Playing with a good reed, one can play for hours without tiring or being sore. I do see potential applications of it protecting the reed from getting snagged, bumped into, or broken though. Reeds were mechanically broken way more than over worn as a child.
Thank you for posting this video! This looks really interesting. I'm going to give the "coffee stirrers" a try first, though, given my tight budget. The side effect of lessening the amount of embouchure pressure used and increased level of wind support is particularly fascinating. I've been experimenting with doing less with the embouchure, such as using "breath attacks." Another idea I'm thinking of trying is to try and find some convenient movement that will flex the lips a bit as part of my taking a breath, with the idea that this will increase blood circulation slightly. Every little bit helps? Nice touch, ending with the Telemann duet! I love playing those pieces, but they are also embouchure killers, for me. So, the perfect demo, at least for me. I love the humor in your videos--am looking forward to checking out others in your channel.
Glad you are enjoying yourself and being inspired to try things out. Give the coffee stirrers a try. I also have found that doing beatbox helps relax my lip muscles and tongue 😁as strange as it might sound. I see as those weird sounding exercises singers do. The obofit is pretty neat tool, give it a try at some point if you can but it's totally not a must.
@@BeyondOboe - The piece was familiar, I realize now that it is from the Concerto for Two Violins. Beautifully done. I hope my attempt at humor (mixing beat box and Bach) did not offend.
I wonder if this works well for North American players as I’m sure there is a difference in embouchure from European players due to the scrape of the reed. I’m also curious if this could remedy the bad habit of a “smiling embouchure” by preventing the corners of the mouth from moving upward.
I am sure it would help with the "smiling". I also think that even if you play long scrape there is still optimal angle range and it shouldn't be too low, my personal opinion. Long scrape doesn't mean low angle, again my opinion and everyone is free to do whatever they like.
Thank you Marin for sharing this. So I've got one of those too, the "original" model, and had very good experiences. I'm able to play longer, with a softer, even sound across the range, including jumps and reeds that I thought were worn out worked magically again. There's no need to get the "plus" model I find, since wrapping the original one with a few rounds of teflon tape accomplishes the same, yet is even more flexible as you can find a thickness, that works best for you. Besides, Marin, I wonder if you have an update on how regularly you use it in you practice, or even on stage?
Thanks for your comment! I am happy to see you are experiencing some benefits with the Obofit. I would agree in what you are sharing as experience. Me personally I use it once in a while when I do my scales and technical exercises, I don't intend to perform on stage with it at this point. I see it more as a training/additional tool that helps me final results and not something that I would get dependent on playing all the time with.
Marin, I don’t understand. Do you have a new channel, or is this a second channel of yours?I have been playing for 3yrs now and would like to try one of these. I can’t afford to buy both so do you recommend the original or the plus? My mouth definitely gets tired by the end of a 2-2 1/2hr rehearsal, to the point where I can hardly sound the notes. Thanks!
It's the same channel, I simply changed the name to Beyond Oboe. You definitely don't need 2 of them, I would either get the student or the original one to start with. The plus is for a bit more advanced training.
My wonderful teacher in Switzerland always suggested us to use two wood stirrers for coffee on each side of your embochure (the same as you would do with the OboFit) and it helps SO much! Maybe you can try that if you can't afford the OboFit 😀
Hello M. Tinev, what fasson do uou use for your M2 oboe? Is it a M or a S head? With which staple ? and lenght of tying and final lenght approx do you prefer?
Hi there, with my new instrument I use M top joints, I used S on the old one and RC 15 shaper but now I changed to RC 13 with the new oboe with M top joints.
Hi Marin, super interesting. 3rd times I see an article about it. It definitely triggers my attention. there is several size apparently, which one would you recommend if a reed is around 73-74mm?
So I’m confused - is it something that you would use all the time, or is it more of a training device to encourage “good habits” or build stamina ? Do you have any idea if it would still be useful for a long-scrape/N. American set up where we tend to hold the oboe closer to the chest?
