Homelander has a bug where if you do any of his block strings other than back 1 into diabolical dash and the grab it whiffs on standing block. So 22- diabolical dash and 2 it will whiff up close
I really don't like this patch cus i really hate how they're balancing stuff with health instead of the actual stuff that are too much. And reverting Cyrax and nerfing Janet's damage again with no buffs to kameos attached im afraid they're going to that route of nerfing everything and characters having less and less options patch after patch. i hope the Takeda and Ferra patch comes with no nerfs at all or the game is gonna keep getting boring
@@andrueiswas literally thinking about this earlier as a nitara main. the feel like sometimes they nerf with high tiers in mind while not considering how that affects the rest of the cast
@@hands-ongaming7180 well unfournately many people complained then randomly leap to bash nrs,and sonicfox over tweets so we don't get to have a balanced fun cryax.
Peacemaker has had his following nerfed: Torpedo, Eagley, Force Field, Anti-Gravity, Damage scaling, Deagle combo extensions off projectiles, and Stryker got nerfed greatly as well which was his best kameo. So what exactly left is there to cry about? 😅🤷♂️
@@jeredaguila7054 word I actually think the nerfs aren’t even bad and Johnny doesn’t need nerfs either , people say these things and then cry again when the game is watered down
@@dec2567 I’ve seen a handful of competitive players that play this game for a living also say that certain characters I’ve mentioned need some sort of tweaking. I guess they just need to learn the game as well right?
Probably if I had to guess the way he was before he never really needed to use meter so this change will make a use for the meter aside from just break, I don't really see where else he could be spending meter since it's never worth it with projectiles
Can’t believe the laziness of this patch. Only redeemable thing was ball roll nerf and the bug fixes, which is the bare minimum. Taking away health is a lazy way to nerf characters/kameos. And then doing things that make absolutely zero sense like making torpedo a high and nerfing Janet’s damage of all things??? The community expected way more. The rest of the kameo cast remains untouched too which is a disappointment (other than them killing cyrax for the 2nd time 😒)
@@edd4131 right, I love this game it’s one of my favorite things to play rn. NRS delivered an amazing product, I just wish they would actually support it properly and listen to the fan base who pays good money to play it.
Idk abt the Homelander "nerfs". He still does above 30% meterless, and with the right kameos it's 40%, to me that's fair. The Janet nerf was dumb tho she was perfectly okay, like Mavado, yet they nerf her instead of Khameleon
homlander/scorpion -use spear as better wakeup -spear after air diabolical dash 1 free OS - scorpion overhead check same range as low laser - back 2,2, grab string combos with scorpion ambush -1,2,3 and back 1,4,2 combo into scorpion ambush - non-enhanced parry, god complex, blast off combo with scorpion ambush - It's plenty more but the spear gives a free OS after (air diabolical dash 1) instead of mashing D1 and better WAKEUP option which is his weakest aspect of the character. You don't get the same damage as Serena but you do get more combo routes.
NRS sux at actually supporting their games. It didn't take final kombat to realize kham was an issue. She's been an issue since they nerfed Lao and Stryker. I understand the patch wasn't for final kombat but it shouldn't take that if NRS was capable of using their brains, ie sheeva stomp in mk11. NRS either lazy or dumb. Sorry but proof is in the pudding.
No way that can be intended, if it’s -16 and the game menu says it’s -22 you should be able to punish it. He can’t or shouldn’t be able to armor if you hit him with your fastest string
I don’t understand the meter cost of multiple fly cancels. It’s not like if you did that you got some insane damage or something. Now it’s like you can spend bar if you want your combos to look cool and feel satisfying…for around 30% give or take if you don’t wanna use a kameo that gives you clap mid combo.
This patch sucks. why nerf cyrax back to being useless and barely touch khameleon, johnny, and peacemaker? Cyrax was super fun and not at all too strong.
homelander can still blockstring infinite j1 in the corner 💀 you need to armor out. at least vs geras, maybe its just because hes too tall Edit: Looks like you need to upblock out. I overlooked this option and was just trying to anti air.
Khameleons overhead should be more frames, and her glaive should be a normal projectile. And it only comes back when you hold the kameo button or something, which should drain her whole bar. These changes are lame, why wait until after final Kombat for this??
How about the fact that now when you are using Peacemaker and you use torpedo to punish a whiff up close and your opponent is ducking you now fly right over him instead of punish…that’s awesome huh?? It’s not!!!! Thanks again Netherrealm! As if Peace didn’t get boned enough already!
