Battlespace 'The Romulan Earth War' Battle of Sol
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- sorry for the delay. Christmas happened, but its here now with crisp narration courtesy of my new microphone. In today's episode the Romulans make their bid for earth, enjoy.
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This entire war would have been one hell of a Enterprise season.
And probably would have saved the series too
It would have done a lot better than that temporal cold war nonsense :)
Yeah, it should have been like NG new life etc. But we know them all as fans an it's thus predictable.
So should have focused politically more earlier.. covered things we've never seen like a proper romulan early attempt at takeover.
An other races stronger than in the current season... But no it's the same old regurgitated scripts.
@@gusty9053 Absolutely! The temporal war thing really need its own multi-season arc to be done right.
Yup.
Enterprise needed more season to depict the Romulan war just like DS9 did with the Dominion war
Agreed big time
Four NX ships, a refitted NX-01, and Reed getting his own vessel with Mayweather as his first officer. They had a lot of plans if the show continued
I believe this was the original plan but the show was cancelled by season 5. It would’ve concluded similarly to how the dominion war did at the very end of season seven of DS9.
Season 3 ruined it.
New title star trek crisis and conflicts in the 22 century based on the Cuban missile crisis style
Enterprise should've had a fifth and six season dealing with the Romulans!
Yes! A whole war, DS9 style with "Admiral" Archer! Probably could have been the best star trek series of all had they done that!
Season 1 should of started 1 year b4 the Romulan War.
Agreed
Show was cancelled just as it was hitting its stride in Season 4. Apparently showcasing the Romulan War and a proper birth of the Federation was always the plan, along with having the Enterprise undergo a full NX-class refit which would have given it a secondary hull. Would have been great.
I think they were going to that (in a similar fashion like DS9's Dominion War) but sadly it was cancelled.🤬🤬🤬
Always struck me as odd most established races didn’t venture far from home. Vulcan, Andor, Tellar and Denobula all seemed concentrated on a single world. Humans by comparison grabbed and colonised any planet they stumbled upon. Perhaps that’s why they were seen as aggressive and dangerous. A new Klingon or Romulan Empire in the making.
Yes, there’s a big difference between travelling to other worlds (exploring) and settling on distant worlds (expanding and exploiting). Starfleet ships were therefore seen by some as scouts for waves of settlers.
I believe it is less to do with being aggressive and more to do with the fact that they had the other forces to deal with. Though the Denobulains and Vulcans were stated to be either slow or mostly uninterested in mass exploration. As for Tellar and Andor I think it was more the fact that they put a lot of their resources in their defense fleets and dealing with the other two of the three major races in the region.
All that and looking at our history e.g. European colonisation of the Americas, Africa etc....I'd be worried too! :D
@@TheRobsterUK Yes, the Europeans were of course the first and only colonists in earth history. There were no Genghis Khan, Cyrys the Persian or Tamerlane.
But yeah, on the topic, it is a bit weird, since you would think that after reaching certain point of development, a civilization would always either run out of raw materials in their own homeplanet or get pulled to international (or interspace :) ) trade. We can of course argue that perhaps they were advanced and wise enough to make it with their home systems resources.
@@TheRobsterUK witch they did while the ottoman empire was breathing down there necks.
I love the older stories where it's so few ships, where really a lose is true, compared to DS9 era where thousands of ships are involved.
its also easier to convey on screen.
Yes. The huge DS9 battles felt more like Star Wars than Star Trek.
Seeing Miranda class starships taken out by one or 2 shots from a Cardassian cruiser didn’t feel like Star Trek to me. It’s not like the Cardassian cruisers were Borg cubes. The Miranda class ship that Sisko served on during the Battle of Wolf 359 (in the DS9 pilot episode) lasted longer than that against a Borg cube.
@@timonsolus dude they lacked the budget to show shields
What season 5 of enterprise should have been.
Ikr
@@alanmike6883 You know guys, I never saw one episode of Enterprise. I know it's sad but it's true
@@dancastro6873 it's so easy,Women stay naked in the sun for 3 h0urs it w😋rkd ask Dan castro.
@@rafaelserrano8337 No Trekkies talk to me. They consider me an interloper
As Shran once remarked to Soval:
"Never push the pink skins to the thin ice."
'When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard' - Sun Tzu
You mean pushing a desperate enemy to the edge of destruction will only really piss him off to the point of doing insane things like going Kamikaze, since he nothing left to lose? I remember the Star Trek Lower Decks episode when they were attacked by mean Pakleds and Ensign Boimler suggested doing a Crazy Ivan attack move which was a game of chicken suicide run. The other bridge crew said he was nuts.
