I'm a US citizen. I live in Vietnam and my wife is born and raised from Hanoi. She was born in 1975 and thus grew up during this time. She ultimately was able to go abroad and get a doctorate degree in math, but she went through some unbelievable hardship before getting there. Vietnam now is a country that I'm sure US veterans and even some Viet kieu would not recognize.
I was stationed in Saigon 1971. Visited Vietnam with my grandson 5 years ago, A completely different country than it was. Many of the people who lived through the war have already died. It is ancient history to younger generations.
@@jonathanmantle2364 Watch "The Killing Fields." Dith Pranh portrays Sidney Schamberg's assistant and driver. Or, look for the book, Phnom Penh Nancy. It's about a couple DC-8 freighter pilots that flew in there one last time.
NC high school history teacher. It can't really be any more than a bullet point in World History (not enough time in a semester), and it's not pertinent to US History courses. However, we do talk about it in my Lessons of the Vietnam War course.
Vietnamese here. Although we dont talk much about Vietnam post war, our history teacher did sometime talk about this topic. They wont go into detail but they said if we want to learn more, we can search on the internet.
They won't - it's a communist worker's paradise now - just what the wokists strive to turn the West into - can't have that, first need to trick the people a bit more....
Woke media always tried to portray American Viets as just of jobless migrants fresh off the boat... As a third generation Vietnamese-American, nothing is more better than enjoying the woke racist mental breakdown because Vietnamese Americans are the most successful hardworking law-abiding ethnicity and 2/3 of us voted Trump and DeSantis this election
I wish you would finish this video to include the Viet Nam in the present day. I have been back and am amazed how they have developed and are so welcoming to Americans. It has become a great country to visit.
Doesn't quite suit the "vengeful communist dictatorship massacring everybody" idea, does it? It is more beautiful and dignified than it's more pro-Western neighbours, and the national resources are not being shipped away by tax-evading European and US companies. As Vietnamese people say to me, "What could we have been without 30 years of war?".
I worked with a guy from Vietnam for a couple of years, in 2000 or so. I had by that point seen every American film on the Vietnam war, so was a little more versed in the history of his country, than say most of the other people working there. One day the 2 of us were mucking about out of the sight of any of the managers, in the back of the restaurant. For whatever reason i cried out to him " Me no VeeCee, Me no VeeCee". He stopped and looked at me with a panicked look on his face, he said "where did you learn to say that?". I explained to him that almost every film on his country i had seen, had someone saying that phrase. (usually followed by something bad happening to them). I asked him his thoughts on the war. His reply astonished me. He felt no ill will, to the people, or the country of America. To his generation (He was born in 75) the west was about as "cool" as it got. So cool infact he decided to leave his country (and all his family) and settle in the west, and start a new life. He told me a story about chewing gum. How the coolest thing was to be seen chewing gum. Chewing gum, was in short supply, and expensive. So the kids would chew chickens feet (or bits of), and pretend it was gum. A lovely warm hardworking guy. (but he did like to gamble. OMG did he liked to gamble)
Younger people need to remember that there were two Vietnam's back then, just like two Korea's (even today), two Germany's, two Ireland's and several other around the world. North Vietnam won the war basically by outlasting the USA, finally conquering South Vietnam some three years after the US had withdrawn. The Russians and the Chinese kept supplying NV while the US Congress halted all aid for SV. Thus, NV won.
Under French occupation, from 1850 to 1954, there was only one Vietnam too. When the French were beaten at Dien Bien Phu, the peace negotiations in Geneva gave the French two years to leave and drew a line, south of which the French could gather their stuff, it was not the border between two countries. Of course those who had collaborated with the French followed them but no matter, two years later, in 1956, the peace treaty had ordered elections would be held on both sides and no matter who won, the two parts would be united in a single country again. Of course, it was clear that Hô Chi Minh would win so the US, through Edward Lansdale, advised Diem to cancel that election and organized one in the south only. Diem, got 112% of the votes, the US claimed south Vietnam was a legitimate country and that the North was a vicious communist dictatorship that needed to be eliminated. In fact, Hô was a fan of the US democracy and got weapons from the communists but he was much more of a nationalist than a communist and the US, seen as just another invader ended up fighting the people of the south as much as the North. The Vietnamese from both sides wanted to be free, and be one country again, it was divided for only twenty years, by a US coup.
@@rosesandsongs21 So say some, others disagree, including many Vietnamese from the south. Since you gave me a history lesson, I'll give you one. Historically, northern Vietnam was more Chinese/Buddhist dominated and southern Vietnam was closer to Cambodia and more Catholic and "Western". As I said, back then there were two Germany's, two Yemen's, two Koreas (still are), two Irelands (still are), etc. Oh by the way it was not divided by a US coup - you're reading slanted history. Besides, I was focusing on the war, the military operations. From that perspective, SV was doing quite well in the 1971-72 timeframe. SV could have wound up like South Korea - a great success.
@rosesandsongs21 Referendums in war torn parts of the World are a bad idea as either armed camp can and do intimidate the electorate into voting for them and besides millions of Vietnamese already voted with their feets in 1954 by leaving territories that were to be handed over to Ho Chi Minh and Ho Chi Minh has had send his troops to block a lot of them from leaving.
Bạn có nhầm không? Nạn diệt chủng người Thượng? Họ bây giờ còn được ưu tiên hơn người Kinh. Được miễn phí học hành. Được ưu tiên nằm trong bộ máy quản lý nhà nước ở địa phương. Được hỗ trợ y tế và chính sách an sinh xã hội. Tôi đang sống chung với họ đây. Thậm chí họ còn có kênh tivi tiếng riêng của họ. Sự kiện bạn nhắc tới là gì? Tôi chưa từng nghe mặc dù tôi sống ở đây khá lâu rồi.
I enjoyed this topic along. My father served in Vietnam as a crew dog on a B-52. We hosted a family who were boat ppl at our church. I also worked with Cambodians who lost family due to Pol Pot.
im live in Vietnam and here my recomments. If you don't care about corrupt goverment, poor healthcare system, dirty foods, trash everywhere, cheap labour, poor kids, old people or disable people laying on the ground begging for money,... and you have alots of money then VIetnam is a heaven for you
I agree with your remarks about what the Vietnamese society is really like. People say Vietnamese food is good, but they don't know how it is prepared. My overseas-born son was afflicted with diarrhoea after eating a beefsteak in the restaurant of an expensive hotel. Definitely this is not a holiday destination for me. For the reasons cited in your comment. This Christmas in particular, top-ranked officials have been visiting and courting the catholic clergy 'to demonstrate the good relationship between the Vatican and our country'. Words are around the VCP wants to have a say in who can be ordained as a priest or higher. The same thing has happened in China. State-ordained clergymen. lol
@@thomastruong8382 Regarding to your son's incident at an expensive hotel, if many people got diarrhoea after having the steak then it's definitely food contamination. But if your son was the only having it then it's likely that the issue is specifically to him i.e that's how his body reacted to an ingredient in the deal that he was not exposed to in the US.
I was in the US Navy in 1981 and we picked up 1100 "boat people" (refugees from Vietnam) Feb 1981. One of the refugees was a former ARVN Maj. who was an intel officer. He told us he was shocked how many friends, relatives, fellow ARVN were traitors, spies etc...When the North won in 1975 he went into hiding. He said the former ARVN traitors were some of the first people rounded up and shot or tossed into camps. He stayed on the run until he escaped with his family, friends, on a boat. I have gone to our ship's runions a few times and talked to some of the people we picked up. They have done well for themselves and thanked us for saving them.
What a load of BS! Yeah makes sense the people that helped the north were shot (those evil commies) and the guy somehow manage to hide. As if the Vietnamese government at the time did not had all the files of people who were fighting in the south army, mainly of officers. If you believe that kind of BS you probably also believe that there were WMDs under saddam bedroom and because of that they needed to invade iraq.
@@Krasnoye158 No. He and the other 1100 boat people we picked up said the same thing. You don't see a million plus people jump on old fishing boats if the Communists were nice people. They were mass killers.
Yeah, he was lying. I have 2 out of 3 uncles who been to the camp since they severed in the ARVN, they just stayed there for 1-2 weeks and went home, they tell me that it was just to study politics, ideologies which they pretty didn't pay attention or forgot by now since it doesn't matter anymore as they are living a normal life. Don't trust those South Vietnamese refugees, they're Catholics, they just hate the communist because their Catholic overly privilege status were taken away, the former South Vietnamese government pretty religion-biased.
@@no-bodymr6419 Not sure of their religion but they were telling the truth. They matched what the Communists did in North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, South Vietnam, PR China, USSR, Poland and other Eastern European countries what happens when the Communists seize power. The Catholics were much more aware of the danger of the Communists than the Buddhists. The Buddhists let themselves were used by the Communists and then wham! They got locked up or killed. Especially in Cambodia.
IATA is just an industry body or trade association, actual regulations are through ICAO. VVTS is the actual airport code pilots use, basically only ticket and baggage handling system use the IATA codes now.
Saigon and Ho Chi Minh are both use in Vietnam dude , even the largest new paper of Saigon are call Saigon giai phong, Saigon ain't a taboo name for the city , local here use it to call the real Saigon ans it old district and ho chi Minh City for the current city ( which add few more district and size quadruple compare to old Saigon )
An aspect of the post Vietnam syndrome that you overlooked was how it affected the US deployment to Lebanon from 1982-1984. The fear of commitment and unwillingness to use force led to the deaths of 273 Americans and became the roots of what would become the Global War on Terror. I served in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983 and my sons served in Iraq from 2005-2009. Vietnam syndrome shaped foreign policy in a way that led to an absolute debacle in the Middle East throughout the 1980s and took us all the way to 9/11.
@@safetysandals I was thinking more along the lines of how the Vietnam Syndrome affected military conduct in Lebanon... but maybe I missed something. I will have to go back and review. Thanks.
My brothers father in law and his whole family were put in reeducation camps by the north becasue his father was a clerk in a government office. Father in law managed to escape prison because he befriended the guards and they didnt cut all his hair off so he didnt look like the other prisoners and eventually made his way to Indonesia and then the US. Unfortunately his father died in prison and most of his brothers were kept in prison till the late 80's and one till the early 90's. They all moved to the US eventually.
@yodaeee i don't know the specifics of how he got to Indonesia. I know some Catholic group helped him get there or helped him once he was there. I'd assume he got there on a boat though.
