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  • @oscarejdonovan
    @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +17

    Hello everyone, to save people leaving comments about the difference of time in Tanzania, we UNDERSTAND that Tanzania uses a different time system, and we said this in the video. We realised this later which is why I mentioned it on the voiceover in the video. The women in the video kept us standing in the street while one of them was kicking our bikes and were trying to get male passers by to join in. If the women weren't scamming, why were we allowed to leave as soon as we insisted on talking to their boss? …and why was it insisted that we pay them the money in cash? We understand that Tanzanians have very low wages, and we give what we can to people living in the countryside, but we will never pay out to scammers.
    The reason Tanzania is the worst country we've ever visited is explained at the end of the video, and was not just to do with the incident at the hotel - this was just an example of Tanzanians trying to get money out of foreigners along with acting aggressively, which happened to us every day in Tanzania.
    Foreigners who come to Tanzania NOT on safari trips have very similar experiences to us - a foreigner cannot walk the streets without being followed, harassed, and coerced into scams by locals. This usually happens in cities and much less in the countryside but cities are where foreigners will have to travel before going to see the beautiful parts of Tanzania.
    Maybe it's worth thinking about why so many Tanzanians are treating tourists like crap in a country that is so dependent on them. We will be advising anyone who wants to visit East Africa to go to Kenya instead 😉

    • @berthatz
      @berthatz 2 роки тому +12

      Who are you to stop tourists from visiting Tanzania??Oh please😏

    • @NNT66
      @NNT66 2 роки тому +5

      ✨Ⓐⓓⓥⓘⓢⓔ✨ @@berthatz .. not stop.
      Please read before commenting :')

    • @abdourazakndeze4157
      @abdourazakndeze4157 2 роки тому +11

      You and you're western mind set never sto us to visit Tanzania...it's the most friendly country ever...all of that incident u'r recording can happen any way in the world...even in western countries happen lot.

    • @abdourazakndeze4157
      @abdourazakndeze4157 2 роки тому +7

      I have been in spain where pick pocket it becoming like culture in city like Barcelona & Madrid

    • @fahadfaraj6474
      @fahadfaraj6474 2 роки тому +8

      As a Tanzanian I feel so ashamed of really what happened there, but I feel sorry for you, scammers are everywhere and those few stupids pple should not be the standard of taking the whole country as the worst country that's not ok,

  • @christopheplumm2849
    @christopheplumm2849 2 роки тому +30

    So we are a horrible country because you can not understand Swahili time and expected something no hotel allows… and a perfect stranger took his time to help you for 20 minutes.

  • @sketchbabu
    @sketchbabu 2 роки тому +22

    It was a simple language problem. 4:00 means 10am in Swahili. If aswahili person tells you we meet at 10, that means 4:00pm or 16:00hrs. Tanzanians are the kindest politest people you will ever meet. This lady thought you were taking her for granted and taking advantage of her hospitality. Apologies on their behalf.

    • @dictarchelsea
      @dictarchelsea Рік тому

      Walitakiwa kutoka saa nne wamezidisha Muda haha wanarely kwenye we we're told,wakati wana rules chumbani

    • @TopFiveAfrican
      @TopFiveAfrican Рік тому

      Exactly. They were told saa nne. At 4. The fourth hour of the day. Whenever you visit Tanzania or Kenya, kindly try and get a translator. Most Kenyans understand English though.

  • @kambamazig02024
    @kambamazig02024 2 роки тому +18

    You guys messed up, the standard check-out time in all guest houses in tanzania is at 10 (which is saa 4 asubuhi), and you guys thought it was 4:00 p.m., which is not true, please leave your white-fragility behind and do the right thing! Pay for the late check out at 10:00 a.m. She is saying they knocked at your door at 10:00 a.m. and you were sleeping! No excuses and blaming them for extortion!

    • @zackmwekassamotivation4525
      @zackmwekassamotivation4525 2 роки тому

      Absolutely !!!

    • @chasingthesun2133
      @chasingthesun2133 Рік тому +1

      They are bumming it and giving Tanzania a bad name when they are cheap and don’t want to pay that low cost smdfh colonizers are something else 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @FPHELPS.177
      @FPHELPS.177 Рік тому

      well, sorry I'm not so sure they are wrong, 4pm is not 10 am. What an unusual situation.

  • @travelerawakenings8477
    @travelerawakenings8477 Рік тому +7

    I am a Black From Canada. I went to Tanzania last year, they did the sane thing to me. You never knkw how much something is going to cost you. They always pretend there was a misunderstanding, and they won't let go. While I was there, I spent more money than any other country I have visited. I rented an airbnb. The lady asked me for a price, then I something happened I needed to stay two extra days. She lied to me that someone else has reserved the place so if I want to stay longer, I need to pay more otherwise, she will have to give it to the new guests. I packed my bag and told her go ahead, give it to the other person. When she realized I was about to leave, she told me, oh well because you are already here, you can stay for the same price. This is one of many situations like this. They always create situations to make things look more difficult so you can offer money to make thing go quicker. I saw many Foreigners, mostly African American complaining about the same thing with Tanzanian people living in Tanzania

    • @FPHELPS.177
      @FPHELPS.177 Рік тому

      in Kenya, they didn't do that to me, Thanks for the advice. It looks a bit dodgy to me

    • @travelerawakenings8477
      @travelerawakenings8477 Рік тому +1

      @@FPHELPS.177 They don't do that to Afrucan, because to them, African don't have money. They do that to people who come from.USA, Canada, Europe, Australia, all those rich countries

    • @FPHELPS.177
      @FPHELPS.177 Рік тому

      but these stereotypes are often incorrect@@travelerawakenings8477

    • @joshuabennett339
      @joshuabennett339 Рік тому

      If the poor scam you for crumbs that they might live, so what.
      In the west the rich empty your wallets on a daily basis to but get richer.
      As an AA I didn't mind Africans earning and extra buck to put food on their table. I also tip when in Africa, generously.

