Great video. I've got the EF 85mm f1.4 (+EOS R6) and cannot be happier with the photos taken with it. RF 85mm f1.2 is a bit better but I still can't justify replacement of my EF 85 1.4 as I mainly use it taking photos of my two daughters. By the way your daughter has a great smile.
Dude thank you so much, almost bought the RF, glad to see the only person who can tell is someone who works in the industry with maybe 20+ years experience
Hey Cody! Sorry for the slow time to respond. I had to take a break from UA-cam as I was super busy with photoshoots and family life. Thanks so much for the kind comment! Glad it was helpful. I know for me, it just helps seeing things side by side so I can decide what is important to me. All the best!
@@ShaneLongPhotography welcome, I love my sigma. I wish I could say I’m busy with photography. I’m learning by UA-cam but been so tied by work that I can’t get out and work with my equipment. Hope to be busy like you though
My bias is towards the f1.4 is. Why, well portraits can be so sharp that people don't like seeing their wrinkles, veins and pores. Also the image stabilization holding at 1/2 looked great and therefore reducing ISO in low light is attractive to reduce noise and graininess . You said the AF speed on the two lenses is comparable, I don't shoot sports and since I also own a Sony A9 that can shoot electronic at 1/30000 sec. I would grab it for such subjects. Bokeh on both is very good and I only notice differences in bokeh in Christmas lights cats eye effect. Given the price difference I will pick the slower image stabilized lens
Brilliant Review Shane! Your style in video is like your style in photos: Some glamour and shinyness, but a lot of substance and a certain no-nonsense approach. It's amazing how you can draw from use cases all over the spectrum in your professional work in such a review. Well done! This channel deserves more views.
The best video I've seen about this lens. Brilliant stuff. I love the fact that you did your side by side comparison shots so accurately. I'm looking forward to going through the rest of your videos. Your weddings shots are particularly beautiful! Well done. You have a new fan, Sir!
Hello! Sorry for the slow time to respond. I had to take a break from UA-cam as I was super busy with photoshoots and family life. Glad it was helpful! Really appreciate the kind words! I try really hard to make videos in a way I would want to watch myself with the info I would want. Thanks so much for following along!
I just found your channel and i love your work, colors, and energy! I instantly sub'd and I look forward to more of your videos! I will be using your shots as a benchmark that i will aim for. Cheers.
Hey thanks!!! That means so much! Really appreciate you following along! Photography is a journey and I just try to learn something from each press of the shutter button. All the best!
Thank you for the information I was really on the fence about this but now I just jumped off and going to buy this lens. THank you for the clear reasons for this lens.
you all probably dont give a shit but does anyone know of a way to get back into an instagram account? I was dumb forgot my login password. I love any tricks you can give me!
@Jesse Kendrick i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im in the hacking process now. Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
Thanks! I hope to get my hands on that lens eventually! I am currently still using the EF 135 but down the road will probably upgrade to the RF 135 and hope to make a video sharing my thoughts!
love love love your posts XXXXXX But after following you I have now to date spent £15,000 + on the EOS R5 accessories and various lenses. Please stop smiling in your videos as it is so contagious.
First off, those wedding shots in the beginning are magical! I hope you got paid really well :) Secondly, thanks for this review, super useful! I just got the RF 85 but my R5 is at the workshop right now. This video got me really eager to try it out. And finally, that super awesome little girl you took these amazing photos of has got to be the most charming 'subject' ever! :D Happy new year!
You're the best! Thank you SO much for the thoughtful and kind review!! Hope you have gotten your R5 back and are making all kinds of beautiful photos with the 85 1.2! All the best!
incredible nice shots. very detailed and helpful analysis. I am still waiting for my R5 body which hopefully will arrive next week. You convinced me to test this lens at least !!!! best regards from Germany
Hi Shane! Just saw your video and I wanted to say how amazingly positive you come across, it seems natural and easy for you, though not for many. Also your work looks stunning and the video was very informative. Many thanks for posting this. I have of course subscribed and liked. Dan
Thank you so much Daniel! That truly means so much. My joy comes from Jesus! He has made all the difference in my life! Really appreciate you following along! All the best in your photo adventures!
@@ShaneLongPhotography You are welcome. Your joy certainly shines through in your video. I ordered this lens after seeing your video. Take care and keep on shining.
Shane, great videos man. I just started following you few days ago and have been watching your very informative videos. I've ordered R5 and now it's waiting game. Can't wait honently. I'll be using my EF lenses with EF to RF Adapter. Then eventually transition into RF lenses. Keep the great videos coming, great job man.
Thanks so much Jamshed! Glad the videos have been helpful! You are going to LOVE the R5. It is a joy to shoot with. Your EF lenses will work great with the adapters. Have fun!!!
The sharpness while moving is absolutely incredible. Are you able to achieve something similar with the EF 85 1.4? This is much more in budget for me but I take a lot of animal photography and movement is a big factor in my photography, but I’m still looking for the gorgeous bokeh
Love the EF 85 1.4. Sadly the AF couldn't keep up like the RF 1.2 which is one of the reasons I sold it. That said, I loved the look of the photos the 1.4 had. Kind of miss it actually.
thanks for an open look at the RF85 to the EF85 . there is one point that people forget if you have a mixed lens set up EF and RF this gave me problems when changing lenses in the field going back and forth just to 2 lenses is ok as I just kept the adaptor on the EF , but going through 3 lens or more is a pain as I went from EF to RF and then EF but the adaptor was still on the other EF. was looking at getting some more adaptors as that would be the cheapest option, but thought Native would work better so saving up. first on the list RF28-70 F2 :) the RF85 F1.2 is on the list but just a little down it
You are spot on! I ran into the same problem. Having all EF lenses is great, or having all RF lenses, but having a mix can be really frustrating. I started with the EF but quickly moved over to the RF lenses as I got tired of the adapters as the quality is so much higher with the RF lenses. Great point!