It's really up to you, I am still finding the balance as I said in the video between using it and not using it. Me personally I would integrate it into my practice but not use it all the time. I don't see why it would not be useful for long scared reeds, the angle you hold the instrument has nothing to do with the style of reeds you make in my opinion. I find this tool gives you the optimal angle so it should help with that. If touu want to hold it lower it might not be so good. The best is to try it on if you get the chance and decide for yourself.
Excellent review! Too bad the postage from Italy to the US is 70 Euros!!! 70!!! for just one of these little devices. 70 EUROS! That is beyond shocking.
I can understand your disappointment about the high shipping costs for a tiny and less than 0.2 kg (0,44 lb) item. According to the courier service, the reasons for the high shipping charges, especially outside the EU, are as follows: - Preparation of papers for customs - Insurance coverage and package tracking - Delivery within 5 days The courier services do not recommend too small and tight packaging even for small items, as there is a much higher chance that the goods will not arrive safely and intact. Anyway, I will try my best, with the same conditions, to locate even better shipping offers to be able to accommodate with the price. Best regards Lukas from OboFit
The search for a somewhat cheaper courier service provider for parcel shipments to the USA was rewarded. Shipping costs were reduced, not least thanks to a slightly smaller box that is now used specifically for the USA. In addition, it doesn't always have to be the most established courier services.
@@obofit3911 Have you considered finding a American distributor? I bet most double reed supply companies would be interested in carrying a product like this. Speaking as an oboist myself, the idea intrigued me immediately, and I would absolutely purchase an Obofit if it were cheaper and/or offered by an American company. It seems like materials aren’t super important here either. Why make these things out of fine wood when it’s just a practice tool? I promise you - sell the plastic Obofit via Midwest Musical Imports or something, charge $30-$40 (maybe less), and it will fly off the shelves.
Playing with a good reed, one can play for hours without tiring or being sore. I do see potential applications of it protecting the reed from getting snagged, bumped into, or broken though. Reeds were mechanically broken way more than over worn as a child.
Thank you for posting this video! This looks really interesting. I'm going to give the "coffee stirrers" a try first, though, given my tight budget. The side effect of lessening the amount of embouchure pressure used and increased level of wind support is particularly fascinating. I've been experimenting with doing less with the embouchure, such as using "breath attacks." Another idea I'm thinking of trying is to try and find some convenient movement that will flex the lips a bit as part of my taking a breath, with the idea that this will increase blood circulation slightly. Every little bit helps? Nice touch, ending with the Telemann duet! I love playing those pieces, but they are also embouchure killers, for me. So, the perfect demo, at least for me. I love the humor in your videos--am looking forward to checking out others in your channel.
Glad you are enjoying yourself and being inspired to try things out. Give the coffee stirrers a try. I also have found that doing beatbox helps relax my lip muscles and tongue 😁as strange as it might sound. I see as those weird sounding exercises singers do.
The obofit is pretty neat tool, give it a try at some point if you can but it's totally not a must.
@@BeyondOboe LOL, I'd like to hear that (beatbox sounds) while taking breaths playing Bach A-minor solo sonata.
@@philfrei1 I don't do it in between playing, when I don't play.
And a little correction if I may, at the end of the video I play Bach not Telemann 😉
@@BeyondOboe - The piece was familiar, I realize now that it is from the Concerto for Two Violins. Beautifully done. I hope my attempt at humor (mixing beat box and Bach) did not offend.
I wonder if this works well for North American players as I’m sure there is a difference in embouchure from European players due to the scrape of the reed. I’m also curious if this could remedy the bad habit of a “smiling embouchure” by preventing the corners of the mouth from moving upward.
I am sure it would help with the "smiling".
I also think that even if you play long scrape there is still optimal angle range and it shouldn't be too low, my personal opinion. Long scrape doesn't mean low angle, again my opinion and everyone is free to do whatever they like.
Thank you Marin for sharing this. So I've got one of those too, the "original" model, and had very good experiences. I'm able to play longer, with a softer, even sound across the range, including jumps and reeds that I thought were worn out worked magically again.
There's no need to get the "plus" model I find, since wrapping the original one with a few rounds of teflon tape accomplishes the same, yet is even more flexible as you can find a thickness, that works best for you.
Besides, Marin, I wonder if you have an update on how regularly you use it in you practice, or even on stage?