    • @NurseSnow2U
      @NurseSnow2U 3 місяці тому

      @@travelerawakenings8477but everyone isn’t rich and tourism is how they make their living.

  • @workugebeyehu2379
    @workugebeyehu2379 2 роки тому +20

    It is unfortunate to have this kind of misunderstanding. With due respect: (a) You, the whites, need to understand that although they were colonized, they have not interested to adopt the way you count hours; you start counting hours at the middle of the night and when you wake up early in the morning, you tell us, it is 6:00 AM. But for Tanzanians and Ethiopians, we start counting hours as we wake up and see the morning light. (b) Secondly, even in your way, how could you expect to wait until 4:00 PM in bed room and want to leave without paying a penny. I believe it is universal rule to leave a bed room before 12:00 AM. As far as I know, Tanzanians are God fearing, very helpful and respectful.

    • @primuluskasaija9384
      @primuluskasaija9384 Рік тому

      Normally, check out time in Tz is 10a.m in the morning,and this is known countrywide unless you have a special arrangement with the hotel or lodge staff.Because any extra time affects their usual work of cleaning and deters probable visitors from using the facility. Actually even if you get to the hotel or lodge at 6 a m in the morning, you have to agree with hotel staff because the moment it clicks to 10a.m, you will be starting a new day.Its key to know how things work in whatever country you go to and refrain from tarnishing the image of your hosts.Karibu Tena Tanzania.

    • @gratitude5740
      @gratitude5740 Рік тому

      12:00 am is midnight. This is when people need to sleep . You maybe meant 12:00 PM .

  • @shangweberthe8398
    @shangweberthe8398 2 роки тому +30

    I have lived in Kenya, Uganda and now in the US, Tanzania isn’t a horrible country. These people are CHEAP and therefore like any other country, you’ll not get the best treatment if you stay in cheap places. Tanzania isn’t horrible. He says Kenya was better than Tanzania but even those Kenyans will tell you ,Tanzanians are polite. You should have paid half of it. If you’re smart, you will google the history of Tanzania and find out Tanzania has never experienced any type of conflict. Tanzania has always been a peaceful country. Don’t go by this experience and thinks Tanzania is horrible country. Just because you didn’t get treated like a King.

    • @normanthenormand7554
      @normanthenormand7554 Рік тому +2

      I live with Tanzanian and I can tell you they are horrible people. Very hard to make friends with and always wanting to exploit people for their own selfish good.

    • @Churros1616
      @Churros1616 Рік тому

      It’s Dutch people of course they are cheap.

    • @dictarchelsea
      @dictarchelsea Рік тому

      @@normanthenormand7554 which part of Tanzania ?

  • @mariamdahir1319
    @mariamdahir1319 2 роки тому +11

    If it is a horrible country why don't you leave we don't need hippies\backpackers who lleaves at 4pm and don't want to pay the room who supposed to check out at 10AM. You are very lucky to let go free without paying. This could not have happened in your country for sure 😌

  • @edwardmkwelele
    @edwardmkwelele 2 роки тому +7

    Communication 4.00 in Tanzania means 10
    00 am, if you stayed up to 4:00pm that means you stayed over the time of check out

  • @FPHELPS.177
    @FPHELPS.177 Рік тому +1

    No one likes being scammed, it doesn't matter who they are

  • @msofegobless8596
    @msofegobless8596 2 роки тому +21

    I discovered there was miscommunication on time for checking out checking out is usually at 10:00 am and in Swahili is 4:00 🤣🤣🤣🤣 take it as a part of learning but it doesn't make our country horrible as you have said.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +1

      I didn't say Tanzania is the worst country I've ever travelled to because of this one situation, at the end of the video I talk more in detail about scams being attempted almost every day, and was just being honest about how tourists are treated here (if they're not paying thousands for a safari package) ...maybe I will come back one day and have a different experience but for now Tanzania was definitely the worst country I've been to so far - I also explained in the video what happened with the time but all the annoyed Tanzanian comments seem to ignore that 😬

    • @berthatz
      @berthatz 2 роки тому +9

      @@oscarejdonovan even your UA-cam name shows how negative y’all..Don’t come to Tanzania go somewhere else..Bye👋🏾

    • @mzalendo24
      @mzalendo24 2 роки тому

      Next time come to Kenya, don't go to communist illiterate country

    • @marydavis7978
      @marydavis7978 2 роки тому +5

      I've traveled to Tanzania four times! I have requested late check outs without any problems! ❤ Tanzanians beautiful country lots of fresh fruits and vegetables feels good to shop with my people!