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 Because when pushed into a corner humans warlike instincts we unleash the beast. We fight harder. We stop playing nice and we make the enemy pay dearly for every inch of ground
Ask any Marine who fought in the South Pacific in WWII.
@@Shutterbug5269 Indeed it is. The Germans found out the hard way about how determined the Soviets were when they invaded in WW2. Stupid conquerors round up and execute the locals instead of being nice and recruiting the locals into your expanding Imperial military. Coopting the opposition to join your side replaces your war losses, to continue further conquests. Otherwise, you will be fighting everyone and anyone and that drags you down.
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 They also found out the hard way what the imitations of blitzkrieg were... especially in a Russian winter.
But back on topic: The Andorians, the Romulans, the Klingons and the Dominion all learned the hard way what happens when you push humans to the razor edge. Quark was right, we become as bloodthirsty as any klingon.
I get it, so the Romulan's 24th century flagship class was named after the admiral.
Watching this makes me wish Enterprise had continued.
I'm still pissed off at those writers. You do know the war happens before that stupid episode of "these are the Voyages"?
So much they can do pre Kirk.
Pike please!!! Q I heart you!!
I think something like this would have been far better than the xindi storyline in enterprise. I think its a shame something like this wasnt done.
Ratings for Enterprise was too low, this is why tbere are only 4 seasons
I liked the Xindi arch, although i though the time travel part was unessisary. I would have loved to have seen the romulan war ultimately uniting the federation and sending the romulans into hiding.
Read once that during the show's run someone brought up the Earth/Romulan War. One of the show leads said that he didn't want to do a "War" on the show because that was DS9's thing.
The Xindi arc was why I quit watching the show they wasted a whole season on it.
The xindi storyline was a huge mistake.
If Enterprise hadn't farted around for two seasons doing monster of the week episodes and then wasted another on the Xindi war, we could have gotten the Romulan war and some real birth of the Federation content.
The original idea for season one wouldn't even have left the Sol system. The original pitch for Enterprise was going to be The Right Stuff in Star Trek and so season one would have been about building the NX-01, gathering and training the crew and all the political stuff surrounding it
Hey now, the episodic nature of Enterprise's exploratory mission was well in-line with Star Trek tradition. The Xindi weren't /too/ bad, but I do believe the Temporal Cold War was pointless and idiotic. They could have made things a lot better by having the Xindi be hired agents acting on orders from the Romulans, instead of some random dude from the future.
@@toreadum8ass TOS and Ent weren't the same show. TOS was Wagon Train To The Stars, Ent really SHOULD have been about the birth of the Federation and the Romulan War. Ent SHOULD have had an overarching plot A La B5.
Ironically, it wasnt some random guy from the future but Archer himself from the future.
TOS wasnt made with the concept of a legacy in mind.
When I saw the Vertiron array on enterprise I thought to myself "if it can blow up asteroids cant it blow up starships?" The answer is ohhhh yeahhh it can.
too bad the romulans didn't watch that episode.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 They got distracted watching the 'decontamination scenes' in the historical records.
Thank goodness the planets were aligned perfectly to defend Earth.
Gotta keep there little brother safe
Excellent job once again. I know it's been over 15 years but I sure would like to see Enterprise return for at least a couple more seasons
Against either the Romulans or the Kzinti.
The Four Years War would be another fun one to see.
Romulans always got in the first shots because Star Fleet would never hit first, not even when their space was invaded. They, the Federation always had to take the first damage. That was the Romulan's biggest advantage. Also in the early years of conflict, the Romulans had better more advanced ships and greater numbers. They also had a time advantage, they were in space longer. The Federation caught up because they expanded through conversion of other cultures planets and systems. Others could join the Federation. That was not the case with the Romulans.
And Starfleet always has slow phasers they need fast more powerful phasers as fast as the romulan and klingons.
That's contradicted in season 1 of TNG, which is canon. This series, and everything after, is not canon.
The problem with all these scenarios is that they are too 2-dimensional. Why come in along the ecliptic? Why are their lines of spaceships? If they want to bombard earth come in from all directions with a simultaneous attack. Was Captain Kirk the only one who could think in 3-D?
The only reason to pass by planets would be to use their gravity in speed up travel at impulse speeds or do more atrocities for funsies (if you're evil, of course).
You know, it still amazes me that Sol was more heavily defended in the 22 century than it EVER was in the 24 century.
true but when you can only do warp 3 leaving home isn't as tempting a prospect.