Thanks for your comment! I am happy to see you are experiencing some benefits with the Obofit. I would agree in what you are sharing as experience.
Me personally I use it once in a while when I do my scales and technical exercises, I don't intend to perform on stage with it at this point. I see it more as a training/additional tool that helps me final results and not something that I would get dependent on playing all the time with.
Marin, I don’t understand. Do you have a new channel, or is this a second channel of yours?I have been playing for 3yrs now and would like to try one of these. I can’t afford to buy both so do you recommend the original or the plus? My mouth definitely gets tired by the end of a 2-2 1/2hr rehearsal, to the point where I can hardly sound the notes. Thanks!
It's the same channel, I simply changed the name to Beyond Oboe.
You definitely don't need 2 of them, I would either get the student or the original one to start with. The plus is for a bit more advanced training.
My wonderful teacher in Switzerland always suggested us to use two wood stirrers for coffee on each side of your embochure (the same as you would do with the OboFit) and it helps SO much! Maybe you can try that if you can't afford the OboFit 😀
What piece did you play at the end?
@@stevenkelly1474 An arrangement for two oboes of [the solo parts of] Bach's _Largo ma non tanto_ from the concerto for two violins BWV 1043.
Hello M. Tinev, what fasson do uou use for your M2 oboe? Is it a M or a S head? With which staple ? and lenght of tying and final lenght approx do you prefer?
Hi there, with my new instrument I use M top joints, I used S on the old one and RC 15 shaper but now I changed to RC 13 with the new oboe with M top joints.
Hi Marin, super interesting. 3rd times I see an article about it. It definitely triggers my attention. there is several size apparently, which one would you recommend if a reed is around 73-74mm?
The length is not super crucial and you can adjust it. I think when ordering you can order with 73mm length, I would go with that for 73-74mm reeds.
What is the piece you played in the opening?
Bozza 18 Etudes - Nr. 18
Thank you very much!!!!!
So I’m confused - is it something that you would use all the time, or is it more of a training device to encourage “good habits” or build stamina ? Do you have any idea if it would still be useful for a long-scrape/N. American set up where we tend to hold the oboe closer to the chest?
It's really up to you, I am still finding the balance as I said in the video between using it and not using it. Me personally I would integrate it into my practice but not use it all the time.
I don't see why it would not be useful for long scared reeds, the angle you hold the instrument has nothing to do with the style of reeds you make in my opinion. I find this tool gives you the optimal angle so it should help with that. If touu want to hold it lower it might not be so good. The best is to try it on if you get the chance and decide for yourself.
Excellent review! Too bad the postage from Italy to the US is 70 Euros!!! 70!!! for just one of these little devices. 70 EUROS! That is beyond shocking.
I can understand your disappointment about the high shipping costs for a tiny and less than 0.2 kg (0,44 lb) item.
According to the courier service, the reasons for the high shipping charges, especially outside the EU, are as follows:
- Preparation of papers for customs
- Insurance coverage and package tracking
- Delivery within 5 days
The courier services do not recommend too small and tight packaging even for small items, as there is a much higher chance that the goods will not arrive safely and intact.
Anyway, I will try my best, with the same conditions, to locate even better shipping offers to be able to accommodate with the price.
Best regards
Lukas from OboFit
The search for a somewhat cheaper courier service provider for parcel shipments to the USA was rewarded. Shipping costs were reduced, not least thanks to a slightly smaller box that is now used specifically for the USA.
In addition, it doesn't always have to be the most established courier services.
If you play oboe, you are necessarily pretty handy. I'd bet you could craft up something similar for just a couple dollars in materials.
@@obofit3911 Have you considered finding a American distributor? I bet most double reed supply companies would be interested in carrying a product like this. Speaking as an oboist myself, the idea intrigued me immediately, and I would absolutely purchase an Obofit if it were cheaper and/or offered by an American company.
It seems like materials aren’t super important here either. Why make these things out of fine wood when it’s just a practice tool? I promise you - sell the plastic Obofit via Midwest Musical Imports or something, charge $30-$40 (maybe less), and it will fly off the shelves.
Bravо Marin!
С това приспособление обоистът може да постигне темброво разнообразие, и константа, без умора!
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