John Gotti did the same thing, and never associated with anyone that gave the government information . And if he was alive when John Junior gave his 302 I’m sure he would’ve disowned him immediately to say the least. Lol
For real man. Vlad also has the gall to say Joey was defensive for not answering questions that can get him mixed up with Federal Agents and cops. He's got some nerve.
“They changed their lives after the f*cking handcuffs were on” 😂… facts, every time a dude snitches he starts talking about community 😂 boy you was a DEMON 3 months ago 😂
@@EvroyalIt’s not that they don’t change. It’s the reason. It matters to know that some people will only change when society forces them to. This behavior is similar to viruses or bacteria. No brain of their own.
Joey accuses everyone of being a rat, to an obsessive level. Saw a guys talking that was doing time with him and hes said every other guy that walked by, joey would claim was a rat. Hes starting to sound like someone projecting.
He's interviewing grown men. Surely as a grown man you see the bait and act accordingly? Is Vlad responsible for grown men acting out of line and engaging in petty disputes between each other?
@@BigA678 pod caster … being a “G” are two different things. What I meant by it was he didn’t exchange words with that guy. Unlike all those rappers/thugs that go on Adam22 and just talk smack over social media.. he wasn’t about that. A real one or some one who’s been in that life don’t do that crap. Everything calm.. everything quiet 🤫 handle business when the lights go out. No need to incriminate yourself to look cool on social media.
I never get this response from any of these Rats they go run Hide where guys like us arent there then say 'Say it to my face' As if we have been running away from them to avoid telling the truth
Yea he’s not saying that at all because he’s a celebrity and celebrities w real influence get protected by feds yea not at all 🙄 you people need to stop being so naive and delusional
@0:39 'They 'changed' their life. That's what they say. Yeah, they changed their lives when the fkn handcuffs went on 'em....' LOL!!! Merlino is a SAVAGE!!!!
@@staysolid19no he's not. I mean his dad didn't snitch on anyone but to continue to see your sons who are known rats basically makes you a rat by association.
I don’t think he’s wrong about the “found god” part. I’ve always thought Franzese specifically plays that up. Like when he first came out, he was always making sure to have his crucifix pendant & his Bible verse tattoos showing on camera 😂
I like the way Michael carries himself. He’s changed but you can sense he still has that mob vibe type respect. Like the social media response let’s speak man to man.
Have you noticed Michael doesn’t deny he’s a rat any longer since there’s proof out there? Now it’s “say it to my face” 😂 Everybody knows Joey was and is solid in the streets and would 1000% say it to his face hahah.
@@andros8821 Watch the video on UA-cam of him testifying in open court and telling the court who was the boss of the Colombo's, what his position was and his fathers. Also the show he was interviewed for where he openly says he's a cooperator. All things I bet he thinks because they were done in the 90's wouldn't make it onto UA-cam and they have.
Joey never called his dad a rat. He called HIM a rat and said that his dad was no better than a rat for not disowning him for cooperating with law enforcement.
Don't fall for it, Michael.They just want views. Stay focused,you're a brand all by yourself. Keep leading people to Christ with your redemption story. 👊🙏
Joey have been in and out of prison for bids and never said a peep. Both he and Sonny are standup guys for doing they time like men and not cooperating. Cant say the same for Mike.
I don't think Vlad comprehends that Joey comes from an era when the mob whacked rats left and right. Joey included. The only reason he's on UA-cam is to vent about rats. Lol. He has zero reason to sit down with Franzese.
You want to know the true story people are just dumb. Michale Franzese even after he left he still provide money got by books to andrew russo and his dad who at that time were in life and he always have a connection to politics that why the mob in NY and Chicago big guys not to worry about mike and he can go where he like to go what you exoect that guy is a fucking earner of life and making money don't forget he have a large platform you tube and making money and also have political connection And yes The mob in NY and inner Philly mob circles decided to banish joey merlino was starting in 2019 when he was jail .And in 2023 after joey accept almost 2.5 millions by unknown to start a postcast and he did and the mob in new york and chicago got upset what he doing and the latter was now situation
Sonny Franzese didnt do 50 years, did only about half, he got sentenced to this but was released very early but over that had to be brought back in multiple times because he continued to do crimes.