On the contrary, during the Wolf 359 encounter Starfleet put together in a very short interval 50 ships to intercept the Cube, which was substantially faster than any Starfleet ships, suggesting that there were likely hundreds of capital ships near Sol.
@@suzumiyaharuhi3438 remember though, that almost all of those ships were not even remotely powerful ships. Many were century old research ships or light cruisers/frigates that were obliterated almost instantly. The ships in the 22nd century were far more armed and lasted quite a bit longer wit fewer available
@@ThePuppywolf Your logic is flawed, the 359 ships performed poorly because they were pitted against a Borg cube, which is massive and more advanced.
@@ThePuppywolf Mind you that prior to the Coliation of Planets Starfleet ships didn't even have shields.
🖖😎👍This truly would of been totally great for season 5 of Enterprise along with the NX-01 Refit design of the Enterprise indeed!,👌.
I have always believed the Romulan story was a missed opportunity for a star trek series.
They were building to it in ENT, but they were cancelled before they could finish it.
17 years later & I’m still pissed
I agree with Francesco, this would be a good story plot for Enterprise series.
I'm so glad someone is doing this in a easy to follow way.
Shame we never got to see this in what wouldve been season 5 of enterprise
These are some amazing Battle Tactics. It only shows how incompetent Starfleet had become in the Battle of Wolf-359. I now ferverently believe that the Federation’s “Golden Age” was a period of Stagnation. THANK FUCK A GENERATION OF OFFICERS LOST THEIR INNOCENCE THAT DAY! Otherwise, Starfleet wouldn’t be prepared for the Dominion War
ive always had an issue with the original series stating that the romulan ship they encountered was impulse drive only. there is no way they the could have made it so far away from home and kept the original crew alive, unless they used some sort of stasis. personally, im glad enterprise corrected that blatant writing error. thanks for posting this i really would have loved to have seen enterprise cover this era. but i understand that many people would groan about the fact that they just saw a war story on DS9.
I've heard it explained that when Scotty said "Their power is simple impulse" that the key word is POWER. Apparently he was referring to just their power source, not drive type. On most later ships, Impulse engines are fusion powered warp engines are antimatter. But back in the day, before warp 4 or 5, even human ships powered their warp engines with fusion reactors. Antimatter is much more powerful, and by the TOS era it was so ubiquitous that they just referred to an antimatter drive as a "warp drive" cause it powers the warp engines. However, the romulans of this era still used fusion to power their warp engines. What scotty meant was "They won't be able to keep up with us, because their warp engines are powered by simple fusion, rather than antimatter."
It always got me that in the Star Trek series, it became canon that the Federation agreed to limit itself to not equipping ships with cloaking devices. That your two greatest threats, the Klingons and Romulans had all their ships such equipped and often operating engaging their cloaking devices even when on routine patrol was crazy the Fedetation gave up that technology in regular use by opponents. That is like the US giving up nukes when the Soviets kept theirs. Federation ships should have had cloaking devices. Another aspect of the Romulans and Klingons, they operated their ships in triumvirates. While even in war, the Federation operated their ships singly. If they had operated in tandem with other vessels, there would be no need for the Kobiashi Maru training scenario during Star Fleet Academy training. Also, I know it was a lazy writing device for story telling, but in reality, starships should have been much more hardened to take incoming phaser and photon torpedo fire. How stupid was it that after taking a few volleys of enemy fire, shields were almost gone and such. Just my done of my longtime dislikes of Star Trek story telling.
In the original series, you see the Enterprise engage both Romulans and Klingons in one-on-one battles. I guess the logical reason for not incorporating multiple ship patrols as the norm, is that it would've weighed down the story line and been a recurring nightmare for script writers.
Special effects were limited during the TOS-Period. There was just not the budget to blow 100s of models up.
🖖😎👍Very nicely well done and very well informatively executed and explained very well nicely indeed 👌.
I always thought that instead of all the Kelvin timeline garbage, movies should have included the cast of Enterprise covering the Earth - Romulan war!
would have been nice although by that time the mainstream audience had been lost. remember ENT wasn't that popular which is a shame.
Enterprise was the last of what Star Trek was meant to be. It was an adventure in chronological order of what Gene Roddenberry called "Wagon train to the stars".
@@aerospacecadet9781although the Kelvin Trilogy is flawed, I wonder if it would be even better if the concept of it was used by people who knew how Star Trek works?
