You can just keep the 30+ million in Mexican sponsorship. And all the Merch Sales. By just placing Pato O'Ward. I guess Red Bull has become allergic to money? 😅 Because as a Business decision Pato makes most sense by far.
Yeah but they don't sell hats the way checo does. Not lying. That's why they're even entertaining the idea of keeping checo. He's commercially successful in latin America
Putting Lawson next to the Verstappen will ruin his confidence within 5 races, Gasly and Albon had more experience at the time and they got destroyed by a maturing Verstappen in 2019-20, only one who should get Perez's seat is Tsunoda imo.
Have you watched his documentary? He has a way different mindset than albon or gasly. I think the worst that will happen is 5 races in they will would swap him and Daniel Riccardo or Yuki. But I honestly believe he will do well, he has been runner up in almost every series he has races in.
Checo has 0 wins this season and hasn’t looked close to one either. Compared to 6 other drivers winning and Piastri being close multiple times this season. Checo is one of my favorite drivers, but he can’t expect to keep that seat after all this. He needs to be looking out for some midfield teams, because he’s great in the midfield, not in a top team.
They really need to reevaluate Bird, and see if a better option is available for an engineer then maybe consider if checo is the right fit. Bird is Red Bull’s Xavi, and some of his calls are just bonkers.
bird is their last protective wall to justify perez paddy-wack undrivable performance for 3 seasons in a row, if Perez should choose to finally find his tongue (unlikely and probably useless at this point in time) then bird will get most of the hit and thrown down the bus to clean RB of any direct wrong doing or intention... Funny how absolutely every single youtuber-influencer and media influencers like brundle sky fox and DAZN all fail to even consider its the car, yet when it comes to LH or ALO or LEC its the car not the driver..., funny how all of them also fail to point out that maybe Submissive Perez is STILL there because he has kept his mouth shut about everything, and should he disclose everything then is more than likely it'll be the end of RB for a time in F1 and a major hit in their overall sports branch
As much as I'd love to see Lawson in the RB20 I'd imagine RBR wants him to at least do a full season before getting that call up. Yes he's proved that he's more than capable of being quick in an F1 car but he needs more seat time and that's probably best given in the Junior team. I am Australian and have some inherent favour towards Daniel, but honestly put him in for the rest of the year and get Lawson in the RB, if Danny flounders get rid of him for next year that's his time in the sport over And Lawson will at least have had more time and could go to RBR for next year. I'd like to see Yuki get the seat but he's more than likely going to Aston with Honda.
Spot on above, and I cannot see RBR thinking much differently. Daniel is poor in a poor car, we know that... but for some reason in the Red Bull he's just fast. Well, let it be and let's get that WCC. Re-evaulate end of the year for next years seating.
Move Daniel into Perez's seat and Lawson into Daniel's seat. If Daniel doesn't perform for the rest of the year, let him go. At that point, Lawson may have enough experience and confidence to move him in to the seat beside Max, which allows for another junior seat available at Vcarb.
I don't think Daniel would be interested in running a team. He already has a wine company and loves the U.S. He might go to Indy car for a few years or even WEC.
I just hope that if they replace Checo they don't put Lawson in that seat. Putting a rookie in there in such a high pressure position probably doesn't end well. Ideally Tsunoda gets the promotion but even Ricciardo is an improvement over Checo.
From my perspective the correct option is to put Riccardo in the seat (it’s why they hired him) if he performs, he keeps the seat. But if he doesn’t get the results they can promote either Tsunoda or Lawson next season and get a new driver into VCARB.
I wouldn't put Yuki in the senior team. He hasn't shown anything special in the time he has been in F1 and his entitled brat attitude and outbursts are unbearable. He won't be a good fit in the senior team as #2 driver.
The point regarding Checo's sponsors is not that meainingful if they lose the championship. Apart from the championship money they will lose, many sponsors pay premium to be featured on champion team, so the monetary loss from getting second in the constructurs's is not just the prize money.
Perez fate is in Danny's hands, I see three permutations. 1. Perez does well - Perez keeps his seat. 2. Perez does badly while Danny does well - Danny replaces him. 3. Perez and Danny does badly while Yuki does really well -Perez keeps his seat.
I think the best outcome is to just put Danny into the RB (regardless of performance) for the rest of the season. If he does well he keeps the seat, if not they can see how Lawson and Tsunoda compare over a longer period. It also gives them the opportunity to get more new talent in (assuming Daniel doesn’t perform).
I don't understand 3. If Perez and Danny do badly then surely Lawson and or Tsunoda take the RBR seat and they leave Daniel or Perez in the RB until years end?
@@arifromoz2 Tsunoda will never get promoted to RBR and Lawson hasn't even had a full-time F1 seat yet. The pressure of being thrown right into RBR next to Max would eat him up. I think if they're gonna drop Perez from RBR, it will be Danny replacing him until the end of the season, and if he does poorly, they will look for drivers outside of RB. Sainz would probably be an option. Or Hulkenberg
@@arifromoz2 I don't understand 3 either to be fair but its just what everyone seems to be rolling with, there is nothing Yuki can do to get the redbull seat, but if the results were reversed this season, Danny would have already been in and with a 2025 redbull contract.
I can’t understand how anyone thinks putting a rookie Lawson (who’s junior career wasn’t that good by f1 standards) straight into a red bull Mid season against one of the best f1 drivers ever is a good idea
on point,they are going to keep perez, he doesnt makes any problems,and when the car is more neutral and not so much the way max likes it ,he is in the mix,he helped max win both championships, he made more than albon gasly and kvyat all toguether ,putting lawson next to max is shotting him in the foot
Lawson has more potential than all the other options. He's known for his ability to adapt to cars quickly - last year was a good example. However the question remains if he can tap into that talent to be great.
It’s most crazy to me that Red Bull keeps “stringing” Checo on by constantly remarking he needs to improve to retain his seat. The threats have gone on for about a year now. To me it seems that they’ll have to either actually drop Checo soon, or stop giving us constant reminders he needs to improve, because the believability is wearing out fast from Red Bull
Sadly I thought Checo was turning it around during the free practice sessions in silverstone being there with the time leaders. However, the spin in qualifying into the gravel ruined his weekend, which was further compounded by the switch to the inters. Listening in on the race, this was the first time I didn't hear horner on checo's radio at the end of the race. To me was the biggest sign that RB will be getting rid of checo. Could you imagine they drop him, try daniel, say he ain't it, and sign Carlos to RB for next year?
That is what they should have done in the first place ( signing Carlos ) instead of resigning Checo. Maybe Checo brings in more financialy than we can see. The difference between being the team champion or being third ( after McLaren and Mercedes ( sorry Ferrari but you have the Leclerc curse )) maybe compensated by the pesos Checo brings in. Then the main sponsors will offer less money to be on the car, because it is not the champ car anymore. Think, think and think again. I don't even think putting Liam in that car is a good option. It will ruin his mind getting destroyed by Max. Put Yuki in and give the bloke a few years, before sacking him as well.
@@patricktrakzel9657”maybe Checo brings in more financially than we see”? Perez boasts sponsorship deals with the likes of Disney, Telcel, Mobil, Claro, Nescafé and KitKat. Those are big money sponsors……that is the reason they resigned him, to help pay Max’s salary. Carlos doesn’t brings any money and has lost sponsors.
Here's something to consider: Remember Checo was looking to win a championship. When that was the case, he was pushing hard and making wins. As soon as he accepted that in the team, he will always be the "Red Bottas", his performance dropped... a LOT.
But unlike Bottas he isn’t better than Max at anything, Valtteri at least has some wild one lap pace and could out qualify Lewis more if Toto didn’t threaten to murder him and his family every time he did
@@stevenedwardyoung To be fair, what happened in Miami should've never happened. Max starting in P9 and without even a single yellow or red flag, green flag racing from start to finish. Checo should've won that race but couldn't. I think his confidence broke there.
As a Liam fan I would love to see Yuki in that Red Bull seat because he earned it. I think Liam has enough experience in different series to handle the pressure. Even Daniel in the Rd Bull would be interesting. So long as Liam gets a drive in either seat I am happy.
As a Red Bull fan and someone who believed that Checo was a great running mate for Max early on w the new car. It seems that his feel for the car has slipped over the last two years. I’m am surprised that he has not been given the boot. MV must be super comfortable w Checo as the second driver.
Checo fan here in the bad times ❤ I'm glad to see other drivers do well instead of checo always being P2 like we thought in the beginning. Happy for Logan! P11 smells like points in upcoming sprints! My American-Mexican blood roots for them both! 🇲🇽🇺🇸🍾🙏🏻
I was so happy for Logan! I really don’t understand the hate for checo. He’s been an awesome wingman for max and deserves better. I hope things turn around for both Checo and Logan.
@@TheYorkshireGeordie listen I’m no Max fan but the man is Levels beyond a driver like Lando if anything Lando is probably on the level of Sainz than a Max/Leclerc
@@user-ni7qv1nd8oIf I want actual racing I'll go to Indy where the cars can hold up to it better. F1 cars are still way too sensitive for entertaining racing that lasts longer than a lap or two unfortunately
Checo started off the season strong. But after race 5 or was it 6, he's had such a significant performance drop its insane. Did a significant upgrade come around that checo just cannot adapt to or? I just find it hard to believe a driver could just suddenly fall off mid season
We love Checo. Sometimes, it's okay to take a break and just enjoy being dad. Take a break and come back to a midfield team without the shadow of Red Bull.
