Sneaky is wayyy too sanguine about C9 forcing Zeyzal upon him. At one point there was serious talk of Smoothie being an MVP candidate, and then suddenly a season later Fat Jack and Reapered claimed Zeyzal was being inserted for his great "shotcalling." I think it's clear that they wanted to dump Sneaky's contract and had deluded themselves into thinking TSM Zven was a better option. They saddled Sneaky with Zeyzal (who was horrible in lane) and the "Sneaky in lane" meme only grew louder. Making Sneaky look washed was Fat Jack's way of demoting Sneaky for Zven and trying to avoid the huge backlash. It failed miserably when C9 missed Worlds for the first time and at one point Jack even rolled out his dad during an interview with Travis at the LCS to basically distract away from his cut throat practices. Hey look everyone it's my sweet old dad, he loves C9 and League too, isn't that awesome. We never saw his dad again. And Sneaky never played another game in the LCS even though he left as either one of the Top 2 ADCs in the league.
The crazy thing was that even when Sneaky in lane was a meme, he had average stats in lane, not bad stats, and then C9 was still a top team. I really wish we got to see Sneaky and Vulcan play together.
@@tiger5869 Exactly! I always said "If only Sneaky had gotten Vulcan as a Support." I'm not remotely a conspiracy theorist, in fact I'm the opposite, but if you look at the way Jack has manipulated his rosters and sold players from his team (not just in League), it is absolutely believable that he was seeking an exit strategy to dump the final OG C9 member and his biggest contract (he could spend less on the diminished Zven and still pay handsomely for hot free agent Vulcan, getting a full bot lane for the price of one ADC (or maybe he wanted to save up just to waste it all on Perkz!). Either way, inserting Zeyzal and then not only having him roam, but literally never ganking for Bot, made it impossible for Sneaky to look like the best ADC in the LCS. Finally, DoubleLift created the whole "Sneaky in lane" meme which haunted Sneaky for years, and yet DL has been the one who has repeatedly said Sneaky was crippled by having Zeyzal as a Support, and most recently that he's embarrassed that Zeyzal and FakeGod are even in the LCS.
imo a great zyra nerf would be making plants give more gold. she wont have to feel any worse and enemies get a justified reward for killing them - cus rn it's 3 gold i think which is a joke.
that would only be somewhat useful for laning zyra, how exactly is jungle zyra nerfed by this? her main issue is that she far outclears any other jungler, while taking even less damage from camps than your standard jungler... i'm also confused why they were saying that zyra wasn't a good laner, or how doublelift can say that she's fair as support, she literally solo wins bott without landing a single ability, her plants can hold waves and provide enough poke to get an adc low enough for an all in, or pushed out of lane... zyra hasn't been balanced for years now and she just got introduced to the jungle, zyra felt "weak" because the creatures playing zyra were plants themselves, vegetables irl
@@hehexd5317 well it'd be meant to target her laning. she's not gunna go back support unless she's buffed in lane, but when she's meta she's incredibly unfun to lane vs.
@@Squidmoto3 she's not played support in pro play, because they either need someone to engage, or peel for the adc. She's been broken in soloq for ages. The issue is that since riot made her playable in jg, pros can now abuse her in pro play as well (they were already attempting in the supp role from time to time, prior to her jg buff). Your idea does nothing to counter her jungling, she just afk farms and doesn't contest invades, and as far as soloq supp goes, i don't think making the plants more gold matters much, sure, as an adc i'd get more dopamine from killing them, but not like it actually makes her less of a pain to lane against. Her plants need to be gutted, that should've been done a while ago actually, again, she wins bott 1v2, a zyra player with cerebral palsy can win the lane by herself, she feels good to play with as an adc, because (if she possesses a singular braincell) she'll just zone the enemy duo by herself, but she feels like shit to play into, because she'll do the aforementioned shit to you.