In theory the warp deltas is very usefull for screening out torpedo boats. Laser cannons fire at light speed (duh), and with anything in visual range, it would be instantaneous destruction. And you could shoot down the torps, and thin out thier missile stock, then bring in the 'big guns' as the NX or Dedalus class and then disabled them.
Man, if this is the level of defenses the Sol system had back then it kinda makes the Green attack on Earth in the Dominion War that much more impressive.
Well, it should also be noted the Breen showed and hit Earth. But none of them managed to actually LEAVE before Starfleet beat the shit out of them. The Breen might have showed up on the Federation's Doorstep, but they lost a pretty massive fleet to do so. This is also why the KDF was smart and never directly went for Earth. They full well know the Federation would drop the kid gloves and beat the crap out of them if they tried.
Enjoyed this as I hoped to see this in the next season of Enterprise but sadly, it never got the chance. Now I just feel cheated out of what would've made ENT great like the moments of the Dominion war in DS9. I hope we get it one day, but I know that's not likely to ever happen. But, you got my subscription, good stuff!
Sadly, the actors have aged, and probably have moved on to something else. I don't think another season could be made anymore, even if the producers wanted to.
Very well done. Of course, I am an old TOS hard-liner. I go strictly by by TOS lore which made plain (In the episodes Balance of Terror and Enterprise Incident) that the Romulans did not yet have the cloaking device during the 22nd century wars. Otherwise, very beautiful artwork over-layed with an engaging narrative.
Well in this lore it says that it's not "true" cloak, aka light bending cloak, it's a sensor cloak, making it hard to detect, kidna like modern stealth fighter's defence.
I promised I wouldn't be drunk when I saw this. Unfortunately, I'm drunk. I have to keep watching this like 12 times til i get it. (Uploader your video is awesome). To uploader and everyone reading this comment know that I've very drunk and I LOVE ALL YOU! *MASSIVE STAR TREK HUG*
While this was going on trip Tucker was in the Romulan Empire working undercover for section 31
1812 overture was very appropriate here.
If Enterprise focused on this instead of the awful Xindi arch it would've lasted a few more seasons
The Xindi arc was a helluva lot better than seasons 1 and 2, though.
@@Swiftbowyeah, and it was truly when Enterprise began to take off.
You're good at mixing these together considering most people disregard that old canon/side canon or the new canon.
I ate it up..Well done! This would've made a great storyline over multiple seasons of Enterprise..The Romulan-Earth Wars.
My first thoughts when you were at the part "They fell back to Mars", were "Oh man, I hope they use the Vertiron Array." I was not disappointed. Lol.
Interesting video. I've always wondered why the Romulan/ earth war was never depicted or shown in series or movies? It would suck after survivig world war 3 Earth would face aggression from an interstellar foe
The romulan battlecruer sounds like the early battlecruers ( a ship with cruiser speed and armed with battleship grade guns but little armour) a cruiser killer
I considered myself a "trekky" but I have come to realize I do not deserve to be called that ....there is so much trek I'm not familiar with , so many different story lines that I've not seem or heard . I stand corrected and humbled!! Maybe one day I can earn the status of "trekky"
Wow. I never knew it was that close. Just a handful of ships standing between Earth and utter destruction.
The Romulan war needs to be one of the next series we get.
Vulcan could have come in and destroyed the romulans
The Romulans tactics make no sense you would avoid maneuvering anywhere near planets .
You would attack from from above the ecliptic so nobody could surprise and lob warp speed missiles at the earth and sun to Induce a large CME aimed at Earth.
Venom. You want to know what pissed me off about this whole war? And I think you would agree with it, this war happened before that stupid episode on enterprises of "these are the Voyages". I mean really? Season 5 with a 2 part tv movie about the war should have been the end of the series.
Enterprise should have had a full seven seasons like all other trek incarnations. But no, it was axed. Like so many great shows of that era, taken too soon.
@@Alphasiera1701 no not really I see a 6th season the two season should have covered the earth-romulan war.
Many people are starting to write the same thing as I have long ago. The Earth-Romulan War should have been covered long ago, in either its own, 2-hour movie, or on ENTERPRISE. Enterprise could have omitted the non-canonical, bizarre, Xindi War, which made no sense and was never part of Earth's history and instead portrayed the Romulan War. If not, then at least a fifth season needed to be approved. The problem is, Paramount seemed oddly reticent to depict the Earth-Romulan War. Perhaps the cancellation of ENTERPRISE after only four, popular seasons served the purpose of avoiding depicting the Earth-Romulan War.