The Catholics were the most implacable enemies of the nationalists (not just the communists) having fought for the French, then having come south to shore up the brutal regime of Diem. And that's how so many plum government jobs went to Catholics. Who then used those positions to create the rampant corrupt state that was South Vietnam. But, year, I'm sure he was just a clerk. I am sorry for his suffering, but I would be suspect of that history.
The Laos secret war, South Vietnam, the Royal military, Hmong, Huynh, chanps, monteneggard’s involvements. In relation to the NVA Vietcong’s China involvement . is another topic to delve into with the post war declassifications
Really cool video. Its hard for me to find topic that I dont know about as I read and watched a lot about history but this was mostly new for me. People always focus on big wars but hardly ever tell what happened after them.
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Our local Barbershop is a family who escaped Vietnam by boat. They aren't shy about describing things they were forced to do or things they saw. The government and soldiers of North Vietnam weren't the plucky freedom fighters struggling for independence they are frequently portrayed to be. What happened to Southern Vietnam despite it's corruption was a tragedy.
@@NoManClatuer-pd8ck President Diem had no corrupt part in his bone. It was what lead to his assassination. Hence JFK went after the mafia, and the complex industry. Plus LBJ. Same outcome
And yet talking to people in Vietnam, old and young, it's completely different. You think a civil war (arguable) fought the way that war was was going to end with a handshake? What is remarkable is how little violence and revenge their was, and how quickly it was over.
@@lllordllloyd The violence and revenge came in the re-education camps and the policy against the Chinese population, it is never peaceful as many people thought!
@@lllordllloyd Im a Vietnamese, you should stop talking to facades, older people which don't want to talk ill about the gov and later generations which know nothing
Very insightful more so then other documentaries that cover Vietnam While i do love the ken burns doc, there were alot of details he glossed over post war. Should have made an epilogue episode about that.
This was fascinating thanks! My Maori language teacher in school was a Vietnam vet, I think he said Pol Pot was the real problem with the region, so was interesting to learn they were battling the Khmer Rouge afterwards? Also thanks for providing a bibliography! 🤓
Sino-Soviet split was a big factor. China cozying up with USA, who actively bullying us with sanctions, for economic infusion didn't help either. "对越自卫还击保卫边疆作战" as they call it.
This documentary is one of the best I have ever seen on the subject! It seems like every damned video about the Vietnam war, the fall of Saigon and even the aftermath all seem to parrot the Communist liberal left-wing line one way or the other. In this video the narrator actually speaks honestly about the Communists and how truly horrible they really were and are. He doesn't whitewash it or try to blame America for their problems. I immediately subscribed after watching this video. One other thing that impressed me about it was the mentioning of the resistance against the communists after the war ended. I looked all over UA-cam and the internet and I couldn't find any information about this anywhere. If you could please do a more in-depth video about the anti-communist post-war guerilla resistance I would be enthralled with that and forever thankful.
Thank you for this one! The period between the Vietnam War and the 21st century has long been a gap in my knowledge. I would love more videos on southeastern Asia in general going forward, too! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
I thought you might do a video of the third Indochina war that went on from 1 May 1975 - 23 October 1991 which is 16 years, 5 months, 3 weeks and 1 day This resulted in two invasions and two border war skirmishes and two Insurgency’s. Invasion of Kampuchea Sino-Vietnamese War Khmer Rouge insurgency Sino-Vietnamese conflicts Insurgency in Laos Communist insurgency in Thailand Am not criticising you and I am glad you have put a post fall of Saigon video on it’s just you’ve done videos on the Lebanese civil war , Sudan’s wars with the Southern Sudanese, I just thought you could put all 6 on one video.
Simply because many American companies outsource their manufacturing to countries where labor costs are much less expensive than in the USA. This isn’t such a big secret…many American corporations do this as a matter of course in order to increase their already obscene profits margins and not worry about labor protests and uprisings with American workers…
Wolverine Boots, have been made in VIETNAM for years!! They are still expensive!! Now tons of American Brand oil filters are made in VIETNAM! The Quality is very good, and are manufactured by New machinery set up by American Companies!! American managers, and employees have been there to train Vietnamese employees, and managers!! Not only American Filter Companies, but German, and other filter companies have built Plants there!! Electronic, and Musical Instruments Companies have been there for years, and make really impressive Guitars, and Amplifiers there!! Even Marshall Amplifiers, a World Famous English Amplifier Manufacturer has Lines of Amps made in VIETNAM!! Companies are leaving China for Vietnam weekly!!! Quality control is alot better from what I've seen in VIETNAMESE Manufacturing than Chinese products!! I can't even begin to think of how many different types of things are being manufactured there, and sold in the USA!! Automotive Parts are really good Quality, and New Tires made in new State of the Art plants!! See the made in VIETNAM labeling more, and more!! An EV Automobile company owned by a Female Vietnamese Billionaire are currently building an EV Car Manufacturering Plant in NORTH CAROLINA!! Made in China is being Replaced by Made in VIETNAM!!! Check the labels, and you will see!!! Fine With Me!!!😉😉😉😉🤔🤔🤔🤔🙂😊
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7:23 "...having being labeled collaborators..." Of course they weren't. How can it be, that part of your country, occupied for 20 years by foreign military, has collaborators in charge of military crimes? Absolutely impossible!
"Nixon’s successor Gerald Ford went to Congress seeking $1.45 billion in aid for South Vietnam but was given only $700 million. In December Hanoi tested the new president’s mettle by launching an attack in Phuoc Long province, a clear violation of the Paris treaty. Ford protested but took no military action. The path was now clear for North Vietnam to invade the South." ----- We did not honor our promises to South Vietnam. The Nixon administration had pledged to use air power if the communists violated the peace agreement.. A Democrat Congress reneged on the promised and betrayed our ally. A very shameful moment in American history.
Have spoken of what you ate just saying and showing. Hardly any1 beleived me. ARVN AND THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE HERE KNOW ONLY ALL TO WELL OF THE EFFECTS OF COMMUNIST AFTER THE FALL OF SIAGON IN APRIL 30TH 1975. GRATATUDE TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. RESPECTS 🙏.
This was very interesting. It was like a Paul Harvey "Rest of the story" for Vietnam. You should do one for Korea. Matter of fact, you should do a series on the Korean War, I haven't found one.
Ending with Clinton was a downer. A lot has happened since then as far as the US is concerned. You could end with Obama's visit as a sitting President in 2016, or the US aircraft carrier visit in 2023, or the issues with China going on today.
@@fangzu612 pol pot? You also conveniently left out Dåk Son, home to 2,000 mountain highlanders, which was also known as the Dak Som Massacre, in revenge for the Montagnards support and allegiance to South Vietnam and Her Imperial Majesty’s…
@@fangzu612 look up project 100,000 initiative. drafting those convicted of serious crimes like murder. Probably wasn’t a good policy decision. Hugh Thompson was the only one who filed an official report, spoke out against it
Except for spies, all South Vietnamese soldiers, politicians, and police officers were imprisoned, especially officers, in harsher re-education camps in the north.
That's not true. Normally South Vietnamese army personnel received about 1-2 weeks of re-education. Only 10000-15000 stayed in re-education camps for more than 2 years.
@HNHanRyang the original commenter didn't provide any source either. It's the matter of what you chose to believe, then it is pointless to point the truth out to you. There are numerous other commenters that point out their uncles in the ARVN only serve 1-2 weeks in re-education, which directly challenged HanRyang's comment.
@ also, you didn't provide any source to your comment 🤣 who are you trying to educate? Judging from your name, you're Korean. Koreans committed many war crimes in VN, yet they came home and boasted about how great they were at "saving" people, so it is the case that you have absorbed a bit too much of their propaganda
Appreciate the work you and other historians do in actually examining topics like the Vietnam War and going further into the effects of said events on the modern day. In comparison, when Ken Burns, who was paid to create a series on Vietnam, gave poetic monologues about how the war changed America without explaining what exactly changed, and then glossing over 40 years of history after the fall of Saigon. I kid you not his PBS series ends with “Vietnam created education claps, then it became friends with the United States.” I can’t even recall if Burns discussed how China and Vietnam were never on the same page per se, fought each other, the rise of Pol Pot, and how the other surrounding nations got impacted in the aftermath of the Vietnam war. Heck, one podcast that I do enjoy “Lions led by Donkeys” did a whole segment on the Nixon Laos incursion that was stupid and immoral (seriously the White House was picking targets to attack in a basement), and it goes into who made the decisions, how said the said operation was carried out and what its effects were. As you can guess none of that was explored in the PBS series.
... which was especially lame as there have been several excellent Vietnam war TV series over the years, especially the PBS one. Burns is a historian for non historians (as is Max Hastings in this context, heavily relied on for this video, also).
Really good video. Found it very informative. 35:04 I think theres strong evidence that tens if not hundreds of live POWS were left behind in 1973. By ‘95 they were all likely dead. But I find this and the POWS clearly left behind in Korea a fascinating and haunting episode in American history.
@ I know it’s a joke but it’s actually a terrible stain on America’s relationship to it’s service men. Read, ‘Abandoned in place’, American Trophies’, ‘An Enormous Crime’. Very informative books on the subject.
As a descendant of exiles from Vietnam, I will tell you what happened after the war. The racist Vietnamese Communists persecuted then kicked out much of Vietnam's top educated and skilled, like my grandparents for the crime of merely being Chinese.
We did not kick yall, our policies after the reunification are included all foreigners lived and worked in Vietnam must get Vietnamese nationality, but majority refused and even raised Chinese flag, moreover, Chinese had so much influences in economy, espcially in South, this posed a threat to Vietnam, so yea we forced you to leave instead of kicked you
@@Vinhvnhd2k7 Most of Vietnam's Chinese community are not foreigners. Many of us, like my family can trace our line within the nation before Vietnam was ever a country. You Vietnamese are not native to Vietnam either. The Han emperor relocated the Vietnamese and many Chinese to the region, to develop it thousands of years ago. All modern scholars agree with that, even my American history professor agrees. My people have a right to prosper in Vietnam as much as your people do.
It was necessary to expel the Chinese because at that time the Chinese had taken over the entire economy. They began to rebel, demanding to separate into an autonomous government and even hung a large picture of Mao Zedong in Chợ Lớn
@theawesomeman9821 but the problem is that if u live in a nation, u must follow the nation's rules, majority of you guys failed to follow in 1976, which led to the Chinese migration back to China, and also we are not racist, in the law said that all types of people(black,white,yellow...etc) are equal to live together in Vietnam as long as they follow the laws
@@Vinhvnhd2k7 very few Chinese I knew refused to obey Vietnamese laws, your government did everything in its power to fail my people, like forcing Chinese to obtain a work permit within a week's notice of issue, though it takes months to get through the process. The way your government treated the Chinese was unfair. The French and Americans were way more reasonable to my people.
