When Will Christ Return? (2 Thessalonians

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  • @magsgil8181
    @magsgil8181 10 місяців тому +3

    Best teaching I’ve ever heard

    • @webstercat
      @webstercat 10 місяців тому +1

      I’m with you on that.

  • @FEBC23
    @FEBC23 Рік тому +3

    Excelent explanations! Keep up the great work and study!!!

  • @bobbyallison1228
    @bobbyallison1228 Рік тому +5

    The most telling Scripture concerning the nature of Christ's 2nd and last advent is John 5:17-30. Christ made it clear that HE would exercise the same authority in judgment as the Father. Christ declared that His coming would be just as the Father has done- Jn 5:19

  • @pasnthru7x3
    @pasnthru7x3 6 місяців тому +1

    It's becoming more clear,q that God's word means what it says...
    This is the Gospel ~1Tim 4:10... trust in the living God, Who is the Savior of ALL men SPECIALLY those that believe. (Better to believe) & 1Tim.2:4-6 ...God our Savior, who will have all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth.... To be Testified in DUE TIME.

    • @pasnthru7x3
      @pasnthru7x3 6 місяців тому +1

      Everyone please consider the following verses in regards to the Gospel being Good News~
      Hopefully uncovering another of Satan's big lies ~
      These verses are so often ignored and avoided:
      1Tim. 2:3-6 ~...God our Savior, who will have "ALL" men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth...(to be TESTIFIED in DUE TIME.)
      1Cor.15: 22 ~As in Adam "ALL" die even so in Christ shall "ALL" be made alive.
      Luke 23:34 ~ Then said Jesus, Father forgive them for they know not what they do.
      Isa. 29:24 ~They that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.
      Rom.5:18 ~Therefore as by the offense of one [Adam] judgment came upon "ALL" men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [Jesus Christ] the free gift came upon "ALL" men unto justification of life. [Jesus restored what Adam messed up]
      1Tim.4: 9-11 ~...Trust in the living God, Who is the Savior of "ALL" men "SPECIALLY" those that believe.
      Psalm136:5~To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy endures for ever. × 26ish times
      John 17:2 ~ As thou hast given him power over "ALL" flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.[Jesus is given power over ALL flesh.]
      Col.1:20 ~...by him [Jesus] to reconcile "ALL" things unto himself... things in earth and in heaven.
      Isaiah 19:22 ~And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord.
      1Cor.3:13-15... If any man's works shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
      1John 2:2 ~ And he is the "propitiation (payment) for" our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the "sins of the whole world".
      1Tim. & 1Peter

  • @hayzersolar
    @hayzersolar Рік тому +11

    I've been a full preterist for about 3 years now.what gets me is when JESUS talks about the kingdom he talks about it in a spiritual way.luke 17:20-21, John 18:35-36, 1Cor 15:50. What I don't understand how and why most Christians don't see this.where do they get the physical Kingdom? What verses says it is physical

    • @CTChipmunk
      @CTChipmunk Рік тому +3

      what is rev 21: 2-3 talking about? New Jerusalem hasn't come down yet, neither has Jesus been living among his people. john is describing a city 1500 miles by 1500 miles and goes into great detail about the gates, walls, and even the 12 different types of stones, and how there is no sun or moon to "shine" because God's glory illuminates it. this is a physical city that Jesus is going to dwell in with his people, and it hasn't happened yet.

    • @hayzersolar
      @hayzersolar Рік тому +3

      @@CTChipmunk you are not going to understand but it is all spiritual not physical. Book of revelations is all spiritual. Can't go into great explanation but not physical

    • @CTChipmunk
      @CTChipmunk Рік тому +4

      @@hayzersolar you are right, i don't understand why john would say he saw a city coming down and then take several paragraphs to describe in great physical detail the city of new jerusalem, and even describes THE PHYSICAL DIMENSIONS of the city (1500 miles long and wide). why give such a detailed physical description if it is a spiritual place.
      also, what about acts 1:11? the guy in the vid claims Jesus did not come back physically, but Acts 1:11 says Jesus is going to come back down in like manner as he went up. this is describing a physical return.