Mr. Franzese, don’t fall for Vlads bs. You give great insight into a world people are obviously curious about. Your father’s reputation is impeccable. Please don’t engage in any desperate and reckless publicity stunts orchestrated by Vlad.
Why doesn't Vlad ever ask Franzese about that Ray-p charge that's on Sonny's record? Or about Sonny Imp_Reg_Nating a female who was one year older than 15?
Nah, Joey is the real thing he's not a government bootlicker turned born again Christian making money off the crimes of others by telling everything they know to UA-cam interviewers.
Idk the other dude can’t he’s still active he himself would probably get hurt if he didn’t do anything to honor the mafia at least that’s what Tony soprano would do 😂
You're doing right Michael ... I too refuse to engage people on or off social media. If they want to come at me like a human being with a back bone, I invite it ... never in a hostile or argumentative manner. But I will defend my integrity or position, and you responded correctly instead of acting like a thug. Well done sir ... In my opinion you responded as a Christian man.
In that life Joey was a real street dude who stood on business 🔫 behind it. Mike was in the life but he was a big earner💵 he never had o get his hands dirty
Why is Vlad surprised that an active mafia boss was more defensive than the other ex mob guys he's interviewed? He must've known Joey was gonna act like he'd never even heard the word mafia before 😂
Joey Merlino is not afraid of Franzese lmao. Franzese still ducks admitting he was a cooperating witness when there's a whole federal 302 agreement and paperwork for everyone to see for themselves.
Franzese was a cooperating witness but essentially gave the Feds nothing. He played a masterful game of chess to leave the life but didn't put anyone in jail and that is a FACT if you search the records. In fact, I will go as far as saying that Franzese was a F'n genius on how he played this and yes he violated Omerta but he didn't put anyone in jail so he's a rat but not a full blown rat if that makes sense.
@@donh1572 Doesn't need to be anything of substance; he shouldn't be talking at all if he's "about that life" because talking is what is known as being a rat.
@@pappy374this is true technically. The fact that theirs even paperwork proves that there was some sort of cooperation. Now at the end of the day who cares, I'm a fan of Franzese's work and glad he is here on the tube!
Sonny was not a rat in any sense of the word but Mike and his brother were and thats Joey problem with the father in that life he was suppose to disown his sons at the least or take them out at the worst and he did neither.
Not in vlads interview but on his own channel , he said because he was friendly with Michael after he left the life that’s just the same as ratting so therefore he called his dad a rat
I hope I have someone to defend me when I'm gone. These days you can barely get out the door before you're so-called friends are stabbing you in the back.
Sonny Franzese didn't get out of prison 'til.he was 101 years old. I think it's safe to say he kept it Omerta.
Facts
Joey's dad got 45 years, died in prison, never told on anyone
John Gotti did the same thing, and never associated with anyone that gave the government information . And if he was alive when John Junior gave his 302 I’m sure he would’ve disowned him immediately to say the least. Lol
he didnt keep it omerta he was still in contact with his son that ratted on him omerta dont talk to rats
@Vdanman bro no matter how gangster you are your going to talk to your son . He kept the code did his time and didn't turn on the organization
Vlad love stirring up beef
For real man. Vlad also has the gall to say Joey was defensive for not answering questions that can get him mixed up with Federal Agents and cops. He's got some nerve.
He is Like an advanced No Jumper
What is he supposed to ignore what Joey said about him?
You guys just look for stuff to complain about. If you don't like it go watch something else.
It's his favourite hobby.
Mike is a snitch and gangsters hate snitches
They already had beef.
Giving him a chance to respond is a good thing.
“I assume you watched it.”
“Nope”
lmao
Not even a clip?!?!? 😢
On me … who is you dawg 😂😂😂😂😂
Vlad needs to take his head outta his azz, he’s such a donkey 😅
He watched it.
Then he said he responded it
“They changed their lives after the f*cking handcuffs were on” 😂… facts, every time a dude snitches he starts talking about community 😂 boy you was a DEMON 3 months ago 😂
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
People do change tho. A lot are fake tho
@@EvroyalIt’s not that they don’t change. It’s the reason. It matters to know that some people will only change when society forces them to. This behavior is similar to viruses or bacteria. No brain of their own.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joey accuses everyone of being a rat, to an obsessive level. Saw a guys talking that was doing time with him and hes said every other guy that walked by, joey would claim was a rat. Hes starting to sound like someone projecting.