I've read that Cambodia became Vietnam's "Vietnam." That is to say, a quagmire that cost lives with little progress. Of course, you could argue that the Vietnamese did achieve their goal in that the Khmer Rouge never returned to power in Cambodia.
I always wonder what happened to our interpreter. He worked for the CIA before he worked for us. Nice guy but that was in another life now. America can never learn from Vietnam because we never told ourselves the truth about it. I read histories and they never match what I saw there. The only people who knew what really happened were the guys on the ground and we were silenced by the government for 50 years before they started thanking us for our service and now 75% of us are dead. So we continue to keep making the same mistakes and pissing off more and more people around the world.
Does anyone know what finally happened to the escaping Air Vietnam DC-6 parked at a remote ramp at Clark Air Base? Rumors said no government wanted any involvement. I saw it for several years after 1976, maybe somebody salvaged the engines, I know the environmental compressor enabling it to fly above 10000 ft was hard to find and expensive.
7:23 they werent ? I mean sure 1 or 2 innocent people caught in the crossfire but considering how badly the south vietnamese government treated its own people and there were people those that worked for it willingly would be the first target of what the northerners would consider, retribution.
You fail to make mention of the role of the Australian government in the rebuilding of Vietnam and the de-Americanistion of the country. Australia signed a declaration with Vietnam whereby any refugees that sought protection in Australia would be allowed to retain their Vietnamese citizenship and would be allowed to return without sanction. Australia also bankrolled the Vietnamese national airline and would run it for 30 years. It would rewrite the justice system and for a tolerance of opposition parties in government. The model it used was from its own which is probably the most respected political system in the world with solid separations of powers and an independent judiciary. The result today is a country that is the envy of its neighbours and so long as you are not an American, has the welcome mat firmly out.
You are right. There was (justifiably) a great deal of remorse in Australia for our participation in the dirty American war in Vietnam (and consequently a rise in anti-American sentiment), and the Whitlam Labor government made great strides in improving relations with the SRV. That policy continued under the following Fraser conservative government . Malcolm Fraser was at heart a very decent man and an idealist, as shown by his firm opposition to the apartheid regime in South Africa, and in his later years he openly condemned the Vietnam War and warned against our entanglement with the US. Alas, how things have changed..
N.Vietnam did to S. Vietnam what all nations need to do to all who are conquered, you eliminate all opposition and re-educate those that remain. Any opposition will always rise up against you, Hitler, Mao and Stalin knew this from history!!
As someone from Vietnam, I agree with you. Unfortunately, to most (formerly) North Vietnamese officials (civilian and military), they truly believe in the process of 're-education', being indoctrinated and brainwashed by the Vietnamese Communist Party's narrative.
Excellent research. As a Viet Hoa who lived near the border of China when I was 4 years old, now I know how and why I am now in the US. So fortunate. Thank you.
After visiting Vietnam in October, I couldn't help but notice a disconnect between the old communists and the very young population at large. The every day people were happy, welcoming, helpful, and optimistic. The communist government seemed like the Evil Empire keeping the population in check. Is communist control still necessary? Could their fierce nationalism be enough? The merchants seemed to have no problem with Americans as we spent our money and then left. The obvious westernization of Vietnam goes on and that's bringing prosperity. But don't worry, Spirit Airlines doesn't fly there!
And now, US-Vietnamese cooperation has begun further increasing due to China's increasing and aggressive attempts to increase its influence in the region.
Thank you, great video. I visited Vietnam recently as a part of a 2 week Asian cruise. I felt so bad not remembering anything about the history & war of Vietnam. Should have seeked out this video before the trip, I appreciate everything I experienced about the country & people so much more now.
The truth about the Vietnam War that was never fully told. United States had No intention of winning the Vietnam War from the very beginning. Fear it might become like the Korean War with mass continuing Communist Chinese troops from China pouring against American military force in Vietnam. And the threat of a thermal nuclear War with the Soviet Union. Why the Vietnam War was never officially declare, why only 500,000 US ground troops was sent to fight in Vietnam, and why US never sent any US ground force past the 17th parallel into North Vietnam. The Vietnam War started during the Civil Rights movement and racial tension between whites and blacks all across America. Several members in the US government were segregationist and they had their eyes dumping their Blacks problem on Vietnam with the chaos that was happening in Vietnam at that time between Communist North Vietnam and South Vietnam. At that time, the South Vietnamese had 250,000 troops and North Vietnamese had 60,000 troops and the DMZ line had already been establish at the 17th parallel. Many Vietnamese peoples from both North and South did Not support going to War and killing each other over the idea of Communist. Even though several North and South Vietnamese leaders believe Vietnam should Not be divided and try to distrupt one another. But they couldn't rally enough support among the Vietnamese peoples in Vietnam to support going to War. Until Nov. 2, 1963 When US President JF Kennedy and LB Johnson order his CIA to stage a military coup assasination on a catholic South Vietnamese President, Ngô Đình Diệm and his young brother Ngô Đình Nhu. This action give America the power to do what ever they want to Vietnam and to the Vietnamese peoples. And the US appointed an ex-Vietminh soldiers for Ho Chi Minh, Nguyễn Văn Thiệu as their puppet South Vietnamese President. The South Vietnamese President who cause the lives of 500,000 South Vietnamese troops killed or capture by the North Vietnamese army and their communist allies The Pathet Lao army, and the Communist Khmer Rouge army of Cambodia when he order them to be station and patrol in Kampuchea. And who told Nguyễn Văn Thiệu to do so? The United States, fear more Americans troops will be killed in Kampuchea. 20 days after the military coup assassination of South Vietnamese President Ngô Đình Diệm and his young brother Ngô Đình Nhu. US President JF Kennedy was assasinated in Dallas, TX on Nov 22, 1963 and LB Johnson was sworn in as the 36th US President. On Aug 10, 1964, US President LB Johnson declare US military action to Vietnam over an alleged attack on a US destroyer, Maddox that was on patrol past the 17th parallel near Hanoi, the capital of North Vietnam. While supporting the South Vietnam. 500,000 US ground troops was sent to fight in Vietnam. 40% of those US troops that were sent to fight in Vietnam were adult blacks male along with high school drop out white male, non-college white male, trouble teen white male, and white convict male were all sent to fight in Vietnam. And when these US troops arrive in Vietnam and they did their "Search and Destroyed mission." The Communist North Vietnam gain mass support for their cause and their army grew from 60,000 troops to over 1,000,000 troops. On March 16, 1968, several group of US platoons military unit rape and massacre 500 Vietnamese villagers of women, childrens, and old peoples at the village called My Lai during their Search and Destroyed mission. When news and image of My Lai massacre broadcast all across America. There was a mass out cry of protest all across America. Demanding all US millitary force pull out of Vietnam. This lead to Republican Presidential candidate Richard Nixon winning the Nov. 3, 1968 US Presidential election. The following year, when Richard Nixon took office. His 1st President excutive order was to pull out all US military force out of Vietnam. By then, the communist North Vietnamese army was already infiltrate all over in South Vietnam and attacking every since the Tet offensive that happen on Jan 30, 1968 - Sept 23, 1968. President Nixon order a nonstop US B52 bombers to bombed Hanoi, the capital of North Vietnam and its seaport military supply, Haiphong. This halted the advance of the North Vietnamese army taking over all of South Vietnam. The South Vietnamese army began retaking back many city and town from Communist North Vietnam in the South. But all that end, on August 8, 1974, when US President Richard Nixon made a televise annoucement of his resignation as US President to American peoples over the Watergate Scandal. A few month later on Nov 5, 1974, the Democrats party won a landslide in both in the US Senate and the House of Representative. The following year in 1975, the newly elected Democrats took their seat in Congress. The 1st bill of law pass was to cut off all US military funding to South Vietnam. This action cause the Fall of Saigon, the capital of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 to communist North Vietnam. Thus began a mass flow of Vietnamese refugee fleeing out of Vietnam. 10 of thousands of Vietnamese refugee died at sea from hunger, thirst, illness, Thai pirates, and Chinese warships. Today over 100's of thousands young South Vietnamese childrens are born of birth defect from the US toxic biological chemical, Agent Orange which the US military spray all over rivers and forest of South Vietnam. 3,000,000 innocent Vietnamese civilians of women, childrens, and old peoples had to die in their country during the Vietnam War. The Vietnam War is the worse United States War Crime in history. From Truman, JF Kennedy and LB Johnson were all were WWI and WWII veteran who sent the next young American men to become killers. Here is proof of documentary video on how and who started the Vietnam War and you can see it and hear it for yourself on UA-cam video. Here are name of the video title: 1) LBJ Admits assassinating Diem (1967) 2) JFK Speak of Diem Coup -Whitehouse Tapes Assassination. 3) Lyndon Johnson -Report on the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. 4) Whistleblower John White on Gulf of Incident. 5) LBJ announce Vietnam increase and rise in draft. 6) Violent racism during peaceful protests in the Civil Rights Movement. 7) President Lyndon Johnson using the N word. 8) The Truth about the Vietnam War (PragerU) 9) US bombing civilian village, actual footage 10) US troops spray Agent Orange from riverboat in Vietnam. 11) Veteran tells why the Vietnamese hate him 12) A US Vietnam Soldier Describes his Experiences of War Crime. 13) Incident Hill 192 14) My Lai Masscre (History) Ngô Đình Diệm was a educated Vietnamese politician who was appointed by Vietnam Emperor Bảo Đại Nguyễn and France as President of South Vietnam and US President JF Kennedy and LB Johnson had him killed. Truman was the US President who got American involved when he offer military support to the French troops in Vietnam by sending US military aids and along US MAAG to help train and assist the French troops against Ho Chi Minh and his Vietminh in 1950. While America was engaging in the Korean War since June 25, 1950 - July 27, 1953. This is how American got involved. And when France lost all claims to all of Indochina after loosing a major battle at Diên Biên Phu to Ho Chi Minh Vietminh in 1954. America did not leave Vietnam on the belief of the Southeast Asia dominos effect to communist. That belief was later change when a WWII Veteran JF Kennedy became US President in 1961 and LB Johnson was his Vice President and this happening during the Civil Rights Movement that was happening all across America over whites and blacks. Why I post this is because for years I'm tired Americans use Vietnam War as a Propaganda War story. Telling peoples that they there to help South Vietnam fight against communist North Vietnam. When America is the root cause for the Vietnam War and the downfall of South Vietnam.