After doing (Back 2, 2) to (back Serena) he’s gonna cancel into an automatic (back 2). It’s so fucking annoying. They shouldn’t have Nerf him to the ground. He’s honestly not fun anymore. Even with his broken, infinite, Peacemaker will and forever be better💀 thank you NRS❤️❤️❤️
dunno bruh, wasn't this patch supposed to be only bug fixes? Decreasing the hp of strong characters is just infuriating, just fix the bugs and let the bigbalance patch roll on with ferra's release then, this patch feels so rushed and half assed. I don't even want to imagine that all theae balance changes are final with this patch
But was the multiple flight moves in a combo really that big of a deal? The combos were still 40% 38% meter less. Idk this is why I don’t even bother with fighting games anymore. The dumbass developers are making this game stupider and stupider with each patch
buff ideas, spread the word Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze. Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
Good, I knew something was up with homelander's hurt box! I didn't know from word of mouth or UA-cam or anything, but punishing him with Ashrah was basically impossible and I was getting steamrolled. It was ruining this whole season for me, because I'm getting closer and closer to eldergod (I'm a new player), then homelander dropped and I was like, wtf I can't hit this guy! This sucks! I teabag every homelander I beat. I'm not one to teabag, but I was like, oh great! They're gonna cheese me with that block infinite and I can't hit him! Then he drinks that milk like a total creep and this whole time I've been like, why is he such a quif smoker? His hurt box.
Much love Tweedy...L patch for sure. Lazy is the perfection description. Messing with health values, outside of kameos, is the worst way to balance a fighting game imo.
@@BrandonGuerrero-oe1nj That nerf was stupid because this game It’s supposed to be about freedom and they took that away from him, he’s like a limited mk11 character In mk1.
You are responsible for coasting bar nerf there are so many moves that says cost bar but it doesn't but about homelander you started yelling about and make video and tweet they nerf it because of you
John Cena 100% negotiated that his character stay top tier.
John cena in game? I didn’t see him
Bro I didnt either. I was so confused watching final Kombat it was just Johnny Cage every match by himself
LOL I can see that triple H did it in one of the WWE games back in the day..lol he demanding his character be top tier
Homelander has a bug where if you do any of his block strings other than back 1 into diabolical dash and the grab it whiffs on standing block.
So 22- diabolical dash and 2 it will whiff up close
@@noire213 it's not a bug, if you delay bf2 grab, it works perfectly
Laughed my ass off when you brought up the fly that doesn’t care about his life🤣 great vid tho, love your content
I really don't like this patch cus i really hate how they're balancing stuff with health instead of the actual stuff that are too much. And reverting Cyrax and nerfing Janet's damage again with no buffs to kameos attached im afraid they're going to that route of nerfing everything and characters having less and less options patch after patch. i hope the Takeda and Ferra patch comes with no nerfs at all or the game is gonna keep getting boring
i hope it comes with buffs lmao
Yeah Cyrax proved to not be op anymore but he was still top tier yet he’s back to being useles.
Doesnt nitara have 850 hp now for her best kameo kham? Meanwhile you got 1200hp shao and 1100 hp reiko over here jfc
@@andrueiswas literally thinking about this earlier as a nitara main. the feel like sometimes they nerf with high tiers in mind while not considering how that affects the rest of the cast
@@hands-ongaming7180 well unfournately many people complained then randomly leap to bash nrs,and sonicfox over tweets so we don't get to have a balanced fun cryax.
Dream buff. Let us cancel his armor into flight
That’s too much, what if you could aim it forward/backwards? Potential anti-air wake-up/getaway
Might as well overhaul Gearas wake up too
Peacemaker, Khameleon barley touched and Johnny nothing… GG NRS
Peacemaker has had his following nerfed: Torpedo, Eagley, Force Field, Anti-Gravity, Damage scaling, Deagle combo extensions off projectiles, and Stryker got nerfed greatly as well which was his best kameo. So what exactly left is there to cry about? 😅🤷♂️
@@jeredaguila7054They want everybody nerfed then complain to nrs about the nerfs instead of learning the game.😂😂
@@jeredaguila7054 word I actually think the nerfs aren’t even bad and Johnny doesn’t need nerfs either , people say these things and then cry again when the game is watered down
@@dec2567 I’ve seen a handful of competitive players that play this game for a living also say that certain characters I’ve mentioned need some sort of tweaking. I guess they just need to learn the game as well right?
You must a qeer cause I dont see no steers around here boy. Getcho cute dumb ass out of here😂@@jeredaguila7054
Please do a Homelander guide, the utility of the fly and his pressure still too complex to me
2:56 practice this. This is simplest combo with Homelander.