    • @hayzersolar
      @hayzersolar Рік тому +3

      @@CTChipmunk let's look at this Jesus is supposed to return in his Kingdom. That means at his s return he established the kingdom. So we all think that the kingdom is physical. But nowhere in scripture does Jesus ever say or Paul ever say that the kingdom is physical. If you go to Luke chapter 17 verses 20 to 25 you see that Jesus says the kingdom is not observable by eyes. John chapter 18 versus 35 and 36 we see hear Jesus stating again that the kingdom is not physical. 1st Corinthians chapter 15 verse we see here Paul says that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom physical. So we have just three verses from God himself saying that the kingdom is spiritual we have Paul himself stating that the kingdom is spiritual so John and a book of Revelation is talking of a spiritual Kingdom not a physical Kingdom. You also have to understand the type of language they are using. Go back to the book of Isaiah and we see the book of Isaiah. This is a descriptive language that is not meant to be taken physical. Here is example of the type of language that is in revelation. Isaiah chapter 34 verse 10 we see here that the smoke should go up forever & ever from generation to generation. We know that is not true because we don't see it. Do not forget it is a Jew riding to a Jew about Jewish things. It has nothing to do with us today. It is a letter written to the seven churches two thousand years. And what is supposed to happen in this book the seven churches was to see it happen.

    • @CTChipmunk
      @CTChipmunk Рік тому +1

      @@hayzersolar all good points and i agree that the kingdom itself isn't physical, but that has nothing to do with Jesus coming back again. Acts 1: 11 is proof they were expecting to see a physical return of Jesus coming back "in like manner". the two men in white said Jesus "will come" again, and I believe he came back in 70AD, and for two reasons. first in judgement (obviously), and secondly, because I think this is also when the "first resurrection" (Rev 20: 5-6) happened. the first resurrection i think are the saints of Rev. this first resurrection is not the same resurrection that Paul wanted to "attain to" (Php 3: 11). paul was trying to comfort his readers that if God raised up Jesus, He will also raise up those who die in Christ. 1 Cor 15: 50-53 is talking about the resurrection of the dead in Christ (this is the same resurrection Paul was "on trial for" Acts 23: 6 & 24: 21). it hasn't happened yet. it is still in our future. The dead in Christ will get resurrected and "we who are alive and remain" will go up and get new immortal bodies. I think this is what Jesus was referring to in Matt 19: 28 when he said, "in the regeneration". also, New Jeru isn't the kingdom. it is an earthly city w/out a temple because Jesus is the physical temple and he is going to "dwell" with the ones who get regenerated in New Jeru. john was writing to 1st century audience of the 7 churches, and they knew of the distant future resurrection. it's why paul went to trial.

  • @eightpoint58
    @eightpoint58 9 місяців тому +2

    What about as you see me go is how he'll will come back that way Acts 1:1-9

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat 10 місяців тому

    To go from storm to “immediate” calm and beautiful weather! That would have been mind blowing.

  • @joshuamorris9630
    @joshuamorris9630 8 місяців тому

    Hebrews 8:12
    12 For I will be merciful toward their iniquities,
    kand I will remember their sins no more.”

  • @josephlent4460
    @josephlent4460 8 місяців тому +1

    So, is he saying that there will not be another coming of Christ in the flesh, every eye shall not see him, there will be no millennial reign, and there will be being changed into His likeness? I like this guys teaching but there seems to be a lot of holes which I am trying to track down and figure out. Any direction is appreciated

  • @T.D.H.Miller-pp6sf
    @T.D.H.Miller-pp6sf 8 місяців тому +1

    What of the Lords prayer? "Your Kingdom come"? Even second Peter 3:10

  • @walkinginthewilderness4339
    @walkinginthewilderness4339 9 місяців тому

    Toby Sumpter is on staff at Christ Church....Doug Wilson's church.... and he also pastors another church.