Why don't people remember/recall Marko talking down Yuki because he was 'forced' on Red Bull/Torro Rosso by Honda. Has he matured as a driver? Yes. Who has helped him do that? Riccardo. It wasnt his best mate Gasly. Yuki still doesn't have the mind set/mentality to step up to the top team. and still doesnt know how to provide meaningfull feedback to the engineers and factory (admits that DR3 is teaching him in all facets). Can L Lawson do it? Maybe? Maybe not? - best thing for Lawson would be the rest of this season in VCARB next to Yuki. Again, not much if any proven record of how to provide meaningfull feedback to the engineers and factory. DR3 replaces Checo after the summer break (going of last years tire test at silverstone - Dan and Max like the same set up/style of car), It might get them the constructors having DR3 up there on the podiums and gives them the chance to keep L Lawson and assess him and Yuki for the step up to the top team
For me Yuki doesn't deserve that seat at the senior team. He hasn't shown anything special to be promoted to the senior team and more than that his entitled brat attitude is unbearable. If he behaves the way he does at the junior team, how much worse will it be at the senior team where he will be #2 driver?
The problem is that the car is so sharp at the front end only a top driver, a Leclerc or a Russell can drive it. Good luck getting one of them to partner Max at "his" team.
I like that these videos don’t just bash the driver because that’s the popular thing to do, and actually take the time to look at all sides to the story. It’s rather refreshing to see
Whoever RBR put in that seat, will need to be able to handle a max-like setup. As the season progresses and the car is further optimized to max, it gets further away from how checo likes it. The rest is having a mindset capable of not comparing yourself to a driver like max in peak form, and being able to develop. Oscar is doing that part well, so far
Dude Antonelli has been destroying Ollie in the championship in his first championship. What else could he do if Prema just wasnt there this part of the season
I still think that Danny Ric should get the seat because of how that car suits his driving style so well. Maybe redbull should do a mid season swap with checo and Riccardo to see how he performs in comparison?
My suggestion is Switch Daniel and Checo for rest of this season and see what are the results.. maybe Daniel will be as good as in his old days and if he doesn't perform hire Yuki for the next season onwards.. and Daniel and extract more performance out of the car on his days like Brasil and Mexico like season and China in this season
Yup... this is the most logical outcome. Placing Tsunoda is a risk of a blow up with he and Max, and the team cannot afford that with a WCC on the line. Placing Lawson is just too early. let him run till the end of the year in the mid-field and if he's on fire, then promote him if Daniel is ordinary.
You think, DR on a 5 year slump, who can't drive these new gen cars, who McLaren paid $18 million to please never drive a McLaren again, who Team Principal after Team Principal has thought if I can get this guy in my car he will perform and hasn't, that DR will suddenly perform in another team and in another car. I think we have more chance waiting to 2026 to see if he likes the next gen cars because he doesn't like these one.
@@desshinnick9365yes I do think DR will do better, he literally likes the same set up as Max, the Renault and McLaren cars were not suited to his driving style. The RedBull is a far better car for Danny. And you can say he’s had a 5 year slump but even in cars he wasn’t compatible with he still managed to win races.
@@alwayswondering127 I think you are talking about the DR of 2018. The DR that can't drive these new fangled cars introduced in 2022. But hey, throw him in there and watch him sink. He can't even beat Tsunoda. Even Lawson jumping into the car cold was out performing him. He was meant to come in and run rings around Tsunoda. It turned out to be the other way around. I think it's clear he just doesn't get this new generation car. How long are we all going to wait for a car to be right for him. Come on, if he's good, he'll perform. Let's park the excuses and acknowledge the results with his years of experience.
As a new f1 fan who’s been binging the history and all the background, it’s redbull’s car. Max is having similar troubles with the car as Checo, he’s just on a different level so he can fight them better. Checo is an experienced driver, he drives well, both drivers are fighting a car that’s fighting them back. It doesn’t help that the other teams are stepping up their development game. It makes the entire thing look worse because the redbull car no longer has the performance gap to keep them out of having to fight for podiums (max) and points (checo). I hope even if he loses the redbull contract, he gets picked up on a smaller team. He still has some spark left in him, he just needs a team that cares and a car that works.
Consider the fact that Sergio Perez was Hülkenberg's teammate at Force India for a few years and performed at a similar level. Now, Hülkenberg got more points in the last two races than Perez in the last six. The 2nd driver at Red Bull was so consistently behind Max now, except briefly in 2022 after a regulation revolution, to the point that it's obvious that Red Bull hand-tailors their cars to Max's needs and wants to the point that the 2nd driver gets left behind unless they have the exact same driving style or can somehow adapt to it. A driver's performance outside of that Red Bull is no indicator for their performance in that seat anymore. For all we know, Lance Stroll or Logan Seargant could perform at Max's level in that car.
aint no way RB has a 100 point difference clause in Sergio's contract. Last year Max had 575 points vs Perez's 285. That would be a garantee basically.
I think he said 100 point and x places in the Drivers standings behind Max. Perez is P5 and heading to P8 in the drivers. It looks like the P factor that triggers the problem.
I don't know why anyone thinks Tsunoda will get that seat, it is between Lawson and Ricciardo. Red Bull have never shown interest in Tsunoda and the last thing they want is drama between drivers, flashpoints, fighting and an overall more intense atmosphere to add to what they already have. I really hope Lawson doesn't get the Red Bull seat immediately, as he has very little experience and his confidence will just be shattered by Max, which could potentially make Lawson look incapable and diminish his image as a strong driver. That leaves Daniel, who I think will probably take the seat because he is the safe option, and the perfect driver to boost team morale, and potentially sort of steady the ship at Red Bull, hopefully being quicker than Perez and a strong number 2 driver, full of confidence. Daniel too brings in a lotttt of cash which Red Bull always love. That's just my take on the situation and I think is the best option for Red Bull when looking from the outside in.
Yup. Yuki is a forced option cos he's Japanese guy and Honda supplies engines. He hasn't shown anything special in the time he has been in f1 and his attitude is unbearable. Theres no reason to put an entitled brat into the senior team. DR is the safest option. DR to the senior team and Lawson to replace him at VCarb. Let Lawson develop and then put him in fhe senior team.
@@alonsocordero5964not sure why you’re laughing, Ricciardo likes the same set up as Max and performed well in RedBull when they had cars that couldn’t perform anywhere near as well as the RB20. There’s no way Tsunoda gets the seat, and Lawson needs more practice. It only makes sense to Put Danny in for the rest of the season and if he does well then great, if not then he’s out too.
@@alwayswondering127 Ricciardo is about to be replaced by Lawson, he has been consistently outperformed by Yuki since he came back...that's why I am laughing my ass off. The bias is hillarious with you people, Checo will stay for the rest of the season, I'll be back here in early September to remind yall
How about discussing Bird? I understand Checo's flaws, failures and inconsistency, but let's also recognize the multiple occasions when his garage lead has made calls that are highly questionable and with actual racing impact, either on strategy, car balance, tire choice and timing, etc.....is there a garage role on the proven decline of the second redbull driver (Danny, Pierre, Albon, Checo)?
The biggest takeaway is that Liam Lawson's future as a driver is/should be worth exponential times more to RBR than Checo does right now OR in the future. He's young, he's quick and he may very well be a WDC contender down the road. There is virtually zero upside to keeping Checo with Lawson and Tsunoda waiting in the wings. They can't afford to lose Lawson given the state of their junior driver program. They need to end this BS and just make the damn call already. It's so glaringly obvious and as a Merc fan, I'm somehow embarrassed for RBR that they haven't already figured this out themselves.
Honestly as a Checo fan at this point id rather see him in a Haas or Williams where he could prosper in a midfield environment, because that RedBull environment clearly doesn’t work for him. Also hope he’s doing well at a human level because all this pressure and criticism could be getting in his head.
Yuki should be promoted. He's on the same level as Oscar is given the proper car. He can be moulded into a 2nd driver with time..he's young and talented. Deserves.
I like to think RB wanted to keep him on as he is not going to challenge Max during the race weekends. Meaning all Max has to do is stay clean and battle Lando and Russell. But now that the other cars have caught up to RB, they need a 2nd driver to help Max win. One thing people don't realize either is because Checo is driving so poor they can't use a lot of his data to help push the car forward with upgrades. He crashes a lot. He's in dirty air a lot. So comparing data from Max and Checo after a weekend is going to show wildly varying results. It could make upgrades slower or harder to make.
@@JohnnyBitcoin I don’t think he should leave but there is much better drivers at worse teams. I think Perez would fit better in a team like Williams, Saubur, or Alphatauri
I am not sure that Red Bull have the 'young driver talent' tree in their front garden anymore. Not like they had when Seb, Daniel, Max or even Yuki came along. So I'm not entirely sure where they pluck two young talents from to stick in the VCARB team were they to pension off Sergio and Daniel. Certainly they aren't finding two young talents who can also drive sponsorship either.
@@LawVS Indeed, just like Max has now become the most successful Dutchie ever, and Checo the most successful Mexican driver as well for that matter. They might lose Mexico with the switch, but who knows how faithful to Red Bull the Japanese fans can become, they can be super devoted over there.
The pressure for Max's teammates is a shame because let's be honest he and Hamilton are generational talents on the current grid. If a teammate can put up even OK placements for the car Max will probably carry the team to a solid constructors placement.
This could be a comeback for Daniel Ricciardo. From the hit team Visa-Cash App-RB, the same man who beat Max Verstappen in equal machinery then threw away his career.
