      What are the “qualifications” required to become a president, and is it possible for someone to attain the position without meeting these criteria?

    • @nduduzosithole1584
      @nduduzosithole1584 4 місяці тому

      Dont waste your breath on this one, they are from EC and we all know what those did on election day, they are slow those ones ​@notre2024

  • @ambrosek6784
    @ambrosek6784 4 місяці тому +20

    Pray you are correct that they don’t have any evidence, otherwise if they do! There will be some unravelling of historic proportions.

    • @kingsizetutor2173
      @kingsizetutor2173 4 місяці тому +2

      He didn't say , they don't have evidence. He said they said they have evidence, but they have not submitted to Electoral Court. It might be a question of procedure.

  • @darlingtonmachilar6745
    @darlingtonmachilar6745 4 місяці тому +3

    The topic of the year, the MK party

  • @Frasweiler
    @Frasweiler 4 місяці тому +4

    This is the beginning of the end ...lets watch as drama unfolds

  • @madeitthroughentertainment1658
    @madeitthroughentertainment1658 4 місяці тому +20

    Some Zulus are really smart, but some are commoners following sheepishly behind important particular other people.

    • @senzomemela1311
      @senzomemela1311 4 місяці тому +8

      The Zulu nation knows who their King is,... unlike you they love and respect who they are...please work on your own self esteem, instead....

    • @madeitthroughentertainment1658
      @madeitthroughentertainment1658 4 місяці тому +5

      @@senzomemela1311 You know nothing about how humans came to be. The immoral behavior of letting loyalty to stand in the way of truth is disgusting.

    • @MaryMemela-e8d
      @MaryMemela-e8d 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@senzomemela1311I agree with you Gambu

    • @toppykgothatso3306
      @toppykgothatso3306 4 місяці тому +3

      Tribal politics are a no no.Its not Zulus it's the mk members

    • @NtadoButhelezi
      @NtadoButhelezi 4 місяці тому

      Disingenuous comment. I am umZulu but this stupid comment does not disturb peace of mind.

  • @mphothulo7929
    @mphothulo7929 4 місяці тому +1

    Zuma is not an emotional politician who will run to media to express his views,soon people will surprised

  • @zuzemoyo7696
    @zuzemoyo7696 4 місяці тому +11

    The WEF is really doing its job in FURTHERANCE of WESTERN Capitalist interests. 😅😅

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH 4 місяці тому +2

      WEF didn't vote. We did!

  • @mdupablolukhele8183
    @mdupablolukhele8183 4 місяці тому +16

    How stupid is JK to think he will lead people who don't like nd don't want him

    • @TSG0195
      @TSG0195 4 місяці тому

      Mental illness is real

  • @chrissmusiyiwa9108
    @chrissmusiyiwa9108 4 місяці тому +3

    Media please tell please the truth

  • @MusaMusa-j4h
    @MusaMusa-j4h 4 місяці тому +3

    Rsmaphosa and Zondo started all this now its time for Zuma and ulwela izinto eziyiqiniso

  • @Nesamag
    @Nesamag 4 місяці тому

    Great framing and breakdown of heuristics by Dr Mtimka.
    Balanced, comprehensive and articulate!

  • @lufunobuda6386
    @lufunobuda6386 4 місяці тому +14

    Objections were submitted to the IEC legal team a day before the results were announced by Africa Restoration Alliance (ARA)

  • @phiwayinkosindabandaba7473
    @phiwayinkosindabandaba7473 4 місяці тому +2

    You can't accept everything that is put infrant of you MK is fighting the wrong which was done by IEC

  • @samkunene7521
    @samkunene7521 4 місяці тому +4

    How sure that those complaints were frivolous?

  • @matthewm9949
    @matthewm9949 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for your insight ,Dr. Mtimka

  • @cephastshuma2480
    @cephastshuma2480 4 місяці тому +14

    Media come on try and be neutral just once just once nje please Awubantu kanti kadliswani?

    • @dnb_brett_breezy
      @dnb_brett_breezy 4 місяці тому

      Remember who owns these media companies and the so called experts /professors are sellouts

    • @sanelisiwedlamini7142
      @sanelisiwedlamini7142 4 місяці тому

      They are captured they are told to what story to cover and how to cover it they are basically useless if you really want to hear the truth

  • @kk35-nif
    @kk35-nif 4 місяці тому +8

    Fight for your legacy mr khumalo

    • @bandilemoet9404
      @bandilemoet9404 4 місяці тому +1

      What legacy, since when did you knkw about him?

