@@PSBEadventures Apparently, the shaft on the newer models is different and no one has produced a lever to fit? But it has to be similar to another brand/model of bike? Someone must have found one to fit?
@JR-zz4zy if I only had that hair! Huge compliment and I greatly appreciate it!! Thanks for watching! Now, let's go over here and add some little happy trees......🎨🖌🖼
I have semi-auto two same bikes. One original shifter and one has one without the heel shifter. I hate that. In normal roads heel shifter is super great. When I am braking and try to downshift it goes like nothing. I simply feel it in heel that it stop resisting and then it goes like nothing. That is why I would not get rid of it on Super Cub or any bike of this sort unless going offroad with it. It also saves top of your shoes, which is possibly another reason why it was invented like that.
I use the heel shift part for going up through the gears and just touch the forward part for going down through the gears never have to put my boot UNDER the shifter
Dude, you saved me from having to figure out what to remove and loosen! I was about to return the hammerhead cause I could not get the factory shifter off. Now I will put it on with no trouble. Appreciate it.
yeah a bit more to undo, not too bad tho. the older ones were easier to work on. we had the skid/motor plate too, it was steel and didnt have to drop it for this for oil changes. [it had a cut out for oil to drain] the foot pegs were also metal and folded up as it was more of a trail bike. yeah the shift selector needed an upgrade for trails as it got bent several times on falls, logs or rocks sticking out. yes real trails. our thought was, If a horse could go there? our bikes could too. ;) got a little sketchy when the trail was narrow and on a cliff. then we really appreciated the LO range :) [wont be a trail bike without the HI/LO selector]
really a bit pathetic to have such a low amount of mechanical ability to not be able to figure out something so simple. i certainly would have been embarrassed to have to ask for help. Maybe you should stick to video games and electronic gizmos...ya know stuff more technological...instead of mechanical motorbikes.
Thanks for the great videos. I bought the red CT125 Trail last year after seeing your videos. Your bad for business for the service manuals. Have a good day.
Beware if you have the 2023 CT125 - new engine and the shifter (Hammerhead) will not fit. The new stock shifter is shared with the 2022 Cub. The lower left case is shaped differently and the 2022 and before Hammerhead will bind against the cover.
Update: the guys at Hammerhead are very helpful - I may run some fitment tests for them to see if another current design alternative will work. Will update if come up with a solution.
i love my heal toe shifter but around here you cant do alot of off roading if you try off roading some idiot will call the law on you. so i'm more less stuck on roads. but i do like that break away shifter. because i have bent mine riding on the beach and hitting high grass that had roots 8 to 10 inchs above ground.
Lol, you got a spider getting a free ride around @6:30 -- also, super helpful video, I really like this bike, would be cool to find one actually in stock one day
I removed my foot lever to adjust it down one spline, and then cross threaded the bolt, snapped the head off, and had to drill it out. Pretty much ruined the shift lever and will need a new one. If yours is for sale let me know. Good video!
If you'll pay the shipping I have the old factory one you can have. They say some of the welds break but this one is fine. I'd like to keep this recall one just in case I need it someday.
Hey Robert, thanks for watching and the kind words! My wife has family in Liverpool. We flew into London a long while back and a city double decker bus driver heard me talking. He looked at me and proclaimed "My God man, where are you from?!" With a huge enthusiasm to find out. He said, "sounds like the Dukes of Hazard" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@PSBEadventures Still laughing at "sounds like the Dukes of Hazard"! LOL! You can tell you're from the South but your voice is clear and easy to listen to. The Northerners sound more like Canadians that Americans so....
Enjoyed the video even though I don’t have a ct125. I just drove down from Missouri to Alabama last week and picked up my 2023 tw200. Loving it so far! Could you please review your forma adventure boots? I’m needing some boots bad. Also maybe you helmet and blogging set up while motovlogging as well?
Good idea!! I'll tell you that the boots are broke in out of the box! Maybe a bit lacking in protection vs some but I just can't wear the storm trooper boots that come up to your chin. I'll try to do a gear video soon!
When I looked on Hammerhead website it says the lart number is 11-0199 for the 2022 trail 125. I hope it's the right one because I am about to order it.