  • @Bradleymarlin-e7w
    @Bradleymarlin-e7w 7 місяців тому +1

    You quote the historian Josephus alot. What did he say was seen in the sky over Jerusalem during its destruction?

  • @michelhaineault6654
    @michelhaineault6654 10 місяців тому +1

    The resurrection will include all the just and unjust so this is not in 70 ad , we still have Just trough the Justification in Christ and unjust who denies Christ. A-mill is great eschatology.

  • @michael_toms
    @michael_toms Рік тому

    When Will Christ Return? The year 4150AD September 22nd as the sun rises. I am looking forward to the resurrection morning.

  • @KevOlson-jr5ul
    @KevOlson-jr5ul 10 місяців тому

    I partial preterest i seen jesus come in the clouds

  • @jorgeperez9353
    @jorgeperez9353 10 місяців тому +3

    I don't understand if all prophecy was fulfilled on A.d.70
    This wicked world that we are experiencing now is the new earth and new heaven? Or we need to wait for an end or judgment of the whole world? I'm confused

    • @michelhaineault6654
      @michelhaineault6654 10 місяців тому

      yes in the new earth there will be no sins.

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 10 місяців тому +2

      @@michelhaineault6654 No.
      There is *still SIN in New Heaven and earth.*
      Revelation 22:15
      There is also *still DEATH* 💀
      Isaiah 65:20
      It's not a literal NEW Heaven and earth.
      Revelation is 99% *Spiritual.*

    • @michelhaineault6654
      @michelhaineault6654 10 місяців тому

      @@traceya9039 ??? rev.22 15 do not say there is sins in heaven but that all the sinners will not enter in this eternal kingdom. Isaiah do not talk about new earth but about a period of Grace for humanity to come ( trough Jesus) 2 Peter 3 is literal and clearly deny what you say the destruction of this earth BY FIRE will be literal and we are waiting for a new heaven and earth . Milenium symbolise Jesus reign in all is elect and not a future reign of Christ in Jerusalem Jesus reign in Heaven now on is throne and in all is peoples so we are now citizen of the eternal kingdom to come in heaven, the celestial Jerusalem.

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 10 місяців тому +1

      @@michelhaineault6654 Revelation 22:15 is about *THE CITY in NEW heaven and earth*
      *"Blessed are those who wash their robes,so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter THE CITY 👈 by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood."*
      Revelation 22:15
      Jesus Kingdom is already HERE.
      It's INSIDE of us.
      Luke 17:20-221
      He is the Cornerstone.
      His people are LIVING stones.
      (It's not literal. *Jesus told us Himself we can NOT OBSERVE* it with our eyes)
      The destruction of Jerusalem which the *world revolved around back in the OLD Covenant* was destroyed by fire. 🔥
      This earth *endures FOREVER*
      God isn't going to destroy the whole literal earth again. He shows us this by the rainbow that He regretted even doing it before.
      & *Jesus is already REIGNING* 🙌
      He IS God.
      Thats what *THE REVELATION 👈 of Jesus Christ* was about.
      Who He was and what was going to happen to the *7 CHURCHES of Asia that the letters were written TO.*
      *John TO 👈 the seven churches that are in Asia:*
      Revelation 1:4
      Revelation is not even TO us.
      It's the same events as Matthew 24.
      And it happened *TO that generation* 👈
      Matthew 24:34

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 10 місяців тому +1

      @@michelhaineault6654 The real question is why are you looking for a *physical Kingdom of God to come?*
      (when Jesus told us we would not be able to SEE His Kingdom????)
      *"Being asked by the Pharisees WHEN 👈 the kingdom of God would COME, 👈 he answered them, “The kingdom of God is NOT COMING 👈 in ways that can be observed, nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is IN 👈 the midst of you.”*
      Luke 17:20-21
      His Kingdom came.
      Like He said it would. (Spiritually)
      *BEFORE they went through all the towns of Israel.*
      Matthew 10:23

  • @btodd777
    @btodd777 Рік тому +2

    Toby Sumpter has some connection with Doug Wilson. I believe he is a Pastor at Doug’s church

  • @btodd777
    @btodd777 Рік тому +1

    He is listed as an Elder at Doug’s church

  • @BereanFellowshipUS
    @BereanFellowshipUS 6 місяців тому

    Question: if we are living on the New Heaven and the new Earth spoken about in Revelation ... Why do we still have a sea?

