In response to the lady who brought up the point about Jamaican nurses, I wish to expound further to say that recruitment of Caribbean people has not always been for "professional" jobs. Recruitment has also been for "skilled" professions such as carpenters, marine engineers, bus drivers, farm labour. I wrote a thesis on Barbadian Migration to the Windwards during the 1900s to the 1950s and I spent quite a lot of time in the Barbados archives. I was very surprised by the number of official requests from the USA for skilled workers as well as professionals.
When we talk about Caribbean migration; looking at its trends and patterns, one of the major mistakes made is that "white" (and non-black) West Indians are often overlooked. The West Indies has always been a melange of different peoples; European ( British, Irish, Scotland, German, Austrian, Spanish), Asian (Indian, Chinese, Syrian) African. But often the focus is only on Black West Indian migration. If we look at white West Indians we have to consider the mass exit of whites immidiately after the end of the slave trade and then again after the end of slavery. Consider that Barbados was the only British colony to spawn another colony; the Carolinas. So that the first settlers into the Carolinas were mainly from Speightstown, Barbados and the surrounding areas. Consider as well that the founder of Austin, Texas is the descendant of the same Mr. Austin who founded Oistin's, Barbados (*irish people in Barbados had a difficulty pronouncing the name Austin and so that's why its Oistin's town) Non-black West Indians have always had the "privilege" of being able to be assimilated into white American society and so their prescence disappears into the fabric of "traditional" ie white American Society.
In response to the lady @54:05 I think part of the issue is that USA's census categories are flawed. This may be due to a lack of understanding what makes up a persons identity. Identity refers to 1. national (where u were born) 2. regional identity (the economic trading block) 3. ethnicity (African, Asian, European, Middle Eastern) 4. cultural (British influenced, French Influenced, Spanish influenced, Dutch Influenced), 5. religious (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Rastafarian).
On the subject of use of the term West Indian, what was missing (but which the gentleman glanced over) is the historical use of the word. The British West India Company was set up by the British to run the affairs in the British owned territories of the Americas. As such the Anglophone Caribbean/British Caribbean is referred to as the West Indies. The people in the English speaking Caribbean refer to themselves as West Indians. Regarding a push to do away with the term, that is problematic because the term West Indies is part of our official address. for eg. I live in the parish of Christ Church, in the island of Barbados, in the West Indies. Especially when sending mail outside the Caribbean region the W.I. abbreviation is placed on the end. The use of the term West Indies, in my opinion, has morphed due to its use by persons in the USA. It is the USA using the term West Indies and West Indian to refer collectively to all persons from the Caribbean. This I think comes from their lack of knowledge and understanding of the history, culture and "language based" divides in the region. Nb. there are non English/non British territories considered West Indian. these include Haiti, Dominican Republic. This is due to their inclusion in CARICOM, the economic trading block in the Caribbean.
This was cool, the Audience was definitely on point with questions and input. The West Indies is the entire Western Hemisphere not just a some of "the India Islands" but all of them, The East Indies also has amazing parades on most of the islands in the Pacific Ocean throughout South East Asia, they are the Indians of the Eastern Hemisphere we are the Indians of the Western Hemisphere. (1:01:31) Exactly Indian and Chinese make melanated people who are not considered "African". Haitian without the (H) is (Atian) =Asian Bajan sounds like without the (B)Ajan=Asian Jam+aican -(ASIAN) (Khan) Me(Xi)Can =Xi= SHi =SHIA =ASIA (Khan) Amerukhan (Khan) AMERINDIAN= (DIA)=(SHIA) ASIAN HAB(SHI) =(Habe(sh)a) Aethio(p+ia) There thousands upon thousands of great tribes aceoss the entire world, there are over 1 million islands in this Asiatic world. Everyone is Asiatic/Indian, we are all known as Asiatic=Indian people Asiatic human race. So called Black Africans, African Americans, Indo Caribbean are all made up constructs, including (53:03) Latino's are in fact Italianos, white/tan complected Lebanese, white/tan Jewish, white/tan Europeans/white/tan that are all known as "CaucAsians" who migrated to South America in waves to colonize and assimilate in the the spanish Indian territory. --->Black refers to as Black Indian/Asian and Brown Indian/Asian. Haitians and all of the melanated Spanish countries were known as hispanics because they were known as part of the Habshi Dynasty/Moorish Empire moors/moreno/morena aka spanish indians who ruled Europe, Spain and Asia. "Indo" does not refer to the indigenous Melanated, Austral Melanesian, Aethiopic, Afro Asiatic, Indian/Indio/India, Mayan, Inca, only to those who are a derivative of the 9ether Asiatic Indian who produced the recessive 6ether through mutation. Indo-Mongoloids are a derivative of the Afro Melanated Asiatic and Mongoloid or Caucasoid mating which produces the mutation. Albinos are also a great topic to understand evolution and mutation. Evolution is constantly occurring at every moment in time on a daily because people mate and migrate and mate all across the entire world continuously and inevitably. Yes it is in fact that we are all variations of one another. It is all one territory called Ether which is home to the teraformers 9ether and 6ether Ether=EARTH(er/ling)=PanGEA=GIA which is "A=SIA" SHIA which is IN"G"IA which is INDIA etc. when we translate the etymology of the words , the sound=phonetics and the semantics linguistically. We have all been misguided by so called educators, clueless so called scholars, bias interpreters, folks who are well read on BS, cartographers and so called leaders who name places and rename places to create confusion overtime. Much is still yet to be uncovered and rediscovered. Thank you for reading!!! Much love to all.
Great talk. I hope to hear more.