Red Bull are in a Constructors Title Battle, and a big reason for that is because of the underperformance of Sergio relative to Max. The irony is, replacing Sergio might not be the solution it appears to be. If anything it might expose the Red Bull car to greater scrutiny if the person sat next to Max is also unable to perform.
I commented on RBs post of this contract that I am curious what sort of Riccardo McLaren thing is going to happen, and yeah watching it kinda unfold now
Put Ricciardo in the RB next to Max. Put Lawson in the Vcarb. When Ricciardo retires/released, promote Yuki. Bring in new young driver to replace Yuki. Verstappen retires/leaves. Promote Lawson or sign big name. It's not rocket science. I'm one of thise guys who thinks Daniel should retire, but it would be pretty awesome to see him back in the RB and he would perform better than Perez.
Perez was a good driver,but not anymore (since 2021) and what red bull needs now is get rid of sergio perez and daniel ricciardo,put carlos sainz in red bull and liam lawson in the rb
@@AndrewGeierMelonsSr is a champion driver himself, I think he'll definitely be more agreeable than Jos and so will Max, he won't care who his teammate.The only one who might not want Carlos in red bull is Jos
I feel for the junior program. Hadjar seems like a good enough driver to get a seat. That little move in Monaco to avoid certain death was amazing. When he wins F2 this year he will be without a seat.
As a Finnish viewer I appreciate the Kovalainen mention. He doesn't get much attention and I really like him as an expert commentator in our F1 broadcasts.
@@tristen12356789 i hope not, I dont want to see him in the same situation as albon or gasly. I'd much rather they let him develop in the sister team for a year or two
I reckon it'll lead to Daniel getting the RBR seat for a year, Liam goes in with Yuki and then Liam goes up to RBR allowing either Hadjar or Crawford in next.
@@LawVSCrawford? He's Aston Martin isn't he? I genuinely see Arvid Linblad getting into that Redbull seat within three years max if these shenanigans continue to unfold
while i wont mind that, it wont be fair for yuki, the more experience driver. throwing liam into that seat we will likely end up in a albon/gasly situation. if it comes down to liam or danny ric, i'd go with liam.
They need to swap Danny Ric and Checo. Danny Ric drives best with a very oversteery car, and Checo drives best with an understeery car. The Red Bull is very oversteery and the VCARB is understeery. It just works out for both drivers. Either that or get Danny Ric in the car and bring in Liam Lawson to replace him at VCARB. Either way tho, Checo needs to go
The commercial advantage Perez has over young Lawson is epic. Red Bull sell cans, not cars .. and as much as I’d love to see Liam in a seat I just don’t see this change. Max needs a wingman.. maybe Ric is the best after all.
Yep Horner needs to undo his most recent two bad decisions. If Carlos replaces Perez though, that's 2025 and Horner has a Pere3z head ache now. So who does he throw in there for the next 6 months. Tsunoda or Ricciardo.
Remember Alex Albon on the much shittier RB its not even the best car that time yet he can overtake get back to place where it belong on race day meanwhile Perez is always stuck cant get much better out of the car is just so sad....................
Albon did a great hour long interview and he talks about what he did wrong. He just did not have enough knowledge at the time. The year out as the simlator driver at RedBull sorted thast largely. I think he'd do real well in the Red Bull now.
@@desshinnick9365 dude got thrown to RB half year into his F1 rookie year did well better than experienced Gasly, but the RB16 2020 car posed so much challenged for him even Max having a hard time when it will always snaps at you in corner with its rear and the RB16B the 2021 car got fixed that issue thanks to his insight and close relationship with the engineers. I remember Monaco 21 when they praised him for doing the simulator to get the car right...
I saw this video early in the morning but was too sleepy to gather my thoughts. Here are my two cents on RB's situation: Yuki Tsunoda If Yuki becomes Max's teammate, I can guarantee he won't perform well. Despite his improvements over the past two years, Yuki doesn't seem to have the drive to give Max a full-on battle. Even if he's managed his temper issues, I can see him lacking the confidence he has with the Racing-Bulls-CashApp-Visa-Mastercard-Chase-Bank-Zelle-Venmo team. Liam Lawson If Liam Lawson joins RB, I have a strong feeling we'll see a situation similar to Vettel vs. Webber or even Nico vs. Hamilton. The question is, does Red Bull really want to deal with that again after experiencing it once already? I think Liam should stay with Racing Bulls, replace Daniel, and hone his skills there while he finds a top team that will take him, other than RB. Sergio Perez As for Sergio Perez, I don't know. I think RB has run out of excuses. Recently, Juan Pablo Montoya mentioned watching the inside of the cockpits and seeing differences between both cars. I don't care how many years you've been watching F1 or what you've witnessed; I trust the word of someone who has driven an F1 car more than anyone else. Also, considering that Montoya didn't have a highly competitive car back then, he knows a thing or two about the difference between a decent car and a good car. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
I really don't understand why people keep saying Perez is just getting unlucky, you can make that argument when it's just one or two races but at this point he is consistently under performing every race and has been for at least a season. If anything he is getting lucky when he actually gets into Q1
At this point i think perez should retire from the sport all by himself and not get ashamed of being kicked out and all the hate he is gonna recive, after considering next 2-3 races and looking if he can improve or not, if not then just retire respectfully. He will be appreciated for that massive help for max in 2021 abu dhabi. And his defending, being king of streets
There only safe choice right now is to swap Checo and Daniel, leave Lawson until 2025 no matter how this plays out Lawson will have a sit, there is enough data to suggest Daniel’s driving style will actually suit Red Bull and he will go very well, putting in a rookie against Max very bad idea if I was Lawson and wanted a long f1 career I would not get in that red bull against Max, Lawson is not an Oscar Pastri, Lawson needs at least one year in VCarb. And Yuki will not be able to deal with the pressure. Just swap Checo and Daniel and tell Daniel you have 3 races or we swap back
Yes... Much as I like Checo and indeed rate him as a driver, this run of terrible form cannot continue without the team being forced to replace him. The trouble is I strongly suspect his extremely poor showing (and previous incumbents) has a good deal more to do with RB being a very dysfunctional team than any lack of ability on his part - that being the case who would you put in his seat?* *Daniel would be a 'shoe-in' if his form of the last few years didn't raise serious questions. *Yuki strikes me as a poor choice for a seat where even the most stable of drivers struggles. *Liam Lawson... do RB throw yet another potential talent to the wolves? (Joss Verstappen!). *Hulk..? Would he take the seat? Would Joss put up with a driver who might cope in the team? *Ocon..?? Oh, please let it be so! That would be a complete disaster, but a glorious one to watch! I'm sure Horner would love for Daniel to be doing better, or at the least for Perez's form to pick up just a bit.
In the cost cap era, does RB really need that Checo money? They will lose prize money that's used for the car because of his incompetence. On top of that, Newey will be gone, and if Max isn't satisfied with the car, he is gonna leave too. I'd like to see that door slammed in the face of Horner as he so proudly said that he is the most important person in RB...
Even last season Perez was closer in points to last place, than to Max in first. Him being secind looked good, but was actually pretty abysmal if looked at more closely.
Sergio Perez is a brilliant driver. The issue is Red Bull, and its broken driver program. They destroyed Albon and Gasly, and they're doing really well elsewhere. No one inside Red Bull Gmbh seems to notice that those issues had roots on figures like Marko openly stating that Checo isn't as good as other European drivers because he's Latin American, and they have a 'different mindset'. Adding pressure on human beings usually doesn't work.
Yeah, there is something missing with Checo and his car. I totally agree with Gasly's comments. He's looking like Ricciardo with every car after his Red Bull days.
My feeling is even though Checo is struggling they will stick with him until the end of the season. Ricciardo is more likely to be dropped and replaced by Lawson but probably not until 2025. I've been impressed with Yuki over the last couple of years but I honestly think Lawson has more talent than Red Bull are yet to realise. I see him as Checo's future replacement.
New to the channel. I must say it's a shame I have not found it before. Very informativ and you are clearly very knowledgeable and entertaining. :) F1 greetings from Norway.
yall watch the race? He wasnt getting into the points (more than likely), and as he was starting to pass people, he got put into the Inters as a test for Max. Same with the hard tire, he started with it when everyone else was on Mediums precisely to get data for Max later on in the race. Not saying Checo would have done anything, he is doing horrible at the moment. But at least have some knowledge before you say dumbass things lol
Well, I'll repeat what I said in the past: something is seriously wrong within this team. All of Red Bull's "second" drivers seem to suddenly lose all of their talent the second they get behind the wheel of Red Bull F1 car. This has happened too many times and with too many drivers to put all the blame for their poor performance solely on those drivers.
I totally agree..... Mysteriously after he got 2 wins and Verstapeen 2 wins out of 4 at the beginning of the 23 season.... Checo's car mysteriously started to underperformed....even Pablo Montoya is saying it.
@user-yz6bc3fq5l I would wager its more destruction of self confidence than foul play. We see it all the time in F1. I'm sure there have been several instances of trickery within teams, but RB cutting off one foot while trying to maintain a constructor's championship sounds a bit unbelievable. Especially when the target driver has never been a real threat to Max, regardless of picking up a couple wins over the span of 2021/2023. Miami 2023, Checo loses out from pole to a 9th place start from Max, who runs off into the destance the second the place is secured. Being gapped like a school girl from so far back would destroy any man's confidence. And why keep him on another season if youre going to have to handicap a car you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to develop? Only to be struggling against mercedes and mclaren bc one driver is absent?