Don’t forget there is also the DS version which also has the benefit of „loosing“ a bit light, which can actually be a positive if you are shooting at daylight wide open
Just used natural light! I think I was using the R5 with the 15-35 for the opening shot... other than that just iMovie :) Sorry I know thats not a lot of help! Video is not my expertise!
Amazing content ! What is you favourite lens or tinity lens setup for wedding photography ? I currently have 2 r6 mk2 and ef 35 1.4 II and 85 f1.4 is , just sold the 70-200 2.8 2.8 III for the rf , and also sold the 16-35 f4 is for 14-35 instead , so i don t know if to keep the 35 and 85 or sell it and what to buy instead :D thank you
Oh man those are great lenses! Truthfully I think I would just stick with those lenses. They are amazing and I kind of miss the look they produce. I use the RF 35 1.8, RF 50 1.2, and RF 85 1.2 most at weddings. Happy shooting!
Are you using continuous AF and Servo AF during live-view shooting? What about video? (I have an R5C so video is different) Awesome review and makes me want to buy this lens. (I have the RF 50 f/1.2)
sensational, I love your videos. I have the r5 and honestly here in Brazil rf lenses cost more than twice as much as ef lenses. i'm loving the 35mm 1.4 and now i'm getting the 85mm 1.4, especially after your videos
Thank you so much!! I owe the color accuracy to my wife who does my editing for me! Wish I could send the preset but its discontinued and we modified it :( All the best!!
This video is seriously GAS-inducing! My wallet is shaking in fear. I got my R5 last week with a 24-105mm F4 lens, now you really got me thinking about getting this lens, but damn it's expensive. Love your content and enthusiasm, subscribed.
Hahaha!!! Such a great comment :) The lens is super fun. The RF 85 f/2 is also produces great images and is a lot easier on the wallet ;) Thanks for subscribing!!!
A lot of people like to talk about sharpness, but the 1.2 pics, through blind testing, consistently make me feel something I can’t with the 1.4 - and I’m nowhere near professional. The 1.2 just has that look for this genre of photography; ultimately, isn’t this art about what the pictures make you feel?
so in conclusion, it's really not much different between the 2 lens, if you need to do post process on your image, these minor differences are basically nothing. Also, the image stablization is a big plus for the EF , the price different is huge consider how little different these 2 lesn are. Check the price between 16-35mm ef and 15-35mm rf, the price different is very small, and the perfromance is almost the same. So in conclusion the EF 85mm f1.4 is a lot better option since nobody is gonna to notice the minor different of background if you object looks good enough.
Hello Leon! Yep they are similar! No client will probably ever notice. For me half the fun is the gear and looking at the images and noticing the minute details, and have a mix of adapted lenses and RF lenses when I am rapidly changing lenses on a wedding day got to be too cumbersome. So it was worth it for me, but it won't be for everyone! But yes the EF 16-35 and the EF 85 1.4 are incredible lenses for the price! All the best!
Great comparison. 1.2 is fantastic, but for me, amateur, too expensive... 😞 This is sad, that Canon offers only entry level glasses and extra expensive glasses. There is nothing for advanced amateurs.
@@ShaneLongPhotography I've bought the lens by the way. Used it on a few shoots and I'm really impressed. It seems a little slower than the 1.4 on adapter, but more accurate somehow. :)
Thanks for the extremely detailed review of this lens. I'm wondering how the Sigma 84 1.4 art lens will work on the R5. I just ordered and there's such a long wait. Can't find any reviews of the R5 and Sigma 85 1.4 art EF version.
I am sure it does great! I owned the Sigma 85 1.4 Art at one point, and it was a terrific lens. Having the IBIS of the R5 would be fantastic with that lens. I think the only con would be the size with the needed adapter. But for the price, that lens is amazing.
Just be aware that some features may be missing when using an EF lens and that many RF third party lenses are actually still just an EF lens with an RF mount. Not to forget other cons like updates requiring an extra adapter, and other things. There are more differences between first and third party lenses which people should be aware of but I guess most of them are already discussed in the relevant forums
Really appreciate this. Well done! Maybe I missed it, but did you compare the stabilization of the RF (with only IBIS) to the EF (with combined lens IS and IBIS)?
Thanks Paul! Later in the video I go over it. I don't do a direct comparison, but I show the shutter speeds I was able to take with the RF version. I was able to take hand held photos at 1/2 second exposures. I wasn't able to get as good of results with the EF version with the IS and the IBIS.
would like to see a comparison of canon EF 85mm F1.4 vs the new RF 85mm F2! Im torn in between these 2 as the 85mm 1.2 is out of my price range. should i spend the extra money for the EF 1.4 or go for the new RF f2.0? would like your thoughts on this
Thank you Matthew! I have a had few others ask for a review of the RF 85 f/2. Unfortunately, I don't own a copy of it, so I will have to find another way to get a copy of it! Looks to be a great lens though! If you want macro and don't like adapters, I would go with the RF f/2. If you like extra blurry backgrounds, go with the EF 1.4. Hope that helps!
That would be a great comparison! Unfortunately I don't own either of those lenses. Maybe I can get my hands on a friend's version sometime! All the best!
Hi Shane. I know it’s not really your area, but I photograph fast moving dog sports sometimes and do you think the older 85mm f 1.4L on the canon R6 with the eye detection would be the better choice for autofocus speed alone? Or do you think if I have the extra money, the RF lens autofocus would be better or similar? I am trying to save money. I used to use the older 85mm f 1.2 and I know both lenses are an upgrade to that, but I’m curious how the speed compares? Thanks!
Hello Gary! How fun to photograph fast moving dogs! Great question! Hmmm. Though I no longer have the EF 85 1.4, when I did have it the AF speed seemed quite similar, though at times it didn't feel quite at accurate when adapted as the RF 85 1.2 . And that isn't from a technical lab test, that was just my experience. I think with the extra contact points Canon just has these new lenses really focusing fast. But that also could have just been that the RF is a little bit sharper. The RF lenses are really fast focusing, but they also cost more... Not sure if that helps. Kind of also depends on how much you use the lens. Honestly, there are times where I wonder if I should just downgrade and get the RF 85 f/2 because I use the 50mm focal length in my work so much. All the best!