    • @tonyabethstevens
      @tonyabethstevens 5 місяців тому

      Because the new heaven and the new earth are not physical- nh / ne means the new covenant- the sea 🌊 represents chaos and fear, and those things are gone once you receive Christ & are living in the new covenant of His Grace. I know this sounds crazy, (I have been where you are, and so has this minister!) but that’s because we’ve been taught the physical kingdom all our lives- if you continue under this teaching, you will begin to see and understand. David gives PLENTY of scripture and lets scripture interpret scripture. I encourage you to pray about it, and listen so that you can make an informed decision about whether this is true. That’s what scripture tells us to do! (Bereans!)

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo Рік тому +3

    Is Matthew 10:23 about 70 AD, or is it about Jesus coming as the King to Israel? The answer is found below in Zech. 9:9. Did Jesus "cometh" as the King of Israel riding on a donkey during the week He was crucified? If Matthew 10:23 is about 70 AD, Peter ignored the commandment given by Jesus in Matthew 10:5-7, when Peter went to the house of Cornelius. It did not take the disciples forty years to take the Gospel to Israel. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period of the Gospel going "first" to Israel is found in Matt. 10:5-23, and Acts chapter 2, and Acts 10:36-38, and Galatians 1:14-18.
    Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
    The Old Covenant age died at Calvary when God ripped the temple veil in half from the top to the bottom at the moment His Son died at Calvary. There is no record in the NT of any person coming to salvation outside of the New Covenant between Calvary and 70 AD. Hebrews 7:12 proves there was a change in the law before 70 AD. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant Church of Mount Zion and the blood of Jesus in Hebrews 12:22-24. This passage was written in the present tense before 70 AD.
    If the Hyper-Preterists were correct the Old Covenant age would come back into existence if a temple were rebuilt, and animal sacrifices are renewed.
    Any basic book on Astronomy proves we are not now living in the "eternal" New Heavens and New Earth, because the sun only has a limited amount of nuclear fuel. We now understand the nuclear reaction inside the core of the sun, because of the testing of thermonuclear weapons.
    ==============================================
    Jesus Foretells Destruction of Jerusalem (subtitles from eSword)
    Luk 21:20  "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 
    (Mat 24:15  "Therefore when you see the 'ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand), 
    (Look at the reference to Hanukkah in John 10:22, if you want to know what the Jews of Jesus time understood about Antiochus Ephiphanes attacking the city during 167 BC, when his forces killed thousands of Jews, and stopped the sacrifices. Those two things also happened during 70AD.)
    Luk 21:21  Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 
    (Mat 24:16  "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.) 
    Luk 21:22  For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 
    Luk 21:23  But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. (See also Luke 23:28-31.) 
    (Mat 24:19  But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! )
    Luk 21:24  And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 
    (Almost all Bible scholars agree that the first part of the verse above is about 70 AD. At the end of the verse we find a period of time known as “the times of the Gentiles”. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, and then to the Greeks (Gentiles). We are now in that time period when the Gospel is being taken to the whole world. Paul also referred to this time period in Romans 11:25, and Acts 28:28. In the verses that follow we find the future Second Coming of Christ. )
    The Coming of the Son of Man
    Luk 21:25  "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 
    (Mat 24:29  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.) 
    Luk 21:26  men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 
    Luk 21:27  Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 
    (Mat 24:30  Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.) 
    Luk 21:28  Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." 
    (Mat 24:33  So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near-at the doors!)