    • @LUMAVUSO
      @LUMAVUSO 4 місяці тому

      😂😂😂

    • @simphiwemngadi2815
      @simphiwemngadi2815 4 місяці тому

      What legacy really coz he is known no where just last year he was walking the streets with sandals not knowing whether it summer or winter. That guy knows nothing about politics, go watch his podcast and then tell me if he even knows what a constitution of the party is

    • @xman1533
      @xman1533 4 місяці тому

      Problems Problems at MK this reminds me of Cope Shilowa and Lekota😂😂

  • @fredlenz4743
    @fredlenz4743 4 місяці тому +28

    Zuma wants a civil war, solely as a personal vendetta against the ANC who removed him as president.

    • @deb1358
      @deb1358 4 місяці тому +12

      Judging from the July 2021 unrests,I have to agree with you. He just never wants to be held accountable

    • @makay3287
      @makay3287 4 місяці тому

      At least one person sees that this wicked man wants a civil war! He is a textbook narcissist and wants to destroy SA definitely because of a personal vendetta for being removed and for the incarceration!

    • @mawazafela6070
      @mawazafela6070 4 місяці тому +11

      100% ... it actually has to do with his legal problems ...

    • @Tsebomjiks9789
      @Tsebomjiks9789 4 місяці тому +6

      Not true... no one wishes or will deliberately set this country to a civil war. I disagree. The constitution allows parties to complain why are they not following what is stated in the constitution? Then you blame MKP for practicing what is internationally called the most-democratic constitution in the world. So let us test if this is true.

    • @NicolasNdlangas
      @NicolasNdlangas 4 місяці тому

      Why don't you say IEC is starting a civil war?? Remember black people are open with their mind. Surly Zuma is a right man whites handlers tried their best to destroy hìm but they had never succed, Mk is còming with a strategy that you will not understand.

  • @User-.-_007-s
    @User-.-_007-s 4 місяці тому +3

    They are giving zulus a bad name

    • @boetr7014
      @boetr7014 4 місяці тому

      How so? Every citizen has a constitutional right to seek legal recourse from the courts, which is what the MK is doing. So how exactly is that legal act giving Zulus a bad name? Im seriously baffled by your sweeping statement.

  • @manyananihlwatika726
    @manyananihlwatika726 4 місяці тому +2

    Jabulani was used like a condom the very same way Zuma used Malema to remove Mbeki... Be careful of Zuma his not smart however intelligent.. The outcome can reverse on the leader whom is favoured ... Look out Citizens

  • @ndhlovupizo-eu7sf
    @ndhlovupizo-eu7sf 4 місяці тому

    We must all be per

  • @TSG0195
    @TSG0195 4 місяці тому +10

    We're dying to have him (Khumalo) address us anywhere - the invitation is open. The MKP supporters are ready to attend his address anywhere, anytime.

    • @LUMAVUSO
      @LUMAVUSO 4 місяці тому +1

      He must invite us ASAP😂

  • @qalas7327
    @qalas7327 4 місяці тому +2

    Can Khumalo call a meeting of his followers ? I want to see how many will attend. Who is he leading?

  • @CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq
    @CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq 4 місяці тому

    Always..Yes Always fighting for position 🥸🤮

  • @diatilenthoba8262
    @diatilenthoba8262 4 місяці тому +16

    Zuma's wives n children are enjoying good life ,lots of money while their poor to very very poor supporters are suffering,some are killing each other, Zuma's hatred for Ramaphosa is on another level...very evil,he doesn't think of the country n the nation.

    • @LuckyThwala-mx5gy
      @LuckyThwala-mx5gy 4 місяці тому

      Wat u meaning ur mind is right or my be

    • @jiwwo1799
      @jiwwo1799 4 місяці тому +1

      What u r saying doesn't make sense..Mkp hs all the professionals that u may think of..nd siyaziyela thina kuNxamalala, akasibizi..simply because we r sick n tired of your Anc under Ramaphosa 🤮

    • @karelgericke9172
      @karelgericke9172 4 місяці тому

      So very very true in what you're saying. Which all mk supporters see it the way you see it and think and care more about there own kids and family.By backing mk the poor will not benefit.