You could say the same about Williams. I think it's the second driver syndrome. Realistically, you're there to race. If you can't actually race and compete with the driver on your team what's the point. If the team principal favors one driver over the other that plays with the mind. You can easily see that with Logan. I think Checo is an outstanding driver and has been an awesome wingman to Max. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. It's amazing to see how fast people have turned against him.
Put Ricciardo in the red bull seat at summer break. Put Lawson with Tsunoda in the RB. The best of Lawson and Tsunoda goes to red bull next year. Ricciardo only keeps the red bull seat if he is somewhere close to verstappen but will almost certainly retire.
keeping perez at this point is stupid for red bull, I honestly would have expected perez to retire end of this year (especially since he was struggling last season already) instead of signing another contract but here we are. I think they have nothing to loose in swapping in ricciardo right now. As far as we know from experience both Ricciardo and Verstappen can work in the same car, Lawson can take the Vcarb seat. And if ricciardo sucks just as much as perez rn, they can just promote someone else next year or even get someone from outside again. And then Ricciardo and Perez both are gone next year and we get 2 seats open for a set of young drivers. And if ricciardo is still good we still have 1 seat open (which Lawson will take obv.) and ricciardo can do 1 or 2 years or so and retire in Red Bull like he said he wanted to.
Imagine if some sort of luck with the heavens aligning, Mark Webber pulling strings, Zac Brown taking Checo plus cash and Piastri given a RedBull drive. What a shocker that would be!!!
Red Bull could have signed Alonso but now that ship has sailed. This creates an opening for Sainz, especially since Max to Mercedes is a bigger risk now that Merc is back on form, so Red Bull will need a competitive driver in their lineup in the event Max leaves (As for pushing out Max, while Sainz is good, I do not think that he will cause Max enough trouble to prevent him from getting the championship, he is good enough to take pick up the pieces if something happens to Max and perhaps beat him on occasions). Riccardo's form will make him Perez 2.0, Lawson is not a proven driver yet. If they were to bet on one of their own drivers, they should put Yuki in the Red Bull.
They should kick out Perez mid-season, stick Ricciardo in that car for half a year to see how he does, give Liam Ricciardo’s seat and if Ricciardo doesn’t perform give the seat to Liam. I know Tsunoda is performing better than Ricciardo this season but I don’t think Red Bull are taking him as a serious contender for that seat. Just my opinion.
Throw lawson in the deep end and watch him swim... if he's behind max for the season atleast he'll be top 6 consistently...but don't forget he knocked max out of q2 singapore and did awesome at zandvoort... in his short stint out score yuki... liams the future for redbull
Yeah he is staying as long as his and Horner ego can stay positive. Horner will put pressure on his engineers and pit crew over Checho. Our logic is lost on them.
Do red bull want a driver who will sacrifice his career for a big pay off to keep them lower on the constructors championship to get more time in the wind tunnel or something. Just a thought.
"Nico has scored more points than Perez and Charles Leclerc." Well, that mean Leclerc must go. But wait, Ferrari is keeping Charles and getting rid of Sainz who seems to be doing a pretty good job. Go figure. Red Bull needs to chase off Helmut Marko and Jos Verstappen. Maybe things could settle down then.
Checos form has been terrible no arguing about it but there are so many things that people ignore, Why does a championship win team is not able to deliver a car that both drivers can drive ? It’s been almost a decade since redbull has 2 competitive drivers, you don’t see this in any other team in the grid, that is something that people tend to ignore.
Red Bull makes cars. And world champions like Max Verstappen and Sebastian Vettel drive them. It isn't RBR fault their second drivers aren't as good. "Hey, make the car slower so Alex Albon can't get screwed with the sharpness of it"
"2023 Sergio wasn't all that bad..." Did you even watch the Mexico race? He's been in a Maldonado worthy death spiral ever since. And, like Pastor, Sergio's form has _always_ been highly erratic.
Is there a possibility that the Checo deal actually was done to give Red Bull the opportunity to remove Checo before the end of the season. It would give Checo the chance to keep his seat, but also gives RBR to remove him. I doubt his previous contract allowed RBR to remove him before the end of the season.
f1 teams make fast cars but RB makes cars tailored to verstappens driving style (a winning formula). RB its conceived, structured and engineered to be a one driver team, their second drivers task is pure strategy and data for analytics
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You can just keep the 30+ million in Mexican sponsorship. And all the Merch Sales. By just placing Pato O'Ward.
I guess Red Bull has become allergic to money? 😅 Because as a Business decision Pato makes most sense by far.
@@Ronny999xdoes Pato have his Super License?
Fun fact. Sargeant has NEVER been ahead of Albon in qualifying, but he has already finished 7 times ahead of Checo.
Thanks mate haven't heard that one before..... 😂 Its a known fact
i swear all f1 fans regurgitate the same fact but write it as if they’re the ones that discovered it
That's a depressing statistic 😢
@mitchell974 Welcome to F1 social media. They all watch Matt and Tommy on the P1 podcast and all of a sudden, they are an expert on F1.
Please name the seven races where this happened.
We've seen red bull kick drivers out for way less mid season
I saw your original comment 😉
For way less in way worse cars too
Yeah but they don't sell hats the way checo does. Not lying. That's why they're even entertaining the idea of keeping checo. He's commercially successful in latin America
@@indigo8210 itl be between us 👊
But those other drivers did not bring $90M of a rich uncles money to pay for Max.
the running joke used to be that Stroll's race performance would determine whether or not the bottom teams would get points, now it's become Perez.
Stroll has really been doing great lately
Either or both of the Williams crashing seems to be something to consider for that too.
@@pobi-wankenobicayes, we know.
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No he hasnt , last 5 races are 2 7ths, 13th and 2 14ths. What are you talking about , last year he was much better than this crap🤣@pobi-wankenobica
Putting Lawson next to the Verstappen will ruin his confidence within 5 races, Gasly and Albon had more experience at the time and they got destroyed by a maturing Verstappen in 2019-20, only one who should get Perez's seat is Tsunoda imo.
Depends mostly on what mindset he starts with, nobody is like max. Lawson just need to preform better than Perez that is the only issue.
what about a buyout for Albon?
@@christophermiller769 he's happy as a #1 at Williams I think he'd shut the door on a RedBull return.
Tsunoda will/would also get destroyed by Max, let‘s be honest here.
Have you watched his documentary? He has a way different mindset than albon or gasly. I think the worst that will happen is 5 races in they will would swap him and Daniel Riccardo or Yuki. But I honestly believe he will do well, he has been runner up in almost every series he has races in.
Checo has 0 wins this season and hasn’t looked close to one either. Compared to 6 other drivers winning and Piastri being close multiple times this season. Checo is one of my favorite drivers, but he can’t expect to keep that seat after all this. He needs to be looking out for some midfield teams, because he’s great in the midfield, not in a top team.
Only Charles Leclerc has had a similarly turgid stint in F1 lately.
@@LawVS Leclerc won Monaco
@@FreeloaderUKhe’s overrated
Lucky != Good @@FreeloaderUK
@@LawVS Yeah, but he's been getting quite crapped on by Ferrari
They really need to reevaluate Bird, and see if a better option is available for an engineer then maybe consider if checo is the right fit. Bird is Red Bull’s Xavi, and some of his calls are just bonkers.
Bird has been terrible. He’s clueless.
I think they will get rid of Bird after Perez is gone @@aguerra8907
bird is their last protective wall to justify perez paddy-wack undrivable performance for 3 seasons in a row, if Perez should choose to finally find his tongue (unlikely and probably useless at this point in time) then bird will get most of the hit and thrown down the bus to clean RB of any direct wrong doing or intention...
Funny how absolutely every single youtuber-influencer and media influencers like brundle sky fox and DAZN all fail to even consider its the car, yet when it comes to LH or ALO or LEC its the car not the driver..., funny how all of them also fail to point out that maybe Submissive Perez is STILL there because he has kept his mouth shut about everything, and should he disclose everything then is more than likely it'll be the end of RB for a time in F1 and a major hit in their overall sports branch
As much as I'd love to see Lawson in the RB20 I'd imagine RBR wants him to at least do a full season before getting that call up. Yes he's proved that he's more than capable of being quick in an F1 car but he needs more seat time and that's probably best given in the Junior team. I am Australian and have some inherent favour towards Daniel, but honestly put him in for the rest of the year and get Lawson in the RB, if Danny flounders get rid of him for next year that's his time in the sport over And Lawson will at least have had more time and could go to RBR for next year. I'd like to see Yuki get the seat but he's more than likely going to Aston with Honda.
Spot on above, and I cannot see RBR thinking much differently. Daniel is poor in a poor car, we know that... but for some reason in the Red Bull he's just fast. Well, let it be and let's get that WCC. Re-evaulate end of the year for next years seating.
Fellow Aussie here
And would have to agree, but I would t mind seeing Lawson or Yuki go in
Either way Perez needs to go
Move Daniel into Perez's seat and Lawson into Daniel's seat. If Daniel doesn't perform for the rest of the year, let him go. At that point, Lawson may have enough experience and confidence to move him in to the seat beside Max, which allows for another junior seat available at Vcarb.
Too soon after half a year. And think of Liam's mindset. Doing great at VCARB and hism getting destroyed by Max in RBR.