    • @dictarchelsea
      @dictarchelsea Рік тому +1

      Spot on it's their mistake

  • @UhuruSasa85
    @UhuruSasa85 Рік тому +13

    So let me get this straight - you guys went all the way to Tanzania, and didn't even know that they use an entirely different time system, AND didn't bother to learn two words of survival Swahili to facilitate communication, AND made them pay for your mistake concerning the time? Perfectly unreasonable.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  Рік тому +1

      No, you don't have it straight! Do you need some help with your English comprehension? 😊

    • @UhuruSasa85
      @UhuruSasa85 Рік тому +3

      @@oscarejdonovan No, but you obviously need some help with Swahili, and telling time. Have a great day!

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  Рік тому +2

      @@UhuruSasa85 if you expect anyone traveling to a country to learn the language of the country they're travelling to, no international travel would happen. Have a great day too!

    • @collinsghambi7315
      @collinsghambi7315 Рік тому

      U Must be stupid to think that everyone must learn your language even if you're in a foreign country

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  Рік тому +2

      @@collinsghambi7315 You've obviously not travelled much internationally so I don't blame your ignorance, but English is accepted as the common language of communication globally, and is spoken in almost every city that accepts tourists around the world 😊

  • @abbas431
    @abbas431 Рік тому +2

    I've travelled Tanzania extensively and they're generally very kind people. There might be some misunderstandings due to the language and culture but as long as you have a positive mindset, you will realise that most situations can be resolved amicably. If you start off with the mindset that you're being scammed, it's usually downhill from there. It blinds you from being able to see the facts. In this case the swahili time difference. Also, the staff probably didn't want to talk to the boss because they were afraid. There is high levels of unemployment and this results in insecurities. I understand not paying on principle due to the misunderstanding, but in the overall scheme of things $15 isn't the end of the world for guys who are travelling for fun. This could have have prevented the sour interaction and thus prevented the negative bias from forming in the first place. So if someone said that Tanzanians are taught that they can make a lot of money off white people, that's what you'll hold on to. In other words, every interaction is selectively filtered to prove your point. Change your outlook and you'll experience a whole different side of the world. This video hasn't dissuaded me from visiting Tanzania at all. It has demonstrated the need to step back and reassess my outlook on life. Thanks for that.

  • @DanRothStrong
    @DanRothStrong Рік тому +5

    I can understand your frustration, but you do really need to recognize that this was a mix-up due to cultural differences on timekeeping. As others have said, 4:00 in Swahili time is 10:00 using the time system used in most other places.

  • @billyknight4633
    @billyknight4633 Рік тому +5

    In what world have you ever been able to check out at 4pm, 30000 shillings is 12 usd, you should of just paid it

  • @darajalakidatukilomgi2362
    @darajalakidatukilomgi2362 4 місяці тому +1

    YOU CALL MY COUNTRY HORRIBLE!?
    Man don't you ever repeat that word to my country!

  • @Marcopolo-bm9hz
    @Marcopolo-bm9hz 2 роки тому +8

    Tanzania is a beautiful and friendly country and as a many times visitor I advice You to obey by rules,and You be happy!

  • @Charcmode
    @Charcmode Рік тому +3

    Those that work in hotels usually speak English.
    Harbour sharks.
    Give money, give money.

  • @NORTAMRAT
    @NORTAMRAT 2 роки тому +5

    No, it is NOT a SCAM, but in this gentle woman's eyes, you are the scammer. , it is an honest mistake and you must have paid full price. Four o'clock means not in the afternoon. What is wrong with you? The sun rises one, the sun rises two..extra. As a tourist, you have to try at least to understand the basic thing. I hope you did not drive on your left since wherever you come from you have driven your car otherwise. The girl couldn't believe people dared to cheat and see how she demanded her money. She could have rented the room to the next person already.

  • @dicksonkisanga7380
    @dicksonkisanga7380 2 роки тому +7

    Not fair to spoil the status of whole country because of individual conflict.

  • @jpmugishapps
    @jpmugishapps 2 роки тому +17

    Tbh, you wasn't mistreated, you miss understood the Swahili language. All is well, good luck.

  • @hassshoban8206
    @hassshoban8206 2 роки тому +12

    You must pay full board if you stay more than check-out time. Fact. That is the rule throughout the world.

  • @muguruki2256
    @muguruki2256 2 роки тому +10

    Stop calling them scammers. Wanting to be paid for overstaying in your accommodation is not a scam it's common practice. They may well have turned other customers away because you were already occupying the room and they've lost out on the 30k. That poor girl may well have lost her job over the missing money.

  • @louislark3068
    @louislark3068 2 роки тому +5

    Assiduously listening to your grevience and the hotel staff, it seems like a misunderstanding. I do think staff was not trying to scam you. Perhaps- you may need to hire a native tourist guide to assist you.

  • @AfroJamaican
    @AfroJamaican 2 роки тому +3

    This sound like a miscommunication to me. Check-out worldwide is between 10am and 12 noon. 1pm is like a grace period. Do your research before you travel. And how do you get off calling the country horrible?