Your communist BS is not welcome here because this narrator and video maker is not towing the Communist line like so many other idiots do. The US wasn't the root cause of the war, the Communists were the cause of the war.
In 1954, everything was poised for the French to depart and Ho Chi Minh to take leadership of all of Vietnam (there being only that idea of one Vietnam). It was deliberate US clandestine efforts that sabotaged that, and their continuing efforts that caused the war to go on into a far more vicious and brutal phase than the French could have imagined.
@lllordllloyd Nguyễn Văn Thiệu is an ex-Vietminh soldier to North Vietnamese Communist leader Ho Chi Minh. He also the South Vietnamese general who the CIA order to surround the capital of South Vietnam and assassinate the former South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem and his young brother Ngo Dinh Nhu on Nov 2, 1963. Nguyễn Văn Thiệu was promted as General of South Vietnamese army by the US and Ngo Dinh Diem was appointed by Vietnam Emperor Bảo Dai Nguyễn and France as President of South Vietnam in 1954. Ask why US promoted an ex-Vietminh soldier, Nguyễn Văn Thiệu as South Vietnamese General and later President of South Vietnam?
@lllordllloyd Ho Chi Minh was a tyrannical communist dictator who modeled himself after the only two dictators who ever killed more people than Hitler, Stalin and Mao. There would have been absolutely nothing good or Noble about letting him control South Vietnam. In fact his regime invaded two other innocent countries besides South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. He invaded those three countries simply to bring communist tyranny to all of them. Only a control freak with no respect for human rights would defend a man like that.
They didn't fight to be a socialist state. They fought to be an independent state and tried to align with the US but were rejected. Hence they aligned with the soviet's cause they needed help
@CasualHistorian I see, however are you able to do history on the partition of India because that would be something I would be interested in. Especially with what happened to the Princely States.
@@CasualHistorian That's cool because the history of the partition of India and the history behind Princely States of Hyderabad, Bhopal and Travancore's attempted bids for independence would be interesting to cover.
He's the first guy to tell the truth about the Communists and how evil they were and are in Vietnam. What is amazing is how the liberal left and the Communists apologists never say a word about how communist North Vietnam brought Pol Pot into power. The CIA and the US tried to stop Pol Pot but the liberal left wanted him to take over Cambodia which he eventually did. Only after the war ended and Pol Pot turned on his Vietnamese communist mentors did Vietnam invade Cambodia and the US reluctantly support the Camaro Rouge as a Plan B.
... or how the CIA invented "South Vietnam" and its governments! It's kind of important, but if you include the 1950s it becomes obvious the entire war was fraudulent.
I entered in your survey that i wanted a video explaining the sino vietnam War, but i feel like this video was too broad and covered a lot of topics in one video.
This is for your viewers on this video. There’s a saying in S. Vietnam “never believe what the N. Vietnamese communist say, but observe what they do!” They signed the Paris Peace Accord in Jan. 27, 1973(without representatives from S. Vietnam) to end the conflict in Vietnam. They didn’t honored the accord they signed and continued infiltrating into the South. This eventually led to the “Fall of Saigon” on April 30, 1975. Refugees from former S. Vietnam have always been grateful for the U.S. participation. It’s unfortunate we lost ~58K servicemen/servicewomen and walked away empty-handed. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Now consider US actions in 1954, and how they unilaterally destroyed the agreement that would have brought peace to Vietnam under the leadership under which it today prospers. Also, 1975 escapees are very far from representative of Vietnamese: they were the ones who had acquired the means or had reason to fear the change in government... they were often those who had been behind the endemic corruption that every US soldier noticed. Frozen in their time capsule, expatriate Vietnamese communities in the West maintain the rage. The millions in Vietnam who didn't run away are proud of those who fought and suffered so much for their freedom and peace and independence.
@@lllordllloyd I think you're wrong in some levels. The French and Viet Minh established a deal that divided Vietnam into two sections, but elections never came due to ideology differences between the two zones, similar to Korea. The US did nothing to that point except the evacuation of Vietnamese citizens to the South wanting to escape communism!
@@lunawolven2390 How do one know exactly what what the division rate were without actual voting taking place? Peoples back then really believed the communist are going to execute all catholic. Do you know why it taking so long for the second coming to arrived with all the war and plague and famine? Easy answer: The communist killed him.
@@lllordllloydThe Geneva Accords was made between the French and the Communist Vietnamese and not with the State of Vietnam that would later become the Republic of Vietnam.
I'm a US citizen. I live in Vietnam and my wife is born and raised from Hanoi. She was born in 1975 and thus grew up during this time. She ultimately was able to go abroad and get a doctorate degree in math, but she went through some unbelievable hardship before getting there. Vietnam now is a country that I'm sure US veterans and even some Viet kieu would not recognize.
DÂN TAO MÀ CẦN BỌN MÀY PHẢI THỪA NHẬN AH?
Stupid
I live in Da Nang, from USA, love VN!
I was stationed in Saigon 1971. Visited Vietnam with my grandson 5 years ago, A completely different country than it was. Many of the people who lived through the war have already died. It is ancient history to younger generations.
Your wife is lucky to be a Northerner; the entire South was raped, robbed, relocated after they took over.
I hope that you aren’t offended but I fall asleep to your videos. Sometimes it takes me a few nights to get through a whole episode. Thank you!
Watch time is watch time.
@@CasualHistorianMoney is money
@@CasualHistorian This isn't related but is that a picture of John Brown on your desk?
People who use this stuff for sleep aid several times, is several views. If anything, you're helping, buddy.
@@Autobotmatt428I believe so, I approve greatly
Don’t know if you have it planned, but a episode or series about the Khmer Rouge would be really interesting
Seconded!
@@jonathanmantle2364 Watch "The Killing Fields." Dith Pranh portrays Sidney Schamberg's assistant and driver. Or, look for the book, Phnom Penh Nancy. It's about a couple DC-8 freighter pilots that flew in there one last time.
Post war Vietnam should be discussed more in Vietnam war lessons in schools. After all it isn’t discussed as much as the us withdrawal after the war.
NC high school history teacher. It can't really be any more than a bullet point in World History (not enough time in a semester), and it's not pertinent to US History courses. However, we do talk about it in my Lessons of the Vietnam War course.
Vietnamese here. Although we dont talk much about Vietnam post war, our history teacher did sometime talk about this topic. They wont go into detail but they said if we want to learn more, we can search on the internet.
They won't - it's a communist worker's paradise now - just what the wokists strive to turn the West into - can't have that, first need to trick the people a bit more....
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This video is pretty spot on. I was a refugee from South Vietnam in 1975. Thank you.
L rip bozo
Woke media always tried to portray American Viets as just of jobless migrants fresh off the boat... As a third generation Vietnamese-American, nothing is more better than enjoying the woke racist mental breakdown because Vietnamese Americans are the most successful hardworking law-abiding ethnicity and 2/3 of us voted Trump and DeSantis this election
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I wish you would finish this video to include the Viet Nam in the present day. I have been back and am amazed how they have developed and are so welcoming to Americans. It has become a great country to visit.
Doesn't quite suit the "vengeful communist dictatorship massacring everybody" idea, does it? It is more beautiful and dignified than it's more pro-Western neighbours, and the national resources are not being shipped away by tax-evading European and US companies.
As Vietnamese people say to me, "What could we have been without 30 years of war?".
Certainly took generations to fix their mistakes.
@@ChristopherSobieniak can you tell me what the mistake? (im serious)
Ông bạn này rất tôn trọng khách quan
@@binhnguyen-jd4ry ?
I worked with a guy from Vietnam for a couple of years, in 2000 or so. I had by that point seen every American film on the Vietnam war, so was a little more versed in the history of his country, than say most of the other people working there.
One day the 2 of us were mucking about out of the sight of any of the managers, in the back of the restaurant. For whatever reason i cried out to him " Me no VeeCee, Me no VeeCee".
He stopped and looked at me with a panicked look on his face, he said "where did you learn to say that?". I explained to him that almost every film on his country i had seen, had someone saying that phrase. (usually followed by something bad happening to them).
I asked him his thoughts on the war. His reply astonished me.
He felt no ill will, to the people, or the country of America. To his generation (He was born in 75) the west was about as "cool" as it got. So cool infact he decided to leave his country (and all his family) and settle in the west, and start a new life.
He told me a story about chewing gum. How the coolest thing was to be seen chewing gum. Chewing gum, was in short supply, and expensive. So the kids would chew chickens feet (or bits of), and pretend it was gum.
A lovely warm hardworking guy. (but he did like to gamble. OMG did he liked to gamble)
That's kinda heartwarming.
He's a southern traitor.
Nice comment ! Usually very long comments (that look like essays) are almost always lame, but yours was the exception to the rule. 👍
Cheers !
Nah often times enemies become best friends. Vietnam and USA are going to be best friends. @ERRATAS0707
Vietnamese & East asians love for gambling is a true stereotype.
Im delighted that Vietnam is gaining more attention to it’s post-Vietnam war period aswell it’s ancient history lately on YT.
Younger people need to remember that there were two Vietnam's back then, just like two Korea's (even today), two Germany's, two Ireland's and several other around the world.
North Vietnam won the war basically by outlasting the USA, finally conquering South Vietnam some three years after the US had withdrawn. The Russians and the Chinese kept supplying NV while the US Congress halted all aid for SV. Thus, NV won.
Under French occupation, from 1850 to 1954, there was only one Vietnam too. When the French were beaten at Dien Bien Phu, the peace negotiations in Geneva gave the French two years to leave and drew a line, south of which the French could gather their stuff, it was not the border between two countries. Of course those who had collaborated with the French followed them but no matter, two years later, in 1956, the peace treaty had ordered elections would be held on both sides and no matter who won, the two parts would be united in a single country again. Of course, it was clear that Hô Chi Minh would win so the US, through Edward Lansdale, advised Diem to cancel that election and organized one in the south only. Diem, got 112% of the votes, the US claimed south Vietnam was a legitimate country and that the North was a vicious communist dictatorship that needed to be eliminated. In fact, Hô was a fan of the US democracy and got weapons from the communists but he was much more of a nationalist than a communist and the US, seen as just another invader ended up fighting the people of the south as much as the North. The Vietnamese from both sides wanted to be free, and be one country again, it was divided for only twenty years, by a US coup.