Anyone notice a pattern of how Vlad puts people against each other?
ALWAYS
It’s genetic ✡️
It's a Khazarian thing. They love to cause division.
It's one of the oldest criticisms of Glad.
He's interviewing grown men. Surely as a grown man you see the bait and act accordingly? Is Vlad responsible for grown men acting out of line and engaging in petty disputes between each other?
“Don’t talk about it on social media… do it like a man.” Real talk from a real G…
A “real g” with a social media podcast doing nothing but talking😂
He's a man not a gangster. He hasn't been a "g" in a long time, probably out of respect for him, if you respect him, shouldn't call him that
@ no one called him a gangster, stop being so sensitive.
@@BigA678 pod caster … being a “G” are two different things. What I meant by it was he didn’t exchange words with that guy. Unlike all those rappers/thugs that go on Adam22 and just talk smack over social media.. he wasn’t about that. A real one or some one who’s been in that life don’t do that crap. Everything calm.. everything quiet 🤫 handle business when the lights go out. No need to incriminate yourself to look cool on social media.
Stop it Mike is softer than baby shit 😂😂😂
Merlino answered the questions how your suppose too lol
Exactly
Facts 😅
Your not suppose to be doing interviews full stop😂
Exactly
"like a man" 😂
Mike, Don't let them pull you back in. Stay positive even though I know it's hard
"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in" -Silvio Dante
Micheal is way too smart for that.
@@tomking853Obviously not. He basically said “Pull up” and found a way to mention Joe Biden. 😂😂😂😂
I don't think Michael needs your advice buddy
@@ibervillezee9142 What’s wrong with that?
Don't act like Joey wouldn't say it to your face lol
😂😭
I never get this response from any of these Rats they go run Hide where guys like us arent there then say 'Say it to my face' As if we have been running away from them to avoid telling the truth
Michael Francheese 🧀
That guy is a try hard
Except that's tough talk for a guy that's been put on the shelf.
"I ain't hard to find."
-Michael Franzese
💪💯
Yea he’s not saying that at all because he’s a celebrity and celebrities w real influence get protected by feds yea not at all 🙄 you people need to stop being so naive and delusional
Especially on UA-cam... The Guy is everywhere on UA-cam 🙄
@@ST58432 anybody is touchable
in the cheese aisle at the grocery store 🤣🤣🤣
Joey calls everyone a rat to be fair 😂.
Another UA-camr said Merlino suffers from Rat Derangement Syndrome
I believe the only person Joey called a rat that wasn’t was his dad Sonny Franzese.
@@tdoggsmackem7498 Ye sonny was the real deal
@tdoggsmackem7498 yea but both his sons were and he didn't disown them
😂
Vlad “I know you seen it”
Michael “I didn’t”
Vlad “you seen parts of it”
Michael “it popped up on my feed”
Vlad was gone cry if he ain’t see it 😂
You could feel vlads disappointment lol
@0:39 'They 'changed' their life. That's what they say. Yeah, they changed their lives when the fkn handcuffs went on 'em....'
LOL!!! Merlino is a SAVAGE!!!!
It's a good point to be fair
That's one interview I wouldn't mind to re-watch again 😂
Joey “Idk nothing” Merlino 🤌🏾
Well duh. When tf else are they going to sit down and examine their life, except when they're locked down 24/7.
Joey isn't wrong.
Bout the dad he's wrong
@@staysolid19no he's not. I mean his dad didn't snitch on anyone but to continue to see your sons who are known rats basically makes you a rat by association.
Computer Warrior 😂😂😂 quite listening to these guys 😂😂😂. Think for yourself.
I don’t think he’s wrong about the “found god” part. I’ve always thought Franzese specifically plays that up. Like when he first came out, he was always making sure to have his crucifix pendant & his Bible verse tattoos showing on camera 😂
He’s wrong about his dad tho. Michael’s dad was a straight up OG
I like the way Michael carries himself. He’s changed but you can sense he still has that mob vibe type respect. Like the social media response let’s speak man to man.
100%!
The comments are funny. Michael is doing the right thing with what he said.
Franzeze went to a dark place and brought himself back quick lol.
Oh... so Vlad has moved on from just getting rappers to tell on themselves and stirring up beef among rappers. Now he's doing it to the dagos.