  • @winningcapital2313
    @winningcapital2313 Рік тому +3

    “ give me money “ is almost everywhere in African countries

  • @elimubure
    @elimubure 2 роки тому +10

    I think you have not travelled enough. There are scammers all over the world..that's why people pay tour guides and companies to help them navigate in a new soil. You need to understand the culture of where you are going before arriving. I disagree with you that Tanzania is one of the worst countries, I have been in Asia and most parts of Africa. I think Tanzania is my favorite. The title is exaggerated.

    • @elimubure
      @elimubure 2 роки тому +1

      Tanzania has been consistently ranked as the best tourist destination in Africa by numerous website including TripAdvisor, safaribookings etc.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +2

      If you need to pay people to protect you from a country, maybe the country isn't a nice place to go? 😂 We've travelled through 5 African countries now and we've only encountered scammers like this is Tanzania, in the other places we've been to we've only met kind people and had good experiences. Outside of that we've cycled through many countries so we have travelled enough.. if you like Tanzania, good for you! Travelling there as a muzungu is a different experience and I have the right to think that it's the worst place I've ever been ...because it is!

    • @V.E.N.U.S3
      @V.E.N.U.S3 2 роки тому

      @@oscarejdonovan Im not from Tanzania but you cant say tanzania is the worst country just because you were almost scammed by some people tanzania is way better than you think man come on🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @elimubure
      @elimubure 2 роки тому +3

      @@oscarejdonovan not every misunderstanding is called a scam. I think it wasn't right to use this video to send your message home while it's clear that it was just misunderstanding on interpretation of time.

    • @JeromeArmstrong
      @JeromeArmstrong 2 роки тому +2

      @@oscarejdonovan If Tanzania remains the worst you've experienced of Africa, great for you, hope your luck continues, but this comes off as trashing something based on very limited ad hoc experience.

  • @TheHighfly58
    @TheHighfly58 2 роки тому +14

    The lady she said u delay to check out u need to pay the money for the room u check out 13.00pm come on Tanzania is beautiful county I'm in dar es salaam is nearly fews years now

  • @darajalakidatukilomgi2362
    @darajalakidatukilomgi2362 4 місяці тому +1

    The hotel situation was your fault, you where not educate yourself about time, so don't blame the hotel staff for your ignorance

  • @thomasmuendo1697
    @thomasmuendo1697 2 роки тому +8

    Saa Moja ...7 o'clock
    Saa mbili...8 o'clock
    Saa tatu ...9 o'clock
    Saa nne... 10 o'clock...
    And it goes on and on
    So them saying saa nne they meant 10 o'clock not 4 o'clock.
    Saa kumi is 4 o'clock...
    It was just an issues of translation here.

  • @slymusau
    @slymusau 11 місяців тому +1

    Swahili time - 4 O'clock means 10 O'clock English/Universal. That's swahili time. Even in some coastal towns in Kenya they use swahili time, the clocks there tell swahili time.

  • @pendael02
    @pendael02 6 місяців тому +1

    It is no horable country, then you were not suppose to be there.

  • @MAGAISKLAN
    @MAGAISKLAN Рік тому +1

    How much was the room? I saw a comment somewhere that it was the equivalent of $12 USD. If that’s the case, why didn’t you just pay since it turns out you stayed past checkout time?

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  Рік тому +2

      If the women weren't scamming, why wouldn't they let us talk to the guy who owns the hotel? Because they were planning to steal the money they were asking for

  • @benben8866
    @benben8866 2 роки тому +5

    Fascinating. I'm really enjoying these episodes, you're both making a really captivating travelogue. I look forward to the next episode. On a side note, my very good friend is off to Tanzania to live for a year whilst her husband teaches English there. I imagine, regarding scams and hustling, it might be different for someone living there rather than passing through.
    Wishing you both all the best for the next part of your journey.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks a lot! I'm sure the experience will be different living there vs. being a tourist, where was your friend planning to move to in Tanz by the way?

    • @benben8866
      @benben8866 2 роки тому

      @@oscarejdonovan good question and possibly something I should have asked before she left! 🤔

    • @kambamazig02024
      @kambamazig02024 2 роки тому

      That was not a scam, those ladies were asking for the late-check out fees! That is all and it is not a scam! Thoese Dutch travellers made a mistake! Period!

  • @prophetesstaunyaraffle811
    @prophetesstaunyaraffle811 Рік тому +3

    First off I have stayed in several hotels in TZ and the check out time in every hotel was 10 am !! It breaks my heart that your on hear being so ignorant and saying they are scam artists...I am sure the check out times were written in the room . Tanzanian people have always been friendly and honest. My advice to you both is to learn sum of the language or take a interpreter with you !!... there you are squatting for the night on someone's land smshshshshs

  • @mpepp9
    @mpepp9 2 роки тому +2

    Looking forward to this. Seems to be a consensus that Tanzania (along with Ethiopia) are people’s least favourites to cycle through on that side of Africa

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому

      Looking back it wasn't actually that bad, compared at least to the constant stone throwing and civil wars that Ethiopia has, but just lots of annoyance and scamming which I think we're a little better equipped to deal with now 😅

  • @TradingPHD
    @TradingPHD Рік тому

    it's a misunderstanding .. In tanzania, when they say ( saa 4 Asubuhi ) that means at 10:00 A.M..
    but you guys checked out saa 9 Jioni ,
    That means 3:00 P.M
    But they is not hotel in the world that people can check out 3:A.P