@@ShaneLongPhotography thanks Shane! I don’t make a big living off of the dog sports, though I used to love my old 85mm f 1.2 EF lens. The look was out of this world, despite the terrible autofocus. I don’t think I can justify the cost at this time for the RF 85 1.2. Do you think that extra stop makes a huge background blur difference for the dogs? I guess it depends how clean my background is also. I’ll have to look at your video again to see. Thanks man
I don't think the extra stop would make any difference when photographing the dogs. 1.4 makes plenty of background blur. I would try the EF 85 first and if you are disappointed, return it and save up!
Thanks for doing this video! I just received my RF 85MM f/2 MACRO IS a couple days ago. I really want the f/1.2L and will probably get that next year if COVID goes away and weddings pick up again. If I had to make it through a whole wedding with just two prime lenses it would be the 35mm and an 85mm. I have both in the RF MACRO IS versions, and will likely upgrade to the L versions in the future.
Hey Jared! 35/85 is an incredible combo! I used my 35 during the cocktail hour the other night and it was amazing. No doubt that 85 f/2 is a great lens too! Such a value. All the best!
@@patlezinc Oh, yeah, the r5 wins obviously. But I'm curioys for the comparsion of the af tracking(eye+face+etc.) between the R and R5/R6 since the price is a huge difference. I'm looking to upgrade from my 6D, not sure if I go with the R + a lens or R6 body only
Vinicius Vieira lets wait some direct comparison. On my side, I did not trust R for fast action tracking. With the R5, which is 2 or 3 times faster, I am very confident ;)
Love the rf 85. But I couldn't turn down the chance for f1.4 for a 3rd of the price with the Samyang. Cant afford the 1.2. After updating the Samyang firmware, it works great on my R6. Watched the Video to drool over 1.2 bokeh
Great video.. got me thinking about this RF 85 f1.2 again. Currently I am using R5 with RF 15-35, RF 35 f1.8, RF 50 f1.2 and RF 70-200 f2.8. I shoot mostly indoor gymnastics and portraits. Have been wondering what’s the next lens i should get, the RF 85 f1.2 or the RF24-70?
Hello! You have a great kit going! Tough call on which to get next... With the lenses you already own, you basically have the 24-70 focal length covered, so the 85 might not be a bad choice. Especially if you do portraits!
@@ShaneLongPhotography what do you think about the RF 28-70 f2 lens that everybody is talking about? They say it’s the best lens for weddings because of the f2 Aperture for a Zoom lens and it shoots like a prime so it’s more versatile. Would you consider doing a video for that lens?
Is the RF 85 macro a better choice than the EF 85 1.4 or even the EF 85 1.2? I'm just starting into photography, for now, I can't see myself spending all that money on the new RF 85 1.2... Thank you.
If you are just starting out, I would get the RF 85 1.8 macro. It will give you great background blur and the bonus of macro. 85mm is great for portraits! That will allow you to build a bigger lens kit. All the best!
Beautiful photos. I love the bokeh. Thank you for showing such a great detailed review. I am getting back into the photography game. I have rented the 5D mark IV and 6D mark II. I have the EF 50 1.4. I’m thinking going eos R and maybe springing for the RF 50. I will do portraits and hopefully get into weddings and quinceñeras.
EF 50 1.4 compared to RF 50 1.2? There is not just one class between, it is more like a universe in difference. (owning the 1.4 for roughly 30 years and one hour of shooting time with the RF 1.2)
Useful video thanks, I just purchased the R5. I only shoot occasional portraits and can't really justify paying premium on the RF 1.2, how useable would you say the EF 1.4 version is wide open? is it really that soft? I purchased the Samyang RF 85mm 1.4, but it was really dissapointing, so It got sent back. Cheers
The EF 85 1.4 is 100% useful wide open! I highly recommend it. The RF is perfect wide open but the EF is still fantastic. You can view review of that lens here: ua-cam.com/video/wKofvJNDYzs/v-deo.html
Still love coming back to your videos even long after buying some of the same equipment! I’m a happy owner of the RF 85 1.2 the 50 1.2, also the old EF 135 F2, I wondered have you considered trying out the new 135 1.8? For my style of individual portraits I almost like what the 135 f2 does better than the RF 85 1.2, it’s got some chromatic aberrations and not quite as sharp, but perhaps it’s the extra compression and the focal length being more to my liking. I love how good the 135 f2 is for the money so it’s hard to justify splashing out on the new one! Best wishes from Scotland!
From what I understand here, a 70-200 f/2.8 would be perfect for you. And it doesn't have to be the RF version. Because the EF 70-200 f2.8L IS III version has a higher build quality than the RF and has the same optical quality. But if weight is an issue, then go RF.
@@michelecintramika8482 I actually own the RF version and it’s fantastic! I’ve just become a dad in the past week so no more unnecessary splashing out on top tier lenses for me, but might consider swapping my 85 for 135 if I felt so inclined!
Congrats man!! Sorry for the slow reply. Been too busy around here. I would love to swap out my 135 for the RF 135. Just waiting for the price to drop a lot as I mostly just use that lens for ceremonies and receptions. But yeah I agree with all that you said!
Good question! The 85 1.4 is a great lens! If you are happy with it, keep going! For me swapping lenses all day at weddings with some with adapters and some without, it got to be a mess, so I made the switch to virtually all RF glass now. Hope that helps!
Great question! Really depends on what you are shooting! They all have very different purposes. The 85 is for portraits, headshots, low light situations. I wouldn't say any of those lenses are a direct replacement for the 85. My wedding kit is the 15-35, 35 1.8, 50 1.2, 85 1.2, EF 135. But everyone shoots differently! If I were you, I would first look at adding the RF 50mm 1.2.
Great question. For me no. I like that the non DS version has larger bokeh and that it lets in more light. But others will like the more smooth rendering of the bokeh! Total preference.