If Daniel gets sacked mid season after his second season they should get sebastian Vettel back in the number 2 RB WHOS WITH ME
Or, let Daniel run the Jr team and give Yuki his proper chance
I don't think Daniel would be interested in running a team. He already has a wine company and loves the U.S. He might go to Indy car for a few years or even WEC.
I just hope that if they replace Checo they don't put Lawson in that seat. Putting a rookie in there in such a high pressure position probably doesn't end well. Ideally Tsunoda gets the promotion but even Ricciardo is an improvement over Checo.
From my perspective the correct option is to put Riccardo in the seat (it’s why they hired him) if he performs, he keeps the seat. But if he doesn’t get the results they can promote either Tsunoda or Lawson next season and get a new driver into VCARB.
This is it. Has to be Ricciardo. Red Bull will ruin Lawson if they do so. Ricciardo for the rest of this season and then next year Yuki or Lawson.
Riccardo is washed! it will not work. let that man retire already
I wouldn't put Yuki in the senior team. He hasn't shown anything special in the time he has been in F1 and his entitled brat attitude and outbursts are unbearable. He won't be a good fit in the senior team as #2 driver.
@lamsmiley1944 i like this idea a lot
The point regarding Checo's sponsors is not that meainingful if they lose the championship. Apart from the championship money they will lose, many sponsors pay premium to be featured on champion team, so the monetary loss from getting second in the constructurs's is not just the prize money.
I don't think sponsors care too much about the WCC. They want to be in the Max Verstappen car.
Yeah, because he is the world champion@@MatheusC1729
@@MatheusC1729 Yeah, and Max's the most probable driver champion, so they'll still be sponsoring the best in the world
@@augustofranklim5409 Clueless. Why would Mexican companies want to sponsor a Dutch driver.
Seeing How Hadjar has handled himself this year, I don't expect him in an F1 car full time for at least 5 years
isn't he leading?
@CozyRodent
He is an Arab Muslim, so naturally he has haters
Re-signing Checo - Probably the daftest decision Christian Horner has ever made
He did it to give Checo a boost...all it did was make Horner's integrity look sketchy.
I'd argue sending those text messages was his daftest decision but this is a close second
@@LawVSintegrity? How so?
@@BobbyGeneric145after file 76 I don't think the man has too much integrity
@@BDSFormula1 that has nothing to do with what Laws said.
Perez fate is in Danny's hands, I see three permutations.
1. Perez does well - Perez keeps his seat.
2. Perez does badly while Danny does well - Danny replaces him.
3. Perez and Danny does badly while Yuki does really well -Perez keeps his seat.
I think the best outcome is to just put Danny into the RB (regardless of performance) for the rest of the season. If he does well he keeps the seat, if not they can see how Lawson and Tsunoda compare over a longer period. It also gives them the opportunity to get more new talent in (assuming Daniel doesn’t perform).
I don't understand 3. If Perez and Danny do badly then surely Lawson and or Tsunoda take the RBR seat and they leave Daniel or Perez in the RB until years end?
@@arifromoz2 Tsunoda will never get promoted to RBR and Lawson hasn't even had a full-time F1 seat yet. The pressure of being thrown right into RBR next to Max would eat him up. I think if they're gonna drop Perez from RBR, it will be Danny replacing him until the end of the season, and if he does poorly, they will look for drivers outside of RB. Sainz would probably be an option. Or Hulkenberg
@@arifromoz2 I don't understand 3 either to be fair but its just what everyone seems to be rolling with, there is nothing Yuki can do to get the redbull seat, but if the results were reversed this season, Danny would have already been in and with a 2025 redbull contract.
I can’t understand how anyone thinks putting a rookie Lawson (who’s junior career wasn’t that good by f1 standards) straight into a red bull Mid season against one of the best f1 drivers ever is a good idea
on point,they are going to keep perez, he doesnt makes any problems,and when the car is more neutral and not so much the way max likes it ,he is in the mix,he helped max win both championships, he made more than albon gasly and kvyat all toguether ,putting lawson next to max is shotting him in the foot
I thought the rumour was Lawson to VCARB and Riccardo back to RB?
Lawson has more potential than all the other options. He's known for his ability to adapt to cars quickly - last year was a good example. However the question remains if he can tap into that talent to be great.
@@ferretnuclear he is really good,but putting him next to max is ending his career ,he needs a few years in AT first
It would be entertaining
It’s most crazy to me that Red Bull keeps “stringing” Checo on by constantly remarking he needs to improve to retain his seat. The threats have gone on for about a year now. To me it seems that they’ll have to either actually drop Checo soon, or stop giving us constant reminders he needs to improve, because the believability is wearing out fast from Red Bull
the only one bitching around is marko ,and we already know ,nobody gives a shiet about his words
they gave him the contract to take pressure off hoping he would improve. instead he got worse
Sadly I thought Checo was turning it around during the free practice sessions in silverstone being there with the time leaders. However, the spin in qualifying into the gravel ruined his weekend, which was further compounded by the switch to the inters.
Listening in on the race, this was the first time I didn't hear horner on checo's radio at the end of the race. To me was the biggest sign that RB will be getting rid of checo. Could you imagine they drop him, try daniel, say he ain't it, and sign Carlos to RB for next year?
Christian had nothing positive to say about Checo in Silverstone. That's a red flag.
Carlos ain't neither afaik.
That is what they should have done in the first place ( signing Carlos ) instead of resigning Checo. Maybe Checo brings in more financialy than we can see. The difference between being the team champion or being third ( after McLaren and Mercedes ( sorry Ferrari but you have the Leclerc curse )) maybe compensated by the pesos Checo brings in. Then the main sponsors will offer less money to be on the car, because it is not the champ car anymore. Think, think and think again. I don't even think putting Liam in that car is a good option. It will ruin his mind getting destroyed by Max. Put Yuki in and give the bloke a few years, before sacking him as well.
@@patricktrakzel9657”maybe Checo brings in more financially than we see”? Perez boasts sponsorship deals with the likes of Disney, Telcel, Mobil, Claro, Nescafé and KitKat. Those are big money sponsors……that is the reason they resigned him, to help pay Max’s salary. Carlos doesn’t brings any money and has lost sponsors.
Here's something to consider:
Remember Checo was looking to win a championship. When that was the case, he was pushing hard and making wins.
As soon as he accepted that in the team, he will always be the "Red Bottas", his performance dropped... a LOT.
This. Not the only factor for sure, but losing out in Miami last year seems to have been a major turning point
But unlike Bottas he isn’t better than Max at anything, Valtteri at least has some wild one lap pace and could out qualify Lewis more if Toto didn’t threaten to murder him and his family every time he did
@@stevenedwardyoung To be fair, what happened in Miami should've never happened. Max starting in P9 and without even a single yellow or red flag, green flag racing from start to finish. Checo should've won that race but couldn't. I think his confidence broke there.
@@VMBOSonic exactly. Something kinda broke then. It happens to so many drivers at some point and is really hard to recover from.
As soon as Max took his manhood going from 9th to 1st, Sergio was broken.
As a Liam fan I would love to see Yuki in that Red Bull seat because he earned it. I think Liam has enough experience in different series to handle the pressure. Even Daniel in the Rd Bull would be interesting. So long as Liam gets a drive in either seat I am happy.
As a Red Bull fan and someone who believed that Checo was a great running mate for Max early on w the new car. It seems that his feel for the car has slipped over the last two years. I’m am surprised that he has not been given the boot. MV must be super comfortable w Checo as the second driver.
Max does not care who his team mate is, as long as it is not Ocon.
Checo fan here in the bad times ❤ I'm glad to see other drivers do well instead of checo always being P2 like we thought in the beginning. Happy for Logan! P11 smells like points in upcoming sprints! My American-Mexican blood roots for them both! 🇲🇽🇺🇸🍾🙏🏻
I was so happy for Logan! I really don’t understand the hate for checo. He’s been an awesome wingman for max and deserves better. I hope things turn around for both Checo and Logan.
Norris has the car that CAN eat into Max lead but Lando just can’t
No because max prefers to crash than let someone past
@@TheYorkshireGeordie listen I’m no Max fan but the man is Levels beyond a driver like Lando if anything Lando is probably on the level of Sainz than a Max/Leclerc
@@TheYorkshireGeordie You're the type that kept his mouth shut during the merc domination era aren't ya? Wouldnt want actual racing now do we?
I think piastri has the potential to be better, less emotional baggage 🤔💥
@@user-ni7qv1nd8oIf I want actual racing I'll go to Indy where the cars can hold up to it better. F1 cars are still way too sensitive for entertaining racing that lasts longer than a lap or two unfortunately
Checo started off the season strong. But after race 5 or was it 6, he's had such a significant performance drop its insane. Did a significant upgrade come around that checo just cannot adapt to or? I just find it hard to believe a driver could just suddenly fall off mid season
Happened last year as well. Must be the upgrades.
@@patricktrakzel9657happens every year. Must be the driver. 😂
We love Checo. Sometimes, it's okay to take a break and just enjoy being dad. Take a break and come back to a midfield team without the shadow of Red Bull.
I think that if he decides to stop a return would be very unlikely! Which is ok!!
Why don't people remember/recall Marko talking down Yuki because he was 'forced' on Red Bull/Torro Rosso by Honda. Has he matured as a driver? Yes. Who has helped him do that? Riccardo. It wasnt his best mate Gasly. Yuki still doesn't have the mind set/mentality to step up to the top team. and still doesnt know how to provide meaningfull feedback to the engineers and factory (admits that DR3 is teaching him in all facets).