Nothing new
And we’re here for it 👏🏾
Dagos? lol jerkoff
Should have never said a negative word about Sonny.
Have you noticed Michael doesn’t deny he’s a rat any longer since there’s proof out there? Now it’s “say it to my face” 😂
Everybody knows Joey was and is solid in the streets and would 1000% say it to his face hahah.
What proof if I may ask?
@@andros8821 Watch the video on UA-cam of him testifying in open court and telling the court who was the boss of the Colombo's, what his position was and his fathers. Also the show he was interviewed for where he openly says he's a cooperator. All things I bet he thinks because they were done in the 90's wouldn't make it onto UA-cam and they have.
Joey never called his dad a rat. He called HIM a rat and said that his dad was no better than a rat for not disowning him for cooperating with law enforcement.
Fax
Vlad even has retired mob bosses beefing again 😂
Francheesy was never a boss.
@@Mr_Clean And these 2 specifically never had an ounce of beef with each other before they both became UA-camrs lol
@@joojoobaw Vlad the instigator general 🤣
I respect how you composed yourself with such class.
To be fair, im sure joey would have no problem calling him a rat to his face.
Joey would slap the crap out of him
Vlad is the ultimate instigator 😅
“Social Media what is that?”
Vlad igniting beef amongst Italians then gets hit with a stray bullet
“I don’t fight with people on social media” so many people could really stand to take notes from this.
How can you even possibly say that Sonny Franzese is a rat? That’s literally crazy.. the man spent half his life in prison and never said a word
he didn't. he called mikey one because he was.
Yea i dont think he called the dad a rat
Technically in that life he was because he was meeting with and helping his son (a rat). In that life that makes you a rat too
@@staysolid19he did. He said cause he still talked to his son who cooperated somewhat that that constitutes his father as a rat by association
@@HarvardYohannes
😂 that’s some of the dumbest logic I ever heard. Sounds like he was just fishing for dramatic reactions tho
Merlino is correct. He sat in prison for a long time and never said a word. He deserves the right to call all these rats out
Mike's a good dude man keep your head up big guy
Joey Merlino would absolutely, not, say anything to Big Sunny if he was alive and in his heyday.
But he’s not
I’m sure he would
Joey a menace don't underestimate him
Oh yeah? Why not? He wasn’t afraid of the boss of philly why would he be scared of Sonny??
You must dont know Joeys reputation and history in the mob. You better do some research
Don't fall for it, Michael.They just want views. Stay focused,you're a brand all by yourself. Keep leading people to Christ with your redemption story. 👊🙏
Michael being quiet is kinda scary. In his 70s and see those wheels turning and those eys. Yeesh.
Listen to the sheer glee in vlads voice when he says I didn't co sign this 😂 , he knows hes about to get a reaction. . You're a Muppet vlad
Puppeteer*
Not in 1000s year can he hold half the respect Sonny has. He stood tall on 50 years, right or wrong he is a legend.
That’s a fact💯
Joey have been in and out of prison for bids and never said a peep. Both he and Sonny are standup guys for doing they time like men and not cooperating. Cant say the same for Mike.
I don't think Vlad comprehends that Joey comes from an era when the mob whacked rats left and right. Joey included. The only reason he's on UA-cam is to vent about rats. Lol. He has zero reason to sit down with Franzese.
Joey merlino is the realest gangster of our time period.
Michael is a class act all the way! Take the high road dont stoop to their mudslinging.....
JOEY 100% RIGHT
No
Never heard of him.
Why is he takin about anyone else? Zip it.
1:14 yo I’m crying this gonna go viral
True Story.. it was Michael Franzsese who burnt down Joey`s cheeseSteaks....
That's bs no it wasn't lol.
His reaction though 😅
You want to know the true story
people are just dumb.
Michale Franzese even after he left he still provide money got by books to andrew russo and his dad who at
that time were in life and he always have a connection to politics that why the mob in NY and Chicago big guys not to worry about mike and he can go where he like to go what you exoect that guy is a fucking earner of life and making money don't forget he
have a large platform you tube and making money and also have political connection
And yes The mob in NY and inner Philly mob circles decided to banish joey merlino was starting in 2019 when he was jail .And in 2023 after joey accept almost 2.5 millions by unknown to start a postcast
and he did and the mob in new york and chicago got upset what he doing
and the latter was now situation
Sonny Franzese didnt do 50 years, did only about half, he got sentenced to this but was released very early but over that had to be brought back in multiple times because he continued to do crimes.