@@rosesandsongs21 So say some, others disagree, including many Vietnamese from the south. Since you gave me a history lesson, I'll give you one. Historically, northern Vietnam was more Chinese/Buddhist dominated and southern Vietnam was closer to Cambodia and more Catholic and "Western". As I said, back then there were two Germany's, two Yemen's, two Koreas (still are), two Irelands (still are), etc.
Oh by the way it was not divided by a US coup - you're reading slanted history. Besides, I was focusing on the war, the military operations. From that perspective, SV was doing quite well in the 1971-72 timeframe. SV could have wound up like South Korea - a great success.
@rosesandsongs21 Referendums in war torn parts of the World are a bad idea as either armed camp can and do intimidate the electorate into voting for them and besides millions of Vietnamese already voted with their feets in 1954 by leaving territories that were to be handed over to Ho Chi Minh and Ho Chi Minh has had send his troops to block a lot of them from leaving.
Yes, America is very famous at betrayal a friend !!
So be an America's enemy is alot easier than be a friend with !
@@gsr4535 they litteral legal prosituite,coup like every damn time they have a chance why would you think how they gonna make it like s.korea?
Hey thanks for making these videos! I love learning more about history.
Few fleed to Philippines there who seek refuge are now Filipino citizens
FLED and not FLEED !!!!!
@@anthonytran7566 thanks for the correction
@@CARL_093 you are welcome bro.
No. There were two refugee camps. The one in Morong in the P.I. had over 10,000 people.
I was always interested into more people talking about post war Vietnam, especially discussing events such as the Montagnard genocide.
Bạn có nhầm không? Nạn diệt chủng người Thượng? Họ bây giờ còn được ưu tiên hơn người Kinh. Được miễn phí học hành. Được ưu tiên nằm trong bộ máy quản lý nhà nước ở địa phương. Được hỗ trợ y tế và chính sách an sinh xã hội. Tôi đang sống chung với họ đây. Thậm chí họ còn có kênh tivi tiếng riêng của họ. Sự kiện bạn nhắc tới là gì? Tôi chưa từng nghe mặc dù tôi sống ở đây khá lâu rồi.
I enjoyed this topic along. My father served in Vietnam as a crew dog on a B-52.
We hosted a family who were boat ppl at our church. I also worked with Cambodians who lost family due to Pol Pot.
im live in Vietnam and here my recomments. If you don't care about corrupt goverment, poor healthcare system, dirty foods, trash everywhere, cheap labour, poor kids, old people or disable people laying on the ground begging for money,... and you have alots of money then VIetnam is a heaven for you
I agree with your remarks about what the Vietnamese society is really like. People say Vietnamese food is good, but they don't know how it is prepared. My overseas-born son was afflicted with diarrhoea after eating a beefsteak in the restaurant of an expensive hotel. Definitely this is not a holiday destination for me. For the reasons cited in your comment.
This Christmas in particular, top-ranked officials have been visiting and courting the catholic clergy 'to demonstrate the good relationship between the Vatican and our country'. Words are around the VCP wants to have a say in who can be ordained as a priest or higher. The same thing has happened in China. State-ordained clergymen. lol
@@thomastruong8382 Regarding to your son's incident at an expensive hotel, if many people got diarrhoea after having the steak then it's definitely food contamination. But if your son was the only having it then it's likely that the issue is specifically to him i.e that's how his body reacted to an ingredient in the deal that he was not exposed to in the US.
I was in the US Navy in 1981 and we picked up 1100 "boat people" (refugees from Vietnam) Feb 1981. One of the refugees was a former ARVN Maj. who was an intel officer. He told us he was shocked how many friends, relatives, fellow ARVN were traitors, spies etc...When the North won in 1975 he went into hiding. He said the former ARVN traitors were some of the first people rounded up and shot or tossed into camps. He stayed on the run until he escaped with his family, friends, on a boat. I have gone to our ship's runions a few times and talked to some of the people we picked up. They have done well for themselves and thanked us for saving them.
What a load of BS! Yeah makes sense the people that helped the north were shot (those evil commies) and the guy somehow manage to hide. As if the Vietnamese government at the time did not had all the files of people who were fighting in the south army, mainly of officers. If you believe that kind of BS you probably also believe that there were WMDs under saddam bedroom and because of that they needed to invade iraq.
Most likely he lied about the rounding up and shot thing. I have read a lot of accounts of the aftermath and never once that was mentioned.
@@Krasnoye158 No. He and the other 1100 boat people we picked up said the same thing. You don't see a million plus people jump on old fishing boats if the Communists were nice people. They were mass killers.
Yeah, he was lying. I have 2 out of 3 uncles who been to the camp since they severed in the ARVN, they just stayed there for 1-2 weeks and went home, they tell me that it was just to study politics, ideologies which they pretty didn't pay attention or forgot by now since it doesn't matter anymore as they are living a normal life. Don't trust those South Vietnamese refugees, they're Catholics, they just hate the communist because their Catholic overly privilege status were taken away, the former South Vietnamese government pretty religion-biased.
@@no-bodymr6419 Not sure of their religion but they were telling the truth. They matched what the Communists did in North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, South Vietnam, PR China, USSR, Poland and other Eastern European countries what happens when the Communists seize power. The Catholics were much more aware of the danger of the Communists than the Buddhists. The Buddhists let themselves were used by the Communists and then wham! They got locked up or killed. Especially in Cambodia.
Thank you for making this video. I’ve been wondering what the hell happened in Vietnam after we left for a while now. this video was perfect.
Even though the Saigon was renamed to Ho Chi Min City but IATA airport code is still SGN.
IATA is just an industry body or trade association, actual regulations are through ICAO. VVTS is the actual airport code pilots use, basically only ticket and baggage handling system use the IATA codes now.
Saigon and Ho Chi Minh are both use in Vietnam dude , even the largest new paper of Saigon are call Saigon giai phong, Saigon ain't a taboo name for the city , local here use it to call the real Saigon ans it old district and ho chi Minh City for the current city ( which add few more district and size quadruple compare to old Saigon )
no more stalingrade - one day the same
Gia Định is a better name
Just like Saigon - Gia Định. When we change the city name, we keep the old name as a sub name
This was a good pleasant watch on postwar Vietnam. I had no idea how badly the south were treated after the war.
No better than Berlin
exactly, as a Vietnamese, this is so overlooked, there are reasons why diaspora still hate communist
Those who associated with the South regime and Americans. Literally normal people who supported the North were fine
What do you expect? A war would be colorful rainbow?
@@RealCaptainVN I was told there would be Unicorns
An aspect of the post Vietnam syndrome that you overlooked was how it affected the US deployment to Lebanon from 1982-1984. The fear of commitment and unwillingness to use force led to the deaths of 273 Americans and became the roots of what would become the Global War on Terror. I served in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983 and my sons served in Iraq from 2005-2009. Vietnam syndrome shaped foreign policy in a way that led to an absolute debacle in the Middle East throughout the 1980s and took us all the way to 9/11.
Actually, that was covered... in his videos on Lebanon
@@safetysandals I was thinking more along the lines of how the Vietnam Syndrome affected military conduct in Lebanon... but maybe I missed something. I will have to go back and review. Thanks.
Rapid-fire, packed with info critical to a more complete understanding of this time & place... excellent presentation!
My brothers father in law and his whole family were put in reeducation camps by the north becasue his father was a clerk in a government office. Father in law managed to escape prison because he befriended the guards and they didnt cut all his hair off so he didnt look like the other prisoners and eventually made his way to Indonesia and then the US. Unfortunately his father died in prison and most of his brothers were kept in prison till the late 80's and one till the early 90's. They all moved to the US eventually.
So your relative went to Batam as a boat man? I’m sorry my country only helps you little bit.
@yodaeee i don't know the specifics of how he got to Indonesia. I know some Catholic group helped him get there or helped him once he was there. I'd assume he got there on a boat though.
The Catholics were the most implacable enemies of the nationalists (not just the communists) having fought for the French, then having come south to shore up the brutal regime of Diem. And that's how so many plum government jobs went to Catholics. Who then used those positions to create the rampant corrupt state that was South Vietnam.
But, year, I'm sure he was just a clerk. I am sorry for his suffering, but I would be suspect of that history.
My grandfather was sent to re-education camp and his brother was a boatman, luckily both survived the ordeal!
@lllordllloyd He isn't Catholic. It was just who helped him out.
The Laos secret war, South Vietnam, the Royal military, Hmong, Huynh, chanps, monteneggard’s involvements. In relation to the NVA Vietcong’s China involvement . is another topic to delve into with the post war declassifications
Lol that spelling xD
"Montagnard". The "gna" in French is a "nya" sound like the ñ in Spanish.
Well, keep yapping
@@caseyreznovno1 rude
Thanks for posting! This is a really good video!
Once again, highly informative. Thank you for your videos!
Really cool video. Its hard for me to find topic that I dont know about as I read and watched a lot about history but this was mostly new for me. People always focus on big wars but hardly ever tell what happened after them.
I did the survey and realised i only had 'personalized' notifications on and that bell is now set for all uploads.
I only said your audio needed the most work because i had to select something. Your editing and storyteilling are excellent. Big fan of your work.
Thanks
Our local Barbershop is a family who escaped Vietnam by boat. They aren't shy about describing things they were forced to do or things they saw. The government and soldiers of North Vietnam weren't the plucky freedom fighters struggling for independence they are frequently portrayed to be. What happened to Southern Vietnam despite it's corruption was a tragedy.
@@NoManClatuer-pd8ck President Diem had no corrupt part in his bone. It was what lead to his assassination. Hence JFK went after the mafia, and the complex industry. Plus LBJ. Same outcome
And yet talking to people in Vietnam, old and young, it's completely different. You think a civil war (arguable) fought the way that war was was going to end with a handshake? What is remarkable is how little violence and revenge their was, and how quickly it was over.
@@lllordllloyd The violence and revenge came in the re-education camps and the policy against the Chinese population, it is never peaceful as many people thought!
@lllordllloyd I bet the people who went through "reeducation" feel otherwise.
@@lllordllloyd Im a Vietnamese, you should stop talking to facades, older people which don't want to talk ill about the gov and later generations which know nothing
Thanks, I always wondered what happened in Vietnam right after the war.