Can L Lawson do it? Maybe? Maybe not? - best thing for Lawson would be the rest of this season in VCARB next to Yuki. Again, not much if any proven record of how to provide meaningfull feedback to the engineers and factory.
DR3 replaces Checo after the summer break (going of last years tire test at silverstone - Dan and Max like the same set up/style of car), It might get them the constructors having DR3 up there on the podiums and gives them the chance to keep L Lawson and assess him and Yuki for the step up to the top team
Let’s not forget Ricciardo still has more red bull wins. And was never in the fastest car.
Checo has been for 4 years now…
For me Yuki doesn't deserve that seat at the senior team. He hasn't shown anything special to be promoted to the senior team and more than that his entitled brat attitude is unbearable. If he behaves the way he does at the junior team, how much worse will it be at the senior team where he will be #2 driver?
The only real answer to Redbull's problems is a Sainz signing to replace Perez and a Lawson signing to replace Riccardo. But the bull's got no balls.
"Bull's got no balls" 😂😂😂😂 great line
The problem is that the car is so sharp at the front end only a top driver, a Leclerc or a Russell can drive it. Good luck getting one of them to partner Max at "his" team.
Odd you say that since that's exactly the type of car Ricciardo needs to thrive.
@@fadedexile exactly. That’s why I am really hoping to see Ricciardo back in that seat.
I like that these videos don’t just bash the driver because that’s the popular thing to do, and actually take the time to look at all sides to the story. It’s rather refreshing to see
Whoever RBR put in that seat, will need to be able to handle a max-like setup. As the season progresses and the car is further optimized to max, it gets further away from how checo likes it.
The rest is having a mindset capable of not comparing yourself to a driver like max in peak form, and being able to develop. Oscar is doing that part well, so far
Dude Antonelli has been destroying Ollie in the championship in his first championship. What else could he do if Prema just wasnt there this part of the season
Exactly. Prema have not handled the new F2 car well
I still think that Danny Ric should get the seat because of how that car suits his driving style so well. Maybe redbull should do a mid season swap with checo and Riccardo to see how he performs in comparison?
My suggestion is Switch Daniel and Checo for rest of this season and see what are the results.. maybe Daniel will be as good as in his old days and if he doesn't perform hire Yuki for the next season onwards.. and Daniel and extract more performance out of the car on his days like Brasil and Mexico like season and China in this season
Yep, I think this is the right option
Yup... this is the most logical outcome. Placing Tsunoda is a risk of a blow up with he and Max, and the team cannot afford that with a WCC on the line. Placing Lawson is just too early. let him run till the end of the year in the mid-field and if he's on fire, then promote him if Daniel is ordinary.
Lewis finding his form and draggin George along? Ummmm George has been dragging Lewis along if anything this season 😂
Hot take but I genuinely think that Danny ric will perform better in that red bull than he will in the RB.
You think, DR on a 5 year slump, who can't drive these new gen cars, who McLaren paid $18 million to please never drive a McLaren again, who Team Principal after Team Principal has thought if I can get this guy in my car he will perform and hasn't, that DR will suddenly perform in another team and in another car. I think we have more chance waiting to 2026 to see if he likes the next gen cars because he doesn't like these one.
@@desshinnick9365 5 year slump? He won in a McLaren and had a great time at Renault to the point they were upset he left.
@@desshinnick9365yes I do think DR will do better, he literally likes the same set up as Max, the Renault and McLaren cars were not suited to his driving style. The RedBull is a far better car for Danny. And you can say he’s had a 5 year slump but even in cars he wasn’t compatible with he still managed to win races.
@@alwayswondering127 I think you are talking about the DR of 2018. The DR that can't drive these new fangled cars introduced in 2022. But hey, throw him in there and watch him sink. He can't even beat Tsunoda. Even Lawson jumping into the car cold was out performing him. He was meant to come in and run rings around Tsunoda. It turned out to be the other way around.
I think it's clear he just doesn't get this new generation car. How long are we all going to wait for a car to be right for him. Come on, if he's good, he'll perform.
Let's park the excuses and acknowledge the results with his years of experience.
As a new f1 fan who’s been binging the history and all the background, it’s redbull’s car. Max is having similar troubles with the car as Checo, he’s just on a different level so he can fight them better. Checo is an experienced driver, he drives well, both drivers are fighting a car that’s fighting them back. It doesn’t help that the other teams are stepping up their development game. It makes the entire thing look worse because the redbull car no longer has the performance gap to keep them out of having to fight for podiums (max) and points (checo). I hope even if he loses the redbull contract, he gets picked up on a smaller team. He still has some spark left in him, he just needs a team that cares and a car that works.
Consider the fact that Sergio Perez was Hülkenberg's teammate at Force India for a few years and performed at a similar level.
Now, Hülkenberg got more points in the last two races than Perez in the last six. The 2nd driver at Red Bull was so consistently behind Max now, except briefly in 2022 after a regulation revolution, to the point that it's obvious that Red Bull hand-tailors their cars to Max's needs and wants to the point that the 2nd driver gets left behind unless they have the exact same driving style or can somehow adapt to it. A driver's performance outside of that Red Bull is no indicator for their performance in that seat anymore. For all we know, Lance Stroll or Logan Seargant could perform at Max's level in that car.
aint no way RB has a 100 point difference clause in Sergio's contract. Last year Max had 575 points vs Perez's 285. That would be a garantee basically.
I think he said 100 point and x places in the Drivers standings behind Max. Perez is P5 and heading to P8 in the drivers. It looks like the P factor that triggers the problem.
I don't know why anyone thinks Tsunoda will get that seat, it is between Lawson and Ricciardo. Red Bull have never shown interest in Tsunoda and the last thing they want is drama between drivers, flashpoints, fighting and an overall more intense atmosphere to add to what they already have. I really hope Lawson doesn't get the Red Bull seat immediately, as he has very little experience and his confidence will just be shattered by Max, which could potentially make Lawson look incapable and diminish his image as a strong driver. That leaves Daniel, who I think will probably take the seat because he is the safe option, and the perfect driver to boost team morale, and potentially sort of steady the ship at Red Bull, hopefully being quicker than Perez and a strong number 2 driver, full of confidence. Daniel too brings in a lotttt of cash which Red Bull always love. That's just my take on the situation and I think is the best option for Red Bull when looking from the outside in.
Ricciardo...LMAO
Yup. Yuki is a forced option cos he's Japanese guy and Honda supplies engines. He hasn't shown anything special in the time he has been in f1 and his attitude is unbearable. Theres no reason to put an entitled brat into the senior team. DR is the safest option. DR to the senior team and Lawson to replace him at VCarb. Let Lawson develop and then put him in fhe senior team.
@@alonsocordero5964not sure why you’re laughing, Ricciardo likes the same set up as Max and performed well in RedBull when they had cars that couldn’t perform anywhere near as well as the RB20. There’s no way Tsunoda gets the seat, and Lawson needs more practice. It only makes sense to Put Danny in for the rest of the season and if he does well then great, if not then he’s out too.
@@alwayswondering127 Ricciardo is about to be replaced by Lawson, he has been consistently outperformed by Yuki since he came back...that's why I am laughing my ass off. The bias is hillarious with you people, Checo will stay for the rest of the season, I'll be back here in early September to remind yall
How about discussing Bird? I understand Checo's flaws, failures and inconsistency, but let's also recognize the multiple occasions when his garage lead has made calls that are highly questionable and with actual racing impact, either on strategy, car balance, tire choice and timing, etc.....is there a garage role on the proven decline of the second redbull driver (Danny, Pierre, Albon, Checo)?
Is Checo perhaps TRYING to force RB to break contract and thus pay him a bunch of money?
They should send Danny up to RB, put Liam in the Vcarb and if Daniel doesn’t work out, put Liam in for 2025
The biggest takeaway is that Liam Lawson's future as a driver is/should be worth exponential times more to RBR than Checo does right now OR in the future. He's young, he's quick and he may very well be a WDC contender down the road. There is virtually zero upside to keeping Checo with Lawson and Tsunoda waiting in the wings. They can't afford to lose Lawson given the state of their junior driver program. They need to end this BS and just make the damn call already. It's so glaringly obvious and as a Merc fan, I'm somehow embarrassed for RBR that they haven't already figured this out themselves.
This is old news apparently Liam did not do well in the test. Unfortunately.
If Checo gets the boot.
Checo x HAAS > Ocon x HAAS.
HAAS don’t make another mistake picking up Nikita’s successor…
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Honestly as a Checo fan at this point id rather see him in a Haas or Williams where he could prosper in a midfield environment, because that RedBull environment clearly doesn’t work for him. Also hope he’s doing well at a human level because all this pressure and criticism could be getting in his head.
I’d like to see him at Sauber along Nico starting the Audi project, sadly, I don’t think it will happen, they got their vet in Nico.
As a fellow Checo fan, agreed.
Yuki should be promoted. He's on the same level as Oscar is given the proper car. He can be moulded into a 2nd driver with time..he's young and talented. Deserves.
I like to think RB wanted to keep him on as he is not going to challenge Max during the race weekends. Meaning all Max has to do is stay clean and battle Lando and Russell. But now that the other cars have caught up to RB, they need a 2nd driver to help Max win. One thing people don't realize either is because Checo is driving so poor they can't use a lot of his data to help push the car forward with upgrades. He crashes a lot. He's in dirty air a lot. So comparing data from Max and Checo after a weekend is going to show wildly varying results. It could make upgrades slower or harder to make.