In response to the lady who brought up the point about Jamaican nurses, I wish to expound further to say that recruitment of Caribbean people has not always been for "professional" jobs. Recruitment has also been for "skilled" professions such as carpenters, marine engineers, bus drivers, farm labour. I wrote a thesis on Barbadian Migration to the Windwards during the 1900s to the 1950s and I spent quite a lot of time in the Barbados archives. I was very surprised by the number of official requests from the USA for skilled workers as well as professionals.
When we talk about Caribbean migration; looking at its trends and patterns, one of the major mistakes made is that "white" (and non-black) West Indians are often overlooked. The West Indies has always been a melange of different peoples; European ( British, Irish, Scotland, German, Austrian, Spanish), Asian (Indian, Chinese, Syrian) African. But often the focus is only on Black West Indian migration. If we look at white West Indians we have to consider the mass exit of whites immidiately after the end of the slave trade and then again after the end of slavery. Consider that Barbados was the only British colony to spawn another colony; the Carolinas. So that the first settlers into the Carolinas were mainly from Speightstown, Barbados and the surrounding areas. Consider as well that the founder of Austin, Texas is the descendant of the same Mr. Austin who founded Oistin's, Barbados (*irish people in Barbados had a difficulty pronouncing the name Austin and so that's why its Oistin's town)
Non-black West Indians have always had the "privilege" of being able to be assimilated into white American society and so their prescence disappears into the fabric of "traditional" ie white American Society.
In response to the lady @54:05 I think part of the issue is that USA's census categories are flawed. This may be due to a lack of understanding what makes up a persons identity. Identity refers to 1. national (where u were born) 2. regional identity (the economic trading block) 3. ethnicity (African, Asian, European, Middle Eastern) 4. cultural (British influenced, French Influenced, Spanish influenced, Dutch Influenced), 5. religious (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Rastafarian).
On the subject of use of the term West Indian, what was missing (but which the gentleman glanced over) is the historical use of the word. The British West India Company was set up by the British to run the affairs in the British owned territories of the Americas. As such the Anglophone Caribbean/British Caribbean is referred to as the West Indies. The people in the English speaking Caribbean refer to themselves as West Indians.
Regarding a push to do away with the term, that is problematic because the term West Indies is part of our official address. for eg. I live in the parish of Christ Church, in the island of Barbados, in the West Indies. Especially when sending mail outside the Caribbean region the W.I. abbreviation is placed on the end.
The use of the term West Indies, in my opinion, has morphed due to its use by persons in the USA. It is the USA using the term West Indies and West Indian to refer collectively to all persons from the Caribbean. This I think comes from their lack of knowledge and understanding of the history, culture and "language based" divides in the region.
Nb. there are non English/non British territories considered West Indian. these include Haiti, Dominican Republic. This is due to their inclusion in CARICOM, the economic trading block in the Caribbean.
This was cool, the Audience was definitely on point with questions and input.
The West Indies is the entire Western Hemisphere not just a some of "the India Islands" but all of them,
The East Indies also has amazing parades on most of the islands in the Pacific Ocean throughout South East Asia, they are the Indians of the Eastern Hemisphere we are the Indians of the Western Hemisphere.
(1:01:31) Exactly Indian and Chinese make melanated people who are not considered "African".
Haitian without the (H) is (Atian) =Asian
Bajan sounds like without the (B)Ajan=Asian
Jam+aican -(ASIAN) (Khan)
Me(Xi)Can =Xi= SHi =SHIA =ASIA (Khan)
Amerukhan (Khan) AMERINDIAN= (DIA)=(SHIA) ASIAN
HAB(SHI) =(Habe(sh)a) Aethio(p+ia)
There thousands upon thousands of great tribes aceoss the entire world, there are over 1 million islands in this Asiatic world.
Everyone is Asiatic/Indian, we are all known as Asiatic=Indian people Asiatic human race. So called Black Africans, African Americans, Indo Caribbean are all made up constructs, including (53:03) Latino's are in fact Italianos, white/tan complected Lebanese, white/tan Jewish, white/tan Europeans/white/tan that are all known as "CaucAsians" who migrated to South America in waves to colonize and assimilate in the the spanish Indian territory.
--->Black refers to as Black Indian/Asian and Brown Indian/Asian. Haitians and all of the melanated Spanish countries were known as hispanics because they were known as part of the Habshi Dynasty/Moorish Empire moors/moreno/morena aka spanish indians who ruled Europe, Spain and Asia.
"Indo" does not refer to the indigenous Melanated, Austral Melanesian, Aethiopic, Afro Asiatic, Indian/Indio/India, Mayan, Inca, only to those who are a derivative of the 9ether Asiatic Indian who produced the recessive 6ether through mutation. Indo-Mongoloids are a derivative of the Afro Melanated Asiatic and Mongoloid or Caucasoid mating which produces the mutation.
Albinos are also a great topic to understand evolution and mutation. Evolution is constantly occurring at every moment in time on a daily because people mate and migrate and mate all across the entire world continuously and inevitably. Yes it is in fact that we are all variations of one another.
It is all one territory called Ether which is home to the teraformers 9ether and 6ether Ether=EARTH(er/ling)=PanGEA=GIA which is "A=SIA" SHIA which is IN"G"IA which is INDIA etc. when we translate the etymology of the words , the sound=phonetics and the semantics linguistically.
We have all been misguided by so called educators, clueless so called scholars, bias interpreters, folks who are well read on BS, cartographers and so called leaders who name places and rename places to create confusion overtime. Much is still yet to be uncovered and rediscovered.
Thank you for reading!!! Much love to all.