Thank you for this video! People in the USA weren't interested in that area after the fall of South Vietnam, so information from there was scarce.
Thanks for making content on a little discussed topic. Good work.
Love that picture of Nixon at 2:06. Pants around armpits, tie tucked into waist. Not fashionable even in the 70s.
Outstanding subject presented at a perfect pace. I learned a lot, thanks. Cas.
Very insightful more so then other documentaries that cover Vietnam
While i do love the ken burns doc, there were alot of details he glossed over post war.
Should have made an epilogue episode about that.
This was fascinating thanks! My Maori language teacher in school was a Vietnam vet, I think he said Pol Pot was the real problem with the region, so was interesting to learn they were battling the Khmer Rouge afterwards? Also thanks for providing a bibliography! 🤓
Polpot was supported by China, USA, Singapore and the UN. Which was why they sanctioned VN after VN "invaded" Cambodia to get rid of Polpot.
Thanks for another great video!
Thank you for watching
The treatmen of ethnic Chinese in southeast Asia reminds of anti-semitism in Europe
The difference is that China is an actual threat to Southeast Asian governments, whereas Israel isn't a threat to Europe.
The Chinese supported the Cambodian pol pot government. Which hated the Vietnamese with the same hate the nazis did to the jews.
@@CasualHistorian I was commenting more on historical anti-semtism but you're totally right
Both business-orientated, educated and successful, whilst ethnically different so easily identified and also easy to question their loyalty.
Sino-Soviet split was a big factor. China cozying up with USA, who actively bullying us with sanctions, for economic infusion didn't help either. "对越自卫还击保卫边疆作战" as they call it.
Oh wow I'm stoked to see this, this is something I suggested as a topic! :D Nice one dude!!
Love your videos keep it up!
Thanks
Great video as always!
Thanks
Fantastic work !
This documentary is one of the best I have ever seen on the subject! It seems like every damned video about the Vietnam war, the fall of Saigon and even the aftermath all seem to parrot the Communist liberal left-wing line one way or the other. In this video the narrator actually speaks honestly about the Communists and how truly horrible they really were and are. He doesn't whitewash it or try to blame America for their problems. I immediately subscribed after watching this video.
One other thing that impressed me about it was the mentioning of the resistance against the communists after the war ended. I looked all over UA-cam and the internet and I couldn't find any information about this anywhere. If you could please do a more in-depth video about the anti-communist post-war guerilla resistance I would be enthralled with that and forever thankful.
Biases confirmed = great history!
@@lllordllloyd Guy who studied Communism in Moscow = Trustworthy person
@@lllordllloyd yeah that's the majority of other Vietnam videos time I completely biased and whitewashing the bad guys.
@@tedmccarronWho betrayed Phan Boi Chau?
@@markgarrett3647 probably Ho Chi Minh.
thanks for the amazing vids as always. filling out the survey rn
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Thankyou for this study I have been ignorant of this these 50 years.
Decided to binge watch stuff concerning Vietnam and Cambodia because I plan to travel to possibly both in late May/early June 2025.
Wow..
Thank you for this one! The period between the Vietnam War and the 21st century has long been a gap in my knowledge. I would love more videos on southeastern Asia in general going forward, too!
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
A very good video! ❤
Really very good work. I would include this in HS history class. 👍👍👍
Great video!
I thought you might do a video of the third Indochina war that went on from
1 May 1975 - 23 October 1991 which is 16 years, 5 months, 3 weeks and 1 day
This resulted in two invasions and two border war skirmishes and two Insurgency’s.
Invasion of Kampuchea
Sino-Vietnamese War
Khmer Rouge insurgency
Sino-Vietnamese conflicts
Insurgency in Laos
Communist insurgency in Thailand
Am not criticising you and I am glad you have put a post fall of Saigon video on it’s just you’ve done videos on the Lebanese civil war , Sudan’s wars with the Southern Sudanese, I just thought you could put all 6 on one video.
I hope to do a more comprehensive series on the Indochina wars, but this vid is more of a overview of the 1975-1995 period.
Reagans invasion of Grenada was supposed to erase the guilt of losing the viet nam war.
We are a country defined by war.
I realised the Vietnam war ended when I saw my nike's were made in Vietnam. Nearly all sneakers are made there. This is worth exploring as to why.
Simply because many American companies outsource their manufacturing to countries where labor costs are much less expensive than in the USA. This isn’t such a big secret…many American corporations do this as a matter of course in order to increase their already obscene profits margins and not worry about labor protests and uprisings with American workers…
I even have US Army regulations complaint boots that were made in Vietnam lol
@Nathan-jh1ho amazing, when did all shoes start to be made in Nam,? I think I first saw it in the 90s. Just goes to show that war is just business .
Wolverine Boots, have been made in VIETNAM for years!! They are still expensive!! Now tons of American Brand oil filters are made in VIETNAM! The Quality is very good, and are manufactured by New machinery set up by American Companies!! American managers, and employees have been there to train Vietnamese employees, and managers!! Not only American Filter Companies, but German, and other filter companies have built Plants there!! Electronic, and Musical Instruments Companies have been there for years, and make really impressive Guitars, and Amplifiers there!! Even Marshall Amplifiers, a World Famous English Amplifier Manufacturer has Lines of Amps made in VIETNAM!! Companies are leaving China for Vietnam weekly!!! Quality control is alot better from what I've seen in VIETNAMESE Manufacturing than Chinese products!! I can't even begin to think of how many different types of things are being manufactured there, and sold in the USA!! Automotive Parts are really good Quality, and New Tires made in new State of the Art plants!! See the made in VIETNAM labeling more, and more!! An EV Automobile company owned by a Female Vietnamese Billionaire are currently building an EV Car Manufacturering Plant in NORTH CAROLINA!! Made in China is being Replaced by Made in VIETNAM!!! Check the labels, and you will see!!! Fine With Me!!!😉😉😉😉🤔🤔🤔🤔🙂😊
Hey, I just took the audience survey and just want to leave a small amount of feedback for you to consider.
I don't know how many people watch your channel that are like me... but I'm a stay-at-home-parent who uses a lot of your videos for homeschooling my children... Not many of the options you offered for things really fit my circumstance. For example, when you asked for my work-status, I left it completely blank since none of the options applied to me. I HATE calling myself "unemployed" since I do a lot of work every day to educate my kids... but I also recognize that my labor is unpaid, so I can't really claim "part time" or anything like that. Perhaps adding some "other" or "none-of-these" to some of your questions could help with stuff like that.
I also think some of your questions could use a "whatever makes you happy" option.... like when you asked me how long I prefer your videos to be... I wish I could have answered something like "it depends on the topic" or your question on what area you should improve... I don't really think you need much improvement?
Just some thoughts I wanted to throw out there. Take it or leave it. Either way, thank you for continuing to be a great educational resource in my life.
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Yo BASED! Stay-at-home home-schooling!
@@johnnotrealname8168*REALLY?* Sir, please GTFO. I was “home-schooled”, and I can promise you that it shall be this country’s undoing. The corrosive nature of kinder-home sequestration upon every putative student is unfathomable to a privileged mindset. Do you trust your health to home-schooled physicians? Lmao. 🤣
Dear purported parent: *WRONG MOVE!* You are going to have a hard time blaming others for the anger, resentment and contempt that your children will have for your hubristic behavior. Good luck. 😂
Unemployed means you are not employed, period. Are you employed by anyone ? If not, you're unemployed. Stop to care about "social" bad connotation or the "what people think" and just be honest with yourself.
Very interesting video there m8
It was never mentioned how evil Pol Pot was, having perpetrated, on a per capita basis, the worst genocide of modern times.
And I didn´t found any information on the short war between Vietnam and China.
@@ingemarsjoo4542 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War
7:23 "...having being labeled collaborators..." Of course they weren't. How can it be, that part of your country, occupied for 20 years by foreign military, has collaborators in charge of military crimes? Absolutely impossible!
"Nixon’s successor Gerald Ford went to Congress seeking $1.45 billion in aid for South Vietnam but was given only $700 million. In December Hanoi tested the new president’s mettle by launching an attack in Phuoc Long province, a clear violation of the Paris treaty. Ford protested but took no military action. The path was now clear for North Vietnam to invade the South." ----- We did not honor our promises to South Vietnam. The Nixon administration had pledged to use air power if the communists violated the peace agreement.. A Democrat Congress reneged on the promised and betrayed our ally. A very shameful moment in American history.
Đúng. Quá xấu hổ 😅
Have spoken of what you ate just saying and showing. Hardly any1 beleived me. ARVN AND THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE HERE KNOW ONLY ALL TO WELL OF THE EFFECTS OF COMMUNIST AFTER THE FALL OF SIAGON IN APRIL 30TH 1975. GRATATUDE TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. RESPECTS 🙏.
Then where are arvn goes 🤣
0:26 those who do not study history, repeats it.
This was very interesting. It was like a Paul Harvey "Rest of the story" for Vietnam. You should do one for Korea. Matter of fact, you should do a series on the Korean War, I haven't found one.
Good day!
Ending with Clinton was a downer. A lot has happened since then as far as the US is concerned. You could end with Obama's visit as a sitting President in 2016, or the US aircraft carrier visit in 2023, or the issues with China going on today.
Not much knew of the horrific atrocities during this period, the Phong Nhi Massacre, for example, perpetuated by the tiger forces unit from (Korea)
How about Mi Lai village massacre
@@fangzu612 pol pot? You also conveniently left out Dåk Son, home to 2,000 mountain highlanders, which was also known as the Dak Som Massacre, in revenge for the Montagnards support and allegiance to South Vietnam and Her Imperial Majesty’s…
@@fangzu612 Dåk Son Massacre in Dec 5 1967.
@@fangzu612 look up project 100,000 initiative. drafting those convicted of serious crimes like murder. Probably wasn’t a good policy decision. Hugh Thompson was the only one who filed an official report, spoke out against it
Except for spies, all South Vietnamese soldiers, politicians, and police officers were imprisoned, especially officers, in harsher re-education camps in the north.
That's not true. Normally South Vietnamese army personnel received about 1-2 weeks of re-education. Only 10000-15000 stayed in re-education camps for more than 2 years.
@@Krasnoye158 source from your head?
@@Krasnoye158 or source from viet cong?
@HNHanRyang the original commenter didn't provide any source either. It's the matter of what you chose to believe, then it is pointless to point the truth out to you.
There are numerous other commenters that point out their uncles in the ARVN only serve 1-2 weeks in re-education, which directly challenged HanRyang's comment.