On that Elden Ring point, I think there's some fairness in finding certain tools used to succeed in a game not the same someone else did. Plenty who talk about Ash Summons probably glaze many garbage parts of Fromsoft's Souls games, but it's absolutely undeniable someone who spammed Ordovis to repeatedly stagger a boss with their mimic had a completely different experience to someone who one-shot with a spell or ashes of war, who had a different experience to someone who parried with Misericorde, which itself is distinct from someone who simply grabbed a colossal weapon and rolled. Sure, all of these people succeed in defeating a boss, but each experience was substantially distinct. And for plenty, there's a satisfaction gained from defeating a boss in a certain way that you just won't get utilizing more powerful, and simply unbalanced tools. Spirits as a whole change the experience between two identical builds on their own. It's easiest to see them as an alternative to online coop. Even the jellyfish is capable of drawing aggro, giving you room to perform actions more freely than someone who just wouldn't have without the ally to help. These are clearly substantially different experiences, even if the spirit isn't around the entire fight. Definitely, use them if you want, I did my playthrough and pulled out Tiche when I just really stop having fun in the DLC, but I know that the experience is different from what could be a better one... or it's just another garbage Elden Ring boss, so might as well just get that "Legend Slain" message and be done with it.
Using "builds", IMO, really just takes away from the intended hitless SL1 experience. Sure, you can nuke bosses with your boosted damage and damage mitigation, but you just aren't going to get the same satisfaction as somebody who played the game blindfolded with the club.
I hate the way the casters act super hype even when the thing that happened is kinda unimportant or due to a huge, flagrant error on the part of the player that dies. Especially when that error is laziness.
Audio tweaks sound fantastic, much less peaks and everyone sounds much more neutral. Thank you Editor! o7
Doublelift is really optimizing the flame% route. Only took him 58 seconds to call someone dog water. Hopefully he can pb again next week!
1:34 Hey! It's sneaky in the audience!
I hope next year Shopify reviews their notes, goes big, and invests in a monitor for FakeGod
hear me out, sneaky and doublelift duo bot with meteos jungle next year for spotify
YES
Sneaky is wayyy too sanguine about C9 forcing Zeyzal upon him. At one point there was serious talk of Smoothie being an MVP candidate, and then suddenly a season later Fat Jack and Reapered claimed Zeyzal was being inserted for his great "shotcalling." I think it's clear that they wanted to dump Sneaky's contract and had deluded themselves into thinking TSM Zven was a better option. They saddled Sneaky with Zeyzal (who was horrible in lane) and the "Sneaky in lane" meme only grew louder. Making Sneaky look washed was Fat Jack's way of demoting Sneaky for Zven and trying to avoid the huge backlash. It failed miserably when C9 missed Worlds for the first time and at one point Jack even rolled out his dad during an interview with Travis at the LCS to basically distract away from his cut throat practices. Hey look everyone it's my sweet old dad, he loves C9 and League too, isn't that awesome. We never saw his dad again. And Sneaky never played another game in the LCS even though he left as either one of the Top 2 ADCs in the league.
The crazy thing was that even when Sneaky in lane was a meme, he had average stats in lane, not bad stats, and then C9 was still a top team. I really wish we got to see Sneaky and Vulcan play together.
@@tiger5869 Exactly! I always said "If only Sneaky had gotten Vulcan as a Support." I'm not remotely a conspiracy theorist, in fact I'm the opposite, but if you look at the way Jack has manipulated his rosters and sold players from his team (not just in League), it is absolutely believable that he was seeking an exit strategy to dump the final OG C9 member and his biggest contract (he could spend less on the diminished Zven and still pay handsomely for hot free agent Vulcan, getting a full bot lane for the price of one ADC (or maybe he wanted to save up just to waste it all on Perkz!). Either way, inserting Zeyzal and then not only having him roam, but literally never ganking for Bot, made it impossible for Sneaky to look like the best ADC in the LCS. Finally, DoubleLift created the whole "Sneaky in lane" meme which haunted Sneaky for years, and yet DL has been the one who has repeatedly said Sneaky was crippled by having Zeyzal as a Support, and most recently that he's embarrassed that Zeyzal and FakeGod are even in the LCS.
I feel like the banter quaility has gone up this year i watched this solely for the chat and banter since it was a stomp.
I just came thank you Mr editor
That was so funny at 28:27
why meteos's cam is like 240p
Maybe Shopify should sell to Spotify. Might be a good move
Is Hai a C9 coach? I was shocked to see him there
Every time I’m about to learn something about zyra jg doublelift yaps like crazy.