    • @michaelmbetse340
      @michaelmbetse340 4 місяці тому

      Zondo's hatred of Zuma costs more than 300 people's lifes in 2021. Its scary, cause this is how wars starts 😢

    • @karelgericke9172
      @karelgericke9172 4 місяці тому +4

      @@michaelmbetse340 So what you're saying a judge is not supposed to judge a criminal with all evidences pointing at Zuma, a judge must rather find a criminal not guilty to prevent a criminal from destroying a countries economical resources, and a judge is not supposed to issue a warrant of an arrest for someone the was summons to appear in court.So a summons to appear in court must only be valid for all other citizens other than Zuma.🤣🤣🤣🤣.You argument suck.s brother..

  • @MusehanaH
    @MusehanaH 4 місяці тому +1

    It is going to be a bumpy 5-years for KZN with MK fighting internally for one man's ego. When is the elective conference btw? COPE 2.0 loading 😂

  • @janvusi1407
    @janvusi1407 4 місяці тому +1

    JZ is just trying his luck, and should war start only 3 province will be affected MP, GP and mostly KZN other provinces we are safe and I think MK should not push up to that stage.

  • @Cerebro-i
    @Cerebro-i 4 місяці тому +9

    I knew it that they will be faction within MK the most worst part is there is no structures... Fighting for position in parliament.. I believe MK is advised by grade r toddlers with immature kiddish decisions

    • @xman1533
      @xman1533 4 місяці тому

      😂 it's cursed by ANC ancestors just like cope

  • @kogiereddy2938
    @kogiereddy2938 4 місяці тому

    Don't use the masses to fight your battles, we need a better life

  • @TopNewsPassage
    @TopNewsPassage 4 місяці тому +6

    one thing about MK They know what they are doing. Don't be confused guys

  • @chrissmusiyiwa9108
    @chrissmusiyiwa9108 4 місяці тому +4

    You all don't understand politics than zuma

  • @chrissmusiyiwa9108
    @chrissmusiyiwa9108 4 місяці тому +3

    Those people are smarter than all of you failed to remove anc

  • @kk35-nif
    @kk35-nif 4 місяці тому +1

    Fair analysis, he always play victims from 2006

  • @Draginsezluvnlite-jp8sv
    @Draginsezluvnlite-jp8sv 4 місяці тому +1

    ABsolutely spot on - Zuma is KING of perpetual victimhood!! This is straight out of the Zuma playbook. So who is paying all these legal fees hmm?

  • @ThembaTsela
    @ThembaTsela 4 місяці тому +4

    Zuma just doesn't want to be part of Electing Ramaphosa.
    The evidence is frivolous, otherwise it would be in a Court of Law.
    MK, must attend next session after their application is dismissed.
    What MK is doing is messing about, there will be no re-voting.

    • @stsithole1608
      @stsithole1608 4 місяці тому

      That mentality it's what keep us falling, the mk is showing us as Africans that we can't just settle under bases of unlawful activities

    • @berenecewessels6543
      @berenecewessels6543 4 місяці тому +3

      @ThembaTsela Well said&Agree 1000% No Re Voting

    • @gideonmthembu8693
      @gideonmthembu8693 4 місяці тому +1

      If it does occur, it will be after a 3 yr period. The constitution says that. It's a wonder who is this advocate advising MKP cos that's a 101 of mzansi constitutional law and interpretation .

  • @MusaMusa-j4h
    @MusaMusa-j4h 4 місяці тому

    People must complain about Ramaposa uye obulsle ANC

  • @johnfelix8569
    @johnfelix8569 4 місяці тому

    There are inside feuds already on MK that's why they don't want to attend parliament and it is issues about who is going to parliament in terms of positions. Zuma's daughter is now the party leader. So it's not about so sincere the votes but also about Khumalo's court outcomes which create a concern and problem.

  • @kk35-nif
    @kk35-nif 4 місяці тому +5

    Zuma will lose this one

  • @thandazilezulu-skakana3772
    @thandazilezulu-skakana3772 4 місяці тому

    How true is that allegedly, Can they do that? Really?

  • @samkunene7521
    @samkunene7521 4 місяці тому +2

    Electoral court was approached first...

  • @ndhlovupizo-eu7sf
    @ndhlovupizo-eu7sf 4 місяці тому

    Peppertual peppertual is an analyst

  • @MusaMusa-j4h
    @MusaMusa-j4h 4 місяці тому

    shame

  • @lee7973
    @lee7973 4 місяці тому

    We are tired of JZ and his old fashioned way...

  • @mphothulo7929
    @mphothulo7929 4 місяці тому

    ANC must be aware by now that COPE system won't work with MK,Khumalo will regret for being Shilowa

  • @samanthaholm9634
    @samanthaholm9634 4 місяці тому +6

    Did they fix the blown up street in Lillian Ngoyi/Bree street? 😂😂 still closed. The poor businesses in that street. Let MK assist in that.