Idk why they didnt just make it meterless, I had the most fun in this game pulling his combos off
exactly dude. i’m so pissed off they were hard to do and fun. i hate what they did to him
They should’ve made maybe the third flight cancel cost metre. Those combos were hard af and fun af
i’m so glad i’m not the only one. it was extremely execution heavy but so satisfying to pull off, such a garbage change
Probably if I had to guess the way he was before he never really needed to use meter so this change will make a use for the meter aside from just break, I don't really see where else he could be spending meter since it's never worth it with projectiles
Cause you can’t play with skill
Love your content man love your videos ❤
Ayo that thumbnail .... 2 dudes and drinking that leche ..... 💀 😂
Can’t believe the laziness of this patch. Only redeemable thing was ball roll nerf and the bug fixes, which is the bare minimum. Taking away health is a lazy way to nerf characters/kameos. And then doing things that make absolutely zero sense like making torpedo a high and nerfing Janet’s damage of all things??? The community expected way more. The rest of the kameo cast remains untouched too which is a disappointment (other than them killing cyrax for the 2nd time 😒)
the bar is so low for NRS at this point. This patch was hardly a balance of anything.
And I’ve been so positive for this damn game, I’m sick of this lazy shit, and or just incompetence.
@@edd4131 right, I love this game it’s one of my favorite things to play rn. NRS delivered an amazing product, I just wish they would actually support it properly and listen to the fan base who pays good money to play it.
Idk abt the Homelander "nerfs". He still does above 30% meterless, and with the right kameos it's 40%, to me that's fair. The Janet nerf was dumb tho she was perfectly okay, like Mavado, yet they nerf her instead of Khameleon
A really calm fellow I know called sikander555 also called the torpedo change a low key buff.
You can end that new meterless combo with 1,2,4 in the air instead of doing 1,2,grab to get more damage, but that's not much more.
would love a guide, idk what to do now for decent damage super bummed about those combos bein ass now.
That damn fly tho laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
definitely a homelander guide man please!!
Homelander only problems was the camera and the infinite blocked pressure but now they him like Nitara.
He’s now worse than Nitara
homlander/scorpion
-use spear as better wakeup
-spear after air diabolical dash 1 free OS
- scorpion overhead check same range as low laser
- back 2,2, grab string combos with scorpion ambush
-1,2,3 and back 1,4,2 combo into scorpion ambush
- non-enhanced parry, god complex, blast off combo with scorpion ambush
- It's plenty more but the spear gives a free OS after (air diabolical dash 1) instead of mashing D1 and better WAKEUP option which is his weakest aspect of the character. You don't get the same damage as Serena but you do get more combo routes.
i like your idea, I forgot the existence of spear
Wdym spear after ADD 1? I still don't get it. Also comboing after B22 command is cool but if only there was a better option lol
I really wish his laser beams were out of a stance so you can choose between the low high or anti air
NRS sux at actually supporting their games. It didn't take final kombat to realize kham was an issue. She's been an issue since they nerfed Lao and Stryker. I understand the patch wasn't for final kombat but it shouldn't take that if NRS was capable of using their brains, ie sheeva stomp in mk11. NRS either lazy or dumb. Sorry but proof is in the pudding.
So do you will create a full guide of homelander soon?
Let’s go patch
Peacemaker still not touched? Yeah I’ll stay out the way. Loved the TOP 8 final tho!
His armor now is high
They did nwrd him actually a lot . Yall slow 😂
For Cyrax is should just be you need a whole kameo bar but only use half. idk if that makes sense
It just needs a cooldown so u cant use it repeatedly in a blockstring
I get it, good change
Its our boy!
No Johnny cage nerfs game is a JOKE
No way that can be intended, if it’s -16 and the game menu says it’s -22 you should be able to punish it. He can’t or shouldn’t be able to armor if you hit him with your fastest string
I definitely want to see a post patch guide
I hope tekeda is just the ronin variation from MKX
I feel like he’s definitely gotta have those whips too.
I don’t understand the meter cost of multiple fly cancels. It’s not like if you did that you got some insane damage or something. Now it’s like you can spend bar if you want your combos to look cool and feel satisfying…for around 30% give or take if you don’t wanna use a kameo that gives you clap mid combo.
This patch sucks. why nerf cyrax back to being useless and barely touch khameleon, johnny, and peacemaker? Cyrax was super fun and not at all too strong.
It's a hot fix patch mostly geared towards fixing some bugs with the last big patch. Its not meant to be a game changing balance patch.
Facts bro
That dash up back 22 after clap is so inconsistent for me dude I can get down the rest but that just pisses me off
homelander can still blockstring infinite j1 in the corner 💀 you need to armor out.
at least vs geras, maybe its just because hes too tall
Edit: Looks like you need to upblock out. I overlooked this option and was just trying to anti air.
I'm going with van dam. They nerfed my reiko
Luckily I was mastering combos that would take no meter once the flight nerf happened
Anyone have any tips hitting that meter less homelander?
That's a crazy F4 low on Homelander.
So next tourney will be even more Johnny mirrors then
Yall so bad at the game u don't realize johnny was just the solution to peacemaker/khameleon johnny don't need ANOTHER nerf smh
Or Peacemaker still.
Either way, it is going to be miserable to watch again.....