@@ShaneLongPhotography With a photographer as good as you are, I'd love to see a comparison in real world imagery as you did here. Really wonderful images, and you look great as well in the first images tests for bokeh.
Do'nt really care about the "size" of the bokey, but the RF is so much smoother. The EF looks "busy". 1.2 you are a legit 3d cut out from the background.
Great vido presentation. It would have been more interesting to see you demo the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 L USM DS (Defocus Smoothing for optimum Bokeh) and very expensive at $3K. I have the Canon R3 and lens adapters, and I get great results on a Sigma 85mm 1.4 at about 1/3rd the price and the raved ultimate sharp Canon EF 135mm f 2.0. Today, we find software apps that can enhance/simulate great bokeh and clients will not know the difference, in fact, most clients never heard of the term bokeh. Haha
Great suggestion! I don't own the DS version but I bet it would be fun to see how it compares. Bet you love that R3. Someday I would enjoy trying out an R3.
Great video. I've got the EF 85mm f1.4 (+EOS R6) and cannot be happier with the photos taken with it. RF 85mm f1.2 is a bit better but I still can't justify replacement of my EF 85 1.4 as I mainly use it taking photos of my two daughters. By the way your daughter has a great smile.
Yeah, stick with that 85 1.4. Such great lens. I actually kind of miss it sometimes!
Nice test, thanks. I have this combo (R5+85RF1.2) and it is my favorite lens of all time I must admit. This lens is a gem
Thanks Patrick! Isn't it just a dream lens?!
Dude thank you so much, almost bought the RF, glad to see the only person who can tell is someone who works in the industry with maybe 20+ years experience
Hey Cody! Sorry for the slow time to respond. I had to take a break from UA-cam as I was super busy with photoshoots and family life. Thanks so much for the kind comment! Glad it was helpful. I know for me, it just helps seeing things side by side so I can decide what is important to me. All the best!
@@ShaneLongPhotography welcome, I love my sigma. I wish I could say I’m busy with photography. I’m learning by UA-cam but been so tied by work that I can’t get out and work with my equipment. Hope to be busy like you though
My bias is towards the f1.4 is. Why, well portraits can be so sharp that people
don't like seeing their wrinkles, veins and pores. Also the image stabilization holding
at 1/2 looked great and therefore reducing ISO in low light is attractive to reduce noise and
graininess . You said the AF speed on the two lenses is comparable, I don't shoot
sports and since I also own a Sony A9 that can shoot electronic at 1/30000 sec.
I would grab it for such subjects. Bokeh on both is very good and I only notice differences
in bokeh in Christmas lights cats eye effect. Given the price difference I will pick the
slower image stabilized lens
The 85 1.4 is an amazing lens! I miss it sometimes!
Brilliant Review Shane! Your style in video is like your style in photos: Some glamour and shinyness, but a lot of substance and a certain no-nonsense approach. It's amazing how you can draw from use cases all over the spectrum in your professional work in such a review. Well done! This channel deserves more views.
Wow! Thanks so much! That's my goal is just to share from my experience using the gear! Glad it was helpful!
The best video I've seen about this lens. Brilliant stuff. I love the fact that you did your side by side comparison shots so accurately. I'm looking forward to going through the rest of your videos. Your weddings shots are particularly beautiful! Well done. You have a new fan, Sir!
Hello! Sorry for the slow time to respond. I had to take a break from UA-cam as I was super busy with photoshoots and family life. Glad it was helpful! Really appreciate the kind words! I try really hard to make videos in a way I would want to watch myself with the info I would want. Thanks so much for following along!
I just found your channel and i love your work, colors, and energy! I instantly sub'd and I look forward to more of your videos! I will be using your shots as a benchmark that i will aim for. Cheers.
Hey thanks!!! That means so much! Really appreciate you following along! Photography is a journey and I just try to learn something from each press of the shutter button. All the best!
Great photos Shane.After watching this video I dont know how many times,I have finely pulled the plug and ordered this lens.Thanks for a great review.
Thank you! Glad the videos are helpful!
Thank you for the information I was really on the fence about this but now I just jumped off and going to buy this lens. THank you for the clear reasons for this lens.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the kind comment!
I just stumbled across your work! Absolutely amazing! I love the colors you get. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the kind comment!!!
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I was dumb forgot my login password. I love any tricks you can give me!
@Billy Dominic instablaster ;)
@Jesse Kendrick i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im in the hacking process now.
Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Jesse Kendrick it worked and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy!
Thank you so much you saved my account :D
Your video made me go out today and buy this lens! I’m excited to use it on shoots this weekend!
Nice!! How are you liking it??
this is the best review on the internet of this lens, Period! Thanks :)
Wow, thanks! I was hoping it would be helpful for everyone!!
Happy to discover your channel! These videos are so helpful! Thank you Shane!
I appreciate you following along! And glad the videos are helpful. I hope to have more coming soon!
Love your all your wedding shots. It's so beautiful!
Thank you so much!! Really appreciate that!
This guy doesn’t miss. Another excellent review.
I appreciate that so much!! Thanks for taking the time to write a kind comment!
Are you gonna make a video for the RF 135mm f1.8 soon? I very appreciate your effort while making detail reviews of canon lenses.
Thanks! I hope to get my hands on that lens eventually! I am currently still using the EF 135 but down the road will probably upgrade to the RF 135 and hope to make a video sharing my thoughts!
love love love your posts XXXXXX But after following you I have now to date spent £15,000 + on the EOS R5 accessories and various lenses. Please stop smiling in your videos as it is so contagious.
hahaha! Be careful with that credit card! I will frown in all my upcoming videos so that you don't spend any more money >:(
First off, those wedding shots in the beginning are magical! I hope you got paid really well :) Secondly, thanks for this review, super useful! I just got the RF 85 but my R5 is at the workshop right now. This video got me really eager to try it out. And finally, that super awesome little girl you took these amazing photos of has got to be the most charming 'subject' ever! :D Happy new year!