Perez has been so bad at qualifying recently, it is obscene that he is still a driver for a top team.
I can't anymore 🙈
He sells a lot of hats. It's that simple. Oh and he's not to different from lance stroll i.e. Carlos slim money. Same reason ricciardo is still in RB.
@@BaoNguyen-ib5jx yeah I agree though, it is unfortunate that this happens because it is a major cause of the young driver / f2 issue
If checo leaves I am cancelling my F1 subscription. Definitely a HUGE blow to F1
@@JohnnyBitcoin I don’t think he should leave but there is much better drivers at worse teams. I think Perez would fit better in a team like Williams, Saubur, or Alphatauri
promote yuki up.
fire danny and sergio.
hire two young talents for vcarb.
I would love for Yuki to get the chance. He could become the most successful Japanese F1 driver EVER.
Everyone including Yuki credits Daniel for improving the car and the team.
I am not sure that Red Bull have the 'young driver talent' tree in their front garden anymore. Not like they had when Seb, Daniel, Max or even Yuki came along. So I'm not entirely sure where they pluck two young talents from to stick in the VCARB team were they to pension off Sergio and Daniel. Certainly they aren't finding two young talents who can also drive sponsorship either.
They woudnt want 2 f1 rookies in the car at the same time. You need some experience for car analysis and the feedback off it
@@LawVS Indeed, just like Max has now become the most successful Dutchie ever, and Checo the most successful Mexican driver as well for that matter.
They might lose Mexico with the switch, but who knows how faithful to Red Bull the Japanese fans can become, they can be super devoted over there.
Give the Red Bull seat to Danny Ric for old times sake challenge!
The pressure for Max's teammates is a shame because let's be honest he and Hamilton are generational talents on the current grid. If a teammate can put up even OK placements for the car Max will probably carry the team to a solid constructors placement.
This could be a comeback for Daniel Ricciardo. From the hit team Visa-Cash App-RB, the same man who beat Max Verstappen in equal machinery then threw away his career.
Red Bull are in a Constructors Title Battle, and a big reason for that is because of the underperformance of Sergio relative to Max.
The irony is, replacing Sergio might not be the solution it appears to be. If anything it might expose the Red Bull car to greater scrutiny if the person sat next to Max is also unable to perform.
Might not be the solution but at this point, what’s it going to hurt?
@@milspecmike8440This sentiment is correct. Worst case scenario, nothing improves. That's a relatively good risk/reward ratio.
Max always has priority.
If someone else is not able to perform, itll be the same as now with checo not performing.
I commented on RBs post of this contract that I am curious what sort of Riccardo McLaren thing is going to happen, and yeah watching it kinda unfold now
Put Ricciardo in the RB next to Max. Put Lawson in the Vcarb. When Ricciardo retires/released, promote Yuki. Bring in new young driver to replace Yuki. Verstappen retires/leaves. Promote Lawson or sign big name. It's not rocket science.
I'm one of thise guys who thinks Daniel should retire, but it would be pretty awesome to see him back in the RB and he would perform better than Perez.
Perez was a good driver,but not anymore (since 2021) and what red bull needs now is get rid of sergio perez and daniel ricciardo,put carlos sainz in red bull and liam lawson in the rb
perez either go to a mid/backer team or just retire
Carlos Sainz Sr. is not that disagreeable as a man. Jos, yes. Do I think the Srs. would clash? No. Carlos needs to go to Red Bull.
I really think Sainz Sr. would knuckle under and not cause problems for his son.
@@AndrewGeierMelonsSr is a champion driver himself, I think he'll definitely be more agreeable than Jos and so will Max, he won't care who his teammate.The only one who might not want Carlos in red bull is Jos
I feel for the junior program. Hadjar seems like a good enough driver to get a seat. That little move in Monaco to avoid certain death was amazing. When he wins F2 this year he will be without a seat.
As a Finnish viewer I appreciate the Kovalainen mention. He doesn't get much attention and I really like him as an expert commentator in our F1 broadcasts.
I think Liam is gonna get that second seat
@@tristen12356789 i hope not, I dont want to see him in the same situation as albon or gasly. I'd much rather they let him develop in the sister team for a year or two
I reckon it'll lead to Daniel getting the RBR seat for a year, Liam goes in with Yuki and then Liam goes up to RBR allowing either Hadjar or Crawford in next.
@@umungus518 yeah true
@@LawVSCrawford? He's Aston Martin isn't he? I genuinely see Arvid Linblad getting into that Redbull seat within three years max if these shenanigans continue to unfold
while i wont mind that, it wont be fair for yuki, the more experience driver. throwing liam into that seat we will likely end up in a albon/gasly situation.
if it comes down to liam or danny ric, i'd go with liam.
They need to swap Danny Ric and Checo. Danny Ric drives best with a very oversteery car, and Checo drives best with an understeery car. The Red Bull is very oversteery and the VCARB is understeery. It just works out for both drivers. Either that or get Danny Ric in the car and bring in Liam Lawson to replace him at VCARB. Either way tho, Checo needs to go
I think for now that's a good idea.
Yeah, can't believe the great minds at Red Bull haven't cottoned onto this...
Last season Pérez won 2 of the first 4 races, it's really strange the way he suddenly forget how to drive a F1...
The commercial advantage Perez has over young Lawson is epic. Red Bull sell cans, not cars .. and as much as I’d love to see Liam in a seat I just don’t see this change. Max needs a wingman.. maybe Ric is the best after all.
Carlos needs to replace Sergio and Liam needs to replace Daniel.
Totally
Bingo.
Nuclear war
Yep Horner needs to undo his most recent two bad decisions.
If Carlos replaces Perez though, that's 2025 and Horner has a Pere3z head ache now. So who does he throw in there for the next 6 months. Tsunoda or Ricciardo.
Remember Alex Albon on the much shittier RB its not even the best car that time yet he can overtake get back to place where it belong on race day meanwhile Perez is always stuck cant get much better out of the car is just so sad....................
Albon did a great hour long interview and he talks about what he did wrong. He just did not have enough knowledge at the time. The year out as the simlator driver at RedBull sorted thast largely. I think he'd do real well in the Red Bull now.
@@desshinnick9365 dude got thrown to RB half year into his F1 rookie year did well better than experienced Gasly, but the RB16 2020 car posed so much challenged for him even Max having a hard time when it will always snaps at you in corner with its rear and the RB16B the 2021 car got fixed that issue thanks to his insight and close relationship with the engineers. I remember Monaco 21 when they praised him for doing the simulator to get the car right...
I saw this video early in the morning but was too sleepy to gather my thoughts. Here are my two cents on RB's situation:
Yuki Tsunoda
If Yuki becomes Max's teammate, I can guarantee he won't perform well. Despite his improvements over the past two years, Yuki doesn't seem to have the drive to give Max a full-on battle. Even if he's managed his temper issues, I can see him lacking the confidence he has with the Racing-Bulls-CashApp-Visa-Mastercard-Chase-Bank-Zelle-Venmo team.
Liam Lawson
If Liam Lawson joins RB, I have a strong feeling we'll see a situation similar to Vettel vs. Webber or even Nico vs. Hamilton. The question is, does Red Bull really want to deal with that again after experiencing it once already? I think Liam should stay with Racing Bulls, replace Daniel, and hone his skills there while he finds a top team that will take him, other than RB.
Sergio Perez
As for Sergio Perez, I don't know. I think RB has run out of excuses. Recently, Juan Pablo Montoya mentioned watching the inside of the cockpits and seeing differences between both cars. I don't care how many years you've been watching F1 or what you've witnessed; I trust the word of someone who has driven an F1 car more than anyone else. Also, considering that Montoya didn't have a highly competitive car back then, he knows a thing or two about the difference between a decent car and a good car.
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Are rb allowed to swap drivers? Dr3 to rb checo to vcarb just for the last 2 races just to test before the break
I really don't understand why people keep saying Perez is just getting unlucky, you can make that argument when it's just one or two races but at this point he is consistently under performing every race and has been for at least a season.
If anything he is getting lucky when he actually gets into Q1
At this point i think perez should retire from the sport all by himself and not get ashamed of being kicked out and all the hate he is gonna recive, after considering next 2-3 races and looking if he can improve or not, if not then just retire respectfully.
He will be appreciated for that massive help for max in 2021 abu dhabi. And his defending, being king of streets
There only safe choice right now is to swap Checo and Daniel, leave Lawson until 2025 no matter how this plays out Lawson will have a sit, there is enough data to suggest Daniel’s driving style will actually suit Red Bull and he will go very well, putting in a rookie against Max very bad idea if I was Lawson and wanted a long f1 career I would not get in that red bull against Max, Lawson is not an Oscar Pastri, Lawson needs at least one year in VCarb. And Yuki will not be able to deal with the pressure. Just swap Checo and Daniel and tell Daniel you have 3 races or we swap back
Yes...
Much as I like Checo and indeed rate him as a driver, this run of terrible form cannot continue without the team being forced to replace him.
The trouble is I strongly suspect his extremely poor showing (and previous incumbents) has a good deal more to do with RB being a very dysfunctional team than any lack of ability on his part - that being the case who would you put in his seat?*
*Daniel would be a 'shoe-in' if his form of the last few years didn't raise serious questions.
*Yuki strikes me as a poor choice for a seat where even the most stable of drivers struggles.