@@DreBagsGamingother way. Peacemaker was the solution for Johnny and he got nerfed. Johnny cage dominating rop 8 is proof that he’s top tier
They ruined him
Homelander nerf/correction is ASS asf smh
very
Please do homelander guide thank you
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! - Darth Vader
NRS is cooked all they do is beef everybody to hell just buff the weaker chars
i feel they could’ve definitely given him a damage buff at the very least
Buff our boy
This is why I can’t get into fighting games online anymore. People cry and then a character gets changed.
Pls Drop A New Combo Guide For Homelander
What happened to semiij?
Instead of nerfing characters,buff almost every character to be not very kameo reliant and viable but nerf kameo moves that make moves safe on block.
BRUHHH all my bread and butter combos with homelander now cost meter 😐 they still do terrible damage so not much of a trade
this patch sucks man smh
Khameleons overhead should be more frames, and her glaive should be a normal projectile. And it only comes back when you hold the kameo button or something, which should drain her whole bar. These changes are lame, why wait until after final Kombat for this??
How about the fact that now when you are using Peacemaker and you use torpedo to punish a whiff up close and your opponent is ducking you now fly right over him instead of punish…that’s awesome huh?? It’s not!!!! Thanks again Netherrealm! As if Peace didn’t get boned enough already!
Peacemaker accidentally buffed
Eat the fly. Assert dominance.
They nerf peacemaker and Janet and khameleon and cyrax and homelander in one patch
I think homelander was the fastest character to get nerfed 😅
Yea L patch Fr. Buff more things….
Caffeine to play video games optimally is crazy tweedy-poo😢
After doing (Back 2, 2) to (back Serena) he’s gonna cancel into an automatic (back 2). It’s so fucking annoying. They shouldn’t have Nerf him to the ground. He’s honestly not fun anymore. Even with his broken, infinite, Peacemaker will and forever be better💀 thank you NRS❤️❤️❤️
Is it really a nerf if homelander wasn’t intended to be that way😂
guess i’ll relearn this character but his combos were way more fun. kinda botched him for me tbh.
dunno bruh, wasn't this patch supposed to be only bug fixes? Decreasing the hp of strong characters is just infuriating, just fix the bugs and let the bigbalance patch roll on with ferra's release then, this patch feels so rushed and half assed. I don't even want to imagine that all theae balance changes are final with this patch
His combos are boring now.. before patch watching his combos was so fun man damn… definitely a needless nerf here
But was the multiple flight moves in a combo really that big of a deal? The combos were still 40% 38% meter less. Idk this is why I don’t even bother with fighting games anymore. The dumbass developers are making this game stupider and stupider with each patch
Am I only one who dont like all guest dlc's in this game?
buff ideas, spread the word
Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion
Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze.
Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up
Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar
y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
Homelander nOrfs really suck man 😂
Honestly NRS might just be dum a fuhkkk. I mean mk11 sheeva so what would we expect? Pretty sure none of them play the game.
you def dont need 5 weeks to relearn a character
Good, I knew something was up with homelander's hurt box! I didn't know from word of mouth or UA-cam or anything, but punishing him with Ashrah was basically impossible and I was getting steamrolled. It was ruining this whole season for me, because I'm getting closer and closer to eldergod (I'm a new player), then homelander dropped and I was like, wtf I can't hit this guy! This sucks! I teabag every homelander I beat. I'm not one to teabag, but I was like, oh great! They're gonna cheese me with that block infinite and I can't hit him! Then he drinks that milk like a total creep and this whole time I've been like, why is he such a quif smoker?
His hurt box.
Giys peacemaker mavdo
Theyre is zero point to play homelander now
Much love Tweedy...L patch for sure. Lazy is the perfection description. Messing with health values, outside of kameos, is the worst way to balance a fighting game imo.
Homelander is not nerfed that update is not correct at all
Yeah, they def rushed homelander out to coincide with the show release. Please stop pre ordering folks.
This is BS. NRS doesn't know how to balance their game, and it shows
#L
Homelander got zero pressure now.
Yeah, he’s trash, they should Just delete him.
How? All that really got hit was the meter needed for combo extensions. That doesn’t really have anything to do with his pressure
@@BrandonGuerrero-oe1nj you heard about kick being unsafe now even if you go down after that.
@@BrandonGuerrero-oe1nj That nerf was stupid because this game It’s supposed to be about freedom and they took that away from him, he’s like a limited mk11 character In mk1.
When are we getting BUFFSSSS nerf this, nerf that, this patch is trash.
You are responsible for coasting bar nerf there are so many moves that says cost bar but it doesn't but about homelander you started yelling about and make video and tweet they nerf it because of you
The fly os is crazy no meat riding u the funniest mf in my sub box that lcq finals commentary had me rollin bro
This patch was 100% unnecessary and stupid..!
This is one of the worst season
L patch