He was sick he got a compassionate release because of his age
Joey got them Manson lamps, Mike don’t want the smoke with Joey trust that
haha you sound dumb asf
Fax
The paperwork calls you a rat not just a person ! The government says he is a rat not just Joey
Mr. Franzese, don’t fall for Vlads bs. You give great insight into a world people are obviously curious about. Your father’s reputation is impeccable. Please don’t engage in any desperate and reckless publicity stunts orchestrated by Vlad.
I respect Michael for his comments In this video .
Ex mobsters calling each other names on yt is kinda ridiculous 🙄
Michael would probably call the police if Joey showed up and said you're a rat
In all fairness to Joey, he disowned his own uncle when his uncle became a snitch.
He went cold there the old life kicks back in
Truth. He got real quiet and you could see it in his eyes. Oooofff. Ice cold.
Yea like joey said, if they didn't get caught they would be doing the same thing still
Why doesn't Vlad ever ask Franzese about that Ray-p charge that's on Sonny's record? Or about Sonny Imp_Reg_Nating a female who was one year older than 15?
Why not just say she was 16? That's the weirdest way of saying someone's age I've ever seen.
@@jasonscott7988
For the same reason I purposely misspelled the 'R' word... to evade the algorithm
@@paulstrathern4309 why would the "algorithm" not catch 15 but it would 16?
@@jasonscott7988
Because of the way that it's coded. It's sensitive to certain words and numbers in certain contexts.
@@paulstrathern4309 it's weird that you know that the UA-cam algorithm is sensitive to 16 year olds.
Truth hurts
The dad wasn't a rat
Sonny did the rest of his life in the penitentiary he was one of the only solid members of that life. Do some research kid.
@@JerkMidik I don't know what you got out of "truth hurts" , but calm down Cupcake. You might want to do some research on your reply
@@staysolid19 I never said he was
Here he go with this “MY COUNTRY” shxt 🤦🏽♂️
Lots of virtue signaling to make up for the life of crime they had. Now religion probably his excuse
Just remember this could all be a big set up to get them to sit down with each other like they did between Mike and Sammy
Nah, Joey is the real thing he's not a government bootlicker turned born again Christian making money off the crimes of others by telling everything they know to UA-cam interviewers.
Idk the other dude can’t he’s still active he himself would probably get hurt if he didn’t do anything to honor the mafia at least that’s what Tony soprano would do 😂
@@titorocha5771
Hey! _Allegedly…_
Yeah, Mike not gonna respond because Joey is right.
Mike was living it up committing crimes and snitched when he was arrested 😂
He Said He Didn’t Watch The Interview But Had A Response Ready
You're doing right Michael ... I too refuse to engage people on or off social media. If they want to come at me like a human being with a back bone, I invite it ... never in a hostile or argumentative manner. But I will defend my integrity or position, and you responded correctly instead of acting like a thug. Well done sir ... In my opinion you responded as a Christian man.
Vlad was to happy trying to set up the show with both of em 🤦🏻♂️😂😂
😂 "you down, here I already have the paperwork ready, sign here"
A “former” mafia member saying others are destructive to his country. Franzese still cuddles to “the life” and uses Christianity as a cover.
Vlad is not your friend Michael, all about business. A friend wouldn't put you in harms way like he is trying to do. GOD bless u Michael
Joey may have been telling the truth. He never said he wasn't a 🐁
I don’t think a lion would’ve growled in Sonny’s face so I highly doubt Joey would’ve even stepped to Sonny 😂
you're right....a Lion would have ate him
vlad love hearing him some vlad, let your guest talk bruh
I don’t know what he did or didn’t do as far as cooperating but his pops was as solid as they come from what I’ve read.
He didn’t deny being a rat lol…once things got tough “he changed his life” 😂😂😂
The truth hurts! Once you rat you can NEVER take it back 🤷🏽♂️
No socks in the interview is nasty work
He's wearing dress shoe socks you peasant...
I dont think he ever called his father a rat. He just said he associated himself with his son who was a rat. Very different
Joey a kid to Michael. Can't even compare. Not even close
Joeys the only guy between the two of them that did REAL street guy shit.