  • @bantukhemet12
    @bantukhemet12 2 роки тому +16

    Here we go westerners influencing people not to go to Tanzania 🇹🇿 because of one incident. How many times do we see bad things in the West - we do not then generalise whole of the west do we.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +1

      Please read the pinned comment

    • @paulfelkner6749
      @paulfelkner6749 2 роки тому +2

      Not only that, you need to at least try to understand the local culture. This reminds me of Italy, where if you call a cab to your hotel the meter starts running as the cab driver leaves the his station, not after you get in the taxi like the states. But I knew that because I read about their culture. Can you imagine getting into an argument with our taxi driver?
      Additionally, they say they paid almost 100,000 shillings for three nights. that's only 43 USD; so they were asking for half of 14USD, not worth the argument, the maid got at least that from me as a tip.

    • @bantukhemet12
      @bantukhemet12 2 роки тому +2

      @@paulfelkner6749 exactly , that’s my point. Understanding the local culture is important.
      The point you gave about Italy is very valid , whilst in UK if you don’t give ur work the right tax code they might charge you higher without bother to ask for the right one even thoe they know ur pay is way lower -unless you say something.” And notify them.
      Dishonesty is everywhere but the women may wanted 7 dollars for her to eat even thoe we know it’s not right
      And everywhere were there is poverty amongst locals we will see such things.

    • @paulfelkner6749
      @paulfelkner6749 2 роки тому +1

      @@bantukhemet12 Also, when you travel you are an informal ambassador of your country and as an American I am quite blessed and knew that since I was five years old. When you travel to the poorer regions of the world be prepared, prepared to tip generously because you can afford it, giving somebody a day's pay cost me practically nothing but makes a difference in somebody''s life, at least for a day.
      BTW: people bother you more in San Fransisco California for money than any place I have traveled to; and they don't pick up your bag.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +3

      I don't pay scammers on principle.. I had the money they wanted in my pocket and it wouldn't have hurt to pay, but I'd rather give that money to someone kind, and we do regularly while travelling. We save our extra money for hungry children and villagers. I don't and will never financially reward threatening or dishonest behaviour

  • @pendael02
    @pendael02 6 місяців тому

    They were correct, because in Tanzania the check out for all hotel it is at 10.00 am to allow cleaning. I understand that, other country checking out is within 24 hours from the check in time.

  • @Sobbayi
    @Sobbayi Рік тому +2

    Oh my, the video starts off with basic Swahili miscommunication. Time in swahili is actually inverted on the clockface. so the hotel was right on the checkout time 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ahmedtahirgamur550
    @ahmedtahirgamur550 2 роки тому +4

    you seems you cheated her, why are you guys filming while you are still wrong ? nothing is free , we can see here generous people help you out , while you are out of money ....

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +2

      It seems you are making things up and ignoring most of what happens in the video to fit your agenda... 😂

  • @jayteegamble
    @jayteegamble 2 роки тому +2

    Wow that's a lot of climbing. You bike tourists are amazing. We did a week-long ride across South Dakota USA, highest altitude was 1935m and even that altitude made some of us sick, lethargic, and bad at climbing. I suppose all the drinking didn't help either.

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому

      We've luckily adjusted somewhat as most of the countries we're cycling through sit at approximately 1500m on a huge plateau, so luckily we can avoid much of the heat, but Tanzania still had some tough gradients! Once Africa is done and we've saved some money back up I'm looking forward to tackling some of the climbs in the Rockies too some day in the future!

  • @Truthful79
    @Truthful79 8 місяців тому

    I was searching if Tanzania is safe. Seems not good.
    Can you please tell wich country is the most safe in Africa

  • @mhotepx3452
    @mhotepx3452 Рік тому

    As a black American this so beautiful to see them get what they put down you go South Africa

  • @justsaying1858
    @justsaying1858 2 роки тому +1

    I don't get it, if you can check out at 4, when does the next guest check in because they need to clean the room and check in starts at 12. All over the world, check out is at 10

  • @HieroPharaoh
    @HieroPharaoh Рік тому +1

    The person you checked in with should have known you know nothing about Swahili time, but that is how lax the communication and service is often times. That is until its time to pay, LOL!

  • @judithkirenga9977
    @judithkirenga9977 10 місяців тому

    This sister is not wrong, in Tanzania if we say 4 that means 10am and not 4pm, now that you have increased the hours being late, her boss will surely charge her more money because you will be staying for two days and you were asked to check out at 10am in the morning

  • @prieten49
    @prieten49 Рік тому +5

    On a side note, Tanzania is a big destination for African Americans who want to "go home" to Africa. I subscribe to several UA-cam channels where they talk about their experiences. Many tell similar stories of scamming and official corruption. They say that some Tanzanians don't care whether the foreigner is white or Black, they are viewed as walking ATM machines. The phrase you will here over and over is "give me money!"

    • @nachina3089
      @nachina3089 Рік тому

      Rubbish you and your counterpart if you don't have money then don't come to tanzania period
      They have visa issue with the Tanzanian immigration and they include every single citizen for your information some of Tanzanian out there don't even know your existence.
      I use to watch some of their UA-cam videos and now I had enough they all after something if they can't get it they create lies about tanzania this tanzania that.