I would have preferred a three-part Earth-Romulan War miniseries, if we couldn’t get a Season 5 of Enterprise. A two-hour movie, while it might seem like a good idea, wouldn’t be able to cover all of the events which took place during that time… which is why I look at Enterprise as a series that could have had the chance to lay the foundation for the Earth-Romulan War in its first two or three seasons, but it missed so many opportunities to do so.
@@MsSissiePooh Yeah, as I wrote, Paramount from the very get go has always been reluctant to portray the Earth-Romulan War. They've avoided it like the plague. So has the rest of Hollywood. I own the Star Trek canonical book, FEDERATION. The chapter on the Earth-Romulan War is extremely fascinating. Earth had been instrumental in creating the first Coalition of Planets because Earth had no prior entanglements with any of the Alpha Quadrant planets. Victory in the Earth-Romulan War propelled Earth to de facto leadership in the new Federation. Over a quick space of time, the two most influential voices in the Federation became the de facto Earth-Vulcan alliance.
Even today, I see no interest coming out of Hollywood to film the Earth-Vulcan War. There is no new, main channel Star Trek series forthcoming. There's the successful, three-season Enterprise but it's on a special cable station and not everyone wants to subscribe to it just to watch the Enterprise, which takes place just before Captain Kirk. That show takes place in the early 23rd century about eighty years or so after the Earth-Romulan War.
@@jeffyoung60 - I’ve never understood why Paramount/ViacomCBS was (and still is, maybe?) so incredibly reluctant to portray the Earth-Romulan War in the various Star Trek series, since this was *the* pivotal event which led to the birth and rise of the United Federation of Planets, and Starfleet Command.
I noted that there was no hesitancy on Paramount’s part to portray the Xindi War (Enterprise) and the Dominion War (DS9), but to leave the depiction of the most crucial event in the Federation/Starfleet’s history to a series of novels which, while all are good, aren’t “official canon” (according to Paramount/ViacomCBS) is such a great shame, since we could have seen some remarkable storytelling, and gain insight as to how and why the Federation came to be, and learn more about the people - Terran, Vulcan, Andorian and others - who played significant roles in creating the Federation.
Even though we now have new management at the helm of the Star Trek franchise and at ViacomCBS/Paramount, I’m not holding my breath regarding whether we’ll finally see the Earth-Romulan War become part of the official on-screen canon, instead of continuing to always dance around it, and refusing to “boldly go” forward to tell us this part of the story.
@@MsSissiePooh Stephanie, you took the words out of my mouth. On other UA-cam posts I've written almost the same thing you wrote, literally word for word. On IMDB, when it was possible to leave comments, I asked the very same question. No one knows the reason(s) why Paramount and Hollywood were and remain reluctant to portray the Earth-Romulan War. It would take someone from within Paramount who is in the know to reveal the reason. But for all these decades no one has come forward. Certainly it would be expensive because of all of the special effects. It would cost something in the neighborhood of the Star Wars Clone Wars movie which showed intergalactic space battles.
The problem is that there are NO real Star Trek fans within Paramount and the rest of Hollywood. The Star Trek franchise is simply a business and the profit line is what matters. Even if that means crummy Star Trek movies and often poorly written tv show episodes, if that is what it takes to generate quick profits then so be it. To date the one excellent Star Trek movie remains, "First Contact".
@@jeffyoung60 - This is what kinda ticks me off with Paramount/ViacomCBS. For the past 55 years, much has been made of the Earth-Romulan War as being the crucial event in the Prime Star Trek timeline which led to the birth of the United Federation of Planets and established Starfleet Command as a part of the Federation, yet we’ve never seen it depicted on screen. We get some mentions of it in TOS, but not much else. Same holds true for TNG, while the Earth-Romulan War wasn’t mentioned much in DS9 and Voyager.
Now, we got the Xindi War/Temporal Cold War in seasons 2 & 3 of Enterprise, which (from what I understand) many Trek fans didn’t want to see, and the storytelling we got during that story arc ranged from dull to meh, with the occasional decent episode (“Similitude”, “Stratagem” and “Twilight”). DS9 gave us the Dominion War, and during that story arc, we did get some pretty darn good episodes (“In The Pale Moonlight” being one of the best) and the kind of epic storytelling that keeps people watching.
And I think that’s what missing from what’s called “Nu Trek”; where’s the epic storytelling that used to thrill us every week and get us to tune in? Today, there’s far too much emphasis on being “woke”, and it makes some of the “Nu Trek” show episodes a chore to watch because “wokeness” is being shoved down our throats, instead of giving us good storytelling which can tackle a controversial subject - and it seems as though the Earth-Romulan War fits into that “controversial” category - and not slam us over the head with this “oh, look at us! See how ‘woke’ we are?” nonsense which feels forced, artificial and unreal.