@ also, you didn't provide any source to your comment 🤣 who are you trying to educate?
Judging from your name, you're Korean. Koreans committed many war crimes in VN, yet they came home and boasted about how great they were at "saving" people, so it is the case that you have absorbed a bit too much of their propaganda
Appreciate the work you and other historians do in actually examining topics like the Vietnam War and going further into the effects of said events on the modern day. In comparison, when Ken Burns, who was paid to create a series on Vietnam, gave poetic monologues about how the war changed America without explaining what exactly changed, and then glossing over 40 years of history after the fall of Saigon. I kid you not his PBS series ends with “Vietnam created education claps, then it became friends with the United States.” I can’t even recall if Burns discussed how China and Vietnam were never on the same page per se, fought each other, the rise of Pol Pot, and how the other surrounding nations got impacted in the aftermath of the Vietnam war. Heck, one podcast that I do enjoy “Lions led by Donkeys” did a whole segment on the Nixon Laos incursion that was stupid and immoral (seriously the White House was picking targets to attack in a basement), and it goes into who made the decisions, how said the said operation was carried out and what its effects were. As you can guess none of that was explored in the PBS series.
The China thing no. But he did briefly mention the war in Cambodia but not in full detail though.
@@Autobotmatt428 Vietnam is a very resilient nation, it survived over 1000 years of China colonization and invasion !!!!!
... which was especially lame as there have been several excellent Vietnam war TV series over the years, especially the PBS one. Burns is a historian for non historians (as is Max Hastings in this context, heavily relied on for this video, also).
@@anthonytran7566 Yeah it slowly became pro-China over the year, win-win for the Chinese so!
Great job, very informative!
Amazingly above huge US media , only your chanel tell the facts and truth about Viet Nam
Really good video. Found it very informative.
35:04 I think theres strong evidence that tens if not hundreds of live POWS were left behind in 1973. By ‘95 they were all likely dead. But I find this and the POWS clearly left behind in Korea a fascinating and haunting episode in American history.
Chuck Norris is not a good source, even when backed up by Sylvester Stallone.
@ I know it’s a joke but it’s actually a terrible stain on America’s relationship to it’s service men. Read, ‘Abandoned in place’, American Trophies’, ‘An Enormous Crime’. Very informative books on the subject.
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@@lllordllloydNor does Oliver Stone and Francis Ford Coppola.
As a descendant of exiles from Vietnam, I will tell you what happened after the war. The racist Vietnamese Communists persecuted then kicked out much of Vietnam's top educated and skilled, like my grandparents for the crime of merely being Chinese.
We did not kick yall, our policies after the reunification are included all foreigners lived and worked in Vietnam must get Vietnamese nationality, but majority refused and even raised Chinese flag, moreover, Chinese had so much influences in economy, espcially in South, this posed a threat to Vietnam, so yea we forced you to leave instead of kicked you
@@Vinhvnhd2k7 Most of Vietnam's Chinese community are not foreigners. Many of us, like my family can trace our line within the nation before Vietnam was ever a country. You Vietnamese are not native to Vietnam either. The Han emperor relocated the Vietnamese and many Chinese to the region, to develop it thousands of years ago. All modern scholars agree with that, even my American history professor agrees. My people have a right to prosper in Vietnam as much as your people do.
It was necessary to expel the Chinese because at that time the Chinese had taken over the entire economy. They began to rebel, demanding to separate into an autonomous government and even hung a large picture of Mao Zedong in Chợ Lớn
@theawesomeman9821 but the problem is that if u live in a nation, u must follow the nation's rules, majority of you guys failed to follow in 1976, which led to the Chinese migration back to China, and also we are not racist, in the law said that all types of people(black,white,yellow...etc) are equal to live together in Vietnam as long as they follow the laws
@@Vinhvnhd2k7 very few Chinese I knew refused to obey Vietnamese laws, your government did everything in its power to fail my people, like forcing Chinese to obtain a work permit within a week's notice of issue, though it takes months to get through the process. The way your government treated the Chinese was unfair. The French and Americans were way more reasonable to my people.
I really love your videos and themes are very interesting,from Russia with love to you)
Thank you
32:53 There were so many short conflicts during the Reagan era.
I've read that Cambodia became Vietnam's "Vietnam." That is to say, a quagmire that cost lives with little progress. Of course, you could argue that the Vietnamese did achieve their goal in that the Khmer Rouge never returned to power in Cambodia.
I always wonder what happened to our interpreter. He worked for the CIA before he worked for us. Nice guy but that was in another life now.
America can never learn from Vietnam because we never told ourselves the truth about it. I read histories and they never match what I saw there. The only people who knew what really happened were the guys on the ground and we were silenced by the government for 50 years before they started thanking us for our service and now 75% of us are dead. So we continue to keep making the same mistakes and pissing off more and more people around the world.
Does anyone know what finally happened to the escaping Air Vietnam DC-6 parked at a remote ramp at Clark Air Base? Rumors said no government wanted any involvement. I saw it for several years after 1976, maybe somebody salvaged the engines, I know the environmental compressor enabling it to fly above 10000 ft was hard to find and expensive.
Which book is being referenced in this video?
All of my sources are listed in the description below, along with footnotes.
7:23 they werent ? I mean sure 1 or 2 innocent people caught in the crossfire but considering how badly the south vietnamese government treated its own people and there were people those that worked for it willingly would be the first target of what the northerners would consider, retribution.
You handled a sensitive topic very well. Thank you
You fail to make mention of the role of the Australian government in the rebuilding of Vietnam and the de-Americanistion of the country. Australia signed a declaration with Vietnam whereby any refugees that sought protection in Australia would be allowed to retain their Vietnamese citizenship and would be allowed to return without sanction. Australia also bankrolled the Vietnamese national airline and would run it for 30 years. It would rewrite the justice system and for a tolerance of opposition parties in government. The model it used was from its own which is probably the most respected political system in the world with solid separations of powers and an independent judiciary. The result today is a country that is the envy of its neighbours and so long as you are not an American, has the welcome mat firmly out.
You are right. There was (justifiably) a great deal of remorse in Australia for our participation in the dirty American war in Vietnam (and consequently a rise in anti-American sentiment), and the Whitlam Labor government made great strides in improving relations with the SRV. That policy continued under the following Fraser conservative government . Malcolm Fraser was at heart a very decent man and an idealist, as shown by his firm opposition to the apartheid regime in South Africa, and in his later years he openly condemned the Vietnam War and warned against our entanglement with the US. Alas, how things have changed..
N.Vietnam did to S. Vietnam what all nations need to do to all who are conquered, you eliminate all opposition and re-educate those that remain.
Any opposition will always rise up against you, Hitler, Mao and Stalin knew this from history!!
so?
As someone from Vietnam, I agree with you. Unfortunately, to most (formerly) North Vietnamese officials (civilian and military), they truly believe in the process of 're-education', being indoctrinated and brainwashed by the Vietnamese Communist Party's narrative.
Holy crap this is good. Good job guys.
i love this channel
800,000 people left Vietnam in 5 years. That's pretty low in latinamerica standart.
Excellent research. As a Viet Hoa who lived near the border of China when I was 4 years old, now I know how and why I am now in the US. So fortunate. Thank you.
I'd like to see much of the same sort of coverage of US forces in the Caribbean
After visiting Vietnam in October, I couldn't help but notice a disconnect between the old communists and the very young population at large. The every day people were happy, welcoming, helpful, and optimistic. The communist government seemed like the Evil Empire keeping the population in check. Is communist control still necessary? Could their fierce nationalism be enough? The merchants seemed to have no problem with Americans as we spent our money and then left. The obvious westernization of Vietnam goes on and that's bringing prosperity. But don't worry, Spirit Airlines doesn't fly there!
You say as if communism is bad lol. Maybe you're living with communism unknowingly.
And now, US-Vietnamese cooperation has begun further increasing due to China's increasing and aggressive attempts to increase its influence in the region.
Thank you, great video. I visited Vietnam recently as a part of a 2 week Asian cruise. I felt so bad not remembering anything about the history & war of Vietnam. Should have seeked out this video before the trip, I appreciate everything I experienced about the country & people so much more now.
The video is less than 2 weeks old. You couldn't have looked it up.