*Liam Lawson... do RB throw yet another potential talent to the wolves? (Joss Verstappen!).
*Hulk..? Would he take the seat? Would Joss put up with a driver who might cope in the team?
*Ocon..?? Oh, please let it be so! That would be a complete disaster, but a glorious one to watch!
I'm sure Horner would love for Daniel to be doing better, or at the least for Perez's form to pick up just a bit.
In the cost cap era, does RB really need that Checo money? They will lose prize money that's used for the car because of his incompetence. On top of that, Newey will be gone, and if Max isn't satisfied with the car, he is gonna leave too. I'd like to see that door slammed in the face of Horner as he so proudly said that he is the most important person in RB...
Guess he brings in more money than constructors money difference between 1 & 2
Even last season Perez was closer in points to last place, than to Max in first. Him being secind looked good, but was actually pretty abysmal if looked at more closely.
Small correction with Crawford, he parted ways with RedBull’s Junior Academy last year for Aston Martin’s Driver Academy
I saw a 10 foot tall print of liam lawson infront of a clothing store in aus. It said in bold letters "red bull reserve driver". I loled.
Sergio Perez is a brilliant driver. The issue is Red Bull, and its broken driver program. They destroyed Albon and Gasly, and they're doing really well elsewhere. No one inside Red Bull Gmbh seems to notice that those issues had roots on figures like Marko openly stating that Checo isn't as good as other European drivers because he's Latin American, and they have a 'different mindset'. Adding pressure on human beings usually doesn't work.
Yeah, there is something missing with Checo and his car. I totally agree with Gasly's comments. He's looking like Ricciardo with every car after his Red Bull days.
every car? he was great at renault
My feeling is even though Checo is struggling they will stick with him until the end of the season. Ricciardo is more likely to be dropped and replaced by Lawson but probably not until 2025. I've been impressed with Yuki over the last couple of years but I honestly think Lawson has more talent than Red Bull are yet to realise. I see him as Checo's future replacement.
New to the channel. I must say it's a shame I have not found it before. Very informativ and you are clearly very
knowledgeable and entertaining. :) F1 greetings from Norway.
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perez got lapped by his teamate in the same car that says all that needs to be said
Twice!
SMDH 😑🚮
perez for lapped by daniel at silverstone lol
yall watch the race? He wasnt getting into the points (more than likely), and as he was starting to pass people, he got put into the Inters as a test for Max. Same with the hard tire, he started with it when everyone else was on Mediums precisely to get data for Max later on in the race. Not saying Checo would have done anything, he is doing horrible at the moment. But at least have some knowledge before you say dumbass things lol
Well, I'll repeat what I said in the past: something is seriously wrong within this team. All of Red Bull's "second" drivers seem to suddenly lose all of their talent the second they get behind the wheel of Red Bull F1 car. This has happened too many times and with too many drivers to put all the blame for their poor performance solely on those drivers.
I totally agree.....
Mysteriously after he got 2 wins and Verstapeen 2 wins out of 4 at the beginning of the 23 season.... Checo's car mysteriously started to underperformed....even Pablo Montoya
is saying it.
Its the Verstappen curse
@user-yz6bc3fq5l I would wager its more destruction of self confidence than foul play. We see it all the time in F1. I'm sure there have been several instances of trickery within teams, but RB cutting off one foot while trying to maintain a constructor's championship sounds a bit unbelievable. Especially when the target driver has never been a real threat to Max, regardless of picking up a couple wins over the span of 2021/2023. Miami 2023, Checo loses out from pole to a 9th place start from Max, who runs off into the destance the second the place is secured. Being gapped like a school girl from so far back would destroy any man's confidence. And why keep him on another season if youre going to have to handicap a car you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to develop? Only to be struggling against mercedes and mclaren bc one driver is absent?
it’s all about the mental performance. it’s gases to accept the fact that you’ll never compete for a cup when all the team does is satisfy max
You could say the same about Williams. I think it's the second driver syndrome. Realistically, you're there to race. If you can't actually race and compete with the driver on your team what's the point. If the team principal favors one driver over the other that plays with the mind. You can easily see that with Logan. I think Checo is an outstanding driver and has been an awesome wingman to Max. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. It's amazing to see how fast people have turned against him.
Apparently, RBR has a clause in Perez’ contract that if he has fewer than half of Max’ points come the summer break, they can axe him.
Considering how ruthless RB have been with Max’s previous team mates I can’t help thinking he’s being given more time purely for financial reasons.
Put Ricciardo in the red bull seat at summer break.
Put Lawson with Tsunoda in the RB.
The best of Lawson and Tsunoda goes to red bull next year.
Ricciardo only keeps the red bull seat if he is somewhere close to verstappen but will almost certainly retire.
keeping perez at this point is stupid for red bull, I honestly would have expected perez to retire end of this year (especially since he was struggling last season already) instead of signing another contract but here we are.
I think they have nothing to loose in swapping in ricciardo right now. As far as we know from experience both Ricciardo and Verstappen can work in the same car, Lawson can take the Vcarb seat. And if ricciardo sucks just as much as perez rn, they can just promote someone else next year or even get someone from outside again. And then Ricciardo and Perez both are gone next year and we get 2 seats open for a set of young drivers. And if ricciardo is still good we still have 1 seat open (which Lawson will take obv.) and ricciardo can do 1 or 2 years or so and retire in Red Bull like he said he wanted to.
Imagine if some sort of luck with the heavens aligning, Mark Webber pulling strings, Zac Brown taking Checo plus cash and Piastri given a RedBull drive.
What a shocker that would be!!!
Jack Crawford isn't RB Junior anymore.
RB Junior in F2: Isack Hadjar, Pepe Marti; F3: Ollie Goethe, Tim Tramnitz, Arvid Lindblad; Super Formula: Ayumu Iwasa
Red Bull could have signed Alonso but now that ship has sailed. This creates an opening for Sainz, especially since Max to Mercedes is a bigger risk now that Merc is back on form, so Red Bull will need a competitive driver in their lineup in the event Max leaves (As for pushing out Max, while Sainz is good, I do not think that he will cause Max enough trouble to prevent him from getting the championship, he is good enough to take pick up the pieces if something happens to Max and perhaps beat him on occasions). Riccardo's form will make him Perez 2.0, Lawson is not a proven driver yet. If they were to bet on one of their own drivers, they should put Yuki in the Red Bull.
Ooooooh King Max and sainz spicy 🔥🙈🤔
@@magdelinem6962 Already happened and it was toxic as hell. Carlos Sainz Sr. and Jos Verstappen do not get along because of it.
@@kuromori6200 Who gets along with Jos Verstappen?
They should kick out Perez mid-season, stick Ricciardo in that car for half a year to see how he does, give Liam Ricciardo’s seat and if Ricciardo doesn’t perform give the seat to Liam. I know Tsunoda is performing better than Ricciardo this season but I don’t think Red Bull are taking him as a serious contender for that seat. Just my opinion.
Dumbest comment I've read all day.
@@BobbyGeneric145dumbest reply I’ve read all day
Not only being outscored by nico. The fact checo scored 15 points in 6 races versus nicos 16 out 5 is just insane😂
Throw lawson in the deep end and watch him swim... if he's behind max for the season atleast he'll be top 6 consistently...but don't forget he knocked max out of q2 singapore and did awesome at zandvoort... in his short stint out score yuki... liams the future for redbull
Singapore 🤔🤔🤔
Yeah he is staying as long as his and Horner ego can stay positive. Horner will put pressure on his engineers and pit crew over Checho. Our logic is lost on them.
It's all about the sponsors. Checo probably brings in the most sponsor money out of all the drivers it's that significant
Do red bull want a driver who will sacrifice his career for a big pay off to keep them lower on the constructors championship to get more time in the wind tunnel or something. Just a thought.
It's only 5% thought. Would losing $10m in prize money be worth it?
@@LawVS only thing I can think of at this moment in time other than come mid season break he is out the door.
"Nico has scored more points than Perez and Charles Leclerc." Well, that mean Leclerc must go. But wait, Ferrari is keeping Charles and getting rid of Sainz who seems to be doing a pretty good job. Go figure. Red Bull needs to chase off Helmut Marko and Jos Verstappen. Maybe things could settle down then.
RB is against the wall with negative impressions as a org not against its performance. They need to shakeup the leadership.
Checos form has been terrible no arguing about it but there are so many things that people ignore, Why does a championship win team is not able to deliver a car that both drivers can drive ? It’s been almost a decade since redbull has 2 competitive drivers, you don’t see this in any other team in the grid, that is something that people tend to ignore.
lance stroll would do better than checo in that rb
Red Bull makes cars. And world champions like Max Verstappen and Sebastian Vettel drive them.
It isn't RBR fault their second drivers aren't as good. "Hey, make the car slower so Alex Albon can't get screwed with the sharpness of it"
Hint : It's not the cat 😕
"2023 Sergio wasn't all that bad..."
Did you even watch the Mexico race?
He's been in a Maldonado worthy death spiral ever since. And, like Pastor, Sergio's form has _always_ been highly erratic.
Is there a possibility that the Checo deal actually was done to give Red Bull the opportunity to remove Checo before the end of the season. It would give Checo the chance to keep his seat, but also gives RBR to remove him. I doubt his previous contract allowed RBR to remove him before the end of the season.
f1 teams make fast cars but RB makes cars tailored to verstappens driving style (a winning formula). RB its conceived, structured and engineered to be a one driver team, their second drivers task is pure strategy and data for analytics