I got mine today, what it IS is they found out ( because everyone was getting them) that the 11-0112 shifter with the 20MM tip on it was Working on the ct 125s, they just sold the Combo of those two as 11-0199 specifically for the Honda Trail..✅ I ordered the 11-0199 also and the paperwork states That… BUT on the back of the shifter arm you will Still see the number 11-0112. 😎👍
Some reviews say gears 4 down. Others say 4 up. Which is it? Is it a rotary dearbox perhaps? Ie 4 down, then down again for neutral? Thanks. In UK and aiming to import one as not available from dealers over here
I like the looks of that shifter. I some times catch my heal resting on that rear also. I have had ankle injury's back in 04' and I don't know if I can bend my foot enough all the time to do away with the heal shifter though. Does it seem any easier to shift with that one over the factory one, or are they pretty similar. Thanks, EE.
I bought a a CT90 in 68. I know it’s called a heal toe shifter, but I always shifted up and down with the ball of my foot. I am not sure the clunky shifting is worth the auto clutch.
the shifter upgrade is more natural to use for bike riders. I had the early ct90 and a 110 - both I swapped out the shift lever on. currently I have the honda 4 wheeler that came with the good shift lever. R is all the way down up 1 N then up for the rest [R was a tight as it was new, bur its easier now ] it is a bit stiffer than my other bikes, but it is fine. I don't shift as often with these auto type of transmissions.
2 months out from install, how’s it working out? I had one (not from hammerhead) on my CRF250l and it stripped it on that and was a pain to replace and ride it back…so I’m hesitant of these. Has this shifter held up to use?
I bought that shift after watching this and I don't blame him but it's the worship drive ever used in my life it is beautiful looks great hurts the h*** out of your foot I mean it hurts I after writing it for 5 minutes was like when back put the old one back on
That's a fact! This Felix is something else! Tall tale teller, Hockey pro, genius mathematician, engine tuner, and I've seen him put a guy twice his size over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes. 🤣 (these things are absolutely true about the aforementioned!) 🤣😄🤣
@@PSBEadventures aww shucks. I was hoping that was an option as its not so good oh highway or trail without the low range. I had a couple ct90 with HI/LO and really appreciated the LO for roads it was ok, but not to good on the highway [just around 60mph, And still whined at 50] on trails without LO it is too fast [for real trails] just too fast yeah we had the motto "if a horse can go there? our bikes can too" :) changing out the sprocket is a good idea. :) (Ive done the front 1 on a few bikes Ive had) an easy swap my pop's changed out his rear sprocket to a 52 [wow] then it was just a trail machine with comfortable top speed of 30. but he lived in the woods, So that was good for him. I liked going to town on mine so the HI/LO was needed as I liked to getter up to 50. the bike got 95+ mpg! I drove it when I was young [a little guy age 12 & just 5'10"] gas was around 44 cents a gallon { my pop bottle money} I picked up bottles along the highway as I road, it was a self sustaining green machine. lol ;) on trails or road hunting I liked LO to putt along slow and see everything. wish my rancher had a LO selector, It has the ability to go slow, but geared a bit too high to putt along on the roads without the engine complaining. goes 50 on the county roads tho. but feels safer under 40 it a straight axle
I'm sure it's a great shifter seem to work good unfortunately if you're wearing shoes not heavy boots it is gonna kill your big toe I'm not I'm not no wimp and I'm telling you it will hurt you will not enjoy it at all you will go back and put your old shift your back on there should have been some kind of rubber padding or something up rump for your toe but it because it's so large the bottom and no padding man that was discomforting
Hardly every ride mine without boots, good point though. My biggest thing is I needed the breakaway head for woods riding. Thanks for the comment Frank!
Thanks for this. I've been getting more and more frustrated with accidentally hitting the heal shifter. Does the +20 mm simply mean that the lever head is 20mm longer?
I think it does. If you go to hammerhead's site and plug in like a 2015 CRF250L, it's on the "shift tip size" It's the one that was on my buddy's so went with it. It's working out great
@Isz2134 I know plenty of folks that at over 6' that ride the trail. Most of them remove the grab bar at the front of the rear rack or put padding on it.
Hammerhead warns that this lever will NOT fir the 2023 or 2024 CT125!
Thanks! I'll pin this comment. Do they have one that will? If so link it and I'll include it
@@PSBEadventures Apparently, the shaft on the newer models is different and no one has produced a lever to fit? But it has to be similar to another brand/model of bike? Someone must have found one to fit?