You're the best! Thank you SO much for the thoughtful and kind review!! Hope you have gotten your R5 back and are making all kinds of beautiful photos with the 85 1.2! All the best!
incredible nice shots. very detailed and helpful analysis. I am still waiting for my R5 body which hopefully will arrive next week. You convinced me to test this lens at least !!!! best regards from Germany
Thank you so much! It has been a really fun lens! Hope your R5 comes soon! It is such a fun camera :)
Hi Shane!
Just saw your video and I wanted to say how amazingly positive you come across, it seems natural and easy for you, though not for many. Also your work looks stunning and the video was very informative.
Many thanks for posting this. I have of course subscribed and liked.
Dan
Thank you so much Daniel! That truly means so much. My joy comes from Jesus! He has made all the difference in my life! Really appreciate you following along! All the best in your photo adventures!
@@ShaneLongPhotography You are welcome. Your joy certainly shines through in your video. I ordered this lens after seeing your video. Take care and keep on shining.
Beautiful wedding shots, and great review!
Thanks a ton!
Thank you so much!! Now I now my Next lens to purchase!!! Awesome videos!!
It is a crazy lens! The photos are incredible. Really appreciate you watching!
Thanks for the review and for the great tests!
You have amazing photos!
P.S. Today I decided and ordered this magic glass for myself. 😁
Nice!! How are you liking it??
Shane, great videos man. I just started following you few days ago and have been watching your very informative videos. I've ordered R5 and now it's waiting game. Can't wait honently. I'll be using my EF lenses with EF to RF Adapter. Then eventually transition into RF lenses. Keep the great videos coming, great job man.
Thanks so much Jamshed! Glad the videos have been helpful! You are going to LOVE the R5. It is a joy to shoot with. Your EF lenses will work great with the adapters. Have fun!!!
The sharpness while moving is absolutely incredible. Are you able to achieve something similar with the EF 85 1.4? This is much more in budget for me but I take a lot of animal photography and movement is a big factor in my photography, but I’m still looking for the gorgeous bokeh
Love the EF 85 1.4. Sadly the AF couldn't keep up like the RF 1.2 which is one of the reasons I sold it. That said, I loved the look of the photos the 1.4 had. Kind of miss it actually.
Great content...thanks for sharing your thoughts..
Thanks man!
Lovely photography and great review on this lens! Thank you!
Thank you so much for the kind comment! Glad you enjoyed it!
It's easy to know which is the RF lens. Look at the head size instead of the bokeh. The head, body, and everything are always larger on the RF lens.
Yeah there is a definite focal length difference!
Having the 85 1.4, This is very helpful. Thanks Shane
Glad to hear it! All the best!
I have had this lens for 2 years now too, the best lens in my kit and I have got many L and sony, by far the sharpest money maker lens.
Isn't it amazing?! Been using it a lot lately. Photos are always magical!
Excellent Video. You should be getting a lot more views and subscribers.
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
@@ShaneLongPhotography ❤
thanks for an open look at the RF85 to the EF85 . there is one point that people forget if you have a mixed lens set up EF and RF this gave me problems when changing lenses in the field going back and forth just to 2 lenses is ok as I just kept the adaptor on the EF , but going through 3 lens or more is a pain as I went from EF to RF and then EF but the adaptor was still on the other EF. was looking at getting some more adaptors as that would be the cheapest option, but thought Native would work better so saving up. first on the list RF28-70 F2 :) the RF85 F1.2 is on the list but just a little down it
You are spot on! I ran into the same problem. Having all EF lenses is great, or having all RF lenses, but having a mix can be really frustrating. I started with the EF but quickly moved over to the RF lenses as I got tired of the adapters as the quality is so much higher with the RF lenses. Great point!
Thanks for this video. It only increased my expectations for the my own RF 85 1.2 lens. Now if only the R5 camera would get here.
Hope it arrives soon for you! I bet it has been such a long wait!
Don’t forget there is also the DS version which also has the benefit of „loosing“ a bit light, which can actually be a positive if you are shooting at daylight wide open
Care to share your video and lighting setup you used for your review? (Camera/lens/lights and codecs, etc) Looks amazing. Thanks.
Just used natural light! I think I was using the R5 with the 15-35 for the opening shot... other than that just iMovie :) Sorry I know thats not a lot of help! Video is not my expertise!
Such vibrant photos. Great job 👏🏼
Thank you! Glad you like them!
Thanks for the video. Love you work, it is stunning. Do you think, for an amateur, it is worth buying this lens, or is for pros only?
If you have the money, it's fun. If not, the 85 f2 is a great option!
Soo happy you made this. Waiting for mine to come in!
You are going to love it!
Oh my goodness I want this camera and lens.
It is a pretty amazing crazy lens. But you can make amazing photos with any 85mm!
I rarely shoot wide open, I'd consider the EF 85 1.4L IS if I can get it at an even better price than full. Though it's still $1000 less expensive.
Love the EF 85 1.4. Such a great lens!
Amazing content ! What is you favourite lens or tinity lens setup for wedding photography ? I currently have 2 r6 mk2 and ef 35 1.4 II and 85 f1.4 is , just sold the 70-200 2.8 2.8 III for the rf , and also sold the 16-35 f4 is for 14-35 instead , so i don t know if to keep the 35 and 85 or sell it and what to buy instead :D thank you
Oh man those are great lenses! Truthfully I think I would just stick with those lenses. They are amazing and I kind of miss the look they produce. I use the RF 35 1.8, RF 50 1.2, and RF 85 1.2 most at weddings. Happy shooting!
Are you using continuous AF and Servo AF during live-view shooting? What about video? (I have an R5C so video is different) Awesome review and makes me want to buy this lens. (I have the RF 50 f/1.2)
Thanks! I think I was using the video servo AF so it would just keep me in focus continually. Bet you love that R5C!
sensational, I love your videos. I have the r5 and honestly here in Brazil rf lenses cost more than twice as much as ef lenses. i'm loving the 35mm 1.4 and now i'm getting the 85mm 1.4, especially after your videos
Glad you like them! Thanks so much for watching! That 35 1.4 and 85 1.4 are incredible lenses!!!