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH 4 місяці тому +2

      Wasn't Zuma president for 9 years...and in those years, what did he do for KZN? Nada!

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr 4 місяці тому

      Money is all eaten. It will remain like that

  • @tshepisolebusa1296
    @tshepisolebusa1296 4 місяці тому +1

    Nina kulohlelo lenu ninakane noZuma nje

  • @notre2024
    @notre2024 4 місяці тому

    At times, we encounter political analyses from journalists that appear unbalanced and biased. Why should people be demonised for following a legal process to express their dissatisfaction?

  • @fezekasongane8875
    @fezekasongane8875 4 місяці тому

    MK like for pres Zuma is playing victim… I hope it’s followers are able to discern and realise that they are being used here. in my view MK had a very low view of it’s followers…the leaders of MK do not respect its followers if.

  • @samkunene7521
    @samkunene7521 4 місяці тому +2

    Do you think MK don't have lawyers?

  • @SadikDiwan-lf3dq
    @SadikDiwan-lf3dq 4 місяці тому +5

    It was not only MK who made complaints but over 21 parties. U are so biased on your analysis

  • @basedontruestoree
    @basedontruestoree 4 місяці тому

    hawu he was ousted now

  • @babhekilejila5109
    @babhekilejila5109 4 місяці тому

    Mmmmm lomuntu unekani ala abangeli abatwana bakhe ukuthi bauamdinga

  • @MusaMusa-j4h
    @MusaMusa-j4h 4 місяці тому

    Sobona khona Friday abanye bayolhsla 😂😂

  • @moosmckenzie5972
    @moosmckenzie5972 4 місяці тому +1

    Zuma must know if he push for war or something else against the press he will loose the Beatles

    • @sifisodube4686
      @sifisodube4686 4 місяці тому

      It’s really dangerous are country it’s heading to disaster just because of Zuma

  • @AndyBester-f5l
    @AndyBester-f5l 4 місяці тому +1

    Sick man fighting to stop anc. Funny he fully recovered and work hard at party future get out of jail free card pretend to be sick our law sucks

  • @GodfreyMashele-t1i
    @GodfreyMashele-t1i 4 місяці тому +2

    Viva jabulani from tshwane region we gonna win

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 4 місяці тому +2

    It’s so funny how all South Africans we forgot about what Zuma did in are country. Yet we busy praising him now because he hate Ramaphosa then he want to involved us

  • @ThamsanqaNhlengethwa
    @ThamsanqaNhlengethwa 4 місяці тому

    Kuthinyiweke lokhu ayikho lento ayihlaziyayo😢

  • @thethreeamigos1065
    @thethreeamigos1065 4 місяці тому +2

    We have Africs Trump who want to bring distructin in this country

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 4 місяці тому

    Are country it’s heading to disaster it’s shame South Africa it’s finished

  • @bistorzzless3346
    @bistorzzless3346 4 місяці тому

    Sangene wena ambogunda isihleke sentshe Lena egcwele ihlathi😂😂😂😂

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 4 місяці тому

    This whole thing is dangerous Zuma what’s to destroy are country

  • @lindiwengidi8404
    @lindiwengidi8404 4 місяці тому +2

    You're saying this because,Ramaphosaz family and all these ANC ministers, their families are not enjoying a good life ,it's only zumaz family,is that what you're trying to say?

  • @simphiwetom9509
    @simphiwetom9509 4 місяці тому

    Ziphi iingcibi zaluse lamakhwenkwe? Umkhonto mawuqale kuwo lamakhwenkwe asindwa ngamajwabu amade anukayo.

  • @cloudstrife8791
    @cloudstrife8791 4 місяці тому +6

    Zuma is gonna fail, 58MPS will be staying outside losing their chance meaning zumas family and friends all will be cut from seats and that Khumalo will be the only MK member who will attend and get a spot. Comedy on its way. Cant wait for friday MK the new EFF sona group

  • @samkunene7521
    @samkunene7521 4 місяці тому +4

    Zuma is mk...Ramaphosa is selling out.

  • @thulaniblushaba6476
    @thulaniblushaba6476 4 місяці тому +1

    Musani ukulahlekisa JK uzophatha bani abamazi abantu lomuntu

  • @emmamanuel1845
    @emmamanuel1845 4 місяці тому +3

    This station is not only biased but also delusional. The MK party is united, and Mr. Kumalo is merely a clown without a mandate. Regardless of how the media spins it, there is no faction within the MK party; Kumalo failed in his attempt to create one. Meanwhile, the ANC is far more divided.