@@rbrADV yeah, I looked up the two shafts from different years and it's definitely different
Dude, you're like the Bob Ross of motorcycle maintenance! Great video.
@JR-zz4zy if I only had that hair! Huge compliment and I greatly appreciate it!! Thanks for watching! Now, let's go over here and add some little happy trees......🎨🖌🖼
@@PSBEadventures You could wear a wig 🤭.
I have semi-auto two same bikes. One original shifter and one has one without the heel shifter. I hate that. In normal roads heel shifter is super great. When I am braking and try to downshift it goes like nothing. I simply feel it in heel that it stop resisting and then it goes like nothing. That is why I would not get rid of it on Super Cub or any bike of this sort unless going offroad with it. It also saves top of your shoes, which is possibly another reason why it was invented like that.
I use the heel shift part for going up through the gears and just touch the forward part for going down through the gears never have to put my boot UNDER the shifter
I can’t even get my foot under it
Dude, you saved me from having to figure out what to remove and loosen! I was about to return the hammerhead cause I could not get the factory shifter off. Now I will put it on with no trouble. Appreciate it.
Now this is the kind of comment we strive for!! Glad it helped!! Thanks for watching!!
yeah a bit more to undo, not too bad tho.
the older ones were easier to work on.
we had the skid/motor plate too, it was steel and didnt have to drop it for this for oil changes.
[it had a cut out for oil to drain]
the foot pegs were also metal and folded up as it was more of a trail bike.
yeah the shift selector needed an upgrade for trails as it got bent several times on falls, logs or rocks sticking out.
yes real trails.
our thought was, If a horse could go there? our bikes could too. ;)
got a little sketchy when the trail was narrow and on a cliff.
then we really appreciated the LO range :) [wont be a trail bike without the HI/LO selector]
really a bit pathetic to have such a low amount of mechanical ability to not be able to figure out something so simple. i certainly would have been embarrassed to have to ask for help. Maybe you should stick to video games and electronic gizmos...ya know stuff more technological...instead of mechanical motorbikes.
@@bultacowally we don't discourage folks that give it a try. Not just everyone was born with a wrench in their hand.
Along with the shifter , put in the old one tens dual range transmission😊
just install stock shifter more horizontal (rotate clockwise few tooths)
more important do something with kick-starter!
Need that breakaway head for the woods here though!
Thanks for the great videos. I bought the red CT125 Trail last year after seeing your videos. Your bad for business for the service manuals. Have a good day.
just got something similar. Didn't realize I had to remove all that stuff lol thanks again!
Good idea but I ordered the cnc shifter and it was too short, ended up cutting off heel shifter
Beware if you have the 2023 CT125 - new engine and the shifter (Hammerhead) will not fit. The new stock shifter is shared with the 2022 Cub. The lower left case is shaped differently and the 2022 and before Hammerhead will bind against the cover.
Thanks for sharing!
Update: the guys at Hammerhead are very helpful - I may run some fitment tests for them to see if another current design alternative will work. Will update if come up with a solution.
@charliesadielouie keep us updated and I'll leave a subtext on the video
Nice job thanks for the video. I'm going with a suicide shifter myself... (I'm handicapped)
i love my heal toe shifter but around here you cant do alot of off roading if you try off roading some idiot will call the law on you. so i'm more less stuck on roads. but i do like that break away shifter. because i have bent mine riding on the beach and hitting high grass that had roots 8 to 10 inchs above ground.
I love that shifter! Might get one too, for my CT125 ABS _2022. Finally got my one Trail!!
I like that shifter I just got mine hunter cub a few months ago cheers 🍻 from New Orleans
Wonder what happens to your boot and your toe when you accidentally hit something that might have hit the shifter
Really good boots do a great job protecting your feet. Generally during normal riding and not shifting, you boots are above the shifter
Great video!!! I wish all modification/installation videos were as clear and detailed as yours. Thank you!!!
Appreciate that!
Lol, you got a spider getting a free ride around @6:30 -- also, super helpful video, I really like this bike, would be cool to find one actually in stock one day
Nice 👌. Looks like an outstanding shifter upgrade. Great tutorial.
Thanks for watching man!!
Seems the (red) part you place your foot on is a bit short, especially if you wear a study motorcycle boot.
Exceptional walk through! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!!