    • @gratitude5740
      @gratitude5740 Рік тому +1

      I've been travelling to Tanzania for the last 10 years . Visited 7 times and preparing my 8th trip. Yes! We are walking ATMs.
      Getting overcharged on everything simply because they know we don't live there.
      I expect to pay, but not more than a local person because that is not fair or justified.

  • @rodgersshitobelo7607
    @rodgersshitobelo7607 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the first point on explanations at the end of the video “Tanzania in general was a beautiful country” so it is better if you change your title instead of spoiling other people who are willing to visit Tanzania,
    “Comfortable while wild camping” in general this sounds selfish to me, life is not complete without people, and everywhere you go you’ll need people, and you will find good people and bad people. I think all the struggles you’ve got won’t be to this extent if would find someone to trust, who understand and speak both English and Swahili to help you on your journey, and at least teaching you some basic Swahili words to facilitate the good communication, not google, because google doesn’t know Swahili enough as people does.
    Tanzania is the big country with many tribe and different culture and life style, even for a Tanzanian to visit the different culture or tribe we must learn how to behave, how do they live , and learning basic words to help communicating with those who doesn’t speak Swahili. This is what you were supposed to do. Everywhere in this world there’re good people and bad people, but we escape from bad people by learning from good people.
    Camping in the wild was confy for you, which is way more dangerous since you are very far from people but you made it safely. Am very disappointed with the tittle of video which doesn’t help other people to understand your experience and instead you’ve got in to your own conclusion which it is not fair
    Tanzania is one of the best country and peacefull one but this doesn’t mean you won’t find the scammers but you can escape them easier by have good communication with good people.
    All the best to your journey

  • @nzappazapp8360
    @nzappazapp8360 2 роки тому +2

    Swahili time is different and if you directly translate to how time is said in English there will be confusion.

  • @laclutchurbnturbn
    @laclutchurbnturbn Рік тому +1

    you check out at 11 EVERYWHERE never 4....you are wrong... 1:30 pm is curtoucy

  • @jamessmith2214
    @jamessmith2214 Рік тому +1

    If you visit another country it's your responsibility to learn the proper way of communicating. It sound to me like you took advantage of them. I've always had to go or call where I was checked in at to request extra time. It is your problem! You guys took advantage of them!

  • @marcodeijmann5064
    @marcodeijmann5064 2 роки тому +3

    spannende aflevering! Goed dat jullie zo positief blijven. Goede reis verder nog! 🙂👍

  • @PedalTz
    @PedalTz 9 місяців тому

    Ohh Pole Time here is read the opposite way to be precise: The day starts at 6AM (with sun rise) and ends at 6PM (with sunset). This means 12 is 6 and 3 is 9 and so on. Though directly accusing the whole country for a single experience isnt fair and you should have done your research. kindly change the Title, Tanzania is an amazing travel country especially by bike, Suggest get involved with local clubs and get the necessary info/Contacts needed for your travel, we have a network all over Tanzania precisely to help make Tanzania tourism experience better and the advice comes free of charge.

  • @yoshy2628
    @yoshy2628 8 місяців тому

    @oscarejdonovan - I have never encounter a hotel that can do check out later than 14:00 in this life, for free.
    Usually I have to ask at reception if they can allow for a late check out, and off course will be a fee.

  • @winningcapital2313
    @winningcapital2313 Рік тому +1

    This is embarrassing Tanzanians we gotta do better

  • @jasiribusiness2544
    @jasiribusiness2544 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting video about the element of time " Lost in translation " - English to Swahili and vice versa.

  • @gratitude5740
    @gratitude5740 Рік тому +1

    You guys are brave !!!

  • @denniskirwa7880
    @denniskirwa7880 Рік тому +1

    i really recomend Tanzanians to come for english lessons from kenya

    • @UhuruSasa85
      @UhuruSasa85 Рік тому +6

      How about entitled foreigners learn two words of Swahili instead?

    • @israhmkoma4150
      @israhmkoma4150 Рік тому

      You need English lessons ys

    • @teejoee993
      @teejoee993 Рік тому

      How about them learning Swahili stupid

  • @hoseastephen4508
    @hoseastephen4508 Рік тому +1

    Tanzania and Ethiopia could be different to other African countries in terms of language, culture etc. What I see there is language barrier between you and the lodge attendant no scamming at all and you should have understood that.

  • @birianination7097
    @birianination7097 Рік тому

    Plus please report this video on youtube as bullying and abuse

  • @islamispislam
    @islamispislam Рік тому +1

    The interesting part is the collision of the bikes!

  • @Vick-9o-c
    @Vick-9o-c Рік тому

    Tanzania is the best country, it's just time in Swahili is different from English,

  • @kara2162
    @kara2162 2 місяці тому

    4pm check out? I’ve never heard of such a late check out time and I have traveled and lived on four different continents.

  • @jacefreeman8713
    @jacefreeman8713 2 роки тому +13

    I don’t suppose you even considered you might have misunderstood before you slandered that poor woman. Swahili time starts at sunup, i.e 6am, so 4:00 is 10am english time. This video title and your attitude comes across as ignorant, disrespectful and entitled. Do yourself a favour and re-edit and change the title.