I also think that when Star Trek officially graduated to a “Franchise”, that pretty much ended any efforts to “boldly go where no one has gone before” in terms of visual storytelling and taking risks with that storytelling. While I understand that visual effects make up a good chunk of the budget of a show like Discovery, for example, it should be possible to have good visual effects - particularly for the space battles, which would be part of the Earth-Romulan War story - and a decent script which can tell the story in four to six hours (eight hours maximum), highlighting not only the battles in space, but the conflicts among everyone involved, from Starfleet officers to the Vulcans, Andorians, Tellarites and other alien races, in order to end the war, and bring about what would become the Federation.
Unfortunately, Star Trek has played it way too safe far too often, by blandly going where everyone else has already gone, and it’s bringing nothing new to the table… which is probably why some fans are justifiably angry with “Nu Trek”, because it does feel like it’s nothing more than a cash grab done by people who don’t really care about the franchise and the people who are willing to invest time and pay good money (whether it’s a movie, Blu-ray/DVD or a subscription to Paramount+) to watch, when it should be giving us good storytelling that’s worth watching. A Star Trek Earth-Romulan War limited series - with a powerhouse script, a cast of good actors, a good director (or directors), high quality visual effects and an incredible orchestral score - could bring back those disappointed, angry and discouraged Trek fans who gave up and walked away from the franchise in the wake of JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman’s takeover.
Like I said in the live chat, five stars. Awesome. More asap.
Very well done!! I can't wait for the next episode!!!
I really enjoyed this style of presentation. It’s like reading a really engaging work of science fiction. Are your productions Star Trek canon, or are they your own own stories?
It would be cool if you or someone could help you to make your battlespace into online games to play the scenarios you had for star trek
im certainly game for any modders/indy devs
The Daedlas ships were cruisers set out for exploration at that time.
Nice video but stop with the pretentious over-pronoucing of words and attempts to role your R's. It's pretty pathetic. Just talk nornally
Arguably if they insisted on doing another prequel series, this would have been the era to go with. Not a decade prior to TOS chock full of continuity breaks. If they'd done this as a series, even a limited one, it would have been awesome. Would have even offered a chance to toss in some ENT guest stars since it was their timeframe.
I really decry the fact that they didn't do this, or the anthology idea that was rumored at one point. The one where they would have had a season or two from different eras, and filled in things like Captain Harriman and the Enterprise-B, or the Enterprise-C up to and through their destruction at Narendra III. They had so much to mine from but couldn't do it.
They had to shoe-horn in a cast of either forgettable or thoroughly unlikeable characters and play ping pong with what their story was and when it takes place because it's all very badly written and just plain doesn't jive with the rest of Trek at all. Cheers to STO, though, if anyone has made a valiant college try of an effort at making STD or STP "fit" into the larger story it's them. Which is ironic since STO isn't even considered canon itself.
There's more real star trek in this video then a whole SEASON of STD.
a real shame, if you look at the props and costumes of DISCO you'd think it was a sequel to ENT. although Enterprise itself didn't get good till the 3rd season... fingers crossed?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 The only thing I didn't like about enterprise was the time travel which,based on the previous decades multiverse theories the producers supported,meant it ACTUALLY could never be considered the "true" timeline in which the original series existed.
I now wish I had gave it the support it deserved. :(
I gave up on STD by the second episode when it was clear they were using the franchise to push a SJW type message,which of course was later admitted to when they made a reference to "trump supporters" being the klingons,so even tho pike may have made the second season better as some say I for one will never support it.
yeah i don't understand why they felt the need for the whole time travel arc, it ends up being superfluous anyway. DISCO season 1 didn't feel like star trek it spent too much trying to be dark and edgy and left you with few likable characters. as for the political agenda if you watch seasons 1-2 of TNG they are also sometimes quite on the nose. weather season 3 will see a new direction i don't know but its not unusual for trek.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Believe me I WANT some good star trek in my life but....
Shrug.
Thanks for the response. :)
I think the timing and variety of music in these videos is rare and wonderful in comparison to most.
THE DATE WAS 2156. THE PLACE: BABYLON 5!
Fortunately, this battle of Sol went better than the one in B5
@@weldonwin any chance of you doing B5?!
I'd love to see this one! I really do want to see this particular video story you apparently have cooking up.