Lose the “music.” Good face-paced dense content such as yours deserves NOT to be distracted from by nonsensical soundtracks. Thanks
The truth about the Vietnam War that was never fully told. United States had No intention of winning the Vietnam War from the very beginning. Fear it might become like the Korean War with mass continuing Communist Chinese troops from China pouring against American military force in Vietnam. And the threat of a thermal nuclear War with the Soviet Union. Why the Vietnam War was never officially declare, why only 500,000 US ground troops was sent to fight in Vietnam, and why US never sent any US ground force past the 17th parallel into North Vietnam. The Vietnam War started during the Civil Rights movement and racial tension between whites and blacks all across America. Several members in the US government were segregationist and they had their eyes dumping their Blacks problem on Vietnam with the chaos that was happening in Vietnam at that time between Communist North Vietnam and South Vietnam. At that time, the South Vietnamese had 250,000 troops and North Vietnamese had 60,000 troops and the DMZ line had already been establish at the 17th parallel. Many Vietnamese peoples from both North and South did Not support going to War and killing each other over the idea of Communist. Even though several North and South Vietnamese leaders believe Vietnam should Not be divided and try to distrupt one another. But they couldn't rally enough support among the Vietnamese peoples in Vietnam to support going to War. Until Nov. 2, 1963 When US President JF Kennedy and LB Johnson order his CIA to stage a military coup assasination on a catholic South Vietnamese President, Ngô Đình Diệm and his young brother Ngô Đình Nhu. This action give America the power to do what ever they want to Vietnam and to the Vietnamese peoples. And the US appointed an ex-Vietminh soldiers for Ho Chi Minh, Nguyễn Văn Thiệu as their puppet South Vietnamese President. The South Vietnamese President who cause the lives of 500,000 South Vietnamese troops killed or capture by the North Vietnamese army and their communist allies The Pathet Lao army, and the Communist Khmer Rouge army of Cambodia when he order them to be station and patrol in Kampuchea. And who told Nguyễn Văn Thiệu to do so? The United States, fear more Americans troops will be killed in Kampuchea. 20 days after the military coup assassination of South Vietnamese President Ngô Đình Diệm and his young brother Ngô Đình Nhu. US President JF Kennedy was assasinated in Dallas, TX on Nov 22, 1963 and LB Johnson was sworn in as the 36th US President. On Aug 10, 1964, US President LB Johnson declare US military action to Vietnam over an alleged attack on a US destroyer, Maddox that was on patrol past the 17th parallel near Hanoi, the capital of North Vietnam. While supporting the South Vietnam. 500,000 US ground troops was sent to fight in Vietnam. 40% of those US troops that were sent to fight in Vietnam were adult blacks male along with high school drop out white male, non-college white male, trouble teen white male, and white convict male were all sent to fight in Vietnam. And when these US troops arrive in Vietnam and they did their "Search and Destroyed mission." The Communist North Vietnam gain mass support for their cause and their army grew from 60,000 troops to over 1,000,000 troops. On March 16, 1968, several group of US platoons military unit rape and massacre 500 Vietnamese villagers of women, childrens, and old peoples at the village called My Lai during their Search and Destroyed mission. When news and image of My Lai massacre broadcast all across America. There was a mass out cry of protest all across America. Demanding all US millitary force pull out of Vietnam. This lead to Republican Presidential candidate Richard Nixon winning the Nov. 3, 1968 US Presidential election. The following year, when Richard Nixon took office. His 1st President excutive order was to pull out all US military force out of Vietnam. By then, the communist North Vietnamese army was already infiltrate all over in South Vietnam and attacking every since the Tet offensive that happen on Jan 30, 1968 - Sept 23, 1968. President Nixon order a nonstop US B52 bombers to bombed Hanoi, the capital of North Vietnam and its seaport military supply, Haiphong. This halted the advance of the North Vietnamese army taking over all of South Vietnam. The South Vietnamese army began retaking back many city and town from Communist North Vietnam in the South. But all that end, on August 8, 1974, when US President Richard Nixon made a televise annoucement of his resignation as US President to American peoples over the Watergate Scandal. A few month later on Nov 5, 1974, the Democrats party won a landslide in both in the US Senate and the House of Representative. The following year in 1975, the newly elected Democrats took their seat in Congress. The 1st bill of law pass was to cut off all US military funding to South Vietnam. This action cause the Fall of Saigon, the capital of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 to communist North Vietnam. Thus began a mass flow of Vietnamese refugee fleeing out of Vietnam. 10 of thousands of Vietnamese refugee died at sea from hunger, thirst, illness, Thai pirates, and Chinese warships. Today over 100's of thousands young South Vietnamese childrens are born of birth defect from the US toxic biological chemical, Agent Orange which the US military spray all over rivers and forest of South Vietnam. 3,000,000 innocent Vietnamese civilians of women, childrens, and old peoples had to die in their country during the Vietnam War. The Vietnam War is the worse United States War Crime in history. From Truman, JF Kennedy and LB Johnson were all were WWI and WWII veteran who sent the next young American men to become killers. Here is proof of documentary video on how and who started the Vietnam War and you can see it and hear it for yourself on UA-cam video. Here are name of the video title:
1) LBJ Admits assassinating Diem (1967)
2) JFK Speak of Diem Coup -Whitehouse Tapes Assassination.
3) Lyndon Johnson -Report on the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
4) Whistleblower John White on Gulf of Incident.
5) LBJ announce Vietnam increase and rise in draft.
6) Violent racism during peaceful protests in the Civil Rights Movement.
7) President Lyndon Johnson using the N word.
8) The Truth about the Vietnam War (PragerU)
9) US bombing civilian village, actual footage
10) US troops spray Agent Orange from riverboat in Vietnam.
11) Veteran tells why the Vietnamese hate him
12) A US Vietnam Soldier Describes his Experiences of War Crime.
13) Incident Hill 192
14) My Lai Masscre (History)
Ngô Đình Diệm was a educated Vietnamese politician who was appointed by Vietnam Emperor Bảo Đại Nguyễn and France as President of South Vietnam and US President JF Kennedy and LB Johnson had him killed. Truman was the US President who got American involved when he offer military support to the French troops in Vietnam by sending US military aids and along US MAAG to help train and assist the French troops against Ho Chi Minh and his Vietminh in 1950. While America was engaging in the Korean War since June 25, 1950 - July 27, 1953. This is how American got involved. And when France lost all claims to all of Indochina after loosing a major battle at Diên Biên Phu to Ho Chi Minh Vietminh in 1954. America did not leave Vietnam on the belief of the Southeast Asia dominos effect to communist. That belief was later change when a WWII Veteran JF Kennedy became US President in 1961 and LB Johnson was his Vice President and this happening during the Civil Rights Movement that was happening all across America over whites and blacks. Why I post this is because for years I'm tired Americans use Vietnam War as a Propaganda War story. Telling peoples that they there to help South Vietnam fight against communist North Vietnam. When America is the root cause for the Vietnam War and the downfall of South Vietnam.
Your communist BS is not welcome here because this narrator and video maker is not towing the Communist line like so many other idiots do. The US wasn't the root cause of the war, the Communists were the cause of the war.
Vietnam war happened because white colonizers didn't want Asian people to have their own country free from slavery
In 1954, everything was poised for the French to depart and Ho Chi Minh to take leadership of all of Vietnam (there being only that idea of one Vietnam).
It was deliberate US clandestine efforts that sabotaged that, and their continuing efforts that caused the war to go on into a far more vicious and brutal phase than the French could have imagined.
@lllordllloyd Nguyễn Văn Thiệu is an ex-Vietminh soldier to North Vietnamese Communist leader Ho Chi Minh. He also the South Vietnamese general who the CIA order to surround the capital of South Vietnam and assassinate the former South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem and his young brother Ngo Dinh Nhu on Nov 2, 1963. Nguyễn Văn Thiệu was promted as General of South Vietnamese army by the US and Ngo Dinh Diem was appointed by Vietnam Emperor Bảo Dai Nguyễn and France as President of South Vietnam in 1954. Ask why US promoted an ex-Vietminh soldier, Nguyễn Văn Thiệu as South Vietnamese General and later President of South Vietnam?
@lllordllloyd Ho Chi Minh was a tyrannical communist dictator who modeled himself after the only two dictators who ever killed more people than Hitler, Stalin and Mao. There would have been absolutely nothing good or Noble about letting him control South Vietnam. In fact his regime invaded two other innocent countries besides South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. He invaded those three countries simply to bring communist tyranny to all of them. Only a control freak with no respect for human rights would defend a man like that.
2:25 how can Gerald Ford be both “House minority leader “ and vp?
I just want to say, for the algorithm, that this is an excellent video.
How nice of the Vietcong to offer free education to the collaborators
>fights a war for 20 years to be a socialist state
>liberalizes their economy within a decade
- Sigma Vietnamese grindset
They didn't fight to be a socialist state. They fought to be an independent state and tried to align with the US but were rejected. Hence they aligned with the soviet's cause they needed help
@@SR-pr2xz You do what best for your nation and people as always !!!!!
@@SR-pr2xzexactly. Ho Chi Minh was Vietnamese first and a socialist second
Declaring ourself socialist was the easiest way to get foreign aid from the anti-US block bro. Worked like a charm
@@SR-pr2xzExactly but so many people can't get that through their heads.
I’ve been trying to find a good aftermath video of the war. Not as easy to find
I think you should do an alternate history series on this channel.
I've done alternate history before, and the viewers of this channel aren't super interested in it from me.
@CasualHistorian I see, however are you able to do history on the partition of India because that would be something I would be interested in. Especially with what happened to the Princely States.
Eventually
@@CasualHistorian That's cool because the history of the partition of India and the history behind Princely States of Hyderabad, Bhopal and Travancore's attempted bids for independence would be interesting to cover.
@@Shroob12-ii8il I mean strictly speaking some Princely-States continued existing.
12:17 never knew there was resistance movements by former ARVN after the fall of Saigon. Thanks for that tidbit.
Very good.
Truly amazing he made no mention of the CIA or how the USA backed Pol Pot in Cambodia
He's the first guy to tell the truth about the Communists and how evil they were and are in Vietnam. What is amazing is how the liberal left and the Communists apologists never say a word about how communist North Vietnam brought Pol Pot into power. The CIA and the US tried to stop Pol Pot but the liberal left wanted him to take over Cambodia which he eventually did. Only after the war ended and Pol Pot turned on his Vietnamese communist mentors did Vietnam invade Cambodia and the US reluctantly support the Camaro Rouge as a Plan B.
... or how the CIA invented "South Vietnam" and its governments! It's kind of important, but if you include the 1950s it becomes obvious the entire war was fraudulent.
@@lllordllloyd The CIA didn't make Diem eliminate the numerous Bihn Xuyen criminal syndicates in Saigon.
I entered in your survey that i wanted a video explaining the sino vietnam War, but i feel like this video was too broad and covered a lot of topics in one video.
This is for your viewers on this video. There’s a saying in S. Vietnam “never believe what the N. Vietnamese communist say, but observe what they do!” They signed the Paris Peace Accord in Jan. 27, 1973(without representatives from S. Vietnam) to end the conflict in Vietnam. They didn’t honored the accord they signed and continued infiltrating into the South. This eventually led to the “Fall of Saigon” on April 30, 1975.
Refugees from former S. Vietnam have always been grateful for the U.S. participation. It’s unfortunate we lost ~58K servicemen/servicewomen and walked away empty-handed. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Now consider US actions in 1954, and how they unilaterally destroyed the agreement that would have brought peace to Vietnam under the leadership under which it today prospers.
Also, 1975 escapees are very far from representative of Vietnamese: they were the ones who had acquired the means or had reason to fear the change in government... they were often those who had been behind the endemic corruption that every US soldier noticed.
Frozen in their time capsule, expatriate Vietnamese communities in the West maintain the rage. The millions in Vietnam who didn't run away are proud of those who fought and suffered so much for their freedom and peace and independence.
@@lllordllloyd I think you're wrong in some levels. The French and Viet Minh established a deal that divided Vietnam into two sections, but elections never came due to ideology differences between the two zones, similar to Korea. The US did nothing to that point except the evacuation of Vietnamese citizens to the South wanting to escape communism!
@@lunawolven2390 How do one know exactly what what the division rate were without actual voting taking place? Peoples back then really believed the communist are going to execute all catholic. Do you know why it taking so long for the second coming to arrived with all the war and plague and famine? Easy answer: The communist killed him.
@@lllordllloydThe Geneva Accords was made between the French and the Communist Vietnamese and not with the State of Vietnam that would later become the Republic of Vietnam.
I love the portrait of John Brown. Yes!
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