    • @karyori69
      @karyori69 2 роки тому +4

      He won't do since racists are always entitled to their skins!

    • @NNT66
      @NNT66 2 роки тому +2

      Hi @Jace Freeman
      So much is explained in the video, but I guess you never got to those parts..
      Absolutely we considered we may have misunderstood the lady who checked us in which is why we asked several times if we heard her correctly. We expressed our surprise at being able to leave so late but she insisted it was fine (she wasn't present in the video btw).
      Looking into Tanzanian time, all you generally find is the usual time zone changes. Not once did we hear or read about Swahili time (specific to Tanzania) until this incident and so we learned from it.
      To give you some more context; we were standing in the street being shouted at and ridiculed, for almost 40 minutes, by the ladies surrounding us - including the "poor woman" you say we slandered, who was holding Oscar's bike (stopping us from leaving) and kicking it at one point. I can assure you, the disrespect came from their side. And isn't it interesting as well that the moment we wanted to resolve it by talking to the boss, suddenly we were "allowed" to leave?
      So after a month of being continuously and relentlessly scammed, you get very very tired. That's what's being expressed and talked about in this video. It's an honest feedback log of how we experienced the country and it simply wasn't a nice experience, were not gonna sugarcoat that.

    • @Football-cl2hj
      @Football-cl2hj 2 роки тому +2

      @@NNT66 racist trying to bring everything into negativity we know y’all’s aime

    • @berthatz
      @berthatz 2 роки тому

      @@Football-cl2hj exactly😂😂😂👏🏾

    • @NNT66
      @NNT66 2 роки тому +3

      @@Football-cl2hj Why racist?

  • @olivernyange2349
    @olivernyange2349 10 місяців тому

    Before you go to any country for tourist save a lot it seems your not even in 3 star hotel thats why you get all this

  • @lulanjamd3886
    @lulanjamd3886 Рік тому

    They slept there and they wanted to leave without paying money that is why that lady was asking for the money

  • @juliusgoodchild3867
    @juliusgoodchild3867 Рік тому

    There's no hotel in the world were check out is at late afternoon, how will they get the room ready for the next customer...any way parking scam in Gatwick drop-zone beats all scams hands down ..

  • @Curioustraveller254
    @Curioustraveller254 Рік тому

    This was purely misunderstanding no scamming happened next time learn how systems work in different countries

  • @superflyrico
    @superflyrico 11 місяців тому

    Saa nne is NOT 4PM World clock - it’s 4pm KiSwahili time which is 6 hours in front of world clock, meaning check out was 10AM 🤷🏽‍♂️
    They were NOT extorting you and this issue happens a lot in Tanzania IT IS NOT A SCAM but a cultural difference that most travellers do not respect.
    It’s certainly not a “horrible” country as I’ve lived in UK for 40 years and I’ve known far worse Racist Opportunism and violence from locals for simply being different from them.
    Whilst living in UK I’ve had many positive experiences but on the flip side had also been told that most Europeans /Caucasians think Afrikans are stuck in the Stone Age, are Primative or generally stupid… the media fuelled insidious racism is perhaps most shocking when found in government policies targeting Afrikans by race ie The Windrush Scandal insisting that Afrikans must be deported for literally no reason!

  • @TopFiveAfrican
    @TopFiveAfrican Рік тому

    6:17 explains everything

  • @kara2162
    @kara2162 2 місяці тому

    The stranger helping wanted to pay half himself and they still threw the entire country under the bus with his video?! Get wrecked.

  • @8wy51
    @8wy51 Рік тому

    Wow! Will visit these countries via youtube!

  • @jamesnderitu1681
    @jamesnderitu1681 Рік тому

    In Swahili you say 4AM to mean 10AM

  • @darajalakidatukilomgi2362
    @darajalakidatukilomgi2362 4 місяці тому

    Always the poor created a situation, check out is 10am you are checking out at 3pm
    What she is telling you by you checking out late they miss the cleaning
    Wageni matapeli nyie, you know she is working and if you don't pay the late fees is going to cost her job, pay the late fees the cleaning money
    I can even here the people around they said they even knock the door for you to leave the room, wageni wahuni

  • @winningcapital2313
    @winningcapital2313 Рік тому +1

    The guy in white shirt is nice person

  • @nelliekamau
    @nelliekamau Рік тому

    Watanzania wamechoma!!!!this is one county I will never set foot in

  • @barbarareid7884
    @barbarareid7884 8 місяців тому

    They are very negative tourists.

  • @the-collegebookworm5820
    @the-collegebookworm5820 2 роки тому

    Change the name " before we die " Its not appealing

  • @SA-xj8hc
    @SA-xj8hc 2 роки тому +4

    Why you don’t fly home instead of traveling that “horrible country “.
    Money extortion in the West is the worst with your small print in the papers to sign. You Muzungu always you are negative about people of other countries. I wonder why people they don’t treat you like the way you treat foreigners in your countries.

    • @abdourazakndeze4157
      @abdourazakndeze4157 2 роки тому +1

      They want african peoples to treat them like special people...why they're don't make video like that on their country where african peoples harassed every corner of Europe and America.