What a great series.
a Verteron array from Venus? TWO PLANETS and MILLIONS OF MILES AWAY? That's a HELL of a weapon! PUHLEASE!
how many NX-04's were there?
I thought the exact same thing
what kinda ignorant comment: "Evacuate a BILLION people". Even at 1000 people per ship that's an equivalent of 1 MILLION ship trips. If you could have 100 ships arrive at a time, that's 10,000 trips, even at only 2 hours per trip, that's 20,000 hours or 833 days, or OVER 2 YEARS! Best, fastest scenario. What kinda fool would EVEN suggest that.
Why would NX-04 be Constellation? The naming convention was clearly going with space shuttle names in the order the shuttles were constructed. NX-04 would be Discovery. Also you said NX-04 twice and called it Excalibur the second time.
The only problem I have as Star Trek is the lack of ships Not to mention absolutely no orbital and planetary defenses like satellites and ground based service to space attack drones or Rockets ... It's like the federation doesn't believe in building a military Even though they have people who want to Totally kill them... Babylon 5 was much more accurate at the numbers of ships That was in there fleet
WOW This is cool. when will the move come out
Some of those Romulan ships look like Thunderbird 2.
if people want me to do wings episodes on Thunderbirds/captain scarlet vehicles please let me know.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 , I actually would like to see that very much, VGM98.
What is shocking that so far in the future starfleet would have so few ships. Imagine, that warp delta is about the size of modern destroyer. There are currently 100s of destroyers in all of Earth fleets. The largerst ships can be compared to today's aircraft carriers - there are dozens on Earth right now.
So actual earth fleet would consist of few hundred warp deltas, over 100 larger ships and at least 30 capital ships - this is with today's production - with 2155 multiply by 3x.
Also any idea of evacuating a billion people == 1000s of ships that are cruise liner sized. How can there be a 1000 cruise liners and only few dozen military ships?
bear in mind Starfleet is still only a small force, Various other Militarys exist alongside it from the MACOs to the Royal Navy. earth doesn't really have much of a production capacity set up yet. remember in ENT they only have 1 Drydock for producing the NX class.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 So other military forces would not join SF defending Earth? So over decades they build only one large space dock? Imagine if today we had discovery of economical fusion power enabling use of electrical engines on spacecraft with say top speed of 0.1c. I bet within year investment would top 200b. I mean electric vehicle investment today is over 200b per year.
Also why Romulans have so few ships?
I always thought a telepathic tool was odd for the Romulans Since they had burned out the ones they had getting to Romulas centuries earlier. Not their thing.
Awfully lucky for Earth that all the planets of the system were so conveniently lined up so the running battle could be fought around planets.
Nice , kudos to all involved .Thank you.
I didn`t realize that Euderion pics were those nice.I love me some Euderion.LLAP
yeah he really is a talented artist.
so much potential for star trek tv shows, and yet we got a time traveling spin on a pole ship, with “hero’s” rather than normal star trek officers. the amount of topics in star trek lore that we dont see on a big screen, and these writers choose to keep making stuff up.
Great storyline ❤
This would make an epic season but I don’t know how it’ll work now unless the main ship isn’t the enterprise
This doesn't make sense. The planets are not all lined up in a straight line. They orbit the Sun in a disc. So if Jupiter is on one side of the Sun there is a high probability that Mars is on the other side of the Sun. So the distance between the two planets could be the distance between Jupiter and the Sun plus the distance from the Sun to Mars. Also the average distance between asteroids in the asteroid belt is something like a million miles. It is a big empty void. You wouldn't know if you were in it. Also it is not a given that an invading alien race would approach Earth from within the plane of the solar system.
Thank you developing an entertaining canonical accurate depictions of the Roluman War. Yesterday, I watched the videos on the fan film, The Romulan War. Great ships and decent graphics, but it’s story was total garbage. You brilliant merged the mess left by ST Enterprises and incorporated the designs from Starfleet museum. CBS/Paramount should make a limited series based off your depiction.
your too kind. the Romulan war has far more Production value than i could ever dream of. and i think the story is interesting and quite different, so long as it has a good pay off. ships wise i absolutely love the Romulan missile carrier and i wish i had included it.
Which book featured this I only have two of the Romulan War books.
While a nice story, the author doesn't seem to know the order in which the planets in the SOL system lay, or that they are not in a straight line, bur orbit in a random form.
9:22 wow Communist Starfleet confirmed? Can’t wait for Winnie the Pooh to make an appearance
Sol's asteroid belt is not dense enough to hide a fleet in or behind. It's called the asteroid belt because there are more asteroids there than elsewhere but that's a relative thing.