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 11 місяців тому +2

      There was a transition period when the Temple was still standing.
      *Hebrews 9:8-9* 👀
      *THAT AGE 👈 was the OLD Covenant age*
      Then it *passed away* fully with the Temple.
      Hebrews 8:13
      (2 nd exodus of 40 years. Jesus was 30 +40 = 70AD 🔥)

    • @SpotterVideo
      @SpotterVideo 11 місяців тому +1

      @@traceya9039 There is no record in the NT of any person coming to salvation outside of the New Covenant between Calvary and 70 AD.
      Hebrews 7:12, and Hebrews 12:18-24 were written in the present tense before 70 AD. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Sion and the blood of Jesus in Hebrews 12:22-24.

    • @theworldtomorrow3960
      @theworldtomorrow3960 4 місяці тому +1

      I've been struggling to understand the Preterism view of the Bible, some things I agree with, very few, but by and large I think they are dead wrong about the second coming and the rest. I don't see any evidence in the Bible that proves their complete view. They are misinterpreting the passages. They also preach that Jew are pretty much finished, and God is done with them for ever! That sounds like liberation theology?

  • @CTChipmunk
    @CTChipmunk Рік тому +2

    @42:35 if he is not coming back in a physical body then what does Acts 1: 11 mean? "Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." Also what about Rev 21: 3? I don't see Jesus anywhere dwelling with man (yet). Also, where is New Jerusalem that was described in a lot of detail? It's not here yet.

    • @thrifting-mompreneur
      @thrifting-mompreneur Рік тому

      This may help answernyour question... www.bereanbiblechurch.org/transcripts/acts/acts_01_09-11_future-bodily-return.htm

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 11 місяців тому +3

      God is *already dwelling with us* 🥰
      2 Corinthians 16
      And they DID see Jesus.
      Read *the book of the Jewish wars by Josephus*
      Or got to *Revelation Revolution* site and read the historical accounts.
      You are looking carnally.
      For a *PHYSICAL Kingdom of God to come*
      Same thing the Pharisees did.
      Luke 17:20-21

    • @michelhaineault6654
      @michelhaineault6654 10 місяців тому

      @@traceya9039 yes Christ is the king of is kingdom and presently reign in all is elects but this do not mean he will come back in 70 ad in fact he come back at the Pentecost because he dwell in us as the Holy Spirit this is GOD AMONG US , we are God temple. We now experience things who at the end will come plentifully , Jesus will be reveal entirely in is elects AT THE END at THE OMEGA.

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 10 місяців тому

      @@michelhaineault6654 It was the *END of the age* they were speaking of in Scripture.
      There is no END to the earth.
      The *earth endures forever!* 🌎
      (Eccl 1:4, Psa 78:69, 104:5)
      *_World without END_* 👀
      Ephesians 3:21
      Alpha and Omega means *God is eternal.* 🙌
      Unless you think He is going to end? 😂

    • @michelhaineault6654
      @michelhaineault6654 10 місяців тому +1

      @@traceya9039 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. THIS IS DESTROYING YOUR THEORT :) Also in is clearly say THE UNGODLY WILL BE ALL DESTRUCT mmmmm they are everywhere :)

  • @abrahamphilip6439
    @abrahamphilip6439 10 місяців тому +1

    The Abomination of Desolation (Daniel) would usher in tbe Day of the Lord (Joel)

    • @stereotype5868
      @stereotype5868 8 місяців тому +1

      Sign of his coming was the temple being destroyed. All prophecy was fulfilled when the Roman armies surrounded Jerusalem.their house was left desolate.jerusalem was destroyed

  • @duanedahl8856
    @duanedahl8856 Рік тому +9

    Partial Preterist = half Futurist

    • @robinq5511
      @robinq5511 Рік тому +3

      Notice all the part prets claim to be orthodox & reformed yet dispensational? As if having a correct view of eschatology is somehow not also scripture? That is why the warning at the end of Revelation tell the readers not to add or take away from this prophecy - which of course is exactly what they must do to hold fast to their creedal profession which they claim is their true hope...instead of the testimony of Jesus which is the Spirit of prophecy Rev 19:10 in both the OT & NT.
      Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
      Our Blessed Hope is firmly based in the eschatology of all prophecy, therefore it behooves us to learn to discern how it was to be understood by the people to whom it was written for OUR understanding.