Great review - pretty much cemented my decision to get the lens!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you for this comparison! It is has definitely helped me in my decision-making process.
You bet! All the best!
Shane, great photos!!! I have never had so pleaser colors with my R5. Can you share the link to preset that you used? Thanks a lot!
Thank you so much!! I owe the color accuracy to my wife who does my editing for me! Wish I could send the preset but its discontinued and we modified it :( All the best!!
Excellent presentation. I love your weding preset. would you sell? 😊
Thanks! Sadly I don't sell my preset :)
This video is seriously GAS-inducing! My wallet is shaking in fear.
I got my R5 last week with a 24-105mm F4 lens, now you really got me thinking about getting this lens, but damn it's expensive.
Love your content and enthusiasm, subscribed.
Hahaha!!! Such a great comment :) The lens is super fun. The RF 85 f/2 is also produces great images and is a lot easier on the wallet ;) Thanks for subscribing!!!
A lot of people like to talk about sharpness, but the 1.2 pics, through blind testing, consistently make me feel something I can’t with the 1.4 - and I’m nowhere near professional. The 1.2 just has that look for this genre of photography; ultimately, isn’t this art about what the pictures make you feel?
My big question is the Canon 85mm f1.2 or the Sigma 105mm f1.4 for half the price of Canon.
Tough decision! What did you go with??
Hi Shane , what is your lens that your shooting this video ?
Thank you for your great video 👍💪🏻
You are welcome! Thanks for watching! I used the RF 15-35 2.8 in for a lot of this video. Hope that helps!
Love those sweet autumn backgrounds!
Me too! However, we just got a record breaking snow and now everything is covered!
so in conclusion, it's really not much different between the 2 lens, if you need to do post process on your image, these minor differences are basically nothing. Also, the image stablization is a big plus for the EF , the price different is huge consider how little different these 2 lesn are. Check the price between 16-35mm ef and 15-35mm rf, the price different is very small, and the perfromance is almost the same. So in conclusion the EF 85mm f1.4 is a lot better option since nobody is gonna to notice the minor different of background if you object looks good enough.
Hello Leon! Yep they are similar! No client will probably ever notice. For me half the fun is the gear and looking at the images and noticing the minute details, and have a mix of adapted lenses and RF lenses when I am rapidly changing lenses on a wedding day got to be too cumbersome. So it was worth it for me, but it won't be for everyone! But yes the EF 16-35 and the EF 85 1.4 are incredible lenses for the price! All the best!
Great comparison. 1.2 is fantastic, but for me, amateur, too expensive... 😞 This is sad, that Canon offers only entry level glasses and extra expensive glasses. There is nothing for advanced amateurs.
Thanks! I think they will continue to build their RF lineup with more options for more budgets!
Great video. Very nice comparison. Loved the real world examples, much more useful than a technical analysis. Thanks! :)
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for the kind comment!!
@@ShaneLongPhotography I've bought the lens by the way. Used it on a few shoots and I'm really impressed. It seems a little slower than the 1.4 on adapter, but more accurate somehow. :)
Thanks for the extremely detailed review of this lens. I'm wondering how the Sigma 84 1.4 art lens will work on the R5. I just ordered and there's such a long wait. Can't find any reviews of the R5 and Sigma 85 1.4 art EF version.
I am sure it does great! I owned the Sigma 85 1.4 Art at one point, and it was a terrific lens. Having the IBIS of the R5 would be fantastic with that lens. I think the only con would be the size with the needed adapter. But for the price, that lens is amazing.
Just be aware that some features may be missing when using an EF lens and that many RF third party lenses are actually still just an EF lens with an RF mount. Not to forget other cons like updates requiring an extra adapter, and other things. There are more differences between first and third party lenses which people should be aware of but I guess most of them are already discussed in the relevant forums
Dream lens, dream pics, dream review....Thx.
You bet! Thank you so much for the king comment Marc!
Oh wow! I am amazed ... amazing camera, amazing!
Its pretty fun :)
Really appreciate this. Well done! Maybe I missed it, but did you compare the stabilization of the RF (with only IBIS) to the EF (with combined lens IS and IBIS)?
Thanks Paul! Later in the video I go over it. I don't do a direct comparison, but I show the shutter speeds I was able to take with the RF version. I was able to take hand held photos at 1/2 second exposures. I wasn't able to get as good of results with the EF version with the IS and the IBIS.
would like to see a comparison of canon EF 85mm F1.4 vs the new RF 85mm F2! Im torn in between these 2 as the 85mm 1.2 is out of my price range. should i spend the extra money for the EF 1.4 or go for the new RF f2.0? would like your thoughts on this
thank you for your reviews! been liking your content a lot!
Thank you Matthew! I have a had few others ask for a review of the RF 85 f/2. Unfortunately, I don't own a copy of it, so I will have to find another way to get a copy of it! Looks to be a great lens though! If you want macro and don't like adapters, I would go with the RF f/2. If you like extra blurry backgrounds, go with the EF 1.4. Hope that helps!
Thanks Shane you videos are excelent
I appreciate that!
Should do a comparison with the 85mm f/2 RF and the 85mm Ef 1.8
Much more of relevance: the RF 2.0 Macro
That would be a great comparison! Unfortunately I don't own either of those lenses. Maybe I can get my hands on a friend's version sometime! All the best!
Hi Shane. I know it’s not really your area, but I photograph fast moving dog sports sometimes and do you think the older 85mm f 1.4L on the canon R6 with the eye detection would be the better choice for autofocus speed alone? Or do you think if I have the extra money, the RF lens autofocus would be better or similar? I am trying to save money. I used to use the older 85mm f 1.2 and I know both lenses are an upgrade to that, but I’m curious how the speed compares? Thanks!