Yo where is the DIG Fly game??
sneaky so cute with long hair fr
Sneaky is a liberal plot to make good, red-blooded heterosexual men question their sexualities
Nah he looks like a 12 year old girl it’s weird . Legit trolling
Nahhh he needs a cut lol
@@metalghost4869straight run it down mid type hair
imo a great zyra nerf would be making plants give more gold. she wont have to feel any worse and enemies get a justified reward for killing them - cus rn it's 3 gold i think which is a joke.
that would only be somewhat useful for laning zyra, how exactly is jungle zyra nerfed by this? her main issue is that she far outclears any other jungler, while taking even less damage from camps than your standard jungler... i'm also confused why they were saying that zyra wasn't a good laner, or how doublelift can say that she's fair as support, she literally solo wins bott without landing a single ability, her plants can hold waves and provide enough poke to get an adc low enough for an all in, or pushed out of lane... zyra hasn't been balanced for years now and she just got introduced to the jungle, zyra felt "weak" because the creatures playing zyra were plants themselves, vegetables irl
@@hehexd5317 well it'd be meant to target her laning. she's not gunna go back support unless she's buffed in lane, but when she's meta she's incredibly unfun to lane vs.
@@Squidmoto3 she's not played support in pro play, because they either need someone to engage, or peel for the adc. She's been broken in soloq for ages. The issue is that since riot made her playable in jg, pros can now abuse her in pro play as well (they were already attempting in the supp role from time to time, prior to her jg buff). Your idea does nothing to counter her jungling, she just afk farms and doesn't contest invades, and as far as soloq supp goes, i don't think making the plants more gold matters much, sure, as an adc i'd get more dopamine from killing them, but not like it actually makes her less of a pain to lane against. Her plants need to be gutted, that should've been done a while ago actually, again, she wins bott 1v2, a zyra player with cerebral palsy can win the lane by herself, she feels good to play with as an adc, because (if she possesses a singular braincell) she'll just zone the enemy duo by herself, but she feels like shit to play into, because she'll do the aforementioned shit to you.
Spotify should just let the players pick comfort and play to their strengths. Bot lane plays to scale, top weak sides, jg camps mid
I was kind of really rude about it
We love a self aware king
yo can we cool it with the spoiler titles?
not first but closer than ever
No graves no win?
On that Elden Ring point, I think there's some fairness in finding certain tools used to succeed in a game not the same someone else did. Plenty who talk about Ash Summons probably glaze many garbage parts of Fromsoft's Souls games, but it's absolutely undeniable someone who spammed Ordovis to repeatedly stagger a boss with their mimic had a completely different experience to someone who one-shot with a spell or ashes of war, who had a different experience to someone who parried with Misericorde, which itself is distinct from someone who simply grabbed a colossal weapon and rolled.
Sure, all of these people succeed in defeating a boss, but each experience was substantially distinct. And for plenty, there's a satisfaction gained from defeating a boss in a certain way that you just won't get utilizing more powerful, and simply unbalanced tools. Spirits as a whole change the experience between two identical builds on their own. It's easiest to see them as an alternative to online coop. Even the jellyfish is capable of drawing aggro, giving you room to perform actions more freely than someone who just wouldn't have without the ally to help. These are clearly substantially different experiences, even if the spirit isn't around the entire fight.
Definitely, use them if you want, I did my playthrough and pulled out Tiche when I just really stop having fun in the DLC, but I know that the experience is different from what could be a better one... or it's just another garbage Elden Ring boss, so might as well just get that "Legend Slain" message and be done with it.
Using "builds", IMO, really just takes away from the intended hitless SL1 experience. Sure, you can nuke bosses with your boosted damage and damage mitigation, but you just aren't going to get the same satisfaction as somebody who played the game blindfolded with the club.
I miss last split where insanity was playing weird stuff. Games were spicy at least and they got a few wins. Here they just look lifeless
karthus might be the lamest champ to watch in the whole game. 1 button and the whole enemy team is poked out of contesting any objective
Can you get Caitlin Clark to stream with y'all?! She's the GOAT
Just in time for bed
I think DL is wrong
i miss fudge :(
Fifth?
Spotify
No views 2 seconds in ? The boys fell off
I hate the way the casters act super hype even when the thing that happened is kinda unimportant or due to a huge, flagrant error on the part of the player that dies. Especially when that error is laziness.
First?!
Don’t try to live longer, try to live better.