I removed my foot lever to adjust it down one spline, and then cross threaded the bolt, snapped the head off, and had to drill it out. Pretty much ruined the shift lever and will need a new one. If yours is for sale let me know. Good video!
If you'll pay the shipping I have the old factory one you can have. They say some of the welds break but this one is fine. I'd like to keep this recall one just in case I need it someday.
@@PSBEadventures I’ll gladly pay, and I really appreciate it. I can Venmo you if you get me a price. Do you have an instagram so I can DM you?
@@jyosgood sure thing, go to my home page here and in the background picture are my IG and FB links
LIKE ! ! !
There's a lot of IMPACT wrenchers out there, 😀.
😂
Great upgrade, I live in London and have owned c50/90s etc wish I’d seen your gear changer before now. Ps great accent.
Hey Robert, thanks for watching and the kind words! My wife has family in Liverpool. We flew into London a long while back and a city double decker bus driver heard me talking. He looked at me and proclaimed "My God man, where are you from?!" With a huge enthusiasm to find out. He said, "sounds like the Dukes of Hazard" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@PSBEadventures Still laughing at "sounds like the Dukes of Hazard"! LOL! You can tell you're from the South but your voice is clear and easy to listen to. The Northerners sound more like Canadians that Americans so....
Enjoyed the video even though I don’t have a ct125. I just drove down from Missouri to Alabama last week and picked up my 2023 tw200. Loving it so far! Could you please review your forma adventure boots? I’m needing some boots bad. Also maybe you helmet and blogging set up while motovlogging as well?
Good idea!! I'll tell you that the boots are broke in out of the box! Maybe a bit lacking in protection vs some but I just can't wear the storm trooper boots that come up to your chin. I'll try to do a gear video soon!
When I looked on Hammerhead website it says the lart number is 11-0199 for the 2022 trail 125. I hope it's the right one because I am about to order it.
This particular one is for a CRF250L
Use the link in the description and select the +20mm option for this exact shifter
It looks like it's going to be a great shifter. My size 12 boots won't be able to do the heel toe stock shifter.
I got mine today, what it IS is they found out ( because everyone was getting them) that the 11-0112 shifter with the 20MM tip on it was Working on the ct 125s, they just sold the Combo of those two as 11-0199 specifically for the Honda Trail..✅ I ordered the 11-0199 also and the paperwork states That… BUT on the back of the shifter arm you will Still see the number 11-0112. 😎👍
Been trying to get ahold of them for a week. Any idea?
Here's a link. They've updated their site and now have Trail 125 specific part number
hdmoto.com/moto/honda-crf250l-offset-forged-shift-lever-81293
I think the reason for heel shifter is that there are so many of these bikes in Asia and riders most often are riding in flip flops..
Been looking for shifter thanks
Im going buy the zeta brand one..
Some reviews say gears 4 down. Others say 4 up. Which is it? Is it a rotary dearbox perhaps? Ie 4 down, then down again for neutral? Thanks. In UK and aiming to import one as not available from dealers over here
This one is definitely 100% 4 up and not rotary. I have heard the models that went to Canada are 4 down
@@PSBEadventures thanks 😊
@brucegroom1929 anytime!
I like the looks of that shifter. I some times catch my heal resting on that rear also. I have had ankle injury's back in 04' and I don't know if I can bend my foot enough all the time to do away with the heal shifter though. Does it seem any easier to shift with that one over the factory one, or are they pretty similar. Thanks, EE.
Seems pretty similar on the leverage part of it
I bought a a CT90 in 68. I know it’s called a heal toe shifter, but I always shifted up and down with the ball of my foot. I am not sure the clunky shifting is worth the auto clutch.
After you get the swing of it, you can make it smooth as glass with rev matching etc
the shifter upgrade is more natural to use for bike riders.
I had the early ct90 and a 110 - both I swapped out the shift lever on.
currently I have the honda 4 wheeler that came with the good shift lever.
R is all the way down up 1 N then up for the rest [R was a tight as it was new, bur its easier now ]
it is a bit stiffer than my other bikes, but it is fine.
I don't shift as often with these auto type of transmissions.
Nice video, do you think this would work for the 2024 Honda Trail?
I'm almost positive it will
@@PSBEadventures thanks for the reply but sadly the shifter does not work on the 2023 and 2024 Honda Trail
@@giovanny4316 sorry to hear that. Did you buy one and try it?