There are a lot of Jovian moons but the ones big enough for a ship to hide behind are few, mostly just the four Galilean ones. They are never all that close to each other. At the sorts of velocities these ships would be moving at and the number of ships involved, and therefore the total width of the "sensor array" the enemy would have had a 5 ship squadron would have been hard pressed to hide in any of those moons shadows for long without a lot of EW help.
As another commenter pointed out the outer planets are most unlikely to be neatly lined up like that ever (and why would a fleet drop out at Pluto anyway?). One of them might be in line with the Centauri system at any given time but the rest are likely to be elsewhere. A clever admiral would also drop out of warp well outside the planetary orbits and plot a course to avoid all of the planets except Earth allowing him to avoid any stations, sublight ships based at them etc. In open space D'deridex would have numbers and superior tech on his side. Humanity would need the Andorians or Vulcans to assist or face planetary bombardment.
Good job guys! I was entertained.
Well done. The early battles and technological advancements they took advantage of or were born of the battles always interested me.
The chowder is an odd looking design like the tyrannus and sparrow. The t varro looking so different doesnt matter so much as its supposed to be an advanced design but that third odd looking ship was new i think this vid said. So those odd ships dont look odd because they are old then.
The narrator sounds like he has a fake overly-posh British accent.
Great work! This was well worth the wait. Waiting on the next episode to see how the humans kicked romulan ass!
Great vid although the attempt to sound posh resulted in numerous mispronunciations (little petty hate on my part) but keep up the great work :)
The NX-04 was Discovery
Enterprise after all of these years needs closure. Not the way it was done.
Where do you get your information from? Is this in the enterprise books??? I love the title as well "the battle of sol" that's really dramatic. The battle of sol takes me back to season 4 of Babylon 5 lol.
yeah so its based off events described in the books. on the romulan side i added the Okazaki ships for more variety and used the approximate numbers of ships suggested by the books.
See, I don't recognize Enterprise as canon, or anything after. It's all just terrible fan fiction. Hearing 'lore' from a random youtuber is far more appealing than watching Ent or Dis, even if it does just recite that terrible fan fiction. At least I don't have to suffer through constant contradiction and character assassination of entire species. Just facts and figures. Cold, logical.
If ENT wasn't your cup of tea. You should come back in two weeks. There's a video coming out that might interest you.
uh, the Romulans only had Impulse Drives and would never have travelled too far from their home territory, certainly not as far as Earth (10000 years at Impulse).
I think that should be reckoned. Yes they do have warp capabilities
You do such a great job of this. But I am unable to watch them in order. They are not numbered, i just watch them randomly as they shown up on my time line.
here's the full playlist ua-cam.com/play/PLjNbxX7w4eoimvVR5l2FsQtl92v3ds4pR.html
Well I hope it taught Starfleet that they needed to kick ship building into extreme overdrive. Having so few ships to defend your planet is ridiculous. If it were some sort of game I would be building ships left and right at different planets in case of an attack on one. Major recourses would have gone into building a fleet so large no one would want to even try to attack.
Awesome story Good Job for its creation
I love the vids. Something I notice is that you go from from admiral to captain archer.
Planet based weapons not bad
Was this "Cpt Archer" always this important... or was some of this written when the character got fleshed out in Star Trek Enterprise?
it's just cheap and easy for them to use stock footage of Scott Bacula.
Great job, loved it, keep up the good work!
This would have been so much better than discovery...
Discovery put my love of Trek in the ICU. The prognosis is not good. I may have to pull the plug.....Damn you Disney!
cant wait til the battle of cheron
Military campaigns and great speeches go together like ketchup and french fries, beef steak and steak sauce, macaroni and cheese.
Great video. Really enjoy your stuff generally. But defense in depth of a solar system ummm...? Well that kinda doesn’t make sense because of three dimensional nature of space. Like why would the Romulan fleet drop out of warp near Pluto? Why not strike from beneath the galactic plane directly at earth? And it Certainly seems like the planets all just happened to be aligned in the direction of the Romulan invasion fleet too. I dunno. I sort of imagine space battles taking place around little moons or big asteroids, where one fleet can hide and lie in ambush. Because space is just huge and empty and any place to hide is valuable real estate.
wouldn't look as good though. also the 'depth Defense' points are more reference points. they more refer to the planets path and distance relative to the sun. in terms of dropping out of warp on top of earth. they'd be picked up the the warp detection grid and be obliterated the moment they dropped out of warp.