    • @abdourazakndeze4157
      @abdourazakndeze4157 2 роки тому +1

      He can't afford to travel across america with bike it's expensive...in africa is cheaper and Tanzania is not horrible country like u'r countries . Just you people's when you come to Africa you just want or expect special treatment. That is impossible those times of special treatment has gone lon ago...respect other people culture and you will get respected equal . Don't come here with your western mind set and start talking rabish about other countries...every country has bad people and good ones.

  • @allenkalalu6006
    @allenkalalu6006 Рік тому

    ha ha ha ha! It seems like mix up of time! matter of swahili time and English time!!

  • @zhengxing9595
    @zhengxing9595 2 роки тому

    Tanzania use the japan time,once they said the time, double check morning or afternoon, tanzania time or international time

    • @abdourazakndeze4157
      @abdourazakndeze4157 2 роки тому

      When this people (western) come to Africa they're think their special...that's how problems start...many of them don't obey the rules of an African countries...they just want to force people to treat them like special people...wich is impossible in this world we're living in today...every thing has changed lot...wha about us african living abroad they know situations we passing in in western countries...it's worse than what they geting in Africa and hafter that they start making noises on UA-cam

    • @abdourazakndeze4157
      @abdourazakndeze4157 2 роки тому +1

      Respect checking in and checking out like how you have respected the rules in western countries don't just coming to Africa to start impose african to treat you like a special. You're not ..you're just tuarist like others...do you know what african peoples faces when they are in your country? They treat them like shit..so why you Mzungu come to Africa and expect african to obey you like a master!!!? That day have gone long time ago...if you respect people's culture you will get respected back..in every country like that even in your country...and in your country they treat african badly more than you get in africa...to say Tanzania relay on tourist income that is lies. Tanzania economy relay on natural resources God has given them. Stop talk noncess your little money never or will never contribute on Tanzania economy

  • @lulanjamd3886
    @lulanjamd3886 Рік тому

    Mpumbavu sana wewe how can you dare to call our country wrost county only for the few people you meet

  • @jumawaziri8501
    @jumawaziri8501 2 роки тому

    i think you what you are doin in not right to despise and say bad things about Tanzania is not worth at all. the way we live in Tanzania is quite different from where u came from. pls do nor put negative things about Tanzania, you have bad intentions to our country . pls stop doing that . pls stop lying to the world about our country.

  • @evelynbagley5400
    @evelynbagley5400 2 роки тому +1

    That's for you,that's your opinion,

  • @EdmoniseSimei
    @EdmoniseSimei 7 місяців тому

    Hi people

  • @sketolene1
    @sketolene1 2 роки тому +1

    Almost hotel s check out is 10 am. And in 12 am in daresalam !

  • @bicycleit2383
    @bicycleit2383 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for that i won't be going there

  • @hassshoban8206
    @hassshoban8206 2 роки тому +1

    Mlikuwa msiwaache wamefanya makusudi hao hakuna nchi mtu mweusi usipolipa bill yako wakuacha huko kwao ulaya. Check-out ikipita ulipie siku nzima. Huyo kaka aliyekua akitafsiri amekosea sana.

  • @karyori69
    @karyori69 2 роки тому +3

    A swahili saa nne (04:00) in English is 10:00 am! Plse acquiant urself of simple things liker time in swahili! So u were basically told 10:00 am was a checkout AND NOT 04:00 pm!

    • @jnjugu10
      @jnjugu10 2 роки тому +3

      It's upon the hotel to tell it's guests, not the other way round. This is totally uncalled for and it's ugly.

    • @karyori69
      @karyori69 2 роки тому +3

      @@jnjugu10 But when u visit a new country u need to learn a few things especially if your mission is to mix with the locals! Try to learn even the local language.
      I find these two are stupid to have put up a clip tarnishing the whole country even after admitting it was a confusion of their English interpretation of swahili hours!

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +1

      There were many other foreigners staying here, it was just an excuse for the hotel workers to try and steal money from us. Why else would they refuse to let us talk to the owner of the hotel, and why would they only want the money in cash?

    • @karyori69
      @karyori69 2 роки тому +3

      @@oscarejdonovanfrom the clip it's obvious the receptionists couldn't speak English! BTW how come an isolated case becomes an issue for the whole country? Have you people lost your minds?

    • @oscarejdonovan
      @oscarejdonovan  2 роки тому +1

      @@karyori69 We were in Tanzania for a month and had people attempting scams almost every day. The only people not doing this were far out in rural areas. In cities, people would be overcharging, following us, harassing for money every hour or two, this was just the first time I caught a situation on camera, and the first time we were stopped from leaving a situation. Tell me, why didn't the workers want us speaking to their boss, if they were not trying a scam? There were other foreigners staying here, all instructions were written in English and we were shown to our room and explained the rules in English - 'welcome, here is your room, you may check out at 4pm.' '4pm? Wow that's very late!' 'Yes it's allowed!'

  • @socheldandy8603
    @socheldandy8603 Рік тому

    🙄🙄🙄

  • @ephraimblack5578
    @ephraimblack5578 2 роки тому

    Report her to the police 🚓 conmanship. This is why some tourist never come back.

  • @Trendingnewstubes
    @Trendingnewstubes 2 роки тому +3

    Muzungu una tabia mbaya

  • @kara2162
    @kara2162 2 місяці тому

    4pm check out? I’ve never heard of such a late check out time and I have traveled and lived on four different continents.