  • @whitemangugulezwemdunge386
    @whitemangugulezwemdunge386 4 місяці тому +5

    VIVA MK VIVA

  • @MusaMusa-j4h
    @MusaMusa-j4h 4 місяці тому

    Sasithi kuzoba ngcono emva kokhetho maningi amaqembu akhona kodwa selohu if akusiye u Zuma nithi MK amanye nikhuluma j nini ngawo

  • @apostlegoodman6797
    @apostlegoodman6797 4 місяці тому

    😢Sad moments TV presenters and educated analysists. You're talking beside the truth, MK registered their dissatisfaction prior the announcement of the elections. 🎉.They MK President also tried to advise ICE to use their 7 days allowance and deal with the complaints, instead they rushed.. And here we are, in this mess.
    Media, you frame such dissatisfaction as though, it was an MK thang, yet most 60 political parties are aggrieved by the recent polls.
    May God help you heal our country, and stop bringing decisive analysis and pro instigatory commentors.
    You are not an ideal instrument for the country, you are unpatriotic 😢and propel people to 😢infighting. My prayer is that God will protect our South Africans from where you are pushing them in Jesus name ❤🎉

  • @LuckyNzimande-w6c
    @LuckyNzimande-w6c 4 місяці тому +1

    Ramaphosa killed ANC

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 4 місяці тому

    Ongama mtika his not accurate when he speaks

  • @chrissmusiyiwa9108
    @chrissmusiyiwa9108 4 місяці тому +2

    Zuma is the only man take anc down so please sit down

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH 4 місяці тому

      The ANC took the ANC down...The vote turnout was less than 60%. 40% chose to not vote for the ANC but they didn't vote the MK so that Zuma took down the ANC is a misplaced self-aggrandizement

  • @darklace2393
    @darklace2393 4 місяці тому

    Wajika jika Mthondo

  • @kulaniful
    @kulaniful 4 місяці тому +1

    There's probably people with different views to JZ but cant raise it so they use JK as a vuvuzela

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH 4 місяці тому

      ...as a vuvuzela! Mara wena 😂

  • @Ummo2850
    @Ummo2850 4 місяці тому

    Please stop mispronunciation of interdict. ( in-dite)

  • @simphiwemngadi2815
    @simphiwemngadi2815 4 місяці тому

    The question: Do they allow the party to present it case and evidence, definitely not, they just dismissing them and that where the sytem is wrong. It not a secrete that other parties had logged similar allegations against the IEC and again they dismissed all of them without looking through to their issues.

  • @SadikDiwan-lf3dq
    @SadikDiwan-lf3dq 4 місяці тому +3

    This analyst wants to be seen being on the side of the whites. We are watching u

  • @MusaMusa-j4h
    @MusaMusa-j4h 4 місяці тому

    Abantu ngeke babone lomuntu ngoba vele nezinkinga zethu azifani Njengoba sekuqala kuvela konke ubugebengu obebenzeka ngaphakathi kwa gogo sekuxoshwa abanye abazihlomulele sbanye basasele Ilo Zuma oqalile wavukuza kuze kuvele obala sbsningi bamangele nokuthi kanti sidansela isiginci sika sathane lokhu simangele izinto ezenzekayo kanti sesiphiliswa sishayelwe amademon imithetho efuna kwenzeke intando yawo

  • @chrissmusiyiwa9108
    @chrissmusiyiwa9108 4 місяці тому

    Please be fair 🙏 media stop support wrong things

  • @sihletngcobo
    @sihletngcobo 4 місяці тому +1

    Nonsense commentator

  • @teekay4643
    @teekay4643 4 місяці тому

    Zanu Pf script from Khumalo

  • @Annekeandrew
    @Annekeandrew 4 місяці тому

    Please people. We are talking about ruling a country, not a game of Monopoly. Please be responsible. Zuma's ego is hurt and that is all. He should retire to his 165 million home paid by us 'tax payers 'and enjoy his old age.

  • @darlingtonmachilar6745
    @darlingtonmachilar6745 4 місяці тому

    Since when is ongama a legal expert?? White monopoly capital can make some fools think they’re making sense when they’re actually talking rubbish

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH 4 місяці тому

      What are you on about? He didn't pronounce on anything legal 🤔