    • @bugsocsollie1694
      @bugsocsollie1694 8 місяців тому

      ​@robinq5511 Our blessed hope is not part of Israel's prophecy or their doctrine. Our blessed hope was a mystery, a secret hidden in God since the world began, and revealed first and foremost to Paul for this Dispensation of Grace for the Gentiles.
      That is Paul's doctrine, and it is sound doctrine.
      If Christ already returned to earth, it isn't in Scripture anywhere, so it can not be Biblical doctrine. It can not be sound doctrine. It just more fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

    • @duanedahl8856
      @duanedahl8856 8 місяців тому

      @@bugsocsollie1694 actually, your blessed hope is nowhere in the Bible, because its not about you.
      No one, save Israel, needed salvation for sins committed under the Mosaic covenant.

    • @bugsocsollie1694
      @bugsocsollie1694 8 місяців тому

      @duanedahl8856 Actually, Israel needed to be saved so that they could be the light unto the Gentiles and bless all the families on earth. They don't get their sins forgiven until Christ returns to earth (Acts 3:19) and only those who endure till the end of their 70th week without taking the mark of the beast (1 John 5:16). Then they will get their new covenant.
      But today, under this Dispensation of Grace, we don't need Israel to come to Christ. They have to be saved the same way we are saved: by Grace through faith, which is not part of Israel's prophecy or doctrine. That's why Israel is blinded today, nothing about this Dispensation is covered in their OT Scriptures.

    • @duanedahl8856
      @duanedahl8856 8 місяців тому

      @@bugsocsollie1694 in the New testament context, the Gentiles are non law practicing Israelites, not Pagans...just so we're clear on your error.

  • @1Whipperin
    @1Whipperin Рік тому +1

    Thank you. Toby Sumpter's lies needed exposure.

  • @kevingomez8735
    @kevingomez8735 8 місяців тому

    So what does eternal life look like?

  • @cycribbs
    @cycribbs Рік тому +1

    Not every eye has seen him and not every knee has vowed there are people that still say that Jesus was a dog they don't believe in him at all so not every eye has seen him and not every knee has bowed

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 11 місяців тому

      Every eye isn't literal.
      That's like me saying the whole world has gone nuts when a few people behave badly. 😂
      That's just how they spoke.
      Every eye back then, (same as saying People will see Him) did see Jesus in the clouds above Jerusalem with his angel armies.
      *The book of the Jewish wars by Josephus* tells us about it.
      & He told us He was coming in THEIR lifetimes. repeatedly.
      So if He hadn't then we couldn't trust Him anyway.
      Matthew 10:23
      Matthew 16:28, etc.
      Google *101 Preterist TIME INDICATORS* 👈 and pray about it.
      (101x God told us this all already happened)

    • @stereotype5868
      @stereotype5868 8 місяців тому +2

      Every knee 2000 years ago.not now

    • @cycribbs
      @cycribbs 8 місяців тому

      @@stereotype5868 you need to learn the patterns of the jubilee, and how God uses patterns and set times or mo'edin, seasons.. is patterns all throughout history. He did not end all things on the 4th day, on the 4th thousandth year at the final jubilee, Jesus Christ offered himself as a sacrifice, freeing all the slaves, making redemption. You don't know anything about the great 8th day,

    • @cycribbs
      @cycribbs 8 місяців тому

      @@stereotype5868 and also read 2 Peter 3:3-8, if you read it several times you will see it

    • @cycribbs
      @cycribbs 8 місяців тому

      @@stereotype5868 preterism does not know anything about the spiritual things in the Bible, and they can't even discern it in fleshly eyes, they are the blind leading the blind. And you got to say that Jesus is not going to return but it doesn't even fit his prophetic timeline nor his junilees

  • @haywardhuntsberry7038
    @haywardhuntsberry7038 9 місяців тому

    I’ve never heard this kind of preaching. So where are we eschatology wise?? Are we just waiting for the New Jerusalem??