Hello Gary! How fun to photograph fast moving dogs! Great question! Hmmm. Though I no longer have the EF 85 1.4, when I did have it the AF speed seemed quite similar, though at times it didn't feel quite at accurate when adapted as the RF 85 1.2 . And that isn't from a technical lab test, that was just my experience. I think with the extra contact points Canon just has these new lenses really focusing fast. But that also could have just been that the RF is a little bit sharper. The RF lenses are really fast focusing, but they also cost more... Not sure if that helps. Kind of also depends on how much you use the lens. Honestly, there are times where I wonder if I should just downgrade and get the RF 85 f/2 because I use the 50mm focal length in my work so much. All the best!
@@ShaneLongPhotography thanks Shane! I don’t make a big living off of the dog sports, though I used to love my old 85mm f 1.2 EF lens. The look was out of this world, despite the terrible autofocus. I don’t think I can justify the cost at this time for the RF 85 1.2. Do you think that extra stop makes a huge background blur difference for the dogs? I guess it depends how clean my background is also. I’ll have to look at your video again to see. Thanks man
I don't think the extra stop would make any difference when photographing the dogs. 1.4 makes plenty of background blur. I would try the EF 85 first and if you are disappointed, return it and save up!
Agree that the rear lens cap is a pain. Canon needs to AT LEAST put a red dot or red paint on the rear cap so it can quickly be aligned and installed.
So true. Great idea on the red dot. Especially during dark wedding receptions, it is hard to see where they line up!
I have the Ef 85 1.2II and I can tell you its not meant for moving subject lol.. I am def upgrading..
Thats for sure! The RF has insanely fast AF!
Hi Canon R6 and lens EF 85mm f1.2 is good picture?
Absolutely!
Im looking to to purchase my first 85mm i have the r 6 and eos r what 85 would you reconmend i shoot weddings mostly
I would start with the RF85 f2!
Thanks for doing this video! I just received my RF 85MM f/2 MACRO IS a couple days ago. I really want the f/1.2L and will probably get that next year if COVID goes away and weddings pick up again.
If I had to make it through a whole wedding with just two prime lenses it would be the 35mm and an 85mm. I have both in the RF MACRO IS versions, and will likely upgrade to the L versions in the future.
Hey Jared! 35/85 is an incredible combo! I used my 35 during the cocktail hour the other night and it was amazing. No doubt that 85 f/2 is a great lens too! Such a value. All the best!
Great Review but, I didn't see much of a comparison with EF 885mm f1.4
Thanks! Most of it the comparison was at the beginning. Did you end up deciding to buy one or the other?
@@ShaneLongPhotography Thanks for your response. Yes, I own Canon 85mm f1.4L
That was great! Can you do a comparison between the autofocus of the EOS R vs R5?
Thanks so much! I am working on that review right now! I want to do a good job on it so it will take me a couple weeks. Thanks for asking!
@@ShaneLongPhotography Wow! Thank you!
I think we already know which wins.... (I owned the R and own the R5 ;))
@@patlezinc Oh, yeah, the r5 wins obviously. But I'm curioys for the comparsion of the af tracking(eye+face+etc.) between the R and R5/R6 since the price is a huge difference. I'm looking to upgrade from my 6D, not sure if I go with the R + a lens or R6 body only
Vinicius Vieira lets wait some direct comparison. On my side, I did not trust R for fast action tracking. With the R5, which is 2 or 3 times faster, I am very confident ;)
Love the rf 85. But I couldn't turn down the chance for f1.4 for a 3rd of the price with the Samyang. Cant afford the 1.2. After updating the Samyang firmware, it works great on my R6.
Watched the Video to drool over 1.2 bokeh
I keep hearing great things about that Samyang! I am sure it is an amazing lens! Have fun!
What's your opinion on the DS version? I might pick up the DS version instead of the standard one.
Sorry for the slow reply! Did you already decide? The DS has smaller bokeh but more smoothed out. It also doesn't let in quite as much light.
Loved this video. Would the r6 do enough justice to the RF 1.2?
Absolutely! My friend has that combo and LOVES it! The incredible accuracy of the AF on the R6 makes shooting at 1.2 possible.
focus cheat code. i am getting this for sure :)
Hahaha! Best comment ever. up up down down... R5
Great comparison. Did you shoot in jpeg format?
I always shoot in RAW :)
Great video.. got me thinking about this RF 85 f1.2 again. Currently I am using R5 with RF 15-35, RF 35 f1.8, RF 50 f1.2 and RF 70-200 f2.8. I shoot mostly indoor gymnastics and portraits. Have been wondering what’s the next lens i should get, the RF 85 f1.2 or the RF24-70?
Hello! You have a great kit going! Tough call on which to get next... With the lenses you already own, you basically have the 24-70 focal length covered, so the 85 might not be a bad choice. Especially if you do portraits!
@@ShaneLongPhotography what do you think about the RF 28-70 f2 lens that everybody is talking about? They say it’s the best lens for weddings because of the f2 Aperture for a Zoom lens and it shoots like a prime so it’s more versatile. Would you consider doing a video for that lens?
Great comparison. I need to start saving.
Save your money! It is really fun!
Is the RF 85 macro a better choice than the EF 85 1.4 or even the EF 85 1.2?
I'm just starting into photography, for now, I can't see myself spending all that money on the new RF 85 1.2...
Thank you.
If you are just starting out, I would get the RF 85 1.8 macro. It will give you great background blur and the bonus of macro. 85mm is great for portraits! That will allow you to build a bigger lens kit. All the best!
So, I dont need to sell my ef 85mm 1.4 and adding $1500 for rf 85mm 1.2. They are almost same lenses but big difference on price.
There is a big difference in price! The EF 85 1. 4 holds up really well so the upgrade won't be for everyone!
Beautiful photos. I love the bokeh. Thank you for showing such a great detailed review. I am getting back into the photography game. I have rented the 5D mark IV and 6D mark II. I have the EF 50 1.4. I’m thinking going eos R and maybe springing for the RF 50. I will do portraits and hopefully get into weddings and quinceñeras.