@@PSBEadventures I enter the website and show the shifter does not fit the 23 and 24 ct125
@giovanny4316 my parts vender doesn't have the shift shaft for the 23/24 on the diagram yet. If the splines on the shaft are the same, it will work
2 months out from install, how’s it working out? I had one (not from hammerhead) on my CRF250l and it stripped it on that and was a pain to replace and ride it back…so I’m hesitant of these. Has this shifter held up to use?
So far so good, gotta keep em tight
@@PSBEadventures Thanks! I'll get it and see how it works!
Can't wait for mine
The shifter head needs to be a little bit longer.
My buddy's channel where I found out about the shifter. ua-cam.com/users/Bockscar1945
I bought that shift after watching this and I don't blame him but it's the worship drive ever used in my life it is beautiful looks great hurts the h*** out of your foot I mean it hurts I after writing it for 5 minutes was like when back put the old one back on
looks great & its red.
Thanks!!
we all got a buddy named Felix... I am probably somebodies Felix
That's a fact! This Felix is something else! Tall tale teller, Hockey pro, genius mathematician, engine tuner, and I've seen him put a guy twice his size over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes. 🤣 (these things are absolutely true about the aforementioned!) 🤣😄🤣
is the HI/LO selector an option for it?
Not on this model. Just a 4 speed. I use a smaller 13t front sprocket when heading into steep terrain
@@PSBEadventures aww shucks. I was hoping that was an option as its not so good oh highway or trail without the low range.
I had a couple ct90 with HI/LO and really appreciated the LO
for roads it was ok, but not to good on the highway [just around 60mph, And still whined at 50]
on trails without LO it is too fast [for real trails] just too fast
yeah we had the motto "if a horse can go there? our bikes can too" :)
changing out the sprocket is a good idea. :) (Ive done the front 1 on a few bikes Ive had) an easy swap
my pop's changed out his rear sprocket to a 52 [wow] then it was just a trail machine with comfortable top speed of 30. but he lived in the woods, So that was good for him.
I liked going to town on mine so the HI/LO was needed as I liked to getter up to 50.
the bike got 95+ mpg! I drove it when I was young [a little guy age 12 & just 5'10"] gas was around 44 cents a gallon { my pop bottle money} I picked up bottles along the highway as I road, it was a self sustaining green machine. lol ;)
on trails or road hunting I liked LO to putt along slow and see everything.
wish my rancher had a LO selector, It has the ability to go slow, but geared a bit too high to putt along
on the roads without the engine complaining. goes 50 on the county roads tho. but feels safer under 40
it a straight axle
Beep Beep ! *waves at people he doesn't know and revs the powerful Trail 125 😏.
Nice video, thanks.
Thanks for watching!!! Got a ton of other instructional ones on the little trail if you want to check them out!
thanks for the video :)
@@freetolisten anytime! Thanks for watching!!
I couldn't get to the heel shifter if my life depended on it. I guess maybe I'm too tall.
Yep, I didn't ever use it at all.
What tip size you got?
Think the +20mm one
I'm sure it's a great shifter seem to work good unfortunately if you're wearing shoes not heavy boots it is gonna kill your big toe I'm not I'm not no wimp and I'm telling you it will hurt you will not enjoy it at all you will go back and put your old shift your back on there should have been some kind of rubber padding or something up rump for your toe but it because it's so large the bottom and no padding man that was discomforting
Hardly every ride mine without boots, good point though. My biggest thing is I needed the breakaway head for woods riding. Thanks for the comment Frank!
Thanks for this. I've been getting more and more frustrated with accidentally hitting the heal shifter. Does the +20 mm simply mean that the lever head is 20mm longer?
I think it does. If you go to hammerhead's site and plug in like a 2015 CRF250L, it's on the "shift tip size" It's the one that was on my buddy's so went with it. It's working out great
just install stock shifter more horizontal (rotate clockwise few tooths)
Nice, shame it is only for 5 footers
?
@@PSBEadventures people under 6 feet tall
@Isz2134 I know plenty of folks that at over 6' that ride the trail. Most of them remove the grab bar at the front of the rear rack or put padding on it.
@@PSBEadventures looks ridiculous, i tried it. They should make it 50% bigger with 250cc and charge double.
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There's some hills this 125 won't climb. If it had the sub transmission it will climb any hill.
Put you a 13t on the front, I haven't found one yet with that