  • @michelhaineault6654
    @michelhaineault6654 10 місяців тому +2

    Yes 70 ad was God judgement to Israel, the destruction of Jerusalem represent the end of Israel as a nation of God and the destruction of the temple represent THE END OF THE LAW , not the end of the world.

  • @nathanlidgett5688
    @nathanlidgett5688 Рік тому +1

    the strange fire;== only once a year can the high priest enter the holy of holies. that was Aaron; not his sons at that time. they being arrogant (Aarons's sons) were not in that office. Leviticus 10;6 the others they were not to uncover their heads; neither rent your clothes, === unlike Caiaphas Matthew 26;65 when he rents his clothes, now the wrath of G-D was on the people and the priest acknowledged that in Matthew 27;25 Nadab and Abihu went the way of Korah, the keeper of music, that wanted to hold that office. Chen = Shalom

  • @cycribbs
    @cycribbs Рік тому +2

    Another thing that you're not seeing that John wrote the book of Revelation after the fall of Jerusalem by the Romans in 95 ad, and Hosea chapter 6 verse 2 it says after the second day or the second thousand year second Peter 3:11 a thousand years as of a day to God a day to God is as of a thousand years so after the second day he raises us up and on the third day, meaning the day of rest or the thousand Year millennial reign of Jesus Christ where in Zachariah 14 he sets foot back on the Mount of Olives and he splits the Mount of Olives into three directions, a great earthquake, that hasn't happened. Preterist also believe that we're in the eternal kingdom, well in the Bible it says time will be no more at the end, he will put an end to death, people are still dying, he will put an end to suffering people are still suffering, and he will wipe away every tear, people are still praying, so for the printerest to say that Jesus is already come back that we're living in the eternal Kingdom this damnable heresy

    • @keithtauber4153
      @keithtauber4153 10 місяців тому

      I agree. I for the life of me do not get why they think the destruction of Jerusalem has any correlation to the second coming of Jesus and the dead in Christ would rise. How those two are connected is odd. As you said, none of the things in Revelation 21 have come to pass. The earth still has oceans, people still die, cry, suffer, and when pray tell was there a 1,000 year time period where peace reigned on earth? If they think Satan is locked up now boy oh boy. I see Satan increasing his evils now more then at any time. SMH.

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 10 місяців тому +1

      No he didn't bc there was not *still a TEMPLE in 95AD.*
      (see Revelation 11;1)
      *Jesus Himself told His disciples He would COME 👈 when the Temple was destroyed.* 🔥and with the destruction of Jerusalem.
      *Matthew 24:3* 👈
      (read back to verse 1)

    • @cycribbs
      @cycribbs 10 місяців тому

      @@traceya9039 you know John was alive when he saw the vision of Christ coming in His Kingdom. Plagiarism is a Jesuit doctrine, the founder of preterism, Luis De Alcazar was a Jesuit, twisted scripture to make it fit his boldface lie, there were people in his own circle that saw the flaws in his doctrine, they went back to the drawing board and came up with Zionism.. dispensationalism.. and the entire book of Revelation covers the 2000 years of the church age. Isaiah 46:10 he declares the end from the beginning, 6 days he created the Earth everything in it and around it.. 7th day he rested.. he was showing us how long we were going to be here in existence before his return.. from Adam to Jesus was 4000 years or 4 days, 2nd Peter 3:8, from Jesus to now 2000 years or 2 days, then we reign with him for a thousand years whether it's in heaven on Earth whether its spiritual, for a thousand years which is the day of rest