In that life Joey was a real street dude who stood on business 🔫 behind it. Mike was in the life but he was a big earner💵 he never had o get his hands dirty
Vlad did chime in! He said they’d probably be doing the same thing if they didn’t get caught!
He did not call Sonny a rat, it was only Michael.
I said it before and I'll say it again.....I hope these two work things out.
I Respect Michael Franzese For Being A Man’s Man/Candid And Your Allegiance To Lord Jesus.
Franzese is a grifter. He doesn't do any of his church anything for free; he stays making a ton of personal bank from it.
A Trump supporter is a man's man? Sounds weak.
He’s wearing women pants and shoes
DONALD! SECURED OUR BORDERS AND GOT US OUT OF UGLY ONE WAY DEALS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES! It’s a fact!
@@patriciadaniels2688 you called Mike a man’s man 😂😂😂. Wow you actually have the logic of a transgender
Why is Vlad surprised that an active mafia boss was more defensive than the other ex mob guys he's interviewed? He must've known Joey was gonna act like he'd never even heard the word mafia before 😂
Merlino tryna catch them loafers huh
Calling Sonny a rat to his face in his prime would have been a new Joey pack in the air.
Merlino is the real deal. Vlad, have Merlino back on
😂😂😂😂😂😂 y'all 🤡 s
@ you support rats
@tylerh6315 I support real people
Lol Merlino was the boss of the phili mob. They were a small small little group compared to the 5 NY families.
They bassicly runned Atlantic City so they ain't that small
See how he said he’ll only bash someone when it’s politics 😂 that’s the world right now
No way Sonny is not a rat! Never was! Sonny was a gangster's gangster!
Joey Merlino is not afraid of Franzese lmao. Franzese still ducks admitting he was a cooperating witness when there's a whole federal 302 agreement and paperwork for everyone to see for themselves.
Misleading, if you read the302 there is nothing of substance
Franzese was a cooperating witness but essentially gave the Feds nothing. He played a masterful game of chess to leave the life but didn't put anyone in jail and that is a FACT if you search the records. In fact, I will go as far as saying that Franzese was a F'n genius on how he played this and yes he violated Omerta but he didn't put anyone in jail so he's a rat but not a full blown rat if that makes sense.
Link please
@@donh1572 Doesn't need to be anything of substance; he shouldn't be talking at all if he's "about that life" because talking is what is known as being a rat.
@@pappy374this is true technically. The fact that theirs even paperwork proves that there was some sort of cooperation.
Now at the end of the day who cares, I'm a fan of Franzese's work and glad he is here on the tube!
Vlad instigating like crazy 😂😂
@@Ab-vb4in he was. It Mike shut him down
Mike is the man , he's improved and grown light years ahead of Joey merlino.
Calling a dude that did 50 years in prison is crazy
He was wrong for calling Sonny that. Sonny was all about that life and the most stand up guy in that life.
No way he or his dad are rats!
Sonny was not a rat in any sense of the word but Mike and his brother were and thats Joey problem with the father in that life he was suppose to disown his sons at the least or take them out at the worst and he did neither.
He definitely watched the joey merlino interview 😂
Vlad the #1 instigator
Vlad trying to stir up stuff in the mafia world like he does in the rap world. Mike is too smooth
One day they will study how Vlad got so many people hurt with his sub par interviewing skills
He called his Dad a Rat ? Where ?
Not in vlads interview but on his own channel , he said because he was friendly with Michael after he left the life that’s just the same as ratting so therefore he called his dad a rat
'I assume you watched this intv'
' I did not'
Hahahha
Vlad is so scary he will take security with him to take a piss 😂
Joey gone make Mike put that “dark cape” back on 😂💯
That Joey Merlino interview was epic 😂😂😂😂
There you go...True definition of a MAN!
We heard what you said vlad!
From 3:48 and beyond Michael Frazese wasn’t a human anymore.
Vlad started to see him as a huge dollar bill. 💵
For people who take the oath,,,,when they leave the life,, they have a lot to say!!
we not like you vlad pulling upp with 8 officers
I hope I have someone to defend me when I'm gone. These days you can barely get out the door before you're so-called friends are stabbing you in the back.
He didn’t call his dad a rat. He was referring to michael.