So good to hear! If you get an R, definitely get the RF50 1.2. It is an incredible lens!!! Have fun!
EF 50 1.4 compared to RF 50 1.2?
There is not just one class between, it is more like a universe in difference.
(owning the 1.4 for roughly 30 years and one hour of shooting time with the RF 1.2)
Do you always shoot in M mode or do you do AF
Almost always AF other than for macro work.
Useful video thanks, I just purchased the R5. I only shoot occasional portraits and can't really justify paying premium on the RF 1.2, how useable would you say the EF 1.4 version is wide open? is it really that soft? I purchased the Samyang RF 85mm 1.4, but it was really dissapointing, so It got sent back. Cheers
The EF 85 1.4 is 100% useful wide open! I highly recommend it. The RF is perfect wide open but the EF is still fantastic. You can view review of that lens here: ua-cam.com/video/wKofvJNDYzs/v-deo.html
your daughter is also so adorable!
Thank you!! I just love her ;)
Photographers on a budget can buy a refurbished EF 85 1.4L for $800.00. My choice was easily made.
Such a great lens! I wish there was an RF version of it!
Still love coming back to your videos even long after buying some of the same equipment!
I’m a happy owner of the RF 85 1.2 the 50 1.2, also the old EF 135 F2, I wondered have you considered trying out the new 135 1.8? For my style of individual portraits I almost like what the 135 f2 does better than the RF 85 1.2, it’s got some chromatic aberrations and not quite as sharp, but perhaps it’s the extra compression and the focal length being more to my liking. I love how good the 135 f2 is for the money so it’s hard to justify splashing out on the new one!
Best wishes from Scotland!
From what I understand here, a 70-200 f/2.8 would be perfect for you. And it doesn't have to be the RF version. Because the EF 70-200 f2.8L IS III version has a higher build quality than the RF and has the same optical quality. But if weight is an issue, then go RF.
@@michelecintramika8482 I actually own the RF version and it’s fantastic! I’ve just become a dad in the past week so no more unnecessary splashing out on top tier lenses for me, but might consider swapping my 85 for 135 if I felt so inclined!
@@WilliamJohnston The 70-200 f2.8 is ideal. If you need more light, just use a bounce flash.
Congrats man!! Sorry for the slow reply. Been too busy around here. I would love to swap out my 135 for the RF 135. Just waiting for the price to drop a lot as I mostly just use that lens for ceremonies and receptions. But yeah I agree with all that you said!
That is a great option too!
thanks. Awesome video!!!!!
You're welcome!
Great video:) do u prefer rf85 or ef85 1.4 is with adapter on rp and r6? Thanks:)
The 1.2 has more background blur and is a little sharper, but sometimes I miss that 85 1.4. Both are amazing lenses!
@@ShaneLongPhotography OK Thanks:)
That RF 85mm is a beast but its price ,, well,, very very too expensive !!
For sure! It isn't cheap ;)
So if you already own the EF 85 1.4 is there justification to upgrade to the RF, considering the outlandish price difference?
Good question! The 85 1.4 is a great lens! If you are happy with it, keep going! For me swapping lenses all day at weddings with some with adapters and some without, it got to be a mess, so I made the switch to virtually all RF glass now. Hope that helps!
@@ShaneLongPhotography Yes thank you
The kid is a natural !
Right?! She is the best.
I had the same issues w/ the dust cap alignment. Minor but annoying issue.
Agreed.
Great video!
Thanks! I really appreciate the kind comment!
That lens alone is a good reason to invest to the Canon RF ecosystem
Canon's 1.2 glass is incredible! Big reason why I love them!
Question
Should I give up any of the below lens for 85mm 1.2?
RF 15-35
RF 24-70
RF 70-200
RF 100-500?
Great question! Really depends on what you are shooting! They all have very different purposes. The 85 is for portraits, headshots, low light situations. I wouldn't say any of those lenses are a direct replacement for the 85. My wedding kit is the 15-35, 35 1.8, 50 1.2, 85 1.2, EF 135. But everyone shoots differently! If I were you, I would first look at adding the RF 50mm 1.2.
@@ShaneLongPhotography how about 28-70 f2 and 85 mm f1.2 combo . Trying to skip the 35 and 50 mm prime lenses
For those that already have the EF 85mm 1.4L IS, do you feel the upgrade is worth it?
No.. I don't think so actually.
I agree. That 85 1.4 is amazing.
I'm wondering if the RF 85mm 1.2 with DS is really worth the extra $400-500.
Great question. For me no. I like that the non DS version has larger bokeh and that it lets in more light. But others will like the more smooth rendering of the bokeh! Total preference.
@@ShaneLongPhotography With a photographer as good as you are, I'd love to see a comparison in real world imagery as you did here. Really wonderful images, and you look great as well in the first images tests for bokeh.
Do'nt really care about the "size" of the bokey, but the RF is so much smoother. The EF looks "busy". 1.2 you are a legit 3d cut out from the background.
It is buttery smooth! Crazy how it just pops the subjects out of the background whenever I use it!
Great videos!
Thank you so much!
Perfeita explicacao , tenho uma canon 85 F1.2 e vou futuramente comprar uma RF 1.2
Thanks! Glad it was helpful! Loved the EF version and the RF version is even better!
Cool video, great photos great lens!
Thanks so much! It is really fun lens!
Great vido presentation. It would have been more interesting to see you demo the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 L USM DS (Defocus Smoothing for optimum Bokeh) and very expensive at $3K. I have the Canon R3 and lens adapters, and I get great results on a Sigma 85mm 1.4 at about 1/3rd the price and the raved ultimate sharp Canon EF 135mm f 2.0. Today, we find software apps that can enhance/simulate great bokeh and clients will not know the difference, in fact, most clients never heard of the term bokeh. Haha
Great suggestion! I don't own the DS version but I bet it would be fun to see how it compares. Bet you love that R3. Someday I would enjoy trying out an R3.