    • @traceya9039
      @traceya9039 9 місяців тому

      @@cycribbs Yes I know John was alive.
      *The TEMPLE was still standing* so of course the *Old Covenant Kingdom* was still there.
      (He measured it in Rev 11:1)
      It *vanished away* 💨 fully with the Temple in 70AD.
      Hebrews 8:13, 9:8-10
      (the *marriage of the Lamb* 👰 wasn't until after the vision when *Jesus "married" the Church*
      God had to get rid of the Harlot of Revelation 17 first, God's Old Covennat wife.
      *The Great (wedding) Supper* 👰 was where the *birds ate the flesh* 🦅 of all the dead from then.
      Revelation 19:17-18
      *Jesus' Kingdom that we are in now is SPIRITUAL*
      Luke 17:20-21
      (It was *AT HAND 👈 2000 years* ago)
      It never ends.
      It will always increase....
      *"Of the increase of his government and of peace, THERE WILL BE NO END..."* 👈
      Isaiah 9:7
      *World without END* 👀
      Ephesians 3:21
      Revealtion is already fulfilled.
      It's the *same events (told w Hyperbolic apocalyptic language/allegory) as Matthew 24* and we all know that was in 70AD.
      I don't especially care to study what man said or did what, though it's interesting so *thanks for sharing*
      *Jesus is my teacher.* 🥰
      1 John 2:27
      I don't even call myself a Preterist per se.
      (though I do know the *Bible is 100% fulfilled Luke 21:22* )
      Ask yourself *why would the world end?*
      (again world without END, the *earth endures forever!* )
      *Hint: there's still SIN in NEW 👈 Heaven and earth.*
      Revelation 22:15
      *Hint: there's still DEATH 💀 in NEW Heaven and earth.*
      Isaiah 65:20
      *Ask Jesus why* 😊

    • @cycribbs
      @cycribbs 9 місяців тому

      @@traceya9039 there's two kingdoms you have the Kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of God, both are referred to in different context. John was still alive before 70 AD, but he didn't write Revelation until after 95 AD. There is a physical coming of Jesus Christ at the end of the 6000 years or 6 days of creation. 7th day of rest or what I believe is the final day of the Lord, where he stands on Mount Zion and splits it into three directions. Acts 1:11 say Haverhill return in like manner as he left, he left from the Mount of Olives into the clouds when he comes back he comes back from the clouds to the mt of Olives.. the predators do not understand Revelation 21 at all

  • @yoshkebenstadapandora1181
    @yoshkebenstadapandora1181 8 місяців тому +1

    Hyper preterism makes the millennium end in AD70. Talking about dumb?

  • @user-yn3nf8lc5h
    @user-yn3nf8lc5h 11 місяців тому +1

    Three and one half days after the two witnesses are slain and lay in the street

    • @dannyg2311
      @dannyg2311 7 місяців тому +2

      3.5 days is symbolic for 3.5 years. A day for a year.
      The 2 witnesses are the 2 olive trees Rev 11 says. Romans 11:16-17 & Jeremiah 11:16-17 KJV tell you grafted in gentiles are the wild olive tree and the physical Jews are the natural olive tree.
      The FELLOWSHIP of the mystery. Fellowheirs to the promise by faith and children of Abraham.
      These 2 groups make up ‘Christians’ and would be spiritually resurrected at the end of the 3.5 year (42 month) great tribulation at the end of the 70th week in 70 AD when ALL was fulfilled at the climax of the days of vengeance.

  • @spitfire577
    @spitfire577 9 місяців тому

    So I guess this earth is hell and this is it ? There's nothing to wait for nothing but sorrows and the new world order?

  • @CountItJoy140
    @CountItJoy140 11 місяців тому

    On an On this contensiousness between Christians do so much harm!

    • @webstercat
      @webstercat 10 місяців тому +2

      Not for me. I’m 75, served in ministry. Amazing teaching…harms no one..